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Speaker 2: are a couple hours away at tip off Game six

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals, the Knicks trying to stay alive, needing

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Speaker 2: talking to our NBA insider, Mark Medida coming up at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of this hour. Coming up in the next hour,

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Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of NFL news to get to

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Speaker 2: as well. But here we are Martin on the final

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Speaker 2: day of May. Here in twenty twenty five, which, by

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Speaker 2: the way, is also my younger son, Garrett's birthday. He

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Speaker 2: is twenty seven years old today, twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 2: It was a good age, really good age. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: sort of really kick it into gear. I think by

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Speaker 2: you know, you pass twenty five, twenty seven, that's a

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Speaker 2: good age.

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Speaker 4: I feel like twenty six is when most men realize

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Speaker 4: that you are now legally functioning adult. Yeah, twenty seven

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Speaker 4: is almost like year one of Adulthood's good.

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Speaker 5: Good for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for him.

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Speaker 2: By the way he shares his birthday, I want to

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Speaker 2: mention three people that share the birthday with my son.

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Speaker 2: One of them is the manager of the Dodgers. Happy birthday,

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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts today he is fifty three years of age.

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Speaker 3: The great Dave.

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Speaker 2: Roberts also age eighty two today. Joe Willie Namath Joe

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Speaker 2: Namath's birthday today. And by the way, if I hear

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Speaker 2: one more person talk about how Joe Namath is one

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Speaker 2: of the most overrated quarterbacks of all two going through

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Speaker 2: fifty more interceptions in his career, then touchdown passes. Shut

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Speaker 2: up because you don't know what you're talking about. I

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Speaker 2: know Joe Namath from his day. In his heyday, he

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Speaker 2: was a trendsetter. He was ahead of his time, the

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Speaker 2: only quarterback by the way, to pass over fourths in

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Speaker 2: a fourteen game season. If you don't understand the impact

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Speaker 2: that Joe Namath had on professional football, don't pretend that

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Speaker 2: you know football. You know nothing. Joe Namath was one

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Speaker 2: of the most talented quarterbacks. He was saddled with a

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Speaker 2: bad Jets team for most of his career. Oh that's right,

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Speaker 2: he had two bad knees. He had major knee surgery

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Speaker 2: when they didn't even understand knee surgery back in the

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Speaker 2: mid sixties. Be ever before he ever even put a

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Speaker 2: foot down in professional football. I am defending Joe Namath

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Speaker 2: as one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history.

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Speaker 3: Of the game.

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Speaker 4: I love that Joe Namath was starring in the NFL

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Speaker 4: at the time. They weren't even sure where their knee

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Speaker 4: was and he had two major knee surgeries. They were

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Speaker 4: attached ankle to knees back in Joe Namath's day.

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Speaker 5: They didn't even have to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't even know what knee surgery is about.

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Speaker 2: This guy was hobbling the second he walked on at

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Speaker 2: professional FOOTBALLFELP.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, the amount of time I've start watching

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Speaker 4: Play football live is zero because I'm thirty five, correct, right,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the picture of him on Wikipedia.

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Speaker 3: It's in black and white. Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: Show you nineteen sixty five Joe Namath, this rookie year

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Speaker 4: with the Jets. But this is what I'll say, because

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Speaker 4: you know, Steve as I liked as a radio guy.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you have to be somebody who knows

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Speaker 4: the highlights and hits of every single decade.

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Speaker 3: Rank you.

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Speaker 4: Joe Namath is the reason why we care about quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: in the way we do, period, point blank. That's the

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Speaker 3: Joe Namath is the if Kennedy was the first television president,

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Speaker 3: Joe Namath was the first television quarterback. Broad Way.

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Speaker 2: Joe, I mean, when you think about a kid that

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Speaker 3: And then he ends up in.

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Speaker 2: to the favorite Colts and super Ball three. Now, one

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Speaker 2: other non sports person I want to wish a happy

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Speaker 2: birthday too. Happy ninety fifth birthday today to Clint Eastwood.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. I had no idea that to say. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still working ninety five years old today.

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Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood, that's the way to go.

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Speaker 4: I went down so again, thirty five years old, so

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Speaker 3: Or first full of dollars. But you've seen him.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you my old radio station overnight there was

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Speaker 4: the coffin man, I need three coffins, goes.

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Speaker 3: Bah bump, turns back, says make it four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 2: If it weren't for those movies, you would never have

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Speaker 2: heard of Quentin Tarantino, because Tarantino has basically said, those

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what he wanted.

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Speaker 2: I want to make movies like that, those great spaghetti westerns.

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Speaker 3: You've now made me.

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Speaker 4: Now go back down to my I think the first

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Speaker 4: It starts the path of the league down paying over

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Speaker 4: what he said. But then after that it was over with.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you see all the MVP quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: And does anyone that he's actually be Eli Manning was

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Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of Joe Namath, he was

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Speaker 3: But Broadway Joe guaranteed the win ahead of time.

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Speaker 2: Why was that pinache. Yes, and so happy birthday at

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Speaker 2: And I've been saying this now for the better part

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Speaker 3: And we've said this before, no team in.

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Speaker 2: The history of the NBA playoffs in the Best the

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Speaker 2: That's what the Knicks are trying to do in the

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Speaker 2: And right now the pressures on a team called the

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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers. Now, people get angry at me, Martin when

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Speaker 2: I hint of conspiracy theories, But it just seems there

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Speaker 2: of the league. Okse has earned their spot in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Team was the best team in the NBA. They won

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Speaker 2: and they did it all season long, But for them

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Speaker 3: Would be a yawn.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks. Oh, that's a whole different game. If the

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Speaker 3: Oh, and that's right, the young.

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Speaker 2: Ok seed team, the team of the future of the

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Speaker 3: Why am watching Harry you about this New York Knicks

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Speaker 4: There's literally nothing legendary about this next team.

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Speaker 3: You don't think Jalen Brunson has that kind of panaj.

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Speaker 4: I think Jalen Brunson is a star in this league.

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Speaker 4: But you just said legendary. There is nothing legendary about

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Speaker 4: this Knicks team that has won what one, two, three,

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Speaker 4: also reject on premise on face that watching the Indiana

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Speaker 3: And if you want to.

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Speaker 4: Say that Indiana is a boring place, you won't find

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Speaker 4: much argument for me. I'm not vacationing in Indianapolis. No

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Speaker 4: offense to anybody, But to say the Pacers player boring

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Speaker 3: Saying that's for decay.

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Speaker 2: It's not about a boring brand of basketball. The Indiana

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Speaker 2: Pacers are a deeper team than the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: They're a better team than the Necks.

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Speaker 2: And you can make the argument that when the Knicks

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Speaker 2: are playing the Pacers, Tyres Halliburn is the best player

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Speaker 3: Sure you can make that argument.

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Speaker 4: I would argue, I think that's clearly between he and Brunson, right,

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Speaker 4: And I think it kind of is what you like better?

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Speaker 4: Chocolate vanilla? Do you starberry your Superman flavored ice cream?

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Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that the league needs the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: They desperately need.

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Speaker 4: The next Why I love to Steve when it because

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Speaker 4: the league just because it's billion to.

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Speaker 2: Be honest with you, I don't think either the Knicks

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Speaker 2: or the Pacers are competitive against okayc So didn't we

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Speaker 2: say all season long. The Western Conference is so vastly

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Speaker 4: So your only thing is you would rather watch the

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Speaker 4: Knicks be the punch do You'd rather than see an

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Speaker 4: orange and blue punching bag than a yellow and blue

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Speaker 4: punching bag For the Western I think.

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Speaker 2: The league would rather see there will be more eyeballs

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Speaker 2: on the Knicks and the Pacers, and what I believe

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Speaker 2: is going to be a one sided NBA Finals, regardless

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Speaker 2: if it's the Knicks or Pacers, if it's got I

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Speaker 2: don't think either one of these teams could win more

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Speaker 3: You know, that was the question about OKC why everyone

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Speaker 2: Oh No, No, it will be the Lakers, it's going

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Speaker 4: I think that Indiana will be able to play them closely,

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Speaker 4: Indiana is only a thousand dollars, not four thousand for

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Speaker 4: Shalame and Spike Lee. It's all one Oh I got

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Speaker 2: And McAfee is like a pacers guy. He didn't he

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And Mike keeps is doing Friday. Yeah, yeah, don't

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Speaker 2: OKC is the new San Antonio Spurs, the San Antonio

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a huge.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what I'm listening to.

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Speaker 3: All right? You know how you felt about Joe name

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is how people and when when I was

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Speaker 3: This beat right here, boom, it's great love it.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the right with the right mechanical pencil,

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to I want to point out

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Speaker 2: because if you're an NBA fan, you really don't give

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Speaker 3: You want to just see.

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Speaker 4: And we've seen some of the record step the faith okay, excellent,

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Speaker 2: But the one team that doing the most damage obviously

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Speaker 2: forty two points. That's how dominant the Thunder were. Now,

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Speaker 2: keep this in mind. The Oklahoma City Thunder average age

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Speaker 2: the second youngest team ever to get to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: The only team younger was in the nineteen seventy six

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Speaker 2: seventy seven Portland Trailblazers led by the late great Bill Walton,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, we know about the trade. We're not going

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Speaker 2: to relive the Paul George trade over and over again.

