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Let's go to Pete 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: in Michigan. Pete, Welcome to the Car Doctor what's going on. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: You're not the car doctor, you're the car wizard. And 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: I came to you because I'm trying to keep my 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: fleet running. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Cool beans. What's going on? Pete? 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: We've got two animals. The first two thousand and three 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Cadillac Deville notorious problem with the window regulators that fail 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: on that. I've already replaced two. They were pretty straightforward 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: in and out, took great off. This one, the window 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: just just slowly slid into the to the door. Put 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: a new window regulator in. It doesn't work. I put 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: a meter to it. I'm getting voltage at the window 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: regulator and I can even hear the door module click. 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: Do I have a faulty door module? 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, let's let's no codes, right, Yeah, you're not gonna 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's back up a second. You know that switch 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: that the way they work any window motor is they're 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: going to reverse power and ground up or down. So 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: if we if we and go go here understand how 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: the circuit works, Pete, go look at one of the 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: windows that's working right, ye, So you know I believe 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: it's I believe there's an orange wire was the common 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: color back then, orange and whatever the opposite is do 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: we have power on the orange? Do we have ground 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: on the black? And then go look at the motors. 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: The wire is leading up to each individual door motor. 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: You should be able to reverse it. See power and 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: ground this way, then power and ground that way. Then 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: go apply it. Go apply it to that new regulator 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: that's not working. Because prior to this, if I understand 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: what you're saying correctly, the window just the glass fell 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: into the door. It wasn't an electrical problem. It was 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: a mechanical problem with the regulator itself, right right. 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: But normally when the other ones fell into the door, 54 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: I could still like freely move it while it was 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: still bolted to the window. This one I couldn't. I 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: couldn't just slide it on its own. How come that 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: told me like the motor was kind of solid? 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So what you replace just the regulator itself? 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: I replace both? 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Ah, okay, So that means you have a spare motor 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: line around right. 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: I already tested that You're way ahead of me. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and that and that motor works right yep. 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: But it didn't. It didn't move either. So I'm thinking 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: the only thing I've got left is a fuse, and 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be getting a click and voltage at the 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: door if it was a fuse. 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: Right, and you have power? Right, you have power at 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: the door? I do, And I, like I said, I 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: would go look to see do I have Can it 71 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: reverse polarity? When I put the switch up or down? 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Does it follow what the others are doing? And if 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't, then I'm going to start to question that 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: could I also still have And I know, I know 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: you work on enough cars that you know this, Pete, 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna mention it. Could I have a broken 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: wire in the doorjam itself? 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: I thought about that one right now. 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: That's that's what they were famous for. They broke the 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: doorjam wires because you open and close the door three 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: thousand times. 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is a rear door, so well. 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it took longer. It took twenty two years 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: instead of instead of three. You know. So Second question. 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen, Ford Focus Girlference car driving overheating. Common problem 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: with these things. Saw some drops underneath where the thermostat 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: would be, said, makes sense the air conditioning would also 88 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: stop when it was part I believe Ford has a 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: shutdown mechanism for when the car overheats to turn off 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: the a seat. Yep, so I said, okay, got to 91 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: be a thermostat, replace a thermstat Everything went beautifully, but 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: now the electronic band does not turn on, and probably 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: because they tampered with the dust. 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, so what was what was kind of common with these? 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: You've got to get a wiring diagram for this? All right? 96 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: They had problems with the fan control module, and you know, 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: let's let's get out our scan tool. Can we go? 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: Can we go talk to the module? Is it awake? 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Is it online? Can we cycle it on by bi 100 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: directional control? We should be able to in a sixteen 101 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: more than more than old enough technology or new enough technology. 