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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we hope

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Speaker 1: everyone who made it to the Unrivaled Open Bar after

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Speaker 1: party last night in Miami alternated shots with water. If not,

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Speaker 1: does whispering help with that headache. It's Thursday, March fifth,

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Speaker 1: and on today's show, Big Citrus is previewing the Paralympics.

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Speaker 1: I'll share a little history, tell you about this year's event,

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Speaker 1: and offer a few Fato Figo on the new bombshell

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Speaker 1: that's entered the mascot villa, plus some headshots for very

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Speaker 1: good boys. Then head of Rules here at Good Game.

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Speaker 1: That's producer Alex will break down the technical aspects of

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Speaker 1: the Paralympics, and producer Bianco will introduce you to a

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Speaker 1: few of the people at the center of it, all

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Speaker 1: the athletes plus the girls might be fighting. Justice is restored,

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Speaker 1: and Big Citrus checks in on our twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: Intentions not Resolutions. It's all coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Max Slaces. Here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Unrivaled and that Unrivaled championship game, which

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Speaker 1: is actually taking place after we record this, so we'll

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Speaker 1: have all the highlights, lowlights and hopefully some after party

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Speaker 1: t to share with you tomorrow to the WNBA. With

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Speaker 1: CBA negotiations going on seventeen months now, things took a

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Speaker 1: turn on Tuesday when news broke that the Player's Association

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Speaker 1: is facing some internal conflict. As first reported by ESPN,

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Speaker 1: WNBPA executive committee members Kelsey Plumb and Brianna Stewart wrote

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Speaker 1: a three page letter to Players Union Executive Director Terry

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Speaker 1: Jackson on Monday, expressing quote serious concerns about how the

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Speaker 1: PA is handling the current negotiations, including the lack of

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Speaker 1: adequate player involvement in the process end quote. Plum, the

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Speaker 1: end quote. Now this is the first real public sign

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Speaker 1: So the WNBPA Executive Committee tried to clear things up

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Speaker 1: with a statement on Wednesday saying, December's nearly unanimous vote

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Speaker 1: quote that decision and the results of our recent player

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Speaker 1: survey reaffirmed that the current league proposal is not worth taking.

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Speaker 1: End quote. Now that survey refers to a question post

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Speaker 1: Or asked the union to keep negotiating? End quote. According

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Speaker 1: want to keep negotiating. The aforementioned statement continues on saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: twenty six. There is no WNBA without the players. End quote.

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Speaker 1: The statement, which we'll link to in the show notes,

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Speaker 1: the season's schedule being affected. The twenty twenty six regular season,

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Speaker 1: More WNBA, Nike and Asia Wilson unveiled the Star's second

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Speaker 1: signature basketball shoe on Tuesday. It's called a Apostrophe two,

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Speaker 1: Vegas Aces Center's newest footwear is pink, with her signature

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Speaker 1: at Nike dot Com and select retailers. To college hoops,

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Speaker 1: hoops news UCLA hoopers Bets, Charlie's Ledger Walker and Gabriella

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Speaker 1: US Half Marathon Championships we told you about on Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's time for our long awaited Paralympics preview that we

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start with the little Paralympics history and

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Speaker 3: Get in here to discuss the tough stuff that's too technical.

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Speaker 3: Let's start and I'm in a group three sports together.

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Speaker 1: that knees are helpful. That's where we planned it on

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Speaker 1: these Olympics in paraly Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these are very helpful, and yet you know, Brenda's

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Speaker 3: out here doing it without one, so pretty wild.

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Speaker 4: Four years ago.

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Speaker 3: She actually had to have a legal fight in order

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Speaker 3: to be able to compete though, because she wanted to

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Speaker 3: essentially get classed up to compete with the LL two's,

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Speaker 3: who are athletes who are supposed to be more able

435
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Speaker 3: than she is, and they didn't let her until the

436
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Speaker 3: last minute when she had this legal fight, and she

437
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Speaker 3: went on to win two medals, one golden one bronze.