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Speaker 2: That Landedham, Shay Gildess, Alexander, and more first round picks

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Speaker 2: this team will be I'm not gonna say it can be,

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Speaker 2: because they're already great. They had a sixty eight win

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's used to it.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City is going to add talent, They're going to

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Speaker 2: get better, They're going to gain from the experience of

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Speaker 4: You know, if I rewind to about three hundred and

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Speaker 4: seven hundred and twenty days ago and it's like, who

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you who's gonna stop it? Just fate

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Speaker 4: he still won sixty eight right, and he's also still

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Speaker 4: so can we I'm just saying this. We have seen

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Speaker 4: I say this, We've seen in Oklahoma City in particular,

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Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook did in James Harden.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Jay Dubb and ched Holm, grantiche,

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Speaker 4: we talk about all these picks, Nicole of Topic still

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Speaker 4: I bet you those three will be signed up long term,

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Speaker 4: but you gotta fill it out around the margins. Other

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Speaker 4: teams in the NBA are going to get better, like

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Speaker 4: the Minnesota Timberwolves have been in back to back Western

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Speaker 3: Clearly shown that they are not.

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Speaker 4: There's a step to be taken there they're gonna take

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Speaker 4: swings the teams Like the Lakers, They'll be taking swings teams.

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Speaker 3: So I say all this to say.

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Speaker 4: The second Apron has made it as such that while

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Speaker 2: Well, injuries can be a possibility, I acknowledge that, But

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Speaker 2: they when they focus on shutting down players. Look what

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Speaker 2: I mean the Julius Randall situation was ridiculous, completely shut

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Speaker 2: them down. Coming off that forty two point loss. I

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Speaker 2: lose a game by forty two points, it's got to

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Speaker 2: cast a little doubt in your mind, maybe we're not

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Speaker 3: They flipped it the very next game.

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Speaker 2: They go on Minnesota's home court, dominate Game four, and

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Speaker 2: I just see a certain temperament and this is you know,

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Speaker 2: when we talk about Ant.

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Speaker 3: He's a great player.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna ask you right now, if you could

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Speaker 2: which way would you go?

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards without a doubt?

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Speaker 2: Really Sunday, really thinking, why is it that you don't

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Speaker 2: each of the last three seasons and we saw what

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Speaker 4: Let's rewind because the way you phrase the question, you're

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Speaker 4: Gildish Alexander. It's just that in the first five years

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Speaker 4: of Anthony Edwards career, the only two.

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Speaker 3: People comparable is Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 4: I mean Lebron James and Kobe Bryant in terms of

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Speaker 4: playoff appears his wins and numbers like, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's the list. And you're giving me a primary.

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Speaker 4: Primary offensive scorer who also can turn the water off

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Speaker 4: from the best scorer on the other team three years old.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I'm building my franchise around answer.

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Speaker 3: Here is what And again no knock on Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 2: But I'm beginning to understand did we set the ceiling

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Speaker 2: too high on him? In other words, the idea that

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Speaker 2: he is going to be that generational talent he's going

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Speaker 2: to be. I mean, we heard Jordan comparisons. He's not

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan at twenty three years old. Michael Jordan wasn't

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. First of all, he didn't get it, have

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Speaker 2: to he hit play three years of college. But no,

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Speaker 2: he was. He was a superstar, superstars this and he

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Speaker 2: got in the league. All right, So take the three

459
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Speaker 2: years out they didn't have to support cast around.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's where we're at.

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Speaker 4: But if you begin for he was the league NBP

462
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Speaker 4: twenty three years old versus the other guys at his age,

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Speaker 4: sign me up for the rest of that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking back. I'm not taking any questions.

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Speaker 4: I'm not look And a lot of people just said

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Speaker 4: about Luca Nachez, they called the timberwolves. The Mavericks called

467
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Speaker 4: the timberwolves and said, what's the cost for Anthony Edwards?

468
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Speaker 4: They said, you know what, there is no cost?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm guilty of one of those people

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Speaker 2: that may be underestimated just how good shake Gilgess Alexander is.

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Speaker 3: I don't doubt him anymore. Okay, you know what, Let's

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Speaker 3: do this update and I want to bring this back

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: So we got Medina coming on, so he got a

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Speaker 2: lot of time here. But first let's find out what

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Speaker 2: is trendy right now. And Martin Weiss is here.

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Speaker 3: To update us on everything. The Baltimore Orioles.

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Speaker 4: Running Jackson holiday home run with a four to two

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Speaker 4: lead over the Chicago White Sox bottom of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 4: Bottom of the eighth Also the Brewers with a laugher

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Speaker 4: on FS one fifteen run difference to seventeen to two

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Speaker 4: over the Phillies Cardinals with the two run lead over

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Speaker 4: the Rangers bottom of the ninth inning. Bottom of the seventh,

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Speaker 4: the Guardians have tied it up with the Angels five

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Speaker 4: to five. End of the eighth inning. The Rockies added

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Speaker 4: a run, but it's still eight to two. New York

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Speaker 4: Mets top of the ninth inning. The Rays have a

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Speaker 4: fourteen to three lead over the Astros. Earlier today we

489
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Speaker 4: saw the Cubs beat the Reds two to nothing, Blue

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Speaker 4: Jays over A's eight to seven. The Braves beat the

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Speaker 4: Red Sox five to nothing and the Marlins blank. The

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Speaker 4: Giants won and nothing. Same with the Royals and the

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Speaker 4: Tigers that run being scored late and the I think

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Speaker 4: was actually a walk off for that game there and

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Speaker 4: then see where else do we have in the n FL.

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Speaker 4: Mark Murphy will be stepping down as the CEO team

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Speaker 4: president of the Packers July twenty fifth, he hits the

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Speaker 4: mandatory retirement age of seventy on those Yeah, it leaves

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Speaker 4: nearly after eighteen years on the job. Mookie Betts is

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Speaker 4: going to be out for at least this weekend series,

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Speaker 4: but hopes to be back in a few days after

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Speaker 4: that fracturing I'm sorry, after fracturing the tip of his

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Speaker 4: second left to at home Wednesday night while walking to

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Speaker 4: the bathroom in the dark. Florida Panthers forward Aj Greer

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Speaker 4: status for the serious opener against the Oilers uncertain, per

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Speaker 4: head coach Paul Maurice.

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Speaker 3: He missed Game four of the Eastern Conference Final.

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Speaker 4: He only played four minutes and twenty two seconds of

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Speaker 4: Game five in the Eastern Conference Final.

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Speaker 3: Back to us, all right, Martin, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we are coming to live from the

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the potential matchups in

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. What's going to go on tonight Game

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Speaker 2: six of the Eastern Conference Finals. Our NBA insider Mark

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Speaker 2: Medina is joining us right now, Mark, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: start with this. Is it unreasonable to say that Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 2: coming off of season which they've won sixty eight games,

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Speaker 2: setting wreckers for point differential in the postseason obviously will

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Speaker 2: be prohibitive favorites, whether it's the Knicks or Pacers in

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. A team that has five first round

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Speaker 2: picks over the next two years ten in the next

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Speaker 2: five years, second youngest team ever to get to the

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Speaker 2: NBA finals. Is it unreasonable to think that they will

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Speaker 2: dominate the rest of this decade in the NBA?

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Speaker 6: Well, Stave, I couldn't help but feel excited, asking if

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Speaker 6: there's a conspiracy theory that the Knicks are still.

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Speaker 3: In the Oh no, no, I'll get to that later.

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Speaker 6: I think the next decade strongly because at some point,

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Speaker 6: players like Channel Williams and chet Holmgren, they'll be up

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Speaker 6: for extensions. And that's where you know, the rubber will

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Speaker 6: meet the road, with the Thunder being the latest team

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Speaker 6: to have to face, you know, the second Apron concerns

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Speaker 6: and how you prioritize spending versus retaining championship team. But

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Speaker 6: I think they have a championship window obviously this season.

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Speaker 6: I think the next two seasons after that and whether

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Speaker 6: they face the Pacers or and probably the next I

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Speaker 6: think this is a wrap of a series. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: be over in four games, five games. It's gonna, I think,

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Speaker 6: bring a lot of reminders of the Spurs Nets in

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Speaker 6: two thousand and three or the Spurs Cavs in two

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Speaker 6: thousand and seven. What I'm getting at, Steve is that

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Speaker 6: the separation is very steep and it might make for

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Speaker 6: a very low rated NBA Finals series because the competition

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Speaker 6: isn't going to be that much.

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Speaker 4: Mark, you missed this last So me and Steve we

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Speaker 4: do this pretty much once a week now, where it's

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Speaker 4: like the come off after a truly inflammatory opinion. Apparently

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Speaker 4: Steve thought it was absurdity that I said I would

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Speaker 4: prefer based off the length of the NBA careers we

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Speaker 4: have seen thus far, I would start my franchise with

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards as opposed to SGA. Your thoughts and why

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Speaker 4: is it, Anthon, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just your thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you know what. I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have

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Speaker 6: to take Steve's side here. I would choose SG. I mean,

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Speaker 6: obviously he has an edge right now in the current

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Speaker 6: moment because he has a few years older than Anthony Edwardsville. Well,

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Speaker 6: I think we've seen so far in both players' careers.

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Speaker 6: Is a SJ. He is a more complete player. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he is a more dominant scorer. He knows how to

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Speaker 6: get to the foul line. Whether you like his craftiness

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Speaker 6: and acting as well as his shrewd useman of angles.

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Speaker 6: But he's an improved playmaker. He's an improved shooter. I

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Speaker 6: think Anthony Edwards has improved in those categories as well.

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Speaker 6: But I think the other thing that's suparating is leadership. Now,

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Speaker 6: you know, maybe SJA has it a little bit by default,

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Speaker 6: again because of age difference, but I think it goes

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Speaker 6: beyond that. I think it's also demeanor. SGA is very calm,

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Speaker 6: he doesn't try to create too much attention for himself,

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Speaker 6: but he's also very good with empowering teammates. And I

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Speaker 6: think with and it's mostly good, like teammates love his

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Speaker 6: infectious enthusiasm, positive personality, and he is a good worker.