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: All right, the fan assembly should have power. I believe 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: it's a green red a green red trace wire and 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: it comes out of the battery junction boxk fuse thirty 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: three or thirty two, I believe it is. I think 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: it's f thirty two if I remember it right, you know, 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: pull that fuse out because the cooling fan is such 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: a high current draw. I've got I've gotten in the 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: habit the last couple of three, five, ten years of 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: when I have a problem like this, I want to 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: verify the fusees any good, I will I will physically 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: pull the fuse, look at it. 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Does the check the fuse is checked it for continuity 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: and it's good. 115 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Does it have any burn marks? Does it have any 116 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: dimples in it? 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be any scorch to it? 118 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: Okay, so you know I always look for scorch. I 119 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: like that. I'm gonna steal that word. Uh, Pete, I 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: like that word. It's like my gym coach, Coach Sam 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: has a word called janki, uh, you know, and I 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: like that. You know, Janki's a great word. I love 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: that word. He's like, you know, when you're doing this cleaner, 124 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: this deadlift, it feels a little janky. And I think 125 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: about that all the time with cars. So Coach Sam, 126 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: you gotta love him. He's got these great words. 127 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: But anyway, not to be confused with jinky. That's a 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: Scooby Doo reference. 129 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, jinky is a different you know, but yanky janky 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: is a real car term. So you know, let's go see, 131 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: do we have power to the do we have power 132 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: to the cooling fan? And what temperature is the vehicle 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: getting up to? And I know you're gonna tell me 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: it's hot, but I want to look at it on 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: a scan tool. Did it get up to two twenty 136 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: four eight? And then what is fan turn on temperature? 137 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: Right? 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 139 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: So the interesting that you run right into the skin 140 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: tool thing. So I did just buy a little wireless device, 141 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: Bluetooth device that plugs in and allows me to actuate 142 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: different computer controlled and one of them being the fan. 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: So that should be here tomorrow, right. But you know, 144 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: I've got an old snap On mtundred If that dates. 145 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Me the brick, that's all right. I've still got mine, brother, 146 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: so I still have it, yep. 147 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: But I've got a bunch of other little cheap knockoff 148 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: ones and I'm getting to the point where i just 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: need a better scan tool. But I'm not going to 150 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: mortgage the house for one. What would you recommend for 151 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: something like a five hundred dollar range? 152 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, ought tell if you can go 153 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: find a use snap On out on flea bay. That's 154 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: never a bad thing to do, you know. It's it's 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: we know that we know the older snap On stuff 156 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: works it. I will say this for snap On that 157 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: if they've got it in the tool, it generally works 158 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: where some of the others alltel and launch. Yeah, sometimes 159 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: the reverse engineering thing isn't always one hundred percent, but 160 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: you can find a greater volume of information or more 161 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: testing in the less appropriate engineered tool. Can I say 162 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: it like that? Is that a delicate way to put it? 163 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: But you know what, you've also got to embrace the technology. 165 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: Pete not to lecture again on the soapbox. I had 166 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: to go buy a new laptop this morning. I was 167 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: telling Tom this story. We had a family laptop die. 168 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: When did laptops become twelve and thirteen fourteen hundred dollars? 169 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: There's no cheap laptops anymore. And you know, you've just 170 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: got to embrace the technology. And I said, all right, 171 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: you know what, let's just do it because it's it's 172 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: it's the price of living in the twenty first century, 173 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: I guess. And I don't think five hundred bucks for 174 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: a scan tool is the way you can look at it. 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: I think I think you're going to spend a couple 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: of grand But for that couple of grand, you're going 177 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: to get peace of mind knowing you're ready to tackle 178 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: the job and not have to not have to scrounge listen. 179 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: I also, while I was there, I did find a 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars laptop and I purchased that. And all 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: that laptop is going to do is I'm putting together 182 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: my four scan tool, which is the I think it's 183 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: the Russian hacker knockoff of the Ford factory scan tool. 184 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to try that for a while. I want 185 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: to see how that works. 