Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined on this Thursday Morning, Boxing Day by
Speaker 1: Andrew Rickson and Pat fitz Morris Fellas. Merry Christmas, Happy
Speaker 1: holidays to everybody listening and watching. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays.
Speaker 1: Happy if you don't celebrate that, just time with families
Speaker 1: or happy Fantasy Championship week, whatever it is, We've got
Speaker 1: something to celebrate. If you're watching this show, fits, how
Speaker 1: is your time with the family this week?
Speaker 2: It's a really good worm a lot of family and
Speaker 2: a lot of food. Too much food. I feel like
Speaker 2: I've been feasting for the last week and really need
Speaker 2: to introduce reintroduce fruit into my diet. And really the
Speaker 2: only fruit I've been consuming the last week has been
Speaker 2: in the form of red wine. So yeah, I need
Speaker 2: to eat some pineapple or something.
Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me in the slightest I believe one
Speaker 1: year your fantasy baseball team in the Work League was
Speaker 1: wins above replacement, so that is no surprise to hear there.
Speaker 1: Ericson how about you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, lots of good, good drinks, good food,
Speaker 3: and a couple good fantasy decisions again on my way
Speaker 3: to my Christmas Day party, and I forgot that I
Speaker 3: didn't set my lineup for the Wednesday matchups. And I
Speaker 3: have James Connor, he's banged out, but I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I could trust him. I have Xavier
Speaker 3: Worthy on the bench, So I'm driving. I get the
Speaker 3: wife on my phone, right, Hey, we got to update
Speaker 3: this lineup here. So it takes us like fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: to get through it, but eventually we get my homes
Speaker 3: in the line, we get Worthy of the lineup, and
Speaker 3: then I pull in a little bit after one o'clock
Speaker 3: check my phone. Touchdown Xavier Worthy. So absolutely felt great.
Speaker 3: And that's in my championship league. So off to a
Speaker 3: good start and looking to kind of come home with
Speaker 3: the ship come Monday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great way to kick things off
Speaker 1: when you have that early, like extra early Wednesday game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: starting strong just puts you in a good mood for
Speaker 1: the rest of the weekend and the rest of the slate. Fits.
Speaker 1: How are your title kind of set up looking, I've
Speaker 1: got three kind of relevant games going on still, two championships,
Speaker 1: one third place game that does have money on the line.
Speaker 1: What's your you know, how spread art are you? Obviously
Speaker 1: whittled down throughout the course of the season from twenty
Speaker 1: leagues to ten to you know, what are you at now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've got three championship games in redraft leagues,
Speaker 2: two industry leagues, and one home league, and I think
Speaker 2: I'm ranging from a slight to a heavy favorite in
Speaker 2: all of them right now. But the main one, in
Speaker 2: the one I want to win most is this home league.
Speaker 2: And I was going against Lamar Jackson and Zay Flowers,
Speaker 2: and I feel very fortunate that the Texans weren't able
Speaker 2: to mount anything at all on offense whatsoever, and it
Speaker 2: kind of kept Lamar from going absolutely nuclear. He put
Speaker 2: up a big point total, but like it could have
Speaker 2: been so much more, and you know, Zay Flowers, like
Speaker 2: he had I think thirty one yards on the first
Speaker 2: drive and then didn't catch another pass simply because he
Speaker 2: didn't need to. I mean, the Ravens were getting whatever
Speaker 2: they wanted with Lamar and Derrick Henry, so there was
Speaker 2: really no point to get Zay Flowers involved, fortunately for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm facing our pal and colleague Mike Mayer in
Speaker 1: the title game of our work Dynasty League, and he
Speaker 1: had Mahomes, so that was not a fun start to watch,
Speaker 1: But he also had to Jay Flowers, so kind of
Speaker 1: evened out a bit there. We'll see how the rest
Speaker 1: of the week goes. All right, guys, this is our
Speaker 1: Thursday show. We're talking starts, we're talking sits. We're talking
Speaker 1: guys that we may be added on waivers if you're
Speaker 1: willing to start or sit them in the Fantasy Championship
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap up with touchdown calls as always.
Speaker 1: As a reminder, I've been reminding you all season, but
Speaker 1: now more than ever if you're checking the rankings, all
Speaker 1: of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found
Speaker 1: at fantasypros dot com slash rankings. Hopefully those can help
Speaker 1: bring home a fantasy title. Hopefully we can help you,
Speaker 1: guys bring home a fantasy title. This week, we'll start
Speaker 1: the waiver wire ads as usual, not a ton of options. Also,
Speaker 1: if you're playing in the Fantasy Championship game, you're probably
Speaker 1: not relying on waiver pickups at this point anyway, so
Speaker 1: kind of a streamline. Look here, the one guy I
Speaker 1: did want to bring up, and this is health depending.
Speaker 1: It's Trey Benson. He was the consensus number one pick
Speaker 1: up on our staff you know Waiver Wire rankings and
Speaker 1: the great article that Fits works on every week with
Speaker 1: Debro and bau McBrayer. Trey Benson was kind of the
Speaker 1: number one guy. Clearly, Again, this is going to be
Speaker 1: dependent both on his health practicing in a limited capacity
Speaker 1: on Wednesday of this week, and also James Connor's health obviously,
Speaker 1: So clearly, if either those health goes in the wrong direction,
Speaker 1: you're not playing him. In a scenario where Trey Benson
Speaker 1: is the starter and James Connor is not playing in
Speaker 1: this game, fits, how interested are you in starting Trey Benson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if Connor is out and Benson does play,
Speaker 2: and obviously people are going to have to monitor this
Speaker 2: because both guys were limited on Wednesday. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that was an actual practice or a practice estimation,
Speaker 2: but you know, Benson did miss week sixteen with an
Speaker 2: ankle injury. If it's a high ankle, pretty iffy whether
Speaker 2: he returns, but if he does, he'd be in line
Speaker 2: for a good amount of work against the Rams, who
Speaker 2: are sort of a neutral matchup but just not ideal
Speaker 2: that the Cardinals just had to put both of their
Speaker 2: starting left, their starting offensive tackles, Paris Johnson their left tackle,
Speaker 2: and Jonah Williams their right tackle on injured reserve. Like
Speaker 2: that is a problem for this Arizona offense. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to probably have Benson ranked somewhere in low end
Speaker 2: RB two range if he plays something like RB somewhere
Speaker 2: between RB twenty one and RB twenty four.
Speaker 1: What do you think eric'son similar range for you?
Speaker 3: I think it might be a little bit lower on
Speaker 3: Trey Benson. I don't know what the type of workload
Speaker 3: is going to because he's also doing his own injury too,
Speaker 3: so like we don't even know how healthy he's going
Speaker 3: to be. We know Michael Carter will end up being
Speaker 3: the complimentary back to whoever else is starting in this game,
Speaker 3: and right now, at least like on the injury port,
Speaker 3: like both guys are practicing in limited capacity, so we
Speaker 3: know James Connor's a warrior. The benefit to this at
Speaker 3: least this game is on Saturday, so you're gonna get
Speaker 3: to get you're gonna know about Trey Benson. So the
Speaker 3: only players, like I think I'd be comfortable starting Benson over,
Speaker 3: I'm not touching this Broncos backfield, like because Jillian will
Speaker 3: go offense healthy again, so now you have a three
Speaker 3: headed monster. I feel better about Trade Benson's workload potentially
Speaker 3: versus those three Denver Broncos guys. So that's the only decision.
Speaker 3: I would probably wait up until the news about Trey
Speaker 3: Benson and James Connor. But I mean, I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm slotting him more in the Patrick Taylor. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather start Patrick Taylor if Isaac Grendez out.
Speaker 3: Patrick Carreor played eighty percent of the snaps last week, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: he didn't score a touchdown, but if he does, then
Speaker 3: you're feeling fine about the workload that he got. He's
Speaker 3: also playing against Detroit and we know their defense has
Speaker 3: been eviscerated by injuries. So the Rams are up and down.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals offense has just been so unreliable, and James
Speaker 3: Connor is really the only part that's kind of worked
Speaker 3: all year long, and they take him out of it.
Speaker 3: How does his offense even function at a high level.
Speaker 3: You know, Trey Benson's not a one for one replacement
Speaker 3: for James Connor. So yeah, I'm just I think I'm
Speaker 3: trying to stay away and especially with the trends looking
Speaker 3: like Connor is I got to play just because he's
Speaker 3: an opposite warrior and both guys have been limited up
Speaker 3: to the Thursday practices.
