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It's 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: the Eyes up Here flat back on the Creative Control Network. 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: You didn't know by. My name is chad In. Every 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: single week we come back here to go back in 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: time with the creator of content between of the stream 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: ran scene. So when we go back in time, my 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty five again, well my age backwards? Well you'd be 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: I think like forty eight, maybe forty eight, wonderful, forty nine, 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: oh forty nine, okay, I remember it, well, last two 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: and a half years or so. Oh okay, not a problem. 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Not all the way back, not a way back, playback. 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: There's a podcast with that name already, so is there. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, I'm sure they're lovely. We can't we 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: can't steal that. No, I don't steal anything. I'm an 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,279 Speaker 1: original creator, That's what I do. But for these segments, 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I have no input because the chad Ster just picks 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: what he wants and never tells me. So enlighten us, 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: because I am with the fans. That's technically not true. 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I did tell you this when we were together last weekend. 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I did say I don't listen to you, so I forget. 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: That's perfectly all right, as long as I remembered. We 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: are going to go back and look at a Patreon 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: exclusive episode which these were originally aired on Francine's Patreon 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: channel Patreon dot com slash franccene podcast. We are going 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: to go back and look at your wrestling firsts. Oh, yes, 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: I do, I do remember now, Okay, okay, for we're 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: talking not your uh, you know, first dance at your 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, your your school as a kid, or your 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: first boyfriend or your first kiss. We're not talking to 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: any of those first. Wrestling first, Oh, it's so loved 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: back then, okay, okay, wrestling first, yes, so a wrestling 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: first can be debut, first match, first impressions of the business. Uh, 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: first time, yeah, met so and so blah blah blah. 56 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Have you encountered any wrestling first in the last few 57 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: years that you didn't encounter during your career? Hmmm? Yeah, 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: when the guy gave me an eggplant as a gift, 59 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: that was a first in my life. First. That's the 60 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: first because they use the eggplant emojis as a penis, 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: don't they they do it. It took me a while 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to figure out it was an eggplant, But yeah, so 63 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: is there a connection with that gentleman giving me an 64 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: egg plant is not like in is he insinuating like, hey, 65 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: here's my egg plant? Would you like my real? Like? 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: He might he might might have. I don't know. I 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: have a feeling that people that use that emoji are 68 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: like over compensating. They might not be the size of 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: an eggplan. Egg plant could be pretty big. I would 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: use a zucchini if I was a guy. Why an eggplant? 71 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Like an eggplane? It's like really fat on the end, 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and then it comes really skinny in the front, like 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: use a nice size zucchini. And then the peach is 74 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: that the butthole is a vagin? No, that's the vagina. 75 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: It's a vagina. Okay, yes, butthole. I don't know that's 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: what the poopy emoji's for. I don't know. But anyway, 77 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: what text conversations do you have? Girl? Uh? No? I 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: see what the kids are writing, and I'm like, maybe 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I would do that a little different. Maybe I would 80 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: use different emojis, But that has nothing to do with 81 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: this podcast right now. No, it doesn't here. So Wrestling First, 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I know we recorded, there's 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I don't remember what I 84 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: said at all. So I'm listening to it like it's 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: the first time, just like the rest of you. Probably. Oh, 86 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: it's another wrestling first. It's your first time listening back 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: to you talking about your first time. Yeah, can you 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: imagine that? I don't remember anything that's a first. My 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: memory sharp as attack. I can't believe that it's the 90 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: first time. That's the first time I've heard that on 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: these airwaves. It'll be the last two because I'm lying 92 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: through my team. Let me ask you one that I 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: don't think we asked on the air. I think you 94 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: know you talk about your like, you know, the first 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: event that you did with the nine to one one 96 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: choke slam. You talk about that, talk about training, talking 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: about those things. Do you remember like the first time 98 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: you got like really potatoed, like just didn't expect it 99 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: and ouch, holy crap, that was live And I can't 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: believe that hurt like in the ring, in the ring, 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: not not like in training where it happens in the 102 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: ring and you didn't expect it. Well, I mean there 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: was the bam bam thing where my pelvis was broken. 