186 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 187 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: You know, I've seen guys using it works really well, 188 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: and I've I've played with one. I want to get 189 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: my own now, So I spent I treated myself. I 190 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: bought myself a dedicated laptop just for that. You know 191 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: what I'm trying, You know what, I'm embracing technology. I'm 192 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: trying to learn new things every day, and at this 193 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: point in my life, I feel like I've learned enough. 194 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: It just don't work. 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: So I used to run an IT department for a 196 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Ford dealership and that's what we used is laptops on 197 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: pretty much everything. 198 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: And it works. So all right, kiddo, go get You're welcome. 199 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: You'll be well you too. Bye bye. I'm running Andy 200 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: in the car doctor eight five five five six zero 201 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Is that the phone number. By golly, 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: it is eight five five five six zero nine nine 203 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: zero zero. I got Tom's head spinning. I'm gonna pull over, 204 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: take a pause, and I'll be back right after this. 205 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: Don't go away. Hey, let's accidentally, what did I do 206 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: now when you're a coffee this morning? Uh? No, actually 207 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: I had a half a couple of coffee. This we 208 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: I have to admit now. They don't really let me 209 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: drink coffee. They say it gets me wired. 210 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's obvious. 211 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: So but look, look at we could probably do a 212 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: four hour show in two hours. You know, that might 213 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: be an idea, and think about that, Maybe we should 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: add an hour. So now if we added an hour 215 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: to the show during daylight savings time, with that extended 216 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: one hour, two hours, are making only an hour. I'll 217 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: leave you to ponder that question. Well, I take the 218 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: next call. It'd make it too long at this rate. 219 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: Let's go to Frank and Illinois. Frank, welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 220 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: how can. 221 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 3: I help you? 222 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 5: Thank you Ron for taking my call. 223 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 224 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 5: Situation here to depies everything that I thought I ever 225 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 5: knew about engine. It says I'm a former nineteen sixties 226 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: hot rodder. Okay, I replaced the twenty ten Highlander that 227 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 5: was broken this lightly with over two hundred and fifty thousand. 228 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: What I got rid of it. It was still flawless, 229 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: but the wife thought maybe I should up. So I 230 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: found a twenty fifteen top of the line used Highlander. 231 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 5: It's just broken in with one hundred and four thousand miles, 232 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: and it had been pretty much always either maintained. Now 233 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: I still do all my fluids and all that stuff. 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: And I just happened to use tins oil platinum and 235 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: have a gold fielder. So when I had forty five 236 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 5: hundred miles, so i'd put on the car. I drained 237 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: the oil, put in put in the fielder. When I 238 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 5: went to dump the catchpan into a five gallon bucket 239 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: that's made for oil, the bottom of that pan was 240 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: covered with all kinds of gold flakes and specs, and 241 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: which time I said, I've got a serious problem here. 242 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 5: But the engine is whispered quiet, not a tick or nothing. 243 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: So I took the oil field, I cut it open, 244 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: pulled all the pleats apart, went through it. Nothing in 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: the filter. So I'm saying, now, this devies everything I 246 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: thought I knew. So it worked out that I had 247 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: another trip I had to make in two days, and 248 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 5: I said, I'm not a gambler, but I'm going to gamble. 249 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: Being so, I didn't find anything in the fielder. I 250 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: listened carefully for the distance, same waves come back, not 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 5: a whimper. Three thousand miles. Dropped the oil this time 252 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: there was just a very few specs, no flakes. I 253 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: cut the fielder open. Nothing in the filter. Now I 254 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: know some of it could have been maybe left in 255 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 5: the oil pan. So I'm totally baffled by what's going on. 256 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: So what's Well, it's two things i'd want to test, 257 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: all right. Number one, if you can get a sample 258 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: of the oil and it's got the flakes in it, 259 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: can we can we microwave that oil. Probably put a 260 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: bit of that oil in a microwave in a paper 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: cup or a glass beaker something, watch for watch for sparks. 262 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Microwaves and metal don't get along, right, So if I'm 263 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: thinking I've got a metal contaminated fluid, I will microwave 264 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: it and look for sparks and arcs. All right, that's 265 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: number one. Number two, can we take a sample of 266 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: that oil and send it out the Blackstone Labs and 267 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: find out what it is. They'll they'll give you a 268 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: great analysis. They'll tell you just exactly what kind of 269 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: material that is, and then okay, and then at least 270 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: you can have a conversation about what's possibly coming. 