Speaker 1: The other kind of waiver wire perch I want to
Speaker 1: look at for this week for this segment is I
Speaker 1: just want to have you guys picked kind of your
Speaker 1: favorite available defense slash special teams. Four week seventeen. This
Speaker 1: is a week that I know, like I do this
Speaker 1: in all of my leagues where I'm you know, in
Speaker 1: a position for the one seed, or I have an
Speaker 1: extra bench spot where like a couple of weeks ahead
Speaker 1: of time, I'm picking up defenses early four week seventeen
Speaker 1: just to have whoever's facing you know, earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: it looked like it would be whoever's facing the Panthers,
Speaker 1: so the Bucks or you know, at this time of year,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Giants. Who is the dst fits that
Speaker 1: you are looking at this week as the I want
Speaker 1: to pick this team up and help them, you know,
Speaker 1: help me get a championship.
Speaker 2: So I want to get either the Colts against the
Speaker 2: Giants and Drew Locke, who had two pick sixes last week,
Speaker 2: or the Dolphins against the Browns and Dorian Thompson Robinson.
Speaker 2: But both of those defenses are about they're they're roster
Speaker 2: in about half of Yahoo leagues, and pro believe more
Speaker 2: in leagues where all the where everyone is really dialed in.
Speaker 2: So of the widely available defenses, let me endorse the
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders, and they have not been a good
Speaker 2: fantasy defense. I think they're bottom three in defensive Fantasy
Speaker 2: scoring and that was with superstar edge rusher Max Crosby,
Speaker 2: who is out for the rest of the year. But
Speaker 2: what we saw from the New Orleans Saints Monday night
Speaker 2: against the Green Bay Packers. I know the Raiders are
Speaker 2: not as good defensively as the Packers are, but this
Speaker 2: Saints offense is just completely toothless without Derek Carr and
Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be Spencer Rattler at
Speaker 2: quarterback this week to target the New Orleans offense with
Speaker 2: the Raiders defense.
Speaker 1: Erickson, what do you think who's your DST djoure for
Speaker 1: the week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the points that fits brought up. I
Speaker 3: think definitely the djor is the Dolphins and Colts. I
Speaker 3: think those are the top two. But if they're not available,
Speaker 3: the Raiders. I'm just gonna looking at their games and
Speaker 3: talking about how, yes they're not a great defense, they
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of good players, but we look
Speaker 3: at they have three top ten finishes this year against
Speaker 3: the Browns, against the Buccaneers, and against the Falcons. Right,
Speaker 3: so it's really been more about well who do they
Speaker 3: play in those certain scenarios, not how good their defense
Speaker 3: actually is. So I co sign on the Raiders. Pick
Speaker 3: there the one that I like a lot that's also
Speaker 3: kind of under owned. I'm looking at our Waiver Wire
Speaker 3: rankings twenty three percent owned is the Tennessee Titans. So
Speaker 3: they're playing on the road against the Jaguars, but you
Speaker 3: have Mac Jones as the quarterback, and we've already seen
Speaker 3: the Titans play the Jaguars a couple weeks ago and
Speaker 3: they were the fifth rank defense that week. So they
Speaker 3: finished with nine Fantasy points and they get they only
Speaker 3: gave up ten points on offense, so or excuse me,
Speaker 3: on defense. So I like the Tennessee Titans as an option.
Speaker 3: I think also we're potentially looking at weather and that
Speaker 3: game in Jacksonville, so not like cold, but rainy conditions.
Speaker 3: So with just two bad quarterbacks, going at it like
Speaker 3: that an environment where you're creating turnovers and you're not
Speaker 3: too concerned about Oh, well, the Jaguars are going to
Speaker 3: put up points on this defense, that's probably not likely
Speaker 3: going to happen. The divisional game usually much tighter, So
Speaker 3: I think the Titans and I do want to say, again,
Speaker 3: you talked about defenses you like, I think you want
Speaker 3: to avoid, so some another defense has kind of been
Speaker 3: in our rankings is Tampa Bay, right, so they're playing
Speaker 3: Carolina and a lot I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 3: look at them as a potential option. I would not
Speaker 3: want them as my defense. The Tampa Buccaneers defense is
Speaker 3: bad number one, and they've already faced Carolina earlier this
Speaker 3: year and they were not a good man. They scored
Speaker 3: three Fantasy points, so I know that in the aggregate,
Speaker 3: Oh Carolina, great defense to target. Brycetong has been playing
Speaker 3: much better. And again we saw this matchup already played
Speaker 3: out and this game was a shootout between the Panthers
Speaker 3: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So that's something that I
Speaker 3: would try to avoid. I would go with the Raiders
Speaker 3: over the Buccaneers. I would go with the Titans over
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers, So again another team that's kind of out
Speaker 3: there that might look good on paper. I don't like
Speaker 3: them as much as some of these other teams we've
Speaker 3: talked about.
Speaker 1: Let's plant our flags on some players here for the
Speaker 1: final time this season. By the way, just bit housekeeping,
Speaker 1: we're not going to have this show next week for
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, just because so many leagues are already done.
Speaker 1: We will have other shows throughout the week, so there
Speaker 1: will be conversations about that, slated games, and we'll look
Speaker 1: at it from you know, if you are playing, maybe
Speaker 1: who are some players that have incentives to try and
Speaker 1: hit that we're going to be keeping an eye on,
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other stuff. So there will
Speaker 1: be shows next week, just not this starts it show
Speaker 1: in particular. So for the final time this season, fits,
Speaker 1: who are you planting your flag on?
Speaker 2: It's sort of a conditional flag plant worm, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to put it on Davante Smith, and it's conditional
Speaker 2: upon Jalen Hurts being able to play this week after
Speaker 2: sustaining a concussion in Week sixteen. But Davante Smith had
Speaker 2: an egregious fourth quarter drop that basically costs the Eagles
Speaker 2: their game against the Washington Commanders last week. I think
Speaker 2: if Hurts plays, Davante Smith will make up for it
Speaker 2: this week against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Ericon, what do you think about Smith this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good spot for
Speaker 3: him against the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, you should be motive, right,
Speaker 3: you know, he kind of left his team out to
Speaker 3: dry in the last week's game. And look, we've seen
Speaker 3: Smith again. It's weird this year because the Eagles have
Speaker 3: just been so run heavy, But traditionally, Devonte Smith has
Speaker 3: been a locked in, loaded wide receiver tour better in
Speaker 3: games where Dallas Godder doesn't play. So I think that
Speaker 3: he has a really high ceiling. And yeah, I like
Speaker 3: this play here as long as Hurts is ready to go.
Speaker 3: And I think that they're gonna I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: find a way to get him to clear the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: So sticking with you, ericson, who are you planting your
Speaker 1: flag on?
Speaker 3: The guy I talked about on the Prediction Show earlier
Speaker 3: in the week, Jack Dobbins, I think that he's gonna play.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna play in Week seventeen. I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna run all over the New England Patriots defense
Speaker 3: because I think this Pagriot's defense. I watched him every
Speaker 3: single week. They are terrible. They can't tackle, they can't
Speaker 3: stop the run, and they can't stop the pass. The
Speaker 3: only enjoyable part about Patriot's games is watching Drake may
Speaker 3: be awesome like that that is literally hit because their
Speaker 3: defense is so bad. Nine or last eleven running backs
Speaker 3: they have faced have gone over their rushing arts projection,
Speaker 3: including eighty six plus yards and three of their last
Speaker 3: four games. And jas Man even at like seventy five percent,
Speaker 3: that dude has more juice than Gus Edwards. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: like like like the Gus bus ripping off a fourty
Speaker 3: yard run for the first time in his career. It
Speaker 3: seems like like on Thursday night a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: He's also a little bit banged up on the injury
Speaker 3: report this week. So I don't think the Chargers have
Speaker 3: a choice, right They need expulsiveness on offense and Dobbins
Speaker 3: he's looked good. It seems like I've read some of
Speaker 3: the practice sports It's like, hey, he's looking good, he's
Speaker 3: moving around, he looks fine, he's good to go. So again,
Speaker 3: they want. They've designated him from return from IR he
Speaker 3: hasn't officially been activated. I don't believe for this game,
Speaker 3: but this is the first game on Saturday, so you're
Speaker 3: gonna get to know. Hey, he's ready to go. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to be held back. I think
Speaker 3: that he's going to get at least double digit touches
Speaker 3: and that's more than enough to get it done against
Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. So if I have Dobbins, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to find way to get him in my lineup
Speaker 3: as just at least as like a flex play. I'd
Speaker 3: like him a lot more like a Tredy Benson scenario
Speaker 3: where O'Connor's out. I would rather start JK. Dobbins in
Speaker 3: that kind of head to head.
