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Every 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.640 single week we come back here to go back in 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.839 time with the creator of content between of the stream 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.360 ran scene. So when we go back in time, my 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:52.240 twenty five again, well my age backwards? Well you'd be 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.280 I think like forty eight, maybe forty eight, wonderful, forty nine, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.560 oh forty nine, okay, I remember it, well, last two 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.160 and a half years or so. Oh okay, not a problem. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.720 Not all the way back, not a way back, playback. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.240 There's a podcast with that name already, so is there. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.240 Oh okay, Well, I'm sure they're lovely. We can't we 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.560 can't steal that. No, I don't steal anything. I'm an 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:20.279 original creator, That's what I do. But for these segments, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.560 I have no input because the chad Ster just picks 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.600 what he wants and never tells me. So enlighten us, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.520 because I am with the fans. That's technically not true. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.840 I did tell you this when we were together last weekend. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.560 I did say I don't listen to you, so I forget. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.920 That's perfectly all right, as long as I remembered. We 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.840 are going to go back and look at a Patreon 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.600 exclusive episode which these were originally aired on Francine's Patreon 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.600 channel Patreon dot com slash franccene podcast. We are going 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.600 to go back and look at your wrestling firsts. Oh, yes, 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.239 I do, I do remember now, Okay, okay, for we're 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.360 talking not your uh, you know, first dance at your 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.040 you know, your your school as a kid, or your 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.239 first boyfriend or your first kiss. We're not talking to 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.520 any of those first. Wrestling first, Oh, it's so loved 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:15.919 back then, okay, okay, wrestling first, yes, so a wrestling 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:21.400 first can be debut, first match, first impressions of the business. Uh, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.080 first time, yeah, met so and so blah blah blah. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.600 Have you encountered any wrestling first in the last few 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:35.240 years that you didn't encounter during your career? Hmmm? Yeah, 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.960 when the guy gave me an eggplant as a gift, 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.520 that was a first in my life. First. That's the 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.680 first because they use the eggplant emojis as a penis, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.320 don't they they do it. It took me a while 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.800 to figure out it was an eggplant, But yeah, so 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.320 is there a connection with that gentleman giving me an 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.640 egg plant is not like in is he insinuating like, hey, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.520 here's my egg plant? Would you like my real? Like? 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.040 He might he might might have. I don't know. I 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.480 have a feeling that people that use that emoji are 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.680 like over compensating. They might not be the size of 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.440 an eggplan. Egg plant could be pretty big. I would 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.600 use a zucchini if I was a guy. Why an eggplant? 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.200 Like an eggplane? It's like really fat on the end, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.400 and then it comes really skinny in the front, like 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.919 use a nice size zucchini. And then the peach is 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.360 that the butthole is a vagin? No, that's the vagina. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.920 It's a vagina. Okay, yes, butthole. I don't know that's 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.600 what the poopy emoji's for. I don't know. But anyway, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.320 what text conversations do you have? Girl? Uh? No? I 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.000 see what the kids are writing, and I'm like, maybe 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:46.560 I would do that a little different. Maybe I would 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.600 use different emojis, But that has nothing to do with 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:54.600 this podcast right now. No, it doesn't here. So Wrestling First, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.800 To be honest with you, I know we recorded, there's 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.760 a long time ago, and I don't remember what I 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:04.360 said at all. So I'm listening to it like it's 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.840 the first time, just like the rest of you. Probably. Oh, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.760 it's another wrestling first. It's your first time listening back 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.840 to you talking about your first time. Yeah, can you 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.479 imagine that? I don't remember anything that's a first. My 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.640 memory sharp as attack. I can't believe that it's the 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.960 first time. That's the first time I've heard that on 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.520 these airwaves. It'll be the last two because I'm lying 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.480 through my team. Let me ask you one that I 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.919 don't think we asked on the air. I think you 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.200 know you talk about your like, you know, the first 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.279 event that you did with the nine to one one 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.960 choke slam. You talk about that, talk about training, talking 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.440 about those things. Do you remember like the first time 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.680 you got like really potatoed, like just didn't expect it 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.320 and ouch, holy crap, that was live And I can't 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.240 believe that hurt like in the ring, in the ring, 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.560 not not like in training where it happens in the 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.480 ring and you didn't expect it. Well, I mean there 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.200 was the bam bam thing where my pelvis was broken. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.039 I didn't know what. We didn't call the spot. So 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.159 when he he all he told me was when we 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.840 get out there, I'll do something to you. That's all 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.719 he said. There you go. And I had no idea 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.839 what he was going to do, but it was bammer 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.880 and I trusted him, so I'm just like, yeah, I'll 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.279 just go with the flow, you know. And I had 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.640 no idea he was going to press me and just 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.840 throw me to the side like and you know, it 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.080 happened within five seconds, but as I'm falling it, you know, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.880 it felt like twenty thirty in slow motion. My brain 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.320 is going, how do I turn my like, how do 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.000 I land? You know, because I had just gotten my 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.880 breast implants. Yes, just so agreed that I was, yeah, 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.760 I was going to rupture one of them. I had 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.560 them for like a month, and this was I think 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.600 this might have been like, I don't know, one of 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.279 the first bumps or I was just scared I was 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.159 gonna rupture them. So that was very unexpected to me. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.080 Terry Funk slapping me in the face. That was not 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.320 a called spot. I did not know where that came from. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.360 And it hurt like an effort, and you know, like 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:19.800 that took my breath away because he slaps really hard. Also, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.120 Anthony Duranty gave me a clothesline to the outside and 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.840 he literally hit me right in the middle where the 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.000 Adams Apple is and he closed my throat so I 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.320 could not breathe. And I didn't tell anybody, but I 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.320 ran to the back and I was gasping for air 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.480 in the corner because I was I was also crying 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.040 because I think I might have hit my head on 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.480 the concrete. You know, didn't expect that. I thought he 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.000 would have taken care of me a little one, a 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.000 little lower, hit me in the chest, but he got 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.720 me right and throat. Little things like that happen. What 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.440 can you do? You take the go with the bag, okay, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.520 And those are first So the first time you got 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.880 bitch slapped in the room, Terry funk he thought of 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.640 a bit. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yes, espectually I forget that. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.960 Oh my god, was how was it? Are you okay? 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.320 I was like that was great, Terry, Thank you so much. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.040 Sidebar Have you seen the picture of him that surfaced 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.000 this last week? I retweeted it. Yes you did, Yes, 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.000 I did, said attention to my Twitter account. Maybe you 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.480 would know. I see it. I mean I saw it 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.480 a hundred times. But it's just sad to see the funkers. Yeah, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.080 you know, I still think he would get out of 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.040 his chair and slap the crap out of whoever who 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.600 was it. I was gonna say, Gino Hernandez, but he's dead, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.600 Mandy Fernandez. You think he'd think it's nineteen eighty eight 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.680 and just see, I don't know where his memory is, like, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.280 is he you know, I don't know much. Is it dementia? 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.160 Is he forgetting or is he thinking that he's in 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.560 another decade like that? I don't know. I don't know 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.160 if he has dementia. Is it Alzheimer's or is it dementia? 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.520 I don't know. I'm not sure. What's Take your pick, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.960 which one would you want? I wouldn't want either. So exactly, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.480 we pray for the Funker and he's a great man, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:08.600 and you know, age is a factor. Plus banging your 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.400 head over and over again does not help matters. And 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:17.280 that's what's very scary about professional wrestling is you decline 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:22.320 quicker than the average man. So well, that's a very 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.480 sad way to end this flashback. But I'm so sorry. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.840 Well you brought it up. I did. It was my fault. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.120 It was the first time I made the mood change. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.480 Wait to go, h But we'll get over to the 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 flashback now. If you want to follow me, it's at 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.880 Chad E and B on Twitter. On Instagram, it's at 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.440 IB Exclusives, and go to Patreon. It's patreon dot com, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.720 slash franccene podcasts, and if you want to follow me 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.880 across the bord on social media, you can find me 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:56.600 at E C W franccene and enjoy the episode. And Francie, 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.880 I want to talk about some firsts if we can 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.400 this week depends on what kind of first we're talking 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:06.920 about shad wrestling related first. Okay, I'll do that, sure. So, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.720 coming off our episode that we had with Selena de Laurenta, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.760 I say, you got to say it quick like that. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.840 You can't like, you know, you can't fail in the 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.840 pronunciation of the name, because then you lose the you know, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.760 the the Latin flavor of it. But with her being 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.440 so young and in the business. I always just try 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.640 to think about, you know, what's going through her head 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.080 coming in because it is such a different industry than 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.600 it was in the mid nineties. So drawing parallels to 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.920 you is kind of easy in some ways, but then 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.480 in other ways it's not. But I want to kind 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.200 of go back into the early days of your career. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.640 Let's talk about some first in the wrestling business for you. Well, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:50.000 let's see, I said this before I was twenty. When 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:55.640 I started, I had no experience whatsoever. The only wrestlers 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.600 I ever met were through that WrestleMania party that I won, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:03.120 which is awesome. Yeah, that story. Even today, I'm just like, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.640 how the hell did that happen? I honestly don't think 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.760 anybody else entered the contest. I think I was the 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.880 only one that entered, to be honest, because I think 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.520 I even won first place. Like there was a grand 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.040 prize and then there was a first place yeah, and 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.559 they sent me a first place gift and then the 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.959 great See. I used to fall for all those little 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.320 things that they do in the magazine and all that stuff, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:32.120 but I never got diddly squat. So this wasn't in 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.360 a magazine. This was on the video Jukebox network. This 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.640 was a legit then that could be you. You're the 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.400 only one. Yeah, the loan entry. But I'm saying I 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.000 used to fall for all their work things that they 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.680 used to put out. Yeah, you know, live Wire, the 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.600 call and show. I'd call every week. I try to 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.520 get it in. You can ever get Oh yeah, yeah, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:57.520 well but that so first. So yeah, I I I'll 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.439 ask you to first if you want. Yeah, I know, yeah, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.880 because I'm like, I think I was the first girl 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.200 to get through a table. Okay, that's what you're referring 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.840 to me. I could ask something that easy, but you know, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.520 oh no, then explain. Okay, So here we are, right, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.640 So you're so you're twenty years old. Yeah, you're walking 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:19.160 into ECW. You're walking. Yeah, you're walking into the lines 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.880 and exactly from the frying pan outside, you know, in 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.840 the heat, probably into the fryer the inside of the 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:30.240 ECW arena being hot as as eighties. But who's the 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.760 first person you met when you walk through the door? Uh, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.880 at the arena or just getting my foot in in 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.000 the arena, you walked through the doors of the arena 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.000 for the first time, was the first person you met, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.880 or who's the first person that stands out that you met. Well, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.400 h God, you're gonna think this is crazy. I don't 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.520 remember a lot. I don't know if it's because I 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.320 hit my head and had like a concussion. There are 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.600 things that I cannot remember. I don't remember buildings. I 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.760 forget spots unless somebody says, go on YouTube and look 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.920 this up. It's so weird, like, I don't remember a 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.520 lot of things. I don't remember. The only thing I 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.280 remember about one of my first times at the arena 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.640 was meeting Sherry Martel. Right, we've talked that one. Yeah, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.320 And I thought I met Shane at the arena for 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.640 the first time, but he swears we met in New York, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.720 so he might be right and I might be wrong. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:28.720 I remember meeting Paul. I'm pretty sure it was that pulsation. No, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.680 I'm sorry, Montgomeryville. That's the first night I remember meeting 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.120 Paul was when I got choke slammed on that house 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.320 show by al Okay, so that's my first meeting with Paul. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.360 I met JT because he was my trainer, So of 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.160 course when I went in there, I went to JT 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.640 because he was a familiar face. But I didn't really 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.280 know too many people, you know, so you kind of 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:59.080 and and I remember some people told me like stay 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.320 out of people's way, like don't you know, don't be 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.120 very vocal and stay out of people's way. So I 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.360 would read a book and then I got heat for 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.760 reading a book. I remember Sandman screaming at me, get 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.480 in front of the monitor, put your book away, And 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.200 I'm just like, well, who am I supposed to listen to? 