1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. Giants, get 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: out of my Giants bubble. Gim me some job. Part 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: of the Giants Podcast Network's role. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: The giants third and final preseason game is in the books. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Ten to six is the final score in favor of 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: the Jets. Is the Giants were the visiting team at 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: MetLife Stadium on Saturday night. Madeleine Burke and Paulatino here 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: with your rapid reaction in Paul, when we look at 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: how this game played out, one of the bright spots 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: we have to highlight is kJ Cloyd. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: kJ Cloyd. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Three years at Louisville, one year at Miami. Basically a 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: special teams player. I think he only had like forty 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: five tackles in his one year with the Hurricanes. 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Not known for being a big time player. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: That's why he was an undrafted rookie free agent by 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: the Vikings earlier this spring. 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: They cut him. 20 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: Giants brought him in just a battle week or so ago, 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: and what do you know, he comes out here and 22 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: he's one of those guys right who we talk about 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: all the time. How many preseason games should you have? Well, 24 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: this is a guy who's glad that there was a 25 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: third preseason game this summer, because he exploded onto the 26 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: scene with sixteen tackles, eight solos, and eight assists and 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: quite frankly, was all over the field like a missile. Now, 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to get him enough 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: of burn with the coaches to save a spot on 30 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: the fifty three. I don't know that, But what I 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: do know is this, they got to take notice. 32 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: In a preseason game, especially the third preseason game, you're 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: looking for players who jump off the field, and this 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: is a game full of players who are. 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: Trying to make a roster on a bubble. 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: You and I were in the press box watching this 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: game with former Giants linebacker Jonathan Casias, two times Super 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Bowl champion linebacker Jonathan Casias, and all Casius could say 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: was look at Cloyd out there. He was drooling over 40 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: how great that this man was playing on the field. 41 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Definitely didn't not do himself some favors. 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Well. 43 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: He showed range, he showed anticipation, he showed he could 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: play downhill and phill gaps. He even had a pass 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: non down two on pass coverage. 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: What didn't he do? Did he sell popcorn tonight? Too? 47 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but he was all 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: over the field. Now, the Giants do have some banged 49 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: up linebackers on the roster right now, we know that 50 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: could that possibly allow him to sneak into the mix. 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Again, it's awfully tough. 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: He did not have a major NC double a stat pedigree, 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: and yet what he showed tonight is that he could 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: certainly play against the Jets backups. Remember, no starters for 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: the Jets tonight on either side of the ball. The 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: Giants only had one starter take snaps, John Michael Schmidtz. 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: So this truly was the backup Bowl, if you will. 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: And what we saw is that against fellow backups, he 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: could certainly. 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Excel absolutely and did a lot for himself to stand 61 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: out on the field. Now, you mentioned John Michael Schmidz, 62 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: the only starter playing for the Giants, but he didn't 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: play the whole game because he went out with an 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: angle injury. He did say after the game he has 65 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: no concern about his own availability for Week one. He 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: says he just got rolled up on and in a 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: game like this, I'd imagine coaches are being a little 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: bit more conservative saying, hey, you know what, let's not 69 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: keep you out there if we don't have to. 70 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Two things to keep in mind about this matter, and 71 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: number one is that there is a quote bye week 72 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: between you know this game and then opening day against 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. There is a by weekend, so that 74 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: gives anybody who may have gotten a little bit tweaked 75 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: up some time to heal. The other thing to keep 76 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: in mind is that after he came out of the game, 77 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: he remained in uniform. He was on the bench, he 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: was walking around, and he was talking to his fellow 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: offensive lineman. Now I'm not a doctor, but what I 80 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: do know is this, when the trainers and the medical 81 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: staff when they're really worried about a guy, they don't 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: let him walk around on the bench after he's been 83 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: taken out. He's usually inside, he's getting examined, and they're 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: keeping him off his feet. So I think John Michael 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 3: Schmidz's self diagnosis is probably pretty good. 86 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay day comes from but citizens, 87 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: so go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country. 88 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. 89 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Are you ready for. 90 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: All that life brings? 91 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely? And you love to see that too. 92 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: There were seven guys though the Giants that were on 93 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: the injury report, seven different players. Another one of them 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: Evan Neil. He got his first playing time tonight after 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: suffering the ankle injury in last season. 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: This was his first game action. 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: He was pulled out of the game with quote an ankle, 98 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: he said after the game, though, he said, no, I 99 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: just got rolled up on as well. Head coach Brian 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Daviles said he was in there for the same allotted 101 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: snaps that we had intended to put him in there. 102 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: But for Neil, a guy who never really dealt with 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: injuries in his college career, coming back from this ankle 104 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: injury as a professional is a different hurdle for him. 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: And you know, getting his first game action tonight since 106 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: last year, Paul, what did you see. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: Going into his third professional season. His whole pro career 108 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: has been littered with injury and the frustration he's feeling 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: is immense. I mean, he was in a game tonight, 110 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: not as a starter. That's something that was very new 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: to him too, because remember he started at Alabama before 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: he got drafted by the Giants. He did give up 113 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: one sack off the edge early in the game, other 114 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: than that, I wasn't keeping a microscope on him on 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: every one of his snaps, but it looked like he 116 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: won most of his reps. I think it was a 117 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: big step in the right direction for him. Remember he 118 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: practiced a couple of times this week with the second unit, 119 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: all right, including against the Jets the other day at 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Florham Park. 121 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: And these are baby steps. 122 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: Now. 123 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, not only is. 124 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 3: He coming back off of the ankle thing, he's also 125 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: now getting onto the field for the first time under 126 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: new offensive line coach Carmen Brisilla, who now has a 127 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: chance to take this piece of clay and start molding him. 128 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: Because you and I both know, no matter how many 129 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: times Carmen Brisilla may instruct him to do that tweak 130 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: his technique, he can't do anything while he's watching film. 131 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: You gotta get out there on the field and then 132 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: in a game situation before you can put any of 133 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: that stuff to use. I would say these were baby steps, 134 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: but steps in the right direction. 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: The right direction is the direction we want this Giants 136 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: team to be heading. Absolutely now, looking at this offense 137 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: as a whole, Tommy DeVito ran the offense. He was 138 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: quarterback the entirety of the game. Davido, of course, had 139 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: started three games last year in his career in his 140 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: rookie season with the Giants. He talked about a little 141 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: bit after the game, saying, you know, it's good that 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: he's got more of a command of the offense this year, 143 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: and he's found that he can be helpful to some 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: of these other young guys, again bringing up the point 145 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: that this was a game with a lot of bubble players, 146 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: a lot of guys trying to prove something and make 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: the roster, and Davido was able to say, Okay, let 148 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: me make sure you know what this play call is. 149 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: Let me make sure you know where you got to 150 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: be out here. 151 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: But when you look at the way Tommy DeVito and 152 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: this offense executed for the Giants again unable to get 153 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: into the end zone for a touchdown, settling for two 154 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: field goals on some drives, but they were starting to 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: put together some drives. 156 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: They put together a couple of mini drives for the night, 157 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: fourteen to twenty seven for one hundred and three yards. 158 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: He also ran five times for forty eight. 159 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: I think the thing about Tommy is that you know, 160 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: he so badly wants to make a play that he 161 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: took a handful of sacks, and probably two or three 162 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: of them he'd love to have back because he could 163 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: have gotten rid of the ball. 164 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there was one series where it's three sacks 165 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: in a row and it was fourth and thirty two 166 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: and the Giants had a punt. 167 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: Yes, and he had a chance at least on one 168 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: of those to just throw the ball out of bounds 169 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: and avoid the sack. So that's certainly one thing that 170 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure he would like to clean up. I think 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: when he runs with the ball, he doesn't like to slide. Look, 172 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: you and I have both seen Daniel Jones not slide. 173 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: We saw Eli Manning get the end of his career 174 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: not really slide very well. Tommy needs to learn how 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: to slide because as it stands now, when he goes 176 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: down after making a run, you worry about him getting hurt. 177 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: And you can always duck out of bounds. If you're 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: not the sideline, you're going to be in the field 179 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: to play, and you're a fair game. A defensive player 180 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: can now hit you, and I think that's something that 181 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: he's really going to have to get a grasp on 182 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: as he moves forward. 183 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe we'll get a slip and slide 184 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: out of Giants practice. It seems to have worked on hard 185 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: knocks for the Bears, so we shall see. But other 186 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: offensive positions too, look like wide receiver and running back. 187 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: There's some competitions happening there. It was now the veteran 188 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Alan Robinson getting some interesting plays in the checkdown as well, 189 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: and then we saw from the running backs Turbo Miller 190 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: and Kelly also getting some reps. What do you see 191 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: of those competitions from this game? 192 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Alan Robinson ten years in the league. 193 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: This would be eleven if he makes the team. He's 194 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: had three thousand yard seasons now he's on. 195 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: The other side of thirty. I get that. 196 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: He doesn't play special teams. 197 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: I get that too. He's a pros pro. 198 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: He has had a couple of really great weeks recently 199 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: at training camp, which is going to help him. He's 200 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: the grandpappy in the wide receiver room with a bunch 201 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: of young guys who could really use some tutelage. 202 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: I got to tell you. 203 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Tyler Nubin, rookie safety out of Minnesota, went up to 204 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: him early in training camp and said, hey, man, I 205 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: had your photo as my screen favor on my phone. 206 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: Growing up, I was a big fan. So yeah, he 207 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: is the veteran. 208 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: And it shows how much they all respect him. You 209 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: just mentioned a defensive player, right right. 210 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. 211 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of value in having Alan Robinson 212 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: on this team. Again, though, he doesn't play specials, and 213 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: when you get that deep on the receiver depth chart, 214 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: you usually like to get a guy who plays special 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: so I'm. 216 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Not sure how this is going to go for him. 217 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: I thought what was interesting. 