Speaker 1: What do you think it's a Do you think Dobbins
Speaker 1: is gonna play based on everything you've seen both he
Speaker 1: and Edwards were limited in practice on Wednesday, and b
Speaker 1: if he is playing, where you're gonna rank him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of a tricky one. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the Chargers' strategy is going to be for
Speaker 2: the return of Dobbins. Maybe Ericson is right and they
Speaker 2: just throw him right back into that lead role. I
Speaker 2: guess I'm not quite as confident that he walks right
Speaker 2: back into fifteen to twenty touches, and I think it
Speaker 2: could be sort of a messy committee situation with Dobbins
Speaker 2: got Edward's a little Kamani Videll sprinkled in, so not
Speaker 2: quite as confident, and I would probably have him ranked
Speaker 2: in like mid range running back three territory if he
Speaker 2: does indeed play.
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Speaker 1: All right, fellas, let's do some start sick player debates.
Speaker 1: We'll start with the running backs as usual. Ericson, how
Speaker 1: about Rashad White or Rico Daudell this week?
Speaker 3: I'm going to play with Shrod White. I just I
Speaker 3: think that Carolina Panthers defense is one that multiple running
Speaker 3: backs can get home against. We've already seen this matchup before,
Speaker 3: and Shod White was very productive against the Panthers the
Speaker 3: last time they played. Yes, is he still the the
Speaker 3: one b in this backfield debucky? Yes, especially after re
Speaker 3: fumble last week. But he still catches passes and that's
Speaker 3: something that Rico Daubtle, even in his spellcow role, like
Speaker 3: his receiving uses hasn't been like fantastic with Cooper Rush
Speaker 3: under center. And then you just have the general matchup
Speaker 3: against the Philadelphia Eagles, arguably the best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Dallar didn't have a great game the last time that
Speaker 3: he faced the Eagles. Again, the role was a little
Speaker 3: bit different, but I think that White's role is still
Speaker 3: good enough given just how great the matchup is against
Speaker 3: the Panthers, to give me the slight edge over over dabble.
Speaker 1: Here fits what do you think about this one?
Speaker 2: So it's really close. I have them back to back
Speaker 2: in my rankings, but I do have Rico one spot
Speaker 2: higher at RB seventeen, White at RB eighteen. I know
Speaker 2: Rico kind of flopped last week, and I know the
Speaker 2: matchup with the Eagles is not exactly a red carpet matchup.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a tricky one. But over
Speaker 2: his last five games, Rico has averaged nineteen point four carries,
Speaker 2: twenty one point four touches, and one hundred and twelve
Speaker 2: scrimmage yards per game. He has been getting belky usage,
Speaker 2: and he was not the last time he played the Eagles,
Speaker 2: so I kind of throw that result out the window.
Speaker 2: White is obviously sharing a backfield with Bucky Irving. He
Speaker 2: usually gets somewhere between like ten and seventeen touches a game.
Speaker 2: Not bad. Since the Buccaneers Week eleven by Rashad, White
Speaker 2: has averaged fourteen point two touches seventy five scrimmage yards
Speaker 2: a game. Not bad at all. It gets the best
Speaker 2: possible matchup against the Panthers. But it just comes down
Speaker 2: to rankings philosophy for me, worm and I always give
Speaker 2: more weights to workload than to match up when I'm
Speaker 2: putting together running back rankings every week. Usage is my
Speaker 2: north star and I just follow it in most cases
Speaker 2: no matter what. And just the fact that he is
Speaker 2: probably going to get about six or seven more touches
Speaker 2: than Rashad White, even though he is the much tougher matchup.
Speaker 2: I would rather go with the guy getting those extra touches.
Speaker 1: Given the matchup and the fact that he's coming off
Speaker 1: this really poor game in Week sixteen fits what you know,
Speaker 1: what is your emotionally confidence level when started Rico Dawdle,
Speaker 1: When you're sitting there for the actual Fantasy Championship, knowing
Speaker 1: he's facing the Eagles, knowing he's coming off this game
Speaker 1: where he had just twenty three rushing yards, how are
Speaker 1: you feeling mentally sliding him into your starting spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd be wishing he had an easier matchup,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Like you know, he faced Carolina not
Speaker 2: long ago. I would be wishing I had that matchup
Speaker 2: for Rico Dowdle, because like Rico, in a good matchup
Speaker 2: would be just you'd feel all the confidence in the world.
Speaker 2: You can't really feel that going against the Eagles. But
Speaker 2: you know, this Dallas offense has been competent with Cooper
Speaker 2: Rush at quarterbacks, so I don't feel bad about it
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Let's go to another running back debate here, ericson Brian Robinson,
Speaker 1: who I know you talked about earlier in the week
Speaker 1: as somebody you expect to bounce back. Or Jerome Ford
Speaker 1: who's stepped right into the lead, you know, running back
Speaker 1: in this backfield with Nick Chubb on the shelf.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going back to de Brian Robinson, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he was someone I talked about on the Prediction Show,
Speaker 3: someone that I think could go over one hundred yards
Speaker 3: from scrimmage score touchdown against the Falcons. I think the
Speaker 3: matchup is my better. Again, he's not facing the Eagles
Speaker 3: this week. The Falcons, I think, against some of the
Speaker 3: better competition, have shown a vulnerability against running backs. He
Speaker 3: the last eleven run backs to face Atlanta have gone
Speaker 3: over the rushing arts projection. Now, they looked better on
Speaker 3: paper over the last couple weeks, but a lot of
Speaker 3: that I'm chalking up to, Well, they've had a lot
Speaker 3: of softer match I mean like they're playing the New
Speaker 3: York Giants, right, Like, are you expecting his Giants this
Speaker 3: Giants offensive run all over them? Probably not so. Even
Speaker 3: as bad as last week was again he fumbled twice,
Speaker 3: ten carries for twenty four yards, he still has involved
Speaker 3: in the passing game, caught two or three targets for
Speaker 3: seventeen yards, still played a great snap share sixty three
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps. He just didn't get the touchdown right.
Speaker 3: He went over three rushing in the red zone. So
Speaker 3: if he had scored last week, he would have bailed
Speaker 3: you out with the touchdown. Wouldn't feel nearly as bad.
Speaker 3: But I think that the commander's role here. They're playing
Speaker 3: at home against the Falcons. Defensive overall is a unit
Speaker 3: that I am not inspired by in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form, especially their pass defense. So if Jane Daniels
Speaker 3: is moving the ball effectively and he's not throwing for
Speaker 3: five touchdowns, well the touchdowns are going to go towards
Speaker 3: Brian Robinson here without Austin Ecklers think that his role
Speaker 3: is still underrated as a workhorse in this backfield, and
Speaker 3: I think that he bounces back to me and again
Speaker 3: like we've seen this, this real life thing right like
Speaker 3: he left his he did not help his team last
Speaker 3: week at all, like fumble twice was not effective. But
Speaker 3: I think that he bounces back here. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go with Brian Robinson. And just the thing with Ford
Speaker 3: is I just just last week he had the massive
Speaker 3: run right right from the get go. But we've just
Speaker 3: seen this offense like the potential for the crumble with
Speaker 3: DTR as the quarterback, and now they're talking about like
Speaker 3: Bailey's appy as you do not want Bailey's appy anywhere
Speaker 3: near you're starting again. I watched him all last year
Speaker 3: with the New England Patriots. It is something you do
Speaker 3: want any parts of when that guy is taking snaps
Speaker 3: under center. So that's the only thing I'm afraid of
Speaker 3: with Ford, even though yes, Ford of allved Moore as
Speaker 3: a pass catcher, explosive DTR can just destroy an entire offense,
Speaker 3: and especially with ZAPPI I'm very concerned about the floor
Speaker 3: bottoming out with Ford, where Brian Robinson I feel much
Speaker 3: better about his floor.
Speaker 1: Did you say how out of gap you have between
Speaker 1: these two guys and your rankings.
Speaker 3: No, I did not. I have Robinson RB sixteen and
Speaker 3: Ford RB twenty five, so it's pretty significant. I think
Speaker 3: it's probably much higher on Brian Robinson that ECR probably
Speaker 3: have to guess. And then Ford, I'm probably a little
Speaker 3: bit lower on ECR.
Speaker 1: So you're actually it's more that you're lower on Ford
Speaker 1: than high on Robinson. Robinson, you're fairly close to the
Speaker 1: way ECR currently looks here as of Thursday morning. But
Speaker 1: Ford your several spots lower. Fits. How do you see
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got him much closer than Ericson does, and
Speaker 2: I've actually got Ford ranks higher RB twenty versus RB
Speaker 2: twenty one. I do love Ericson's enthusiasm for Brian Robinson
Speaker 2: since I'm starting him in two championship games this week.
