Speaker 1: I saw an article in New York Times about the
Speaker 1: final Dead Shows shows of their tour. They said there's
Speaker 1: chances they'll get back together again for a benefit or something,
Speaker 1: but they're never going to tour again, they claim. I
Speaker 1: don't think they probably actually are. They've made that claim
Speaker 1: many times. Are the years they're very old. Yeah, Barbweer's
Speaker 1: like Joe biden Ol and I noticed him well, it
Speaker 1: was he was gigging as an adult during the Summer
Speaker 1: of Love in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, that's one of
Speaker 1: the things I want to bring up with this phenomenon. So,
Speaker 1: speaking of it being a phenomenon, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I went was, it's a phenomenon. I haven't been to
Speaker 1: a concert in I think fifteen years, so it's been
Speaker 1: a long time. So i'd been to a concert and
Speaker 1: Dead and Company was coming to the area. It's sixty
Speaker 1: miles from my house, and I kind of thought about
Speaker 1: it a couple of times, and I looked at prices.
Speaker 1: They're too high. Anyway, I finally decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. So I bought a ticket
Speaker 1: two hours before, three hours before the show started, hopped
Speaker 1: on my motorcycle rode into San Francisco to the baseball
Speaker 1: line yea, and didn't even pay a ton for it. Luckily,
Speaker 1: I think people started to panic. Some of the people
Speaker 1: that had put I'll sell you one for eight thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for starting to panic if they had some left,
Speaker 1: so it didn't get a bad price anyway. I was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out while I was sitting there in
Speaker 1: the concert, I was trying to figure out what is
Speaker 1: the phenomenon of the whole grateful dead thing.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, they've been doing this.
Speaker 1: For fifty five years, fifty seven years something like that,
Speaker 1: with only a couple of exceptions. Every song they play
Speaker 1: is fifty plus years old. They haven't created they haven't
Speaker 1: created anything new and forever. And the crowd and the place,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was sold out, but I
Speaker 1: didn't see any empty seats up in the stands. The
Speaker 1: crowd varied. There were lots of twenty somethings, there were
Speaker 1: lots of thirty somethings, forty something, fifty something, sixty something,
Speaker 1: seventy somethings, every age group there.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what they.
Speaker 1: Created or why. I just I was just looking around
Speaker 1: trying to take it all in, trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what what happened here?
Speaker 2: Why has nobody else ever been able to do this.
Speaker 1: I remember when we were in Charlotte, North Carolina, the
Speaker 1: Grateful Dead came through in the mid nineties, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2: I've never really been into the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 1: They came through town and I didn't go to the concert,
Speaker 1: but I was at a party that night at a
Speaker 1: house and a number of people had been to the
Speaker 1: Dead concert and they this is pre internet. So in
Speaker 1: the Internet era, obviously you can go online and check
Speaker 1: what the set list is for every concert and they
Speaker 1: would be posted as soon as the.
Speaker 2: Concert is over. But this was before the internet.
Speaker 1: So these guys would run home and some of them
Speaker 1: took scraps of paper and pens with them. Some of
Speaker 1: them were just using their knowledge, and they were sitting
Speaker 1: there at the kitchen table at this party saying, okay,
Speaker 1: so what did they play first set? Well, they opened
Speaker 1: with this open with that. They're writing it all down.
Speaker 1: They kept the log of all the concerts they'd seen
Speaker 1: in the set list in a way that just I
Speaker 1: don't think happens that often with bands part of it
Speaker 1: is they don't play that many songs because each song
Speaker 1: is thirteen to fifteen minutes long. So you play like
Speaker 1: four songs, take a break, play four more songs, and
Speaker 1: your three hours are up.
Speaker 2: That's one weird aspect of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The other thing is they don't come out and say
Speaker 1: a word, and never have, according to the New York Times.
Speaker 1: They don't say, hey, Atlanta, good to be here. Here's
Speaker 1: one from the new while, you know, thanks for coming,
Speaker 1: or nothing.
Speaker 2: They don't see it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: They wander out and start playing.
Speaker 1: They wander I'll start playing, and when they're done, they
Speaker 1: walk off and that's it.
Speaker 2: And and from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Another interesting thing is they've always encouraged people recording it
Speaker 1: and posting live recordings, and they got gazillions a live.
Speaker 2: Albums and just well, do you tell.
Speaker 1: Me what is different about that band that allowed them
Speaker 1: to tour for fifty some years. I was just looking
Speaker 1: up still one of the top grossing concert tours out there.
