Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network and partnership with my guys over
Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, y'all you already know what it is. Back
Speaker 1: with another exclusive. And like I told you, you see
Speaker 1: many people sitting at this table, but not everybody is
Speaker 1: like everybody. And this man to the left, for me,
Speaker 1: is not only my brother, but he's definitely a Brooklyn Slid,
Speaker 1: one of the guys I respect from the beginning, ever
Speaker 1: since I met him. There's nothing but love between us.
Speaker 1: And I watched them tell me I'm gonna get in
Speaker 1: this bitch and I'm gonna make my mark. And you
Speaker 1: did that, my jeekes. That's welcome. Heto to the building.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Brooklyn in the building? What's up?
Speaker 1: My brother? What's the same grind? Different time? Man? Hey, shit,
Speaker 1: He'll see you shine and still head before you my brother.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: You probably don't even remember the first time I met you.
Speaker 1: I do remember you remember it was in the love
Speaker 1: We was here, it was in Brooklyn. It was it
Speaker 1: was off a rockaway. Yeah, Yo, what of the grammiest
Speaker 1: clubs ever. I remember I'm sitting in the dressing room
Speaker 1: and rest the piece shout out to the homie from
Speaker 1: Usie Billy's Shoe Shine as we walked in with and
Speaker 1: she was like, Yo, I want you to meet somebody.
Speaker 1: Bleak This nigga's nice man from Brilliant just came home.
Speaker 1: Trust me. Got that ship and that's how I first
Speaker 1: met you. Remember that night the form Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: forget that. That ship was crazy and my and they
Speaker 1: let them rockets off when we left Louis. It was
Speaker 1: a rough That was a rough spot. I forgot the
Speaker 1: name of that spie too. That was like Rockaway Parkway,
Speaker 1: Rockaway Ae Trenches. It was Trenches though it was it
Speaker 1: was definitely her. It was big m you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely remember that man. Yeah, man, And from that
Speaker 1: day I respect because you told me that day you
Speaker 1: like bleak Man. You know, I just came home. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do my thing in the game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my thing. Say Billy was talking highly of something
Speaker 1: there is just saying, uh that come home energy is
Speaker 1: unlike anything I believe. And Shoe Shine made rest in peace. Man,
Speaker 1: My brother, he was. He was like at a time,
Speaker 1: very early on, like my biggest supporter. You know what
Speaker 1: we was, We was coming up in the ranks in jail.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was never rapping, so nobody knew me
Speaker 1: for rap. So when I started rapping when I got
Speaker 1: out of the box, the first jail I went to
Speaker 1: when I when I got out of the box after
Speaker 1: I was rapping was Elmira. I went back to Elmira
Speaker 1: and and me and him. You well, he came in
Speaker 1: and we wound up being next door neighbors. So I
Speaker 1: would be like, yo, listen to this, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we had that bond and when
Speaker 1: I came home, he was like, yo, yeah, let's go,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he was he was
Speaker 1: my he was he was my he was my guy man.
Speaker 1: That's what rest of Peace shoes. So it was a
Speaker 1: monster and a rebel. And he had that energy man
Speaker 1: that motivation then definitely motivated he did. He was telling
Speaker 1: my guys like, oh yeah listening, Oh you know, listen.
Speaker 1: He was the same way in the hood.
Speaker 3: Used to tell us the same shitting mass yo, main
Speaker 3: that nigga and telling you why you gonna take this
Speaker 3: ship over Zoe and then I watched you grind my
Speaker 3: g and then here come High absolutely yo.
Speaker 1: Before I hated it was Woumas though only from Little Womas.
Speaker 1: When it was the song when I was talking about
Speaker 1: old the Woman's that's the song that actually got me
Speaker 1: signed first. That was the song that kind of changed
Speaker 1: the game because before that it was like the mixtapes
Speaker 1: and the DVDs. It was that error. We was end
Speaker 1: up talking crazy yo. The way going back there, he
Speaker 1: just spuked the memory. Man. I remember back then too.
Speaker 1: That's when they used to be like, Yo, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna front. It ain't no squeezing all the dj is
Speaker 1: he putting Yoda in on everybody net and nigga in
Speaker 1: the club like this, Yo, let me high at you
Speaker 1: rekick HOLMEI niggas say you with the old everybody in
Speaker 1: the cippy you know what. I hear that so much right,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't feel like it was like that,
Speaker 1: Like like I don't think because niggas, you know, I
Speaker 1: was smacking DJs up. And then I'm like, nah, I ain't
Speaker 1: never ever putting my heads on a on a DJ. Okay.
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of promoters but oh yeah, no, DJs. Right.
Speaker 1: But the thing was is like sometimes we got it.
Speaker 1: I was coming from a world where it was like
Speaker 1: it was aggressive. I've been in two places in my
Speaker 1: whole life. It was the streets and I've been in prison,
Speaker 1: and I went after the person. I went back to
Speaker 1: the streets. So my, my, my, my introduction might have
Speaker 1: been a little aggressive because the energy of just coming home.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta understand the mentality of a nigga
Speaker 1: that just been in prison all this time. Its energy
Speaker 1: is up because we sit in the day won like
Speaker 1: damn fantasize and your brother. Let me tell you, man,
Speaker 1: I used to sit in the day one and watch
Speaker 1: y'all understand this perspective of of of seventy people in
Speaker 1: the day one watching TRL or Rap City and they
Speaker 1: doing Rockefeller Countdown or whatever it is, and we're just like, man,
Speaker 1: I touched down right like and you could just fantasize.
Speaker 1: And I tell proof all the time, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: we have to be down with rock and fellas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I want to like because
Speaker 1: everybody like you have these dreams. You have these dreams.
Speaker 1: I tell over a lot, man, I don't think he
Speaker 1: understands that he know. I ain't gonna say he don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think at one point, bro, we could have
Speaker 1: signed the whole New York City absolutely, one hundred absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know what y'all did for for people coming from,
Speaker 1: especially where we come from. We're from the Star. Like
Speaker 1: when you see somebody doing that, you absolutely relate to you, like, man,
Speaker 1: it gives you some hope that you could change some
Speaker 1: of this shit around and your life, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And back then, a lot of these kids
Speaker 1: don't understand because it's all you gonna say. It's easy,
Speaker 1: but it's easier than it was for us back then. Again,
Speaker 1: in the game, you could create a YouTube channel, I
Speaker 1: g Twitter, write your following up, and they see a music.
Speaker 1: Back then, this ship was like telling a nigga you
Speaker 1: going to the NBA's like, no, you know, if you
Speaker 1: had a major record deal, it was because you was
Speaker 1: that good. That's right, right, it had to be you
Speaker 1: was that good, and that's what it said. It was.
Speaker 1: It was more prestigious. It was like it was a
Speaker 1: because you had to meet a standard, like because everybody
Speaker 1: wasn't getting record deals. Yeah, and there's certain people got
Speaker 1: in because they got vouched for right, but it was
Speaker 1: it was still who you knew though that the fact right,
Speaker 1: which wasn't wasn't easy because everybody have act sess So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like now where you know, the technology made
Speaker 1: it to where it's like you can go your grandmother
Speaker 1: basement and make a record and then uploading on your
Speaker 1: Instagram and your YouTube page and then you just you
Speaker 1: just a rapper, right, And I say this all the time.