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: I didn't know what. We didn't call the spot. So 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: when he he all he told me was when we 106 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: get out there, I'll do something to you. That's all 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: he said. There you go. And I had no idea 108 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: what he was going to do, but it was bammer 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: and I trusted him, so I'm just like, yeah, I'll 110 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: just go with the flow, you know. And I had 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: no idea he was going to press me and just 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: throw me to the side like and you know, it 113 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: happened within five seconds, but as I'm falling it, you know, 114 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: it felt like twenty thirty in slow motion. My brain 115 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: is going, how do I turn my like, how do 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I land? You know, because I had just gotten my 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: breast implants. Yes, just so agreed that I was, yeah, 118 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I was going to rupture one of them. I had 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: them for like a month, and this was I think 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: this might have been like, I don't know, one of 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: the first bumps or I was just scared I was 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: gonna rupture them. So that was very unexpected to me. 123 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Terry Funk slapping me in the face. That was not 124 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: a called spot. I did not know where that came from. 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: And it hurt like an effort, and you know, like 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: that took my breath away because he slaps really hard. Also, 127 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Duranty gave me a clothesline to the outside and 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: he literally hit me right in the middle where the 129 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Adams Apple is and he closed my throat so I 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: could not breathe. And I didn't tell anybody, but I 131 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: ran to the back and I was gasping for air 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: in the corner because I was I was also crying 133 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: because I think I might have hit my head on 134 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the concrete. You know, didn't expect that. I thought he 135 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: would have taken care of me a little one, a 136 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: little lower, hit me in the chest, but he got 137 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: me right and throat. Little things like that happen. What 138 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: can you do? You take the go with the bag, okay, 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: And those are first So the first time you got 140 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: bitch slapped in the room, Terry funk he thought of 141 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yes, espectually I forget that. 142 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, was how was it? Are you okay? 143 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I was like that was great, Terry, Thank you so much. 144 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Sidebar Have you seen the picture of him that surfaced 145 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: this last week? I retweeted it. Yes you did, Yes, 146 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I did, said attention to my Twitter account. Maybe you 147 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: would know. I see it. I mean I saw it 148 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: a hundred times. But it's just sad to see the funkers. Yeah, 149 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, I still think he would get out of 150 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: his chair and slap the crap out of whoever who 151 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: was it. I was gonna say, Gino Hernandez, but he's dead, 152 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Mandy Fernandez. You think he'd think it's nineteen eighty eight 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: and just see, I don't know where his memory is, like, 154 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: is he you know, I don't know much. Is it dementia? 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Is he forgetting or is he thinking that he's in 156 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: another decade like that? I don't know. I don't know 157 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: if he has dementia. Is it Alzheimer's or is it dementia? 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure. What's Take your pick, 159 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: which one would you want? I wouldn't want either. So exactly, 160 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: we pray for the Funker and he's a great man, 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know, age is a factor. Plus banging your 162 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: head over and over again does not help matters. And 163 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that's what's very scary about professional wrestling is you decline 164 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: quicker than the average man. So well, that's a very 165 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: sad way to end this flashback. But I'm so sorry. 166 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: Well you brought it up. I did. It was my fault. 167 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: It was the first time I made the mood change. 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Wait to go, h But we'll get over to the 169 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: flashback now. If you want to follow me, it's at 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Chad E and B on Twitter. On Instagram, it's at 171 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: IB Exclusives, and go to Patreon. It's patreon dot com, 172 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: slash franccene podcasts, and if you want to follow me 173 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: across the bord on social media, you can find me 174 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: at E C W franccene and enjoy the episode. And Francie, 175 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk about some firsts if we can 176 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: this week depends on what kind of first we're talking 177 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: about shad wrestling related first. Okay, I'll do that, sure. So, 178 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: coming off our episode that we had with Selena de Laurenta, 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I say, you got to say it quick like that. 180 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: You can't like, you know, you can't fail in the 181 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: pronunciation of the name, because then you lose the you know, 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the the Latin flavor of it. But with her being 183 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: so young and in the business. I always just try 184 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: to think about, you know, what's going through her head 185 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: coming in because it is such a different industry than 186 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: it was in the mid nineties. So drawing parallels to 187 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: you is kind of easy in some ways, but then 188 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: in other ways it's not. But I want to kind 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: of go back into the early days of your career. 