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Speaker 3: And so it's one of those things that we seed

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Speaker 3: a lot in Paralympic sport, where there are so many

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Speaker 3: fewer women that are competing in many of these sports.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we're going to get into that way more

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Speaker 3: as the games continue, But the gender disparity at the

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Speaker 3: Winter Paralympics in particular is worse than anywhere else in sports,

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Speaker 3: to be totally honest, And sometimes it's as simple as

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Speaker 3: having more events, but sometimes it's a little bit more

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Speaker 3: complicated where there just aren't as many women that are

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Speaker 3: getting to the point of being on the start line

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Speaker 3: to be able to make a large enough class to

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Speaker 3: merit having a medal, because you don't want to just

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Speaker 3: award a medal if there are only three people in

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Speaker 3: the class, because it doesn't mean as much. But at

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Speaker 3: the same time, you need to make sure that there

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Speaker 3: are pathways for athletes to be able to get to

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Speaker 3: the games and compete. Let's move on to wheelchair curling,

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Speaker 3: where the biggest difference that you will see versus at

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Speaker 3: the Olympics is that there is no sweeping. And while

457
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Speaker 3: we didn't talk so much about the impact of sweeping

458
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Speaker 3: at the Olympics, it can be huge depending on.

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Speaker 4: How that rock is thrown.

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Speaker 3: If you're sweeping, you can get it travel twelve feet further,

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Speaker 3: and so in wheelchair curling, it really all comes down

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Speaker 3: to having excellent throwing abilities because there's no other way

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Speaker 3: to compensate once that stone passes the hogline. Also, beyond

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Speaker 3: the look out, in order to make sure that they

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Speaker 3: have a steady way to start throwing their stone, you'll

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Speaker 3: see a lot of athletes will have somebody else hold

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Speaker 3: their chair, which I was thinking about all the Olympic

468
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Speaker 3: curling controversy and the double touching, and I'm like, are

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Speaker 3: there any rules around touching your teammate's chair double touching?

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Speaker 4: So we'll have to keep our eyes on that.

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Speaker 3: And then finally sled hockey, and I have a lot

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Speaker 3: I could say about this sport, but while it is

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Speaker 3: technically a co ed sport, there are still extremely few

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Speaker 3: women that are competing at the Paralympics, and that is

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Speaker 3: an important qualifier that they are not yet competing at

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Speaker 3: the Paralympics, but they are competing away from the Games.

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Speaker 3: There's actually a rule where basically a roster can only

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Speaker 3: have seventeen players if the roster just has men, but

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Speaker 3: you can add an eighteenth player for free if that

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Speaker 3: player is a woman. And yet the US and Canada

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Speaker 3: have never taken advantage of that at the Paralympics, and

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Speaker 3: so in the history of the Paralympics there have only

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Speaker 3: been three women who have ever competed in this so

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Speaker 3: called mixed gender tournament. Two are going to compete in though,

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Speaker 3: one for Japan and one for Slovakia, which is great

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Speaker 3: to see. That being said, it is time to have

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Speaker 3: a women's tournament at the Paralympics, and it is one

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Speaker 3: of the issues that we have seen time and time

489
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Speaker 3: again that if you build it, they will come, but

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Speaker 3: if you don't build it, they won't put together teams.

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Speaker 3: And so it's the cyclical issue where basically the US

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Speaker 3: and Canada have teams, but the rest of the world

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Speaker 3: is still catching up. Sarah, we had a great interview

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Speaker 3: with the head of IPC Para Hockey who talked about

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Speaker 3: the first Women's World Championship that they had last year

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Speaker 3: and so the hopes of it being on the Paralympics

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Speaker 3: schedule just hopefully in four years, but it's sad to

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Speaker 3: watch it and not.

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Speaker 4: See the women there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, if you're interested in learning

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Speaker 1: more about this. Michelle Laflam was on the show last August.