Speaker 1: Rap is like the only you know, you know industry
Speaker 1: where it's no standard. You don't have to meet a requirement, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just can't be a
Speaker 1: professional boxer, you know, you can't just be no. You
Speaker 1: can't wake up and just yeah you're gonna get your
Speaker 1: Nick Bright. You can't just be a professional basketball player
Speaker 1: like nothing. You can't wake up and get in the
Speaker 1: no League nothing. Just can't just be a doctor, you
Speaker 1: got it. Can't just be alloyer like you have to study, work,
Speaker 1: study school master, right, yeah, rap you can like, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, I got four thousand fowls. I't be rapping,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I'm going to the studio and then
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna be lit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In the way it's good and bad because in the
Speaker 1: way it oversaturates the game, that's too you know, accessible
Speaker 1: for everybody. But then the good side is more. Man,
Speaker 1: it's making a lot of uneducated people that they qualified
Speaker 1: to get jobs, able to feed and provide. I'm always
Speaker 1: love that. I love that. I'm always lost shaw that
Speaker 1: it not only give you a give gives people jobs,
Speaker 1: but it gives you something to do. Yes right right.
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's like it brings down the value
Speaker 1: of what it devalues the product because if you got
Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit, it's just like selling work, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, you you fleck the black or trash. They
Speaker 1: not gonna make it to the guy over here who's
Speaker 1: out of the head banger right feel me? And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing over here. It's or saturated. It devalues
Speaker 1: even the idea of being a rapper because everybody is one.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even want it. I don't add
Speaker 1: me that. But it's not even saying that. That's why
Speaker 1: I have two sayings. Man, Even with producers, like I
Speaker 1: feel like in this game there's beat makers and there's producers.
Speaker 1: The beat maker is nigga who's gonna send you thirty
Speaker 1: beats and expect you to do his job finding the
Speaker 1: hot one producer will sit with you, come with the
Speaker 1: long a idea he's gonna create that goes to your point.
Speaker 1: Not a rapper, right, you're an artist espe. Oh there's rappers, right,
Speaker 1: and then there's artists indeed who this is the art?
Speaker 1: So speaking on that, how did how would you say
Speaker 1: how Hayter changed your life? What it was the first
Speaker 1: sonic that that really went that went for me? Crational?
Speaker 1: You know what that feel like? Bro? Like this is
Speaker 1: a dream come true? Right? Five years before that I
Speaker 1: was I was walking the yard. You understand, like this
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, like a hit, and you gotta understand like
Speaker 1: it was nobody nobody had done really what I had.
Speaker 1: But nobody had came home after you in ten years
Speaker 1: in jail and came up. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Half these rappers that are rappers that go to jail
Speaker 1: with come home, come home trash right like so to
Speaker 1: come home link, Yeah, it hadn't happened like that for
Speaker 1: nobody prior to that. So I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: it was a dream come shootover bro, like just to
Speaker 1: just to make it that far. And I will always say, man,
Speaker 1: if it if it ended now, over overachieved because I
Speaker 1: did what they said that I couldn't understand. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't never supposed to even get this fall like
Speaker 1: I was the whole inmate nigga, real blood packs. Fact
Speaker 1: that I met that's so crazy man, that I met
Speaker 1: you after you came home, that's right to meet you before.
Speaker 1: And we got so much mutual friends, my chiirs, like
Speaker 1: we know, the whole Brooklyn is the same and it's
Speaker 1: like yoh with the fun. Yeah, I'm from those yeah,
Speaker 1: Marshy right down the black set, like literally right down
Speaker 1: the block, my gee. So I would say to you, right,
Speaker 1: what's the most important business lesson? You would say you
Speaker 1: learned and gain you would give to these young don't
Speaker 1: take none personal business same personal That's a fact. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you can do business with with with personal people yours.
Speaker 1: But the business and the moves that you make, it's
Speaker 1: not a shouldn't come from a personal place, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of times we we uh
Speaker 1: we tired by emotions with certain things. I see a
Speaker 1: lot of artists get mad at the people that they
Speaker 1: were signed to. I thought he was my man, though,
Speaker 1: I thought he was like you know, you see a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, people puff for getting flat for
Speaker 1: certain things with artists or whatever. Right, man, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: no black man contract was worse than the white man contract.
Speaker 1: No nobody. And I'm educated myself a little bit in
Speaker 1: the game a little bit, so I'm saying, nobody did
Speaker 1: no business different than they's been doing than what they've done.
Speaker 1: Everybody like gotta remember, I feel like people gonna do
Speaker 1: what onto others, what was done to that loom, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. If we learned the game in
Speaker 1: a negative way, you're gonna repeat the game in a
Speaker 1: negative way. And it's just that's just how we come.
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta give to get right. You're not
Speaker 1: always gonna have what you want when you want it.
Speaker 1: But the opportunity is bigger than the chap you go
Speaker 1: the town the opportunity. That's why it's sugar crazy to
Speaker 1: say that, because I had I was just talking to
Speaker 1: Norry today and he was telling me about it's a
Speaker 1: viral video going on with Steve Harvey where he says
Speaker 1: about yo when the person lose their fathers when they
Speaker 1: realize that's the only man whoever wanted you to be
Speaker 1: better than him, that there's no other man that you're
Speaker 1: gonna meet in your life that wants you to be
Speaker 1: better than them. Like you know what I mean, nigga
Speaker 1: wants you to look good, but not better than them.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling nor of that's true. And I'm the
Speaker 1: type of nigga. Of course I want my niggas. I
Speaker 1: want to be the best. But if I know setting
Speaker 1: you up to get the wind for you, it's gonna
Speaker 1: make the win for me easier and we'll let you
Speaker 1: be there. He was like, you're bleeding. Not everybody is
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm saying with your point is we
Speaker 1: need more niggas that's willing to sacrifice the w for
Speaker 1: the one because it makes the road easier for the
Speaker 1: for the many. Because if we don't feel like for
Speaker 1: this other you, then yeah, but then we gotta learn
Speaker 1: how to work together and learn with your what your
Speaker 1: power is, and learn with the See that's the only
Speaker 1: way that happens. And yes, strips might be might be
Speaker 1: a weakness for me, My weakness might be a cerin
Speaker 1: for somebody else. You know what I'm saying. But if
Speaker 1: we come together, then we then we then we play
Speaker 1: to our strengths. That's right, right, and that's how and
Speaker 1: we balance that. That's that's why I love what you
Speaker 1: and Jim did with the lobby boys, like I respect
Speaker 1: that because in New York, man, you know, they paint
Speaker 1: the picture on us that we don't fuck with each other.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: And and I'll just I just said that, I don't
Speaker 1: think we get enough credit for FLA actually kind of
Speaker 1: like brushing that backwards because it's like we we traditionally
Speaker 1: known as the people that don't get along with each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we come. You know, Brooklyn hallm linking up and
Speaker 1: bab and East and all of us, all of us
Speaker 1: is building this this this friendship and then building business alignment.
Speaker 1: You understand, like and and that and that comes by
Speaker 1: that comes without ego. That's the only way that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's right, right. Every as a as an artist, as
Speaker 1: a rapper, we tend to think everything is about us. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what, why they ain't let me come out,
Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean? Why you ain't called
Speaker 1: me for that verse? While everything you're always gonna be
Speaker 1: about you. That's a fact, and you gotta learn to
Speaker 1: get there. So sometimes I come out it's just support.
Speaker 1: It ain't about that. It ain't the boss, right No,
Speaker 1: And then sometimes some nice it is about me and
Speaker 1: the homies is just support. That's right. They gotta they
Speaker 1: got this right or that's right. That's that's how they go,
Speaker 1: y'all moving. I love what your did. It started with
Speaker 1: the working now y'all niggas have me. Yeah, just working
Speaker 1: out with Jim Man, like yo, now you fit flashier
Speaker 1: show world up. And then the fucking the artist to
Speaker 1: artists man, but that artist artists artists started, But then
Speaker 1: we did we branched out into the owners. Let's rap
Speaker 1: about it. Oh yeah, that's what is. Let's rap about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my bad bad promote too shows artist starters and let's
Speaker 1: rap about it. Check out both for them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But yo, y'all niggas be shooting yo.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody got the sniper right for like what's
Speaker 1: that word? Words? Everything? And it's a fashion shows up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, y'all, y'all all go. They could afford the flies.