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.480 You know? So I put my book away and I 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.720 got sat in front of the monitor, and you know, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.360 I didn't want to step on anybody's toes, like I 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.800 didn't know what was the right thing to do because 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:31.160 no one taught me etiquette. I didn't have someone that 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.800 I can ask questions to, like a like a big 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.800 sister in the business. I didn't have anybody. No no 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.000 one helped me. Nobody took that role. That's why I 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.160 try to help Selena when I can, because yeah, yeah, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.520 because I didn't. There was no one for me to 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.400 go to. I had no one, literally, and so I 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.560 just tell her, if you need any help, please don't hesitate, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.000 call me, ask me if you're confused, if you you know, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.880 I don't know all the answers, but if I can 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.720 help you, I definitely will because I don't like that 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.840 feeling of being lonely right not knowing what's going on. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.600 So if I could help somebody, I would love to. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.320 So the first bump you took is the choke slam, correct, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.760 that's the first, the first big bump I ever took 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:22.080 and didn't even know what it was. You didn't know 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.000 where you were going. I didn't know what it was. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.080 And I remember and Paul was just like, what, you 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:27.760 don't want to do it? And I go, no, I'll 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.400 do it. I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.120 do because I didn't go over that in wrestling school, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.640 like they weren't choke slamming me. I was trying to 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.800 do like rolls and you know, run the ropes and 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.800 stuff like that, like they didn't. They didn't choke slam me. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.280 So I wasn't really sure what it was. And you 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.520 gotta remember too, I was a WWF fan, and you know, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.760 a lot of the moves that we did, they weren't 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.360 attempting any of all kind of but they put the 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.560 ladies on top of literal like pedestals and they were like, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:04.680 don't tell. Yeah, they didn't do much with them. So 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.640 I just said and and Paul said, don't worry, He'll 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.880 just grab you. Okay. So my cue was being grabbed 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.240 by my hair being drugged over the table. Because I 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:19.840 was at the announcing table. I was the timekeeper and 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.480 I didn't even know how. I said, am I supposed 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.280 to really timekeep? I didn't even know what the hell 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.960 was going on? You know, I'm bringing the bell for them. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.400 I ranging the bell. They told me when they ring 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.880 the bell, and then he yeah, I'll just literally just 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.560 grabbed me, threw me down and it was just like 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.560 white noise. It was just like a gasp and then silence. 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.000 And then I'm just laying there like is that good? 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.480 Is that bad? What's going on? I don't even know? So, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.840 uh yeah, that was the first first thing I did. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:47.920 So I got a first for you. So we've seen 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.320 beyond the mat most of the wrestling fans out there, 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.920 and we're seeing Paul's speech where they're they we've seen 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.800 the image of you backstage during the speech and you 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.760 kind of you know, there's the motions are flowing. ECW's 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.480 first pay per view. What are your memories of Barely Legal? 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.280 Oh gosh, I was scared out of my gore. I 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.760 was so scared and I just I remember just telling 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.280 Shane like I'm gonna throw up and wouldn't throw up 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.000 and he's like, you're not gonna throw up. I was like, dude, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.840 I'm really gonna throw up. And then that like Paul 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.320 saw me freaking out, and that's when the scene in 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.640 the movie where he pulled me to the side, and 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.280 what you didn't see was him telling me, like, what 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.399 is making you so nervous? And I said the fact 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.760 that we're live because we never we were live to tape, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.520 you know, and we never were live live. And yeah, 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.520 I said, Paul, what if I mess up? And he goes, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.520 do you ever mess up? I go, couldn't there be 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.440 a first time? And he's just like, you got this, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.840 because Paul is very dramatic and theatrical, and he's just 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.520 looking at me, you got this. And I'm like, oh, dad, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.240 just cry And I literally thought I was gonna throw 