Speaker 1: You actually survived championship with Brian Robinson on your team?
Speaker 2: I did and twice, So yes, I feel fortunate because
Speaker 2: he definitely did not help me get to the championship
Speaker 2: game last week. Yeah, this one is tough. So Ford
Speaker 2: had eleven carries in five catches last week, and Erickson
Speaker 2: pointed out, you know, he had the big day one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one scrimmageyards and a touchdown. But he
Speaker 2: got almost half of those scrimmage yards on that first
Speaker 2: quarter sixty six yard run. But he did play eighty
Speaker 2: percent of Cleveland's offensive snaps like he is the guy
Speaker 2: and he gets dual run catch usage. I don't hate
Speaker 2: the outlook for Robinson. I don't love that the Falcons
Speaker 2: have only allowed four rushing touchdowns to running backs all year.
Speaker 2: That's tied with the Chargers for second fewest, I believe,
Speaker 2: and or excuse me, tied with the Chargers for the fewest,
Speaker 2: and the two fumbles last week that does kind of
Speaker 2: concern me because I feel like if Robinson puts another
Speaker 2: one on the ground, he's gonna it's gonna cost him
Speaker 2: playing time. Like I would not be surprised if that
Speaker 2: meant more Chris Rodriguez and Jeremy McNichols. So not an
Speaker 2: easy matchup for either of these guys. I mean, Miami's
Speaker 2: run defense has been pretty tough two of lates, but
Speaker 2: I feel slightly better about Ford despite the quarterback situation
Speaker 2: in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Let's stick with you for our first wide receiver debate here.
Speaker 1: How about Garrett Wilson or Juwan Jennings. Who would you
Speaker 1: prefer for Week seventeen?
Speaker 2: Oh, this is going to be a fun debate because
Speaker 2: I know Ericson is one of the He might be
Speaker 2: the highest of any ranker on Juwan Jennings this week,
Speaker 2: and I think I'm one of the lowest on Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 2: I've got Jennings Wide Receiver thirty one and Garrett Wilson
Speaker 2: Wide Receiver twenty three. I think I'm pretty much in
Speaker 2: line with consensus on Wilson. Everyone knows the story with
Speaker 2: him terrific player, but he has become the Jets number
Speaker 2: two receiver, taking sort of a backseat to Devonte Adams.
Speaker 2: But it is worth noting that Adams either missed practice
Speaker 2: or was an estimated missed practice this week. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what his malady is, I can't remember, but if
Speaker 2: Adams wound up being scratched, this is a no brainer.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 2: This is mostly about Jennings. Like I just think Jennings'
Speaker 2: enthusiasm has maybe reached the tipping point. He's proven this
Speaker 2: year he's a really good receiver, but I don't think
Speaker 2: he's quite the star he has been anointed to be
Speaker 2: by rankers and Yes, he's had some really big games
Speaker 2: this year, but Jennings has also had fifty six or
Speaker 2: fewer receiving yards in four of his last five games.
Speaker 2: The San Francisco offense has sort of lost the plot
Speaker 2: over the last six weeks. They've scored seventeen or fewer
Speaker 2: points in five of their last six games, the one
Speaker 2: exception big game for Jennings thirty eight point outburst against
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. But it just seems like kind of
Speaker 2: a dubious proposition to me that the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: are going to all of a sudden get it together
Speaker 2: on offense when they have been eliminated from the playoffs
Speaker 2: and are not going to get star left tackle back
Speaker 2: Trent Williams for the rest of the year. So I
Speaker 2: do worry about this offense as a whole. Yes, the
Speaker 2: Detroit lineup Lions defense is really banged up, but it's
Speaker 2: still a pretty good defense to me. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not as enthusiastic about jenn I'm like a dozen
Speaker 2: rankings spots behind consensus on him. I think his ECR
Speaker 2: is like, what is a worm wide receiver nineteen?
Speaker 1: I think like twenty. Yeah, it's wide receiver twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean funny, so I'm down at thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like to that point, you guys are actually both
Speaker 1: very in line with consensus on Garrett Wilson, He's wide
Speaker 1: receiver twenty four in ECR. Jennings is the one where
Speaker 1: it makes this an interesting debate because you are so
Speaker 1: much lower Fits and ericson you are so much higher
Speaker 1: on Jennings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have more receiver twelve. So I want to
Speaker 3: start drawn Jennings because when I'm just looking at the
Speaker 3: quarterback wide receiver combinations, Garrett Wilson and and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: don't have the chemistry that Jennings and Brook Pritty have
Speaker 3: shown all year long. Like I get that last week
Speaker 3: it was more the debo popped off, George Kittle popped
Speaker 3: o off the bigger game. But that's just what happens
Speaker 3: with these forty niners receivers sometimes, like Jennings is really
Speaker 3: like the whole year, Jennings for me has been the
Speaker 3: guy that I wanted brand n Ayuk to be, and like
Speaker 3: he's in that role where you have these massive games
Speaker 3: every once in a while, but sometimes you know, the
Speaker 3: other guys get to eat. And last week was the
Speaker 3: first time we saw Deebo Samuel eat at all in
Speaker 3: over like a six month period or a six week period,
Speaker 3: where Juwan Jennings I think has been the way more
Speaker 3: consistent of the forty nine ers top receivers. And look
Speaker 3: Week fourteen against the Bears, Like he had a twenty
Speaker 3: five point game. That was three weeks ago. He was
Speaker 3: a wide receiver five So like, that wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3: The Rams game throw it out because of the rain,
Speaker 3: and in that game he still had nine targets. He
Speaker 3: still led the team in targets in that game last
Speaker 3: week again four fifty one, But I chalked that up
Speaker 3: to well Kittle popped off and and Deebo Sama popped off.
Speaker 3: Sometimes not all the receivers are going to pop off
Speaker 3: in the offense. And yet he still had eighty one
Speaker 3: aer yards, still let the team with a forty five
Speaker 3: percent air yards share. So this is the classic case
Speaker 3: of hey, Like, if this had been Brandon Nyuk in
Speaker 3: the exact same situation, I'd be like looking to buy
Speaker 3: him against Against the Lions, the Lions defense that has
Speaker 3: just been so injured all over the place, every team
Speaker 3: is scoring points against them. I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be a shoot. I mean, the forty nine ers, one
Speaker 3: thing they can do is play on offense, right, I
Speaker 3: still think they can score points. I like Rock Purty
Speaker 3: a lot in this matchup, playing at home, so I
Speaker 3: like going right back to Juwan Jenning. There's a ton
Speaker 3: of upside. See. I mean, that's what he's done all
Speaker 3: the year. He has three top ten finishes wide receiver one,
Speaker 3: my receiver eight, wide receiver five, and Garrett Wilson. I mean,
Speaker 3: every time this guy talks about his role with the team,
Speaker 3: he's like, I don't know, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: want to be here, Like he just seems so checked out.
Speaker 3: And I can guarantee, you know, Aaron Rodgers five hundreds
Speaker 3: touchdown pass all the regular season not going to Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 3: Like he's not throwing it to Garrett Wilson, Whereas Jennings
Speaker 3: has been Rock Purdy's guy more often than not this season.
Speaker 3: So I just I want to chase the upside with
Speaker 3: a matchup against the Detroit Lions versus Garrett Wilson, where
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like hoping that Rogers, like just just
Speaker 3: give this guy a couple of targets like, please, where
Speaker 3: I think that's going to happen much easier for Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 3: So maybe it's not wide receiver twelve, but I definitely
Speaker 3: like him more than ending Gear Wilson.
Speaker 1: Let's go to another receiver debate where you guys are
Speaker 1: actually pretty aligned on one of these names and then
Speaker 1: pretty far apart on the other. Courtland Sutton or Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: Fits will start with you, who do you prefer this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be a realistic decision for some people
Speaker 2: with really good wide receiver corps going into the championship week.
Speaker 2: So I've got Lamb wide receiver eight and Sutton wide
Speaker 2: receiver fourteen. Maybe I am too high on Lamb. The
Speaker 2: shoulder injury he's been playing with is kind of a concern.
Speaker 2: He's been wincing in pain pretty much every time he
Speaker 2: gets tackled, and Lamb is a tough matchup against the Eagles,
Speaker 2: who held him to six catches for twenty one yards
Speaker 2: back in Week ten. But I don't think I need
Speaker 2: to make the case that Cede Lamb is a phenomenal
Speaker 2: football player. He and Cooper Rush have been clicking lately.
