1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: You're a smart guy because you you butter your Bread 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Coast game locker room. You're talking Joe, Man, Joe's the 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: best quarterback I've seen. What's something that you can tell 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: us about Joe Flacco that either you didn't know or 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: people in general don't know about this guy. I really 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: feel like Joe talks about it. I always to tell 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: my coaches, Man twenty one is scared of me. Man, 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. I'm Ryan Mink and I'm Garret 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: Downing and we're excited about this one today. First of all, Ryan, 10 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: it's nice to be three and oh. Definitely only five 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: undeffeated teams left in the league, and it makes it 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: much easier to attract guys to do the podcast. We 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: can say good things happen when you do the pods. 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: We can have a lot more fun when we're three 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and oh then oh and three. I can tell you 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: that much. Absolutely, and we want to have fun with 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: you guys. The fans, and let me just say we 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: pretty much every week try to tell fans to subscribe 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: to the show, rate the show, review the show, and 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: the reviewers are coming in there. They're flying in right now. 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: The good one I got a really good one. The 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: other thing, too, is you can email the show at 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. You guys 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: know we like to read emails, but today we're gonna 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: mix it up. We're gonna read a review, all right, 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: all right, because this is something that I thought just 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: really caught my eye. The title of the review, rat 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Boy is a Genius. Rat Boy review says it's been 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: great to get away from all the website content from 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: time to time and hear about the workings inside the 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: castle is told by Garrett and Mike. However, the most 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: recent episode with the rat Boy has me hooked. He 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: has a phenomenal pumpkin beer acumen, and anyone who skips 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: the morning coffee for pumpkin beer is just the man 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: in my book. Can't wait for the next episode featuring 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: the rat Boy. I mean, the rat Boys here to stay. 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I think he earned his key, and the rat Boys 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: just a great name, so I think he'll be back. 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: He'll definitely be back. And if you're just to clear 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: it up, if you haven't listened to the rat Boy episode, 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: that's episode thirteen, so you gotta go back and catch 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: that one to get filled in on exactly what we're 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: talking about. And like I said, you gotta email us 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: and let us know what you think of rap Boy. 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: It's the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Today. 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: We don't have the rap Boy, but we do have 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: another spectacular guests. I think he beats out the rat 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Boy a little bit. He edges him out a little bit, 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I would say. So we are happy to be joined 50 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: by Mike Wallace. We want to have some fun here. 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: And first of all, I gotta ask you, though, did 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: you buy joe a steak dinner? You didn't get you 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: know yet, I haven't seen him. You know he's busy 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: having kids. Did you so when he signed his big 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: contract a few years ago? You know, he went through 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: like McDonald's drive through. So maybe you can get off 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: cheap and just get him like a ten piece of mcnuggas. 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: That's the way to get off up on the steel. Definitely, 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't get him with twenty piece. Whoa big money here, hey, 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: big money? So it would have been the twenty twond 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: straight completion had you caught that one of the ends, 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: and you're gonna catch a lot more. But did Joey 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: ever give you a hard time about it. On side, 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: he told me, he told me in the locker room 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: after the game that I dropped the record break and 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: I was heard about that. I was like, fine, time 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: to pick a drop, right, guys called passes, and then 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: it gets to me on a on a record break 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: and I dropped it. Well, I'm sure you let them know. 70 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: You know, hey, Joe, you know I'm the early wide 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: receiver that's called a touchdown this year, right, and you 72 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: got a good comeback? Yeah? I could have, but I 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to use that one because you could isolate 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: me from scoring any more to really want to. You 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't want any punishment. And you also kind of get 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: credit because you had the block for his touchdown. Yeah 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I did. I did. It's a good point, Yeah I 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: did so. Yeah he kind of owes me too. I didn't. 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were such a fisy little edge blocker. There. 80 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I got a little something. I got mopped with Steve, 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: So you know, I gotta have at least a little something. 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Would you say Steve has made you more edgy? Did 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: you already have? I'm already like that though. Honestly, all 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: he does is just just amped up a little bit 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: more like I'm already edgy, Like I'm already that type 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: of guy. I'm like Steve, I'm just a different type 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: of guy that I'm I'm just a hype guy. Steve's 88 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: like crazy guy, like I'm I'm just a little crazy, 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm more hype than crazy. Steve is more crazy 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: than hype. And Steve's always looking for that peel back block. Yeah, 91 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: he's always looking for anything, any any confrontation he can 92 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: get eat wance this. So, you know, I love being 93 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: on the team with a guy like that. There are 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: times during games where you guys are on the sidelines 95 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: or maybe out there on the field, where you're like 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you are crazy. Yeah. I always te him that it's 97 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: not even in the game. I tell him that every day. 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: It's probably not one day that passed. I don't be like, bro, 99 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: you're crazy, like every day I'm here. It just, you know, 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: makes me realize that he's like really crazy. He's not playing, 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: he's not joking, he's not a it's not just what 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to put off. Guys really crazy wanting to 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to say something like that to Steve, 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: but I don't have the you know what I mean. Yeah, 105 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I tell him every day every day because like I'm 106 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: like Steve, I'm like that, Like I'm a rowdy guy too, 107 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: So you know Steve, Steve always gets the edge because 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: he can't I'll edge you. But you know it's not 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: me though, Like I live for that type of stuff too. 