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Speaker 1: You can find that episode that was called Sled, Sledge

503
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Speaker 1: or Para Hockey with Michelle Laflam and talked about the

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Speaker 1: inaugural Women's World Championship and all the work that she

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Speaker 1: and others put into making that happen. Also why the

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Speaker 1: open gender label hasn't really helped develop that many more

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Speaker 1: women's players, and some of the challenges that have kind

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Speaker 1: of kept it from being a part of the Paralympic

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Speaker 1: but hopefully that introduction of the first World Championship for

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Speaker 1: the women will help move this along. But yeah, for now,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of wild. It's like you could, but you don't.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, And I'll also link in the show notes

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Speaker 3: to a story I wrote back in twenty twenty two

514
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Speaker 3: about the history of women's para hockey. I think probably

515
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Speaker 3: one of my favorite stories that I've ever written, and

516
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Speaker 3: talking to athletes about kind of this like Carot and

517
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Speaker 3: stick of like trying to aspire to do something that

518
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Speaker 3: you're not sure if it's going to exist.

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Speaker 4: It reminded me a lot of other.

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Speaker 3: Fights that we've seen women have to fight, where it's

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Speaker 3: like you want it for yourself, but by the time

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Speaker 3: you get it accomplished, you're not actually the one benefiting

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 1: And also Nordic combined, it's like, yeah, you're fighting for

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Speaker 1: something that might not exist, and also like if it existed,

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Speaker 1: more people would fight for it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, But slat hockey a fantastic sport to watch,

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Speaker 3: so definitely give it a watch.

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Speaker 4: Make sure to tune in for Japan and Slovakia.

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Speaker 1: We still do want a three for three USA and

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Speaker 1: some more free birds if we can get it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that is not everything you need to know

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Speaker 3: about the Paralympic sports, but is hopefully enough to get

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Speaker 3: you started watching them.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to tell you who to watch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so we're gonna start with the goat of

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Speaker 5: the Paralympics, if they will, Oksana Masters, who competes in

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Speaker 5: para biathlon and paracross country skiing. She has been around

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Speaker 5: the block and she's one of those athletes where you

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Speaker 5: just kind of got to run through the numbers. This

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Speaker 5: will be her seventh Paralympics. And as Alex mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 5: many Paralympians do compete in summer and winter sports. But

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Speaker 5: even among that lot, seventh Paralympics is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Along the way, Oaksanna has earned nineteen Paralympic medals. Fourteen

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Speaker 5: of those are from the Winter Games, making her team

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Speaker 5: USA's most decorated Winter Paralympian. And I know, Sarah and Alex,

548
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Speaker 5: you saw at the Olympics a lot of athletes the

549
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Speaker 5: medal was falling off the ribbon and there is all

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Speaker 5: this controversy. Well, Oksana is ahead of the game because

551
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Speaker 5: she keeps all of her medals in socks to keep

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Speaker 5: them safe. That's one hell of a sock drawer. I

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Speaker 5: got to say, yeah, And I've spoken with Oksana a

554
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Speaker 5: few times. I know she's a friend of the show, Alex.

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Speaker 5: You spoke with her in an episode that aired in December.

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Speaker 5: She is a real delight of a human and a

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Speaker 5: real open book. So if you haven't heard Oksana speak

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Speaker 5: and share her story and share how she approaches competition,

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Speaker 5: I really suggest that people go back and listen.

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Speaker 1: To that episode.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. Next up is Danny Eravich.

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Speaker 5: She actually made her Paralympic debut at the Summer Paralympics

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, running the four hundred on the track.

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Speaker 5: Six months later, she was back at the Games in

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Speaker 5: her Winter Paralympics debut, and is now back again at

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Speaker 5: the Winter Games competing in biathlon. Her nickname is the

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Speaker 5: Biathlon Bandit, which refers to obviously what she competes in,

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Speaker 5: but also her Western US roots. You'll often see her

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Speaker 5: wearing cowboy boots. She has a Cowboy Boots sponsor. She

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Speaker 5: wears cowboy hats. She's really got the merch game on lock.