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some first in the wrestling business for you. Well, 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: let's see, I said this before I was twenty. When 192 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: I started, I had no experience whatsoever. The only wrestlers 193 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: I ever met were through that WrestleMania party that I won, 194 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: which is awesome. Yeah, that story. Even today, I'm just like, 195 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: how the hell did that happen? I honestly don't think 196 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: anybody else entered the contest. I think I was the 197 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: only one that entered, to be honest, because I think 198 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I even won first place. Like there was a grand 199 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: prize and then there was a first place yeah, and 200 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: they sent me a first place gift and then the 201 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: great See. I used to fall for all those little 202 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: things that they do in the magazine and all that stuff, 203 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: but I never got diddly squat. So this wasn't in 204 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: a magazine. This was on the video Jukebox network. This 205 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: was a legit then that could be you. You're the 206 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, the loan entry. But I'm saying I 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: used to fall for all their work things that they 208 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: used to put out. Yeah, you know, live Wire, the 209 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: call and show. I'd call every week. I try to 210 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: get it in. You can ever get Oh yeah, yeah, 211 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: well but that so first. So yeah, I I I'll 212 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: ask you to first if you want. Yeah, I know, yeah, 213 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I think I was the first girl 214 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: to get through a table. Okay, that's what you're referring 215 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: to me. I could ask something that easy, but you know, 216 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: oh no, then explain. Okay, So here we are, right, 217 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: So you're so you're twenty years old. Yeah, you're walking 218 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: into ECW. You're walking. Yeah, you're walking into the lines 219 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: and exactly from the frying pan outside, you know, in 220 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: the heat, probably into the fryer the inside of the 221 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: ECW arena being hot as as eighties. But who's the 222 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: first person you met when you walk through the door? Uh, 223 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: at the arena or just getting my foot in in 224 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: the arena, you walked through the doors of the arena 225 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: for the first time, was the first person you met, 226 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: or who's the first person that stands out that you met. Well, 227 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: h God, you're gonna think this is crazy. I don't 228 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: remember a lot. I don't know if it's because I 229 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: hit my head and had like a concussion. There are 230 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: things that I cannot remember. I don't remember buildings. I 231 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: forget spots unless somebody says, go on YouTube and look 232 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: this up. It's so weird, like, I don't remember a 233 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of things. I don't remember. The only thing I 234 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: remember about one of my first times at the arena 235 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: was meeting Sherry Martel. Right, we've talked that one. Yeah, 236 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: And I thought I met Shane at the arena for 237 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: the first time, but he swears we met in New York, 238 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: so he might be right and I might be wrong. 239 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I remember meeting Paul. I'm pretty sure it was that pulsation. No, 240 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Montgomeryville. That's the first night I remember meeting 241 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Paul was when I got choke slammed on that house 242 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: show by al Okay, so that's my first meeting with Paul. 243 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I met JT because he was my trainer, So of 244 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: course when I went in there, I went to JT 245 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: because he was a familiar face. But I didn't really 246 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: know too many people, you know, so you kind of 247 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: and and I remember some people told me like stay 248 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: out of people's way, like don't you know, don't be 249 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: very vocal and stay out of people's way. So I 250 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: would read a book and then I got heat for 251 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: reading a book. I remember Sandman screaming at me, get 252 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: in front of the monitor, put your book away, And 253 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, who am I supposed to listen to? 254 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: You know? So I put my book away and I 255 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: got sat in front of the monitor, and you know, 256 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want to step on anybody's toes, like I 257 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: didn't know what was the right thing to do because 258 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: no one taught me etiquette. I didn't have someone that 259 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: I can ask questions to, like a like a big 260 