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: So you know every time, you know, Steve is the 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: type of guy man, you gotta you gotta get him back. 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: If you just let him come in and just tell 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: you all type of stuff, then he's just going he's 114 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna take it and pole on like that's what he's 115 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna do. So I figured it out, so I gotta 116 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: get him. Like every time he got he had something, 117 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: I gotta come back with something else just to let 118 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: him know. Like, I can't let you get the upper hand, man, 119 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: because I know you. I didn't figure you out already. 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: We go, we gotta keep that in mind. Well, speaking 121 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: of the upper hand, you know, I don't want to 122 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: get ahead of ourselves, but there's a big game for you. 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: I imagine coming up in about a month and that's 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: when the Steelers come to Mt. Bank Stadium, and uh, 125 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, so I gotta ad, what do you feel 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: like that's gonna feel like for you? Ah? So I 127 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: really feel like it's just gonna feel like another game, really, 128 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I really do. I feel like, you know, I'm gonna 129 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: be out there, it's gonna be you know at the beginning, 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny just because but this is like 131 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: my third time planning against it still is now, Like 132 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: I played against him the first year when I went 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: to Miami. That was not that was really weird, you know, 134 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: just because I had just left and I went right back. 135 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: And then last year in the Hall of Fame game. 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: We didn't play much obviously, but we played against him 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame game. So the weirdest part 138 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: is just seeing the guys who I was on the 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: team with and I was out on your team, like 140 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: and now you know, I'm just going against you. You know. 141 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: That's the weird part. But far as just like it's 142 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: always fun because I still have so many friends over there. 143 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: You know, when I see them, it's all love. But 144 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when we put on 145 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: these paths and we strapped up, I'll played for Baltimore 146 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm out here trying to kill every time. 147 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: It's the first time that you're playing against the Steers, 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be really weird. But honestly, like the guys 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: here fit me so well, Like as far as like 150 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the camaraderie and the type of guys that's on the 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: team that you know, it's not as weird as as 152 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. Like at the beginning, it was, 153 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: but now it's just kind of like something like I'm 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: a raven, you know, it is what it is, Like, 155 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: it's normal now. And when I go out there on 156 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the field, I feel like, you know, all the guys 157 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: embrace me and they have my back, and they always, 158 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, tell me they want me to do well. 159 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: You gotta get off to day this that, all types 160 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: of stuff they tell me. So it just makes me 161 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I'm one of the guys, and 162 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, it makes me feel like I've been here, 163 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: even though I haven't been. It just feels right, It 164 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: feels normal what I'm going to feel. Was it a 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: little weird at the game because I heard you had 166 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: to squash a little beef with the area. Yeah, when 167 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: he first got here, tell me about that. Give me 168 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: the back story here to be honest, because it it 169 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: goes way back to maybe like my third year in 170 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the league, and he had something. It was something about 171 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: like we we're playing against them, and up like the 172 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: next weekend I got to talk be What did he 173 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: say was like they're talking about were being or something. 174 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: We're about to come back to just reignite something because 175 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: we know you're cool with Webs, so we can have 176 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: my talking about all right, So Web said, every time 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: somebody asking you a question, they're always talking about Mike Wallace, 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: but they have a guy number eighty four and Antonio 179 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: Brown who is better than Wallace and all aspects of 180 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, that was that what kind of got 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: me hot. I can understand about killing well. And every 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: time I played against you, you always back up like 183 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know how far you get yards. So 184 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: like I always used to tell my coaches, man twenty 185 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: one is scared of me. Man just showed me the ball. 186 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Just give me the ball, you know, like and then, honestly, 187 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: even though that's when it escalated, but it was already 188 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: before that because coach Thomson told me when I first 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: got there, it was the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steels, 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: and when you play this game, you have to pick 191 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: a guy out who is going to be the guy 192 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: who you go against. And he was like, you're gonna 193 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: be here for a long time. So when you find 194 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: you go out there and you pick you a guy 195 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: and that's who's gonna be your opponent, that's who you 196 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: kin Huh. That like pick a guy to hate, basically 197 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: pretty much. And I was like, okay, well this guy 198 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, well he came in with me, we're the same, 199 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: We're the same draft class. And this is I know 200 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: they're gonna put him on me, so all right, this 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: is my guy who I hate. So I already didn't 202 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: like him. I got to read your quote. You had 203 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: a good response. You had a good one. You said, 204 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: that guy doesn't really matter to me. Who is that guy? 205 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I heard of him, but at the end 206 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: of the day, he can't check me. So it is 207 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: what it is. It's got to be somebody he really 208 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: matters to motivate me. He really don't. I'm saying, that's 209 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: the young Mike man. I'm trying to tell you. Man, 210 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: like I'm already see I don't Steve my guy all 211 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't amp it up. I've already liked that, Like 212 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: that's true. Like I'm built like that, So I honestly 213 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: feel like nobody can check me. You know, if I 214 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: if I lose the battle, it's because of something I did. 215 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I honestly never give the defense credit. Always. 