Speaker 1: The New York get in the room together y'all niggas
Speaker 1: is just major, major battling old cameras quiet too, that's
Speaker 1: a war niggas coming there outfits. Yeah, just but that day, yo,
Speaker 1: I Couldn't's crazy man, I'm like that fly guys who's
Speaker 1: on that next level ship. YEA been on there. You'll
Speaker 1: be going hard to with the grab You'll be on.
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to have my you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you know it's it's It's cool though, and because
Speaker 1: that's who we are, like yo, so and what makes
Speaker 1: the show good is that we really got that relationship.
Speaker 1: It's that chemistry. Yeah, man, man, that's dope. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I say that's why I did this show because a
Speaker 1: lot of people think thinkgas don fuck with each other.
Speaker 1: That's like, man, I got a lot of relationships that
Speaker 1: niggas don't even know behind the scenes. Me and such
Speaker 1: and such, kicking and me and such and such, vacation,
Speaker 1: me and such and such boys since being little like
Speaker 1: think about it, Like one one of my main homies
Speaker 1: is a VL crew, and I remember the first time
Speaker 1: I seen them ride around like yo, yo, proof you
Speaker 1: ko be now and you're like, yeah, blizz, I'm kao
Speaker 1: B But I've always getting low. Man, I'm like, that's right, Peter,
Speaker 1: But bro I knew proof since proof was like fucking fact.
Speaker 1: We talk about y'all all the time. We heard and
Speaker 1: we talk about you know how y'all you know Rockefeller
Speaker 1: get low. We talk about all that. Jeter. Then you know,
Speaker 1: you shout out, Ja, shout out to juz k Man,
Speaker 1: shout out, shout out, shout out to my man, Piso Successes,
Speaker 1: because you know Piso. When I came home, took me
Speaker 1: the Jeda k House and we snatched Gita up because
Speaker 1: I was hungry. I wanted to do a song with whoever.
Speaker 1: And you gotta understand, you gotta look at it from
Speaker 1: my point of view. All y'all lit to me. That's right,
Speaker 1: All y'all licked to me. Everybody. This lady was on fire.
Speaker 1: Jeda was on Cody all without us do long. I
Speaker 1: never been on the tour reflex. Jeter was. We went
Speaker 1: to Cheetah House, word, wake up, nigga, let's go, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go, We're going to the studio, and he had
Speaker 1: forty rhymes where we was ready and yeah and and
Speaker 1: and those those those memories. Man Like it was like man,
Speaker 1: I gotta get on like I. You know, so you
Speaker 1: shout out, shout out to so we always we always
Speaker 1: be reflect on that and I'll be like, man, Man,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Rockefeller. Man, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: down them days. Man, I ain't gonna front Bro Rockefeller.
Speaker 1: I think I took them days for granted. White said
Speaker 1: that because I was young, and you know, when you
Speaker 1: ain't prepare for the ending, you don't see an end this.
Speaker 1: He told me the same thing. Yeah, like you don't
Speaker 1: see an ending, bro, Like it's like this is forever.
Speaker 1: So I didn't cherish it like one day this can
Speaker 1: be gone. Like I feel like that situation is trained
Speaker 1: me to realize that everything ain't forever. Because I really
Speaker 1: believe Rockefeller was forever, this thing of ours. I could
Speaker 1: see that, like you know what I'm saying. Remember I
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old, Bro, I didn't know anything else
Speaker 1: but Rockefeller, you know what I'm saying. So when it
Speaker 1: was coming to an end, that shit was devastating. You
Speaker 1: didn't even see it though, No I did. You've seen it, bro, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know. I used to be trying to town niggas
Speaker 1: and nigga used to be looking at me like blizz Man,
Speaker 1: we get Maddy shut out. It's like, okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: see like word, I used to be trying to put
Speaker 1: niggas on and it just say you feel like because
Speaker 1: me and him had these talks, Me and men living proof, right,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, I had to work for every
Speaker 1: everything I got. Bro, I'm like, nobody gave me. Now
Speaker 1: I had to bind every bit of it. So he said,
Speaker 1: that's the difference. He say with us, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of it was given to us. And when you know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, appreciate like this, dude, think about it. Bro.
Speaker 1: We had a studio Baseline Student where it's two rooms.
Speaker 1: You can go to this studio anytime of day. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you showed them at nine in the
Speaker 1: morning or four o'clock in the morning. And there's just
Speaker 1: Blazed Guru Bink Kanye West in the studio. And we
Speaker 1: don't have too level of records at disposing. This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, and we in there playing obs
Speaker 1: something y'all. But he was telling y'all like, y'all need
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. It was too I think
Speaker 1: we were too young seeing too much, too fast, Bro,
Speaker 1: and me thinking, yeah, we all from Marci, each my niggas,
Speaker 1: they watch me grow. What this ship forever like? But
Speaker 1: as far as like position in the team, that wasn't
Speaker 1: given because it's a lot of niggas that was on
Speaker 1: the team that never got a chance to drop an album.
Speaker 1: What you mean like think about it? Oh, skin on
Speaker 1: Sparks never dropped the p d Krack never dropped the album. Oh,
Speaker 1: they only was on the Snake Pro each cell tracking
Speaker 1: out and I wanted these guys to drop albums. But
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. We niggas was on tour so much,
Speaker 1: already had changed, already had bends his houses. It was
Speaker 1: like nigga we named It's what we rapped for from
Speaker 1: the from the outside looking at that, it just looked
Speaker 1: so tremendous. It was Bro, it was by that movement
Speaker 1: was just so tremendous. It was Brooklyn and Harlem Halem.
Speaker 1: We had Philly Philly Yo and didn't think we mop
Speaker 1: O dB rest in Peace. We've had the singers Nicole
Speaker 1: Ray yeh Yo. Bro, we had everybody. Man, we was
Speaker 1: we was low en up. That's what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: could have signed everybody man like for real, but enough
Speaker 1: about us. Back to you man, you or the major
Speaker 1: like you stepped into this media wave like I'm fresh,
Speaker 1: I'm new, I'm the rookie, your whitelock. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: act like because I've been in the game for years.
Speaker 1: I know this media spa. I'm the rookie on the block.
Speaker 1: You are the veteran on the block. You better than
Speaker 1: this shit, nah, Bro, You've been doing it from kitchen
Speaker 1: talk right love and hip hop, hosting the radio show
Speaker 1: and angela ye you know what I mean than doing
Speaker 1: the part with the homies right now? Like, what's that
Speaker 1: journey been like for you? I'm a hustle man, and
Speaker 1: the thing about it is like it never was easy
Speaker 1: for me, Bro, Nothing ever was easy for me. I
Speaker 1: had to work for everything. Bro. I had this rhyme
Speaker 1: for everything, everything that that people see me accomplished. I
Speaker 1: had to really go get it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I gotta be on time, I gotta make sure I'm
Speaker 1: near because I don't want them to use that as
Speaker 1: an excuse. So I feel like I'm I was always
Speaker 1: coming from a deficit, you understand. So I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we all got talent. It's just tapping into
Speaker 1: different things. You know, we all got things about us,
Speaker 1: you know, and as far as you know, media or
Speaker 1: television or radio, that ship personality. Let that shine. That's right,
Speaker 1: it's shine. You understand how to talk, that's right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was nervous of this. Yeah, I did it, nor
Speaker 1: they told me. I'm like, man, I don't think I
Speaker 1: do it. Got it though? You got it. You got it,
Speaker 1: though you've been holding it down. You did it so
Speaker 1: much like and you like a pioneer in my eyes. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like I said, Bro, you started first the kitchen Talk move.
