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Speaker 1: At least is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson not here today is taking care of some personal business,

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Speaker 2: but he will be back tomorrow. So we got the

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Speaker 2: jam Peck's Show today for you. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: start off with TJ Watt today and Watt spoke to

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Speaker 2: the media earlier this week, and I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: say this about Watt. People. I've seen this out there

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Speaker 2: that Watt had a disappointing season or people thinking that

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Speaker 2: he didn't do his part this year. Finished with sixty

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Speaker 2: one tackles, eleven and a half sacks, led to league

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Speaker 2: with six forced fumbles, had nineteen tackles for the lost

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Speaker 2: twenty seven quarterback hits and two fumble recoveries. For most people,

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Speaker 2: that is are rear year. And I understand what has

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Speaker 2: raised the bar for on expectations for what we expect

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Speaker 2: out of him. But understand this. They started counting the

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Speaker 2: sack as an official statistic in nineteen eighty two. In

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Speaker 2: Watt's Wat's eleven and a half sacks this season that

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Speaker 2: would have led the Steelers in sacks in twenty six

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Speaker 2: of those seasons since nineteen eighty two, only seven players

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Speaker 2: in team history have had more sacks in a season

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Speaker 2: than what what had in twenty twenty four seven. So

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Speaker 2: a little perspective here, folks. So I wanted to let

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Speaker 2: you guys know that, and let's play back what TJ

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Speaker 2: Watt had to say earlier this week when when he

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Speaker 2: spoke to the media, TJ.

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Speaker 3: What needs to change you guys to worry if you

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Speaker 3: want to be I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We need to win football game, so in you A

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Speaker 4: find ways to stop the run and play effective defense and.

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Speaker 3: Go from there.

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Speaker 4: But I don't have all the answers as we sit

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Speaker 4: here right now as to what needs to change.

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Speaker 2: TEA doesn't feel like Groundhog Bay a little bit for you, specifically, just.

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Speaker 3: Because it's tough.

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Speaker 4: We get sit here same times last year, the same

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Speaker 4: time as I've been in this scrum and same questions,

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Speaker 4: and I have the same answers.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm very frustrated with how things ended. And that's

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Speaker 4: not just with the last game. That's with the last

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Speaker 4: month of football, and it's it's a collection of things,

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Speaker 4: and it starts with myself and I need to play better.

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Speaker 4: We need to play better. It's there's not one thing

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Speaker 4: that needs to be fixed here. There's there's a lot

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Speaker 4: to play better in bigger moments, and it'll be a

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Speaker 4: long offseason to have to sit with that.

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Speaker 6: As a team.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you guys are closer to where

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Speaker 3: you want to be at this point than you were

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Speaker 3: a year ago. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I I definitely have a lost confidence in

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have the pieces.

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Speaker 4: It's what I said a week ago going into the

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Speaker 4: game doesn't change just because of the loss. I still

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Speaker 4: and we have a lot of capable men here. We

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Speaker 4: have capable schemes and everything, and it just comes down

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Speaker 4: that's been the part that's been very frustrating, because I

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Speaker 4: feel like we've put together some good weeks of practice

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Speaker 4: Mike t always says, it's a results based business and

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Speaker 4: if you're not getting the results, then you're not doing

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Speaker 4: the right thing and things need to change.

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Speaker 6: I know you had a strip sack and a fangals

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Speaker 6: and why do you think you weren't as productive as

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Speaker 4: I just need to find ways to make more plays. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: You mentioned, you know, potentially moving around more is staying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I move around from time to time,

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Speaker 4: But at this point in my career, I want to

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Speaker 4: I want to be an impact player. I don't want

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't a good enough year for myself when

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Speaker 2: That, If given the opportunity, do you want to You've

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Speaker 2: given the opportunity, do you want to extend your contract

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Speaker 4: I want to be you guys know that I don't

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Speaker 4: to be part of the solution. I've put so much

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Speaker 4: I want to help Cam Heyward get to where we

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Speaker 3: I want to be a part of the solution. I

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Speaker 4: I love the people here and that goes beyond just

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Speaker 4: the coaches. It's it's it's the fan base, it's the people,

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Speaker 4: not not leave here and go somewhere else. That's not

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought about it yet.