216 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I always feel like it was something I could have 217 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: did better. Like if I if I don't catch the ball, 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: it was because of something I did. Uh. If I'm 219 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: not open is because something I did. They were holding 220 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: one of the two I think I heard. I told 221 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: him the other day before the game even started. I'm like, man, 222 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: number thirty one and number twenty is already holding in 223 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: the game didn't even start. You're already holding. That's what 224 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Don't you sit next to web now, 225 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Like it's just like two or three. That's my guy. Though, 226 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: once I got here, it was already, it was already 227 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: like we got cool fast. It was like the first 228 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: day we were good. He's a funny guy. Man, that's 229 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: my guy. I love being on the team one. He's 230 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: so funny. They have so many guys that keep my 231 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: day going, like Steve. Steve is number one because you 232 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: never know, like during the day, what you're gonna get 233 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: with Steve, like every single day is is it like 234 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: an adventure? Like you like, what is he going to 235 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: do today? Like something that's going to happen is now 236 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you just stay tuned because something that's gonna happen. I 237 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: don't know what it's gonna be. I can't tell you 238 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: exactly what it's gonna be, but it's gonna be something. 239 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: We've been on the receiving end of a couple of 240 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you never know exactly what. You never know. 241 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: You could be so cool with him, like how you 242 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: doing to stay off? You know, he's just it's just 243 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: like he just you can be nice as you want 244 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: to him. It's just something he's going. He's just in him. 245 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: He has to be rude, he has to go against 246 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the grain. He could want to tell you hello, but 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: he just gonna something's gonna tell him, Like, no, tell 248 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: this guy get off my face. You'd be like, how 249 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: you doing? Like normal people, like, hey, how you doing? 250 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Not Steve, get on my face. That's the type of 251 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: guy here. Like I could just the other day we 252 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: had to play like the end of the game play 253 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: that somebody always you know when you just pitch it back. 254 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: We're just practicing a little play, like just in case 255 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: you in the bad situation and let me pitching the 256 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: ball back. Steve catches the ball and on the play 257 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: he's supposed to pitch me the ball. And I know 258 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: before the players running across, like I'm running across, I'm like, 259 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: why Steve don't throw me the ball. I just know it, 260 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Like before I even go across, I know he's not 261 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna throw me the ball. So it's just like we go, 262 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 1: we're doing a little things. His turn to throw me 263 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: the ball, he just act like he about to throw 264 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: and keep it throwing back. I said. Before it even 265 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I knew this was gonna happen. Like 266 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: I've been on a team with this guy for like 267 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: seven months and I've already known, like all this stuff 268 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna do every time. He's going against the grain 269 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: every time. If we're talking about Steve, we're gonna have 270 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to get a bleat button out. By the way, we 271 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: haven't bleat, but we do have a blea exactly uncensored 272 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: right now. So like you kind of really interesting career, 273 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: you know, because you come in there is a third 274 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: round pick, right thro round pick in Pittsburgh, and early 275 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: on you kind of have instant success. You start to 276 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: go off. You know, your all a sudden, one of 277 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: the hot new guys in the NFL. And you even 278 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: kind of said, like in listening to that quote, you're like, 279 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: that's the young mi right there. How did you handle 280 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: that early success? I was on the team with so 281 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: many veterans, guys who wouldn't even let you get ahead 282 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: of yourself. And Ben is that type of guy. Been 283 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: great guy. Love him with that. That's why that's gonna 284 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: be my guy until I die, you know. Uh but 285 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: he was kind of yah, yeah, but you know everybody 286 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: knows my relationships a little different. But uh. He he's 287 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the type of guy who will make you stay humbled 288 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: or at the same time, like if you if you 289 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: go out and he started trying to get a big head. 290 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: He's the type who would look at it like, I'm 291 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: not gonna throw you the ball if you're a crazy yeah, 292 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: like you like, he wants you to be hype. He 293 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: wants you to do well, but he doesn't want you 294 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: to think, you know, you're bigger than the team. He'll 295 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: keep you grounded. He definitely will do that and you 296 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: know that. But so being on the team with guys 297 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: like him, Haines, Debo, Uh Fairy and those guys, they 298 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: just were such great leaders that it was easy. It 299 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: was it's the same as over here that they had 300 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: with you know, not a Ray Sizzle, all of those guys, 301 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, the older guys, Derek Mason, all of those 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: guys from when I first got to leave. It was 303 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: the same. Like that's why it was so so tough 304 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: against each other because like the same thing. So those 305 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: guys I saw. I imagine if a guy was over 306 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: here and they're just getting a young guy, you know, 307 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: say Tory came in when he first came and was 308 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: doing well, I'm pretty sure if he just started acting 309 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: too crazy and uh, you know Ray, all of those 310 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: guys that calmed them down. It's the same way. Was 311 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: this something that you kind of knew, You're like, I 312 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: better keep caught quiet in this locker room because I 313 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: know that there's guys that are gonna say something if 314 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I do, or did you did you start to get 315 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: a little crazy? And then they said they never had 316 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to do that because I wasn't that type of guy. 317 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Even though I'm feisting like I'm like I'm a happy guy, 318 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Like I don't having fun with my teammates. I'm never 319 