Speaker 1: They didn't play that many shows, but they're making gazillions
Speaker 1: of dollars yea in ticket sales and t shirt sales
Speaker 1: and everything like that thing before I let you you
Speaker 1: answer the question, because you know more about it than
Speaker 1: I do. So they walk out, they start playing, and
Speaker 1: it's got a drum beat to it that I don't
Speaker 1: quite recognize off the top of my head, because all
Speaker 1: the songs kind of have a similar drum beat and
Speaker 1: a similar thing. And everybody's twirling. All the girls are
Speaker 1: twirling in their thing, and then everybody's dancing everything like that.
Speaker 1: Not a single person in that stadium that I saw
Speaker 1: sat for one second three and a half hours.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a concert like that.
Speaker 1: I've been to plenty of concerts with people stand for
Speaker 1: the big hits, then sit back down for a slow
Speaker 1: song or whatever.
Speaker 2: Not a person I was expecting to get to sit
Speaker 2: for a while. None of that happened.
Speaker 1: So they do the drumbeat, drum beat, and they opened
Speaker 1: with the Buddy Holly song that they.
Speaker 2: Do regularly, probably not fade away, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so then the drum the drum stop, and then
Speaker 1: the whole crowd in Unison says I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do it, and then everybody saying every
Speaker 1: word to every song for three and a half hours,
Speaker 1: never said down.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that. Why is that. Can
Speaker 2: you tell me why that is?
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are multiple books written to address that
Speaker 4: very question, and they are book length, as books often are.
Speaker 4: I would say, I mean number one. At the beginning,
Speaker 4: they were just a whale of a band. I mean,
Speaker 4: just a terrific band that was incredible. Well, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a couple of sayings among musicians ragged but right
Speaker 4: or loose but tight. They had a combination of being
Speaker 4: extremely good and extremely loose and improvisational and really fun
Speaker 4: music to listen to if you're stoned. Plus they have
Speaker 4: a weird like hippie community thing going like, we're all here,
Speaker 4: we're all friends, nobody's gonna get ugly, it's going to
Speaker 4: be great. Everybody's gonna enjoy themselves, nobody's gonna judge anybody else.
Speaker 4: We're gonna listen to the jams and have a great time,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: And there are actually other bands that have it, you
Speaker 4: just don't hear about.
Speaker 2: It as much.
Speaker 4: Fish has an enormous following that's very grateful, deadlike, and
Speaker 4: there are a couple others Dave Vatsey's band, surely.
Speaker 1: But not on that scale for that long. Without ever
Speaker 1: putting any news out.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, that's what's just like you.
Speaker 1: And how do you grow new fans in their twenties
Speaker 1: with fifty five year old songs?
Speaker 2: I mean it's I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, part of it's that the songs hold up pretty
Speaker 4: well and it's a jam. Part of it's just there's
Speaker 4: an attraction to being part of that that draws young people.
Speaker 4: The whole i'm a hippie thing is is hot amongst
Speaker 4: your your twenty somethings, at least in some quarters. Oregon
Speaker 4: for instance, right, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The people sitting next to me were from Oregon and
Speaker 1: they were going to all three shows. Everybody around me
Speaker 1: was going to all three shows. I was the only
Speaker 1: one that was just going to the one the one show,
Speaker 1: and it was a mom and dad roughly my age,
Speaker 1: with their high school kids. They brought all their kids,
Speaker 1: and their kids knew all the words every song. It's
Speaker 1: unlike anything I've ever been around. I've been I got
Speaker 1: plenty of acts that I like that do that on
Speaker 1: a smaller scale, like there's several hundred people that are
Speaker 1: that into it, but not hundreds of thousands. For six decades.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, I don't And then I wonder how
Speaker 2: much of it was.
Speaker 1: It like grew on itself, like you know, becomes a thing,
Speaker 1: and a thing is that it's nothing draws like a crowd,
Speaker 1: that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's it's such an attractive like vibe, an attractive corner
Speaker 4: of human kind that people who weren't there at the beginning,
Speaker 4: or if you know, they didn't grow up with the
Speaker 4: songs or whatever. Just the idea that that many people
Speaker 4: could get together and have their energy be so positive
Speaker 4: and a lack of conflict and a lack of people
Speaker 4: being a holes like people tend to be, and listening
Speaker 4: to the music and dancing and stuff. It's just it's
Speaker 4: an attractive proposition. And you know why, you know why?
Speaker 4: It's it's on a scale that nobody else has ever matched.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's hard, it's magic, it's culture,
Speaker 2: it's a vibe.