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Speaker 6: But I think that there is sometimes some immaturity that

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Speaker 6: creeps in, whether it's you know, trash talking and getting

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Speaker 6: some unnecessary texts with because of interactions with the fans

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Speaker 6: or officials. And I think the other part is consistency.

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Speaker 6: We saw this playoffs last year's playoffs. There's games that

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Speaker 6: he would lay an egg, partly because he's not used

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Speaker 6: to getting so much defensive attention on the scattering report,

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Speaker 6: where with SGA, I'm not going to say he has

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Speaker 6: a perfect fastball every time he throws down the late,

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Speaker 6: but he's been more consistent. So sorry Martin, but I'm

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Speaker 6: with Steve on this one, I'd choose us Shie.

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Speaker 2: Well Martin, And I remind you again, no one knows

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Speaker 2: the NBA like Mark Medina and he just proved it

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Speaker 2: again once again. All Right, Mark, let's let's talk about

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Speaker 2: what the NBA is looking at as we go into

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Speaker 2: Game six. I agree with you one hundred percent. It

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Speaker 2: really doesn't matter which one of these two teams faces. Okay, see,

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Speaker 2: they'll be lucky to win a game in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: That being said, if the Knicks were to come back

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Speaker 2: to win this series, they make history. They'd be the

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Speaker 2: first team ever in any series that goes seven games

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Speaker 2: to lose the first two at home and come back

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Speaker 2: to win a seven game series. It has never happened

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Speaker 2: in NBA history. So you can imagine if the Knicks

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Speaker 2: were to force that Game seven win at the Garden,

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Speaker 2: there would just be a whole much interest in the

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks. It would be exposed in the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: but at least you would get that kind of momentum.

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Speaker 3: If the Pagers close it out.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, we are literally limping into the NBA Finals. So

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Speaker 2: I've been saying for even after the Knicks lost the

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Speaker 2: first two games, there are going to find a way

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Speaker 2: to win this series. That being said, how do the

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Speaker 2: Knicks win the game tonight?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that the way the Wick Knicks win

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Speaker 6: the game tonight are is a familiar formula. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson has to play at his absolute best and

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Speaker 6: be that clutch closer that he is. He usually has

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Speaker 6: done that, but there's other things that haven't always been guaranteed.

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Speaker 6: Color Anthony Towns has to play an all time level.

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Speaker 6: He has to limit his foals. We've seen that go

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Speaker 6: up and down. They also need to tap into what

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Speaker 6: makes them a good team. They're very resilient that are

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Speaker 6: very competitive win or lose. They're always bringing that lunch

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Speaker 6: pale mentality. But they also have to hope that Indiana

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Speaker 6: doesn't have the kind of intensity that they had in

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Speaker 6: the previous games that they closed out. They also have

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Speaker 6: to bank on Kyries Halburn and Aaron Nasmith not shooting

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Speaker 6: the ball well again, and I don't think that's going

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Speaker 6: to happen. Both those players lay in eight in Game five.

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Speaker 6: But I think what you're going to see with Indiana

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Speaker 6: is technically it's game six, but they're going to treat

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Speaker 6: it as if you know what, if we lose this game,

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Speaker 6: it may as well be a Game seven, because we

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Speaker 6: don't want to, you know, put the possibility of giving

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Speaker 6: the next confidence for a game seven at the guard,

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Speaker 6: and I think they're going to go all out with

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Speaker 6: Tyree Saliburn trying to carry the road both as a

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00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: passer and score, and every other player Pascal Siakam, Aaron Natesmith,

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Speaker 6: Miles Turner defend at a high level so that there's

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Speaker 6: no chance the Knicks come back. So I think the

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Speaker 6: Pacers close it out. But if the Knicks somehow do,

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Speaker 6: it won't be surprised, only because the Knicks have always

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Speaker 6: been competitive and too steve. As you often allude to,

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Speaker 6: sometimes the NBA can get a message across today, let's

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Speaker 6: help a big market team out to prolong the series

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Speaker 6: to help our bottom line.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm kind of hoping the Knicks make it

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Speaker 4: us have of the game series and actually advance to

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Speaker 4: the finals, because there's reports the finals make it canceled

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Speaker 4: if it's between markets Oklahoma City. But I will say

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Speaker 4: this in terms of the matchup, just talk about the

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Speaker 4: because I think we have I'm assuming let's just assume

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Speaker 4: the Pacers advance into the NBA Finals and they're playing

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder. It seems to be very much what

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Speaker 4: is it rock and whatever? I can't think of the

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Speaker 4: phrase the thunder one to force a ton of tonovers

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Speaker 4: the Pacers don't turn the ball over. Which side of

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Speaker 4: that of those of that dichotomy would win out in

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Speaker 4: your mind?

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Speaker 6: I ain't a thunder even though both teams have a

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Speaker 6: lot of depth. I think the Thunder would just run

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Speaker 6: away with it because shake Gilles Alexander. When you compare

666
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Speaker 6: him to Tyris Alburn, He's a much much better scorer now.

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Speaker 6: Tyres is a better passer, but I think SJ has

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Speaker 6: improved as a passer. He also has a lot of

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Speaker 6: great balance. Shlan Williams has become a much more reliable

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Speaker 6: secondary score. He has a lot of pick and roll

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Speaker 6: options with chet Holm, Grin and Isaiah Harden. Seeing as

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Speaker 6: big man so offensive depths, they can go toe for

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Speaker 6: toe with Indiana defensively. I think is where their calling

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Speaker 6: card really lies because they have so many of those

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Speaker 6: hustle and tangible type wing players. You know, think Alex Caruso,

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Speaker 6: challeng Williams, lou dort Case and Wallace they're all wing players,

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Speaker 6: but they all have different dimensions. Lou Dor, you know,

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Speaker 6: real physical type of guy, Alex Caruso a scrappy type

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Speaker 6: of guy, and Jalle Williams and Case and Wallace in between.

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Speaker 6: And so they're going to be able to kind of

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Speaker 6: slow down the Pacers with their pace, but also use

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Speaker 6: their defense to generate a lot more offense beyond just

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Speaker 6: SGAs scoring brilliant and the fact that they have other

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Speaker 6: great shooters and post players around them. So I think

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Speaker 6: when you add all that up, it's going to be

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Speaker 6: five maybe six game series, only because there might be

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Speaker 6: a game or two that the Thunder don't bring the

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Speaker 6: necessary intensity because they feel comfortable. But I think we're

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Speaker 6: we've seen the playoffs, and what we'll continue to see

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Speaker 6: is Oklahoma City is just buying away a much better

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Speaker 6: team than the entire rest to the field.

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Speaker 5: Well, the way I.

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Speaker 2: See a mark as far as tonight, the Knicks pull

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Speaker 2: out a miracle, that's one option, like you're like.

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Speaker 3: What happened here? They won the game?

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Speaker 2: Or or it's an absolute Pacers blowout and you know,

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Speaker 2: click click click go. The television sets in major cities

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Speaker 2: around America. But that's Okay, that's okay. What the best

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Speaker 2: teams there? I think any DA is a better team

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Speaker 2: than the NIX right now. If they get there, they

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Speaker 2: deserve it. Mark, thanks so much, And I really personally

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Speaker 2: appreciate showing off your expertise for Martin.

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Speaker 3: I really really appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Steven, Martin, Steve, this time I agree with you.

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Speaker 6: But I think the thing is I always try to

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Speaker 6: be authentic and if I disagree, not afraid to share.

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Speaker 6: That's what makes for great sports talk. Greats. You guys

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Speaker 6: are doing great.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much. We always appreciate it, Mark Medina.

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Speaker 2: There are NBA insider here at Fox Sports Radio all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, a rule change, a

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Speaker 2: real change that does not make any sense.

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Speaker 3: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bet, Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Harbin, Martin Weiss

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Speaker 2: with you. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Before I get to this rules change, I want to

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Speaker 2: give you an opportunity, Martin, for your report of what

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Speaker 2: I was being said in defense of the consistency of

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Speaker 2: an SGA over the often immature antics of in it

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Speaker 2: pretty much the way he explained it.

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Speaker 3: Because here's it, when you have when we're having.

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Speaker 4: These conversations, and it's not just Mark Medina or you,

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Speaker 4: Steve Hartman, it seems to be the entirety of the

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Speaker 4: NBA discourse from from Kendrick Perkins on down. It seems

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Speaker 4: that everyone has forgotten that Anthony Edwards is at least

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Speaker 4: three years younger than all of the people that we

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Speaker 4: are comparing him to. And if you scale back to

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Speaker 4: three years ago, for all of these people, they were

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Speaker 4: not nearly in the level of conversation where they were now.

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Speaker 4: Three years ago, Shake gilds Alexander played fifty games the

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Speaker 4: year before that, thirty five Shake gives Alexander did not

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Speaker 4: start to score more than twenty five points a game

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Speaker 4: until last year.

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Speaker 2: Like that, is he on a hell of a run? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm at my one question. Then I'll get

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Speaker 2: to this rules change. Do you believe that Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 2: made a step up in his game this year from

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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Okay, that's all I want to hear. All right, he.

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Speaker 4: Went he went from being an average three point shooter

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Speaker 4: to leading the league and makes.

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Speaker 3: All right, So there you go. So it's about trajectory.

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Speaker 3: That's why I say it's shady Guildens.