Speaker 1: Like I should have never stopped Kitchen Talk. I stopped
Speaker 1: that because you know, I see a lot of people
Speaker 1: that you know, Oh you did kitchen talk and it
Speaker 1: didn't work. No, it did work, but it worked so
Speaker 1: well that I actually got a deal with Kitchen Talk
Speaker 1: that we I did with Fox with Fox Soul. But
Speaker 1: then the problem with that is that once I did
Speaker 1: that deal with them, it stopped being a podcast and
Speaker 1: I didn't. And I was only doing it now when
Speaker 1: you got my check. So if you got my six figures,
Speaker 1: I gave these ten episodes. What he's doing this on now, right,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not about if being a podcast no
Speaker 1: more so once that stopped, it's like you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to go back and pick something back up,
Speaker 1: you know, But I learned a lot and I'm glad
Speaker 1: I did it because it allows me and it helps
Speaker 1: me to do what I'm doing to day. It's right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So every day everything that
Speaker 1: means is like a step. It ain't no book falls bleak.
Speaker 1: I don't know, nobody tell us how to do something.
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out since like you give me
Speaker 1: like a like a little bit, like something small, like
Speaker 1: just an opportunity. That's all I need. That's all I
Speaker 1: need is the opportunity. And like me, I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been on the same path at even though we
Speaker 1: never collaborated on music, well, we've been on the same
Speaker 1: path in music. So I never been able to really
Speaker 1: ask too many people this question, but I ask you
Speaker 1: this because I know, Dily, how do you feel? Because
Speaker 1: we stay in ten toes, you know, that's the that's
Speaker 1: the code we was raised by. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the area like parents, the niggas we grew up with,
Speaker 1: like the trauma you lift through. But we always been
Speaker 1: say what you mean, mean what you saying? Stair ten
Speaker 1: toes on you. And they call that keeping it one, honey,
Speaker 1: keeping it real, whatever they want to call it. I
Speaker 1: just call it being the mad. How do you feel
Speaker 1: or do you feel that has helped or hurt your
Speaker 1: career anyway? It hurt me a lot. I feel the
Speaker 1: same way because we don't look. I'm a very principal person,
Speaker 1: and I'm a very prideful person. I probably swallowed my
Speaker 1: blood before I swallowed my pride. That's right, you understand,
Speaker 1: And sometimes you know that's not always good because this
Speaker 1: is business, right. I had to learn how to tell
Speaker 1: my guys. I said, listen, we can't out real these niggas.
Speaker 1: The reason why guys like us are losing. And he
Speaker 1: be like, why all the goofy shit is prevalent is
Speaker 1: because they don't have no parameters. We out here saying Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't do this, we don't do that, We don't
Speaker 1: go back and forth with the inter of it that,
Speaker 1: we don't do the inter of that, we don't do that. Right,
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna win, that's right. So so the
Speaker 1: thing about being a principal person you're gonna stand with
Speaker 1: in your space, and everybody may not get it, and
Speaker 1: the time you know you you may have to not
Speaker 1: be here for them to really feel that. Because sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like the world that we live in it is
Speaker 1: not about that no more. It's just like everybody's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you mean? I don't understand? Like
Speaker 1: what like you don't have defensive the sciences? Man, everybody's offended.
Speaker 1: Every nobody has principals, nobody standing on mora rules. It's like,
Speaker 1: and nobody cares about true right because on the Internet
Speaker 1: now it's just about entertainment. It's just about content, whether
Speaker 1: it's true or not. That's what thing I love what
Speaker 1: Charlae Maine saying, Man, why they care about the truth
Speaker 1: and the lives knowing the tak This is what I'm saying. Hell,
Speaker 1: it's when he said that, I'm like, it's kind of
Speaker 1: it's kind of lies entertainer, that's what they're going with.
Speaker 1: These people want to be entertained and I'm out here
Speaker 1: trying to be that is not true, trying to be real.
Speaker 1: We can't out really, we can't out real a game.
Speaker 1: We're going to always lose, Like that because this is entertainment.
Speaker 1: This is not We're not gonna win award for being
Speaker 1: real nigga. It's no category for that, right right, But
Speaker 1: you know the awards that come with being a real nigga,
Speaker 1: like hell casketch stars. That's Reglars just star. Either either
Speaker 1: either either you scar physically, scarred, mentally mentally emotionally scar
Speaker 1: on your soul right because you you you want to
Speaker 1: stand on business. You want to stand on what you
Speaker 1: feel like. You you what you represent. But the whole
Speaker 1: world doesn't see them with you retroceived. They don't even
Speaker 1: care a why they care about it. They just want
Speaker 1: to get over the next day. So I'm not out
Speaker 1: here trying to be the real sniggers, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Because yeah, they didn't won't get us, no
Speaker 1: one why Astra That is because I never forget Bro,
Speaker 1: Young save man, shout out young saf You know out
Speaker 1: here got the Loler brook girl Blamar thing move. It's family,
Speaker 1: say yea, yeah, that's family. Like he told me something
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, Bro, when he was an intern and
Speaker 1: depth in turn, that's why nowful he was an intreat
Speaker 1: His brother is with that man school man rest.
Speaker 3: So I don't remember them from being as fucked soo
Speaker 3: man all that sad man school man.
Speaker 1: Yo. He told me something. He was like, yo, bleep,
Speaker 1: you know why you ain't gonna never be successful, bro,
Speaker 1: like you dream to be because you keep it too real, lorgie.
Speaker 1: These white people don't want to be They don't want
Speaker 1: to hear the real. They want to be lied to it.
Speaker 1: They want to hear that it might be like this
Speaker 1: so you can possibly do this. They don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that is is real. And he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you never And I'm like, yo, bro, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to lie to one nigga. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to shucking jive front to these people like that's not me.
Speaker 1: But I didn't understand what he was talking about. And
Speaker 1: now now you see, I see, bro. We niggas was
Speaker 1: too too standing on sit right. You're standing on this,
Speaker 1: this this moral mountain that you're ben built for yourself.
Speaker 1: It only exists in your projects or on your block
Speaker 1: with you in like ten of your homies. That's it.
Speaker 1: And them niggas ain't never in the room with you
Speaker 1: when you negotiate it neither, sit right. They ain't not
Speaker 1: in the room with you with you have. But you know,
Speaker 1: the great thing about it is though still being here,
Speaker 1: being alive, being room to figure that out. That's what, Bro,
Speaker 1: That's my next thing to you. I was gonna sayo, Bro,
Speaker 1: you lived through hell man, being in concerrated. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, coming home enjoying all this shit. Man,
Speaker 1: where you say your strength behind all that bit resilience man,
Speaker 1: resilience worth Like I'm a strong spirited person, bro, Like
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna push through. You understand,
Speaker 1: we all still deal with with with the things that
Speaker 1: like throws at us, right, But I'm gonna always always
Speaker 1: push full man, no matter what you understand, and no
Speaker 1: matter what the situation is, I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker 1: This is why I'm still here in this error. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. Like that was one thing too. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I you stay ground because we all go
Speaker 1: through a lot of ship. You know, you look on
Speaker 1: the internet, it's Joe Smoe from over here, Joe Smoe
Speaker 1: from over there, this girl from over here. Everybody just
Speaker 1: got some opinion something to say. Everybody grounded and blocking.
Speaker 1: Gosh it up, Let's get these people some advice who
Speaker 1: just love to crash out. God, hold lo listen, I
Speaker 1: got a hold homeless ky two drug addict shit going
Speaker 1: at me, talking crazy on the internet, mag it up
Speaker 1: stories on the Internet. It's at least made up stories.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's just a lot of noise. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: like I gotta block it out. You gotta block it out.
