00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: To surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're in the backyard. It's recently rained, so you know, things are I mean, if what this is this the podcast where we just talk about the conditions of my backyard all the time. I don't know, but it does feel like the earth is new. The only thing that's happened to me this morning is I discovered a hornet in my home. So I'm still writing that adrenaline rush. It was on its last legs, didn't stand much of a chance against the mop And I'm in layers for the first time on this podcast in years. The weather's perfect, and we're so excited about our guest. It's Matt Rogers. 00:01:29 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm really excited to be in layers too. In fact, like it was a three different jacket before I got here. 00:01:36 Speaker 2: You were testing different jackets. 00:01:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had sort of a corduroy moment, okay, okay, and then I what happened? Was you ever put on a jacket and you haven't put it on in a long time, and like something in the shoulders isn't right. You know when they say something in the milk isn't clean, I I don't know that, and I don't know you don't know something in the milk isn't clean? 00:01:55 Speaker 2: What is that? 00:01:56 Speaker 4: Okay? 00:01:56 Speaker 3: So when something in the milk isn't clean, I mean something about the situation is not right. 00:02:00 Speaker 4: There's like something afoot interesting. 00:02:02 Speaker 2: And where where did this phrase even come from? It's discussed. 00:02:05 Speaker 4: I don't know what you want to know where I learned it from. 00:02:08 Speaker 3: I was watching a Real Housewives YouTube blogger and she said, and I thought, something in the milk isn't clean. And then I think she's used it enough where I actually think it's a real thing. 00:02:22 Speaker 4: Something in the milk isn't clean well, which sounds like not milk you want to drink, right, of course, sounds awful. 00:02:28 Speaker 3: But anyway, to return to the jacket of it all, something in the milk wasn't clean. 00:02:33 Speaker 4: Something and the shoulders wasn't right with my corduroy jacket. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: I went with this Swede moment, which unfortunately got rained on last night, and they say, what happens with swaye when it gets rained on? 00:02:42 Speaker 4: Is it's ruined? Does it smell you tell me smell my swede? 00:02:47 Speaker 2: It just smells like it smells like a cowboy. 00:02:49 Speaker 4: So far, so good. 00:02:52 Speaker 3: It like a cowboy would be title of app if I had my druthers. But you know it's good. I mean, I don't think it's ruined. I think there's definitely something in the milk isn't exactly clean, with the way it looks like it looks like it got a little bit like wet and therefore might be damaged. 00:03:07 Speaker 2: But no, unless you point that out to somebody, no one is ever going to know that this has been I mean, it is crazy. You wore in the rain. 00:03:14 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, very much Los Angeles vibes, is it's never gonna rain. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: And I thought, even right, well, come. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: On yesterday from six am it was going to rain all day. 00:03:26 Speaker 3: I don't know what You're right, okay, So maybe, and you know what, maybe it was maybe I should have tried on more jackets yesterday and save myself the grief of today, because then I could have put on the corduroy jacket, ill fitting and all milk wrong and all, and I could have worn that to dear friend Megan Stalter's show at the Largo. 00:03:43 Speaker 2: But you had to wear swede in the rain. 00:03:45 Speaker 4: Maybe I wanted to impress someone. 00:03:47 Speaker 2: I'm sure you did a little bit. I hope somebody was impressed. 00:03:50 Speaker 4: I went with a guy I used to date. 00:03:51 Speaker 2: Okay, you wanted to impress him, And. 00:03:53 Speaker 3: I think, well, this is something I think. It's like when you're dealing with someone that you used to have a date, doing suituation or some sort of you know, whatever's with you. 00:04:04 Speaker 4: Never stop sort of performing. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: You have to always be at the top of the mountain when you when they see. 00:04:11 Speaker 4: You, Yes, exactly to let them know that they made a big mistake. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: They made a huge mistake. 00:04:16 Speaker 4: They're the one that ended it. And he was. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: But uh, probably last night he was thinking, Matt's in a bad place. He's wearing swede in the rain, making bad clothing choices. 00:04:26 Speaker 4: Well, I got there and it wasn't raining. 00:04:29 Speaker 2: Matt again. Yesterday it was almost drizzling almost all day. I thought it was over Hurricane level. 00:04:38 Speaker 4: I thought it was over. 00:04:39 Speaker 2: It was never over. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, so you've were you tried two jackets this morning? Was there a third? 00:04:47 Speaker 3: There was a third? Okay, so there was a third, which was a denim jacket. But you're gonna you're gonna if you just glance dinner, you're gonna see I've got denner and and I'm not against the denim on. 00:04:57 Speaker 2: Denim Canadian TUXI Canadian tuxedo. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: But the thing about being in a Canadian tuxedo is ever someone will always. 00:05:03 Speaker 4: Say, ooh, Canadian tucks. 00:05:05 Speaker 3: That's a lot of Deni'm like, it always becomes a topic of conversation. 00:05:08 Speaker 2: It's a good look, really good look. 00:05:12 Speaker 4: And it's also back. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: It's complete. It's been back probably I would say since late twenty nineteen. 00:05:17 Speaker 3: I have something to and I can't stop thinking about this, so I'm just gonna throw it out there. 00:05:24 Speaker 4: You have a denim jacket. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: I'm currently wearing a denim jacket inherited from my mom real believe it or not. 00:05:29 Speaker 4: Oh, I love a mom and a denim jacket. 00:05:31 Speaker 2: Oh my mom has been wearing denim jacket since nineteen eighty eight. Here he never stopped. 00:05:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, wait, this is taking me back when I was a child. When I was a kid, my mother got into a tiny fender bender and she gets out of the car. 00:05:45 Speaker 4: And we were driving a Bonneville. 00:05:47 Speaker 3: And the other car we got into an accident with was also a Bonneville, and the woman got out same age as heard. 00:05:52 Speaker 4: They were both in denhim on Dunham. 00:05:53 Speaker 3: They were both and I remember with my sister being in the back of the car like watching them like step to the side and like talk about like, oh no, it was an accident, so don't worry about, you know, And they were both in full denim. And I wish that we had, like I wish I could go back with my eyes now and be like, yo, look at these two bitches. 00:06:11 Speaker 4: And it was amazing. And the way they dealt with it too, was so beautiful. 00:06:16 Speaker 2: What is the Bonovilla Buick Buick Bonaville old Smobile. 00:06:21 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I don't know, but they don't make it anymore. Cares. 00:06:25 Speaker 3: It was a gorgeous car. It was a family car. It was, you know, very much a war eater. And I used to think, because you know, when you're little and like the stuff that's yours or the stuff that's your parents like. 00:06:36 Speaker 4: For a certain period of time, that's the coolest. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: Course, Niceville was the coolest car on the road. Now I know it's like, who cares. 00:06:44 Speaker 2: Bonoville sounds like a classic car to me, sounds like a sedan that's got like trimmings. 00:06:49 Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I felt proud and stylish riding in the back of it, even fender bender and all, even with a mom in denhim on denna. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: But what I was going to say back to whatever you were going. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: To say I was gonna say to you, was you like my swede jacket. You said it smells like a cowboy, And here I was thinking I was going to go for a denim one den the moment, if at any point you want to switch weekend. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: Sweat, you're making the offer for me to wear the Swede and you're in the denim. 00:07:15 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 00:07:15 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you seem to really respond to the smell and texture of the jacket, and I'm looking at the jacket and what I love about it is it's a light wash down. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: I love a lightwashing and I have a dark washed denim jacket as well. Of course, you need options you need both. That one was inherited from my dad. Actually, and we should say my parents are alive. They didn't both die, and all they left me was denim jacket. 00:07:36 Speaker 4: No, we're just saying your mom is more of a light wash and your dad's more of a dark one. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have both of those sides to my personality. I have all of their faults, the shades. I've got shades of the. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Shades of denim. So does this mean you're feeling more like your mom right now? 00:07:50 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely I'm channeling Debbie energy. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: Channeling debris energy. What does that mean? Light mother? 00:07:55 Speaker 2: I mean, actually do have a mother. I actually am not channeling denim energy. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: And that's because I mean Denny Debbie Honeybie Denim. I love that character. Maybe a drag name. She probably would be boxed into an aesthetic. Oh absolutely be Really her narrative on drag Grace would be like, you need to stop relying on denim. She'd be like, but I can't, and they stop talking like that's like, Okay. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: At some point in this podcast, I'm gonna surprise you. There will be a signal we will switch jackets. But I don't want to do it, Yet I wanted to come at another time when, no, when the listener doesn't expect it, when everyone has forgotten about denim. 00:08:34 Speaker 4: Yes, way, And I'm really thinking. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: To this color because what would you call? First of all, can I just reveal something? I'm color blind? 00:08:40 Speaker 2: You're color blind? 00:08:42 Speaker 3: It's it's something I live with every single day. 00:08:47 Speaker 2: And how does is that with color blind? You can't see red or green? Is that right? 00:08:51 Speaker 3: So there's red green color blind, which is which is my affliction. I found out in third grade. What they do is and then everyone listening has been through this that they put like a little it's sort of like a little ink blot situation, okay, where basically it's a bunch of colors all mixed together and you're supposed to be able to make out a number. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: Oh, I've done this at the optometrists before. 00:09:11 Speaker 4: Yes, of course beautiful. 00:09:13 Speaker 2: It's always a beautiful number in the spot. 00:09:15 Speaker 4: It's so stunning. 00:09:15 Speaker 3: And so I was proud to say that what I saw in this, you know, the red green section that was going to define if I was red green color. But I was like, it's a gorgeous seventy one, and they're like, it's a four, and so basically that meant that I do not see what you see. 00:09:32 Speaker 4: But isn't that Isn't that beautiful? 00:09:34 Speaker 2: Really? I mean, it's such a hard thing for me to even I can't. I'll never be able to be in your shoes. 00:09:39 Speaker 4: You literally will be. 00:09:42 Speaker 2: In my jacket. We will be in each other jackets. 00:09:45 Speaker 4: But you'll never be in my shoes. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: Actually, my friend Chris, a couple of years ago, for like like Secrets Sannah, he had me for Secret Sannah, and he got me a pair of those glasses that you're supposed to be able to put on and like they're for color blind people like you the world as everyone else sees it, And I swear to God, I thought I was going to have that like woman puts in a cochlear ear and planets follow it and my cry. I thought it was gonna be like a dog coming home from war or whatever the fuck happens, like when no, that's not the. 00:10:11 Speaker 4: Dog comes from from from a soldier comes home from war and the dog reacts crazy, right, Anyway, I thought I was gonna have a big emotional reaction. 00:10:18 Speaker 3: I put them on, and I hope this isn't what you see? It was just like a red hellish blob. I think they may have been bad glasses unless what y'all see is. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: Just like a mist of red at all times. 00:10:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:10:31 Speaker 3: Hell, I was just like, this cannot be it, because if this is it, I feel so bad for humanity. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: And I honestly now I get it. 00:10:39 Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's a weird thing because you can't demonstrate to anybody how what you see. 00:10:44 Speaker 3: You will listen to me right now. You will never see through my eyes. You will never understand me. Ever, it will never happen. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: I mean, this is an interesting thing for you to reveal because you did. I mean, well, we can get into Christmas at some point. How is this the holiday season effective? 00:11:01 Speaker 4: Well? I really had to take it back. I really had to take it back for me. Now, you know what. Here's the thing. So I have in my head what green is to me, and I have in my head what red is to me. It's just different from what you see. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: So I've lived my entire life knowing what I think green is and what I think red is. Come to find out, when you blend the two, they sort of blend together in different shades of colors. It ends in a whole different situation for me. 00:11:28 Speaker 2: So if you were to sit down draw a picture of a forest and you didn't have the crayons weren't labeled, which crayon are you reaching for to color the trees? 00:11:40 Speaker 3: So get this. The other day I was at Converse and I wanted to buy this. I thought this would be cute. Okay, I wanted to buy one red Converse and one green Converse. I was gonna buy, of course, both pairs of shoes, but then the bit would be, I wear one with green. I may be performing on stage points and says, what a cute idea, et cetera. I said, okay, can you go over there to my friend Jared and I said, can you get that green shoe? 00:12:07 Speaker 4: He said, that's a navy blue shoe. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: WHOA. 00:12:10 Speaker 3: So that just goes to show where I'm at. So for me, it's like orange is green. Sometimes red is like certain, like when when red goes into its variance, like your maroons, Purple to me is. 00:12:25 Speaker 2: Hell, Oh interesting, purpurple and blue as hell. 00:12:28 Speaker 3: Actually, because when you're red green color blend, it sort of knocks everything off its axis. 00:12:34 Speaker 4: So green and orange to me are tough. 00:12:36 Speaker 2: Which color works for you blue, just blue, but even sometimes with blue, it thinks something could be. 00:12:42 Speaker 4: Purple, right, and it could sneak in there. And that is really rule the day so fascinating. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: You know, I wish I could share with the world what it is I experienced. I never will be able to, but you know, science is so amazing, and maybe they'll be glasses that can show you what I see. I will tell you right now what I think the world is is so beautiful. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: Well that's good. You've learned to appreciate your own little corner. That's all I've ever known. 00:13:07 Speaker 3: And so I was driving here today and I said to you when I came in, I said these words. I so enjoyed my drive here because I really did. I mean not to speak on the weather conditions, but because I because I know that's you know up top, you said, I can't believe we're doing this. But the city is alive, It's vibrant, The sky is a gorgeous blue. You can see the mountains crystal, all the colors. I think that you created for yourself. And you're a little stunning. 00:13:36 Speaker 4: Tonight. 00:13:37 Speaker 2: Good today, oh interesting, today, it looks so beautiful. 00:13:40 Speaker 3: I just like to talk about everything is if it's tonight, Bridger, The thing about podcast is you never know when someone's listening. 00:13:46 Speaker 2: People need to know this was recorded at eleven am. That really sets the mood. We should have said that up top. 00:13:52 Speaker 4: A gorgeous time to start. 00:13:54 Speaker 2: I really like an eleven am. Yeah, I'm in between breakfast and lunch, so my blood sugar is at an okay level. A tough time for me is like three pm. 00:14:01 Speaker 4: That's hard. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: It's too far from lunch, way too early for dinner. Yeah, I don't know where I am. Mentally, it's too much. 00:14:08 Speaker 3: Name coffee number one, This is coffee number two, number two, this is what about this one? 00:14:14 Speaker 2: And now this is from Kettle Glaze. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: This place I only just discovered it. Also, I want to say something. I don't normally drink hot coffee. 00:14:21 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's a that's a very rare thing for me. I have to be freezing cold, absolutely at my least comfortable. 00:14:27 Speaker 3: But I thought as I was trying on all the jackets, and I thought it was going to be sort of a brisk morning, and I knew and I was very excited about recording this outside. 00:14:36 Speaker 4: I have to tell you. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: I love to record outside. 00:14:38 Speaker 4: It's a whole different energy. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: It feels so nice. 00:14:41 Speaker 4: It's feels so nice. 00:14:42 Speaker 3: The other night, I took a walk outside. Unbelievable. Highly recommend. The walk was in Palm Springs. 00:14:48 Speaker 2: That oh, a perfect place to go in a nice, little quiet walk. 00:14:53 Speaker 4: You could see the moon big and proud. 00:14:57 Speaker 2: So wait, did you this is your second coffee? 00:14:59 Speaker 4: No, this is my first? I woke up. Okay, So this is where I reveal I'm. 00:15:04 Speaker 3: A sort of that person that like really has a hard time getting to bed at night, right because. 00:15:08 Speaker 4: I just don't want to, you know what I mean. I'm like, there's I just want to watch TV. And then like I wake up. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: In the morning and I'm like fucking miserable that I have to get up out of bed. It's like I couldn't be less interested at night, and then in the morning I'm like, oh, don't leave me, you know what I mean, Which is saying maybe more than it needs to say. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: What are you watching at night? Do you have like a selected view? 00:15:31 Speaker 4: Know what I'm watching? 00:15:32 Speaker 2: I mean, you're watching the Housewives? 00:15:33 Speaker 4: I watched the Housewives. 00:15:34 Speaker 3: Well, last night I was watching the get this midterm results. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. 00:15:39 Speaker 4: We didn't get fucking cream. 00:15:41 Speaker 2: No, it seemed I was like in a bad place where it's like I can't watch it. Then it seems fine, but I was like, I'm still not going to get into I can't do this to myself. 00:15:49 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't engaged in any way outside of obviously voting, voter voting, thank you, and then of course posting vote, you know, just posted just like saying the word vote on Instagram to. 00:16:01 Speaker 2: Feel your absolute powerlessness. 00:16:03 Speaker 3: And exactly and giving like a soft take on like Katie Perry voting for Rick CRUs So. I was like, not her, right, And then like I basically uh stayed up all night watching it, and then suddenly was an expert in my group chat. I was like, well, you guys, it looks like it's gonna be a long night. But that and just firing off my takes. And my friend Jared texted me off the thread and was like, I don't understand the thing you're saying, and how do you And I was like, well, I watched MSNBC. Jared, I just no, you don't. He's like, you're literally just like pausing, typing whatever. Steve Cornaki says, He's like, I know, you're I know you're on like a Housewives message board arguing with someone about Robin Dixon. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: Are you on the message board? 00:16:47 Speaker 4: No, I immediately leave, I run away. No, how do. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: You feel about Salt Lake City this season? 00:16:55 Speaker 3: It's interesting you ask, and not to segue into the gift, but do you want to open my gifts? 00:17:01 Speaker 2: I mean, this is an interesting thing for the You may be the first guest to immediately just it's because you want a responsibility for the gift. 00:17:09 Speaker 4: I am a podcast host, right, and so it's hard for me to start to turn off you know what I mean. 00:17:15 Speaker 2: You had your you're directing the action. 00:17:17 Speaker 4: I don't mean to your fat the gift. 00:17:19 Speaker 2: Not yet. 00:17:20 Speaker 4: What did you asking about Salt Lake It has nothing to do with my lift? 00:17:22 Speaker 2: No, I think, I mean this is a good this is a good moment, Matt. Yeah, this podcast is called I said no gifts. Yeah, you obviously have absolutely no guilt whatsoever about bringing a gift now and you want me to open the gift. You're claiming it as a gift. 00:17:37 Speaker 4: Not only did I bring a gift, I brought gifts. 00:17:41 Speaker 2: Well should we get into it here. 00:17:43 Speaker 3: I wanted you to have this. Thank you so much for having me over to your literally beautiful home. And I also said that when I came in. There was two things I said. When I came in, I so enjoyed my drive here, and your home is absolutely beautiful. 00:17:54 Speaker 4: Hello, and gave my hugs. But that was all that was the meat of it. And this is for you, Bridger. 00:18:16 Speaker 2: Well, this isn't a nice little brown bag. Yeah, and let's let's open it up and see what's happening. 00:18:20 Speaker 4: I mean, see what it is. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: It may have something to do with Salt Lake City housewives, it might have something God only knows. Should I take it out all out at once? 00:18:27 Speaker 4: You should take it one at a time, Okay, one at a time. So this is the aper chief. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a bag of Bob Bob's red milk kin waw. 00:18:35 Speaker 3: It's quenlaw that is so healthy for you. And I just want to tell you that it's pre rinsed and ready to cook. It's great and soups and salads and it's a great source of fiber. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: Bridger, why are you bringing me quenlaw? 00:18:46 Speaker 4: Well? I thought, what's healthy? 00:18:49 Speaker 3: Right? 00:18:49 Speaker 4: And what's that's what's something that is in my pantry. I'm not gonna. 00:18:53 Speaker 2: Did you buy this? Like in a panic in March twenty twenty. 00:18:57 Speaker 3: It was literally like you No, it was in March twenty twenty when it was was it was August of twenty twenty, Okay, after I had gained twelve to thirteen pounds. And you think this is just from eating eating eating, No, it's also from inaction. I sat my couch and watched this is true thirty one seasons of Survivor. 00:19:17 Speaker 2: Oh my god, was it that your first time watching Survivor? No. 00:19:21 Speaker 3: I was like an intense little fan when I was younger, and then I stopped around episode no. I slept on season eight All Stars because it just got ugly. It got ugly amongst the all Stars of that time, like they didn't get reality TV yet, they didn't understand how to not take the game personally. 00:19:37 Speaker 4: Sure, so it took. 00:19:38 Speaker 3: A decades long break and returned to Survivor during the pandemic. 00:19:42 Speaker 4: But as a result, I got out of shape. 00:19:45 Speaker 2: Thirty one seasons. 00:19:46 Speaker 4: It was a lot. 00:19:46 Speaker 2: How many hours do you think that is? 00:19:48 Speaker 3: Oh, dear god, I mean, if you're let's let's talk about it. So it's thirty one seasons. 00:19:52 Speaker 2: We can do this math, they're like twenty episodes of season. Is that right? 00:19:56 Speaker 4: I would say that it's more like thirteen fourteen. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: Actually, okay, And then you have to take into account that some episodes are like mysteriously gone from seasons. Have you noticed that, are they? Yeah? I mean from the ones that I watched during the. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: Pend on what You're right a couple of times, which makes me feel like, oh, is there something problematic? 00:20:14 Speaker 2: Either something problematic or someone was singing a copyrighted song just. 00:20:19 Speaker 3: Out like what's a song of the time? I don't know what a Girl Wants? That was amazing when Poverty sang what a Girl Wants for the for the reward. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: Challeng entire song. 00:20:34 Speaker 4: But yes, no, I took a very very very long break and then got back into it to the print tap during the pandemic. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: Loved My Life. But August twenty twenty, I was like not feeling good. So at that point I did go to the Galasons. 00:20:47 Speaker 2: Okay, Gelson's, which I have big feelings on Galson's that I've talked about on this podcast before. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: What are the positive negative feelings you have? It seems negative by the way you're Grimace. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: Gelson's is an absolutely Ralph level grocery store. The prices there are what's the farm farms Mendochino, No, No, that's a sandwich restaurant. What is the farms? 00:21:13 Speaker 3: Farms? 00:21:14 Speaker 4: Crystal Farms, Bristol. 00:21:16 Speaker 2: Bristol Farms, thank you. Bristol Farms is kind of the original expense Farms is incredible. 00:21:23 Speaker 4: Period. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: Gelson's prices are out of control and it's not a nice grocery store. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: Well, you know, listen, I'm in this. I'm in a single person household. I have no one to care about about myself. So I just say I get into that Gelston's and I say, let's throw a carro to the wind. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: They did used to have an olive bar that was the shape of a covered wagon, which was confusing, but I appreciated that an olive bar. 00:21:48 Speaker 4: So can I just ask, is this a It's like a bar for olives. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: It was a variety of olives. I don't know who it was for. I don't know that there's anyone that is that concerned about olives that they're going to Gelson's to the little covered wagon to select different types of olives. 00:22:02 Speaker 4: And yet here I am intrigued. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: I'm assuming they had like those blue cheese stuffed olives. 00:22:08 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think they did. I think these were just essentially just different varieties of raw olives. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: Oh, isn't olive raw? 00:22:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're raw than or whatever. 00:22:18 Speaker 3: If you are, you're doing it wrong. Although not to say that you can't cook an olives. 00:22:22 Speaker 2: I've seen a cooked olive in like a Mediterranean dish. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: I guess I just mostly when I'm consuming olives, they're mostly in my martini, absolutely filthy, dirty. 00:22:33 Speaker 2: Full of olives. 00:22:34 Speaker 4: I do ask for a lot. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: How many are you having at martini? 00:22:37 Speaker 4: Well, you know it's bad luck if you have less than three. 00:22:39 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 00:22:40 Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's not bad luck if you have less than three. If there's an even number of olives. 00:22:44 Speaker 4: In the drinks, you're in a road to hell. 00:22:47 Speaker 2: If there's an even amount of anything in anything, it's off putting. You always want three or three, five, seven or one or one. 00:22:55 Speaker 4: One is fine. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: One is fine. 00:22:56 Speaker 4: That's like something I think people need to understand more. One is fine. Like maybe you in the coffee sitting you're over caffeinated. That's for sure. 00:23:03 Speaker 2: Says you're coming to terms with something. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, as become in terms of something I knew would happened. I knew with the clarity I was getting out here in the backyard, especially after this rain and the clarity I'm seeing, I knew I would come away with one thing, with something. 00:23:15 Speaker 2: Okay, so you watched probably three to four hundred hours of Survivor something like that, decided you would buy a bag of quenwa, which is secretly not a healthy food. It's like, I guess, in like anything, if you have a little bit, of course it's healthy. But if you eat a whole bag of quenoa, it's. 00:23:31 Speaker 3: Well, it's better than pizza, you know what I mean, Like it's better than boneless wings. So basically what I would do is like I would sit in front of Survivor and I have this thing I've talked to my therapist about it where I sometimes feel like, ooh, it's tribal council coming up. 00:23:43 Speaker 4: I have to get really stoned. 00:23:46 Speaker 3: So then like I like get really baked, and then I sit there and I'm like, well, now I'm hungry. And so then I said, I'm changing my life. That was a line from dream Girls. And I said, I'll make a vow to you start being healthier. Since but two bags of quenoa that was years ago. One of them is here. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: It's your what's the expiration? I feel like keenwa. I don't think as an ancient grain kind of does last story. If it's expired, I've gotten till March twenty twenty three, so that is shut. We are definitely riding the writing the edge of the keen water. 00:24:19 Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's not the rule of expiration. What you can actually eat things six months after? 00:24:24 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:24:25 Speaker 2: Interesting, So I'm I'm gonna like next September, I'm cracking this open and over. 00:24:30 Speaker 4: Just let me know when you cook it. 00:24:31 Speaker 3: And it's really easy to cook, like I said, it's pre rinsed then ready to cook. And really what this is is you just put it in some water. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: And just dump it in water. 00:24:39 Speaker 4: I have been. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: I've been looking to get into kind of a soup way of living. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: Have you heard about the s diet? No? What's that? 00:24:50 Speaker 2: He is the only anything you only. 00:24:52 Speaker 4: Eat soups or sandwiches. 00:24:54 Speaker 2: That's certainly not a diet. 00:24:55 Speaker 4: That's all the way just melts. Try it off. So I swear soups, salads. 00:25:01 Speaker 2: Sweat you're only allowed in hale and hardy. 00:25:04 Speaker 4: I love Halen Hardy. I miss it so hard. 00:25:06 Speaker 2: I do miss Halen Hardy. I know I've kind of complained recently on this podcast about there not being like a soup press can't count on in la. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: I'm really interested in opening it. 00:25:17 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we do. 00:25:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: Wait, have you ever heard this expression crazier than a soup sandwich? That is not I got it from the same YouTube recapper. Her is Brooke Ashley. By the way, she's iconic, She's my favorite. And she said one night I was watching it and she goes, Mary Cosby is crazier than a soup sandwich. And I said, oh my god, that is the funniest thing I've ever heard, because which is so crazy. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. My boyfriend says something that feels like a classic phrase. My boyfriend he like, let me run this by you. She can talk the chicken off a bone. Have you heard of this before? 00:25:55 Speaker 4: No, But now that I have, I'm so sorry to sell your boyfriend's not his thing anymore. It's my thing. He can talk the chicken off a bone. That is so I love it so much. 00:26:07 Speaker 2: Podcast listener, if you have heard of that phrase, reach out, I'm. 00:26:12 Speaker 4: Off a bone. Where is he from? 00:26:14 Speaker 2: He's from Jersey, does not feel like a Jersey as someone. 00:26:18 Speaker 4: From Long Island who shares culture with him. 00:26:20 Speaker 3: Of course I don't I that that. 00:26:24 Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question? 00:26:25 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:26:25 Speaker 4: Of course? Is he superstitious? 00:26:28 Speaker 2: He is a little. He's kind of like, uh, he feels like a like an Italian witch gods or I'm like, it feels like there's some old country superstition there. 00:26:37 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: Are you superstitious? 00:26:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, because my mother made me superstitious. 00:26:41 Speaker 2: What kind of things? 00:26:42 Speaker 4: I think it's a regional thing. 00:26:44 Speaker 3: Like for example, if I ever wear my socks when I'm sleeping, I have to take them off because the boogemia will come out of the closet. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: So that that's something you really believe. 00:26:54 Speaker 3: It's not something I really believe, but I will say I'm not comfortable righting it right. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: There is like just the tiniest percentage that could happen. 00:27:04 Speaker 4: Or you ever tell what the boogeyman? He's awful and he will kill you. 00:27:10 Speaker 2: What what is the boogeyman? You picture? When you picture the Boogeyman? 00:27:13 Speaker 3: First of all, I can't believe you're putting me in this position. I'm really scared and triggered. When I picture the boogi and I picture sort of like a cloaked figure. 00:27:22 Speaker 2: Cloaked kind of a grim reaper type. 00:27:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you never see his face, and in death that haunts you. Even in death, I never even saw his face. The man who, the man who condemned me to this reality of death. 00:27:37 Speaker 4: I don't even know what he looks like. 00:27:38 Speaker 2: Wow, that's about. 00:27:39 Speaker 4: Death, Bridger. You die with a lot of questions. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: You never hear about the boogiey woman. Okay, the Boogeyman is really a gender title that. 00:27:50 Speaker 4: If the boo First of all, the boogie woman. 00:27:52 Speaker 3: Sounds cool and sounds really cool. She sounds like actually like an icon. 00:27:57 Speaker 2: When you say boogie woman, that's just somebody dance. But Boogeyman is someone who's after you. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, Boogeyman is someone who's like a threat to be around and triggering, I said, And boogie woman is sort of just like someone I want to see, like take the road by storm. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: Wait, so okay, the sock thing. 00:28:12 Speaker 3: You're superstitious, Yeah, don't step on any cracks, break your mother's back. 00:28:17 Speaker 4: I cannot walk under any ladders. 00:28:19 Speaker 2: That's when I could get behind. 00:28:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, broken mirrors is a serious thing because you'll have seven years of bad luck. And every single time in my life i've seen a black cat, I either go as fast as I can buy it, or I swear to God a black cat has crossed my path in my life, I turn around and go the other way. 00:28:38 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. 00:28:40 Speaker 2: To me, that feels like it's going to be become a self fulfilling prophecy where it's like, upset your day in a way that's going to lead to bad luck. 00:28:47 Speaker 3: You know what I would say is that if that's true, at least I did. 00:28:52 Speaker 2: What I was picked your path. 00:28:54 Speaker 3: I picked my path, you know what, like exactly like you know what I mean, Like it's and ultimately like the cat is sort. 00:29:00 Speaker 4: Of dictating what I'm doing. And also it's like what I really think about that, it's like the cat was. 00:29:06 Speaker 3: Born and it has this this aesthetic quality and now everyone's afraid of it. Like now I'm walking up through and it doesn't feel right. It's unfair because it feels unfair to the cat. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: I mean, in this situation, really, if we get to the root of it, you're either letting the cat dictate your life or your mom. 00:29:23 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it is therapy. 00:29:26 Speaker 2: I just want to. 00:29:28 Speaker 4: It's like, all of a sudden taking this side of the mothers period. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: What's your mom's name, Katrina? Katrina? Does she ever go by Cat? 00:29:35 Speaker 4: She doesn't go by Cat. She goes by Trina. 00:29:37 Speaker 2: Trina. Oh, that's an interesting I like a person taking the last half of their name. 00:29:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trina is what she sort of is coloquily known as. And my dad is Richie, So they are Richie in Trina, which is sort of like an iconice. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: That's an incredible pairing Ritchie and Trina and Trina. That's she kind of takes the tofer Grace path. 00:29:57 Speaker 4: She's And can I tell you it took me years to realize that he was a Christopher. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: I mean I think that that's been hidden from a lot of us. 00:30:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but then of course it's like it's like it's like it's been right in front of you the whole time. 00:30:10 Speaker 2: That's because no one's named Christopher. 00:30:12 Speaker 4: Certainly not he should have. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: I mean, if he was going to do that, he should be named Tougher a period. And I think that, honestly, that was that was the big mistake there. But really had he been named Chris Grace, we wouldn't be talking about him. 00:30:23 Speaker 2: Chris Grace is a housewife. 00:30:25 Speaker 4: Chris Grace is basically that is giving Salt Lake City housewife. 00:30:30 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so we have the quenoa here, and you did kind of hint. I mean like it felt like you immediately pivoted away from the housewives in a way with the gift where I'm like, is there something else in this bag that has a bag? 00:30:42 Speaker 4: So I put it? I know you said no gifts. I brought two? 00:30:46 Speaker 2: Okay, So should that keen. 00:30:47 Speaker 3: Wa has nothing to do with the housewives? Is that just something I wanted to get rid of? I mean, give you. You seem to me like a keen wah person. 00:30:55 Speaker 4: You seem like a healthier person. 00:30:56 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. That's certainly not true. 00:30:59 Speaker 4: I'm what's what's the healthiest thing about you? 00:31:02 Speaker 2: What's the healthiest thing about unhealthiest? 00:31:03 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:31:04 Speaker 2: Did I eat garbage? 00:31:05 Speaker 4: You garbage? 00:31:06 Speaker 2: Like what burritos, hamburgers, fried chicken? 00:31:09 Speaker 4: Got it? 00:31:10 Speaker 2: Uh? 00:31:11 Speaker 4: You know? 00:31:11 Speaker 2: I'm part of that is my boyfriend is to blame because he's got a very limited palette, and so and then. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: He has a limited palate him being from a. 00:31:17 Speaker 2: Jersey right of course. And so when the option of fried chicken is is open, you'll always take it. 00:31:24 Speaker 4: So I agree, and I I identify with that. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: So in a way I really shouldn't have given that away. But here's the thing about that like, and this is not to dissuade you from making it. 00:31:35 Speaker 4: It's a process to make. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: How long does it take? 00:31:38 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. It probably says so on the bag. You have to understand. I haven't looked at it in years. 00:31:42 Speaker 2: I love Bob of Bob's Redmill. He the way he's looking at you from the package is so it's yeah, Scandaliz's first of all, it's. 00:31:50 Speaker 4: Great to have a character. He's in a full Asphodora and a blaro. And what is that thing is? 00:31:56 Speaker 2: What? 00:31:56 Speaker 4: What is that called? 00:31:57 Speaker 2: That's what I would call that little snow the uh you're never not talking about the cowboy. 00:32:02 Speaker 4: No, no, the cowboy necklace. But what is it called? 00:32:04 Speaker 2: It's called a bolo tie tie Jesus, this is definitely not a cowboy neck. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: Let me just give some correct information to the listener and say, the way that you make kanoa at least Bob's Red Milk kanwa is you bring two cups of water to a boil at a two cored pot, one cup of kinwa. Return to a boil, cover and reduce heat to medium and simmer until water is absorbed about twelve minutes. Remove from heat, fluff cover, and let's stand for fifteen minutes. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: So this is over. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: It's at least half hour of panicking about whether it's going to work out or not. I mean, it's basically just rice is such a tricky thing to make. 00:32:41 Speaker 3: It really is, because because you mess up and all of a sudden you're eating absolute. 00:32:45 Speaker 2: Mush, absolute or raw rice or raw rice. 00:32:48 Speaker 4: And I have to say, I am not an al dente person. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: An al dente rice al dente. I like a fluffy rice. I love a fluffy kingowa. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. You're gonna love the way you look. I guarantee it. 00:33:01 Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to go into my cabinet and sit there. I do have a lot of things, I mean, speaking kind of superstition, I bought a lot of things during the pandemic which are probably expired at this point. But I'll look and look at it, and I'll be like, but what if there's a catastrophe and I'm desperate. I'll leave it there for another few years. 00:33:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, right. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: And the thing is I thought that was non perishable and then was floored to realize that you only have until March slash September if my theory is correct. 00:33:27 Speaker 1: Right. 00:33:27 Speaker 2: I do get into kind of like a mindset of the road or whatever, where I'm like, I'm thinking about everything is dead. I'm going through the cabinets of strangers and i find like an old bag of quinoa. I'm like, yeah, I'll at least be able to chew on this. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing I've noticed is that you on your Instagram will definitely employ the gift, like you show the gift in process, Like I saw you wearing masks. 00:33:49 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you know what I mean. 00:33:51 Speaker 3: So I guess what I'm saying is if there's not content of you making the rice, I'll feel disrespected. I'll never come back here and I'll tell everyone that this was a bad experience. 00:34:04 Speaker 4: So you better make that and post it. 00:34:06 Speaker 2: People are going to see this keen while used in some way, I can't. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a paper weight. It's gonna it's honestly a heavy girl it's so nice. Little it's gonna keep the. 00:34:15 Speaker 2: Door stress thing. You can kind of squeeze. 00:34:17 Speaker 4: That's a really good idea too. 00:34:19 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not into cooking, you can always squeeze a keenwat bag. 00:34:22 Speaker 4: That's really good, like those stress balls. Yeah, honestly, yeah, that's really good. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to get into the gift bag here and see what else is happening. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: There's a second thing reaching in with the other thing. 00:34:32 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is some sort of it, this daily Glow. I have no idea. 00:34:36 Speaker 4: This is Whitney and it's it's from wild Rose Beauty. 00:34:43 Speaker 2: And I know you're a fan of living a small business. 00:34:46 Speaker 3: I know you're a fan of the Salt Lake City Housewives. And who doesn't love skincare Being in La You know it's very dry here. 00:34:52 Speaker 4: I know when I moved from New York to Los Angeles, my skin kind of wild reaction. I needed to start moisturizing. I wanted to get the dressed production. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: Until you move to La No. 00:35:01 Speaker 4: Because your boyfriend will tell you it's. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: Very humid, right of course. 00:35:06 Speaker 3: And so you come here, your skin it starts interacting on a day to day basis with this dry weather, you must moisturize. So I got the best product in the bins for you. 00:35:16 Speaker 4: Did you? Okay? 00:35:17 Speaker 2: So how did this come into your life? 00:35:20 Speaker 4: It was gifted to me by Whitney Rose. 00:35:22 Speaker 2: What I mean, I need this to be explained to me. So basically, I've been in front of her house. 00:35:28 Speaker 3: By the way, you've been in front of her house because I know you went to beauty lab. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: I've been in beauty labs so many times that I probably you should get some sort of free service. I mean I've never ordered it. I go in, I get a picture. Every time I go to Utah, I go and get a picture. 00:35:42 Speaker 4: You get a picture. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: They're always very gracious. Of course, they love when people are there for a picture. I don't know that I quite trust the situation I see. I mean, I haven't heard anything bad about it. Yeah, but I'm not ready to take the leap of them lasering me. 00:35:57 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: That being said, if I ever get worked one, I won't get it anywhere else. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: I recently learned that in Utah you don't need to be licensed to be an es to do literally anything an esthetician is that what you do when you're at the beauty Lab believe. So I believe, and this is all secondhand information, but I believe you can kind of just do it. 00:36:19 Speaker 4: So they're not like dermatologists. 00:36:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just like kind of people who have a game. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: Needs starts with needles, you know what I mean. 00:36:30 Speaker 2: I mean this is all hearsay. I can't quite speak to it, but that does worry me a bit. I have been in front of Whitney ro I kind of went on a tour. I've been given various information from people in Salt Lake. We're like, Oh, you've got to go to this person's house. You gotta go to this person's house. I have a picture of We'll have to post that to Instagram. I'm standing outside her house, which is kind of scary. My sister lived in her kind of the community that she lived, and she's like, oh, I know exactly where that is. 00:36:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the house that we see depicted on the show is her actual. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: Hits I mean, as far as I know. I'm standing, Yeah, it's her house. 00:37:02 Speaker 4: Did you go to Meredith Marks. 00:37:04 Speaker 2: No, that's in Park City and she's kind of all over the place. It's hard to pin down where she's living. 00:37:09 Speaker 3: Right's I know she's famously renting full out New Yorker. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't live there. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: I did meet Meredith Marks, and I met her because she came to the premiere of Fire Islands. 00:37:19 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was the experience? 00:37:21 Speaker 4: Like so Brooks with her, the whole family was there. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: So basically what happened was, I am all excited. It's the premiere of the first movie I'm ever in. And they really rolled out the red carpet for Fire Island like we were on a major press tour, Like it was like we were all over. So then I got to the premiere, It's one of the biggest, most exciting moments. I'm with a few dear friends and my parents. I step out. I feel I'm looking good. The publicist from search Light says to me, Meredith Mars is here, and I say where I be Lying away from the red carpet, I completely forget, like you just I was excited about. I was like, I don't care. I walk over to earth Marks. I say, Hi, it's so cool that you're here. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: I'm in the movie. It's so great to meet you. And she's like, oh my god, that's amazing. That's crowd them all that's grit. 00:38:12 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I've actually like talked to Brooks online because I have well, I have the full I have both Brooks Marks tracksuits. 00:38:20 Speaker 4: I have the Pride edition in classic. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: You are contributing to something that I don't. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, first of all, here's what I'll say about the Brooks Marks tracksuit for all the gay men out there. 00:38:32 Speaker 4: It gives ass. Oh interesting, it like lifts. I was like, are you kidding me? Like, and then I took a full photo shoot in there. 00:38:42 Speaker 2: How much does it cost? You have to say? 00:38:45 Speaker 3: I think it was like one, it's around one fifty. 00:38:50 Speaker 4: It really wasn't. 00:38:52 Speaker 3: And then I sort of became friendly enough with him online that he just sent me the Pride one. And the other thing was Meredith did not realize who I was when I was meeting her. She just thought, oh, he's saiding, I'm gonna ask crying. I came to say, huh, think about jaw And then like I took a picture with her. Seth took it and I said, Seth, oh, my god, you're here. She was like you're coming as wall And then I was like, okay, well I have to say hi to him. 00:39:17 Speaker 4: Then I do eventually get on the carpet. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: There's an iconic video of me like doing all my talking points for fire. I'm like, well, it's great to be in a movie about the Chosen family. I'm going acrosside. I was like, and you know, to do this with my actual friends was so great and I'm so proud of Jill went into it a funny writer. In the background. The entire Marx family is like posing on the red carpet, and I swear to god, I don't realize it, but the entire Marx family is just Marxing behind. 00:39:41 Speaker 4: It so to see. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: Eventually, later on she DMS me and she's like, I didn't realize who you were, but when you said when you posted that photoshoot of you in the brooks Marks tracksuit, it meant so much to us that he felt support. 00:39:55 Speaker 4: And then she goes I. 00:39:57 Speaker 3: She goes, I have to send you stuff, and then I was like, okay. She sent so much stuff from the I have I have like like eyeblinders from that say Meredith Mark's for when you sleep. 00:40:12 Speaker 4: I have a sweatshirt that says love you baby. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: I have ten brooks Marks hats three and white three and black three and like a few in another color, in a different style. 00:40:22 Speaker 4: I have so much stuff from them. They were very kind. And then I ran to her into her on the street again and she was watching an interview of jen Shaw and she said, it's so sad. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: What's happening? And I was like, are you guys on good terms? She goes, yeah, we're fine, and I was like, oh my god. And so then she goes, are you coming inside? And we were going to this to this event. It was like this event in New York. Again, she does not anywhere near now, and. 00:40:46 Speaker 4: Then she was all over New York. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: She's like, I'm meeting Duran too, Madley, and I was like, I cannot necessarily meet durand right now I'll turn to sand. 00:40:55 Speaker 4: But that's a nice to say. 00:40:57 Speaker 3: I am on the ground floor with the housewives enough where they will send things. 00:41:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do want to back up a moment. You just listened probably fifty things for Meredith. Not one of them is jewelry, which is the one thing that apparently she does has. 00:41:09 Speaker 4: She don't give that away. No, that's top dollar. 00:41:12 Speaker 3: And I did go on the Meredith Mark's jewelry store, OK, because I thought maybe let's get it like a nice piece for you know, the lady in your life. And I was like, okay, but it is like luxury jewelry, like it is actually really expensive. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: Well, I don't care. 00:41:25 Speaker 4: I don't care if she if she really is that in love with you. 00:41:31 Speaker 3: She'd send me a heart of the ocean, a ring or something exactly. So I've gotten tons of stuff from Meredith, but not jewelry, and Whitney has sent me several products. I actually had already bought the moisturide, and so I didn't need this one. 00:41:46 Speaker 4: And so that's why I give it to you. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: And have you interacted with Whitney. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: I have talked to Whitney online and we've not interacted in person. The only Salt Lake City house I have interacted with in person is Meredith Marx. I've interacted with Knee online, and I'm sort of afraid of Genshay. I never want to speak to her. I'm interested in, like Lisa Barlow interaction, Heather, I'm wary. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: Of You're wary of Heather. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: Why, Here's what I'll say. I think she's more of a queen Bee than we. 00:42:18 Speaker 4: Interest get from the show. 00:42:20 Speaker 3: And I think that she is one person on the show and potentially one person off, and I think you can kind of see glimpses of who. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: She is in the reunions, and you think she's awful. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: I don't think she's awful. I think she's superior. And I think this victim narrative that she places on herself I'm wary of. 00:42:36 Speaker 4: I'm very wary of people who clearly. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: Have a lot of money, friends, power, et cetera, and are the star of a reality show who say I'm a victim, who say, like, my reality is very sad and everyone picks on me. 00:42:50 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 00:42:51 Speaker 2: And she's she has clearly alienated anyone that should be actually close to her in real life. 00:42:57 Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'll say. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: If her entire thing is I'm such a friend, I will stick by you to the end, And that's gonna be the kind of friend I want to be to the rest of my days. Why is the earth scorched with her cousin and best friend Whitney Rose. But meanwhile she's like, I'm Rider's Eye gen Shaw, who's like a dangerous felon. 00:43:17 Speaker 2: I mean, it really tells us what all of these women are. But It's like she's clearly a criminal, and you're all acting like she's the victim in the situation. 00:43:24 Speaker 3: Hello, and they're like, oh my god, it's so sad. What's happening with Jen? I'm like, yeah, for sure, it said for her family. But anyway, we're in the weeds here. 00:43:32 Speaker 4: What suffice to. 00:43:33 Speaker 2: Say, I got a daily glow moisturize. 00:43:35 Speaker 4: I'm waiting on Vita tequila, Okay. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: And that's the only crazy she hasn't sent you any I mean, why don't think she. 00:43:42 Speaker 4: Knows I exist? 00:43:43 Speaker 3: Because I think if she did know I exist, it would be best friends and we'd be going on insane fast food runs together because I really respect and I. 00:43:51 Speaker 4: Can tell you do too. I'm having a trash boyfriend with a trash diet that you love her fast food. 00:43:57 Speaker 2: It's fascinating. She lives not that far from my parents, and I know, like I'll see the various food in her car and I'll be like, oh, I know exactly the location she I know that son, I know the gas station she was at where she got that sixty four ounce diet. 00:44:10 Speaker 4: Doctor Pepin, You're kidding me. 00:44:11 Speaker 2: I know her path. I could follow her path through town that is. 00:44:15 Speaker 4: Fun about watching one that takes place in your hometown. 00:44:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like a weird, little uncomfortable trip home all the time. Yeah, but we need to get you in touch with Lisa. 00:44:25 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be relatively easy. 00:44:27 Speaker 3: You know what, We did interact one time on Instagram because I posted a tagline that I thought she should use, which was I'll have a large fry, a diet coke, and the truth. And I was like, I think that that would be a really good tagline, and she actually responded and she said, that made my day. I just want to tell you that that made my day. And I was just like, oh my god, it's free to use. It's the public domain. And she I think herted that. 00:44:51 Speaker 2: But then she had a current tagline. 00:44:52 Speaker 3: Do you know Her current tagline is I always have your back if you stop stabbing me in mind. 00:45:00 Speaker 4: The taglines as of late have not been. 00:45:02 Speaker 2: Good, and we I feel like we need to get a couple more housewives in Salt Lake City. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: I feel like we're trying. 00:45:09 Speaker 1: Well. 00:45:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, Angie Harrington is haunted. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: What is she doing? She's in the show. Why isn't she just part of it? At this point? 00:45:15 Speaker 3: She like is part of it. They're trying to make her more of a thing. I think what happened, what's happening. 00:45:20 Speaker 4: Here Bridger is I think she's dumb as hell. 00:45:23 Speaker 2: Well, I hate to break it to you, but several of these people, well I don't know. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: She's just certainly not she's not really a positively not there. Well, did you watch the most recent episode where her and Whinney Rose were doing this little Gray Gardens. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: In the Weird Parlor. 00:45:36 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:45:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like her husband started like an Instagram to defame the other women on the shop. 00:45:42 Speaker 2: I's be coenntrolling them. 00:45:43 Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's crazy. 00:45:45 Speaker 2: It's weird to see on that show like something that clearly did happen in reality and somebody owning up to it because he obviously did do that, and he seems very uncomfortable to be admitting he's probably a fifty year old man who's like, oh, yeah, I made a fake Instagram account and was trolled. Yeah when reality. 00:46:02 Speaker 3: And then they cut to Meredith Marks being like so upset that she was at dinner with them. Now she's like, I'm here with a fifty two year old man who's an online troll. And then I felt at the end that in the in the Coming Attractions or the previews Coming. 00:46:15 Speaker 2: Attractions, in Directions Soon. 00:46:18 Speaker 3: Carnival, in the Coming Attractions, I'm gonna keep calling it that. Junshaw was like crying whipping her and referred to him as Angie's quote unquote fat elf on a shelf, and I thought, no, I don't like the body shaming fat. We need to take out. But calling him elf on the shelf, I thought was funny. 00:46:38 Speaker 2: It's a terrible insult though he looks nothing like an elf on the shelf. 00:46:41 Speaker 4: Have you seen an elf on the shelf? 00:46:43 Speaker 2: Does it have a beard? 00:46:45 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter? Or is it just funny? It's a clearly elf on the shelf? To me took me if she was gonna go. 00:46:53 Speaker 2: On Christmas theme, go Santa Claus. The guy looks has way more in common with Santa than Elf on the show. Is given like Hollywood Santa, Yeah, totally. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: If Santa moves to Hollywood, he looks like I'm going to say, his name is Chris Harrington. 00:47:05 Speaker 2: Wait, Chris Harrington. 00:47:07 Speaker 4: Very close to Chris Harrison? 00:47:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very close. 00:47:09 Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you I haven't about When I was on Who Wants To Be a Millionaire and Chris Harrison was the host. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: No when was this? 00:47:16 Speaker 4: This was two thousand and I'm going to say seventeen, okay, And I flew out to Vegas. 00:47:23 Speaker 3: Because I got on the show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And Chris Harrison was the host and I was on two episodes. 00:47:30 Speaker 2: Were in the capacity of like celebrity or just person. 00:47:36 Speaker 3: So I was recently on Celebrity Jeopardy just to let everyone know how far my career has come. I'm absolutely rocketed to the C list. So so, but this was when I was nobody. You understand, I was simply a server in Brooklyn, and in fact, I think that's what they said on the bottom of my screen. I didn't say because they asked for your job. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: And I this is at the time when I was like, I can't say I'm an actor because it's so humiliating, and it's even worse to say you're a comedian. 00:47:59 Speaker 2: But at that point, the post was a thing. They could have at least put a thing. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: But even the podcast host would be really embarrassing. And then Chris Harrison would be like, yeah, tell us about your podcast, and look like. 00:48:10 Speaker 2: To get into that. 00:48:11 Speaker 4: So anyway, Like I get there. 00:48:13 Speaker 3: And the thing about in comparing being on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and being on Jeopardy, you would think being on Jeopardy is much more stressful. No, Millionaire is so much more stressful because you're the only contestant and you have to answer every question and they're playing the music. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: The dude, you can feel the cameras zooming in on you. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: It's intense, and you're in the round. 00:48:35 Speaker 3: You're in a circle, and it's like Chris Harrison sort of staring at you watching it, I mean saying the question. 00:48:40 Speaker 4: There's just a lot going on. 00:48:42 Speaker 3: So I get far far enough where they have to like break for an episode in the middle, and they're like and tomorrow that's kind of bad. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: So you go change your shirt and then you have to re enter the. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: Space right to bring several shirt options. 00:48:53 Speaker 3: I had to bring at least two because too, because odds are you were going to be on two episodes if you did if you were worth your salt at all, and then a third one for if something like absolutely was not working on camera, honey. Then I So what happened was I re entered the space and I guess, like they were rushed because they gave me directions on how to re enter the space like after he announces me like sort of vaguely. So I messed up my entrance and I guess it was I guess it was the end of the day for him, so we had to do it again. He like basically was just like, you know, the energy was. 00:49:27 Speaker 4: Just like not good. 00:49:29 Speaker 3: He's also one of those hosts where you know, at the end of an episode where it's a game show where the host like chats with a contestant. 00:49:34 Speaker 4: What he was saying was and this is the part where we're talking, we were telling saying something et cetera. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: Like he wasn't even at that level. 00:49:41 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:49:42 Speaker 2: So it was that level of that's not really, that's not the regious energy. 00:49:45 Speaker 4: You know. 00:49:45 Speaker 2: Regis was getting little personal anecdotes. 00:49:49 Speaker 3: And I recently did Kelly Clarkson, and you know what happens when the cameras go down on her curse is like a sailor. 00:49:56 Speaker 4: I love it. 00:49:56 Speaker 3: She was like this motherfucker like I was of test, but that's like her vibe and that was a gag. 00:50:02 Speaker 4: Meeting her shoes one of my favorites. 00:50:03 Speaker 2: She's incredible. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: The best. 00:50:05 Speaker 3: And so anyway back to Chris Harrison, I messed up my entrance. I come back down for the for the new entrance, and he does that thing because I think he didn't like that. I was like being playful with the audience, like he was like ready to leave, like I messed up my entrance and I went like like that to the audience and they were like, aha, So I come back in and remember when Trump used to do that thing where he'd shake someone's hand and then pull. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but so he shaked my hand and then like oh when he was like yank you. Yes, I thought you were like I thought you were saying that Trump was like faking people out with you. 00:50:37 Speaker 4: No, no, no no. 00:50:37 Speaker 3: It's like grabs your hand a little too tight and then pulls you in psych it was like a Trump thing. It's like an alpha thing. It's like something that guys do to let you know, like there like to like you know, man, you like double dog you right, And so he did that to me. I came off my feet and honestly you can see in the video, I like I'm like literally yank towards him a little bit, and then I get around on the other side, and I'm pissed, like you can see in the video, I'm pissed off, and he just like starts in with those talking points and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But he was unequivocally an asshole. And to watch him lose his job and have all this stuff come out, it's the chef's kiss I've wanted for years because he was a jerk. 00:51:21 Speaker 2: Wow, that is how far? Like, what did you end up winning? 00:51:25 Speaker 3: I won five thousand dollars, so basically I got to twenty thousand and then I had twenty thousand, and I should have walked away. And then something happened where they asked me a question that was sort of a bullshit question, and me, being who I am, I was like, let's risk it, let's go. 00:51:40 Speaker 4: For it, and I just missed it. 00:51:42 Speaker 2: But well that's the question. Let me see if I can try to answer this. 00:51:45 Speaker 4: Okay, here it is. 00:51:47 Speaker 3: This is the correct spelling of the first name of the protagonist of Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol. Okay, here were the options. A Ebenezer e b e n I e z e r Okay, b Ebenezer e b e n eazy e r okay, C Ebenezer e b A n ea z e r d Ebenezer e b e n e e z e r. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: None of those are what I was imagining that I'm gonna have to go with B. 00:52:33 Speaker 4: You would have been right, Oh my god, So I thought I wasn't. 00:52:37 Speaker 2: I should have been there. I should have been there, you know what. 00:52:39 Speaker 3: I used my fifty to fifty huh, And they knocked out A and C, which I knew were not right right. And then something was like Ebenezer like the ease felt really long for me, and I was like, I think it's D was wrong. 00:52:52 Speaker 4: He was thrilled to see me go crushed. You left of five. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: Thousand dollars a thousand. But the good thing about it was I was out in Vegas and I taped. They asked you to save three days. I was there. I taped on the first day. So the next day I was just like, I'm spending this five K I got, which I spent it almost entirely in Bloody Mary's at the pool. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: Mandola beg how much did they take out of Texas? 00:53:14 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:53:15 Speaker 3: Probably like sixt you go home completely in the hole. Yeah, just like not you I went for the experience and they didn't find me out. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: They wan you had to pay to get there. Yes, so this you pay to get there. 00:53:28 Speaker 3: But like basically if you go and you win no money, you still get a thousand dollars for appearing. 00:53:32 Speaker 4: So like ultimately it like cancels out. 00:53:35 Speaker 2: And it's a yeah, like a life experience. It's sure you can tell later on a podcast that you don't know the correct spelling of Ebenezer. 00:53:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I will. I would actually say I did know it, but the stress got to me. And also what a stupid question that will? That will be with me forever? 00:53:53 Speaker 2: Of course you remembered it exactly. 00:53:56 Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. 00:53:57 Speaker 3: And it's also like it's out there, like I mean, you can watch it like on YouTube. There's like there's like still clips of it. But yeah, no, I did much better on Jeopardy. 00:54:06 Speaker 2: How much did you end up winning on Jeopardy? 00:54:09 Speaker 3: I so it was for charity because it was celebrity Jeopardy and also remember it's the celebrit Jeopardy is Jeopardy for babies of course. So it was me Ayisha Tyler and John Michael Higgins. 00:54:18 Speaker 2: Who were both wonder fantastic. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: And I started really bad, but ultimately I ended with a score of thirty thousand, five hundred dollars. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's pretty good. 00:54:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I won thirty thousand dollars for my charity, which is called Story Parts Change Makers. 00:54:32 Speaker 2: Oh that's a good that's a good charity. 00:54:34 Speaker 4: It is. 00:54:35 Speaker 2: What do you think is easier Celebrity Jeopardy or Teen Jeopardy? 00:54:40 Speaker 4: I think Celebrity Jeopardy is easier. 00:54:42 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:54:42 Speaker 3: Teen Jeopardy is, Like the reason why it's fun to watch teen Jeopardy is because they're so smart. Well, the thing is, you're never smarter than you are in high school. 00:54:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely true. There are things I knew in high school have vanished for mine. 00:54:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, you know, you could be defining what a river valley is. You can talk about how you know Mesopotamia was the first civilization, all the Doudet day, you know what I mean, Like. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: All these things that then pop up in Jeopardy. 00:55:09 Speaker 2: Later when there I wish I had held on to it. 00:55:12 Speaker 3: When they're like the category is World Rivers, I was like, I'm gonna put my buzzer downs. I'll be walking away. I'll be walking away world. If I was like on Jeopardy I was, I'd like to walk away. They're like, that's not how this one works. I'd like to walk away. 00:55:27 Speaker 2: That would be the best moment that ever. 00:55:28 Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna walk away. I should have done that. 00:55:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, next time. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: Well, actually no, When you mess around on Jeopardy, the Jeopardy fans get really mad. 00:55:38 Speaker 2: They're a very passionate crowd. 00:55:39 Speaker 4: You know who's really in trouble right now is Hassan minhaj. 00:55:43 Speaker 2: Oh I heard about doing on the show. 00:55:46 Speaker 4: Well, he was goofing off. Okay, he was sort of doing. 00:55:49 Speaker 3: He was doing a lot, And I would say, like, the comedian part of me is like, yeah, you're on Celebrity Jeopardy, like the now they're talking about you because you were funny, great, right. But the other half is like, these people take it seriously. 00:56:02 Speaker 2: It's temple. 00:56:03 Speaker 3: A lot of Jeopardy fans are upset that Celebrity Jeopardy even exists. Oh, of course, because they're like, these people aren't smart. They make a mockery of they're dumber, and why are they on there with the opportunity to earn money for anything? 00:56:17 Speaker 4: Never mind that it's charity. You freaks. 00:56:20 Speaker 3: They're like, these questions are garbage. And when you have like a brain fart moment on Celebrity Jeopardy, you're the dumbest person in the world. 00:56:28 Speaker 4: But meanwhile, on. 00:56:29 Speaker 3: Regular Jeopardy, they have those moments all the time, and they're just like, well, sometimes that happens. 00:56:35 Speaker 2: I feel like some real dummies sneak into regular Jeopardy. 00:56:39 Speaker 3: What I am as a celebrity rights activist. 00:56:44 Speaker 4: No, but he is in trouble. 00:56:46 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:56:47 Speaker 4: And Elizah Schlessinger was in trouble too well because she was goofing off too much. But she won. She won, she won somehow, she was horrible on the show ship. 00:56:57 Speaker 2: Who is she up against? 00:56:58 Speaker 3: I don't know. I said, they're not actually famous. I'm not a celebrity. I mean, I'm not walking on the streets. People are being like, oh my god, like did you meet Rogers? I love that for you, Like. 00:57:09 Speaker 4: None of you watched it. You were good in it, thank you so much, truly good. 00:57:12 Speaker 3: And people did watch it. I guess I'm just trying to self deprecate. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: Sure, and it's on showtime, and thank you for that. There are forty people watching show. I mean forty people subscribe to Showtime and. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: My special Have Your Head of Christmas is streaming December. 00:57:24 Speaker 2: Second you, oh, that's period. We've got to cut that out. We'll cut out the show Time talking. 00:57:31 Speaker 3: About No, we can't cut it out. Because here's what I want to say to people. If you don't want it, just get the thirty day trial. Get the thirty day trial. If you're a Matt Rogers fan, if you're in the Matt Rogers fan community, watch the special. 00:57:44 Speaker 2: Met hold for one second, because we're gonna play a game and you're gonna have an opportunity to promote this. You're gonna have a full. 00:57:50 Speaker 4: No, you're wrong. 00:57:50 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have two opportunities because I'm gonna keep saying what I'm saying right now. And you can stream the eight episodes or season one of I Love that for you stalking when that's a Bear Malee show and Jennifer Lewis and me and Matt Rodgers that that's. 00:57:59 Speaker 2: Very good in the show. Thank you so much, very good. 00:58:01 Speaker 4: Uh, thank you for watching it. 00:58:03 Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game. 00:58:04 Speaker 4: Now. 00:58:05 Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game. Now for now, we're gonna play a game. Let's play gift Master, actually for game called gift Master. 00:58:13 Speaker 4: Whatever do you think would be most fun for I'm. 00:58:16 Speaker 2: Trying to think of the last game we played. You know, listeners starts screaming if a game doesn't get played often and off that sort. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: Of So I want to play the game that everyone's gonna be most excited about. 00:58:24 Speaker 2: Okay, I think they'll they'll be happy to play this game. Okay, unless you fuck it up. Oh god, that would be terrible. I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:58:33 Speaker 4: Well, then I'm gonna choose six. 00:58:35 Speaker 2: Okay, six. I have to do some light calculating. Okay, so I have to get the game pieces. 00:58:39 Speaker 4: This is your testing to a kind of gag that I picked six. 00:58:42 Speaker 2: Six is a bad number. It's kind of a nasty number, but that's. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: I was just gagged because I thought it was random. You were saying, you know, you say my choice is bad. Use the word bad and nasty. 00:58:55 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. 00:58:56 Speaker 3: I come with gifts because he demands gifts. I come in certainly didn't demand gifts. I begged you not to for months, Larissa. I don't know what Analise and Larissa were talking about on the email thread. Analis is doing some things that are really disrupting this. You know how describer underhanded, sneaky, I would say, sneaky, sneaklicitous. 00:59:21 Speaker 2: You have the mic to continue promoting or recommending. I mean, yeah, you've got you still have some things to promote. I feel like it's an endless well of you will till you're dead. Your last words will be promotion shit. 00:59:36 Speaker 4: On Netflix. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: Okay, so everyone watched Q fours on Netflix. It's a ten episode, a queer animated spot show. It will not get a second season. I hope that you watched Hot Dog on HBO Max, the dog groom and competition show I hosted, because you can't watch it anymore. They've taken it off stream. The podcast Last Culture says, wherever you do get your podcast, I co host that with little known comedian and Yang, someone who's actually famous and therefore would never do celebrity Jeopardy, would never stoop to such a thing, though I do think he'd do well on it because he's smarter than me. He's both more famous and smarter than me, and dress is better. 01:00:14 Speaker 4: So those are certainly things I have going on. 01:00:18 Speaker 3: And so is this where you said I have the opportunity to promote is this okay? So, and my tour Have you Heard of Christmas? Is on sale now? Please come. I'm going to fourteen cities. It accompanies the musical comedy special of the same name, Matt Rogers. Have you Heard of Christmas? The streams December second and then henceforth forever, we hope, unless they HBO Max hot dog it and yank it on down. So watch it while you can, because the industry is in disarray and Bridger's back. 01:00:43 Speaker 2: The industry is flipping the lights off. 01:00:45 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 01:00:46 Speaker 2: The television will probably be around for another two years, so I hope people enjoy it. 01:00:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we're all going to be just like on TikTok. 01:00:54 Speaker 2: Have you recently joined TikTok? 01:00:56 Speaker 4: Yes? 01:00:56 Speaker 3: I recently joined TikTok because I was told I must, literally, in order to promote the special, you gotta get on TikTok. I was like, They're like, if you're not gonna be on Twitter, you gotta be on TikTok. And I refuse to be on Elon Musk's Twitter. Oh of course, there's absolutely no way. And so I won't get back on Facebook either. No, I will only be. 01:01:13 Speaker 2: That would love for you to go to Facebook to promote the special. 01:01:17 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well they asked me to and I was like. 01:01:19 Speaker 2: That does being on any of none? No, No one wants to be told to watch anything on any of these services. It does nothing. 01:01:25 Speaker 4: I don't want any Facebook people at my show either. 01:01:27 Speaker 2: That would be very I want you to get on Facebook Marketplace and try to sell tickets to you. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and that'll be the real that'll be that you know you use it, rock bottom. 01:01:39 Speaker 4: Please my tickets to the show, especially in Atlanta. We're struggling there. 01:01:41 Speaker 2: I do want Atlanta reach out. 01:01:46 Speaker 4: Don't reach out, just buy tickets. I don't want to know not to engage. See me at the take a picture. 01:01:52 Speaker 2: I do want to ask you before we get into the game. Yeah, just quickly, I want to talk about Mariah Careyes, all I want for Christmas? 01:01:58 Speaker 4: Is you sure? 01:01:58 Speaker 2: Something that I've been thinking about recently is will there ever be a more beloved Christmas song? And what would it take? 01:02:06 Speaker 4: We won't know in our lifetime, I don't think. 01:02:09 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting kind of like will we ever get to another planet? 