Speaker 2: Over his last three games, Lamb has twenty two catches
Speaker 2: for three hundred and fourteen yards and two touchdowns ID
Speaker 2: receiver seven in fantasy scoring over the last three weeks,
Speaker 2: So no issues with Sutton only eighty two receiving yards
Speaker 2: the last two weeks, but he's in a nice bounced
Speaker 2: back spot and a potential shootout against the Bengals. I
Speaker 2: just feel a little bit better about Lamb this week.
Speaker 1: Ericson how do you see this one?
Speaker 3: So I again like you said me and fits basically
Speaker 3: have sutt in the same spot. I am just a
Speaker 3: lower on Ceedee Lamb this week because look, a lot
Speaker 3: of his MOX score stuff, like his upside is attached
Speaker 3: to him catching a touchdown. Right last week he had
Speaker 3: seven catches for one hundred and five yards a half
Speaker 3: PPR HO was wide receiver twenty because he didn't score
Speaker 3: a touchdown. He's playing with his shoulder injury. The Cowboys
Speaker 3: are out of the playoffs, and I know that he's
Speaker 3: a warrior, but he barely played in the second half
Speaker 3: of last week's game. So what if he pulls up
Speaker 3: on his shoulder. I'm out, coach, I can't play. Then
Speaker 3: you're left holding a dud in You're liab like That's
Speaker 3: what concerns me the most about Lamb because one kind
Speaker 3: of tweak with this show is like coach, I can't
Speaker 3: I can't go, and then you're left with a player
Speaker 3: that doesn't score any Fantasy points for you, when you
Speaker 3: could have started quoling Sutton and a magic it's the Bengals,
Speaker 3: which is like, hey, this could be a shootout. So
Speaker 3: it's been really consistent again down the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: but if this is ever a matchup they need him in,
Speaker 3: it's in a game where they're gonna be catching points
Speaker 3: where boniks, sorry, bro, like you can't check the ball down,
Speaker 3: and the running backs like you gotta throw the ball
Speaker 3: down field because we're down by twenty one points, like
Speaker 3: you gotta chuck it. So I think Sutton has a
Speaker 3: much higher floor than Lamb does. And this has been
Speaker 3: what I've been afraid about with Lamb, this entire seat,
Speaker 3: like this, this whole Cooper Rush experience, where he's like
Speaker 3: a lot of good matchups the last couple of weeks
Speaker 3: against the Panthers, against the Buccaneers, but I kept looking
Speaker 3: at that matchup weeks seventeen against the Eagles and me like,
Speaker 3: this is where I'm terrified of playing Cooper Rush as
Speaker 3: a streaming court like He's had a lot of better matchups,
Speaker 3: which is reflected in Lamb's box score as well. Like Bengals, Panthers, Bucks, Giants,
Speaker 3: like those are the teams that he's played the last
Speaker 3: four weeks. Those are all good matchups for quarterbacks and
Speaker 3: wide receivers at Philadelphia, and like Fitz said, we've already
Speaker 3: seen this matchup play out and he had twenty one
Speaker 3: receiving yards on six catches. So that really terrified. I
Speaker 3: just can't. I don't confident with Lamb. I'm too afraid
Speaker 3: of him totally dutting out and potentially taking himself out
Speaker 3: of the game based on his shoulder injury that he's
Speaker 3: been dealing with, which we saw last week where he
Speaker 3: barely played in the second half. So I just feel
Speaker 3: so much better about the combination with Sutton and his
Speaker 3: floor just quickly.
Speaker 1: I want to ask on Sutton just because he's also
Speaker 1: back to back in ECR with Tyreek Hill, another guy
Speaker 1: who was a first round picking a lot of drafts
Speaker 1: that I think this is a very realistic decision somebody
Speaker 1: would have to make. Fits would you rather just quickly
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill or Courtland Sutton this week Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: They're back to back for me and my rankings. But
Speaker 2: you know, like Sudden, we have seen some floor games
Speaker 2: for Sutton too the last two weeks. That mysterious zero
Speaker 2: target game against New Orleans back in mid season where
Speaker 2: he got no targets, no catches on a Thursday night.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I do feel generally good about Sutton,
Speaker 2: but we have seen the occasional inexplicable disappearance from him.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been high on the wide Receiver twenty four
Speaker 1: since week twelve. For whatever it's worth, croon Sutton. There
Speaker 1: was a bye week in there. Of course, Eric's entire
Speaker 1: killer quotone Sutton.
Speaker 3: If Jayal then wall doesn't play, gotta play diaryk kill
Speaker 3: like he just he's too involved, especially when Wall doesn't
Speaker 3: play and Walla hasn't been practicing. So yeah, probably help
Speaker 3: for me.
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Speaker 1: rapid Fire start sit decisions here another running back question
Speaker 1: I wanted to. It's almost the twenty twenty four season
Speaker 1: memorial rapid Fire question because these guys appeared pretty much
Speaker 1: every week. They were constant headaches. Is it to decide
Speaker 1: if we're starting then or not? So I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: him against each other, Tank Bigsby or Javante Williams ericson
Speaker 1: who do you got?
Speaker 3: You know, when I called traps et in touchdown last week,
Speaker 3: I knew that Tank Bigsby was definitely gonna score instead,
Speaker 3: and that's exactly what happened. So I'm going with the
Speaker 3: Tank man. I would rather, you know, try to figure
Speaker 3: out a two man backfield between Tank and Travis Etn
Speaker 3: versus a three man because now that Julia mcglofflin is
Speaker 3: practicing in full, I want no part of this Broncos backfield. Again,
Speaker 3: both guys have I think good matchups. The Titans run defense.
Speaker 3: We've seen get truck sticked over the last month or so,
Speaker 3: and that includes a matchup against the same Jaguars where
Speaker 3: Jacksonville really leaned on Tank Bigsby eighteen carriage for fifty
Speaker 3: five yards. So this is a matchup that Jacksonville knows, Hey,
Speaker 3: we can run the ball here with Tank Bigsby kind
Speaker 3: of leaving the charge, whereas Denver, I mean, Sean Payne
Speaker 3: doesn't probably know what he's gonna be doing yet, Like
Speaker 3: he talked up estimate. Yeah, he's done that before and
Speaker 3: I fell for it before and it didn't work. So
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna roll with Tank Biggsby. That's the guy
Speaker 3: I feel most confident about. Again, a lot of biguous
Speaker 3: backfields here, even in Week seventeen, of course, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to roll out the role out the tank here fits.
Speaker 2: So as of now, I've got Javante ranked slightly higher
Speaker 2: than Tank, but if Julia McLoughlin does play, I will
Speaker 2: probably wind up having Tank ranked slightly higher. Granted, they
Speaker 2: are both going to be low end running back twos,
Speaker 2: and I would kind of dread having to start either
Speaker 2: of these guys, But at least we can say about
Speaker 2: Bigsby that he has had double digit targets in three
Speaker 2: straight games, and he's a matchup against a Tennessee Titans
Speaker 2: defense that let Jonathan Taylor run for approximately seven hundred
Speaker 2: yards last week. So yeah, I mean, I can only
Speaker 2: generate so much enthusiasm for a running back who splits
Speaker 2: work in a mediocre offense and doesn't catch passes. But
Speaker 2: I still think I'll be a little bit more enthusiastic
Speaker 2: for Tank Bigsby than I would for Javonte Williams in
Speaker 2: a three headed backfield that's been wildly unpredictable all season.
Speaker 1: Let's say a wide receiver debate here, how about Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison or Calvin Ridley fits sticking with you.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I have no issues with Addison. I have
Speaker 2: him right on the wide receiver two wide receiver three
Speaker 2: border wide receiver twenty five is where I have him
Speaker 2: ranked terrific player. But there are just going to be
Speaker 2: weeks where you get a Justin Jefferson week, and we
Speaker 2: saw that last week. Addison had only thirty five receiving yards,
Speaker 2: but he did score a touchdown to sort of bail
Speaker 2: out his fantasy managers. But I want to capitalize on
Speaker 2: Ridley's matchup against the Jaguars, who have allowed the fourth
Speaker 2: most receiving yards to receivers and the fifth most fantasy
Speaker 2: points to wide receivers. Ridley had just sort of an
Speaker 2: okay game against the Jaguars a few weeks ago, seven
Speaker 2: catches for fifty nine yards, but he did have twelve targets,
Speaker 2: his second highest target total of the season. Just no
Speaker 2: reason to think he won't be the number one target
Speaker 2: for Mason Rudolph this week against the Jaguars. I think
Speaker 2: they're smash potential for Calvin Ridley this week.