Speaker 1: You got it, especially now when we we already see
Speaker 1: what the emotion is. Okay, I'm gonna say this and
Speaker 1: get clicked, so I commnd time my mind, size my
Speaker 1: page and my go virum and get money. So everybody
Speaker 1: is just saying everything and anything just to just to
Speaker 1: try to get these these odds on their pages. And
Speaker 1: I just I just like at this point, like because
Speaker 1: I used to get bothered by the things that that
Speaker 1: wasn't true, and I was always trying to like what
Speaker 1: nigga answering, correct, I was the same way you can't.
Speaker 1: Now I learned to laugh it off. Yeah I joke.
Speaker 1: I ain't even read this. Yeah, I joke it off because,
Speaker 1: like I said, Bro, nobody's gonna be more disrespectful than
Speaker 1: the niggas we grew up. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: my friends, was the most disresplectful. Like I said, nigga,
Speaker 1: you came out no clothes off, no new sneaks. First
Speaker 1: they score easter. Nigga, your mom's a crackcats, right, how
Speaker 1: she what? She spends all the money on that pack.
Speaker 1: She couldn't buy you those sneakers. I got the us,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get it. I'm thinking. That's what I'm saying. Smoke,
Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying, And that's farming throng and thinking
Speaker 1: that's coming from a nigga who just what's playing the
Speaker 1: tendo with it. And there you turning around and tell
Speaker 1: you your yes, yeah, oh y'all crack you smoke too. Probably
Speaker 1: you know, yo, you've seen the game like me, from
Speaker 1: every angle, you know what I mean, from past to
Speaker 1: in the our time to present. How do you think
Speaker 1: it changed for better or for worse? Bro? I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the fact that the
Speaker 1: game is now is just so accessible that it doesn't
Speaker 1: have the same value. They don't feel the same as
Speaker 1: far as like you know, calling yourself a rapper. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, we we every day we wake up, we
Speaker 1: see somebody in the paper for something like this rapper
Speaker 1: and he's like I never even heard that, so that
Speaker 1: I hate that about the game, the fact that it's
Speaker 1: just the value of the job, right you got you
Speaker 1: have a certain limit and be like, oh, he's just
Speaker 1: a rapper, Like it's just and you got niggas in
Speaker 1: the street. I can wanted a rapper, serve. It's just
Speaker 1: trying to take what what that is? You understand because
Speaker 1: it was a time you work hard to be that
Speaker 1: because that was a way out, you know. Now it's
Speaker 1: just like it's just so accessible. So I don't like
Speaker 1: that for the game, but I always and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: always love the fact that the game gave opportunity to
Speaker 1: so many people, you know what I mean? Yeah, definitely, Man,
Speaker 1: he ain't because without getting I don't like if I
Speaker 1: didn't had a game, where would yo? Bro? I always
Speaker 1: say that too, Where would I be if I didn't
Speaker 1: have this opportunity? I have no clue. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I had a game, It's like I
Speaker 1: would be probably like a fucking serial killer, Like yo,
Speaker 1: this is raised I'll probably be ill, probably be walking
Speaker 1: to y'all. This is what I'm saying, Like, I serious, No,
Speaker 1: that's a fact, bro. Without this what we was gonna do. Niggas,
Speaker 1: ain't we not colling to this? I'm not a plot
Speaker 1: I would have been out here like good with my hands.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fight iceman. Then not a mall a
Speaker 1: loan like Yo, one of my homies, right, Yo, i'anna
Speaker 1: tell you some funny shit, he said, like what we
Speaker 1: gonna do? I remember when our first moved to Florida
Speaker 1: around I'm telling the Holmi. I'm like, yo, I gotta
Speaker 1: find some landscapers to come through cut the crib. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't not doing none of
Speaker 1: that ship. I was like, Yo, yo'll know a motor law.
Speaker 1: That nigga was like, Nigga, you see these hands. These
Speaker 1: shit's getting manicured. All these hands do is write checks.
Speaker 1: I know how to do anything that a check paid for. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, that's what they're good. That's what
Speaker 1: it was like. No, I know how to do everything,
Speaker 1: you bugget. Once I pull this check book out, it's
Speaker 1: get done it. So I know how to do everything.
Speaker 1: So when my be like, yo, you know it's getting done. Second, Yeah,
Speaker 1: called the hall met, Yeah it's done. I'm on the
Speaker 1: same sign. I don't. I ain't with the manual label. Man, noah, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't with the manual label because I showed you
Speaker 1: like y'all, I ain't want to man, you know, like
Speaker 1: a man's man like that, you know, lift my car
Speaker 1: up and take the wheel off and fix the flat tire.
Speaker 1: She we will leave a call there. She called the
Speaker 1: nigga that we got to help that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying it COVID roads, yeah, roll side, all these
Speaker 1: roadside roadside and if you got on Star it's automatic,
Speaker 1: sort you push that button. Stop playing. I ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't going past you know, I ain't going past hanging
Speaker 1: off a picture or something. No, that's a fact. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I might nigga niggas to do that because I
Speaker 1: want it, like organizing a certain pattern. Right, my my
Speaker 1: hanging might be a little as a little bit a
Speaker 1: little degree off. You need to want me to come,
Speaker 1: my man, jay No, mistery no Wi is right here,
Speaker 1: come and bring his love lever. Y'all did the level
Speaker 1: up right, and that's it. I ain't gonna see that
Speaker 1: little bubble hit the middle. He got it exactly. He's like,
Speaker 1: you got it. I do got a drill though, I
Speaker 1: gotta drill. I think he got the drill just in
Speaker 1: case he like, I get one of you niggas, I
Speaker 1: clap you and live, I'm a drill your ass. That's
Speaker 1: not the dum when you had to drill some ship though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that Yo, usually there to
Speaker 1: fill up or flag. You be feeling like a major
Speaker 1: limit sitting there like this. That's why I know I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have survived. Man, if this didn't work, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have survived. So gave the game, gave. He gave
Speaker 1: us all opportunity to yeah, eat our families and you know,
Speaker 1: make our parents proud, you know, fact and and and
Speaker 1: do things that we never dreamed of doing, like you know,
Speaker 1: traveling right, been a Japan five times, you know Africa,
Speaker 1: like crazy toys, you're you're paying toys and you know,
Speaker 1: just awful music, yo, and what you said, like just
Speaker 1: kicking off on that making our mom proud. Bro, rest
Speaker 1: the piece. You know, I know you lost your mom.
Speaker 1: Not too long will go mad as you know you
Speaker 1: do the main old day we all birthday and sweat
Speaker 1: right every year and brook and then it be one
Speaker 1: of the illness turnouts because all my niggas is there
Speaker 1: for I hear it all the time. No matter where
Speaker 1: I'm at night. I don't call anybody at Brooklyn, what
Speaker 1: you doing there, I'm at Maine Off. This is so ezy.
Speaker 1: That's the door. I love that you do that for
Speaker 1: the community. Yeah that Yeah, we gotta do that. So
Speaker 1: the uh, the main old day is a real day.
Speaker 1: Like I'm actually got the day from the city. The
Speaker 1: city gave me to day because I was going my hood.
Speaker 1: I was doing the cold drives, I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was doing as much as I could, just trying
Speaker 1: to you know, get get that motivation. So they really
Speaker 1: gave me the day, you know, the Brooken ball president.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want it just to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: like a day just throw a basketball. I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something meaningful. So I was like, we need to
Speaker 1: block these streets off. I don't want to have a
Speaker 1: stage set up over here for the for the local artists,
Speaker 1: and I want to have, you know, stuff for the kids.
Speaker 1: I want to have venice. I want to have it's
Speaker 1: like a block party, festival event give back for kids.