Speaker 1: I thought, at some point, surely we're gonna sit down
Speaker 1: during one of these slow songs, aren't we. I mean,
Speaker 1: we's a Friday night, We've all worked all week long,
Speaker 1: We're all a little tired. Come on, a lot of
Speaker 1: you are way older than I am. Surely Nope, nobody
Speaker 1: was sitting down at any point, even for a moment.
Speaker 4: Well, I am a fan, I am not a dead head.
Speaker 4: I have some good friends who are here. Is my
Speaker 4: horrifying Well, I'm sorry, it's my impressive but horrifying, grateful,
Speaker 4: dead claim to fame. I was at Jerry Garcia's last
Speaker 4: show before he died in Chicago. Did you play a
Speaker 4: role or many years ago? And I fell sound asleep
Speaker 4: halfway through it? Fell asleep because I may have been
Speaker 4: over served. Fell Well, yeah, okay, you call it what
Speaker 4: you want. It was a very hot summer day in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, if drinking beer and all getting rid
Speaker 4: of it and then sitting there baking in the sun
Speaker 4: and Soldier Field just baking. I'm surprised that has this
Speaker 4: all been Maybe I'm dead. Maybe I died that day
Speaker 4: and this has all been a prolonged illucination.
Speaker 1: It was like fifty five degrees in the middle of
Speaker 1: the concert for this one, So yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 1: that problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah you were better off, trust me.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: John Mayer plays guitar with a giant winter coat on
Speaker 1: zipped up around his ears. The way he did, He's
Speaker 1: flicked flipping phenomenal. By the way, John Mayer is just
Speaker 1: freaking unreal. Yeah, he's a monster, but he's not happy
Speaker 1: to have it come to an end.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's not much said about why they decided to wrap
Speaker 1: it up. New York Times went deep on that over
Speaker 1: the weekend. But I didn't notice that Bob Weir, he
Speaker 1: would play for a while and then he would take
Speaker 1: his hand off and shake his hand a lot. And
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that in videos before because I've watched
Speaker 1: a lot of Dead and Company videos over the last
Speaker 1: several years. Because I just like got into it when
Speaker 1: John Mayor joined, which I know makes me something something
Speaker 1: uncool among real Dead advances and Jerry Come Lately yeah something.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he wasn't doing that before. I wonder if
Speaker 1: he doesn't have something that physical it's happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just can't play every night like that.
Speaker 4: Handful of my favorite musicians have had to give it
Speaker 4: up because Arthrit asserted something, But how are.
Speaker 1: You standing up there for three and a half hours
Speaker 1: and paying attention to what you're doing. I'm dying out
Speaker 1: here standing for three and a half I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they think about how much money they're making.
Speaker 4: Maybe they enjoy playing music. Listen to you, y Sinek,
Speaker 4: you couldn't be a deadhead. I'm surprised you weren't drummed
Speaker 4: out of the stadium. I'm getting bad vibes from the
Speaker 4: bald man over here.
Speaker 1: Man get out. It was definitely the single best vibe
Speaker 1: at that scale that I've ever been around in my life.
Speaker 1: And man, that's a heck of a thing to pull off.
Speaker 1: I doubt it'll ever be recreated, certainly, not for that length.
Speaker 1: Not possible, not in the modern world. No, The New
Speaker 1: York Times with a hilariously long article about pants and
Speaker 1: how wide pants are in now and skinny pants are out,
Speaker 1: which it was hilarious. I read quite a bit of
Speaker 1: it just because I found it hilarious, how seriously they
Speaker 1: took this topic and how in depth they went in
Speaker 1: The New York Times about it. But anyway that we
Speaker 1: then played a little clip of Lyndon Baines Johnson, president
Speaker 1: of the United States from sixty three to sixty eight,
Speaker 1: talking to his tailor on the phone about his pants,
Speaker 1: and Katie had never heard it before because Katie's new
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 2: Roughly how long you've been here a year. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: time flies.
Speaker 1: Yikes. So this is Lindon made Johnson who had his
Speaker 1: pants special made by a Taylor back in Texas and LBJ.
Speaker 2: A corn Pone.
Speaker 1: That's actually what the Kennedy people called him, Colonel corn
Speaker 1: Pone to his face.
Speaker 2: Uh wow, that's a nice relationship. Anyway.
Speaker 1: He's from small town, Texas and he's talking to his
Speaker 1: tailor about getting a new pair of pants ordered, and
Speaker 1: it sounded something like this, miss.
Speaker 3: Tager Joe Hager Joe is your father, the one that
Speaker 3: makes clothes.
Speaker 2: Yet there we're all together.
Speaker 3: Uh. You all made me some real light weight slacks. Uh.