Speaker 1: Erickson, how do you see it?
Speaker 3: I think that both guys are are good like wide receiver,
Speaker 3: three flex plays this week. I think you see upside
Speaker 3: cases with both of them. I still lean with Addison
Speaker 3: just because I mean, even with that, even with Jefferson,
Speaker 3: with Hawkinson, like the guy's been just on fire like
Speaker 3: every single week. It seems like, even like last week,
Speaker 3: when it's like a Jefferson game, he still puts up
Speaker 3: a decent stat line where you're not, oh man, he
Speaker 3: just killed me. Five catches thirty five yards, but he
Speaker 3: scores touchdown right, So like he still like gets it
Speaker 3: done for you even when it's not his game. And
Speaker 3: I look at this matchup Green Bay Minnesota, Okay, like
Speaker 3: I like a lot of these offenses here, Like we
Speaker 3: know Minnesota unlocks like kind of some shootout potential with
Speaker 3: the opposing quarterback though the Green Patty. But Packers have
Speaker 3: really not had to force Jordan Love to throw and
Speaker 3: a lot of their past matchups because it's been facing
Speaker 3: really soft defenses in terms of against the run. Well,
Speaker 3: this is a matchup where you could actually see more
Speaker 3: projected volume from Jordan Love, so maybe it's a little
Speaker 3: bit more back and forth. Again, this is a rematch
Speaker 3: from week four where Jordan Addison was the wide receiver
Speaker 3: four on the week and half PPR, so we already
Speaker 3: has a top five finish against the same Packers defense.
Speaker 3: So I think I still like Addison. And the only
Speaker 3: thing I'll push back about with Ridley is, well, the
Speaker 3: last two weeks with Mason Rudolph, it's been Chicka koon
Speaker 3: koa like he has been the number one target in
Speaker 3: this offense when it comes to total volume, and it
Speaker 3: seems like him and Mason Rudolf are kind of clicking
Speaker 3: a little bit. And Jaguars yes, bad against receivers, also
Speaker 3: very bad against tight ends. So again, Ridley has just
Speaker 3: been so inconsistent this year, where I think I do
Speaker 3: feel a little bit more about Addison, but I do
Speaker 3: think that in most cases you were trying to start
Speaker 3: both of these players. Again, Ridley still inside my top
Speaker 3: thirty's still very much in startable range. But Addison, I
Speaker 3: just think his body worked this year. I've been more.
Speaker 3: I feel more confident with Sam Darnold, AZ's quarterback and
Speaker 3: maybe a game script environment I like a little bit
Speaker 3: more than Jaggs Titans, which is the he epited me
Speaker 3: of Thursday night football being played on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do some flex plays here ericson how about
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers or Remandre Stevenson.
Speaker 3: I like Jacoby here. I get that Meyers is coming
Speaker 3: off a down game, but for the most part he's
Speaker 3: been a pretty strong play with Aidan O'Connell or just
Speaker 3: not named desbon Rider as a quarterback for the Las
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders this season, it's playing the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 3: They're playing in a dome, so you're not worried about
Speaker 3: any type of weather conditions. So I like Myers and
Speaker 3: and Remandre is it's just the boom bust potential with
Speaker 3: him right. The Chargers are defense that don't stack the box,
Speaker 3: but does that matter when it comes to well Stevenson
Speaker 3: puts the ball on the ground again, like you're left
Speaker 3: hold in the bag. Because it's really it's really annoying
Speaker 3: drodmeo that Stevenson keeps fumbling, and it's one thing to
Speaker 3: point that out because Antnio Gibson also fumbles too, So
Speaker 3: it's it's very hard to project what this backfit's going
Speaker 3: to look like because both running backs have the propensity
Speaker 3: to put the ball on the ground and on the turf,
Speaker 3: which is really concerning. I am Romandre is definitely a
Speaker 3: tough guy to look at because I think that if
Speaker 3: you had picked the different receiver, I think I would
Speaker 3: have gone in Romandre's direction, maybe someone that I've ranked
Speaker 3: a little bit lower, but Myers particular, like what he
Speaker 3: offers to the table, I think I feel better about
Speaker 3: his floor. Whereas Stevenson, He's had some ceiling games here
Speaker 3: and there, but if he doesn't score, like I'm just
Speaker 3: not as confident about his roleman. Like I said, if
Speaker 3: he if he fumbles again, it's it's it's over. It's over,
Speaker 3: Like he's going on the bench, and you better believe
Speaker 3: like Harbaugh knows, like, hey, this guy's had a fumbling issue.
Speaker 3: He's coaching up his guys like, hey, get the ball
Speaker 3: from Stevenson like and then he's going to be out
Speaker 3: of the game. So Myers to me, even though he
Speaker 3: had a down week last week, he's been very consistent
Speaker 3: for the most part. So I like Myers, you said you.
Speaker 1: Might have gone in a different direction if you if
Speaker 1: it was a different receiver. Do any receivers come to
Speaker 1: mind that you would highlight that you would have taken
Speaker 1: Rimandre over. Uh.
Speaker 3: Probably if you listen to any cult receivers, probably been like,
Speaker 3: that's easy, I'll take I'll take Romandre over the cult receivers.
Speaker 2: Jaden Reid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that yeah, only I got only if like Christian
Speaker 3: Watson doesn't play, But I don't even know man, Like
Speaker 3: they just feed Wicks every time Watson missus games. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think ramondre probably over Jayan Reid.
Speaker 2: Two Wicks did have a big game the last time
Speaker 2: they played the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Fitzy, do you like better between Rimandre and Jacoby Myers?
Speaker 2: I'm with Ericsson here, I would prefer Jacoby. I know
Speaker 2: he had the bad game last week, but it was
Speaker 2: kind of an anomaly. He only had five targets. That
Speaker 2: was his lowest target total since Week two. He has
Speaker 2: had at least nine targets in all but three of
Speaker 2: his last eleven games. So the volume is usually their
Speaker 2: target volume catch volume for Jacoby, and the Saints like
Speaker 2: don't have a good cornerback on their roster, Like, this
Speaker 2: is not a matchup to be feared at all. Ramandre
Speaker 2: ceiling is just so low these days. He has not
Speaker 2: had more than seventy four rushing yards in a game
Speaker 2: since early October. His last touchdown well, no, he had
Speaker 2: a touchdown last week, but that was his first one
Speaker 2: since early November. Not catching many pass these days. And
Speaker 2: then you know all this is without even mentioning the
Speaker 2: fumble problem and the matchup against the Chargers. I mean
Speaker 2: they've allowed the seventh fewest fantasy points to running backs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm all about Jacobe here.
Speaker 1: Let's go to actually one that has one of those
Speaker 1: Colts receivers in this question. Ericson Josh Downs or Patrick Taylor,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people were excited about last week
Speaker 1: as just the next in line for the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: you know, running back factory, plug right in and kind
Speaker 1: of get the goal line work and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Didn't do anything. Just a couple of points, you know,
Speaker 1: hurt me in a couple of leagues. So would you
Speaker 1: rather go back to the law with Taylor or start
Speaker 1: Josh downs this week?
Speaker 3: I would go back to Patrick Taylor. I know that
Speaker 3: we got to make sure that Isac Grendall is up playing.
Speaker 3: They're playing on Monday night, so it's a little bit
Speaker 3: more of a you got to kind of wait it
Speaker 3: out here to see if because you need Taylor within
Speaker 3: that role, because I mean, I don't think the role
Speaker 3: was that terrible. Like he had goal line opportunity, he
Speaker 3: had some red zone opportunities, just didn't cash them in.
Speaker 3: But he still played eighty percent of the snaps, right,
Speaker 3: So it should be a game where the four Narro's
Speaker 3: offense can put up points. And I just I mean
Speaker 3: these Colts receivers. Yes, the Giants defense, as I talked
Speaker 3: about on the Prediction Show, like the thing that they're
Speaker 3: worse about is defending the deep ball. I mean, you
Speaker 3: got a twenty five percent chance of projecting which coult
Speaker 3: receiver catch the deep pass I'm interested in right Tokoby
Speaker 3: Pierce could be, Mitchell could be, Pittman could be. Downs
Speaker 3: Like Down's probably the best odds of just seeing the
Speaker 3: most targets. But last week Cove, He's scored a long
Speaker 3: touchdown to two weeks in a row. That's something I
Speaker 3: don't like betting on necessarily. With Taylor, I feel much
Speaker 3: better about his workload. Again, the forty Niner's office is
Speaker 3: going to score points against Detroit, and I think Taylor
Speaker 3: can benefit. And if he'd scored a touchdown last week,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be a down on him. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Patrick Taylor for me, could he like fits?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor if he is the guy. But I will
Speaker 2: have whoever is the lead running back for the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers, whether it's Isaac Garrende or Patrick Taylor Junior,
Speaker 2: ranked probably ahead of Downs in the flex ranking. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have the lead forty nine ers back ranked as
Speaker 2: a mid range wide running back three. And I don't
Speaker 2: have any Indianapolis pass catcher rank inside the top forty
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. I just I don't want to start
Speaker 2: any Colts receiver at all with Anthony Richardson. And I
Speaker 2: like Anthony Richardson, but I like him more first running
Speaker 2: than first passing. So give me the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: running back, whoever it is.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jamison Williams big touchdown last week or
Speaker 1: Taja Spears fits.