Speaker 1: So you know it's it's huge. Yeah, I block off
Speaker 1: I block off Green all the way to Lafayette. I
Speaker 1: know it's to your locks, bro. They talking about it
Speaker 1: in the paper. Yeah, radio, yeah, news, confridge everything. That's
Speaker 1: amazing you've been doing that. I think, what is this?
Speaker 1: Your four foot murder gonna be the third? It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a third. Yeah yeah, man, See that's amazing, bro.
Speaker 1: We need more people like that. I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: show the community it's other ways, because I feel like
Speaker 1: we were shown. We were shown in a negative way,
Speaker 1: but we still were shown because think about it, the
Speaker 1: drug dealers and our error was getting money. Indeed, they
Speaker 1: was getting money, and that's what made us want to
Speaker 1: get money. Like wait, we ain't know what to do
Speaker 1: with the money, but we knew we needed to get money.
Speaker 1: And that I feel like we the generation showing the
Speaker 1: young kids who getting money what to do with the money.
Speaker 1: I tell, I tell your little niggas. I'm like you, look,
Speaker 1: your opportunity was way greater than mine. That's a fright.
Speaker 1: Niggas only had when I was your age. Nigs only
Speaker 1: had cracking the gun for me. That's a fact. You
Speaker 1: asked for some advice. Here you go cracking him down.
Speaker 1: That's it, right. So that was that was our opportunity, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta not just tell somebody. I feel like the
Speaker 1: lessons that was taught to us was like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta do the right thing, and you gotta if you
Speaker 1: want to tell me to put down what I'm what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, give me something else, show me, show me,
Speaker 1: show me better than you could take. And that that's
Speaker 1: still applies. Kid, Just tell these kids stop sharing the
Speaker 1: go and shall stop whatever, yo, al and put the
Speaker 1: gun down back then set up. It was just like
Speaker 1: me Sha his ms on drugs, he ever met his father,
Speaker 1: he lived with his grandmother, he in the gang. It's
Speaker 1: the same story. So you gotta actually give them something
Speaker 1: and the and the problem is that we don't have
Speaker 1: no more senses and stuff like that. Remember that I
Speaker 1: was a little voice club and I am c all
Speaker 1: of that, man, the kidding me. I just have a
Speaker 1: school all of that. The ship, the b r C
Speaker 1: out there Eastern New York and all of that. Man,
Speaker 1: it's no more sillers you right, ship, it ain't even
Speaker 1: know yogi been yo. You know, I found you know,
Speaker 1: I found out that that was one family who funded
Speaker 1: that that wasn't from the city. Really, Yes, that was
Speaker 1: one family, like as if you and your wife for
Speaker 1: me and my wife just paid. That was one family
Speaker 1: who funded. We needed to shine light on them because
Speaker 1: they between that and free lunch in the summer time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that big came up Saturday morning, Saturday waning.
Speaker 1: It was that. But I am up front that bus ride.
Speaker 1: You had to be certified, was taking your candy. It
Speaker 1: was glad to be certified. We're going away to bush
Speaker 1: with Yeah. It was well, yeah, whole stop. That's the fact.
Speaker 1: The whole sto got bus like this, what you got?
Speaker 1: What's it that bad? Now? Now you're there? You big
Speaker 1: was kind of land into what spotted you feel like
Speaker 1: later on you understand, Yo, that bus ride was serious.
Speaker 1: Then you get to the center. Member, everybody's from all
Speaker 1: the hoods, isn't it? You went just two three homianes.
Speaker 1: They linked up. Y'all need to go get a lot
Speaker 1: of relationships and plums came out. Yogi Ber Beer, I
Speaker 1: got cool. I got cool with a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of other kids
Speaker 1: from n og Yeah in Yogi Beer, I guess we
Speaker 1: was in the same route, you know, like Yogi Bear
Speaker 1: was that ship and you're talking about free lunch man. Now, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: big Apple was it? Remember they were yo, this was
Speaker 1: a time where they was shut down. What was it?
Speaker 1: I think it was the junior high schools because it
Speaker 1: was thirty three, even even higher seventy, but even in
Speaker 1: certain public schools because my fifty six yety six was
Speaker 1: open gross the street from Marsypool lunch in that yo. Yo.
Speaker 1: You see our always said I wanted to be in
Speaker 1: the era of how big Marsypool become Marsy Pool. And
Speaker 1: it's not in Bossi Marcy, Yeah, but it's deep Calby.
Speaker 1: Now listen Bossy Pool. Oh we was you sell you
Speaker 1: monsoo pools. You would lose sneakers. You only there if
Speaker 1: you wasn't certified and you took them sneakers off. It
Speaker 1: got in that pool, you got out. He was in
Speaker 1: their mind. And we was in Massapool fighting everywhere, fighting
Speaker 1: the lifeguards like you was in there. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was robberies going down like it was injuries. Yes,
Speaker 1: now that I heard, they got it on the timer.
Speaker 1: Now yeah, remember how you were in the Metropolitan pool
Speaker 1: because remember Metropolitan, that's the inside one. Yeah. Let everybody
Speaker 1: that they used to give a time that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't y'all to come back at two thirty. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: heard that's how they Yeah, now you know that's the pool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We used to actually go to Mansa pool when it
Speaker 1: was clothed. When it was clod climb the gate. Climb
Speaker 1: the gate in there with your little joy and cops
Speaker 1: coming around ya flashing the flash.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They had another part that was closed off. I guess
Speaker 1: it was open years ago, right, the deepest pools deep right,
Speaker 1: and we used to play on the top of that.
Speaker 1: They have fence on top and we used to was
Speaker 1: I never got I f I ain't never get on
Speaker 1: one of the holes and it was dirty and the
Speaker 1: one of the hole and stop watching. Yeah, one of
Speaker 1: my homies dropped his stop watching and went in there
Speaker 1: and got it. Oh he is sad. It was filthy
Speaker 1: year size of it. Oh yeah, savage Joe, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna from one of the wireless pools. I ever been
Speaker 1: to a Brooklyn, this Vessio and fucking Brownsville that I
Speaker 1: know that was nigga listen. I was too young to
Speaker 1: be certified. I was in there with my cousins and
Speaker 1: the used to be in there front yo, bro Western
Speaker 1: f Shaw Price rock steal my cousins, Yo, bro, these
Speaker 1: niggas used to be in there going crazy wold and
Speaker 1: and I'm a short he just like. I remember one
Speaker 1: day sitting in Vessie at pool. I'm sitting there with
Speaker 1: my Mom's just on the cot on on one of
Speaker 1: the little bleacher stands, three on the tower. Whatever. A
Speaker 1: nigga climbed over the fence in a hoodie jeans tail,
Speaker 1: jumped in the pool, swim to the other side, got
Speaker 1: out and walked out. Yo, or mind me. I was
Speaker 1: a shorty, like yo, what was wrong? What's wrong with
Speaker 1: the media? He was hottest? He was from Brownsville. Yeah, different,
Speaker 1: so different, different DNA. That's a different deep different DNA,
Speaker 1: Brownsville different. I used to tell people because you know,
Speaker 1: going to school growing up in Brooklyn, that's one thing go.
Speaker 1: You know in the summer when you go back to school,
Speaker 1: you know, all the kids used to be like the
Speaker 1: teacher be like, yo, so what y'all did this summer?
Speaker 1: You know a lot of kids be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was in Virginia with my cousins. You asked the phrase
Speaker 1: I was in Jordah yo, like that, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I spent my sow intil the Marcus Garvey and right,
Speaker 1: you know that was like a third world country. Bro.
Speaker 1: It was another word mother glass and still look crazy.
Speaker 1: Imagine what it was like then. Yo, it was yo, bro,
Speaker 1: it was the terror Dome. My grandmom's God bless us so, bro,
Speaker 1: My grandmoms used to pull out the Bible when I
Speaker 1: was to be like, I'm going out, Sonny, don't mind me.