Speaker 3: He just made up on his own sentiment or four
Speaker 3: months ago. It's a kind of a light brown and
Speaker 3: a light green, rather soft green and soft brown, and
Speaker 3: the real light weight. I need about six pairs way
Speaker 3: around in the evening when I come in from work,
Speaker 3: and I need about a half inch too tight in
Speaker 3: the waist.
Speaker 2: He recalled it back then that didn't wanted to want
Speaker 2: to deal with.
Speaker 3: Get him right, fat you know, I don't know. You
Speaker 3: all just guessed out of my things. So but once
Speaker 3: you have the measurements there, we'll find for you I
Speaker 3: can send you a pair. I want them a half
Speaker 3: inch larger in the waist than the where before, except
Speaker 3: I want two or three inches of stuff left back
Speaker 3: in there so I can take them up. I bury
Speaker 3: ten or fifteen pounds a month, all right, So leave
Speaker 3: me at least two and a half three inches in
Speaker 3: the back where I can let them out, or take
Speaker 3: them up and make these a half inch bigger than
Speaker 3: the waist. Make the pockets at least an inch longer. Money,
Speaker 3: my money, and my knife everything fall out now the pockets.
Speaker 3: When you sit down in the chair, the knife and
Speaker 3: your money comes out. So I need at least another
Speaker 3: inch in the pockets. Yeah. Now another thing with critch
Speaker 3: down where you hang is always a little too tight.
Speaker 3: So when you make them up, give me an inch
Speaker 3: that I can let out there, because they cut me.
Speaker 3: It's just like riding a wire fence. These are almost
Speaker 3: the best that I've had anywhere in the United States.
Speaker 3: But when I get ain't a little weight, they cut
Speaker 3: me under there. So leave me. You never do have
Speaker 3: much margin that, But see if you can't leave me
Speaker 3: about it an age from the word of zippering and
Speaker 3: around under my back to my hole. So I grit
Speaker 3: it out there. If I need to be sure he
Speaker 3: got the best zippers in them. These are good that
Speaker 3: I have and if you get those coming out, I
Speaker 3: will sure be grateful.
Speaker 1: There you go in a historical moment, actual phone call with
Speaker 1: president of the United States and cut me like I'm
Speaker 1: shitting on a wire fencer. Oh the fact.
Speaker 2: Leave me my margin. You gotta have margin.
Speaker 1: The fact that he burps right before he uses the
Speaker 1: word is my favorite part.
Speaker 5: That is that's one of my favorite pieces of amazing.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh it shows you who he was. He was from
Speaker 1: poor to hill country to his bones.
Speaker 2: That's what he was.
Speaker 4: Uh huh right, And it's probably worth the tip of
Speaker 4: the cap that he was calling the Hagar family who became,
Speaker 4: you know, one of the great clothiers of that time
Speaker 4: of history.
Speaker 6: About five inches right back to my that's the best
Speaker 6: part of not crotch, you know where money, Yeah, we
Speaker 6: know what a crotch is. The reason people use the
Speaker 6: word crotch is so they don't have to say where
Speaker 6: you're maney money has some plain talk there and if
Speaker 6: you're actually into you know, history and this sort of stuff.
Speaker 6: The Carol book about the relationship between LBJ and the
Speaker 6: Kennedy family is amazing because you just.
Speaker 2: Heard who the guy was.
Speaker 1: That's way different than the Kennedy clan, the Kennedys of Harvard. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: highennus Port Kennedy's and there, you know, golf clubs and
Speaker 1: tennis clubs and that sort of stuff. No wonder they
Speaker 1: didn't get along with when vice versa with LBJ.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, where their patrician accents and their crisp
Speaker 4: suits and the rest of it with practically no margin whether.
Speaker 2: They'reang or banged at the time from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seem in the minimum, it's like riding a
Speaker 1: rail fence.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Something my grandfather would say. Well, that's how I gained
Speaker 1: some weight back, and it.
Speaker 2: Cuts me, cuts me.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show, we
Speaker 1: got this is about the way I grill and the
Speaker 1: pictures I've tweeted out and Katie's complain about my grilling
Speaker 1: re IQ differences, which we were talking about differences different
Speaker 1: kinds of intelligence earlier in the show. Somebody texted Jack
Speaker 1: seems to be brilliant at history, but then he puts
Speaker 1: his grilling utensils on the ground.
Speaker 2: So, yes, there are different kinds of intelligence. That's a
Speaker 2: great point. Yes, the contrast shocking. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I put the spatul on the ground.
Speaker 5: And well, not just that, but then we brought When
Speaker 5: we pointed it out to you said, well where else where?