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a guy who's gonna come in and you 320 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: know what, I think, I'm bigging in the team, like 321 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not talking to these guys. I've been doing playing 322 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: too good. Like, no, I'm not. You know, nobody ever 323 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: had to do that to me, but I've seen it 324 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: happen to other guys because of how they were. But 325 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, I just I was just really, 326 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: it was just happening so fast. I was just going 327 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: with the flow, you know, And you know, I just 328 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I've been a guy who flies under the radar for 329 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: a while. You know, in college, I would make big plays, 330 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: but I never really got the ball. So when they 331 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: when I got to the NFL and was making big plays, 332 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: it just happened so fast that you never really got 333 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: a chance to just enjoy that was just moving just like, Okay, 334 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: let's make another play, let's make another play. Yeah, and 335 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: then you signed a six years, sixty million dollars, five years, 336 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: five years, then turned down a whole bunch of more money. 337 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I saw, Nah, it was it was a little bit. 338 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: It was kind of the same. It was it was 339 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: too much to say it's a little bit more money. 340 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't much. It was close, but you get a 341 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: big deal, I think whatever. And now all of a sudden, 342 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: there's no like the radar, No, now you just you're 343 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: the guy, right. And I go from being on the 344 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: team who was just such a veteran team man guys 345 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: like we probably was the oldest team in the league 346 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: to go into the youngest team in the league. Now 347 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: I go from being one of the youngest guys on 348 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the team too. Now I'm one of the oldest. Because 349 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: in Miami we had so many guys who were like 350 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: one team was so young that I was like, going there, 351 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like in my fifth year, but I was 352 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: one of the oldest guys on the team, and they 353 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: might have had like one of two guys like ten 354 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: years or older. Then it might trickled onto somebody who 355 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: was in like year seven, and then I was like, 356 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: I was probably like the fifth oldest guy on the 357 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: team at like twenty six years old. Like it was crazy. 358 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: So what did that to you mentally? Not only just 359 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: being a veteran and being expected to lead like that, 360 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: but just the pressure of of getting a big contract. Honestly, 361 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really feel like it was just the pressure. 362 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: But money really didn't do anything for me. I might 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: it might have changed, like the outside perception of people 364 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: expecting you to do this or do that, But for 365 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: myself it was the same. I took the same approach. 366 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: It was just a different environment, a different team, different organization, 367 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: different everything. Everything was so different that you know, you 368 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: you always be like, all right, you know, I go ahead, 369 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm me, so wherever I go, it's gonna be the same. Now, 370 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: it was totally different playing in Pittsburgh and then playing 371 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: in Miami and not citywise the city. Everybody knows there's 372 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: two different cities. Just the culture, just the program, everything 373 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: is that plays such a big part that like as 374 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: a young player, you wouldn't know, you know, coming like 375 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: I have never knew anybody in the NFL when I 376 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: was younger. Was like we didn't have guys coming back 377 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: to like the neighborhood and stuff like that when I 378 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: was young, Like not too many people made it to 379 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, like from around where I was when I 380 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: was younger. But now we have so many guys that 381 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: it's easy to run into somebody who plays and see 382 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: what they're richa. All right, this is how you should 383 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: do things. This is how you should do that. Like 384 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: me and my guys, me my homeboy Kingdom, my other homeboard, 385 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Kendrick looks the one. We were close to the same age, 386 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: and we all were like pretty much the first guys 387 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: making it from around where we come from. So we 388 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: would want to setting a tone, so nobody let it 389 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: lead for us. We just we were doing the leading. 390 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: And it's like some decisions you make, he's like you 391 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: feel like they're right, so you feel like they were on. 392 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we never had nobody really 393 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: to show us, so we were making I'm like, I'm 394 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: not gonna take your what you say and be like 395 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: are you right because you never did it before. I'm 396 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: only gonna listen to myself in this situation, like all 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: three of us in this situation, none of us been 398 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: there before. I'm not about to take what you think, 399 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go for I have my own mind, 400 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go for what I think is right. 401 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: So you know those situations, sometimes you're like, all right, 402 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: they could be better. The grass is always gonna be greened. 403 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: But it's not always like that, you know. Uh. It 404 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: was just pressure just from myself want to do well, 405 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: like not money. It's just like, all right, I'll go 406 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: down here. I do get this money, I want to play, 407 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: improve the people. I'll be the same player here that 408 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: I was there and just didn't work out like that 409 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. The crazy thing though, when 410 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you look at the stats, you had good years and 411 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have good years, right, And that's kind of 412 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: gotten blown out of reportion because people think, you know, 413 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: it got to the point where people will be like, 414 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, like they would say I set out 415 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: like the whole half of the game, like like that's 416 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: how I left Miami. It was just a perception like 417 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, this guy didn't want to play in the game. 418 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: He was like, Man, I go to practice all week, 419 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I work hard all week. You think I'm really about 420 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: to say it. I'm not going back into the game. 421 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit out there. Like so people, you know, 422 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: just draw it on, you know, their own perception of you. 423 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, people like I'm selfish. You know you never 424 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: met me, you don't know me. I'm one of the 425 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: most you know, the nicest guys that I know, you know, 426 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: as far as like the way I am, Like I'm like, 427 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm the same guy every day. I'm not going to 428 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: come to Baltimore and be a different guy. I was 429 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and I'm the same exact guy. It's just 430 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: that certain people see you, they don't know you, and 431 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: they just figured it because it just make up stuff. 