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Speaker 2: Alexander SGA look at the trajectory of his career, and.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is the early years, and said Gildes,

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Speaker 4: Alexander's career, he was a throw in in a trade.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're sitting here three years from now, will you

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Speaker 2: could have the last laugh or Marko Medina and I will.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's a rules change that I do not get.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Martin, that I have an obsession with

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Speaker 2: college football, so much so that the two most significant

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Speaker 2: days on my calendar in sports.

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Speaker 3: One of them will be Monday.

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Speaker 2: The other happens on the day of the National Championship

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Speaker 2: Game in college football, but it has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the National Championship game. That is the day they

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Speaker 2: announced the new class of the College Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Same day, what's coming up on Monday they will announce

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Speaker 2: the ballot, the final ballot for the class of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six for the College Football Hall of Fame. So,

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Speaker 2: needless to say, I have a very very distorted obsession

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Speaker 2: about the college Football Hall of in because I love

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Speaker 2: college football.

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Speaker 3: But there was a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of noise about my Leach when he passed away untimely

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Speaker 2: a few years ago and people found out he wasn't

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Speaker 2: eligible for the College Football Hall of Fame with a

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Speaker 2: five ninety six career winning percentage. Why because he had

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Speaker 2: rules saying to be eligible, you have to had at

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Speaker 2: least a six hundred winny percentage. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 2: you must have coached at least ten years. So the

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Speaker 2: College Football Hall of Fame announced, well, we're going to

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Speaker 2: lower it from six hundred to fifty nine to five.

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Speaker 2: Now that you're rounded up to six hundred, which, by

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Speaker 2: the way, not only makes Mike Leach eligible, Les Miles,

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Speaker 2: how about Kirk Farrence also suddenly becomes eligible down the

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Speaker 2: road if he maintains the same pace, you know.

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Speaker 3: He's still not eligible.

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll nine years at US, he's not eligible for

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Speaker 2: the College Football Hall of Fame. So here's what I

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Speaker 2: suggest for the College Football Hall of Fame. Stop with

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Speaker 2: the idea that you have to have standards to decide

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Speaker 2: whether or not somebody is a Hall of Famer. Howard

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Speaker 2: Schnellenberger laid the groundwork for the University of Miami to

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Speaker 2: become one of the dominant forces in college football of

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Speaker 2: all time. He was the one that put it in

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Speaker 2: motion winning that first national championship. His winning percentage is

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Speaker 2: nowhere near six hundred. He belongs in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll belongs in the Hall of Fame. You've got

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Speaker 2: guys in the Hall of Fame that don't deserve to

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Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. And so I would

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Speaker 2: say the same thing with college the players, you have

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Speaker 2: to be on at least one first team All American.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember Drew Brees back in

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Speaker 2: his days Purdue breaking all kinds of NCAA records. It's

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Speaker 2: not eligible for the College Football Hall of Fame because

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Speaker 2: he didn't make a first team Hall of Fame. These

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Speaker 2: are rules that need to be eliminated. A Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famer is a Hall of Famer. Forget any kind of

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Speaker 2: preset rules.

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Speaker 4: The one that I do like is the coach at

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Speaker 4: least one hundred games or coach for ten seasons. Why

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Speaker 4: just simply because I feel like if you only like

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Speaker 4: Ford like, there could be an argument Deon Sanders maybe

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Speaker 4: should be in the College Football Hall of Fame because

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Speaker 4: of the impact. I think when you get into impact

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Speaker 4: versus actual winning and losing it gets rough, all right.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of NFL news we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to coming up in the next hour, breaking it down

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Speaker 2: right here.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday. Please, you're listening to.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio, rolling along here on another huge

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Speaker 2: sports Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday. We are broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. We're gonna check in with

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Speaker 2: our NFL insider Adam Kaplan coming up here in about

818
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes. You got a lot of NFL news, big

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Speaker 2: trade talk involving the forty nine Ers and the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna share that, coming up with Adam Kaplan.

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Speaker 3: A little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we are in our way of tip off

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Speaker 2: here between the Knicks and the Pacers, and I just

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Speaker 2: believe in my soul that some way, somehow, the improbable

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00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: is gonna happen. The Knicks are going to steal one

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Speaker 2: in Indiana, go back to the Garden, get into the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals where they'll get blitzed by ok Ac, but

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Speaker 2: it won't matter because there'll be a lot of interest.

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Speaker 3: In New York.

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Speaker 2: Are you are you a conspiracy guy at all at all?

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Speaker 3: Martin?

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Speaker 2: Or do you see things happen that defy explanation other

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Speaker 2: than they are a predetermined situation.

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Speaker 4: I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it's I think

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Speaker 4: it goes the opposite way. I don't think that I

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Speaker 4: don't have enough trust and faith in humanity and the

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Speaker 4: powers that be in the wheels that could screw the

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Speaker 4: the or the you know, the wheels that could to

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Speaker 4: push the screws, so to speak, to be able to

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Speaker 4: make it. There's too it's too big, there's too many.

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Speaker 2: But how many times do you watch an NBA game

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Speaker 2: and you're screaming about a foul or a non foul

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00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: or you know, it happens every game? Right, I mean

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Speaker 2: you're like, what are you looking at? What's happening here?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: But I okay, so like would you?

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Speaker 4: I don't also don't think that there's a grand conspiracy

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Speaker 4: that people are trying to, you know, causing car accidents.

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Speaker 4: But I just think that often more off than not,

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Speaker 4: you end up with some a lot of bad drivers,

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Speaker 4: saying the same concept. In the NBA, a lot of

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Speaker 4: bad referees, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you don't see any favoritism to individuals or

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Speaker 2: teams with the NBA officiating.

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Speaker 4: Right, But do you ask me if I believe in conspiracy.

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Speaker 4: I think conspiracy is different than like the conspiracy is

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Speaker 4: there is a message from on high to say this

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Speaker 4: has to happen. Like when I see that Draymond Green,

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Speaker 4: for example, gets the leeway of a million, gets the

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Speaker 4: leeway of any six NBA players after you get this

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Speaker 4: first technical foul, is that a conspiracy or is that

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Speaker 4: I don't buy that conspiracy. I don't think that there's

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Speaker 4: a message coming down from Adam Silver saying you have

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Speaker 4: to keep Draymond Green in the game, Like that would

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Speaker 4: be conspiracy to me.

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Speaker 3: A couple early fouls on a key player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you know, you could call two quick

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Speaker 2: fouls on Halliburton all of a sudden, He's sitting on

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Speaker 2: the bench for the rest of the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Nicks piled up a double digit lean.

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Speaker 4: So honestly, the game that was a Game four of

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Speaker 4: the Western Conference Finals, that one that was kind of close.

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Speaker 4: Anthony evergs and take a ton of shots in the

874
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 4: first that game fo him three those game four. So

875
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: in that after game three, I was talking with a

876
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: buddy of mine, like, what do you do shake gildas

877
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: Alexander keeps getting this whistle? I said, I would put

878
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards on him for the prime most of the time,

879
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: I would force the referee to say, no, you're fouling him,

880
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 4: because I get what you're saying.

881
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: It's like, but I think it's also a level of.

882
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 4: We see how adept a person is at drawing these fouls, right,

883
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: So then my natural inclination is when he does fall

884
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: down or does something and to embellish what should be

885
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: a call or what he feels like to, you know,

886
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: to basically trick the refreaeson too making a call.

887
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 3: It becomes do I want to be wrong here?

888
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: I think happens much more than I need to make

889
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 4: sure this outcome happens here.

890
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: Here's here's Here's.

891
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: The thing that makes me believe that they could get

892
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: away with it if they're going to go in that direction,

893
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: is they've allowed these playoff games this year in the

894
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: ENDBA to be very physical. I mean we're seeing a lot.

895
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean you're watching guys body up on guys and

896
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: there's nothing, no calls, guys swiping away. I mean they've

897
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 2: been really allowing them to get away with a lot,

898
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: which I don't mind. By the way, let them play,

899
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: let the players decide the outcome of the game, sure,

900
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: but as an official, you could flip that in a second.

901
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: You could say, all right, you know, no, no, no,

902
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: you did a little too much, like what who what?

903
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: What happened here?

904
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for you know, the whole series,

905
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: and now you're gonna call the foul, Well, it's a foul.

906
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: I do think there's a level of inconsistency from game

907
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: to game that bothers people. But I think what I'm

908
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: especially hearing from the Western Conference side of things, which

909
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: to me was a little more physical than these from

910
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: conference side of things, that things were breaking down. You

911
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: heard it a lot from Steve Kerr when they were

912
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: still alive. You heard it from Chris Finch as they

913
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: were going along.

914
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: It.

915
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: To me, I think the.

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: Biggest issue with officiating in the postseason is inconsistency throughout

917
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 4: the game. If you're gonna call a very physical game

918
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: in the first quarter, it should be very like there's

919
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 4: no touch fowls on the fourth quarter. Then if there's

920
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: touch fowls in the first quarter, okay, then everything is

921
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: a touch foul, right, And I think that's where you

922
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: see guys who are truly getting upset. I think that's honestly,

923
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: some of what plays in with shake yogis Alexander. He gets,

924
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: I think a grander whistle in part because he will

925
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: embellish those touch fowls a little more.

926
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, much more on that game as we

927
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: get a little bit closer.