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Speaker 5: Did you were used to moving around?

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Speaker 7: You talked about you know, you talked about you guys

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Speaker 7: You guys did do that more like against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Alex got healthy.

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Speaker 4: And part of it is Alex is a great rusher

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Speaker 4: If that makes sense. And it's just things where if

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Speaker 3: Able to do that, and I will.

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Speaker 7: This defense has been together the four pieces for a while.

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Speaker 7: You've had similar results against high end, elite quarterbacks. Do

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Speaker 3: So much to defense.

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Speaker 4: And obviously you need to be able to score points,

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Speaker 3: War, and we haven't had that. We've allowed these long.

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Speaker 3: UH. And that's unacceptable, spending.

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Speaker 4: Way too much time on the football field and not

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Speaker 5: Why does Mike t remain the the guy that seem

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Speaker 4: I mean Hard Knocks doesn't even show I haven't watched it,

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Speaker 4: We're working hard. We just need to get it right.

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Speaker 4: And I say that every year. I think it's more

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Speaker 5: Did you health coupled as it emotionally?

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Speaker 3: Knowing that these situations can't affect change in the locker

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Speaker 4: Group never looks the same, and that's a tough, tough

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Speaker 3: But it's never going to be the same.

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Speaker 4: And that's the tough part about it.

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Speaker 3: But we have to continue to move on over.

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Speaker 2: Bit and that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: I hear a lot of this stuff that was TJ.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I constantly hear about

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Speaker 2: few years. They've done things again. This was my thirty

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Speaker 2: third season covering the Steelers this year, and I've done

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Speaker 2: that from all different angles. And to say that the

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago is not correct at all. They traded

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Speaker 2: But that was something that they didn't normally do. TJ.

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Speaker 2: But you got to try. And it's not like they're

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. Matt Williamson not here today. He

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: Rating and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly and I'm joined

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Speaker 2: Rob King. How you doing, Kinger, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 5: How you doing? Dale?

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Speaker 2: I am hanging in there. You know, the weather has

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Speaker 6: It is, you know, and I'm trying to I think

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Speaker 6: How do you go from ten to three and averaging

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, King, and you know,

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Speaker 5: necessarily Russell Wilson in his prime.

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Speaker 6: But you know that team average twenty eight points a

440
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 6: game in Russell's first seven starts.

441
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Speaker 2: And what happened, had wins against had wins against teams

442
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: that are still standing in the playoffs. They beat Washington

443
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: in Washington, they beat the Ravens. We can't just throw

444
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: that all away and say that didn't happen just because

445
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: of the way you didn't like the way the season ended.

446
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: Those things happened. Those are part of the story as well.

447
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 6: Yeah it is, and it's what makes the end of

448
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 6: the season a bit mystifying to me. I don't know

449
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 6: what happened, I don't know why it happened the way

450
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 6: it did, you know, uh, and there were I think

451
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 6: there were.

452
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Speaker 5: Reasons along the way. You had injuries.

453
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Speaker 6: But you think about just even Baltimore, Right, you lost

454
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Speaker 6: in Baltimore in a game you were right in it.

455
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 6: You never you didn't have George Pickens, you didn't have

456
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 6: Deshaun Elliott, Dante Jackson went out in that game. You

457
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 6: were missing some key players. Well, they were all back

458
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 6: for the playoffs. I did not see what we saw

459
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Speaker 6: Saturday night in Baltimore. You know, maybe I should have

460
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 6: seen it coming. The line was ten. I thought the

461
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Speaker 6: line was absolutely wrong. I guess I should have seen

462
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Speaker 6: it coming because that's what happened. But I gotta tell you, Yale,

463
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 6: I just didn't see that coming.

464
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Speaker 5: I didn't think it was going to go that way.

