WEBVTT - J Valentine Part 1 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.000 R and B money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:08.000 Thanks. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:16.040 We are the authority on all things R and B. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:22.640 Ladiesship, and my name is Tank and today Special band. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:24.520 It's a very special. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.120 Before we get to the man in the hot seat, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.600 we're gonna start with a brother who's sitting in as 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:37.400 my co host, my co star. Uh, my brother from 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.000 another mother. Uh, the brother to the brother. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:41.760 Of you know what. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.800 We'll get to all that sitting right here, Robert New 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.440 We like to call him Bob. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:52.240 Come on building. How you doing, Bob? I'm doing great. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.320 You're doing great. Everything good to see. I like your shirt. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.960 I mean, you know, I don't figure we'll be a group. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:04.920 Okay, listen, ladies in the hot seat. As you notice 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:12.000 are our shirts. You notice our tire. It's gotten silky. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.200 It's gotten silky. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:14.080 Uh. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:20.280 This episode represents, uh, hit records and Coco Butter. That's 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:25.240 what this That's what this episode represents. Huh if you 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.520 if you look good, you play good. And if you 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.400 play good, they pay good. That's what this episode represents. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:39.679 Prime prime time, y'alln we gotta feel like something. It's 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:45.560 gotta look like something. Huh gets from inside out. This 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.040 man been doing this since he was a real little boy, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.200 jumping out of boxes and ship dancing everything. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:57.200 Jumping out of the boxes. Nikka cold with it. My 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.560 brother a co founder, Colder. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.720 Oh, they are the podcast. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:13.480 Time to wipe up out what you want. You want 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.440 to butt into the service right listen. They gotta get it, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.720 get it, they gotta get it. Asked brother, how you doing, brother? 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.480 I'm good man, Yeah, got me to do it. Man. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.840 First of all, we had to you know, as we 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.639 have you in the hot seat, you know, I had 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.840 to call somebody you know who knew you best. Of course, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.280 I'm saying, you know somebody who can who can who 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.119 can talk to you like you're supposed to be talking 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.480 to you. Understand what I'm saying. You might used to 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:45.120 kick your ass when you was little. You see the 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.840 original lead singer. You know what I'm saying. I have 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.000 to call the bominator himself. Man, this is awesome. Get 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.079 this together. Everybody feel like they say a double. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.680 Right now, the same it's already they got signed back 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.400 up for talk about it and then back up for him. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.160 Don't know how to sing back up, so I was 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.600 singing back up and lead at the same time. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.840 You don't know how to sing back up. I get 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:05.200 out there. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.840 That's your problem. When my shirt comes off, it's my time. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.959 It's not your time to take your shirt off too. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.600 Well in that particular, in that particular, in that particular, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.919 show tank you you bluff me. And we have been working. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.520 Out, We have been with the honets, we have been 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.280 working on. I couldn't and I had. I warned you. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.480 I said, listen, when your shirt come off, my shirt 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.200 come off, and you I didn't know you was gonna 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:28.240 you know, you'd be pumped backing now. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.400 I didn't know you was gonna pump fake some mine. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.000 You pump fake and mine came off like a vacuum 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.800 to yours off. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.360 The girls are screaming. I was like, I haven't taken 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.640 off you and I looked behind me. Your shirt is off. Yeah, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:46.960 that's I know. His bodyguard as this high was here 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.440 me d Night was screw is the brother Mark. It 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.640 was just screed tears. Jan Valentine. First of all, you know, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.640 thank you for being in the hot seat. It's been 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:01.760 a long time coming because I've been fighting with you 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:07.360 for quite some time to get you back into this 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:13.840 space of being the lead singer. Yeah, fighting with you 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.120 for a long time bro. You know, we had to 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:21.159 knockout drag outs about what the fuck Jay? Why not Jay? 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.160 And as many as many a young artist that has 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.599 come up and even come to this podcast and said, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.520 oh man, Jay Valentine. When I heard Jay Valentine, and 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.080 when I saw Jay Valentine, all of this influence that 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.120 you've had as you know, not just a creator, but 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.400 as an artist, I just. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.839 Felt like it was so much more left for you 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:50.480 to do. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So thank 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.960 you for finally coming to the come into the mind 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.320 of doing what you needed to do. We're here to 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:01.799 talk about, you know, because people haven't gotten the full 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.200 scope of who you are and where you're from and 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.440 how this all happened. We gonna go back to the 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.960 beginning about we going back to where this shit started. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:14.159 You know what I'm saying. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.440 And listen, you jumping and you lead it anytime you 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.160 feel like it. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.080 Okay, this is your world. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.479 So so what you're saying that, I want him because 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.520 people don't notice. I want him to tell people what 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.239 it feels like to start in the music business at five. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.520 He started at five, Like. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.120 You know what I mean, I'm talking practicing, learning routines, 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.040 street performing for change on Fisherman Wharf, Like, tell him 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.920 what that felt like, because you actually started the music 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:44.520 business at. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.919 Five, and I mean, obviously even I don't know what 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:53.440 that feels. Yes, it was. It was interesting because to 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.320 a certain degree it all I knew, all we knew obviously, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:02.640 and shit, I blame you, honestly, I blame you because 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.760 it was something that you had already done. Like I 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:12.240 think sometimes people talk about the Neutrons and Jay Valentine 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:17.919 now as Ryan Newsdream. I think that's only partially true, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.000 because I feel like it was five News Dream where 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:27.200 it kicked off to where that was something that you 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.559 were already full throttle into by the time I was five, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.520 because you were ten, you and Ronnie were ten, and 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:41.720 I was just following suit ultimately and being forced this thing. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.560 I mean really, I mean because I couldn't really sing, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.680 or to me, I couldn't really sing. I don't really know. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.200 I mean it's funny because we have people, we have 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.279 guests on here that's like, yeah, I was singing eighteen 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.680 months and not me. You know, It's just not something 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.880 that just happened naturally for me. It happened watching you 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.280 and watching you go after it and seeing how passionate 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.919 you were about it, and then I think I just 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.400 kind of started off as the mascot in a sense 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:20.320 because I was so little. Thank you, but you mentioned 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.840 it earlier. I was literally kind of a fucking jack 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.200 in the box. I was Jack in the box. I 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.600 didn't know that I was Jack in the box, but 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.560 I was Jack in the box because it would be 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:36.240 on Fisherman's Wharf and there was a certain time. So 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:41.280 Fisherman's Wharf is per thirty nine, is right on the water. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.000 If you go to San Francisco, it's something that you 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.240 just have to go to. You gotta visit. So all 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.480 kind of restaurants think it's in aquarium over there, like 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.800 the seals are right there right there on like the 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.080 little loading dock thing. And people from around the world 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.160 come there, and they've been coming there probably since you know, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.760 San Francisco was started whenever they could get there, and 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.680 it was a huge tourist spot. And the story behind 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.840 us in Fisherman's Worth was our brother Ron. He had 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.720 from his mom's side. He had family that used to strut. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.960 So strutting is like popping and locking and you know, 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:23.560 doing the whole you know all this, They still owe 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:28.000 me some money from day. So Ron's family, from his 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.240 mom's side, which is our family too, they were already 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.400 street performers. And my father had realized that, oh they're 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.920 making some money down there, and if he was making 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.400 some money, ran knew wanted in somehow someway. Well, no, 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.520 don't forget. He was on probation. I didn't know that 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.720 he was. I mean, he was always on We. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:51.760 Was on probation for welfare fraud. He was on probation. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.360 So this was a way for him to stay out 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:53.720 of jail. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.200 We became a new hole. No, I knew that. Yeah, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:02.319 I do that. I did that. Ladies, disclaimer, Bob will 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.600 say anything. He's going to tell the truth raw and 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.800 untut let us continue. We were to hustle, Yeah we were, Yeah, 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.760 we were. We were. We were the hustle. We would 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.840 have k new hustle. And he realized that, you know, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.720 some kids was down there. They was a little older 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.320 than us and they were making money down there. And 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.840 he's like, well, my kids need to be down there, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.520 but not just be down there. My kids need their spots, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.079 these spots, these spots because there was like a there 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.360 was a certain spot you get that money where the 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.000 parking lot was where if you were dancing right there, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.040 you're getting people right either coming out of their car 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.280 going into their car. Gotcha. He needed that, he needed 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.680 that spot, the spot that was already occupied. Yeah, so 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.600 some gangs shit happened, gangs of should happened. And let's 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.480 just say we got to our spot. That was our spot, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.520 and if anybody had a problem with that, they had 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.360 to go see in the car waiting whatever. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.520 Yeah, spot, you're gonna get this three to five hundred 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.840 a day, and don't y'all go nowhere. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.680 Near that spot. Yeah, he would go and he would 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.760 he would put us out there, put me. I would 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.400 be in that box. He would put me in the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.720 box out there, and then he would go in the 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.280 car and go to sleep. Yeah, unless we had any issues, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.560 if we had isshoes, we was going to the car 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.440 and then he was coming out the car. And that's 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.760 not what you want. What you want made me be 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:32.040 in the car's chilling. It don't make me chilling. So yeah, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.600 I was the I was the reveal. Yeah, right, because 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.959 I imagine that imagine you're going you taking the family 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.400 on vacation and a little five year old pops out 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.800 dancing and ship. You're gonna give him to You're gonna 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.640 give you give us something. You don't really got a heart. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:53.679 If you don't, you don't up. You gotta that, nigga, 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.560 If you don't give a kid that's popping out of 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:05.240 you hauled moving box pop pop locking with his three brothers. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:10.160 It was no. China not quit already. Sometimes yeah, she 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.880 was with it sometimes. So we were you know, we 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.480 were Jackson five Wow with a girl. Yeah. Yeah, China 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.040 played piano too early on. She was our piano player 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.960 for a minute too. Yeah, she she she was the 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.559 only neutron who got to quit because the rest of 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.199 us couldn't quit. He told us, if you quit, you 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:32.719 still got to practice, So that doesn't really quit. Still practice. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.920 You might as well stay in the group. So that's 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.400 what it was, not an option. Yeah, yeah, so so 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.240 so for me, that was my first entry into the 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.200 entertainment industry. And you know, as any little kid like, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.840 I loved the reaction. Yeah I didn't. I didn't like 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.760 the rehearsal and not being able to go outside and 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.960 all of that stuff. But the reaction from you know, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.480 these people of all walks of life literally like losing 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.040 it when we would perform, like they just loved us. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.199 They really, they really loved us. And and we made 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.240 a lot of money out there. I've always been a 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.120 shrewd business. But my dad used to actually have to 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.559 pay him to practice. He's the only one that got paid. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.000 But you were a baby too, so yeah, but I 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.640 just asked, also asked, you know what I mean, like, so, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:34.000 where the money you got? Yeah, you gave me that already. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.320 You gave me a dinner car. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.600 Okay, yeah, so that but you were you were at 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:47.640 an early age getting like high level tutelage. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.440 You know what I'm saying in terms of putting rehearsal 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.960 time in. Oh no, no, no, we were because that's 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.120 a lost We were fully locked in. That's different. We 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.440 were fully locked in. We we paid our dues as 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:04.160 far as as rehearsal and the ten thousand hours that 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.680 they talk about. Yeah, and I think sometimes you know, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.360 people they look at they look at our podcast and 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.079 they see the way I am as far as how 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.120 I am about the business and how how strict I 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.199 am about what you need to do to survive in 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.920 this ship, and it comes from that. They don't realize 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.840 that you did that. Now, it comes from experience. It 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.520 comes from experience, like you can literally throw me anywhere. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.240 I'm going to figure it out. I'm not going to drown. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.320 and that's for me. That's the thing that you know, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.679 in terms as we talk about artists development, it's missing 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.280 because that's the saving grace. Yeah. And a true established 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.600 work ethic along with the love for the sport. Yes, yeah, right, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.000 but a true established work ethic is going to help you, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.160 as you say, figure out, figure it out on any 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.720 Martin Luther King, Yeah, Okay, where I'm at doesn't matter 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:01.920 what we're doing. Cool, that's work matter. So so you 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.000 know from that age that that's I mean, if it 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.160 just it felt like what I was supposed to be doing, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.640 because that's what our whole house did. It wasn't like 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.040 I was the kid in the family and it's just 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.760 me and everybody's trying to figure out, like why is 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.960 he trying to sing or dance? No, we had a 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:24.040 house of entertainment. Everybody was a part of it. You 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.520 know what I'm saying. It's if it's our mother helping 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.840 with our father, pick out our outfits or being our 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.720 role manager or if it's our sister playing piano, or 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.000 trying to be the role manager or be a part 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.520 of it or collect the money. And you know it 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.440 was it was Bob was David Roughing and these are 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.720 the temptations in the beginning. No, seriously though, like because 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:50.880 he was very serious early on, Like Bob was very 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:56.080 serious about the art and about being a singer, you know, 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.960 Like for me it was obviously my first thing was 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.120 business because I was trying to get paid for practice 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.280 and ship. But Bob was really like, man, I want 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.040 to be famous. I want to sing. I want to 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.880 write songs. Bob literally is writing songs at what ten 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.000 eleven years old? Yeah, elementary love? That was the first 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.000 because where else is your love at that elementary school? 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:27.880 In elementary school? Was Brenda? Was Michelle what you wrote 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.640 that about? Yeah? So so are you guys? So you 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.160 are the neutrons at this point? Or does that? We 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.280 were always in the tru New Trunk five because it 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.040 had to be connected to the Jackson Ron. It was 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:46.080 very adamant on things being connected to that because that's 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.640 what was the top of the food chain. Yeah, and 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.560 these are you know my little boys, you know, they 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.640 they the next ones. You know, in his mind, this 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.840 is what his train of thought was. So if I 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.400 can attach that five, it's going to stick out, right, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.840 It's going to stick out the same way Jackson's five 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:08.120 sticks out. So for him, I always always feel like, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.960 you know, especially as I really learned the music business. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.160 He was a marketing genius. He was a marketing genius 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:20.400 and he just he was. He was putting it into children, though, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.040 which some of his marketing ideas were grown up ideas. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:30.560 They were. Have you ever seen the Neutrons suits? Yes, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.480 we had full suits. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.000 Yeah, we were dropping jumping all the way to the 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.400 when we had a record. He was having those made. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.680 He would go get the garments, take them down. You 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.600 go down to the garment, take them, have a maid. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.080 We got hearts cut into the blazers. It's sequence. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.520 It's our first stuff was made by Lily Nitt, who 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.760 dressed all the pimps of the Bay Area. If anyone 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:57.360 has ever seen the Mac, same lady who dressed all 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:02.320 the pimps dressed the Neutrons. Yeah, yeah, and I'm pretty 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.359 sure were the only kids getting clothes made there. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.400 You know how the name came about the neutrons. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.400 I don't know. Do you know what her name came about? 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:17.920 Go ahead, you tell them. So our father just if 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.399 you look at our name, obviously, our last name is 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.840 Nuke for people who don't know, my middle name is Valentine, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.840 my last name is new we're Newts, and my father's 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:33.600 name is Ron. So yeah, instead of Ron Newt, you 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.679 put the new here, you put the ron there. You 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.000 got neutrons. Now you have neutron. So we were just him. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.320 This was never a bount you never never. That's what 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:49.080 I want you to know. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.919 I told I told her a long time ago. I 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.359 told the story on on uh that part of the 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.600 story on Soul Train. I had to tell Don Carnelius. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.600 I had to let him know what it was. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.199 So so the talent and all of these things had 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.960 already had been identified and also impressed upon you that 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.600 this is what we're going to do. When is that 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.280 recognized for you on you know, on a high level 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.639 where it pertains to record companies and executives and that 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:17.160 type of thing. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.520 So so from five to about eight nine, we're just 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.040 practicing and doing any performance we're performing at everybody's parties, 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:32.640 all the adult events. You know. Somehow we were pulled 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.080 out of the car at you know, eleven thirty oh midnight. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.720 So yeah, he would be in full nightclubs. I'm talking 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:40.879 with drinking women. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.520 Yeah, like it was insane, ladies of the night, ladies 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:45.000 of the night. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.199 So RONI would always have like a limo or some 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.439 type of he'd be sleeping there until it's time for 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:50.399 him to come out the box. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.280 Yeah. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.439 And but this would be like one in the morning. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.360 Now my wad be like neutrons front and center, and 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.880 he would be pied. 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:04.920 Because I mean he's he's Hey. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.480 And New Truns Frond Center at like one in the 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.160 morning in the nightclub. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.879 And so literally that's what was crazy. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.439 Like we what he's saying about the hours, Like we 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:23.480 performed everywhere, every talent show you could do, everybody's house, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.840 in the right hood, barbershops. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.600 We stayed. We stayed performing in Double Rock. Yeah, so 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:34.919 Double Rockyover Rock. The neighborhood exists, but the actual product 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.760 projects don't exist anymore. They like redid the projects. But 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.160 we had family there and my father was from over 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.080 there from you know, Hollister, Holly Rocken Hollister and Double 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.480 Rock was connected, and he was he was from over there, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:55.320 and we would literally just go perform at people's houses. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.679 There are still people who DM me now talking about 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.280 us performing at their house as if I want to 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:12.600 remember that, but nah, but you know, it definitely brings 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.560 back memories. But we would perform everywhere whatever, and we 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.840 didn't understand that he was just preparing us for everything. 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:22.720 We thought it was, at least I did. I thought 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.600 it was punishment. Well, you know me, I just wanted 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.800 to perform any He wanted to perform anywhere. I want 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.280 to see all yeah, yeah, But for me, I was 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.920 just like, this is punishment. He wanted to get paid, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.520 not even that I wanted to get paid, because you 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:40.000 got to imagine too, your peers are there too. So 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.119 these are like kids that maybe we went to school with, 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.679 maybe you know, maybe it's our little cousin, maybe it's this, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.040 that and the other, and I'm like, and I got 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:51.360 to sing for them, like why you know what I mean? 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.639 Like at that age, I didn't get it. And it's 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.680 not like it's like I look at it now and 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.800 you know when people remind me, like, man, that was 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:00.480 just so cool. I didn't look at it like it 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.560 was cool. I looked at it like, man, like, why 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.919 am I being forced to do this when I, you know, 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.159 when I don't really want to. But then later on, 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.240 like I said, I understood that it was just preparation 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.160 because we were, like you said, it was Neutron's friend center. 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:16.960 It did not matter where we were. We could be 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.520 in the middle of a meal, we could be in 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.520 the I could be sleep in the back of the car, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.800 and we were ready to go immediately because we had 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.960 put in so much time and we had experienced so 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.520 much of it. So over that time, we were performing 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.520 it everywhere. The Circle Star it was this one venue 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.639 that we would sing at. We would pull up with 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.760 whatever big artists was there, you know, like we sang 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:42.760 there and like Diana Ross pulled Bob on stage and 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:43.280 we were. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:49.240 Just potatoes and everything killed it. I told her key 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:50.800 to put me in. I sang while the foods falling 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.760 in love. She snatched the mic quick as hell. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:22:02.000 So what we learned what veterans do you not? Yeah, yeah, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.960 this is not your show. But we would we would 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.680 just go and we would perform everywhere, you know, fairs, 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.600 and eventually, like I said, the singing kicked in. Maybe 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:16.760 it was quick from just breakdancing to singing and over 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:21.879 this time we're just rehearsing, we're performing, and our father 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.680 is fully immersed in the streets, fully immersed in the streets. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.680 At the time. You know, it's it's wars going on. 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.200 It's a whole bunch of dope, Dylan, it's a whole 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.680 bunch of shooting. This is our doors is getting kicked 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.080 in by the police. Like it's a wild time for 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.080 our house and our family, and we're just moving around 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.840 and around. I think maybe seven or eight we lived 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.399 in Indianapolis. Our father had Our father had a plug 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:54.280 in Indiana. He had a plug in Indiana. And you know, 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.360 we talked about this a little bit on the podcast 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.560 about how I hate road trips, and I said, the 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:03.000 reason I road trips is because when we would road trip, 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:17.000 we would do cross country with kilos and cocaine and 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.840 it would take us damn there a week to get somewhere. 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.800 So that's why I don't like riding in cars for long, 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.159