928
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about something that we've been talking

929
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: about Martin over the last couple of weeks, and that

930
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: is the decision by the NFL to allow players to

931
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: participate in the flag football competition in the twenty twenty

932
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: eight Olympics. And you know, once again you're reminded we

933
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: already have a USA flag football team. The coach, Darryl

934
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: d said, is sitting there, going what's happening here. We

935
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: have players that have been participating in this sport for

936
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: years who could not have been more elated to find

937
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: out that they're actually going to get an opportunity to

938
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: compete in the Olympic in a sport they have been

939
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: committed to. And now you're telling us none of them

940
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: will be on the team, that you're going to replace

941
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: all of them with NFL players, many of which have

942
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: never played flag football in their entire life. He's been

943
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: trying to explain to people. If you think you can

944
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: just put the flags on and understand this game, you

945
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: don't know flag football. There is a bigger strategy in

946
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: not getting tackled and not getting your flag pulled, or

947
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: conversely tackling somebody and pulling a flag. They take two

948
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: different skill sets. Can you imagine if we sent our

949
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: NFL stars in the Olympics in flag football and they lost.

950
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: This isn't like basketball, where there is a game it's

951
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: the same game, all right. Basketball is basketball. You put

952
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: the best basketball players on the court, like we did

953
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: with the Dream Team, they're going to win. This is

954
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: not even the same sport. The only comparison they use

955
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: a football in the sport. Does the NFL run the

956
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: risk of actually losing at the Olympics with players that

957
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: have never really played the sport going against players that

958
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: have played the sport for years and really undermine their goal,

959
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: which is to somehow get that international stage to sort

960
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: of put American football on the map. Would they be

961
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: better served that they just allowed the best flag football

962
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: players in the United States to participate in the Olympics.

963
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: What's going on here? What are we doing? You don't

964
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: believe in this, You don't believe they're two different sports.

965
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: Sure, there are two different sports, but no, I mean,

966
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 4: even if they are two.

967
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Different sports, flag football is not tackle foot. But you

968
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: know what it is. It's seven on seven and actually

969
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: it's five on five in the Olympics. Okay, well, it's

970
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: seven on seven everywhere else in.

971
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: All high school football and the springball and all of that.

972
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: That's what all these kids go up playing. Every quarterback

973
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 4: that you've seen now under thirty grew up playing seven

974
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: on seven. Every defensive back and wide receiver that you

975
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: see now under thirty grew up playing seven.

976
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: They were kids, not as an adult.

977
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: Right, But you know what the reality is, Steve, By

978
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: the time that this Olympus happens in twenty twenty eight,

979
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes will be thirty something.

980
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: He won't be playing Your boy due settle be forty five.

981
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: So let's say it will be Jayde and Daniels as

982
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: your quarterback. All right, he might not even be playing.

983
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: He'll be alright for three years.

984
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: He three years maybe, but we'll see in three years potentially.

985
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: But even then, Jayde and Daniels is a seven on

986
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: seven quarterback. He grew up playing that function and playing

987
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: that Sanders. Okay, okay, you know what he'll find, they'll

988
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 4: be the best quarterbacks out there. And the reality of

989
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: it is, unless it's such a different football game that throwing.

990
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Look a five on five, that's that's the formats five

991
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: on five. You have a center, you have two receivers,

992
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 2: a quarterback, and then sort of a wild card guy.

993
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: He'd be a running back and another receiver. Same thing

994
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: on defense, we have one rusher of the quarterback. And

995
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna go against countries with teams that have obviously

996
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: inferior athletes but actually know how.

997
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: To play the sport. Steve, you're running at risk.

998
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: The Yeah, the risk is that somebody goes out there

999
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: and pops in achilles or terrists in acl But the

1000
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: reality of the situation is, is it the rule? Do you

1001
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: have to be seven yards back to blitz every time

1002
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: you want to blitz? All right, fine, as soon as

1003
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: you come, I'm sending somebody on. I'm sending Tyreek Hill

1004
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 4: or whoever. The equivalent is that eight years from now

1005
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: on a slant behind you and you're.

1006
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 3: Hitting my head.

1007
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: I'm hitting my head on the goalpost. Because you know

1008
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: it sounds cool. The whole Oh you gotta really start

1009
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: get tackled, you know, the keid to not getting tackled

1010
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: in the NFL running faster than everybody. And you know

1011
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: what you're gonna find here, literal guys who if they

1012
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: weren't so short or muscular or whatever, probably some of

1013
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: them could have tried out for Olympic trials and sprinting.

1014
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: Would they have made it, No, but they could have

1015
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: tried out for it. You're telling me these are some

1016
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 4: of the fast people on in the planet. Like this,

1017
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: like the idea that it's I'll tell you what.

1018
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: It's real cute. It's really cute. It's it's really cute.

1019
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: And so what do you say to those members of

1020
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: the team USA that have played for years with the

1021
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: hopes of someday having an opportunity to play in the

1022
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Olympics or sport is finally tabbed to play in the Olympics.

1023
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: Olympics and they're saying, now, take a seat. I was tay,

1024
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: congratulations you walk so authors can run? All right, Well,

1025
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: let's say I'm just saying now that it's gonna be interesting.

1026
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: But the venues, by the way, you think this guy

1027
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: that is the current USA flag football he's a quarterback.

1028
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: This guy you said, he's not the coach, he's actually

1029
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

1030
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: He's like, playing quarterback in the NFL is not the

1031
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: same thing as playing quarterback in flag football.

1032
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: That's cool, two different things. That's cool, that's awesome.

1033
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: All right, good for him, But you know what, I

1034
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: have a feeling in the NFL quarterback. I'll put it

1035
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: like this, Playing quarterback in the NFL not the same

1036
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: as playing flag However, if you were to ask me

1037
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: which one was gonna have the better crossover.

1038
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: Success, the answer is easy. All right, we'll find out

1039
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: on the road. All right.

1040
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, there's a big trade

1041
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: in the works around the NFL. We're gonna get to

1042
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna check in with our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan.

1043
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,080
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1053
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1054
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Speaker 2: lives at three sixty five?

1055
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Is the man joining us right now?

1056
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: Our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan. So, Adam,

1057
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a lot of buzz right now of a

1058
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: potential trade with the forty nine Ers and Eagles involving

1059
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Bryce Huff. Yeah, and I have to admit, you know,

1060
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: I remember a couple of years ago with the Jets.

1061
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: He was sort of like this breakout guy, and I

1062
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: remember thinking, like, why haven't I heard of this guy?

1063
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: He was undrafted out of Memphis. He basically played a

1064
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: multitude of positions. You know, it was just the fact

1065
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: that he made the Jets team said something, He's playing

1066
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: a little linebacker, a little defensive end. And then in

1067
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, he's got ten sacks, by the way,

1068
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: didn't start a single game, and then the Eagles rewarded

1069
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: him with this huge contract and he completely disappeared for

1070
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: the Eagles a year ago, and now all of a

1071
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: sudden people are saying, wow, is this the trade that

1072
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: could put the forty nine ers over the top. And

1073
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, what exactly? Okay, tell us because I know

1074
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: no one falls the Eagles like you do. Who is

1075
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Bryce Huff and is he a guy that potentially could

1076
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: have a big impact for the forty nine ers if

1077
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: this deal gets done.

1078
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 7: It steals getting done long as he passed the physicals.

1079
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 7: So this is what happens. So Bryce Off, Okay, this

1080
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 7: is Steve. I'm going to take what you said and

1081
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 7: take it even farthest. So here this is how little

1082
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 7: Bryce South had interest around the college football. Bryce Off

1083
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 7: is from Mobile, Alabama. Right, he doesn't even get invited

1084
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 7: to the Senior Bowl, which is in Mobile, Alabama. Okay,

1085
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 7: that tells you that he was on anyone's red. He

1086
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 7: was not drafted, So the Jets bring him in because

1087
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 7: he's got athleticism, makes the roster as a rookie works

1088
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 7: his way up, becomes arguably in twenty three the NFL's

1089
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 7: best subpackage rusher.

1090
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 5: Okay, best ed rusher coming off the bench. Okay.

1091
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 7: He signed a three year, fifty one million dollar deal

1092
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 7: first two years full of guaranteed.

1093
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 5: He comes in. Now.

1094
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 7: The part of why he struggled with Eagle Steve is

1095
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 7: the scheme that the Jets run their front is is

1096
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 7: the wide nine, where the ends play outside the tackles

1097
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 7: and they can get a feel like they they're running

1098
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 7: joke as they play the run on the way to

1099
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 7: the quarterback, like they're just there to get to get

1100
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 7: to the quarterback. So it didn't work here, vic Fangio

1101
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 7: stands up his edge rushers. He was a hand in

1102
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 7: the dirt pass rusher for the Jets. It didn't work

1103
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 7: with the trade and then the Eagles paying part of

1104
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 7: his salary. He'll essential has made twenty six million dollars

1105
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 7: for one season with the Eagles. It's got obviously some embarrassing,

1106
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 7: but the Eagles moved on the Niners. Now he's reunited

1107
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 7: with Robert Salah, his head coach with the Jets. That's

1108
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 7: part of it, obviously because he is intimate knowledge of Huff.

1109
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 7: And then the other part of it is Chris cu Sarah,

1110
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 7: the defensive line coach for the forty nine ers. He

1111
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 7: runs the wide nine. So it's a great match now. Well,

1112
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 7: it helped him sure they're really light. They missed badly

1113
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 7: on Drake Jackson the Niners did. It was a second

1114
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 7: round edge rusher from a couple of years ago out

1115
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 7: of USC He just never contributed.

1116
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 5: They cut him. He had a knee injury.

1117
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 7: He'll be able to play again, but they cut him.

1118
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 7: They weren't going to use him, so that was a

1119
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 7: bad mess of second rounder. They drafted mike L Williams,

1120
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 7: an edge rusher from Georgia, who was their first round pick,

1121
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 7: and then of course got Bosa next to him.