Speaker 1: She used to be uncutting to me. I better watch him.
Speaker 1: You gotta think though, it was what what what it
Speaker 1: was for mother, oh grandmother fall in the eighties that
Speaker 1: they had kids in the ghetto. It was no phones, no,
Speaker 1: there was no cameras. There was no cameras. You let
Speaker 1: your kids go out. You could just all you had
Speaker 1: to do was all you could do is praying that
Speaker 1: they men and her. That's right, and it was broad.
Speaker 1: That's my first time seeing the body was in the veil.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent this way walking the fence was the ship.
Speaker 1: But you was it shorty like, yeah, I'm want my
Speaker 1: ninja ships walk the fi I see two niggas arguing.
Speaker 1: But in Brownsville back then, they had like the logs.
Speaker 1: It was like the tree like the tree cut out
Speaker 1: and there was the logs around. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: walking that. I see two niggas arguments like nine in
Speaker 1: the morning. I'm the only nigga outside. They arguing. I
Speaker 1: ain't paying no attention to it. I get around the
Speaker 1: other side. So I just hear a niggas say what
Speaker 1: motherfucker take that? And then you know, I'm thinking, no
Speaker 1: not he run off. It's like, Yo, it's nothing. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Hey arguing and help me run off? It's cool, y'all.
Speaker 1: Get around, walk around. May not look the nigga had
Speaker 1: a knife in his neck. Yo. Bro jumped down and
Speaker 1: ran to the crib with too my coussin. Yo, T way, yo,
Speaker 1: every they just stabbed somebody and we come down and
Speaker 1: bro body in the body in the park. And then
Speaker 1: that's what police used to be like anybody saw anything,
Speaker 1: like I ain't cause you bet not telling I So
Speaker 1: I wasn't outside. Way he was on camera, Yo, it's
Speaker 1: doing the only way you guys the nurst time ever
Speaker 1: seeing it go down, and I was like, oh, he
Speaker 1: left the knife and his neck was crazy. What's the gangster? Though?
Speaker 1: Left it in his neck? If you leave your knife
Speaker 1: knife in a nigga neck. You definitely a gangster. You
Speaker 1: you old fu leaving it? Then you gotta understand what
Speaker 1: leaving the knife and the nigga left. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You left your prints everything. As a kid, I ain't
Speaker 1: think nothing of it. But now it was like, take
Speaker 1: that he wanted to go down? Yeah, I see that
Speaker 1: was a bad nigga though. Yeah he was on some
Speaker 1: ship they was and we'll see that now. No he
Speaker 1: caught you know that all these DNA forensics shar is
Speaker 1: ass this book. Man. Yeah, that was my first first
Speaker 1: time seeing it go down. It was probably like nine
Speaker 1: g like what the fule or? But back to this man,
Speaker 1: so man like, when it's all set and done, man like,
Speaker 1: you did so much my g from the movement, like
Speaker 1: I said, from being in concentrated, coming home, taking over
Speaker 1: the gag, the media space, everything. When it's all sett
Speaker 1: and done, what you want people to say about meing though,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm building now, bro, legacy. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't done enough. Mmmm, it'still work
Speaker 1: because then it's still working in progress. You know, everybody's
Speaker 1: story different. But I feel like now we're talking about
Speaker 1: legacy so now when we talk about main O Day,
Speaker 1: that's legacy ship. That's right. The music is in entertainment
Speaker 1: is you know you could do all that and pass away.
Speaker 1: They won't They won't remember you. But when you're doing
Speaker 1: things like what I'm doing main O Day and building
Speaker 1: some stuff, that's legacy ship. You understand, Like, that's that's
Speaker 1: when we be here. When you're going music to correct,
Speaker 1: music will be there right what they may they may
Speaker 1: not remember you, it's you right like and what for
Speaker 1: for something? Right? Like? What who are you? Like? Why
Speaker 1: wat should my kids know about you? Because you had
Speaker 1: a couple of songs? Well it's too many rappers nigga, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you understand, so would you different? But you're not in
Speaker 1: that too many rappers. You made an impact by saying
Speaker 1: I'm trying to cheap making a impact that's gonna last weather.
Speaker 1: You did, bro You did make an impact gonna last
Speaker 1: five for Brod's trusted me. They like, my nigga. What
Speaker 1: you did for Brooklyn just either just think of fuck
Speaker 1: the rap game. They think of how Manx came out
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to even be on that Litz, for I named
Speaker 1: to be on that litz to be mentioned we accomplished something.
Speaker 1: We didn't even think it was possible broke because it
Speaker 1: wasn't they always was it was. It was fucking we
Speaker 1: did the impossible. Literally, what you mean you're gonna come
Speaker 1: home and wrap? Even our mom said that. Even my
Speaker 1: moms used to be like, boy, put that notebook away.
Speaker 1: Fuck you better put out that homework. I bet you
Speaker 1: moms won't ever ut of those words to me. Now
Speaker 1: she's like they could put that book back out. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Like I used to get shipped on. My brother was
Speaker 1: my number one hater. Really what it used to be like, Yo, dre,
Speaker 1: how to say last it sound like a pack of
Speaker 1: ass you trash yep from My brother used to shit
Speaker 1: on me. It wasn't until I dropped mine right with
Speaker 1: him and his mill. This is even after you was
Speaker 1: bleaks all that and the trash. I'm telling my brother
Speaker 1: was like me and my brother used to fight with it. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's right, thinkings hated. So that's why I know if
Speaker 1: he likes something that is really really it was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs. I grew up just a regular
Speaker 1: cat my brother. That's when I favorite on man that
Speaker 1: that song came about. Man, Shout out Jay Runner and
Speaker 1: what you think of that? I love what you think
Speaker 1: of that? And Yo, them two songs you bringing up
Speaker 1: is crazy because there's a movie behind both of those songs.
Speaker 1: Man rested piece of my Man's skins from Marci, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's how regular Cat came about.
Speaker 1: That's why I say the ship. He was a dude
Speaker 1: from the hood nobody had to like and nobody seemed
Speaker 1: to like him. That was my dog, so nobody had
Speaker 1: to like him like he was. He was one of those.
Speaker 1: But he was one of my guys. You know how
Speaker 1: like everybody parents try to tell your mom, Yo, your
Speaker 1: son should hang with him like you were trying to
Speaker 1: kill him. He's a getting It's like, I think, I
Speaker 1: don't care what that's what's my dog. And that's how
Speaker 1: that song came about because I lost the homie and
Speaker 1: what you think of that? Shout out the bub wow.
Speaker 1: But Wild did that and we that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the first single. There wasn't no myth Bleakers. I
Speaker 1: went all like, did y'all put it out as a single?
Speaker 1: First song? It was a second It came after myth Bleak.
Speaker 1: Is the story about that is we couldn't clear the sample.
Speaker 1: They wasn't clearing the sample. It wasn't no j verse
Speaker 1: on it or nothing. I had three verses on what
Speaker 1: you think of that? So then Jay, we took one
Speaker 1: of my verses off. Jay heard the record like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a verse on it. He put a
Speaker 1: verse on it. They cleared the sample, and we already
Speaker 1: did the video and then myth bleak is already So
Speaker 1: that's why we went with that first crazy no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your businesses, I I always, I always. I was sitting back,
Speaker 1: you know, being the student of the game. My brother.
Speaker 1: You know that's trying to you know, show my reach,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's back then when the game everybody
Speaker 1: was on some make your major gangster ship. You drewing car,
Speaker 1: you job linking a lot steal my rather that song
Speaker 1: on his album Murder for Life, Murder, Murder for Arrested,
Speaker 1: Piece of Earth, Gandhi, he produced that Android Yeah, Murder
Speaker 1: the whole Life for that first JAU album is classic.