465
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Speaker 2: No, nor did I. You know, I thought it would

466
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: be as as you said, a typical Steelers Ravens games.

467
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: I've seen every single one of them in person over

468
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: the years, and so that's, you know, that's what I

469
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: expected the raven If you watch Hard Knocks, that's what

470
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: the Ravens expected. They expected, and you know, you heard

471
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh even you know, hey, this is a good

472
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: football team that we're playing here, we got to be

473
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: ready to go. This is you know, this is the

474
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, and for whatever reason that didn't play out.

475
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: Now you could look at that and say, hey, Lamar

476
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Speaker 2: Jackson and and Derrick Henry they were just that much better.

477
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Speaker 3: Uh.

478
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Speaker 2: They they were on top of their game. They were

479
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: ready to go, and and they were the better players.

480
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Speaker 2: And I understand that they were on that particular night,

481
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: you know, but to your point, you know, things just

482
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: didn't go right. You know, if you if you look

483
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: at you break down each one of those games down

484
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: the stretch. To your point, I mean, if George Pickens

485
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Speaker 2: doesn't have the worst game of his career against Cincinnati Bengals,

486
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: they win that football game, right, he dropped that thirty

487
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: eight yard pass down the sideline that would have put

488
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: them at least in field goal range in third quarter.

489
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: That's a pass he catches ninety nine times out of

490
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Speaker 2: one hundred. The defensive back didn't bring the.

491
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Speaker 6: First multi the first multi drop game of his career. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 6: I mean, he is a sure handed guy, George Pickens.

493
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Speaker 6: You know, I know he's become a bit of a

494
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 6: lightning rod. But we saw in Baltimore that passed down

495
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 6: the sideline. He can do things that other guys just

496
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 6: they can't even dream of doing, you know, I mean

497
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 6: he made that look easy. That played down the sideline

498
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 6: was he slowed slightly, caught the ball and made two

499
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Speaker 6: guys basically collide. I mean, you know, but you're right,

500
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Speaker 6: I mean there were moments. There were moments Dale in

501
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 6: every game. And who knows whether if you to stem

502
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Speaker 6: the tide, if you'd have beaten Cincinnati, would you had

503
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 6: a different feeling.

504
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Speaker 5: Going into that game?

505
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Speaker 6: And I have to think that, you know, these are

506
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 6: human beings, and the emotion I think probably played part

507
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 6: of it, that feeling that it's rolling downhill in there

508
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 6: and it's hard to stop that. I don't know, I'm

509
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 6: just again, I'm surmising maybe the team would scoff at

510
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 6: that analysis, but it felt like that was at least

511
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 6: part of it to me.

512
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was reports out there that there was a

513
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: sense of relief in that locker room they after they

514
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: lost that game, and I'm like, I don't know what

515
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: locker room that report came out. It wasn't the locker

516
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: room I was in, and it certainly wasn't the you know,

517
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: the plane ride home or those guys were not happy

518
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: about that. That was a long bus ride back out

519
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: to the airport. Nobody in that locker room was happy

520
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: with how the the last month of the season went.

521
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Speaker 6: I can't believe anybody would ever say that. I can't

522
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: believe any player would say I'm relieved to go home

523
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 6: and exit the playoffs in the first round.

524
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Speaker 5: They're just not wired that way. They're not built that way.

525
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 6: And then you know, the other thing is I made

526
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: the comment earlier about the team being closer, and you know,

527
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 6: you look at this offseason, for example, and you add

528
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 6: you know, Peyton Wilson to the lineback and corps, you

529
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 6: add Patrick Queen, you add to Shaun Elliott at the

530
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 6: safety position. I mean, these guys are are guys that

531
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Speaker 6: are coming back and joining a team in our bet.

532
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 6: Our buddy Matt Williamson says that the front five for

533
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 6: the Steelers is the best defensive line in football considered.

534
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: He's not the only one that says if you look

535
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: at Pro Football Focus that they're the number one ranked

536
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: front front in the league.