1122
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: They had like no depth at edge and this is kind.

1123
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 7: Of a one year situation where he could certainly help

1124
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 7: him that with the Ford Steve, they know they had

1125
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 7: to get another edge rusher and that's why the Niners

1126
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 7: did this.

1127
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 4: Adam, I want to change gears here to the Dallas Cowboys.

1128
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1129
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer was asked about Joe Milton and it became

1130
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: a talking point about Dak Prescott and his development.

1131
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: Now I get that shot. He's been in the league

1132
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: for quite some time.

1133
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: But is this like a the way it came out

1134
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: talking about how Dak is you still work in development

1135
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: things with Dak? Is this kind of a I don't

1136
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: want to say, a sign that he's in over his head,

1137
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 4: but a sign that maybe he's not exactly aware of

1138
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: just how much weight the words.

1139
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: He says as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys

1140
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: as Yeah.

1141
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 7: It did come make It's funny you brought that one

1142
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 7: up because the media blew it up.

1143
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 5: Face blew it up.

1144
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: Because you know, when you put something on social media,

1145
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 7: you can't get contacts ever on social media.

1146
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 5: It's like next impossible exactly. So yeah, it just didn't

1147
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 5: come out right. Shot Himer knew that.

1148
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just yeah, I was by the way,

1149
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 7: Joe Milton, Joe Milton, if he could ever find any accuracy.

1150
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 7: I mean, the kids got a major arm. I mean

1151
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 7: I saw sustuinabwl. But he's actually horrendous and that's why

1152
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 7: the Patriots who draft him had no use for him. Look,

1153
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 7: they're expecting him to be the backup quarterback, and as

1154
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 7: you know, guys, the backup quarterbacks one gingery way.

1155
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 5: This kid, though, has got an unbelievable arm.

1156
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 7: But there was a reason why the Patriots who drafted

1157
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 7: him said, you know what, we'll just take what we

1158
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 7: can get, which is a late round pick. They got

1159
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 7: rid of him after one season, so that does tell

1160
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 7: you a lot.

1161
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: One of the big mysteries to me from the last

1162
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: season twenty twenty four was what happened to Tyreek Hill.

1163
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I know they have.

1164
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: Injuries at quarterback, but this is a guy coming off

1165
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: back to back seventeen hundred yard receiving years in Miami,

1166
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 2: and last year he didn't even have a thousand yards average,

1167
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: less than twelve yards a catch, only six touchdowns, only

1168
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: fifty six yards a game, and he started every game,

1169
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: And it was like, what happened? I mean, we see

1170
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: guys get old. It was the first season that he

1171
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: did not make the Pro Bowl. And now all of

1172
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: a sudden there's some hint that the Dolphins might be

1173
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: interested in moving him. I know, the GM sort of

1174
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: kiddingly said, yeah, sure, they give me a couple of

1175
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: number one picks, but you know, the way his contract

1176
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: is structured, they may be moving him as we get

1177
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: close to June first, June second.

1178
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: If so, would that be a good move for Miami?

1179
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: And what kind of market, if any, right now is

1180
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: there for Tyreek Hill?

1181
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 7: Not much right now. Here's the problem. Okay, a couple things.

1182
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 7: First of all, he's coming off of risk surgery. Okay,

1183
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 7: he was clearly hampered. In fact, he heard it in August, Steve,

1184
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 7: he heard it in a joint practice with Washington, and

1185
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 7: he was never the same. He struggled with it and

1186
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 7: then obviously to it with his injuries. But it was

1187
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 7: really it's really a Hill's wrist injury, which he played

1188
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 7: through to his credit, and then he woind up having

1189
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 7: surgery after the season.

1190
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: So that was a problem.

1191
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 7: Now let's look at kills contract because you always have

1192
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 7: to talk about money when you talk about trading a

1193
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 7: player who's an older player. Now, tyryk Kill worst time gone.

1194
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 7: He's he's now thirty one years old. The problem is

1195
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 7: his contract after the season. Well, first of all, the

1196
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 7: total cash this season is over twenty eight million. It

1197
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 7: makes it very untradable. The season after that, the total

1198
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 7: cash is thirty six million. It's an untradeable contract, folks.

1199
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 7: He's it's just like, you know what's interesting, Steve is

1200
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 7: and I was like, most people won the Chiefs trade.

1201
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, how are they going to overcome this?

1202
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: Right? You and I both said that, Yeah, I'll admit

1203
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 3: I was wrong.

1204
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 7: And I remember Joe Banner, the former Eagles president telling

1205
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 7: me that that people are going to be wrong about

1206
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 7: this and he will find a way to manufacture offense

1207
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 7: that he did and they've not really won much. I mean,

1208
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 7: they did the playoffs with Tarry Kill, but they haven't

1209
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 7: gone anywhere. I understand why they did it. When a

1210
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 7: guy you're talking about, one of the best receivers in

1211
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 7: the NFL over the last twenty years, you can get him,

1212
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 7: you make the trade for him, but he's in his thirties.

1213
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 7: In the contract, by the way, they're fiercely trying to

1214
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 7: trade Jalen Ramsey. They're going to get this done. They're

1215
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 7: trying to get a team to take a chunk of

1216
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 7: the contract.

1217
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: So are the Rams going to get him back?

1218
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 7: I mean, well, the Rams want him, but you know,

1219
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 7: Dallas has some interests. The Rams are the one that's

1220
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 7: they've made it clear they want them, but they're not

1221
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 7: taking on the bulk of the contract. And that's the

1222
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 7: problem is when you have guys in their thirties and

1223
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 7: you've made it clear that you don't want them and

1224
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 7: they don't want to be there a you lose leverage

1225
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: and then you have to figure out, well, okay, well,

1226
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 7: if we're going to trade for this player. No, he's

1227
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 7: in his thirties and he maybe only have two years left.

1228
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 7: We're not going to type a lot of cash with

1229
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 7: his player. And it's it's not easy. This isn't baseball, folks,

1230
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 7: When pitchers could pitch into the mid to late thirties,

1231
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 7: it's hard.

1232
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 5: Man. Once you get in the early thirties, they're pretty

1233
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: much done.

1234
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: Uh that's true for I think for a lot of

1235
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 4: skilled position guys. But Joe Flacco at forty years old,

1236
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 4: is not driving a carpool anymore. We're still out there

1237
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, right. But Yeah, he had an interesting quote.

1238
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: He said it a few different times as he's kind

1239
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: of been in this older vet in the locker room

1240
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: position about do you want to be a mentor? He

1241
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 4: says being a mentor is not my main focus. I

1242
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: want to play football, which that is his job. Hard

1243
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: to knock him forward, but it seems to me that

1244
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: there's stories and reports and everything coming out of Cleveland

1245
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: have been since the draft, like since the week after

1246
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 4: the draft at least been very very pro shador. What's

1247
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: your take on that or just how your opinion on it?

1248
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: How that?

1249
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, just listen, just you know covering these OTAs and

1250
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 7: for twenty seven years, I mean, really nothing in the

1251
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 7: off season.

1252
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 5: It's it's nice of it.

1253
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 7: As I'm told privately that Shadora has done everything they've

1254
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 7: asked them to do, which is a great thing. That's

1255
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 7: the stuff that matters. I could care less how it

1256
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 7: looks on the field. It doesn't matter to me. It

1257
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: only matters to me in training camp. I've learned my

1258
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 7: lesson of making a big deal of off season practices

1259
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 7: and T shirts and shorts. There's no physicality. You can't

1260
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 7: bump a corner. Corner can't bump a receiver. Running Backs

1261
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 7: are not touched. And by the way, OTAs are passengers.

1262
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 7: It's pretty much flag football. There's no passionsh It's all

1263
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 7: about where they at from a metal standpoint, how they

1264
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 7: learning and everything I'm told it's good. I've known Joe,

1265
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 7: by the way, since I'm going to say, oh seven

1266
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 7: or eight. This is the way that Joe is. He's

1267
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 7: never going to give up that he can't start. He's

1268
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 7: been disrespected over his career, sometimes warned, sometimes not, and

1269
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 7: he obviously had one of the best all time runs

1270
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,479
Speaker 7: in NFL history for the playoffs. A twenty twelve. Joe

1271
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 7: is just look, Brett farre said it with Rogers ironically.

1272
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 7: This just kind of funny how that works out. He's

1273
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 7: a competitor. Now, it doesn't mean he's not going to

1274
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 7: help the player, but I know what he meant. This

1275
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 7: is not the first time he said that. By the way,

1276
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 7: with Lamar Jackson, he wasn't going to do it, and

1277
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 7: that was different. He knew Lamar was drafted to take

1278
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 7: his job. He knew that was going to happen. You know, Look,

1279
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 7: it's it's no different when Kurt Warner knew when the

1280
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 7: Cardinals drafted Matt Liinert and then how did that work

1281
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 7: out for the Cardinals. Kurt Warner took his job at

1282
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 7: Kurt Worker kept the job. So you just never know

1283
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 7: how it's going to work out.

1284
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to give you a date. It

1285
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: was August eighteenth. Hey, that's the date. I give you

1286
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: the year, but it's a giveaway.

1287
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: But August eighteenth was the date that Brett Farv signed

1288
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: with the Minnesota Vikings back in two thousand and nine. Remember,

1289
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 2: after his one year with the Jets, he waited till

1290
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: August eighteenth, and then proceeded to have one of the

1291
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: best years of his entire Hall of Fame NFL career.

1292
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 5: How old was he, by the way, do you know.

1293
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: Let's see in August eighteen, two thousand and nine, he

1294
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: at that point it was almost forty.

1295
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: He was going to turn forty in two months, all.