Speaker 1: Should I put them anywhere else?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 4: Yes, even on a paper towel on the ground, although
Speaker 4: that's just partial credit. Did get this note from Dan
Speaker 4: in North Carolina. I'm with you, Jack, I have zero
Speaker 4: interest in grilling, and am convinced that half the men
Speaker 4: that claim to be interested are latent junior high schooler's
Speaker 4: desperate to fit in. So, like the brave, masked intellectual
Speaker 4: walking your parade route, I say f you to those
Speaker 4: who boast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean. I don't think there's got to
Speaker 1: be a flaw in other people that liked grill. I
Speaker 1: just I just don't enjoy it, and I have no
Speaker 1: interest in learning to be better at it.
Speaker 4: And then Dan spends a tale worth telling as an aside,
Speaker 4: I have a relative by marriage.
Speaker 2: Of course, fancy himself a master griller.
Speaker 4: So the propane grill was too bourgeois, so he purchased
Speaker 4: the same charcoal grill you have, except apparently he couldn't
Speaker 4: figure out how to install the legs, so he just
Speaker 4: put it on top of a deck railing. Then he
Speaker 4: lit the fire in there, burned a hole almost completely
Speaker 4: through a plywood table, and emblazoned the leaves around the
Speaker 4: car port, which led to a fire department visit.
Speaker 2: Emblazoned. He is in quotes like that reporter bet his
Speaker 2: stakes are great, though, Yeah, the grillest and the anti grillist.
Speaker 4: Ye is that the newest fault line, the dividing line
Speaker 4: in American society.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm giving up on that manly skill, but
Speaker 1: hoping I make for it and other manly areas, like
Speaker 1: if you couldn't put the legs on that grill, you
Speaker 1: really have no ability to fix or work on anything.
Speaker 2: Holy crap. They're like, yeah, two screws in a wing nut. Yes, Katie,
Speaker 2: Ye man card is at risk.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: I just think that if you if you had a
Speaker 5: different grill, it might change your experience a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it can't be comfortable being down in that position grilling
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 2: No, it's not comfortable in that position doing anything, right.
Speaker 1: How much did you spend for that grill Jack, I
Speaker 1: honestly think it was on sale. I think it was
Speaker 1: eight dollars because it was on sale. It was like
Speaker 1: they had two left. Should you spend.
Speaker 2: Dollar a grill? A guy? Now he's lying.
Speaker 5: He stole it from the guy that lives in front
Speaker 5: of the radio station.
Speaker 2: Right, who lives in his beaten down RV.
Speaker 4: It's the mini Weber, right that sits like a foot
Speaker 4: off the ground.
Speaker 2: The top of it. It's a foot foot of maybe a
Speaker 2: foot and a half. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's designed to take with your camping or something.
Speaker 1: It's not designed to tailgate the grill you have in
Speaker 1: your backyard, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny when I've been looking for a
Speaker 1: house and some of these houses, you know, they got
Speaker 1: the built in grill with the refrigerator and just all
Speaker 1: heading a fan above it and all these differments. I think,
Speaker 1: I think this is slightly different than what I hearently have.
Speaker 1: Hanson said, he knows the place you could buy, but
Speaker 1: she used grills here you go, Well, I should do
Speaker 1: one with legs.
Speaker 2: Would be handy if I didn't have to bend over.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: That's probably enough of that. This was from the Daily
Speaker 1: Show last night. Once a week, the old host of
Speaker 1: The Daily Show, John Stewart is on there. Pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Well, he's actually funny, which is in contrast with the
Speaker 4: other hosts, certainly Trevor Noah.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: This features a word I knew, I never said and
Speaker 1: never will say. And other people think this sort of
Speaker 1: humor is funny, and so we didn't air it on
Speaker 1: the air. But I realize other people find this humorous.
Speaker 3: As I was.
Speaker 6: Explaining, though, the media has systematically failed to contest Sean.
Speaker 7: Please, you're killing me, my poor sweet naive older than
Speaker 7: I remember, John, We need this messy spectacle. Every other
Speaker 7: news story is a massive bummer. This Trump trial is
Speaker 7: like an open window and a greyhound bus full of farts.
Speaker 7: Why are you trying to close the window, John.
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to make a smell starts?
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make yourself.
Speaker 1: And hands. Our executive producer thought that was funny. I
Speaker 1: don't like that word. I don't say that word to me.