218 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: Though, today is that they ran a reverse end around 219 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: with him. Now, usually you will run those with slot receivers, 220 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: little quick, mosquito kind of guys who just start and 221 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: have great quicks. You don't usually run them with a 222 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: six foot two plus receiver who doesn't have great speed. 223 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: But they did it with him and he. 224 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Got positive yardage, not to mention the nice catch made 225 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: on the sideline. 226 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm an Alan Robinson guy. I hope he makes it. 227 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Madeline, you love turf. 228 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: You're good at it, So you start a turf bus 229 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: business grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated name 230 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: in turf. 231 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: Are you ready for all that life brings. 232 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, especially in an offense that requires your skill position 233 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: players to be able to play all skill positions should 234 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: so if you can play the X to Z, the 235 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: wide spot all that, then that is more beneficial. And 236 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: putting him in those scenarios and seeing that he can 237 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: do that probably did well for him as well well. 238 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: And I also think the other receivers that you may 239 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: be looking at the back of the depth shot. 240 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: Giles had one really nice. 241 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: Catch, but then had a couple that he wished he 242 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: could have had and didn't have. Didn't help himself there 243 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: Ford Wheaton didn't necessarily have any production tonight either. So 244 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: those are some of the guys there on the back 245 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: end that when you look at it, it's going to 246 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: be like, well, how do we balance this out? 247 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Robinson won the job tonight, right. 248 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: We shall see, because of course Tuesday at four pm 249 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: and rosters have to be down to fifty three. 250 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: And you know, we talked. 251 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: About some of the competitions on the offensive side of 252 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: the ball, We talked about some of the different competitions 253 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. But these running backs, 254 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: especially Dante Mileos, Joshua Kelly, that's another competition will keep 255 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: an eye on. 256 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Well are they going to keep four running backs or three? 257 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I think they'd love to keep four, 258 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: but I don't know if they can. You know, they've 259 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: got other positions where they're going to want to add 260 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: a guy and do you steal one. Look, if they 261 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: keep Tommy DeVito as the third quarterback, which I think. 262 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: They will, that's one less somewhere else. 263 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: So Dantae Miller are fourteen carries for forty five yards today, 264 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: played mostly in the first half. Joshua Kelly, the former 265 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: UCLA player who played with the Chargers for four years, 266 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: had eight carries for forty yards and he was only signed. 267 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: About a week or so ago. Right, So, you know. 268 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: These guys are saying to themselves, well, could I maybe 269 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: be that number four? We know who the top three 270 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: guys are, but the problem for them is that they 271 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: may not be competing for a job because maybe the 272 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: Giants only decide they're going to keep three. This is 273 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 3: where the bubble gets really, really interesting because it's not 274 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: necessarily the guy you're competing with, it's the roster spot 275 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: you're competing with that could be coming from some other room. 276 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: Right absolutely, And Brian Dable kind of said, hey, I 277 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 2: respect the question, but we're not in the point of 278 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: yet evaluating how many of each position we're getting. We're 279 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: going to go through that tomorrow, have some meetings leading 280 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: into Tuesday when those decisions will be made. Of course, 281 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: Tuesday rosters have to be cut to fifty three and 282 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: then the practice squad can be formed after that on Wednesday, 283 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: the sixteen man practice squad. So we'll see if some 284 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: of these players get stuck through to the practice squad, 285 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: if who makes the fifty three man roster, and of 286 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: course that will also be in flux after the cuts 287 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: are made. 288 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: And you see who else is available around the. 289 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: League, Well, I'll give you somebody else on defense besides 290 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: Cloyd Brenton Whitley, right, Okay, we just talked to him 291 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: in the locker room. How to sack and half again tonight? 292 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: I had one, I think it was last week in 293 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: practice of the back of the JEP drug. If you're 294 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: looking at the edge linebackers besides Thibodeau obviously in Burns 295 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: who was starting right, and then you got your backups 296 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: Boogie Bashiam and Azizo JULYI. 297 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Okay, now, if they keep a fifth. Who's the fifth 298 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: going to be? Well? 299 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: Whitley has probably been the most productive with the most 300 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: flash plays during camp and the preseason. 301 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: And in his third NFL season as well. 302 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: He's got experience, no question, and he's got a heck 303 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: of an attitude too. He is a real go getter 304 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: and he understands anything I can do, including kickoff return. 305 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: So you know you're looking at a. 306 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: Guy like him, you'll look at at well, what are 307 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: you gonna do with Tom on Fox, who also, by 308 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: the way, how to sack tonight younger player, but probably 309 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: didn't flash as much as Whitley did during the course 310 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: of the summer. So maybe Whitley sneaks on as the 311 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: fifth edge guy. 312 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: We got to see we shall see. 313 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: Lots of questions that will be answered in the coming days. 314 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Until then, make sure to stay tuned to Giants dot Com, 315 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: Giant Social Media, and all the Giants digital platforms the 316 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: latest Big Blue news, and make sure to follow all 317 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: the Giants podcasts wherever you get your podcasts. From the 318 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: third and final preseason game, Final Score Jets ten Giants 319 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: six with Paul Detino, I'm Madeline Burke. 320 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: We'll see you next time.