1296
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: Right, So he waited till August August to sign that

1297
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: deal with the Vikings and then had a phenomenal year

1298
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Speaker 2: that year with the Vikings coming up a game.

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Speaker 3: Short and going to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Eighteez?

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Speaker 3: Can you believe it? And that's that's why I kept believe.

1302
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: I keep going back to the Aaron Rodgers situation, like,

1303
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's well aware of Brett Farv's you know, career.

1304
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: Do you think he's like, if Brett Farvkin waited out

1305
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,959
Speaker 2: that long, I can do the same.

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Speaker 7: Well, the Steelers are not, I'm told. I'm telling you

1307
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 7: because they told me. They're not under that impression he's

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 7: waiting till August. They they don't have an exact time

1309
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 7: frame when he's going to tell them whether he's playing

1310
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Speaker 7: or not.

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Speaker 5: They still think he is. He's not giving an indicationion

1312
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 5: that he's not.

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Speaker 7: Now I don't again, as I've told you throughout the

1314
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 7: last two months said it's not out there. I don't

1315
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 7: know what the personal issue that he's dealing with with someone.

1316
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 5: Who's inner circle. I don't know. It's just it's kind

1317
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 5: of weird.

1318
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 7: Coaches will tell you it's always good when you have

1319
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 7: your starting quarterback in trying to get the timing down.

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 5: Now.

1321
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: I know he did work out with George Pickens excuse me,

1322
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 7: DK Metcalf in the off season.

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Speaker 5: That's great, but you really want him there with the Steelers. Yeah.

1324
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 7: The far thing is, Look, that's so rare though, Steve,

1325
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up. That look we have

1326
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 7: that happened, but it's hard. And by the way, we

1327
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 7: have no idea what he's really doing physically right now.

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01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 7: And by the way, again, as I told you, he

1329
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 7: had two pretty bad injuries.

1330
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Speaker 5: I know he played through them.

1331
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 7: Rogers last season with the Jets, but I know from

1332
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: talking to the Jets they knew he was he was

1333
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 7: doing the best he could to play through it and

1334
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 7: it just didn't work out well. So the fact that

1335
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 7: to finish this, the fact that the Sears thickies their

1336
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 7: savior is kind of scary to be honest with you.

1337
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I tell you what, It's going to

1338
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: be an interesting run as we continue on. We got

1339
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: OTA's going on and he camps, all the other stuff

1340
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: going on around the NFL, and the Man's going to

1341
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: keep us updated on all of that. The great Adam Kaplan, Adam,

1342
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: we always appreciate your time, love every second of it.

1343
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: We'll talk again next week. That is Adam Kaplan, our

1344
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: NFL insiders. So yeah, that is remarkable, though. I had

1345
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: to look it up because in my head, I was like,

1346
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: didn't far like sign late with the Vikings in two

1347
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: thousand and nine August mid August and then had a

1348
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl season.

1349
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Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

1350
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Speaker 2: The man wears a multitude of hats here in these

1351
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios.

1352
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: Is the one, the only, mister Martin Weiss.

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01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: We got the Dodgers and the Yankees World Series rematch

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: right now. Bottom of the first inning this game on Fox.

1355
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 4: The Dodger with the two to nothing lead over the Yankees.

1356
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: First inning, Aaron Judge grounded into a double play, Max

1357
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: Munsey knocked in sho Hey Otani and Max Munsey and

1358
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: Will Smith both at RBIs with Monsey knocked at Otani

1359
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 4: for the Dodgers to have a two to nothing lead

1360
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 4: here in Minnesota and Seattle scoreless in the second inning,

1361
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 4: bottom of the first for that, Yankees and Dodgers.

1362
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: Still we have two games left on.

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01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: The slate, the Pirates and the Padres and the Nationals

1364
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 4: and the Diamondbacks National Diamondbacks.

1365
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Speaker 3: On FS one.

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Speaker 4: Earlier today we saw the Cubs beat the Reds to nothing,

1367
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: Blue Jays eight to seven over the A's, Orioles four

1368
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: to two over the White Socks with the Jackson Holiday

1369
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: home run. Brewers poured it on the Philly seventeen to seven,

1370
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: two to nothing to score the Rangers beat I'm sorry,

1371
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 4: the Cardinals beat the Rangers. Guardians come from behind, beat

1372
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 4: the Angels seven to five, Braves five nothing over the

1373
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 4: red Socks. The Mets beat the Rockies eight to two,

1374
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 4: Marlins one nothing over the Giants. Same store for the

1375
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: Royals over the Tigers. Then he passed Guentino where they

1376
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 4: go ahead RBI single. That was the difference between Kansas

1377
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 4: City and Detroit. Today, the Rays beat the eight Astros

1378
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: sixteen to three. Speaking of the Astros, yard on Alvarez,

1379
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 4: they found a small fracture in his right hand that

1380
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 4: is currently sixty percent healed. He's missed the last twenty

1381
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: five games due to a muscle strain in that same

1382
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 4: right hand. Astros GM Danna Brown says that the imaging

1383
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: says he should return into the near future. Dodgers Mookie

1384
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 4: Bets going to be out for at least this weekend series,

1385
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: hopsed to be back in the next few days. Fractured

1386
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: the tip of his second left toe at home on

1387
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 4: Wednesday night walking to the bathroom in the dark, which

1388
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: Steve begs the question, when's the worst time you stubbed

1389
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 4: your toe? And why do you remember exactly where you

1390
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: were and what had happened? Because that pain is unimaginable,

1391
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 4: all right.

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01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 3: So it wasn't that. I will tell you this. I

1393
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: was in my mid thirties.

1394
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: I was down in San Diego and I was doing

1395
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: the morning show in those days with the late Greade

1396
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: Chet forty and we were on from five hour morning show,

1397
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: how about that six to eleven before there was in

1398
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: the internet way back in the day.

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Speaker 3: So it was huh, that's pretty much all we had.

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01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: We had the ap wire, right, So what I would

1401
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: do is I'd take a little nap after I was done,

1402
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, with my show, and I got up from

1403
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: my nap and I put my foot on the ground.

1404
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: I was on a couch and I had this incredible

1405
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: pain in the joint of my right big toe.

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: I literally thought, did I break my toe? I didn't

1407
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: know what. It was so painful.

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: I could not walk on that foot, and so I

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: went down to the doctor immediately because I thought I'd

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: fractured my toe. I was, you know, going through my

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: head like where did I did I he and he's

1412
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: he's doing these blood tests and everything. He goes, dude,

1413
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: you have gout, yo, And I'm like what, he goes.

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't a big meat eater.

1415
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't a big you know, drinker, And he goes,

1416
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: You're just retaining uric acid.

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Speaker 3: The pain I couldnot describe to you.

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Speaker 2: So and if you have fractured anything involving toes, toy

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Speaker 2: is incredible.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I was introduced to alapurinol, which I've been taking for

1422
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: thirty years, so I don't get any gout anymore. But

1423
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: I can only imagine that I had what I thought

1424
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: was about that for a while.

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Speaker 4: It ended up being plantar fascy itis mixed with a

1426
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: little bit of it all. But to your point, the

1427
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: first few steps in the morning, it was like walking

1428
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 4: on nails that were lit on fire. It is the

1429
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 4: most painful thing you will like. It hurts, by the way,

1430
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: so bad.

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01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: I was introduced to There was one time. What happened

1432
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 2: was when I first started getting Albert. You know, I'd

1433
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: take it, it would go away, and I'm like, why, I

1434
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: don't want to take a pill. I not any any pain, right,

1435
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: But every once in a while I get a flare

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: up again. One time I had a flare up so

1437
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: bad that my wife rushed me to the emergency room

1438
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: and you know what they did.

1439
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,480
Speaker 3: They shot me up with demerol.

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: I remember I was laying down and the pain in

1441
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: my foot it was so bad I could barely and

1442
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: I just felt like this wave literally going through my

1443
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: body of just numbness and like I was floating on

1444
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean.

1445
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 3: It was like I was literally like floating.

1446
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: I didn't feel any pain. I'll never forget that anyway.

1447
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: So we'll see about Mookie. Let me let me ask

1448
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: you this. I was asked by radio show that I

1449
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: appeared on. The host had asked me right out, it's Steve,

1450
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: Is it too early to say that show Hey, O

1451
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: Tony is the greatest baseball player of all time? And

1452
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: I said, well, here's what I will say. He is

1453
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 2: in many ways the most unique baseball player of all

1454
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: time because he's done things that have never been done before.

1455
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: He is certainly the greatest hitting pitcher of all time.

1456
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about that. But it's

1457
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: hard for me to tag him as the greatest baseball

1458
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: player of.

1459
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: All time when he doesn't play in the field.

1460
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Willie Mays was a five tool player who

1461
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: played at the highest level in every aspect of the game,

1462
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,959
Speaker 2: whether it was hitting for average, hitting for power, stealing bases.

1463
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: This is the guy that led the Nation League and

1464
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: stole basis four times and at home runs four times.

1465
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: And oh that's right.

1466
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: He was the greatest defensive center fielder in the history

1467
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: of the game, not only catching the ball but throwing

1468
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: the ball.

1469
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: And so it's.

1470
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: Hard for me to put Showhey in that category because.

1471
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: He's a DH and he's a starting pitcher.

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: Well, I think my thing is this, he was on

1473
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 4: track if you because I agree with you in that

1474
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: when you look at just the honestly, just the uh.