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Speaker 5: I will say that including she has stickers going into

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Speaker 5: this Paralympics that say pizza pasta parasports.

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Speaker 1: Which oh so good. I think we need that.

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Speaker 3: I hope they're also making pins that say that for

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Speaker 3: the games, I wish we could trade pins.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Fato Figo. Danny Erovitch's pins at these upcoming Paralympics

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Speaker 1: are made by front of the show Sophia Kirkby. So

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Speaker 1: she's one of the athletes that Sofia made those homemade

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Speaker 1: pins for as well. So if you're around the Paralympics,

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Speaker 1: try to get a trade with Danny. And also, we

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Speaker 1: mentioned Danny on the show a few months ago because

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Speaker 1: not only does she have a hilarious Instagram name, the

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Speaker 1: one arm Dan, but she also was serving as a

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Speaker 1: bartender on Bravo's Watch What Happens Lot, and so we

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Speaker 1: pointed y'all to some clips of her doing that. She's

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Speaker 1: got a great sense of humor and just a great personality,

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Speaker 1: So highly recommend following her for aforementioned cowboy hats, pins

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Speaker 1: and march.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you want the crossover of sports and Bravo,

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Speaker 5: Danny Aravitch has got you covered. She's a big Bravo

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Speaker 5: fan and she also was in the media space herself.

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Speaker 5: She recently co founded a company called Cultured. She did

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Speaker 5: this with a few athletes to help change the world's view.

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Speaker 1: Of para sports.

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Speaker 5: You know, their site says, quote, our journey is not

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Speaker 5: just about sports. It's a movement to educate and challenge

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Speaker 5: societal perceptions around disabilities.

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Speaker 1: End quote.

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Speaker 5: We're going to put a link to her Instagram in

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Speaker 5: the show notes so you can check it out. There

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Speaker 5: are a ton of awesome para athletes featured there, and

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Speaker 5: one of the athletes that Aravich co founded that company

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Speaker 5: with is Brenna Huckabee, which is the next athlete that

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Speaker 5: you should watch in Milan Courtina. Brenna competes in para

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Speaker 5: snowboarding and she's the most decorated para snowboarder in the world.

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Speaker 5: She's the reigning champion in the bank slalom event. She

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Speaker 5: also won bronze in snowboard crass in Beijing. And Brenna

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Speaker 5: is a really good follow on social She's already started

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Speaker 5: posting on TikTok about being gluten free in Italy and

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Speaker 5: how that's going spoiler alerts not going well. She took

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Speaker 5: a bite of pizza at the Paralympic village and said,

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Speaker 5: so far so sad. Perhaps me think I might go hungry.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Fato Figo, Northern Italy uses a different kind of

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Speaker 1: flower that many gluten free people do not find disrupts

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Speaker 1: their digestive system. So I actually have a gluten free

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Speaker 1: friend here in Chicago, and she has identified multiple Northern

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Speaker 1: Italian restaurants that actually import the specific kind of flower

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Speaker 1: that they use, and she is able to go there

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Speaker 1: and happily eat the pizza and pasta without any digestive issue.

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Speaker 1: So my hope for these Paralympians and anyone else out

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Speaker 1: there that's gluten free gets to potentially figure out what

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Speaker 1: kind of flower and if they're using traditional Northern Italian ingredients,

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Speaker 1: and then they might be free to just go ham.

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Speaker 5: Okay, fingers crossed. I hope that is in Brenna's future.