271 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 5: Apart right on that I the only thing I did do. 272 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: I took a magnet and I couldn't get any of 273 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: the pieces to pick up. But I'll still do the 274 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: microwave and I'll send off the oil there. But this 275 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 5: is the quietest three five engine I've ever been around. 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: And that's what baffles me. 277 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Is this the first two oil changes that you're doing 278 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: to it? 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: Frank, Yeah, the first change had all of flegs. In 280 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: a second one, I had this head hardly anything right. 281 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: So whatever it is is going away. But I before 282 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: it completely disappears, I think i'd want to see just 283 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: you know what is, Blacks, don't tell me that is. 284 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: You know, here's a case. And I'm not a fan. 285 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of oil analysis. I will 286 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: admit that I think a lot of times people overanalyze 287 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: their oil. But here's a case where I'm going to 288 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: tell you it's absolutely needed. So that you know exactly 289 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: what you're dealing with, and you know, depending upon what 290 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: they come back with, they come back and tell us 291 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: it's brass, then we can sit down and think, Okay, 292 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: what's brass inside this engine that might be failing or 293 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: might have been failing, and we can maybe do a 294 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: preliminary tear down, go looking at that. But maybe they're 295 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: going to come back and tell us it's something that 296 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: isn't normally found in the engine. And I'm going to 297 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: tell you perhaps the last oil change, whoever did it, 298 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: ran the oil in through a dirty filter I'm sorry, 299 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: a dirty funnel. You know, I've seen all kinds of 300 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: crazy things. If it's not there now, and it sounds 301 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: like you probably put seven eight thousand miles on this car, yes, 302 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: you would think if it's missing bearing material, I'm going 303 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: to tell you the bad stuff right up front. If 304 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: you would think, if it's missing bearings or something critical 305 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: of a critical nature, or if something was doctored up 306 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: by the selling dealership or the selling party, you would 307 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: think by now it would have failed. 308 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: Right, And being the second chase hardly had anything, no chick, 309 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: and I mean it is whispered quiet. 310 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Right, you know this is where this is where you 311 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: find out the guy you know had a had a 312 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: dirty oil funnel and he was pouring oil in through 313 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: that and it just it wasn't a hard enough material 314 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: to damage anything, but it was just strewn throughout the engine. 315 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: Because whatever it is, it's going away and it's not 316 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: in the filter, which tells me it's not getting picked 317 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: up by the pump, which is maybe why the engine 318 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: has survived. Maybe whatever it is, or the flake's big 319 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: enough that they can't get by the mesh of the pump. 320 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: So was it during an oil change from a dirty funnel? 321 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: Do we have a problem? But not a problem if 322 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: you follow what. 323 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying right right, Well, I'll go ahead send off 324 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: that samp for the blackstone and see what they send 325 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: me back, you know, and maybe we know from then 326 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 5: maybe what's going on, or maybe I don't have a. 327 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: Problem, maybe you don't have a problem, you know. In 328 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: any event, would you call me either way and let 329 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: us know, because I'm sure everybody is kind of curious. 330 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll get some emails and phone calls about this, 331 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: because it's always a good story when something like this happens. 332 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: There's always a reason remember that, Frank, at the end 333 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: of the day, there's always a reason why it happens, 334 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: or you know, there's always a reason why that material 335 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: is there. And we'll we'll we'll see what Blackstone says 336 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: and then work it out and solve the problem. All right, kiddo. 337 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll call you back and let you know. 338 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: You let us know you'd be well. Thank you, sir, 339 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: So take care, yes, sir, you too. Kind of makes 340 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: you wonder. You know that that two hundred fifty twenty 341 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: ten Highlander it's not a lot of miles anymore, right, 342 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: you know, quarter million miles. I remember in a quarter 343 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: million miles was a benchmark. Now it's maybe we're halfway through. 344 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: I think of that and say, and I also think, 345 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: are the Are the older engines better than the newer ones? 346 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: It sure seems like a lot of things have engine problems. 