537
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Speaker 6: Right, and then look at the linebackers and Patrick Queen

538
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 6: getting more comfortable.

539
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: You look at the offensive line.

540
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 6: Look, the offensive line had a lot of injuries, but

541
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Speaker 6: you know, hopefully they'll be healthy coming back. At Faltano

542
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 6: Fatana is going to be starting at right tackle. People

543
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 6: can't forget that. And he missed the season, and so look,

544
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 6: and other teams have injuries, and the Bengals were decimated

545
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 6: by injuries. But the Bengals also didn't make the playoffs,

546
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: so you know, the students had their injuries back. I'm

547
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 6: just looking at next year coming back, and I think there,

548
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: you know, Darnell Washington proved that he can be a

549
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 6: nice complimentary piece and a big blocking piece in that offense.

550
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: And Calvin Austin can be a player. You probably need

551
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 6: to add another receiver. You have all five offensive alignemen

552
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: under contract for the for the upcoming season. You would

553
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 6: expect that young group to take a step forward. You

554
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 6: got a couple of decisions to make the quarterback position.

555
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 6: It's a very rich running back draft. Can you add

556
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 6: a player there? So I think this years have filled

557
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 6: a lot of holes in the last couple of years. Now, ultimately,

558
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 6: do you need a young star quarterback to make a

559
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 6: deep run in the playoffs?

560
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: Maybe you do. I don't know, but I do know,

561
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: and maybe maybe you know.

562
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 6: Year two of a Russell Wilson and that offense is

563
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 6: going to be better, or maybe they really like the

564
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 6: way that that you know, the number two quarterback fields

565
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 6: came along sort of behind the scenes after he got

566
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 6: six game starting with a four and two record. I

567
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 6: think there's a lot of reasons to be uh, to

568
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 6: be bullish about this roster and the direction it's heading in.

569
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: It's just hard to feel that way.

570
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 6: And if you told me, if you told me at

571
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 6: ten and three, I would have said they're gonna win

572
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 6: a round to the playoffs, and in that second round

573
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 6: when they face the Mahomes or an Allen as inevitably

574
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 6: gonna happen, it's gonna be a heck of a ball game.

575
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 6: And the fact that they didn't get there, you know,

576
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 6: does that mean we re evaluate our analysis from earlier.

577
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: Does it mean we're wrong?

578
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 6: I mean that's what the next few months are gonna

579
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: are going to tell us what the team thinks about that.

580
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 6: And it's what makes the off season so fascinating, even

581
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 6: if it gets here too soon.

582
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know that to choose your

583
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: path books, you know, maybe you should do one of

584
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: those Rob, you could choose your path and and and

585
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: go that way. Uh, for those of you that don't know,

586
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: Rob is a published author, get that.

587
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: And his path goes through his path goes through the

588
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: door in the go.

589
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: But the Steelers to me, they chose their path last

590
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: offseason that they were going to take here. And you know,

591
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: to your point, short of acquiring a a a young

592
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, a young proven fan you know a guy,

593
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: or getting one in the draft, you know the road

594
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: to doing that. I mean, there are only so many

595
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: ways to do it, and most of them involve luck

596
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: and where you draft at and they're not going to

597
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: be high enough to get one of the guys. And

598
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: this isn't a great draft for those guys anyways, you know,

599
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: So if you do get one, it's going to be

600
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, do you take one in the second or

601
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: third round and he turns into something that happens. I

602
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: understand that Russell Wilson was. It was a third round

603
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: draft pick. You know, it happens, but you can't count

604
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: on it, you know, you can't. You can't, So you

605
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: have to you have to make a decision now, and

606
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: it's probably you know that decision is probably staying on

607
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: the same path that you're on now and continuing to

608
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: take bites out of the apple and try to get

609
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: better and try to make your team better around whatever

610
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: player it is you decide to go with.

611
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it is bites out of the apple.

612
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: You're right, And I do think that, you know, do

613
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: you get such a strong identity in a certain way

614
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 6: that you know, like, look, man.