432 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: But it's what it is. It's just different. And do 433 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: you think some of that started because of the holdout 434 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh. Yeah, that started because I was like everything 435 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh up here, and then that happened, and 436 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: then it kind of and it was always good with 437 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: the organization, like me and Pittsburgh, Like if I see 438 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Mr Runey, if I see Kevin Coble, were all it's 439 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: all love. Like it's always gonna be like how you 440 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know, it's all it's all good stuffs. When you're 441 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: not there every day, when you don't have a relationship 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: with me, when you don't really know me, you would 443 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: think I'm this person or that person. And like behind 444 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, the scene, everybody is going back from me. 445 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: All my teammates back at me and texting me that 446 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: we got your back, bro, Just do what you have 447 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: to do. We all understand. But if you're in the build, 448 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: if you play football, you and within the building of 449 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: the organizations, you know you understand the game of football 450 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: and how things go into business. If anybody was in 451 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: the same situation as me, I can guarantee you they 452 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: would do the same thing. It's easy to sit at 453 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: home and be like, oh, this guy is selfish. Who 454 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: who wouldn't want? Who wouldn't want take five million dollars 455 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and be happy for the rest of your life. But 456 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: who would want five million dollars when you can get 457 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: thirty millions? This is real life. This is not this 458 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: is not like. This is not a game like this 459 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: is this is a game within football, but this is 460 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: real life decisions. I was making a decision for my family, 461 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: like this is the decision where my mom could go 462 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: back to working in five years or my mom could 463 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: never have to work again. I could care less about 464 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: anybody when it comes to my family, like I don't 465 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: care about a fan, I don't care about football, money, anything. 466 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to my mind, my dad, my sisters, 467 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: and my brother and my kids, they come first before anything. 468 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't care who or what it is. God first, 469 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: my family second, and anything else is you know what, 470 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: it falls in line. And I love football to debt 471 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: and I love playing in Pittsburgy to debt. But at 472 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the same time, it was a decision to make for 473 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: my family and my life. Like I've been working too hard. 474 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: I come from nothing, so to have a decision that 475 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: maybe thirty million dollars guaranteed taking the deal West twelve 476 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, this is eighteen million dollars different. Yeah, 477 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really discuss it and go into 478 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: detail with people because I feel like it's not even 479 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: really necessary. But if people really want to know, like 480 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: this is a twelve million dollars guaranteed contract versus thirty 481 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: million dollars, Like you do, man, just when you gonna pick, 482 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: you know, And if I wait three or four months 483 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: for this, I can get the deal that I got 484 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: in Minam And it was really a came line of money. 485 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: And you know, that was for my family, and that's 486 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: why I came here to it Baltimore, because it was 487 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: this was a decision going back to playing football and 488 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: like my mom straighten my family straight now forever, you know, 489 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. So now you 490 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: know from if I had to do that in order 491 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: to do that, to go to Miami, which is not 492 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: a bad place to do that. So but yeah, that's 493 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: just that was just was what it was. That was 494 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: a life decision. You had to make that. Like I said, 495 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of people would would do 496 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: the same thing I did. You just don't. Yeah, you know, 497 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: it's just hard for you to say that when when 498 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: you not in know what shoes, is easy for you 499 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I wouldn't have did that. I 500 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: just stayed law to the organization. I love him at that, 501 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: and you know it's my coaches and all other guys, 502 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: even with on the team, even coaches, like I said, 503 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: people with an organization like you do what you have 504 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: to do. I understand. It's just business, and that's just 505 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the unfortunate side of sports. You know, if you have 506 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: to do that. Sometimes you're coming off this high and 507 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: then you're to Miami. You have good years statistically, and 508 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: then the trade happens. So it's like it's just definitely 509 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: because you go for one spot and in Pittsburgh, I 510 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: feel like, honestly, I could have paid that fourteen fifteen 511 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: years if you know, I just stayed. I take the deal, 512 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: all right, I could stay there forever. That's that's the 513 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: organization where I feel I have to stay there and 514 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: be on one team the whole time. Then you go 515 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: from that to be like, okay, all we have this, 516 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: we got a decision to make, we go get the money. 