Speaker 2: I'll start with you on this one conditional. I would
Speaker 2: play Jamison Williams if Tony Pollard plays for the Titans,
Speaker 2: I would play Jamo over Spears, but I would start
Speaker 2: Spears if Pollard is out for this game. I do
Speaker 2: think Spears is playable even if Pollard does play, and
Speaker 2: in fact, I will be using Spears in a flex
Speaker 2: spot in one of my championship games. Yeah, Jamo is
Speaker 2: just he's a little boom or bust every week. But
Speaker 2: like Spears, if he's getting a majority share of touches
Speaker 2: in that backfield, like I absolutely want him over the
Speaker 2: you know, hit or miss Jamison Williams, But you know,
Speaker 2: Spears is gonna be pretty hit or met him hit
Speaker 2: or miss himself if he's sharing the backfield with Pollard
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 1: Erickson, Yeah, I agree with it.
Speaker 3: It's tough, Like you really wish that pauld just wouldn't play,
Speaker 3: so we could just play Spears because we know that
Speaker 3: he's like set up really well. But Pollard doesn't ever
Speaker 3: practice and he always plays right, so it's like every
Speaker 3: single he's DNP D and p DNP it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: because he always has a playing and then we don't
Speaker 3: always get a healthy Tony Pollard though, like last week
Speaker 3: he was like dealing with the ankle thing and then
Speaker 3: you saw Spears get the goal line touches, so that's
Speaker 3: like super frustrating, but we can't I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: have the confidence too, like, oh well, even if they're
Speaker 3: both active, I'm gonna rank Spears ahead of Pollard because well,
Speaker 3: I think that he's the healthier back, because I don't
Speaker 3: know that right, And we look at Pollard in his contract.
Speaker 3: He has a bunch of contract incentives that he wants
Speaker 3: to hit to get a bigger payout. And there's two
Speaker 3: weeks left in the season. Obviously the Titans aren't playing
Speaker 3: for anything, but Pollard is playing for money and the
Speaker 3: coaches know that too, so I think he's gonna try
Speaker 3: to get onto the field and play, and I think
Speaker 3: that unfortunately makes it just tough to push the button
Speaker 3: on Spears, because yes, Spears got the touchdowns last week.
Speaker 3: Well what it goes to Paular this week and then
Speaker 3: you're kind of hold in the bag. Whereas Jamo, I
Speaker 3: mean we saw last week. I mean the upside he
Speaker 3: can deliver on one play like with his explosiveness, and
Speaker 3: the four nine ers defense has not been nearly as
Speaker 3: good as it's been years past. Again this Detroit again,
Speaker 3: I was so wrong about Detroit last week and play
Speaker 3: all this game is gonna go under. It's like never again.
Speaker 3: All the overs is the Detroit Lions. I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not looking to fade. I get they're playing outdoors, but
Speaker 3: San Francisco, as long as we're not getting another mon
Speaker 3: soon like that Thursday night games like please check the weather,
Speaker 3: it should be fine temperatures for this Detroit Lions offense
Speaker 3: to to coke here. So I like Jamo again. Jamo
Speaker 3: could be the guy that you need on a Monday
Speaker 3: night that wins your championship, right like him down by twenty,
Speaker 3: Like you got Jamo. Yeah, he pops off a big
Speaker 3: play and like you're celebrating, you're popping the champagne with
Speaker 3: Jameson Williams because he got your championships. So for the
Speaker 3: fun element of it, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: Jamo fits If you go into Monday Night down let's
Speaker 1: say twelve and a half points, and you have Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams left and your opponent has nobody. Are you feeling good?
Speaker 3: Are you feeling are you already buying the champagne?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I'm not buying the champagne. But as Ericson said,
Speaker 2: if I have one guy, like if Jamo gets you know,
Speaker 2: two catches for thirty yards whatever, it was going to
Speaker 2: be a tough mountain to climb regardless. But that is
Speaker 2: the kind of player I want in a situation like that,
Speaker 2: a guy who can basically cut that lead down to
Speaker 2: size with one play. Yea, yeah?
Speaker 3: Like you are you? Like you gotta look at the
Speaker 3: other side, Like if you're facing James Moms and you're
Speaker 3: up by twelve, Like, how do you feel like like
Speaker 3: I'd be not?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you are feeling terrified. Before we move on
Speaker 2: to the next one, where can I just make the
Speaker 2: point that, like ty J. Spears was a big miss
Speaker 2: for a lot of analyst preseason, and I had Spears
Speaker 2: and Pollard ranked like basically next to each other, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a split backfield,
Speaker 2: and that was kind kind of what Callahan was hinting
Speaker 2: at in August. But like, Spears has looked terrific the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, he has looked really good, Like
Speaker 2: we should not forget that this guy is actually a
Speaker 2: really good running back. And just there is this like
Speaker 2: crackle of electricity in the air when that guy has
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. And like I am, I
Speaker 2: want to be above consensus on him in my twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five rankings, and I want to get him on
Speaker 2: a few teams, even if he is penciled in to
Speaker 2: be the number two back again behind someone else, because
Speaker 2: like I think he's really good. I just like I
Speaker 2: want to be invested in tay J.
Speaker 1: Spears next year, maybe next year's version of how this
Speaker 1: year you were all over Chase Brown technically kind of
Speaker 1: looking like second backfield, you know, second guy in the backfield,
Speaker 1: but you just believed in the talent. I just whenever
Speaker 1: I stare at the draft screen and ty J. Spears
Speaker 1: is there, I just cannot not think about the report
Speaker 1: on draft night about him basically like not having one
Speaker 1: of his knees, like all the ligaments and everything, and well,
Speaker 1: I forget the specifics of the medical whatever it is,
Speaker 1: but like, I just can't not think about that whatever.
Speaker 3: I know it's the.
Speaker 2: Jaya Jay thing. But then again, we did get like
Speaker 2: one seventeen hundred yard season from Jaya Jai before he
Speaker 2: you know, disappeared into the ether, So maybe we'll get
Speaker 2: that sort of smash season from ty J. Spears. And
Speaker 2: maybe it's a one off, but I would still want
Speaker 2: that guy in my roster.
Speaker 1: If it happened. Spears is awesome. I love watching him run.
Speaker 1: Let's go to another flex here. Jerry Judy or Kendre
Speaker 1: Miller an interesting couple of names given what we've seen
Speaker 1: from them recently and wherever your expectations may lie for
Speaker 1: this week. Ericson who do you prefer for Week seventeen
Speaker 1: if you were forced to start one, Kendre Miller or
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy.
Speaker 3: I'm not playing Jerry Judy with d trs this quart.
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw this playout lot, Like we've seen
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy play with bad quarterbacks his entire career, and
Speaker 3: it's never good. Just it's like he needs Winston and
Speaker 3: that's it, and then nobody else can make Jerry Judy good.
Speaker 3: So I'm not playing. I think Kendre Miller is I
Speaker 3: think that people would have more confidence in Kendre if
Speaker 3: the Saints had just played so bad. And that Monday
Speaker 3: night game where I mean we talked about it last
Speaker 3: week fits where yes we liked Miller, like his potential,
Speaker 3: but we recognize this is the worst possible spot for
Speaker 3: a second year running back with a rookie quarter playing
Speaker 3: on the road in Lambeaufield, like this is going to
Speaker 3: be a disaster, and that's exactly how it played out.