615
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Speaker 5: The Ravens.

616
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 6: I know, I know the Ravens can throw the ball,

617
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 6: but the way the random all the other night, that

618
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 6: was unstoppable, right, I.

619
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Speaker 5: Mean, can you get to that point? I don't know.

620
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 6: The stewers tried to uh, you know, the yards per

621
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 6: carry wasn't what you'd want it to be, but the

622
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 6: they kept they kept nailing away at it, and they

623
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: had a solid running attack.

624
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Speaker 5: It is going to be interesting to see where they go.

625
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 6: And to your point, I mean, you know, uh, the

626
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 6: only you know obviously, I do a lot of baseball

627
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 6: stuff too, and teams draft pitching. The Pirates drafted a

628
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 6: lot of pitching over the years. You've got to have it,

629
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 6: you know, you're not winning without it.

630
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: That's the ball in his hands every play.

631
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Paul Skins. Look, Paul Skins is pretty obvious.

632
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: But you know, you go out and you pay over slot,

633
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 6: and you go out and get above a chandler, you know,

634
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 6: without having to use that very.

635
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: Top pick and he pans out and it's great.

636
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 6: Well, there's also for every bubb a Chandler, there's probably

637
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 6: eight or nine guys you drafted didn't pan out right,

638
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 6: who got hurt or never made it above a ball.

639
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 5: And so you know, but in football, yeah.

640
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Mark Pell, that's right, Markpell should say.

641
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Markepell.

642
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, So for football you have to be so judicious

643
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: for that because you only get seven rounds of picks.

644
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 6: You know, you don't get twenty picks he used to

645
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 6: be forty picks or fifty picks.

646
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: In baseball you only get seven rounds.

647
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 6: And so you know, if you use a third rounder

648
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 6: on a guy and he doesn't pan out, and that

649
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 6: third rounder could have been, uh, you know, Mason McCormick

650
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 6: or Peyton Wilson or guy even got later than that

651
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 6: this year, that's that's a tough one to swallow if

652
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 6: you're not right on that, and yet you can't win

653
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 6: without it.

654
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: So I mean, you know, think about you know, you

655
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: just look at the look.

656
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: At the history of Steelers football from from the Chuckle

657
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Speaker 6: years on right even with Chuck Nole, it wasn't until

658
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Speaker 6: he put Terry bradsch Off firmly in the driver's seat

659
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Speaker 6: that they won their first Super Bowl, and they won

660
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Speaker 6: three more Super Bowls, and then he started to fade

661
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Speaker 6: and he started to get injuries and they didn't win

662
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Speaker 6: any more Super Bowls until they were able to pick

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Speaker 6: was it twelfth?

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Speaker 5: They got Ben Robins in a quarterback rich draft?

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Speaker 2: What's that eleventh?

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Speaker 5: Eleventh? Yeah, yeah, eleventh.

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Speaker 6: Uh So you get a rare bad year that coincides

668
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Speaker 6: with a quarterback rich draft and you happen to get,

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Speaker 6: you know, a Hall of Famer eleventh overall. So that's

670
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Speaker 6: and then you win, you know, you win a couple

671
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Speaker 6: more Super Bowls. That's that's kind of the way the

672
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 6: NFL goes. You have to have much like you have

673
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 6: to have pitching in baseball, you have to have quarterback play.

674
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 6: But you can also you can win in baseball without

675
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: having the best pitching staff. You have to be really

676
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 6: good everywhere else, and that pitching better still be pretty good.

677
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Speaker 6: And I think the Steers could get pretty good quarterback

678
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 6: play out of what they have and then, like you said,

679
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 6: keep taking whites out of the apple again. I still

680
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 6: really feel like, and this is tough to say, I

681
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 6: understand that tough to hear. I do think they've gotten

682
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: closer over the last couple of offseasons just by you know,

683
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Speaker 6: some of the guys that I named some of the draft.

684
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Speaker 6: I think they've had two very good drafts, and I

685
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 6: think they've had productive forays into free agency.