517 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do that. And you get there 518 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, now I have to be 519 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: a better player than I would there and then night, 520 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, you try to do well, you do what 521 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: you can, and then you get traders like, oh now 522 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm on my third team three years and when I 523 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: planned to really only play on one. And then I 524 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: get there and you know, we have a D man, 525 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: we have Adrian Peterson up there. You know, not really, 526 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be too many opportunities. And I would 527 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I had no problem with that, you know, it was 528 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: it was what it was. It was like that seven 529 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: eight years before I got there, So you know it 530 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: was about to change because I got there, and that 531 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: was cool with that. You know, I think we had 532 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: we had a great defense, we had a great coach, 533 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: we had great guys, and you know, it worked out 534 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: for us during the year, it just didn't work out 535 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: for me. So I feel like you've kind of come 536 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: full circle in your career now because you talked about 537 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: when you first came in you were running under the 538 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: radar guy, under the radar guy. Then you have those 539 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: years in Miami and then Minnesota, then you get released 540 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: this off season and you end up coming here. And 541 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was different signing here than it was 542 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: when you signed in Miami. Yeah, it was totally different. 543 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: People like, no, this guy is just trash, you know, 544 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: this guy is just bouncing around like But at the 545 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: same time, I'm the same player I always was. It's 546 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: just how you use me. You know. It's all gonna 547 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: come down and you know how how I get used. 548 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: I played wide receiver, So at wide receiver you can't 549 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: even to be a guy who's boom or bus depending 550 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: on the situation and the team that you're on. Football 551 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: is about situations, and I don't play safety or left 552 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: tackle or d line where you can make your plays 553 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: on your own and do what like the position I 554 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: played the most dependent on other people that you can't block. 555 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: As an old line running back, has to block tight end. 556 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: We all have to run the right routes at the time. 557 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: It has to be. There's so much that has to 558 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: go on for wire receiver for it to work out, 559 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, and in most positions you can kind of 560 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: make your own plays. Like at quarterback, you know, if 561 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: you're the writer, so you can be a guy who 562 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: if they bring you in, make you look like just 563 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: a game man and yeah, but if they get allow 564 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: you to throw the ball, you can go out and 565 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: make a lot of players. At running back, you know, 566 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: you have to have to have guys are blocked, but 567 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: at the same time, you can you know, we'll go 568 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: out of there. Didn't do different things. dB, you know, 569 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: you can check your guy. But at wire stiver is 570 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the most dependent on everybody within the whole thing. So 571 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: sometimes situations just don't work out, and you know, people 572 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: don't understand everything, and it's not fooling to understand. That's why, 573 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, certain people are fans and certain people are 574 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: players and in the business, and you gotta take the 575 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: good with the bat. I'm with I'm with whatever, Like honestly, 576 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: it's a blessing just to be here, so I don't 577 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: take it personally, if somebody like this guy sucks okay, 578 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: that just made me go out. You know, I caught 579 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: a hundred balls today on the j That just made 580 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: me one oh five. I will give you credit and 581 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: say this, because there's nobody that stays on the practice 582 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: field longer catch the balls off the jugs like you're 583 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: one of the last guys off the field every single day, 584 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: day day catch it passes on the judge. So I 585 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: think there's something to be said for that. The other 586 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: thing too, I want to ask you. We do something 587 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: called story time, and so we want to I want 588 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: you to retell the story of the day you sign here, 589 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: because my understanding of it is essentially, you visit with Harves, 590 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: and you visit with Ozzie and everybody else, and then 591 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: you're about to leave. You're about to go catch your 592 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: flight already, and Harvest is basically like lock the doors, 593 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Mike is staying here leaving the middle. Yes, uh yeah, 594 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: pretty much. It was close to that. So I get 595 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: here in the morning, we go through the little, you know, 596 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: the visiting process, and they just keep telling me how 597 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: people never leave here when they come on the visitor 598 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: and so we go through it. You know, the coach 599 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: telling me how you know they're gonna use me, and 600 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: we tell them, you know, talking about the game, playing everything. 601 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: So we get to it and I'm like, okay, it 602 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: sounds good, but you know, I kind of when I 603 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: went to Miami was all about money, you know, this time, 604 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I kind of want to make sure I'm making the 605 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: right football decision because you know, everybody pretty much like 606 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: this guy's out of there. I want to go to 607 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a spot that could give me a chance to go 608 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: back and prove that I can still play football at 609 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: a very high level. So it's like we get here, 610 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: out here, I like what, you know, I like the 611 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: plan and things like that, but at the same time 612 00:27:50,680 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: as my first visit still happen. You gotta go out there. Yeah, yeah, know, 613 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: get a free get to do the city, see what's 614 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: everything going on. So we get to the Dens. It's 615 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: going by so hard. It's it's like, I'm like, I 616 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: have to catch a flight. I'm supposed to go to 617 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: New England at two o'clock. He's like, okay, So it 618 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: gets too close to like twelve twelve thirty. I'm like, 619 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, I got to be in the airport, like 620 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. And so they're still talking, Ozzie and my 621 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: my agents talking, you know, trying to work through some 622 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: numbers and things like that, and you know, you're telling me. 623 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, it sounds good, but I'm gonna 624 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: just go to New England, you know, just to just 625 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: to see what's going on, you know, see the whole situation. 626 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: How is it gonna play. He's like all right, he said, okay, 627 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: just wait right here. So I'm just sitting there for 628 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: like twin thirty when from like, man, no way possible. 