Speaker 1: That is the F word, and so I will never
Speaker 1: understand that. I don't understand it myself. But I'm appalled
Speaker 1: by that word. And I do not find there any
Speaker 1: humor in the topic.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Captain Cuckoo whatever, I'm interested in the
Speaker 4: angle of we need this story. It's a breath of
Speaker 4: fresh air. I mean, it's a is that just lefty insanity?
Speaker 1: Or I find focusing on what time he arrived, what
Speaker 1: his hair looked like, did he fall asleep? Just something
Speaker 1: that's just that as opposed to super heavy duty, wore abortion,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I guess yeah.
Speaker 4: The weaponizing of the justice system against political candidates is
Speaker 4: is light fair.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. Uh, I think I could stay awake.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty funny that that young correspondent
Speaker 1: said older than I remember John Stewart. She probably was
Speaker 1: watching him in like junior high and really into it.
Speaker 1: Now she's on the Daily Show.
Speaker 4: He's a sixties So how it is if you see
Speaker 4: somebody then see him five years later, It's like, oh.
Speaker 1: God, I had one of those the other day. I
Speaker 1: ran into somebody, thought, did did I have I aged
Speaker 1: the same amount since the last time I saw.
Speaker 2: You as you have? That can't possibly be true? Yeah, well, okay, time, I.
Speaker 1: Think I'm pretty sure I didn't take a lot of physics,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure time moves the same rate for
Speaker 1: all of us, right.
Speaker 4: Unless one finds one's self in a black hole. Yes,
Speaker 4: that is my understanding of.
Speaker 1: So if I run into somebody and they've aged a
Speaker 1: certain amount, what lead me to believe that I've aged
Speaker 1: the same amount too? I just haven't recognized him? I correct, there,
Speaker 1: sure see yourself every day. This probably doesn't happen to you,
Speaker 1: does it, Katie? You're too young for that.
Speaker 2: No, but it has. I've seen some people from high school.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh, you're aging, dreamer. Can you tell them that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: My face probably does and I am the master of
Speaker 5: saying it with my facial expressions.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately. All right, people do age a different rates, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's the biggest swing is fifteen years. They say,
Speaker 1: in what age you look once you get older, depending
Speaker 1: on genetics and lifestyle. So it's not completely true that
Speaker 1: we aged the same amount.
Speaker 4: And I'm realizing the ultimate do you want to look
Speaker 4: good now or later?
Speaker 2: Is sun exposure? Oh wow.
Speaker 1: I have a female friend who, uh, all her friends
Speaker 1: say why do you look so young? And it's all
Speaker 1: because she did not tan when she was younger like
Speaker 1: they all did, and she does look she's fifteen years
Speaker 1: younger than her contemporaries at least. Wow, So it is tough.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be pale person at the pool
Speaker 1: when you're twenty two or do you want to be
Speaker 1: looks forty at age fifty person when you're older.
Speaker 2: That's a tough oh, leather face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely find myself as I am rapidly aging.
Speaker 4: Among you got your tans too much, young woman, Then
Speaker 4: you got your tens too much forty year old woman,
Speaker 4: and you're starting to see the signs of what might
Speaker 4: be described as a catcher's mit like.
Speaker 2: Dermis uh.
Speaker 4: And then you have your sixty plus tanned too much woman,
Speaker 4: and manim birds have come home to rooms right at
Speaker 4: Hey about.
Speaker 1: A Yeah, that's a heck of a price to pay
Speaker 1: to be good in tan when you were twenty five.
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And again I don't I don't mean to be cruel.
Speaker 4: I don't measure people by their looks. But there's no
Speaker 4: better term than leathery.
Speaker 2: I remember we had a salesperson we referred to as
Speaker 2: tan guy.
Speaker 1: Well he was he was Yeah, he was super tan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was tan or was it actual tank?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: I know it was real tan because we went to
Speaker 1: a company remember there was a company barbecue once and
Speaker 1: he did the really odd thing at this company barbecue
Speaker 1: everybody stand out, where he took off his shirt and
Speaker 1: sat in a lawn chair with everybody around at the
Speaker 1: company barbecue so he could get more sons.
Speaker 2: So I guess, I guess he was tan guy.
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, work function, Yeah, but hey, sun's out,
Speaker 4: guns out and teats.
Speaker 2: Apparently exactly. Guy was in really good shape.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was not gonna waste a single opportunity
Speaker 4: to get more UFI raising.
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Speaker 1: So Katy brought us this headline earlier in the show.
Speaker 1: Now I have the details. It's really something in the
Speaker 1: headline being a woman in Brazil was arrested after she
Speaker 1: attempted to get a dead body in a wheelchair to
Speaker 1: sign for a bank loan.