347 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Frank does, but you start to 348 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: look at the mileage some of the cars in the 349 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: late nineties, two thousands and the twenty tens went before 350 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: they experienced failures, and you say that, you know, we 351 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: really did make a better product at that point, and 352 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: technology caught up to us. We sort of figured out 353 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: how not to make it better, if you know what 354 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So anyway, eight five five five six zero 355 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Hey, have I mentioned a YouTube 356 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: channel yet today? I have not. When I come back, 357 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit about the Car Doctor YouTube channel, 358 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: as well as continuing with your phone calls. I'm ronnin 359 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: Andy and the Car Doctor. I'll return right after this 360 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: and let's go to Fred and Massachusetts sixteen Cadillac Fred. 361 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir? How can I help? 362 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call? 363 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: Right, You're welcome. What's going on? 364 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 6: I'm calling about my sister's car here? Twenty sixteen Cadillaca SR. 365 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 6: Tranny cooler went inside the radiator, examinated everything. Okay, So 366 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 6: I just wanted to put that out there so if 367 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 6: anybody had one, they might want to change the radiator. 368 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, beforehand, right right before that. Yeah, exactly How big 369 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: of a mess did it make? Well? 370 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: The dealer told her thirty eight hundred to flush everything 371 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: and no guarantee, so she doesn't know what she's going 372 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 6: to do yet. 373 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: How how long did she drive the car? Fred? 374 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 6: She had her for a few years. 375 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, I mean, let me back up? 376 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: Did how did how did she? When did she realize 377 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: the trans cooler was cross leaking into the radiator? 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 6: I think when everything went bad, you know, all lights 379 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: started going, didn't drive anymore. 380 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: Right, So let me ask this question because I'm going 381 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: to get on my soapbox for a second that I'm 382 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: not beating you up. I really appreciate what you're trying 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: to do. Who was changing the oil all this time? 384 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, she got a private guy doing it and not 385 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 6: the dealers. 386 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: Right, Well, but you know whoever's doing it, and I'm 387 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: not listen. There's good in dealerships, there's bad in dealerships. 388 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: There's good in independence, there's bad in independence. But in 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: my mind, you know, unless this was a complete collapse 390 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: one two three overnight, if this, if this took a 391 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: while to come on, somebody should have seen fluid contamination 392 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: in the coolant bottle when they were doing oil changes 393 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: and mentioned that, gee, where's this black oily residue or 394 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: where's this where's this oily residue coming from in the 395 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: coolant bottle, just as an argument and a case for 396 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: doing a proper oil change. You know, we talk about 397 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: oil changes a lot here. I'm sure you're aware, and 398 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: everybody wants quick and cheap, but quick and cheap doesn't work. 399 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: And here we are four thousand dollars in the hole 400 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: that could have been avoidable, and yeah. 401 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: No guarantee. 402 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 6: What's going to happen after that? 403 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: Right? So I think, you know, I would try to 404 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: look at And this is why I say, you know, 405 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: we have this conversation at the show three or four 406 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: or half a dozen times a week, but how much 407 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: is an oil change? And why an oil change was 408 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: never meant to be fast? An oil change was never 409 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: meant to be quick. An oil change was meant to 410 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: be effective and efficient. And that's that's really what it's 411 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: all about. There is one bulletin you know that talks 412 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: about trans flushing for Cadillac. I don't know if it, 413 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. If you're going to have 414 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: a leg to stand on. You may just want to 415 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: go read bulletin. You got a pencil handy, Yeah, you 416 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: might want to go read bulletin seventeen dash NA like 417 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: North America dash O six six day of July of 418 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: twenty three, and they talk about GM products in general, 419 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: and they talk about you know, transmission oil cooler flush 420 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: and flow testing because GM has had more than their 421 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: share of trans cooler flow and you know bypass vowel 422 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: failures and things like that. You know, did she buy 423 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: the car new from the Cadillac dealer? 424 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: No, she bought a use. 425 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, maybe there's an argument here about you know, 426 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: what can you do for me if it if it works, 427 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, you know what I put four 428 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: grand into that? I don't know. I'll tell you what 429 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: I also might do is find an alternative, get out 430 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: and go. Look at bgfind ashop dot com website bgfind 431 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: ashop dot com. You can enter in your zip code 432 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: and perhaps find a shop out there that uses the 433 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: BG fluid Exchange program, and you might be able to 434 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: find the cheaper than the thirty eight hundred dollars. Thirty 435 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars seems like an excessive amount of money. 