629 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm about to catch my fire. So he comes back down. 630 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I think we got it done. 631 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: I think we got the deal done. He's talking to 632 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: my agent. So I go upstair and talk to my 633 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: agent and he was like, all right, they you know, 634 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: we want to do this at you know, I was like, 635 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: you know what, man, if I like to hear, I 636 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a good fit. Joe. You know, 637 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: I was the number honestly, you know, I looked at 638 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: the numbers last year when we would like to leave 639 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: passing team in the league in Minnesota, and then I 640 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: was looking for who was the top pass honestly, because 641 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I need to just you know, I'm 642 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: gonna need some more opportunities up playing here. But you know, 643 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: glad we threw the ball so much last year. So 644 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I look up and I'm like, wow, they threw the 645 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: ball like two hundred more times than we did. Like 646 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot of attempts. Like when you go back 647 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: and look at maybe like tow fifty more than this. 648 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what I was thinking about. 649 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you think about it, yep. Joe. Joe 650 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: always like to throw the ball down and feel that's 651 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: what he's done since I've been in the league. You know, 652 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best, you know, D 653 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: ball quarterbacks in the league. Like and I've always felt 654 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: that way. And I'm like, he's a guy who's going 655 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: to continue to throw it though he's like you might 656 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: catch one, and then he'll come back the next play 657 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and throw it again. And I used to just see Tory, 658 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, playing against those guys all the time. I 659 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: always saw it just continually to go down and field. 660 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I think I'm gonna go 661 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Before I told before I even came here 662 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: on the viso, I told my cousin, I was like, 663 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm end up going to Baltimore. Yeah that 664 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you a scale one that tame 665 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: before you got here. What how likely did you think 666 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: it was about the seventh because it was gonna come down. 667 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I had I had a night even bit of change, 668 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe like six teams, sevent teams, but at the end 669 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: of the day, it was only like a few that 670 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: I would have went to because I wasn't trying to 671 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: just be on the team. I was trying to go 672 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: on a team who was gonna be able to win 673 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: and I was gonna be able to make plays at 674 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: the same time. And you know, I was going to 675 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: new because I'm like, man, don't matter whose players over there, 676 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna plug you in. Y Yeah, very very glad. Yeah, 677 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: you know you go over there. I was like, man, 678 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I'll be able to make a lot of plays, and 679 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna see what they're talking about 680 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: with car Coach hard made me miss my flight. Man. 681 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of heard about it that day, 682 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: but at the same time it was it was great 683 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't be here. So yeah, so one thing. 684 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: I think it's cool you and Joe Flacco seemed to 685 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: have clicked. I mean, you guys sit really close to 686 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: each other with the locker room. Uh. He obviously likes 687 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: s throwing you the football, and so it just seems 688 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: like you guys have kind of become buddies. What's something 689 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: that you can tell us about Joe Flacco that either 690 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: you didn't know or people in general don't know about 691 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: this guy putting you on the spot here right now. 692 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Joe is a quiet guy, but I really feel like 693 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: Joe talks a lot of it. I feel like he 694 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: talks a lot of trash that people like he's he's quiet, 695 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: but he's not quiet, Like he's that guy who just 696 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, just big talk, cool guy just walks around, 697 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, with his hair to be a quiet guy. 698 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: He talks so much trash. Like when he does say 699 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: something is always funny to me because he's always talking trash. 700 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: You just hear him like yeah it sugs or what 701 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: oh everybody, it's just the things that he says. It's 702 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: always something smart, like a little smart comment. I'd be like, bro, 703 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: you're funniest. The three games are touchdowns for you and 704 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: as you said, it's that's you know, will make that up. 705 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: They'll be more, we'll come back. So are any of 706 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: the other offensive players starting to get jealous? They ain't 707 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: getting in the action yet. Only not jealous, But the 708 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: only one who gave me a hard time, well, not 709 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: only but mostly it's pitter you're cutting in. It was dynamic. Yeah, definitely, 710 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Like he didn't say that, like that's my bfl Like 711 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: that's already understood their friends, so that's already understood. But 712 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: he was like, Mike, you're gonna let somebody else go 713 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: some touchdowns. And he told me that before the other 714 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: game we were warming up in Jacksonville. I was like, 715 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: you gonna let me have some of your yards, Like, 716 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, we can swap it out, take some touchdown 717 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: and take some yards and we will both be happy. 718 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, they definitely give me a little hard time, 719 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's all love. I noticed 720 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: you're a smart guy because you you butter your bread 721 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: game room. You talk Joel Man, Joe's the best quarterback 722 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: I haven't seen too. I went to a prestigious university. Man, 723 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: we learned a lot. So one thing I found and 724 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, poking around a little bit, and I didn't 725 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: know that. Right now, we're not talking to Mike Wallace, 726 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: we're talking to Burnell Wallace. Yeah, well honestly you're still 727 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: talking to Mike because I'm going to burn I'm gonna 728 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: start going by Burnell. I want to make thirty five. Yeah, 729 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: that's a grown man name. That name is so grown 730 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: like that's like I'm a third. That's my grandpa's name, 731 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: so you know, that's like an older name. So you've 732 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: got to be a really grown man to go by Burnell. 