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Speaker 5: Two more athletes to know about. Kendall Gretch is a

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Speaker 5: four time Paralympian and seven time Paralympic medallist. She also

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Speaker 5: competes in para biathlon and para cross country skiing. She's

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Speaker 5: been on a total tear these past few years, including

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Speaker 5: completing a hat trick of gold medals at last year's

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Speaker 5: Para Biathlon World Championships, she won the twelve point five

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Speaker 5: kilometer individual sitting event, the seven point five kilometer sprint event,

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Speaker 5: and the sprint pursuit. And now in Italy she's going

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Speaker 5: to look to defend her pair biathlon title in the

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Speaker 5: middle distance sitting race. So you're going to hear a

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Speaker 5: lot about her over the next couple of weeks. And last,

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Speaker 5: but certainly not least, para altpeed skier Lori Stevens, who

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Speaker 5: is competing in her sixth Winter Paralympics Italy, has special

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Speaker 5: memories for her. This is where she burst onto the

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Speaker 5: Paralympic scene with her debut back in two thousand and

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Speaker 5: six at the Torino Games, winning gold in the downhill

642
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Speaker 5: and super g during those Games. Since then, she's won

643
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Speaker 5: two gold, two silvers, and three bronze medals, plus thirteen

644
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: medals at World Championships. She has not said if this

645
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 5: is the final games for her, but she certainly has

646
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 5: a hell of a career behind her and I'm excited

647
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: to see what she gonna make of these games. So

648
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Speaker 5: that's five of the twenty Tmusa women to watch in Italy.

649
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Speaker 1: I love that. I'm excited. I'm excited to watch those ladies.

650
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Speaker 3: And as you all watch the Paralympics, I'm gonna get

651
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: on my soapbox for one minute to share my thoughts

652
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: on a topic that I care a lot about and

653
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: I think a lot of para athletes care a lot about.

654
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Speaker 3: Which is the word inspirational and how it can often

655
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: be thrown around as soon as the Paralympics come on TV.

656
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: I think it is a habit of some people, and

657
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Speaker 3: especially lots of media outlets, to just look at a

658
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: Paralympian and say, hey, you're inspirational. And my challenge to

659
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: everyone out there, whether you're watching or covering, is to

660
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: make sure that your use of that word has meaning

661
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: behind it, because inspiration is an incredibly powerful thing, and

662
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: so the rule I always use is to use.

663
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Speaker 4: Inspiration as a verb.

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Speaker 3: So watching Kendall gretch inspired me to try out cross

665
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: country skiing myself is a great way to use it

666
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: because it is showing action behind the thought Instead. What

667
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: we often see at the Paralympics is people using it

668
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: in place of other words that are more accurate. What

669
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Speaker 3: an incredible athletic achievement, what incredible grit determination will power

670
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: ability to fight through pain. And so that's that's my

671
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: little message to all of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a double ledged sword. It can

673
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: empower athletes and it can also reinforce limiting stereotypes about

674
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: what we expect from these athletes, right Like, you can

675
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: both find somebody's story and their desire to find greatness

676
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: at the Paralympics inspiring and to your point, inspire you

677
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: to take on challenges you previously thought were impossible. And

678
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: also you can start to almost infantilize athletes who are

679
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: grown ass adult badasses because you see them as something

680
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: other than what they are. And I was thinking about

681
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: Oxano Masters and how she and Jesse Diggins both talk

682
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: about the Pain Cave. They both talk about their embrace

683
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: of feeling it all and how they are able to

684
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: fight through it. And we probably viewed their experience with

685
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: that very differently, and we shouldn't, because they're both just

686
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: crazy athletes that are willing to put their bodies through

687
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: helen back in order to get that gold. So I

688
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: love that you mentioned that, Alex, and give yourself grace.

689
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: We're all learning and we're all hopefully experiencing more and

690
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: more Paralympic athletes in social and watching more of the games.

691
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: But now that you know that, you know, have conversations

692
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: with your friends and start talking about these athletes in

693
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: a more evolved way now that you've got that info.

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Speaker 5: Another thing is that I hear a lot of people

695
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: saying paralympians are participating in X event or y event,

696
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: but they're competing. I don't think I hear people saying

697
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 5: that Lindsay Vaughan is participating in an event and.

698
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Or anything else right now, too soon to soon, but true.