686
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Speaker 5: And I think they're going to do that again.

687
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 6: They've got a lot of cap space, and you know,

688
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 6: teams don't let franchise quarterbacks out of their building very often.

689
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Speaker 6: You're probably not going to get a franchise quarterback in

690
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Speaker 6: free agency, so you have to find other ways to

691
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 6: go about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are other ways to do that. I mean,

693
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Speaker 2: if you look at Detroit, you look at Philadelphia, don't

694
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Speaker 2: think anybody would look at Jared Goff or Jalen Hurts

695
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, they're they're up there with Lamar Jackson

696
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: and they're up there with with Josh Allen. Now, some

697
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: of the stats may be up there with some of

698
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: those guys because they've built the team around those players,

699
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: and you know, they're not. They're not, you know, in

700
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Speaker 2: the top five or six or seven eight quarterbacks in

701
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: the league. But you can win with those guys if

702
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: you have a solid roster.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

704
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 6: And I and I think, and I think going back

705
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 6: to that ten and three start and going back to

706
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: those first seven games with Russell Wilson, you know you could,

707
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 6: I think you'd you'd put him in that same conversation, Hey,

708
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 6: here's a guy that can He's won, he's won a

709
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 6: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: There's only six guys I think in football they can

711
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: say that.

712
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them was Joe fla.

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Speaker 6: Starting quarterback, right and one of them, Joe Flacco, is

714
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 6: not starting anymore.

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Speaker 5: It is a rare feat to be.

716
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Speaker 6: Able to do that and to be able to accomplish that,

717
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 6: and Russell Wilson was able to do that.

718
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: And again.

719
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Speaker 6: By in no way, shape or form my saying, well,

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Speaker 6: if the Steelers lost the last four games of the

721
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 6: playoff game because of Russell Wilson, I'm not saying that.

722
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 6: I'm just saying we saw evidence over seven games that

723
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 6: the offense could be a lot more than it's been

724
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 6: since Ben Roethlisberger.

725
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: Had his elbow surgery.

726
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, it's an offense that was capable

727
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: of more, and I think again, they're going to add

728
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 6: more pieces, and then they're going to have to figure

729
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 6: out what happened over those last four weeks, because like

730
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Speaker 6: I said before, I didn't see it coming and I

731
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 6: still don't know why it happened. And I think this

732
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 6: year there's I didn't think that there was really anything

733
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 6: fluky about this year. There's ten and three start, but

734
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 6: I do think that that oh to four finished surprised me,

735
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: especially the way it happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Our guest is Rob King, of

737
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: course the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. King are knowing

738
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: that how do you proceed with this team? I'm the

739
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: I'm of the thought that if you're gonna add an

740
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: explosive playmaker to this offense, I think you go to

741
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: the veteran route in that because I don't know that.

742
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean for every wide receiver, young wide receiver that

743
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: goes out there in their first year and lights it up,

744
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: I can name two that that don't. And so this

745
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: is a team that needs an immediate jump start here

746
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: as another offensive playmaker, I think you go the free

747
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: agent route and get one yeah.

748
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Speaker 5: I think it'll be. It'll be very interesting.

749
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 6: And I'm sure they're doing their you know, draft simulations

750
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 6: and who's going to be there and what positions. I mean,

751
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 6: it's supposed to be a very good cornerback draft, a

752
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 6: very good running back draft. What do you perceive as

753
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 6: your biggest needs? And you know, one of the things

754
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 6: that the series have always done a great job of,

755
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 6: and going back to Kevin Colberg, is at least putting

756
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 6: you know, plausible solutions in place with the notion that

757
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 6: you can replace those guys if you find.

758
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: A better guy in the draft.

759
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, draft him.

760
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 6: And now all of a sudden you got good depth,

761
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 6: right right, taking a position of weakness and made it

762
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 6: a position of strength because you have a plausible starter

763
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 6: behind a high draft pick. So you know, again, it'll

764
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 6: be interesting to see, uh you know, do you uh

765
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 6: do you go all.