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: sister in the business. I didn't have anybody. No no 261 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: one helped me. Nobody took that role. That's why I 262 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: try to help Selena when I can, because yeah, yeah, 263 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't. There was no one for me to 264 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: go to. I had no one, literally, and so I 265 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: just tell her, if you need any help, please don't hesitate, 266 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: call me, ask me if you're confused, if you you know, 267 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know all the answers, but if I can 268 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: help you, I definitely will because I don't like that 269 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: feeling of being lonely right not knowing what's going on. 270 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: So if I could help somebody, I would love to. 271 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: So the first bump you took is the choke slam, correct, Yeah, yeah, 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: that's the first, the first big bump I ever took 273 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: and didn't even know what it was. You didn't know 274 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: where you were going. I didn't know what it was. 275 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: And I remember and Paul was just like, what, you 276 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: don't want to do it? And I go, no, I'll 277 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: do it. I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to 278 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: do because I didn't go over that in wrestling school, 279 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: like they weren't choke slamming me. I was trying to 280 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: do like rolls and you know, run the ropes and 281 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that, like they didn't. They didn't choke slam me. 282 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: So I wasn't really sure what it was. And you 283 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: gotta remember too, I was a WWF fan, and you know, 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the moves that we did, they weren't 285 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: attempting any of all kind of but they put the 286 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: ladies on top of literal like pedestals and they were like, 287 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: don't tell. Yeah, they didn't do much with them. So 288 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I just said and and Paul said, don't worry, He'll 289 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: just grab you. Okay. So my cue was being grabbed 290 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: by my hair being drugged over the table. Because I 291 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: was at the announcing table. I was the timekeeper and 292 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I didn't even know how. I said, am I supposed 293 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: to really timekeep? I didn't even know what the hell 294 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: was going on? You know, I'm bringing the bell for them. 295 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I ranging the bell. They told me when they ring 296 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the bell, and then he yeah, I'll just literally just 297 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: grabbed me, threw me down and it was just like 298 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: white noise. It was just like a gasp and then silence. 299 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm just laying there like is that good? 300 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Is that bad? What's going on? I don't even know? So, 301 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, that was the first first thing I did. 302 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: So I got a first for you. So we've seen 303 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: beyond the mat most of the wrestling fans out there, 304 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and we're seeing Paul's speech where they're they we've seen 305 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the image of you backstage during the speech and you 306 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: kind of you know, there's the motions are flowing. ECW's 307 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: first pay per view. What are your memories of Barely Legal? 308 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I was scared out of my gore. I 309 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: was so scared and I just I remember just telling 310 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Shane like I'm gonna throw up and wouldn't throw up 311 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, you're not gonna throw up. I was like, dude, 312 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm really gonna throw up. And then that like Paul 313 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: saw me freaking out, and that's when the scene in 314 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: the movie where he pulled me to the side, and 315 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: what you didn't see was him telling me, like, what 316 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: is making you so nervous? And I said the fact 317 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: that we're live because we never we were live to tape, 318 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, and we never were live live. And yeah, 319 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I said, Paul, what if I mess up? And he goes, 320 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: do you ever mess up? I go, couldn't there be 321 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: a first time? And he's just like, you got this, 322 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: because Paul is very dramatic and theatrical, and he's just 323 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: looking at me, you got this. And I'm like, oh, dad, 324 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: just cry And I literally thought I was gonna throw 325 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: my guts up. It was just the nerves. My nerves 326 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: were so bad, so bad. But my nerves were always 327 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: bad though, Like I always felt sick before I walked 328 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: through the curtain, and then once I went through, I 329 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: kind of composed myself, you know, but my mind was 330 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: always turned. I'm always thinking of the next spot that's 331 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, going on in the ring or and I 332 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: said before like I tried to. I tried to know 333 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: five or six spots ahead of mine what was going on, 334 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: just in case there was a misstep or something, where 335 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: like I could be helpful to the guys if something 336 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: messed up there, I you know, know what to do. 337 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: And so I tried. I always tried to listen to 338 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: the complete match and just