436 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'd gamble a thousand, I'd gamble fifteen hundred 437 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: bucks on a guess, and I'm not so. I'm not 438 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: so worried about the cooling system as I am more 439 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: about the transmission. 440 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 6: You know what that training costs rebuilt five grand? 441 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: Probably on a good day. I bet you that as 442 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: a guest, I bet in New Jersey dollars that trans 443 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: is every bit of six to eight grand. 444 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: Wow. 445 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it makes the argument for fluids and 446 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: service again proper right, you know that that I want 447 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars oil change. Yeah, I don't. I want 448 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: to spend the two hundred bucks and I want to 449 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: get it done right, I want to spend the three 450 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: hundred bucks. I would much rather appreciate that that. You know, 451 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: it's it's going to take its time and look things 452 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: over it and having that one guy doing it. And 453 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm not blaming the guy that did it. Hey, listen, 454 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: she could have parked the car Monday and Tuesday woke 455 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: up in the cooler split. It happens, right, you know 456 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: it's it's eight years old, it's nine years old. It's 457 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: probably got some miles on it, but yeah. 458 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 6: It's only got fifty nine thousand on it. 459 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: I think that's a shame. That's really a shame. Brother. 460 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: But I could, I could. I could stand here and 461 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: tell you this story all day long. It's it's I 462 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: think it really comes down to the oil change. There's 463 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: a reason, and I'm gonna I'm gonna jinx myself, so 464 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: I won't say it too much. I think there's a reason, 465 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: my little shop Ranger that you guys always hear me 466 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: talk about. It's a ninety seven. When was ninety seven? Fred? 467 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: That was a while ago, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, two 468 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven thousand, three hundred and two miles. Now, wow, 469 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: there's a there's a reason. And that truck, that truck 470 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: gets it's the least amount of love, all right, That 471 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: that truck doesn't get really a whole lot of love. 472 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: But we sort of beat the snot out of it, 473 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to put it, because 474 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: it's it's always outside, it's always jump in it, drive 475 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: it cold, get it to where we gotta go. You know, 476 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: we're running around in town and sometimes it doesn't warm 477 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: up for a week, and we're driving all short local trips, 478 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: and yet that thing's still going because if it's wet, 479 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: if it's a fluid, it gets changed on a regular basis, 480 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: and here we are. You know, It's it's just it 481 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: is what it is. So but take a look at 482 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: those things. Yeah, go ahead, real quick. 483 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: To nineteen eighty six Chevy pick up k keen. I'm 484 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 6: wondering about tune up parts and leaf springs. 485 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: For the rear. 486 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: Leaf springs have become a specialty item. I gotta tell you, 487 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: they really have. If we were in New Jersey, there's 488 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: two places like it's Senji and Patterson, New Jersey, Jensen 489 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: Mitchell and Standard Spring. Actually three and one in Hackensack 490 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: Hackensack Spring. Those are the only three places I know 491 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: of that still do spring work. 492 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: What about Dorman. 493 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: Dorman might have a replacement leave spring. Now that you 494 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: say that, yes, you're correct, and as a as a 495 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: matter of fact, I'll go back to my ranger, my 496 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: little shop truck. You know, I'm glad you said that. Fred. 497 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: I completely forgot about this, but I actually put Dorman 498 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: leaf springs in the back of my ranger a couple 499 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: of years back. Yeah, yeah, they work fine. Listen, we 500 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: still we used the whole scrap to the yard and 501 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, it holds up well, and the truck still 502 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 2: rides well and it does its thing. So yeah, take 503 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: a look at dor didn't. 504 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: Of business though, didn't they sell something well? 505 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: Delco From my understanding, and we're going back to two 506 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, as I recall, 507 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: Delco no longer manufactures anything in the United States. Everything 508 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: is either imported or brought in or they're purchased from 509 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: another company and then relabeled and stamped under the Delco brand. 