733 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: That's like a only two people ever and people probably 734 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: don't want to call me that because you know who 735 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: only two people call me? That didn't that probably? You know, 736 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: only two people ever called Burnell this Coach Thomond and 737 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Big Ben. Only two people nobody here? Does anybody know? 738 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: They just found out, like Camar found out maybe like 739 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: a week doesn't matter. Maybe man at his radio show, 740 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I didn't ready a show on Friday, and they will 741 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: give me a hard time. He was like, Um, I 742 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: forgot who asked me? They were like, uh, does anybody know? 743 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: That's your first name? Is burn Now? Like names like what? 744 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: That's what he found out? That was my first name 745 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: but you know it's not like I just like, no, 746 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't call me that, not at all. You know 747 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: that's my name. But uh, like I said, I'm the third. 748 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: My my father, they used to always call him Mike, 749 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: so I was always just little Mike. I don't und 750 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: I don't know why they stopped calling him Burnew, but uh, 751 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: they always called him Mike, so I was little. He'll 752 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: be like Steve Smith when you get to that old 753 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: man age still playing ball, you know't see for the 754 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: senior and then his name there can have to change 755 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: to be walling. Yeah right, I'm telling I'm telling Stevie. 756 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: You just called him old man too. Yeah, he calls 757 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: himself man. He don't care. Yeah, but he call for everyone. 758 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: But he lives. Yeah, he lives for that though. So 759 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: when he when he does well in the game and 760 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: mess over somebody, be like I got these young boys 761 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: can't even stop me. This old man that's what he 762 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: wants to call himself. Oh but other than that, he 763 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: thinks he think students. I'm taking Mike's advice. He said, 764 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: you got to work to get the upper hand on him. 765 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: You can't always let him have keep hands. I'm trying 766 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: to we never let him have it because I'm the 767 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: type of guy I wanted the upper hand. So before 768 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: we let you go three touchdowns already you already said 769 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: you've already proved a lot of people wrong. No I didn't. 770 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: Oh you're not. We think we think you've already shared 771 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: them what's up. But but we're not even close to 772 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: proving people wrong. We have a lot more to do, 773 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns to prove people. So you can drag 774 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: my name through the mud man. They talk about me bad. 775 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: So you know, we three touchdown and not gonna cut it. 776 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: We can need a lot more than that. Tennis career 777 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: high take us realistic. I think ten screer high. Think yeah, 778 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: that realistic in your sight? Yeah, most definitely get more 779 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: nice Raven like you hear that. That is very good stuff, 780 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: and Mike thank you so much. In time, Well it's 781 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: Mike exits the lounge here, just another really good conversation 782 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: with him. I mean, he's a funny dude and and 783 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: really introspective. I think it's like we're saying, his career 784 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: path is very interesting, the way he blew up and 785 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: then kind of got humbled a little bit. And now 786 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: I think he's on his way back up, I think so. Uh. 787 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: And the other thing too that I appreciated that Mike 788 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: is he's willing to like take on the questions and 789 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: he is aware of things that are being said around him, 790 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, like he even said it himself. He's like 791 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: everyone said I was trash and I was done and 792 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: when I signed here in Baltimore, and like you know, 793 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: not every guy is willing to essentially address that head on, 794 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: and he's willing to do that. And I think certainly 795 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: part of that comes with being humbled a little bit. 796 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: But I just appreciate that and a guy so yes, 797 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: you asked him at the end there you know what's 798 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: in store essentially, how big a season can he have? 799 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: What do you think, Garrett, let's go on record here, big. Yeah, 800 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: Well the ten touchdown marks. When I was trying to 801 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: put him on the spot. You're definitely trying to put 802 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: him on that one. And he he said, he said, 803 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: he can say yes, but I'm asking for European Garrett. 804 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: I think ten touchdowns is certainly within sight. I think 805 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: is he gonna do it or not? I quit hedgen No, 806 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna hit the tent tet chal Mark, 807 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna 808 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: say ten plus, probably more like the eleven range, double digits, 809 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, like if you had asked me at the 810 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I thought more around the eight 811 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: touchdown range. But he's got three games, should have four. Yeah, 812 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: you have the fourth in his hands, as he as 813 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: he admitted, huh. So. Yeah, I think that he's proven 814 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: that he's a big time red zone threat and Dennis 815 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: Pitta will elevate in that area. I think he will 816 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: become a definite red zone threat. But opponents know that too. 817 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: And Mike has shown that he can run every route. 818 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: He runs that slant very well. Um, so he's a 819 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: lot more than just a big play threat. So yeah, 820 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that he can hit ten touchdowns ten plus 821 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: this year, and I think he's gonna come in around. 822 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: You know, despite his hot start. You look at the 823 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: league leaders in in yards and he's not really even 824 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: in the I don't think he's in the top twenty. 825 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: He's not in the conversation there. He's got about a 826 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty receiving yards on the year. So I 827 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: think that he's gonna probably come in. If I had 828 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: guess around eight hundred yards, I would say, uh, you know, 829 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: it's sixty five catches yards maybe more catch us than that, 830 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: and around ten touchdowns. So, uh, that's a big year. 831 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: That's that's a very good thing. It's similar numbers to 832 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: what Tory posted here, and uh, that's that's pretty darn good. Yeah. 833 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: Especially we have a lot of other guys that want 834 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: to get their hands on the ball as well, So 835 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: we'll see what Mike can do on Sunday against the 836 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, another big game. Ravens are looking to stay undefeated. 837 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: And again I'll remind you guys to subscribe to the show. 838 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcast, Please rate and review and 839 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: seeing my thing. Remember that's my thing. Rate and review 840 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. We might we might read your review on 841 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: the air. 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