Speaker 3: So this time it's different, right, Like they're playing at home,
Speaker 3: they're playing against the Las Vegas Raiders, just be like
Speaker 3: their defense as a streamable option. But I expect Hendrick
Speaker 3: to do way more than he did against against the
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. So that's the way I'm playing it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Kendre here because I think that
Speaker 3: he's gonna bounce back a little have a better better
Speaker 3: odds of hitting in this spot versus Judy where I mean,
Speaker 3: we've done this before with bad quarterbacks. With him, it
Speaker 3: just doesn't work. And we know dtr his favorite target
Speaker 3: is David and Joku Like we saw it last week,
Speaker 3: We've seen it last year he leaned heavily on David
Speaker 3: and Joku. And if it's Bailey z Appy, please just
Speaker 3: stay up far away from Jerry Judy as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: Do you like here?
Speaker 2: I echo everything Erickson just said. This is a Kendre
Speaker 2: Miller call for sure. I think it'll be a better
Speaker 2: week for him. Maybe not a great week, maybe it'll
Speaker 2: be kind of a committee, but it's bound to be
Speaker 2: better than it was last week in Green Bay. And
Speaker 2: I think the easiest player prop bet of the entire
Speaker 2: season was Jerry Judy was at like sixty two and
Speaker 2: a half yards last year. I was mad after that
Speaker 2: game ended that I had bet more money on the
Speaker 2: under for Jerry Judy. Like I was like, what were
Speaker 2: you thinking? Like why didn't you bet more? That was
Speaker 2: so obvious. Yeah, whatever the under is on Jerry Judy
Speaker 2: this week, I'm probably going to hit it again.
Speaker 1: Let's do a quarterback here fits how about Brock Purdy
Speaker 1: or bow Nicks this week?
Speaker 2: Give me Nis, give me the quarterback on the playoff
Speaker 2: bound team. Nix has thrown multiple touchdown passes in five
Speaker 2: of his last six games, and he started running again.
Speaker 2: There was a span of four games where he had
Speaker 2: five or fewer rushing yards in each of those games.
Speaker 2: Now he's had more than twenty rushing yards in each
Speaker 2: of the last two. Plus he gets a matchup against
Speaker 2: the Falcons defense that has given up the eighth most
Speaker 2: fantasy points to quarterbacks. Atlanta has allowed twenty eight touchdown passes,
Speaker 2: tied for second most. Falcons also have the fourth worst
Speaker 2: opponent passer rating in the league. Great matchup, great spot
Speaker 2: for Nicks. I just I kind of mentioned it before
Speaker 2: when we were talking about Juwan Jennings, Like the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers are out of the playoffs, their offense is
Speaker 2: on kind of a bad trajectory. They've scored seventeen or
Speaker 2: fewer points in like five of the last six, and
Speaker 2: they aren't gonna have Trent Williams at left tackle. So
Speaker 2: I will take Bonex over brock Party pretty confidently, Ericksonz.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to check on. So you said Bonex
Speaker 3: is playing the Bengals, not the Falcons. Were you reading off?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Sorry? Sorry? Yeah, all right?
Speaker 3: Was that all like Bengals stuff or was that for
Speaker 3: the Falcons.
Speaker 2: That might have been Falcons stuff. I might have had
Speaker 2: the wrong matchup, so that's bad, but still potential shootout
Speaker 2: against the Bengals. Yea, yeah, like we're excited about the
Speaker 2: game script against the That was a mistake.
Speaker 3: But no, all good. I just wanted to clarify that
Speaker 3: because I would be cause, yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 3: they thing to point out to bon Nicks is when
Speaker 3: we see him we see him run more when the
Speaker 3: Bengal or when the Broncos have to push the like
Speaker 3: the pedals to the medal, like when they don't get
Speaker 3: to just steam roll opponents where it's like, hey, we
Speaker 3: can play conservative, let's hand the ball off, let's have
Speaker 3: these easy passes for bon Nicks. But then it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're down fourteen points, Like hey, bo, you got to
Speaker 3: use your legs, right, You got to make plays if
Speaker 3: you're not hitting the ball downfield. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that this is probably spot where you want to go
Speaker 3: with bone Nix, and he has been He's surpassed all
Speaker 3: my expectations in terms of what he could do as
Speaker 3: a fantasy quarterback this year. And when you add in
Speaker 3: that extra element of hey, this is a spot where
Speaker 3: he's probably going to run because it's a game where
Speaker 3: you're going to see points. I do like Brock Prarie
Speaker 3: a lot too as a pocket passer, but again he
Speaker 3: is limited as a pocket passer, where if he is
Speaker 3: not running as much as bone Nicks, he may not
Speaker 3: be able to hit the same type of Fantasy football
Speaker 3: threshold that we can get from a guy like Nick.
Speaker 3: So I actually had pretty ranked ahead of Knicks. I
Speaker 3: probably got to move him, move him up.
Speaker 1: We all almost made it to the end of the
Speaker 1: very last show of the year without Fits making a
Speaker 1: single mistake.
Speaker 2: We couldn't do it. Oh, He's made a lot of mistakes,
Speaker 2: just none so glaring as that one.
Speaker 1: Your your words, not mine. Tight end hunter Henry or
Speaker 1: Chiga Conqua this week Fits.
Speaker 2: Chig Erickson mentioned it before. He has become Mason Rudolph's
Speaker 2: like go to guy the last couple of weeks. Over
Speaker 2: his last two games, twenty one targets, seventeen catches, one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty receiving yards for Chicko Conquo, and this
Speaker 2: week he gets the Jaguars, who've given up the eighth
Speaker 2: most Fantasy points to tight ends.
Speaker 1: Ericson Henry or a Conquo.
Speaker 3: I like both guys. I am going to roll with
Speaker 3: Henry just because he's been the number one target all
Speaker 3: year long for Drake May. That's the only reason, just
Speaker 3: I like the longevity of how he's kind of been
Speaker 3: Drake May's player more reliable. Chick obviously has been hot
Speaker 3: as of late, and I still like his matchup, but
Speaker 3: I've just seen it more from Hunter. Henry's also revenge
Speaker 3: game for unto Henry Can formerly of the Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 3: or at that point they were the San Diego Chargers,
Speaker 3: So I like Henry. I do like the Patriots offense
Speaker 3: a little bit in this game against the Chargers playing
Speaker 3: at home. A lot of the Patriots home games have
Speaker 3: been kind of like low key shootouts, so I think
Speaker 3: the Chargers are going to score points, and Henry's coming off.
Speaker 3: I think he's probably like one of his best games,
Speaker 3: Like we finally scored a touchdown after Tomorrow Douglas was
Speaker 3: a ruled incomplete in the end zone, so I think
Speaker 3: I think Hunter Henry could score again. And I mean
Speaker 3: he's been a top twelve tight end the last two
Speaker 3: or three weeks, and he's actually been in the top
Speaker 3: ten and three of his last five games, So Henry
Speaker 3: for me. But I do like Chig as a streaming
Speaker 3: option if you don't have Henry available before we.
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Speaker 1: Let's go out on top here with our touchdown calls contest,
Speaker 1: I am starting off at running back this week. I'm
Speaker 1: going with Oddric Estime for no reason other than every
Speaker 1: time I think I know what's going on in this backfield,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. He's a player I liked. We just got
Speaker 1: to kind of plant my flag here and say, I
Speaker 1: think he gets into the end zone in what is
Speaker 1: you know, an intriguing matchup for running backs, and I
Speaker 1: could easily see him bowling over some Bengals and getting
Speaker 1: into the end zone. So I'll go with Adric Estime.
Speaker 1: Ericson who's your receiver?
Speaker 3: How did you not pick Chase Brown as the r
Speaker 3: WE touchdown call? We're he was? He was the this
Speaker 3: is you're your fantasy. I want to see all the reviews,
Speaker 3: right Chase Brown season, That's all you got to comment.
Speaker 3: Chase Brown? Did you get to your championship? Chase Brown sison.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Chase Brown's gonna score this week, probably for me.
Speaker 3: My wide receiver touchdown call is DeVante Adams, because that's
Speaker 3: the only man Aaron Rodgers is looking for when they
Speaker 3: get anywhere near the end zone. Rogers' next touchdown pass
Speaker 3: will be his five hundredth regular season passing touchdown. I
Speaker 3: actually put a or a pull out on Twitter whether,
Speaker 3: let's say bigger lock this week, Devanta Adams catching Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers five hundred passing touchdown or it not going to
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson. So between the two lockses, sixty percent said
Speaker 3: Adams is going to catch it, twenty eight percent it's
Speaker 3: not going to be Garrett Wilson. So I'm gonna roll
Speaker 3: with DeVonta here catching number five hundred from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Fitzy, do you have it? Tight end?
Speaker 2: Jordan Love's favorite red zone target, Tucker Craft.
Speaker 1: So we've got Oddric Simate at running back, DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: at widers here, and Tucker Craft at tight end. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we are going out strong here with the touchdown calls contest,
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