766
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 5: In on defense? Do you say, hey, we're pretty close.

767
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: To being a dominant defense And you know, again, these

768
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 6: are conversations that, you know, are do they feel limited schematically?

769
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: They say, well, you know a lot was made of.

770
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Speaker 6: Well they didn't blitz very much and they played you know,

771
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 6: kind of an umbrella type of of you know, keep

772
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 6: it underneath you kind of coverage.

773
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Speaker 5: And that's why the sack totals were down.

774
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: Well, do you need a player or two to unleash

775
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 6: that defense and and maximize your talent? There is that

776
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 6: the way you're going to go what's available in free agency,

777
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: you know, beyond the top perceive too. If they're too pricey,

778
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 6: if they're out of your price range and they move on,

779
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: you know, maybe you're gonna need to get that now.

780
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 6: Maybe you pivot and you get a you know, a corner,

781
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 6: or you get a running back or something like that.

782
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Speaker 5: So I mean, I think the positions, you know, is

783
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: defensive line of luxury right now?

784
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 6: Or do you see a guy and you think, wow,

785
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 6: this is a can't miss player. Uh, you know, And

786
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: I think that's one of the things that traditionally dale

787
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: and this is a part of a larger conversation. Perhaps

788
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: the teams have always done a great job of finding

789
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 6: great players. So you know, for years, nobody put a

790
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: lot of emphasis on the center position. So just really

791
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 6: you can go out and get pouncy. Everybody wants to tackle.

792
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 6: So guess what, you draft a castro right, and those

793
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 6: great players will make other players around and better. Great

794
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: players everywhere in the roster have a trickle down effect.

795
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 6: Excuse me, it may not be in the traditional way. Hey,

796
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: let's get that left tackle to lock down the outside linebacker. Okay, Well,

797
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: what if we get a guard that can decimate the

798
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 6: other team's tackle and we can help that out that

799
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 6: offense tackle.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, another way to go about it.

801
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 6: But great players always make a team better, and so

802
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 6: I think that that's something they've always done a great

803
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: job at and I think they'll continue to do a

804
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 6: great to do a great job with that. Maybe it's

805
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 6: not quite as traditional as you think. Hey, we're going

806
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 6: to fill a hole in a traditional fashion. Maybe they

807
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: go about it in a slightly different way.

808
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, King here. Well, i've held you long enough here.

809
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: I've held you so long you're losing your voice. I

810
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: can't have you do that. I mean, you're the voice

811
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: of the Steelers. But I appreciate your time here, and

812
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: you'd be safe out there, my friend, and well enjoy

813
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: shoveling snow.

814
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, FDL. I appreciate it. I'm on my way,

815
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 5: my friend. Thanks, we'll talk to you soon.

816
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Speaker 2: Our guest has been Rob King, the voice of the

817
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm Dale Lolly. No Matt Williamson today, he

818
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: is out and about, but I will be back finish

819
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: up hour number one right after this.

820
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Speaker 1: At least is the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

821
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

822
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

823
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is well

824
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: not here today. How about that? Matt Williamson not here

825
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: today and I'm flying solo here today. So Arthur Smith

826
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: in the last two days has completed the interviews for

827
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Speaker 2: the head coaching jobs in Chicago and then today also

828
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: with the New York Jets. The Steelers offensive coordinator is

829
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: again looked upon favorably in the NFL and NFL circles.

830
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: So you know, we'll see if how that all shakes out.

831
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: But that's that's one of the things that happens here

832
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: at the end of seasons, guys. Interview elsewhere, you know,

833
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlan sitting down with Omar Kahn and Art Ernie

834
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: the second this week and they're discussing potential coaching changes

835
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: and those kinds of things. But that all takes place,

836
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, over the next couple of weeks here, I

837
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: know people were asking, Hey, what are you gonna when

838
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: are you gonna start talking about the coaching staff, And

839
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: to be quite frank and I thought Matt has made

840
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: good points about this over the years. Understanding exactly what

841
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: an assistant coach does. Everybody gets to see the tangible

842
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: results of the offensive coordinator, of the defensive coordinator, and

843
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: the special teams coordinator, because those are the overall units,

844
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: and you can judge j ok based on how those

845
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: units do to some degree, how those those coaches are performing.