Speaker 5: I was on Twitter or x or whatever the hell
Speaker 5: it's called now when this video went viral. So I
Speaker 5: saw the unedited version, because now it's been blurred all
Speaker 5: over the place. This guy was dead dead like oh
Speaker 5: not just not just like just dead, but like megadead.
Speaker 2: Oh really been dead a while? Maybe not? Can you
Speaker 2: be more precise?
Speaker 5: Not Riga mortis dead because she was able to kind
Speaker 5: of move him around, but.
Speaker 2: He was super deadok it out, So here we go.
Speaker 1: Woman in Brazil arrested Tuesday suspicion of theft by fraud
Speaker 1: and violating a corpse. You know, as I've said many times,
Speaker 1: when I'm dead, you can do whatever you want to me.
Speaker 1: Don't charge with a crime. I don't care. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any difference. I mean, you're a little weird, but
Speaker 1: you have violated me in any way.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I may get a couple of licks,
Speaker 2: you know. Some frustrations.
Speaker 1: Jack Pinata after she brought her dead uncle to a
Speaker 1: bank to sign a loan agreement. She had raised suspicion
Speaker 1: after she entered the small bank there in Rio with
Speaker 1: a man in a wheelchair who she called her uncle.
Speaker 1: Well that's not that would why would that raise suspicion?
Speaker 1: That's not weird. The woman and they give her name here,
Speaker 1: which I can't pronounce, reportably told the clerk that they
Speaker 1: were to sign off on this seventeen thousand reass loan
Speaker 1: that's all.
Speaker 2: That's h and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: In security cambridge footage which Katie has seen, the woman
Speaker 1: can be seen picking up the man's hand and repositioning
Speaker 1: his head to try to get him to sign the
Speaker 1: document in front of him.
Speaker 5: This guy's head was flopping all over the place. Oh
Speaker 5: my forward backward, mouth open. And then she finally gets
Speaker 5: irritated enough to just get a grip on the back
Speaker 5: of his neck, and she's holding him steady. With the
Speaker 5: other hand, she's trying to pick up his arm and get.
Speaker 1: It to hold the pen.
Speaker 2: It is good, good plot. And you say that didn't work.
Speaker 1: His head's gone all over the place.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I can be picking up the hand reposition.
Speaker 2: He said, uncle, are you listening? You need to sign.
Speaker 1: If you don't sign, there's no way because I can't
Speaker 1: sign for you. She can be heard saying on the audio,
Speaker 1: I would just steady your hand, all right, uncle, are
Speaker 1: you listening? You need to sign. He doesn't say anything.
Speaker 1: That's just how he is. She tells the clerk when
Speaker 1: he doesn't reply, if you're not okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: take you to the hospital.
Speaker 2: But the man's don't bother.
Speaker 4: The man's unresponsive nature and lolling head, has described me
Speaker 4: by Katie Green, caused concern among bank employees, who called
Speaker 4: local ambulance services. Dude is megade on arriving the doctor's
Speaker 4: confirmed the sixty year old man had been dead for
Speaker 4: quite some time. His body was taken directly to a morgue,
Speaker 4: and she's been arrested. Creative idea. Her lawyers are arguing, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: he was fine. He must have died in the wheelchair
Speaker 4: as I was rolling.
Speaker 1: Into the bank, because just before he signed, because we
Speaker 1: talked about this, or dried out on the sidewalk before
Speaker 1: I rolled him in, And he must have died right beforehand.
Speaker 2: And I just didn't notice, not an effing chance not.
Speaker 4: And he is, you know, he was never that energetic
Speaker 4: in life, so I didn't notice the difference.
Speaker 5: And his eyes just naturally sunk into his head like that.
Speaker 2: He always looked that, oh megadad.
Speaker 1: Preliminary preliminary friendsic analysis says he had died at least
Speaker 1: several hours before the trying and sign for the loan,
Speaker 1: if not longer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if your uncle Enrique kicks it, I mean,
Speaker 4: just between you is to decide, all right, we're going
Speaker 4: in on this loan together. He croaks just before you
Speaker 4: go to the bank. It's frustrating, it's inconvenience. I say,
Speaker 4: we stick with plan A and see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Will you come up with a workaround?
Speaker 1: That's what that is.
Speaker 2: It's a work around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you try not to let his head flop all
Speaker 1: over and you lift his hand up.
Speaker 4: There as big a hit as Weekend at Bernie's was,
Speaker 4: it's amazing to me that dragging a corpse around comedy
Speaker 4: didn't become a more important genre.
Speaker 1: Right there's only one movie to refer to, that one.