01:02:11 Speaker 4: Then? Right? So it's sort of like I think it took. 01:02:17 Speaker 3: It's actually interesting I would love to go back into a time in a time machine, back to whenever that song was released. I guess ninety four, yeah, I think ninety four yeah, And I would love to see how people reacted to it at the time. I'm sure it was a hit because I remember it being like a big hit when even when I was like seven eight years old, when I started to really love Mariah and it was on the radio all the time, And I think I've always identified it as like a modern classic. 01:02:41 Speaker 4: Right now, it's just a standard. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh so who knows if, like, you know, we'll say her name again. Kelly Clarkson's Underneath the Tree in twenty years is a modern standard. I don't know that anything is hit as hard that's new. 01:02:54 Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe there is something out there that is making its way into the the thing. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: It's hard to write because the Christmas sound like and to like earnestly plug the show. Basically, what my show is is it's an original pop Christmas album, right and it's basically me trying to be the Prince of Christmas, like Mariah is the Queen of Christmas, and this show is a documentation of that. So because capitalism and of course, holidays, celebration, being together, et cetera, all those things. Senna vibes not red and green for you, not necessarily. It's more of a silver and gold moment. You ever seen the original Rudolph the clamations. 01:03:34 Speaker 4: Of culverin. 01:03:38 Speaker 2: Specifically for you? 01:03:39 Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, so that was that. 01:03:41 Speaker 3: I actually in the in the special and practice say I wear a silver suit, so you can't tell me that I'm messing up with colors. 01:03:49 Speaker 4: But how did I How did I get? 01:03:51 Speaker 2: We're trying to get to like, what will there ever be a thing to write? 01:03:55 Speaker 3: It's hard to It's hard to write a Christmas song that feels really different from everything else and therefore stands out enough to become a classic because the Christmas sound is so specific and you need certain elements. 01:04:08 Speaker 2: Like you need like the ding ding bell, some sort of bell. 01:04:10 Speaker 3: You need some chimes orchestraly, like we're working in the same area. So I think until someone can reinvent the form a little bit, we won't get like necessarily a classic song. But people should watch my special and tell me if there's a front runner for. 01:04:27 Speaker 2: Yes, you might be the person. Yeah, I mean it could it wouldn't that be fun? You never know, you just truly never. 01:04:34 Speaker 3: I guess we'll find out and that people feel free to tell me if all the songs. 01:04:37 Speaker 2: Are flops, reach out Atlanta, reach out at lant to reach out. Okay, we've delayed enough with the game. This is how the game works. Over your name three gifts. You can give away, three things that you'll be giving someone. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: And being giving season. 01:04:52 Speaker 2: This is good, Yeah, this is absolutely perfect. And then I'm going to name three celebrities. Okay, you're gonna tell me which celebrity you will give which gift and why. 01:05:00 Speaker 4: I love this. 01:05:00 Speaker 2: That make perfect sense. 01:05:01 Speaker 3: That actually makes extreme sense to me, and I'm excited. 01:05:05 Speaker 4: I'm a giver. 01:05:05 Speaker 2: Okay, so these are these are all kind of unconventional gifts. Number one A low rated morning talk show? 01:05:13 Speaker 4: Got it so? 01:05:14 Speaker 3: Low rated morning talk show? Now can I ask a clarifying question? Of course, does the low rated morning. 01:05:19 Speaker 4: Talk show stay on the air or does. 01:05:21 Speaker 2: It get Yes, I mean it's it's definitely staying on the air, maybe because there's just not a better option, or. 01:05:26 Speaker 3: Maybe the network is like, we put a lot of money into what we're going to see it through. 01:05:29 Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna let this thing totally sink. 01:05:31 Speaker 4: Us a low rated morning talk show. Okay. 01:05:34 Speaker 2: Number two, and this isn't an interesting one. And at an appearance on this. 01:05:38 Speaker 4: Podcast, and the listeners are dedicated. 01:05:41 Speaker 2: We've got a dedicated audience. Do they have a name listener? 01:05:45 Speaker 4: Listener? 01:05:46 Speaker 2: I think that at some point people were pitching things and I thought, can we just call them the listener? Okay, because there's a respect there, there's I think that I just that's what they're doing. They're listening. They're hopefully doing absolutely nothing else while it's happening, sitting still and yeah, just completely maybe taking taking notes. 01:06:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a gracious host. 01:06:06 Speaker 3: So this and and like I said, this atmosphere is beautiful and I'm having a wonderful time. 01:06:12 Speaker 4: So that is a true gift. Uh. 01:06:14 Speaker 2: And Number three the United States of America. 01:06:17 Speaker 4: Giving them the power to govern the country. 01:06:20 Speaker 3: They get get the country, and we've seen that go certain ways. 01:06:24 Speaker 2: It's got some nicks and some dents. 01:06:27 Speaker 4: It's well, we have a long way to go. 01:06:28 Speaker 2: We've got we really do. 01:06:30 Speaker 3: And this country has immortal wound. We can't get into it too much, but let's just say that there's a lot of deep seated issues in the country. 01:06:38 Speaker 2: Or it's a divided land that is. 01:06:40 Speaker 4: Not even that is that is a loaded gift, has. 01:06:43 Speaker 2: A major responsibility. It's kind of like a dog giving a child a pet. It's like there's a lot more. You've got to walk this thing every day, and you've got to feed it, and it could bite you. 01:06:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And that's got many enemies. 01:06:54 Speaker 2: Right as we know about dogs, they all have tons of enemies. 01:06:58 Speaker 3: Well when a dog, when a dog does not like another dog, you fucking know. 01:07:02 Speaker 2: It, it will be jaws around throat. 01:07:05 Speaker 3: Honey, that dog is Saudi Arabia over there, that dog is China as hell. 01:07:09 Speaker 4: You don't like us, Okay. 01:07:12 Speaker 2: The celebrities. Number one, Michael Shannon, he haunted Michael Shannon. I love Michael Shannon. Number two, this is unusual. It's a group. It's the Scars Guard family, the entire clan. 01:07:25 Speaker 4: That's honestly, I have an instinct for them already. 01:07:29 Speaker 2: Okay, it's help me. I know. It's Bill the father. Yeah, Stellin' stellin. I always feel like Stellen should be Bill and Bill should be Stelling because Bill is older and Bill sounds like an older person's name. 01:07:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, Stellin feels more closer to their like Nordic. 01:07:48 Speaker 2: Roots, right, but like also younger and fresher and new. And there are probably other scars Guards. If there's three, there's gotta be more, for sure, for sure, But it's the scars Guard family. There's mother because in the picture, unless they were all adopted by gay men. 01:08:05 Speaker 3: I don't think they're brought together. I don't get the sense that they've been around a lot of games. 01:08:08 Speaker 2: I mean, it could be a generations and generations of gay men adopting other. Uh, it's a possibility, it's certainly not out. 01:08:16 Speaker 3: I I do think that there was a mother involved, but it's great that you're open to that. 01:08:22 Speaker 2: Number Three we love her Juliette Binoche. 01:08:25 Speaker 3: Juliette Binoche. She of course a stunning actress. I knew her from Chocolatte, I knew her from Dan in real life. She actually turns quite the performance in Dan in real Life and Dan in Real Life, starring Steve Carell and Dane Cook, a much better movie. 01:08:41 Speaker 2: Cook is in that movie. 01:08:42 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the recent films. 01:08:45 Speaker 3: My bit is that if I ever meet Dane Cook, I'm gonna say I love your films. Good luck Chuck Dan in real life employee of the Month. 01:08:54 Speaker 2: That's an interesting you can really watch the downhill slide for that career into the mayor. 01:09:00 Speaker 4: The Oh what does she six? 01:09:05 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have the celebrities. 01:09:08 Speaker 3: We had Michael Shannon, the Scar's guard family, and Juliete Binoschi. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: Most recently of the Staircase. 01:09:13 Speaker 4: Yes, didn't see it. 01:09:14 Speaker 2: Oh, she's excellent. 01:09:15 Speaker 3: I'm sure she's very talented. So I'm to give one a low rated morning talk show. I'm to give one of the United States of America, and I'm to give one an appearance on this podcast. 01:09:26 Speaker 2: Which in a way is kind of a gift to me. Yeah, so you have to think about me in this scenario. 01:09:30 Speaker 3: So, in picking up on the things I've picked up on, you said you loved Michael Shannon. 01:09:35 Speaker 2: I do, like I love all of these people. I mean, I probably know you need. 01:09:39 Speaker 4: To say that about all of them. 01:09:41 Speaker 2: Now I'm begging. I'm like, I'm trying to throw you off here. 01:09:43 Speaker 3: What I'd like to do is I would love to see Michael Shannon come here and guests on this podcast. I'm going to give that gift to him. You have a wonderful conversation, and I think that honestly, this atmosphe would lighten him up a little. 01:09:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think he would be like on a podcast? U. 01:10:00 Speaker 3: I think he would answer directly but wouldn't elaborate on a lot of things. I think it would just be very like you know, I think you'd I think it would be forty five minutes. 01:10:11 Speaker 4: I think that you. 01:10:13 Speaker 2: I think a lot of a lot of me talking, a lot of me carry. 01:10:16 Speaker 3: And I don't think he'd bring a gift, which I know you say you don't want, but is crucial to the podcast a gift. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: And that's like his publicist is probably too scared to tell him that, like that's part of this podcast, and so he just shows up and he's like. 01:10:31 Speaker 3: I saw I said no gifts, And I always pay very close attention to the text, and so he's he's like someone that's like an actor. He's like, I saw the text, was I said no gifts. You gave me a directive and what do you mean I didn't do it right, et cetera. So he's coming on the podcast, right, Juliette Binoche, I feel it's getting the low rated morning talk show because I feel that she has the power as an grounded actress to get people to really drop in. I see her in sort of a Kashmir. I see like her coming in, sitting down like golf collaps in the audience, no monologue, just today, We're going to be speaking with someone I've wanted to talk to for a very long time. 01:11:09 Speaker 4: It's cap Lanchette. 01:11:10 Speaker 3: And then she comes out and sits down and they sort of just talk about the craft of acting. And it's got like a dedicated audience of not that many people, but it's sort of more ASMR than anything else. 01:11:22 Speaker 2: I think that she actually makes perfect sense for a morning show. That's the sort of morning show I want to watch where it's like I'm waking up. I need it to be a little bit more quiet. I need to be. 01:11:30 Speaker 4: Kelly Ripa screaming, you know what I mean. 01:11:32 Speaker 3: It's like it's Juliette Binoch sort of like gently whispering a suggestion. 01:11:37 Speaker 2: I would love, yes, love for her to have a low rated morning talk show. 01:11:42 Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm giving the United States of America to the Scar's guards who come from a socialist country and so they come from. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: Norway, Okay, sure, which is doing it right, right, of course, there's never any trouble. 01:11:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's sort of Northern European way of life is something I wish we'd emulate here more. And I think that because they are so powerful, and if Alexander is the face of it all, I think some of these people are just gonna do what he says. I mean, I will do whatever that man says. In an of course, he could tell me to do whatever. So if he is the president, that's gonna be someone I follow. 01:12:17 Speaker 2: He would be an incredible I feel like he actually will That feels like a presidential candidate. Too bad he's born in another country. 01:12:24 Speaker 4: That's true, I'm still giving. 01:12:26 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just being handed over. 01:12:27 Speaker 3: Right because in this scenario it's I mean sort of those rules don't really apply. 01:12:31 Speaker 2: Are the scars Guards fleeing Norway? 01:12:34 Speaker 4: I don't even I certain they live in La Boo. 01:12:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like they are kind of turning their back. So what I thout the Scarsguard family. 01:12:43 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're turning their back in their country. I think they moved to America, the land of great opportunity, in order to further their careers, and they have and so this is in. 01:12:52 Speaker 4: Many ways the American dream. 01:12:54 Speaker 3: Right. 01:12:55 Speaker 2: What's the other family the Australians, the athor oh, the hems the Hemsworths, that's right, Yeah, you're all strong. Okay, these families, these talents, Yeah, they. 01:13:04 Speaker 4: Come over in their talents and families. Yes, becuse you know what. 01:13:07 Speaker 3: There's Chris Hemsworth, there's Liam Hemsworth, and then there's another hems Luke Luke, say Luke, can you imagine being Luke Hemsworth. 