699
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: So you know, these athletes are competing just like any

700
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: other athlete is competing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Love that all right. I

702
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: feel so much more ready for these Paralympics. And it's

703
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: always nice to get a little big Citrus sesh, even

704
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: if we're holding each other accountable, which is what we're

705
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: gonna do after this break when we come back, we're

706
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: doing our best. Okay, welcome back, Slices. We want you

707
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to join us in a little two month check up

708
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: on those big plans you had for twenty twenty six.

709
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: New job, more Vacas, better butt. Let's get the rest

710
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: of big Citrus back in here to start holding each

711
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: other accountable.

712
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: Who said better butt.

713
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: None of us. I'm just guessing that somebody wanted a butt.

714
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean I did get a better butt because of

715
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: all those hills on Italy, didn't you.

716
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Speaker 3: I loved getting a notification from my phone one week

717
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: into the games and it was like, your activity has

718
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: increased compared to normal. I was like, I would be

719
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: getting ten thousand steps a day every day if only

720
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: I could always be at the Olympics.

721
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Mine, On the that we were traveling, carrying our

722
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: suitcases up and down flights of stairs to try to

723
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: get to Lavigno said something like, congrats, you're moving more

724
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: by ten am this morning. I'm like, Jianka. You know,

725
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: at the top of the year, Alex and I said

726
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: our intentions for the year, and now that you've joined

727
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: the team, you're sort of roped into this. So before

728
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: we remember what ours are and tell people whether we're

729
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: sticking to them, do you remember if you actually made

730
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: any of year's intentions.

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Speaker 5: I did, and it was for the first time in

732
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Speaker 5: maybe a couple of years. I think I had, like

733
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 5: many people, maybe avoided this kind of thing for a

734
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: few years, but this year I made the intention to

735
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: laugh more, not only to seek truly funny and joyful moments.

736
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Speaker 5: But also if something is inconvenient or if something you

737
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 5: know goes awry, just.

738
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Speaker 1: Laugh through it, have it slide off my back. I

739
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: love that.

740
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, so in a less serious way and a more

741
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 5: serious way, just to laugh more.

742
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I love that. That's such a great one. And actually

743
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: what's so interesting is how if you approach a situation

744
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: with the belief that some thing might not go the

745
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: way you want, and you decide in advance, this is

746
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: how I'll react if that happens. You can't do it

747
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: in the moment in a way that you wouldn't otherwise,

748
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: like if it surprises you and you're not ready for it.

749
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: In fact, when we were coming back into the country

750
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: after our Olympics trip, just in case, I prepared myself

751
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: for the possibility that I might have some issues at

752
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: security due to unnamed things that happened while we were gone,

753
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, it won't be fun either way,

754
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: but let me just set my expectation that if this happened,

755
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: I won't be like, oh my god, what the fuck

756
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: is happening. I'll be like, all right, right, someone's gonna

757
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: put a little scare in me. I'm gonna power my weight.

758
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: They'm gonna be calm. Thankfully, it never happened and it

759
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: never will.

760
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: This is gonna be great material for my autobiography. Yes,

761
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: a good story to tell.

762
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: That's what we say. It was either a good day

763
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: or a good story.

764
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: I personally cannot wait for our future big Citrus conversations, Pianka,

765
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: when I expect you to laugh at every slightly funny thing.

766
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: I say, I got one. I got one already.

767
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that. You know, clearly, that's

768
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: why she switched jobs and came to work with us,

769
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: because she knew she wanted to laugh more every day.

770
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: Hmmm, you're not wrong.

771
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. Not that your last job wasn't fun.

772
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: It was a little more serious than this one. Yeah,

773
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they were having any unrivaled team drafts

774
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: involving wife caring competitions. Let's just say that, all right.

775
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with mine. I have done a great

776
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: job filling in my eyebrows, to the point where while

777
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: we were in Italy, my pencil ran out and I

778
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: found us afore it to buy a new one because

779
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: I was like, I will not go into the day

780
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: without my eyebrows on. So I think there's probably been

781
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: three times since January first where I left the house

782
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, I forgot to put

783
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: my eyebrows on. But other than that, in fact, today

784
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: I even went and got them waxed, so now they're like, wow,

785
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: look at super clean. So my eyebrows a plus. Now.