Speaker 1: They're in like a whole bunch of them, I mean
Speaker 1: American Pie. He spawned dozens of imitators.
Speaker 5: For instance, rightly, there was a few years ago where
Speaker 5: the Weekend at Bernie's Funeral went viral?
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that. I don't know that, I
Speaker 2: do the headline.
Speaker 1: There were like a series of funerals.
Speaker 5: I think BuzzFeed did like an article about it and
Speaker 5: compiled a list of people that, instead of just having
Speaker 5: like a regular visitation or whatever, had themselves like dressed
Speaker 5: and propped up with like cigarettes put in their hands.
Speaker 1: And they love that and the families.
Speaker 5: Were coming up and like taking pictures with them, And
Speaker 5: there was another one that was a weightlifter and they
Speaker 5: actually attached their hands to like a deadlift.
Speaker 1: Oh you see. It depends on the situation though, clearly,
Speaker 1: because like my friends would think it was fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: but my kids might not.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It depends on the relationship with who it is. So
Speaker 2: I'm picturing all right.
Speaker 4: I mean if you had me sitting in a chair
Speaker 4: with my telecaster in my lap, right, you know that's
Speaker 4: not bad.
Speaker 2: Or maybe like some bass lying down the couch.
Speaker 4: With a half empty Scotch next to me, like I
Speaker 4: was watching a golf tournament and fell asleep my weight
Speaker 4: My wife would appreciate that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, I guess it depends, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see that, yeah my own. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of caveats to the whole idea, I suppose.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The weightlifting one got my attention though, because the way
Speaker 5: that they have her her propped up and then they
Speaker 5: have a bench press over her face like she's about
Speaker 5: to just do a big old lift.
Speaker 4: I can't decide if this idea is is more charming
Speaker 4: or horrifying.
Speaker 2: I keep going back and forth. Right, I agree, Is.
Speaker 1: It like like you want to see him more like
Speaker 1: like he lived.
Speaker 2: Or I guess that could be charming yes, or it's horrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know.
Speaker 4: One thing that I'm in favor of is like for
Speaker 4: an obituary or a memorial service or something like that.
Speaker 4: I don't like it when they have like the most
Speaker 4: recent picture when the person is ancient, because as anybody
Speaker 4: past the age of fifty especially can tell you in
Speaker 4: your heart your soul, who you are is your young
Speaker 4: self and you just have aches and pains and more
Speaker 4: memories and a little more wisdom and that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But the old dude is kind of a stranger, Like
Speaker 4: how the hell did that happen? So I just when
Speaker 4: they were youngest, vital, most vital, energetic, when they were
Speaker 4: forming who they are.
Speaker 2: Give me that picture. Yeah. New York Times is good
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 1: They use you and your prime picture for all their
Speaker 1: obituaries of famous people like I see them every Sunday
Speaker 1: in the New York Times book Review whatever author died,
Speaker 1: and they have their when they were you know, sexy
Speaker 1: woman or a cool young guy or whatever or whatever
Speaker 1: they were that had so much to do with the
Speaker 1: things you wrote, not like just an old person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the time of their life they look back on fondly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what they probably became famous for. And now we're
Speaker 1: not talking just about famous people, but like in yeah,
Speaker 1: and just for everybody.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: Now, I've kind of been a Doey Dip from age
Speaker 4: twelve through the grave, so it'd be easier for me.
Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, I was gonna say, what what point
Speaker 1: do I get to choose ahead of time?
Speaker 2: What point? Because like you know, we'll pick him a
Speaker 2: when was he young and vital?
Speaker 1: High school?
Speaker 2: Here's a good high school picture. No, young but not vital.
Speaker 5: Let's keep looking at I'm writing down my new favorite slam,
Speaker 5: A doe dip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. You're right a Doey dip. Can't
Speaker 2: you all right?
Speaker 1: For my funeral, I'm gonna do radio stuff. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have open casket with me sitting up.
Speaker 6: With headphones on my head, holding up three fingers exactly
Speaker 6: countless down and a lot of Jack and Joe.
Speaker 2: They're screaming at you.
Speaker 1: And then oh, oh hey, hey, then you can donate
Speaker 1: money to pay any FCC fines.
Speaker 2: So we did.
Speaker 1: We would say, I don't know why we're assuming we
Speaker 1: are going to oulive you, because I don't think we are.
Speaker 2: We would be.
Speaker 1: There, they say, Just where's the clip, Michael.
Speaker 2: Just for old time's sake, that would be great. No
Speaker 2: clip forty two? Forty two? Oh, that's Righty's past. God
Speaker 2: rest is sold.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
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