1475
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 4: It's kind of like why you see very rarely pitchers

1476
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: winning MVP awards because they only play once every five days. However,

1477
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 4: when you're like Cy Young level, all right, the argument

1478
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: to me is falling off there, you know what I mean, Like,

1479
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: you're the best of the best at that spot. We're

1480
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 4: gonna have to knock you. I'm not knocking you because

1481
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: you only pitch for so often. But here's the thing.

1482
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 4: He ain't pitched in it quite some time. And I

1483
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 4: get the recovery and all that, but if he's not

1484
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: pitching at the level that he was when he was

1485
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 4: an Anaheim Angel, then I think the idea of show

1486
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 4: hey potentially being the like the the best is gonna

1487
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: be rough now, most entertaining, most all Like we could do.

1488
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: A whole lot of other platitudes that still qualified.

1489
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: Because I am watching the Dodgers to watch Joeo Tani

1490
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 4: go up there in bat and then when he gives

1491
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 4: a second base do that little thing they do with

1492
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: the hips and the elbows and all of that.

1493
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm locked in.

1494
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, last night was insane. So Aaron Judges betting second.

1495
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: By the way, I love the fact that they were

1496
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: allowing their big hitters to hit higher in the lineup

1497
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: because you know, here's the thing they were talking about

1498
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: this in the game, you know, you settle in your seats,

1499
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: you're ready to go, and the best hitter is not

1500
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: hitting till the second inning, right because they might be

1501
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: batting fourth or whatever. And so you had Aaron Judge

1502
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,440
Speaker 2: hit an absolute bomb like four fifty dead center, just ridiculous,

1503
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: and bottom of the first, leading off Otani first pitch

1504
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: boom home run left center. I mean, it's unbelievable watching show.

1505
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: Heyotani play, But again, can I say he's a better

1506
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: all time baseball player then Willie mays, No, Yeah, he

1507
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: doesn't play the field. He's a DH and he's the

1508
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: starting pitcher part time.

1509
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with you.

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01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: Though, if he comes back and dominates as the starting pitcher,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, he's on track to return sometime

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Speaker 2: after the All Star break on the mound, But if

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Speaker 2: he returns to that kind of dominance on the mound,

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Speaker 2: then we can renew this conversation.

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Speaker 3: By the way, don't forget after the show.

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Speaker 2: Podcast is going up, So if you miss any of

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Speaker 2: today's show, check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you gets your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: You'll see today's show. Post it right after we get

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Speaker 2: off the air. All right, we're in the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Get a little preview of tonight's Game six

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals Knicks Pacers?

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Speaker 3: Who will win? Will we move on to the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 3: Are we going Game seven? At the Guard? And we'll

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Speaker 3: break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Martin Wise, here Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Well, thank our

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: crew today, starting with Martin Weiss. Double thanks. Is always

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: the man City in two seats every Saturday here in

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: the show, as always, that's the way it should be,

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 2: you bet Mary Mack. The diversity in musical selections today

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: phenomenal as always. And then there's a Yes, the rising

1536
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: star here at Fox Sports Radio, who try to throw

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: at me just because he's an sc guy, Okay, and

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01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm a UCLA guy and he's trying to throw at

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01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: me just how much better USC football is than us?

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Speaker 3: And we're not at well it wasn't out of the

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: blues because you were talking smack about baseball.

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we got usc usc under Rod Dato

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01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: was the most dominant baseball program and then nation for years.

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01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: I got to meet Rod Data on several occasions. He

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01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: was a very dear friend of Tommy. Was sworded back

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: in the day. But we'll see about your football dominance.

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: All I hear is us trying to eliminate Notre Dame

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: from their schedule because their schedule's too tough playing in

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: the Big Ten much. Oh, by the way, you see

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: that plays the same.

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: Big Ten schedule, So to see how that plays on.

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01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: By the way, show hey Otani. We're one inning in

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. He's one for two hitting. Dodgers scored

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 2: four runs in the first inning against the Yankees. They

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: are like owning the Yankees right now, show hey, let

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01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: off with a single. By the way, the one record

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01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: he could set this year Martin is run scored. The

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Speaker 2: record was set by Babe Ruth in nineteen twenty one

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy seven runs. Right now, Otani's on

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: pace for one hundred and seventy five runs scored this year.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good. I mean, he's on pace for like

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01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: sixty home runs as.

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Speaker 2: Well, but he could set a major league record that

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: has been on the books for overall hundred years for

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: most runs scored in a season.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 4: This is part of the kind of the reason why

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 4: it's like, if he's just a serviceable pitcher, I'm here

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 4: for the greatest of all time conversations.

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Speaker 3: He's knocking the hell out the ball. It's unbelievable what

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 3: this guy does, Absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get deep into the game coming up

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Speaker 2: here in about ten minutes, tip off Game six Eastern

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, Pacers trying to eliminate the Knicks, Nicks trying

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: to stay alive. Send it back to the garden. As

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: we met to with Mark Mendin, I see two possible scenarios,

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: and you could say, yes, won the Knicks win, and

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01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: when the Pacers win, not quite that way. If the

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01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: Knicks win, it's going to be one of those late

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: game heroics Brunson hits a three. Something miraculous happens at

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: the end of the game where the Knicks pull it out.

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Speaker 3: If the Pacers win this game, in my book, it's

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: going to be a blowout.

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: And when I say blowed fifteen plus an easy win

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: for the Pacers on their home Let me ask.

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Speaker 4: You a thirty point game that gets cut to fifteen

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Speaker 4: or a seven to ten point game, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say, I would say it would be like twelve

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: to fifteen point lead at the half and the Knicks

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: really make no debt in it, and then the Pacers

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01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: it's garbage time at the end. That could go either way,

1592
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: but it's never in doubt. Let's put it this way.

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 2: Second half would never be in doubt. That's the other Sonario.

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: But if it's if it's a close game, if this

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01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 2: literally comes down to the last minute of the game,

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: I will tell you right now, the Knicks win this game.

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Speaker 4: Just is it just the the clutch nature of Jalen Brunson, Well,

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01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 4: he was.

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Speaker 3: Voted the clutch Player of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I mean think about think about Jalen Brunson's

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: star power. Already, right you're playing for the Knicks, which

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: gives you a leg up on other players playing in

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01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 2: smaller markets. But if he were to pull out a

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01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: game like tonight, you know, season on the line, and

1605
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: you know hits a three point shot late to win

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01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: the game, and then goes back to the Garden and

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: has like a thirty five point game in the Knicks,

1608
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, win that game to head to the NBA five.

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the momentum for the NBA would be huge,

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: even though on paper it would still be a mismatch

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: between the Knicks and Okac. So I always look at

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: what is the best possible scenario for the league? Yeah,

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: we know, and I just laid it out for you.

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Speaker 3: We know.

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,520
Speaker 4: But I also think, honestly, I think you're undercutting Tyrese

1616
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 4: Halliverton's potential to be a lightning rod type of player.

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 4: I think that when we talk about these faces of

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01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 4: the league type personalities, one of the things that's understated

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 4: is you have to make me feel some type of

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: way when I watch you play, right, And I think

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 4: shake gil z Answer does fall in that because he

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 4: makes a lot of people upset when he watched the play.

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01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 4: But people either want to see Tyre's haliburtons succeed or

1624
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 4: they want to see him fail because of all the

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 4: dancing around the and the big ball celebration and the

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 4: choke and everything. Like, He's got a lot of personality there,

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 4: and I think it, you know, it's silly me. He

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Speaker 4: does play for Indiana, though, so what can you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're looking for a storyline about Indiana,

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01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: you know, like if you're still trying to you know.

1631
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: And again, this is a team that was in the

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals a year ago, so it's not like

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: the Pacers came out of nowhere this year. But what's

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Speaker 2: interesting about this team is, when you think about it,

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 2: their roster is basically a collection of rejects. These are

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that were rejected or traded away

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: by other teams and.

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01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: They end up in Indiana.

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01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: You know, well exactly so you Halliburton, Siakam turn I mean,

1640
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: go down the list.

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01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 3: Turner's actually been there the longest.

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Speaker 2: And but they have a lot of guys on this

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01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: roster that were deemed expendable by other franchises. And let's

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01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: and let's let's let's let's mention they have a pretty

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: good coach as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's another thing.

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 4: I think that we have kind of over underrated the

1648
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: coaching mismatch here to look at the way the challenges

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 4: have gone, especially in the early games in this series,

1650
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 4: that I think that the tyres Haliburton the Tyres Haliburton

1651
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 4: game with a head off the back room went way

1652
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 4: up in the air. Carlisle won two challenges late in

1653
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 4: that fourth quarter. Otherwise he wouldn't have had enough possessions

1654
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 4: for that shot to even happen. Right, you see that,

1655
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 4: You see Tibbs and now he's got people are clapping

1656
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 4: for him. If he's playing a deeper bench, that's because

1657
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson at four fouls in the second quarter, he

1658
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: had to play a deeper bench. Right he stumbled across something.

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 4: Carlisle to me seems like he's pulling the levers a

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 4: lot better.

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01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Rick Carlisle, if you think about it, obviously

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 2: he won a championship with Dallas.

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, is this a Hall of Fame coaching career?

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01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: Would you say?

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 4: I think if he gets if he gets another championship,

1666
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 4: this will be many couple conference finals.

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01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 2: He had back to back fifty win seasons his first

1668
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: coaching job in Detroit. Then he had the first run

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 2: with Indiana, had a sixty one win season all those

1670
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: years in Dallas. Uh and now returns to Indiana get

1671
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: the team a little bit better every year. I'd say

1672
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 2: he's hall of Fame to be honest with.

1673
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: You, knocking on the door.

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: Look for at Knicks victory tonight. My final prediction, keep

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Speaker 2: it there. This is Fox Sports Radio.