846
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: But in terms of you know, understanding, well, how's the

847
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: secondary coach performing, or how is the you know, linebackers

848
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: coach performing or the tight ends coach, you'd just be

849
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: guessing because unless you're in those meetings, unless you're in

850
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: the building and understanding and seeing how those guys interact

851
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: with their group and develop the game plan and things

852
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: like that, you just don't know. You just don't, So

853
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: I I really don't like to appine much on on

854
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: those kind of things. The Steelers also had a director

855
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: Player personnel or pro personnel. Sheldon White has interviewed for

856
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: the GM job in with the Raiders, I should say

857
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: and That would be interesting because you know, if the

858
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Raiders were to hire Sheldon White, the Steeler would get

859
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: a third round compensatory pick back in return for that.

860
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: So that's one to keep an eye on here. And

861
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: Sheldon's a good guy does does a good job of

862
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: evaluating the professional talent and has been a GM in

863
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: a past with the with the Detroit Lions as an interim,

864
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe he gets that opportunity again here

865
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: and if he does good for him, it also would

866
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: happen to be good for the Steelers. One other thing

867
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Speaker 2: that I wanted to touch on here before we get

868
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: done with our number one. I read a headline last

869
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: night on ESPN when the Ravens re signed Deontay Johnson

870
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: and they're hoping to get a comp pick back for him.

871
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: On what planet would that be? Because for the Ravens

872
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Speaker 2: to get a compensatory pick in return for Deontay Johnson

873
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: for losing Deontay Johnson at the end of this season,

874
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson would have to get a pretty sizable free

875
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: agent deal. The dude's been on four different teams in

876
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: the last ten months and he's now on his fifth

877
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: team if you want to count the Ravens twice, five

878
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: teams in ten months that he has been a part of.

879
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you right now, Deontay Johnson is

880
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: not going to get a deal that's going to warrant

881
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: a compensatory pick. That would mean that the Ravens signed

882
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: absolutely nobody in the offseason, or Deontay Johnson went out

883
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: for his new team, whoever that might be, whatever team

884
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: is desperate enough to sign him, and goes out and

885
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: catches eighty passes for twelve hundred yards or something like that,

886
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: he has a monster year and outplays his contract. That's

887
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: the only way that the Ravens will get any kind

888
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: of compensatory pick for Johnson, and that would mean they

889
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: didn't sign anybody in free agency, and that's not realistic.

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00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson's probably looking a get, you know, if he's fortunate,

891
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: a four million dollar deal or something in that range,

892
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: maybe five tops in free agency next year. And that's

893
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: if he's fortunate. He's been through four different teams in

894
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: the last ten months. He quit on the Ravens a

895
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: month ago, which is why they released them. They told

896
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: him to stay away from the facility. They were so

897
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: angry with him. They cut him, and that's the only

898
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: reason that they sign him back. They had nothing to

899
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: lose by doing that. He's not going to play for them.

900
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 2: He can't play for them by league rules until after

901
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: the He's not even a member of the Ravens right now.

902
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: They picked up the contract and said, Okay, we're going

903
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: to pay you and hope we get a compensatory pickback.

904
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: Hope does not mean you're going to get a compensatory pickback.

905
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: It just means there's a possibility, but it doesn't mean

906
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: that they're going to get one. So people need to

907
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: understand that as well. The Ravens are not playing chess

908
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: with this. They're hoping and they know the situation. They

909
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: dealt with it before. They're the ones that told him

910
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: to stay away from the facility and then cut him

911
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: a week later. You know, so I understand that, Oh,

912
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: look look at what the Ravens did. It probably won't

913
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: work out for them. Let's just say that anyways, that's

914
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Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

915
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Speaker 2: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: with our number two right after this