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.560 my guts up. It was just the nerves. My nerves 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.240 were so bad, so bad. But my nerves were always 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.200 bad though, Like I always felt sick before I walked 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.639 through the curtain, and then once I went through, I 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.359 kind of composed myself, you know, but my mind was 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.960 always turned. I'm always thinking of the next spot that's 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.600 you know, going on in the ring or and I 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.159 said before like I tried to. I tried to know 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.040 five or six spots ahead of mine what was going on, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.520 just in case there was a misstep or something, where 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.439 like I could be helpful to the guys if something 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.640 messed up there, I you know, know what to do. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.879 And so I tried. I always tried to listen to 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:40.720 the complete match and just retain as much information as 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.359 I could. But yeah, I was a bundle of nerves 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.639 that night. And then even if you ask Shane like 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.880 it wasn't it wasn't the best match on the card, right, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.800 you know. And then we had a talk of Missinoku 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.560 just blew out of the water. We were just like, oh, okay, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.880 that's great. You know, so you live in your own east. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.600 How about this one? How about ECW's first musical CD. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.919 You were shared on the back cover, so I was 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.000 trying to think maybe first piece of merchandise whatever. But 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.399 the CD was a big deal because everybody knew the 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.840 music of ECW was really what helped set the vibe 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.240 of ECW. What do you think about being on the 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.160 the the the back cover of the first ever ECW CD? 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:30.040 Is it hold on? That one's the one? Yeah? That one? 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.960 Extreme music by various artists. How all right? This is 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.520 how smart I am. So I made the cover of 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.480 that one, right, And then the music label gave out swag. 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.520 I'm not sure if it was the same music label 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.960 that did the second one, not really sure, but they 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.360 gave out swag and they gave out these shirts and 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.439 uh it had their label on the shirts, right, And 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.000 I said, I'm gonna wear their sh shirt and I'll 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.560 get my picture taken in it, and I'm gonna get 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.680 on the on the second the second CD as well, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:12.560 And I did because to put their shirt on. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.280 I put them over with their shirt and I made 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.080 I made both of the covers of the CDs. But 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.000 that's perfect though. But the first one, yeah you sad, 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.720 bad boy over and you're on the backside the track listing. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.119 Which funny story about that. So where I used to 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.760 live in New Jersey, there was a music store downtown 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.359 and my grandmother would go into that town every weekend 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.040 to get her hair done and you know, go shopping, 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.720 so when you know, just asking what you want for Christmas? 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.040 And I am so being a huge mark at the 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.680 time one of the U CW music CD, not knowing 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.000 what the cover looked like at the time, so then 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.920 all I could picture was my seventy seven year old 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.080 grandma buying The Sandman wrapped up in barbed wire, bringing 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.240 it up to the counter at the music store, and 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:56.919 You're like, yeah, I like to buy this. They're probably 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:02.120 like looking at it, like, ok old, yeah, go. Wasn't 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.320 that the one where when you opened it up it 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.080 had all of our pictures over the songs and it 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.480 gave a quote I think, So I haven't looked at 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.080 it in years. Yeah. Well, if I had a copy 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.920 in front of me, I would laugh my hands off 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.719 because my quote was not from me. And I was like, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.080 I like to spread oil all over my cam body. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.720 And I'm like, what the friend who wrote this was 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.399 that ship? Was that Shane over there and being like 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.040 and this is what I want you to say, say 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.840 say this for her? No, that was probably I don't 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.680 I think it was Paul. Actually, I don't know who 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.879 wrote it. But I remember getting this dad and I 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.320 was like, oh, this is cool. Then I opened it 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.560 up and I was like, oh my god, this is mortified. 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:44.119 Who wrote that? I didn't say that, but no, but 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:45.960 it was nice to be you know, it was nice 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.800 to be featured. Yeah I was. I was thrilled to 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.240 be on it. Yeah, it was it was something good 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.600 that happened. To think there's any anything else first wise, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:55.879