WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Four 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.880 I saw an article in New York Times about the 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.640 final Dead Shows shows of their tour. They said there's 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.040 chances they'll get back together again for a benefit or something, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.159 but they're never going to tour again, they claim. I 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.600 don't think they probably actually are. They've made that claim 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.000 many times. Are the years they're very old. Yeah, Barbweer's 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.599 like Joe biden Ol and I noticed him well, it 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.680 was he was gigging as an adult during the Summer 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.799 of Love in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, that's one of 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.720 the things I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.440 speaking of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.479 I went was, it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.919 a concert in I think fifteen years, so it's been 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.360 a long time. So i'd been to a concert and 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.000 Dead and Company was coming to the area. It's sixty 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.600 miles from my house, and I kind of thought about 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.159 it a couple of times, and I looked at prices. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.920 They're too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:51.800 I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.320 two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.520 on my motorcycle rode into San Francisco to the baseball 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:02.080 line yea, and didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.720 I think people started to panic. Some of the people 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.679 that had put I'll sell you one for eight thousand 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.679 dollars for starting to panic if they had some left, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.160 so it didn't get a bad price anyway. I was 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.240 trying to figure out while I was sitting there in 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.600 the concert, I was trying to figure out what is 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.240 the phenomenon of the whole grateful dead thing. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.039 As you mentioned, they've been doing this. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.720 For fifty five years, fifty seven years something like that, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.959 with only a couple of exceptions. Every song they play 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.399 is fifty plus years old. They haven't created they haven't 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:37.520 created anything new and forever. And the crowd and the place, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.039 I don't know if it was sold out, but I 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.840 didn't see any empty seats up in the stands. The 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.240 crowd varied. There were lots of twenty somethings, there were 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.800 lots of thirty somethings, forty something, fifty something, sixty something, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.320 seventy somethings, every age group there. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.680 And I don't know what they. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.680 Created or why. I just I was just looking around 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.120 trying to take it all in, trying to figure out 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.720 what what happened here? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.160 Why has nobody else ever been able to do this. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:08.480 I remember when we were in Charlotte, North Carolina, the 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.240 Grateful Dead came through in the mid nineties, and I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.600 didn't know anything about the Grateful Dead. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.120 I've never really been into the Grateful Dead. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.040 They came through town and I didn't go to the concert, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.160 but I was at a party that night at a 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.560 house and a number of people had been to the 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.520 Dead concert and they this is pre internet. So in 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.880 the Internet era, obviously you can go online and check 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.440 what the set list is for every concert and they 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.799 would be posted as soon as the. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.720 Concert is over. But this was before the internet. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.240 So these guys would run home and some of them 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.000 took scraps of paper and pens with them. Some of 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.000 them were just using their knowledge, and they were sitting 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.400 there at the kitchen table at this party saying, okay, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:44.960 so what did they play first set? Well, they opened 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.000 with this open with that. They're writing it all down. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.600 They kept the log of all the concerts they'd seen 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.400 in the set list in a way that just I 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.799 don't think happens that often with bands part of it 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:58.160 is they don't play that many songs because each song 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.920 is thirteen to fifteen minutes long. So you play like 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.120 four songs, take a break, play four more songs, and 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.680 your three hours are up. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.280 That's one weird aspect of the whole thing. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.280 The other thing is they don't come out and say 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.239 a word, and never have, according to the New York Times. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.680 They don't say, hey, Atlanta, good to be here. Here's 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.440 one from the new while, you know, thanks for coming, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.240 or nothing. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:21.919 They don't see it. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.080 Now. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:23.560 They wander out and start playing. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.720 They wander I'll start playing, and when they're done, they 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.440 walk off and that's it. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.160 And and from the beginning. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.480 Another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.680 and posting live recordings, and they got gazillions a live. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.320 Albums and just well, do you tell. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.240 Me what is different about that band that allowed them 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.520 to tour for fifty some years. I was just looking 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.920 up still one of the top grossing concert tours out there. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.200 They didn't play that many shows, but they're making gazillions 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.760 of dollars yea in ticket sales and t shirt sales 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.320 and everything like that thing before I let you you 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.960 answer the question, because you know more about it than 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.240 I do. So they walk out, they start playing, and 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.040 it's got a drum beat to it that I don't 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.880 quite recognize off the top of my head, because all 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.080 the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.000 a similar thing. And everybody's twirling. All the girls are 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.640 twirling in their thing, and then everybody's dancing everything like that. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.600 Not a single person in that stadium that I saw 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.760 sat for one second three and a half hours. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.520 I've never been to a concert like that. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.599 I've been to plenty of concerts with people stand for 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.360 the big hits, then sit back down for a slow 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:31.960 song or whatever. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.039 Not a person I was expecting to get to sit 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.640 for a while. None of that happened. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.440 So they do the drumbeat, drum beat, and they opened 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.200 with the Buddy Holly song that they. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.400 Do regularly, probably not fade away, Yeah yeah. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.640 And so then the drum the drum stop, and then 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.200 the whole crowd in Unison says I'm gonna tell you 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.599 what I'm gonna do it, and then everybody saying every 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.520 word to every song for three and a half hours, 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:56.120 never said down. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.280 I've never seen anything like that. Why is that. Can 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:01.280 you tell me why that is? 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.920 I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.880 very question, and they are book length, as books often are. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.479 I would say, I mean number one. At the beginning, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.880 they were just a whale of a band. I mean, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:20.200 just a terrific band that was incredible. Well, you know, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.920 there's a couple of sayings among musicians ragged but right 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.839 or loose but tight. They had a combination of being 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:33.680 extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and really fun 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.680 music to listen to if you're stoned. Plus they have 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.400 a weird like hippie community thing going like, we're all here, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.880 we're all friends, nobody's gonna get ugly, it's going to 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.360 be great. Everybody's gonna enjoy themselves, nobody's gonna judge anybody else. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.560 We're gonna listen to the jams and have a great time, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:52.760 you know. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:53.159 There. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.240 And there are actually other bands that have it, you 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.400 just don't hear about. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:57.599 It as much. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.360 Fish has an enormous following that's very grateful, deadlike, and 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.640 there are a couple others Dave Vatsey's band, surely. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.560 But not on that scale for that long. Without ever 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.240 putting any news out. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.320 Well, no, no, that's what's just like you. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.360 And how do you grow new fans in their twenties 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.960 with fifty five year old songs? 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.680 I mean it's I don't know. 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.760 Well, part of it's that the songs hold up pretty 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.120 well and it's a jam. Part of it's just there's 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.000 an attraction to being part of that that draws young people. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.400 The whole i'm a hippie thing is is hot amongst 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.000 your your twenty somethings, at least in some quarters. Oregon 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.039 for instance, right, oh yeah. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.960 The people sitting next to me were from Oregon and 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.279 they were going to all three shows. Everybody around me 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.039 was going to all three shows. I was the only 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.240 one that was just going to the one the one show, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.760 and it was a mom and dad roughly my age, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.320 with their high school kids. They brought all their kids, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.760 and their kids knew all the words every song. It's 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.360 unlike anything I've ever been around. I've been I got 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.760 plenty of acts that I like that do that on 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.640 a smaller scale, like there's several hundred people that are 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:17.120 that into it, but not hundreds of thousands. For six decades. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.440 It's just yeah, I don't And then I wonder how 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.280 much of it was. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.400 It like grew on itself, like you know, becomes a thing, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.800 and a thing is that it's nothing draws like a crowd, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:29.560 that whole thing. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.160 Right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:36.679 It's it's such an attractive like vibe, an attractive corner 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.480 of human kind that people who weren't there at the beginning, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.320 or if you know, they didn't grow up with the 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.440 songs or whatever. Just the idea that that many people 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.320 could get together and have their energy be so positive 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.200 and a lack of conflict and a lack of people 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.560 being a holes like people tend to be, and listening 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.560 to the music and dancing and stuff. It's just it's 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:02.080 an attractive proposition. And you know why, you know why? 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.400 It's it's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.640 I don't know. It's it's hard, it's magic, it's culture, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:09.480 it's a vibe. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.000 I thought, at some point, surely we're gonna sit down 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.800 during one of these slow songs, aren't we. I mean, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.280 we's a Friday night, We've all worked all week long, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.560 We're all a little tired. Come on, a lot of 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.280 you are way older than I am. Surely Nope, nobody 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.119 was sitting down at any point, even for a moment. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.880 Well, I am a fan, I am not a dead head. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.400 I have some good friends who are here. Is my 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:37.120 horrifying Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive but horrifying, grateful, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.680 dead claim to fame. I was at Jerry Garcia's last 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:46.240 show before he died in Chicago. Did you play a 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.400 role or many years ago? And I fell sound asleep 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.880 halfway through it? Fell asleep because I may have been 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.120 over served. Fell Well, yeah, okay, you call it what 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.800 you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.559 Oh my god, if drinking beer and all getting rid 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.760 of it and then sitting there baking in the sun 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:12.640 and Soldier Field just baking. I'm surprised that has this 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.319 all been Maybe I'm dead. Maybe I died that day 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.239 and this has all been a prolonged illucination. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.600 It was like fifty five degrees in the middle of 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.160 the concert for this one, So yeah, I didn't have 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:23.840 that problem. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.360 Yeah you were better off, trust me. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:25.679 I don't know. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.240 John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.800 zipped up around his ears. The way he did, He's 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.560 flicked flipping phenomenal. By the way, John Mayer is just 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.000 freaking unreal. Yeah, he's a monster, but he's not happy 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:39.880 to have it come to an end. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:40.280 I don't know. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.520 There's not much said about why they decided to wrap 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.440 it up. New York Times went deep on that over 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.480 the weekend. But I didn't notice that Bob Weir, he 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.200 would play for a while and then he would take 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.200 his hand off and shake his hand a lot. And 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.000 I hadn't seen that in videos before because I've watched 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.280 a lot of Dead and Company videos over the last 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.679 several years. Because I just like got into it when 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:04.199 John Mayor joined, which I know makes me something something 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.560 uncool among real Dead advances and Jerry Come Lately yeah something. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.720 But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I wonder if 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.920 he doesn't have something that physical it's happened. I mean, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.040 he just can't play every night like that. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.360 Handful of my favorite musicians have had to give it 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.840 up because Arthrit asserted something, But how are. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.160 You standing up there for three and a half hours 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.680 and paying attention to what you're doing. I'm dying out 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.760 here standing for three and a half I don't know. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:27.800 Maybe they think about how much money they're making. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:34.160 Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, y Sinek, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.560 you couldn't be a deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.280 out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:40.559 bald man over here. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.880 Man get out. It was definitely the single best vibe 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.920 at that scale that I've ever been around in my life. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.400 And man, that's a heck of a thing to pull off. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.240 I doubt it'll ever be recreated, certainly, not for that length. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:11:02.320 Not possible, not in the modern world. No, The New 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:08.280 York Times with a hilariously long article about pants and 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:12.040 how wide pants are in now and skinny pants are out, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.199 which it was hilarious. I read quite a bit of 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.520 it just because I found it hilarious, how seriously they 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.920 took this topic and how in depth they went in 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.960 The New York Times about it. But anyway that we 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.720 then played a little clip of Lyndon Baines Johnson, president 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:34.600 of the United States from sixty three to sixty eight, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.280 talking to his tailor on the phone about his pants, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.480 and Katie had never heard it before because Katie's new 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:41.920 to the show. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.160 Roughly how long you've been here a year. Yeah, wow, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.120 time flies. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.160 Yikes. So this is Lindon made Johnson who had his 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.160 pants special made by a Taylor back in Texas and LBJ. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:55.400 A corn Pone. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.480 That's actually what the Kennedy people called him, Colonel corn 0:11:58.559 --> 0:11:59.520 Pone to his face. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.480 Uh wow, that's a nice relationship. Anyway. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.680 He's from small town, Texas and he's talking to his 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.559 tailor about getting a new pair of pants ordered, and 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.560 it sounded something like this, miss. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:15.120 Tager Joe Hager Joe is your father, the one that 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:16.440 makes clothes. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.160 Yet there we're all together. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:25.560 Uh. You all made me some real light weight slacks. Uh. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.360 He just made up on his own sentiment or four 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.160 months ago. It's a kind of a light brown and 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:37.360 a light green, rather soft green and soft brown, and 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.880 the real light weight. I need about six pairs way 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.080 around in the evening when I come in from work, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.599 and I need about a half inch too tight in 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:49.040 the waist. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.560 He recalled it back then that didn't wanted to want 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.000 to deal with. 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.319 Get him right, fat you know, I don't know. You 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.280 all just guessed out of my things. So but once 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.120 you have the measurements there, we'll find for you I 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.240 can send you a pair. I want them a half 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.280 inch larger in the waist than the where before, except 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.600 I want two or three inches of stuff left back 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.400 in there so I can take them up. I bury 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:14.200 ten or fifteen pounds a month, all right, So leave 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.760 me at least two and a half three inches in 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.079 the back where I can let them out, or take 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.040 them up and make these a half inch bigger than 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.439 the waist. Make the pockets at least an inch longer. Money, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:31.600 my money, and my knife everything fall out now the pockets. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.120 When you sit down in the chair, the knife and 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.920 your money comes out. So I need at least another 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.800 inch in the pockets. Yeah. Now another thing with critch 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.120 down where you hang is always a little too tight. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.920 So when you make them up, give me an inch 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.200 that I can let out there, because they cut me. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.160 It's just like riding a wire fence. These are almost 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.560 the best that I've had anywhere in the United States. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.480 But when I get ain't a little weight, they cut 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.720 me under there. So leave me. You never do have 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.959 much margin that, But see if you can't leave me 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.360 about it an age from the word of zippering and 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.280 around under my back to my hole. So I grit 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.720 it out there. If I need to be sure he 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.120 got the best zippers in them. These are good that 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.960 I have and if you get those coming out, I 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.360 will sure be grateful. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.800 There you go in a historical moment, actual phone call with 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.960 president of the United States and cut me like I'm 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.640 shitting on a wire fencer. Oh the fact. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:43.800 Leave me my margin. You gotta have margin. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.960 The fact that he burps right before he uses the 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.640 word is my favorite part. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:54.040 That is that's one of my favorite pieces of amazing. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:55.400 It's amazing. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.200 Oh it shows you who he was. He was from 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.760 poor to hill country to his bones. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:03.520 That's what he was. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.600 Uh huh right, And it's probably worth the tip of 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.280 the cap that he was calling the Hagar family who became, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.880 you know, one of the great clothiers of that time 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:12.440 of history. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:21.040 About five inches right back to my that's the best 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.280 part of not crotch, you know where money, Yeah, we 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.720 know what a crotch is. The reason people use the 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.440 word crotch is so they don't have to say where 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:39.120 you're maney money has some plain talk there and if 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.880 you're actually into you know, history and this sort of stuff. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.800 The Carol book about the relationship between LBJ and the 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.600 Kennedy family is amazing because you just. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:49.520 Heard who the guy was. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:56.920 That's way different than the Kennedy clan, the Kennedys of Harvard. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.200 highennus Port Kennedy's and there, you know, golf clubs and 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.600 tennis clubs and that sort of stuff. No wonder they 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.640 didn't get along with when vice versa with LBJ. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:13.800 Oh my god, where their patrician accents and their crisp 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.880 suits and the rest of it with practically no margin whether. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.960 They'reang or banged at the time from there. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.760 Yeah, it seem in the minimum, it's like riding a 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:24.600 rail fence. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 I mean, it's just, oh my god. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.040 Something my grandfather would say. Well, that's how I gained 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.440 some weight back, and it. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.640 Cuts me, cuts me. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:42.480 Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show, we 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.400 got this is about the way I grill and the 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.160 pictures I've tweeted out and Katie's complain about my grilling 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.080 re IQ differences, which we were talking about differences different 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.480 kinds of intelligence earlier in the show. Somebody texted Jack 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.400 seems to be brilliant at history, but then he puts 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.040 his grilling utensils on the ground. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.280 So, yes, there are different kinds of intelligence. That's a 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:10.760 great point. Yes, the contrast shocking. I don't know why 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.040 I put the spatul on the ground. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.400 And well, not just that, but then we brought When 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.480 we pointed it out to you said, well where else where? 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.840 Should I put them anywhere else? 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:19.280 Jack? 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.840 Yes, even on a paper towel on the ground, although 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.479 that's just partial credit. Did get this note from Dan 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.960 in North Carolina. I'm with you, Jack, I have zero 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.520 interest in grilling, and am convinced that half the men 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.640 that claim to be interested are latent junior high schooler's 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.240 desperate to fit in. So, like the brave, masked intellectual 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.680 walking your parade route, I say f you to those 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:42.320 who boast. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.399 Yeah, I don't mean. I don't think there's got to 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.600 be a flaw in other people that liked grill. I 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.359 just I just don't enjoy it, and I have no 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:53.919 interest in learning to be better at it. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.919 And then Dan spends a tale worth telling as an aside, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.200 I have a relative by marriage. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.480 Of course, fancy himself a master griller. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.880 So the propane grill was too bourgeois, so he purchased 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.840 the same charcoal grill you have, except apparently he couldn't 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.679 figure out how to install the legs, so he just 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.480 put it on top of a deck railing. Then he 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.320 lit the fire in there, burned a hole almost completely 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.159 through a plywood table, and emblazoned the leaves around the 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.600 car port, which led to a fire department visit. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.480 Emblazoned. He is in quotes like that reporter bet his 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:33.360 stakes are great, though, Yeah, the grillest and the anti grillist. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.200 Ye is that the newest fault line, the dividing line 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.400 in American society. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.879 Yeah, so I'm giving up on that manly skill, but 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.399 hoping I make for it and other manly areas, like 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.879 if you couldn't put the legs on that grill, you 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.760 really have no ability to fix or work on anything. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:53.600 Holy crap. They're like, yeah, two screws in a wing nut. Yes, Katie, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.600 Ye man card is at risk. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:55.800 Oh. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.399 I just think that if you if you had a 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:03.639 different grill, it might change your experience a little bit. Yeah, 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.240 it can't be comfortable being down in that position grilling 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:06.760 at all. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.960 No, it's not comfortable in that position doing anything, right. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.520 How much did you spend for that grill Jack, I 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.760 honestly think it was on sale. I think it was 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.520 eight dollars because it was on sale. It was like 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.120 they had two left. Should you spend. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.280 Dollar a grill? A guy? Now he's lying. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:25.800 He stole it from the guy that lives in front 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:26.840 of the radio station. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.720 Right, who lives in his beaten down RV. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.119 It's the mini Weber, right that sits like a foot 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:33.760 off the ground. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.119 The top of it. It's a foot foot of maybe a 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:36.880