510 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: And you know, unfortunately, some you know, buying group got 511 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: involved and they took a great product. And I'm not 512 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: saying it's not a great pro anymore, but it's not. 513 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: It's not dating electronic electrical laboratories anymore. Which is what? 514 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: Which is what Delco originally started out in the twenties 515 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: and the thirties, So from the company that brought us 516 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: the electric starter in Cadillacs by the way, way back 517 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: when you know, it's it's now a shell of what 518 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: it used to be. 519 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 6: So so what do you think I should get for 520 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 6: tune up parts? 521 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: Delco? 522 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 2: Still, Yeah, I would still get Delco. It's still going 523 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: to be a good, decent brand. I would look it 524 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: over very carefully, you know, because I think I think 525 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: you're going to find the best there. As a matter 526 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: of fact, no, I'm going to retract that statement. You 527 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: know where I would go. You're catching me here, Fred, 528 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: I got to think about these things. I would go 529 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: look at standard. This is for the this. This is 530 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: for the eighty six, right yeah, right, right, yeah, this 531 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: is for the eighty six. I bet your Standard, and 532 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I know for sure Standard still makes 533 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: tune up parts for that eighty six Chevy Ce ten 534 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: K ten whatever it is, I would have no problem. 535 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: And I would also try and purchase, if I can, 536 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: their Blue Streak Line, which is there, you know, heavier plastic. 537 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: They up the quality. Not that there's anything wrong with 538 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: the entry level stuff, but their Blue Streak Line is 539 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: a heavier duty version of their every Day and it 540 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: will last longer. And I would buy two of everything 541 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: if you're planning to hang on to the vehicle and 542 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: drive it another hundred thousand miles. All right, K get up? 543 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you very much. 544 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Fred, you'd be well. I'm you too. 545 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor. I'll be back 546 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: right after this. Let's keep it going. Let's go to 547 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: Catherine in Connecticut. One SUPERU outback. Catherine, Welcome to the 548 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: car doctor. How can I help? 549 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: Hi? Hi? I'm not sure you can because three other 550 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 4: garages were able to help, and I spent a lot 551 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: of money, okay, and I really need this car. And 552 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: there are no options at this point, but either way, 553 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: I got a red check. 554 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: Engine light, orange check engine light. 555 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it started flashing and I'm like, oh my gosh. 556 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: So so I took it to my first garage. I 557 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: don't know. They said to replace spark plugs in a 558 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: nission coils. I don't know, po three oh one, PO 559 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 4: three oh three and PO three oh five. Does that 560 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 4: make any sense to you? 561 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: Is this the six cylinder sub or the four six cylinder? Okay? 562 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: So it had it had it had a one four 563 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: and five. 564 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: O three and O five basically the right side. 565 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: Of the engine, right, okay. 566 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: And so they replaced the spark plugs and it didn't 567 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: do anything. And so I took it to my regular guy. 568 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: He said he's not going to touch it with a 569 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: ten foot pole. They were both saying that I had 570 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: to replace the engine and I'm like yeah. So he 571 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: told me to take it to Subaru, who he used 572 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: to work for, and I was just kind of like, 573 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 4: I don't feel good about this, and they were not 574 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: able to find out what was wrong with it, recommended 575 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: removing spark plugs. I'm reading the thing right now and 576 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 4: inspecting coils and looking at the graph while the vehicle 577 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: was running, noticed af correction. I don't know what that 578 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: means anyway. They replaced intake gaskets, checked the fuel line, 579 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: an O ring somewhere, a hose assembly. They actually had 580 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: the car for a month and said they could not 581 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: figure it out. 582 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: So right now, it's got misfires on one side of 583 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: the engine. 584 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: Correct. And here's the thing. The red light stays on steady. 585 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: The orange light, yeah right. 586 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: Red in my mind, and when I stay too long 587 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: at a stoplight, it will begin to glimmer and start 588 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: to flash. 589 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so here, let's do this. Let's talk about let's 590 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: talk about testing in the two minutes I've got left. Sure, 591 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: all right, So first of all, we've got to find 592 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: somebody that wants to work on this, all right. Most 593 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: of the guys will shy away from the from the 594 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: pancake sixes just for some reason. Nobody likes to work 595 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: on the six cylinder suber. I haven't figured that out. 596 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: There are some oddities to it, but I'm just letting 597 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: you know what the hesitation is. I don't know that 598 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: changing the engine will solve this, all right. I'm not 599 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: convinced that it has an engine problem yet? All right? 