Speaker 1: I love that album classic. I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people give them credit that. Yeah, that Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like they erased that for John and Jay, remember
Speaker 1: like put it on like a girl Records you know,
Speaker 1: it's like they didn't. But he had melody and all
Speaker 1: that on that right, it was different. It was different
Speaker 1: tho it was more street. Yeah, that album was there.
Speaker 1: That album is I think it's my favorite Jabu album,
Speaker 1: the Misi. You know man, you know that album was it.
Speaker 1: I tell you to this day, bro, that's my dog
Speaker 1: that album is it. It's just you know, once he
Speaker 1: got that commercial success, he went to it like nigga,
Speaker 1: you got to take to that commercial that reckon with
Speaker 1: TK man, you t you just pla my dagger. You know,
Speaker 1: me got that great boy back to Brooklyn. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, should get that radio run there. That's a
Speaker 1: different love. Different. Yeah, That's why I'll be trying to
Speaker 1: talking with artists that that viral YouTube Spotify you got
Speaker 1: a million streams, is lit, but that radio hit run
Speaker 1: is different. It's yeah, yo, it's nothing compared. It's like
Speaker 1: they can't escape, you know. So now that you're with nowadays,
Speaker 1: you got artists that are like stars. But you'll be like,
Speaker 1: I don't I never heard of him. I don't know
Speaker 1: those music. Yes, when you when you on that radio
Speaker 1: and it's like city the City, National hands down undeniable
Speaker 1: smashing record. Nobody they can escape. You know you're coming.
Speaker 1: They all know where he is coming on morning on
Speaker 1: the night, whether you requested it or not. And that's
Speaker 1: why I tell these kids, Man, that's what you want
Speaker 1: to experience, because that's why Bro send you there. He
Speaker 1: might not have an experience that because the game is
Speaker 1: so different nowadays with them. Because these kids this they
Speaker 1: ship on the radio. Y yeah, Bro, it might right you.
Speaker 1: You we need the DJs. Remember DJ's and the rapper
Speaker 1: go together. Bro. Right, it's like a center and the
Speaker 1: point guard. Like a point guard ain't ship without a
Speaker 1: good power forward or center, and they ain't ship without
Speaker 1: a good point guard. It all goes together. Bro, it's teamwork.
Speaker 1: But now because of YouTube streaming platforms, the radio is
Speaker 1: not the place where where where people discover new music
Speaker 1: from them all. No, because you don't have to go.
Speaker 1: You could just put your music to your fans where
Speaker 1: it's cool. But radio still pays the modest. Bro. Look
Speaker 1: at a publishing check, but it's like this, what's yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the company think for the digital stuff? That sound exchange? Bro,
Speaker 1: that's all digital. My sound exchange check is never not
Speaker 1: like what ass cat or be it right, because it's
Speaker 1: all radio, but sound exchange can be good if you
Speaker 1: had all the digital yeah right, So I mean I
Speaker 1: just think the feeling of having that that radio smash
Speaker 1: and you not being nobody escaping you. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just different. Different what it feels like nowadays it is
Speaker 1: like you late, you got, you got all these streams,
Speaker 1: but everybody don't even know who you are because the
Speaker 1: member the promoters ain't on Spotify, they're not on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the ship. I think. I think that's
Speaker 1: starting to change though. Look at look at and be
Speaker 1: a Young Boy. No, n be a Young Boy is
Speaker 1: a phenomenon that that's a different. Like what I say,
Speaker 1: the people start, yeah, he's anomaly, yes, they just it's
Speaker 1: just they have to set the new for the new.
Speaker 1: It's the one that pushed the envelope for everybody else
Speaker 1: to follow. Now what people follow up is because as
Speaker 1: big as what NBA did, who knows, maybe not bigger,
Speaker 1: but but they now they realize. I think that they
Speaker 1: realize now that these kids can actually be stars in
Speaker 1: their own right without the radio. But it's a difference
Speaker 1: with NBHA because remember his influence and this is just
Speaker 1: my opinion, Like I don't know too many NBA Young
Speaker 1: Boy records, but I know who the fuck NBA Young
Speaker 1: Boy is, So that means his influence is bigger than
Speaker 1: the music. More kids want to be him. I will
Speaker 1: go outside. All these niggas look like NBAH with the
Speaker 1: music resonates though the concert. No, I see the videos
Speaker 1: eight thousand in the Barclays bro in the bar, first
Speaker 1: of all, hold on, you want to talk. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know we had that many Wayians in Brooklyn's. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm looking at the videos, like where the
Speaker 1: fun I knew three or four records, everything else, going
Speaker 1: crazy world for world, some of my some of my
Speaker 1: young boys living diebox. Yeah, yeah, I know. He's just
Speaker 1: so how I relate. So what I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: that mode of of not having radio hits and and
Speaker 1: and being so strong orline it's here. No, definitely, it's definitely.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the pay is differently once they figure
Speaker 1: out how to compensate artists equally for the stream broadcasting,
Speaker 1: do nothing like you because it's no, it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm stam and get thirty five exactly. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna saying, bro, I think how many artists
Speaker 1: gonna get a billions stream? Right, it's not gonna happen
Speaker 1: for any like it's not gonna happen on the gag.
Speaker 1: The gag in that way is definitely is done. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: So just what would you what's what's your words to
Speaker 1: the generation coming behind you? What would your message beating him?
Speaker 1: Before we get up? Body? Keep going, man, keep going,
Speaker 1: take it to another level, that's right, Take whatever was
Speaker 1: already done to another level, you know, and live man, right,
Speaker 1: Just so so you know, you know, when we're young,
Speaker 1: it's just like we don't see the world where we
Speaker 1: see it now. So a lot of these young niggas
Speaker 1: they think being young is like they're gonna get award
Speaker 1: for it. Nigga, you should want to be one of
Speaker 1: these niggas one day, because the name of the game
Speaker 1: is to grow, live rugged old, not die young, Steve.
Speaker 1: Name of the game is the growth. That's a fact
Speaker 1: you should want to live. Ain't nothing more cooler than
Speaker 1: be alive? Right now? That's a fat bro. Ain't nothing
Speaker 1: more cooler than being alive? Being freaking money? Ain't nothing
Speaker 1: more cooler than that? Yo? I said all the time. Man,
Speaker 1: like I give bro, I give all the money away,
Speaker 1: so some of my homers can see the niggas that
Speaker 1: I lost as a kid, can see some of the
Speaker 1: ship out and live. You know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: give all the ship back. If imagine that I'm back,
Speaker 1: and live this shit with me and we'll go get
Speaker 1: it together. And that's what these kids better know, man,
Speaker 1: Live and live live man, they enjoyed this life. Were
Speaker 1: only here for a minute. That's it. When that number
Speaker 1: get called that it can't put that call on home,
Speaker 1: ain't no more. It ain't no I'm gonna call you back.
Speaker 1: Niggas be able to call y'all thaw you back. So
Speaker 1: so live you should. You should embrace you know, you know,
Speaker 1: further than your journey. That's right, you understand, like because
Speaker 1: that is what we're supposed to be doing anyway. That's
Speaker 1: a fact, man, that's love.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pull do. But you know, brother, man,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. And we got real Brooklyn
Speaker 1: in the building, Kobj, you know what it is. We
Speaker 1: outside man in this rock solid and we always going
Speaker 1: to be solid. And you know when you see Main
Speaker 1: he wanted the last solid niggas level out here, man,
Speaker 1: So put that respect on him and show that love.
Speaker 1: He honorary Rockefeller Member because I said so. Tell high
Speaker 1: love me man, get my shame. Yeah, baby, lay my
Speaker 1: nigga dog. Love for life, My love for life.
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