retain as much information as 339 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: I could. But yeah, I was a bundle of nerves 340 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: that night. And then even if you ask Shane like 341 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't the best match on the card, right, 342 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: you know. And then we had a talk of Missinoku 343 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: just blew out of the water. We were just like, oh, okay, 344 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: that's great. You know, so you live in your own east. 345 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: How about this one? How about ECW's first musical CD. 346 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: You were shared on the back cover, so I was 347 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: trying to think maybe first piece of merchandise whatever. But 348 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: the CD was a big deal because everybody knew the 349 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: music of ECW was really what helped set the vibe 350 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: of ECW. What do you think about being on the 351 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: the the the back cover of the first ever ECW CD? 352 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Is it hold on? That one's the one? Yeah? That one? 353 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Extreme music by various artists. How all right? This is 354 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: how smart I am. So I made the cover of 355 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: that one, right, And then the music label gave out swag. 356 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was the same music label 357 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: that did the second one, not really sure, but they 358 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: gave out swag and they gave out these shirts and 359 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: uh it had their label on the shirts, right, And 360 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna wear their sh shirt and I'll 361 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: get my picture taken in it, and I'm gonna get 362 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: on the on the second the second CD as well, 363 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: And I did because to put their shirt on. Oh yeah, yeah, 364 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: I put them over with their shirt and I made 365 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: I made both of the covers of the CDs. But 366 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: that's perfect though. But the first one, yeah you sad, 367 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: bad boy over and you're on the backside the track listing. 368 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: Which funny story about that. So where I used to 369 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: live in New Jersey, there was a music store downtown 370 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: and my grandmother would go into that town every weekend 371 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: to get her hair done and you know, go shopping, 372 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: so when you know, just asking what you want for Christmas? 373 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: And I am so being a huge mark at the 374 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: time one of the U CW music CD, not knowing 375 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: what the cover looked like at the time, so then 376 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: all I could picture was my seventy seven year old 377 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: grandma buying The Sandman wrapped up in barbed wire, bringing 378 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: it up to the counter at the music store, and 379 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I like to buy this. They're probably 380 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: like looking at it, like, ok old, yeah, go. Wasn't 381 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: that the one where when you opened it up it 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: had all of our pictures over the songs and it 383 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: gave a quote I think, So I haven't looked at 384 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: it in years. Yeah. Well, if I had a copy 385 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: in front of me, I would laugh my hands off 386 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: because my quote was not from me. And I was like, 387 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: I like to spread oil all over my cam body. 388 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the friend who wrote this was 389 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: that ship? Was that Shane over there and being like 390 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and this is what I want you to say, say 391 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: say this for her? No, that was probably I don't 392 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: I think it was Paul. Actually, I don't know who 393 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: wrote it. But I remember getting this dad and I 394 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is cool. Then I opened it 395 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: up and I was like, oh my god, this is mortified. 396 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Who wrote that? I didn't say that, but no, but 397 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: it was nice to be you know, it was nice 398 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: to be featured. Yeah I was. I was thrilled to 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: be on it. Yeah, it was it was something good 400 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: that happened. To think there's any anything else first wise, 401 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I just wanted to throw a 402 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: couple out there. It's really uh, you know, there's really 403 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: there's been maybe next time we talk about last, you 404 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: talk about first. I don't know how about last next time, 405 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, it's pretty much all I 406 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: got for this one. If if you're if you're satisfied, 407 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: what are some other first you remember about Francine? Leave 408 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: it in the comments section. If you want a relations 409 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: of wrestling, I mean to preface it, I mean, like, 410 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: come on, relationship of wrestling something. Maybe I didn't think 411 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: about it. I could have. I could have said first 412 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: full match, but maybe that we see that for another day. 413 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: So I wanted to kind of think outside the box. 414 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: So you've been listening to uh this Patreon exclusive. Hope 415 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it, right? You hope you enjoyed right? That's 416 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: all we can ask. Yeah, enjoy and there you go. 417 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: We'll catch you on the flip side. 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