600 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: So you know, I don't care if it's a one cylinder, 601 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: two cylinder, twelve cylinder, or a nineteen cylinder, whatever it is. 602 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: If the left side is running good and the right 603 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: side is running bad, at least the left side of 604 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: the motor can give me some good numbers and the 605 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: right side of the motor can give me the bad number. 606 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: Right, I was thinking, sensors. 607 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: Well, I want to know. I want to know basics, 608 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: all right. I want to know what mechanical compression is 609 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: the does the bad side of the engine we'll call 610 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: the misfiring side, the bad side? Does it pass basic 611 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: mechanical compression and a cylinder leaked down test? 612 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 6: All right? 613 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: Could it be that I've got a jumped timing device 614 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: on the one side of the engine versus the other? 615 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: Think bicycle sprockets, right, Catherine, all right, big sprocket, little sprocket. 616 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: If those sprockets, If we brought those sprockets around to top, 617 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: as the expression goes, and we made a white dot, 618 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: and we rotated again, and things were in cycle, both 619 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: white dots would come to the top at the right moment. Right, 620 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: You can visualize that yes, if the chain was loose, 621 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: If my bicycle chain was loose, and the big Sprocket 622 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: jumped ahead of tooth right now, the rear sprocket comes 623 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: up top correct, but the big Sprocket doesn't. It's off 624 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: by a tooth or two. Its position is incorrect. That 625 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: will make an engine misfire. All right, and in all 626 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: possibility you could have that. But I'm assuming, which is 627 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: a dangerous word, that they've tested that. So I want 628 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 2: to know. Is mechanical timing mechanical timing correct? Is mechanical 629 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: compression good? If I've got good mechanical compression and good 630 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: mechanical timing, why am I changing the engine number one right? Next? Okay? 631 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: It is? 632 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: What with what the dealer's talking about, With the A, 633 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: A F or A FR sensor being correct, I'll tell 634 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: you what. Sit tight, Let me pull over, take a 635 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: pause because I don't want to rush this. Let me 636 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: give you. Let me give you another segment. I'm running 637 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: ding in the card arctor. We'll be right back with 638 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: Catherine right after this. Don't go anywhere, Catherine, you're still there, Catherine, Yes, yes, 639 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: pencil and paper in hand. Okay, so you ever walk 640 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: into an office building with one of those circular doors. 641 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: They're revolving doors. Sure you ever notice how some of 642 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: those doors are easy to push and some of them 643 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: are real hard? 644 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 4: Yes? I do? 645 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're an engine, right, You walk into Office A, 646 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: and that door is as you expect it, a little 647 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: bit of resistance and you have to push at a 648 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: certain level. Correct. You walk into Office B, and that 649 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: door spins easy as pie. It spins so easy you 650 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: almost fall over yourself trying to push the door and 651 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: stay upright. All right. That's probably the best example I 652 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: could give you of an engine that has good compression 653 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: on one side and bad compression on the other. It's 654 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: a matter of resistance, all right, Keep that in mind. 655 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: So the first thing I want to do is baseline 656 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: this engine. Are both doors equally as difficult to move? 657 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Do they have the same amount of resistance? I want 658 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: a mechanical compression test done, all right? I want a 659 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: cylinder leak down test on a cylinder. Leak down test 660 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: is a test process where we put air into the 661 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: cylinder in a closed cylinder. If I put one hundred 662 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: pounds in, how much air should come out? Nothing? Right? 663 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: A closed cylinder A closed door is a closed door, 664 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: right all Right. In mechanical terms, we accept up to 665 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: ten percent leakage. Anything more than ten percent, I've got 666 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: a mechanical problem on that cylinder. That's it. It's an 667 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: irrefutable fact, right, So the last thing I want them 668 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: to go through is consider possible air fuel ratio sensor problems. 669 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: Maybe we've got an imbalance, and we can figure that 670 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: out by looking at fuel trims. But let's baseline this, 671 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: and let's make sure this twenty five year old car 672 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: really is worth fixing. That's the last thing I want 673 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: to mention. I'm running any in the car doctor whose 674 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.