786
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: My other one trying to continue adjusting my wake up

787
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: time for like reading in a new schedule. I don't

788
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: even think that counts because January was spent preparing to

789
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: be gone for all of February, and February I was

790
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: gone the whole month, so there was no way of

791
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: keeping it schedule unless that schedule was basically sleeping six

792
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: hours a night and eating one meal a day and

793
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: walking uphill for most of the day. So if that

794
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: was my schedule, I nailed it. And then the third

795
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: one was like really appreciating the simple joys, which I

796
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: don't think going to the Olympics is a simple joy,

797
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: but I appreciated it and it was making me joyful

798
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: every single day. And I have to get to the

799
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: other ones. I haven't made bread yet. It's on the

800
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: list for this month. I'm setting a one month limit

801
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: for my first bread endeavor to be sometime during the

802
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: month of March. I have not had an occasion to

803
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: be in a swimsuit yet, which means I haven't been

804
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: anywhere warm, and I have danced once to great music.

805
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: So I've checked off the dancing, but I need to

806
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: add some more of them. And so I think I'm

807
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: doing a pretty fucking good job, particularly since I was

808
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: gone for an entire month with a completely different life

809
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: than anticipated. Alex, how about you.

810
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: I do have bake a loaf of bread on my

811
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Bingo card.

812
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you made an actual Bengo card. Oh

813
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: my god. For those who are not viewing this, which

814
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: is everyone except for us, Alex has an actual, cute, little,

815
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: pretty colorful Bengo card. So when you say I didn't

816
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: have that on my Bengo cart for the year, you literally,

817
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: I literally have a big cart.

818
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think I maybe need some help checking

819
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: it off because I haven't done it yet, and I

820
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: also have a lot that our summer weather events like

821
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: like day. My intention was to remind myself that intentions

822
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: can be fun, So pretty much everything on here is

823
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: fun and extracurricular activity. I think the only one I've

824
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 3: really checked off so far is the Free Space, which

825
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: is turned thirty four.

826
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Yay you did it.

827
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it, And I need to check off though.

828
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: Go to a museum because during my little time in

829
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: Paris last week, my unexpected trip to.

830
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: Paris, I went to a museum.

831
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Speaker 3: Which one I went to the Museum Marmatin Monnet And

832
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: I have to say, despite the fact that I'm an

833
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: art person, I'm actually not an art museum person. I'm

834
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: very specific about them. I find them extremely overwhelming. I

835
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: love a guided tour where you can ask human questions

836
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: and there's a specific focus and you're going to the

837
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: context of the history. So I was like, I'm going

838
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: to go to a museum this time, and I specifically

839
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: asked a whole bunch of people for recommendations on approachable

840
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: museums that wouldn't overwhelm me, and somebody came up with

841
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: this one and it was a winner.

842
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Glad to hear it. Muse Doors is my favorite. It

843
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: is super red. All right, guys, I'm pretty proud of us.

844
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: I think we did a pretty good job. Slices. How

845
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: about you be honest? How you doing did you give

846
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: up immediately. Are you holding strong, are you doing well?

847
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you have some new improved intentions that you figured

848
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: out in the last month or two that you can

849
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: now stick to for the rest of the year. Maybe

850
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: you've given up because, as we said in January, maybe

851
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: it's time for the year to be better, not us.

852
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, I wouldn't blame you, because just getting out

853
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: of bed should be celebrated. Right now, we are waking

854
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: up to a fresh new hell every morning. So you

855
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: know what, whether you did it or not, take it

856
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: easy on yourselves. But if you want to, you could

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Speaker 1: Melo quote the pair of animals chosen as mascots of

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Speaker 1: the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games are stoats, weasel like

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Speaker 1: They look fine now, but they are increasingly impacted by

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