01:13:14 Speaker 4: That's like being what's that? Uh? The Jonas that's not Nick Jonas or Joe. 01:13:20 Speaker 2: Jonas, Devon, Yeah, Devon Jonas. 01:13:23 Speaker 3: Devin Jonas. And what is his name? That sucks Jonas? It is Kevin. It's not Devon, it's Kevin. You were so close for Kevin. Kevin reach Out, Atlanta. 01:13:36 Speaker 2: Reach Out. 01:13:36 Speaker 4: He would do this podcast. 01:13:38 Speaker 2: Kevin stay at home, but he'd bring his wife. Is he real? Religious? 01:13:44 Speaker 4: I think that. 01:13:44 Speaker 3: They're all some sort of vague used to be wearing up. People got married because couldn't fuck without it, et cetera. 01:13:56 Speaker 2: Okay, uh, excellently played beautiful. 01:13:59 Speaker 3: I think that that I honestly think that all of those things, if they happened would make the world a better place. 01:14:07 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I can't imagine the Scars Guard family being a guest on this pot. I don't know how I would handle it. I actually think that would be shorter than forty five minutes. I think that that you would have so little to say to me. 01:14:19 Speaker 4: Well, I got to say something. You don't have enough mics for that. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: No, I mean, God knows how many people are showing up. We've we named three, but we don't know how many other Scars Guards exist. 01:14:27 Speaker 3: You haven't created an atmosphere that's conducive to the Scars Guards being here. 01:14:32 Speaker 2: You're blaming me. 01:14:33 Speaker 4: Yes, you need a mic. I need a mic. 01:14:35 Speaker 3: Analyst needs a mic because when she chimes in, it's perfect. What do you have to say right now? Anything good? 01:14:42 Speaker 4: Having a great time, a great time? Okay? Do you agree with my gifts? 01:14:46 Speaker 2: I thought about having Juliette come on the podcast because from a producers standpoint, I thought the same. I thought maybe Michael wouldn't talk that much. I didn't want that to drive you crazy. I will say, Michael, I feel like we're all under underestimating Michael. 01:14:59 Speaker 4: I think he me. 01:15:00 Speaker 2: Look, here's the thing's true. 01:15:03 Speaker 3: Like these actors are like, it's like, yeah, but at the end of the day, you're in full makeup every day and you you do hit the carpet, babe, And it's not like you weren't dating like Michelle Williams, you know what. 01:15:14 Speaker 4: I mean, Like, come on, one time I saw him in Red Hook because I Michael Shannon. 01:15:19 Speaker 3: Yes, because Michelle Williams like lived over where I was waiting tables and he was just walking in a fair way to name another supermarket. 01:15:30 Speaker 4: And I literally was like, oh my god, this Michael Shannon. 01:15:32 Speaker 3: And he was with I guess like a young child, and it was giving like gruff parent that makes sense Sunday morning vibes, but certainly like he's an actor. 01:15:44 Speaker 2: He's an actor. But I I, Michael, if you're listening, I feel like you've got a fun side. 01:15:48 Speaker 4: I feel sure. 01:15:49 Speaker 2: I feel like he's light and airy. 01:15:52 Speaker 3: I think that if he came here, you would charm him so that he would open up. And also, here's another thing for the producing element. 01:16:02 Speaker 2: It stop. 01:16:03 Speaker 4: I need to switch jackets. 01:16:04 Speaker 2: Okay, I just I want to wear that jacket for the final segment of the podcast. So we are switching jackets and there is going to be an energy shift on the podcast. There's no helping. God only knows. This smells great? What sort of this feels like you've got a cologne on. 01:16:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, actually last night I did put a colone. 01:16:28 Speaker 2: I'm going to take that. 01:16:28 Speaker 4: I was trying. 01:16:29 Speaker 3: I was trying to impress someone who doesn't want to date me anymore. 01:16:32 Speaker 2: So that looks great. I mean, it's certainly too small for you. 01:16:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little small, but because because you're more of a small and I'm more of a medium, Yeah, you're definitely it's size queen. 01:16:42 Speaker 4: You rare. 01:16:43 Speaker 2: You rarely meet a medium. It's either a small or a large person. At this point, well, you wouldn't know. 01:16:48 Speaker 4: They don't have my size. Mediums are going in there scooping everything up. 01:16:52 Speaker 2: So now I feel like I'm wearing older brothers jacket. 01:16:54 Speaker 4: You look great. 01:16:55 Speaker 3: I feel a little si and the colors are going as it is too big for you, but I would say that the colors are working in an intense way, like you're now color blocking. 01:17:05 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm color black. 01:17:06 Speaker 4: I like this jacket for you. 01:17:08 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see, we'll see. There will be a picture on. 01:17:10 Speaker 3: The internet complimenting the colors of your jacket. Someone who's blind to color, as I made. 01:17:14 Speaker 2: It, very insulting problems. 01:17:16 Speaker 4: Does this work on him? 01:17:18 Speaker 2: Gorgeous? 01:17:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, here we go. 01:17:20 Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll let the listener decide. 01:17:22 Speaker 4: Ultimately, it's iconic. 01:17:23 Speaker 2: Okay, we have to answer a listener question. 01:17:25 Speaker 4: Yes we do. 01:17:26 Speaker 2: This is called I said no emails people write into. I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Just very clearly they're desperate for answers. That's all you need to do. 01:17:34 Speaker 4: These people are desperate. 01:17:35 Speaker 2: These I've said it a million times, My listeners have their lives are a mess. These like if you're listening to this podcast, there's clearly something wrong, and so they're they're writing in and they're struggling. So one person at the time, we're helping, we're improving, we're protecting. 01:17:50 Speaker 4: It's a service. 01:17:51 Speaker 2: It's a service. It's absolutely a free service. Let's see here. This is hello Bridger and guest. I never thought I'd have to buy you with an email. 01:18:01 Speaker 4: Well you, I mean, well, guess what. From the get go, guess what. You're a huge nuisance. 01:18:06 Speaker 2: Because I think of myself as a good gift giver. However, this year my twenty year old cousin has been added to the Family Secret Santa. That's already a weird things part of the family thing. 01:18:17 Speaker 4: Do you have to turn twenty? 01:18:19 Speaker 2: Do you have to submit an application? Okay, So the twenty year old's been added to the Family Secret Santa, and I've been tasked with getting her a gift. We don't live close and have never connected. We're ten years apart, and all she ever wanted to do was watch cartoons. Okay, here's what I know about her. She's always been very She's always been very boring. She works for what looks to be some sort of telemarketing company that exclusively employs college students, and she maybe likes photography parentheses, very hard to tell. I looked at her Instagram follows to get ideas, and she seems to like bands like Bruno Mars. Not a band person five seconds of five seconds of Summer? Is that a band? That's a collection. I could tell you that's a horrible band, not bad. Harry's Styles again not a band, and Demi Levado not a band. Most of these are people, but the only one performing near her next year is Bruno Mars, and the tickets are eight hundred dollars. 01:19:15 Speaker 4: It's going to be way out of parameters. 01:19:18 Speaker 2: The limit is one hundred dollars. And also there's no world where I give Bruno Mars eight hundred dollars. I have a really good idea already Parenthesesi's talented. He just doesn't need my eight hundred dollars. Okay, that's up for debate. She also follows a lot of app games on Instagram, including one for erotic storytelling. Okay, any help would be much appreciated. And that's simply from k Kay has completely just come on here to bully her boring cousin. 01:19:42 Speaker 4: But I have a really good idea idea for catch. Okay. 01:19:45 Speaker 3: What so a couple of years ago, during the pandemic, I had time to really be thoughtful about gifts that I wanted to give my friends, and I thought, what would be something fun and unique and easy? 01:19:59 Speaker 4: Right? 01:20:00 Speaker 3: I went on Google and I typed in coasters with people's faces on them, like drink coasters, okay, with like celebrity yes, okay, and you can find anyone's face on a coaster. So what I did, from like a group of like twelve gays that are my friends, was I thought about who they stand. 01:20:16 Speaker 2: Ok. 01:20:17 Speaker 3: I ordered coasters with those people's faces on them, and then I drove around like a little gay Santa and dropped them all off, and. 01:20:23 Speaker 4: They love them. 01:20:25 Speaker 2: What sort of people were on these coasters? 01:20:27 Speaker 3: So my friend Jared, like he's like a huge swifty So I actually found coasters online. At the time, she had eight albums out. Now she's got ten because she's very prolific woman. But now he has eight coasters, each designed after with the with like the vibe of each of her eight albums. 01:20:45 Speaker 4: Wow. 01:20:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he uses these were official coasters. It doesn't say someone made them on Etsy. Oh. 01:20:50 Speaker 4: Interesting, But this. 01:20:51 Speaker 3: Is why what's gonna what's gonna be good for this person is he has to be less than one hundred dollars. 01:20:55 Speaker 4: You're not going to go to some artist's store. 01:20:57 Speaker 2: Right, It's like thirty dollars for one coaster, right exactly. 01:21:00 Speaker 3: And So I got my friend Lewis, I got Madonna, my friend Chris, I got him. 01:21:06 Speaker 4: What did I get for him? 01:21:08 Speaker 3: Maybe it was Nicole Kidman, my friend Patrick, I gott oh Kylie Minogue, oh, you know, like a ton And I got Kelly Clarkson for myself, and like my friend Mason got Demi Levado. Like, so what I'm saying is a coaster is a really practical, useful thing. She's turning twenty so soon she's gonna turn twenty one. 01:21:26 Speaker 2: Right, She's got furniture that she's just putting drinks raw. 01:21:29 Speaker 3: Exactly, And I mean that's the thing, is like you don't understand until you become a little bit older the value of a coaster. 01:21:36 Speaker 4: So what I would say is I. 01:21:37 Speaker 3: Would google Bruno Mars coaster, Harry Styles coaster, Demi Levado coaster. 01:21:41 Speaker 4: I can tell you that it exists. I bought it myself. 01:21:44 Speaker 3: And then look, but they're out there and maybe like out of people, out of those people, I don't know about five seconds of summer coaster, but certainly like you could find the people that she really likes, so that she could have like a decorative element around her house that's also practical that features them now and then it's also a versation piece. 01:22:00 Speaker 2: These coasters are photos, just random photos that someone's obviously stolen copyrighted photos and put on a coaster. 01:22:06 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what's funny, sometimes their art is in though and what I almost brought you, but that I realized maybe might have been too nice of a gift. And not to say that you don't deserve a nice gift, but one. 01:22:18 Speaker 2: I've definitely just put it out there. Well, this actually has this, I mean, and this is actually something in my life. Yeah, this is such a deeply personal thing. I've been in front of this woman's house exactly. 01:22:29 Speaker 4: You can glow like Whitney ros daily. 01:22:32 Speaker 3: But I almost brought over here a coaster that's like a glass coaster, really nice coaster with David Bowie on it. 01:22:39 Speaker 2: Oh, that's beautiful, and I thought, too, that's too What would we talk about? Then we're talking about my favorite Bowie albums and everyone's bored to death? 01:22:47 Speaker 4: I know. 01:22:48 Speaker 3: Don't you think he deserves like a rocket Man or Bohemian Rhapsody esque movie about him? 01:22:56 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think anyone should try. I think that that's who's gonna It's gonna end up being shalome and you're all gonna hate it. No, I don't want to see Prince biopic. I don't want to see a David Bowie because they're too good. 01:23:08 Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, what do you think of this Whitney one coming out? 01:23:11 Speaker 2: I'm concerned me too. 01:23:12 Speaker 3: You're concerned, yeah, they said, by the producers of Bohemian RAPSI, and I was like, oh, I'm freaking out. 01:23:18 Speaker 2: Oh well, then I'm definitely concerned. There's no chance who's sling Whitney. 01:23:24 Speaker 4: Her name is Naomi Aki or she's a new actress. 01:23:29 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:23:29 Speaker 2: I mean that's a good sign that it's not you know somebody that were just like, oh, that's that person. Yeah, right, But I can't imagine that's going to be a good film. 01:23:37 Speaker 3: But I did almost. And that's funny because now I'm suggesting it as this gift. I almost brought this for you as the gift, and then I thought, and then I was like, this might be too far. 01:23:48 Speaker 2: You made the right move. But that's I mean, I think Kay's cousin is going to love this. I mean, I think it's a really good idea. Good luck finding the five seconds of summer Coasters. 01:23:58 Speaker 4: I think that she's gonna have a hard time. 01:24:00 Speaker 2: But maybe those exist. I hope that yourself. 01:24:02 Speaker 4: Comes out in time December one, December eighth, I was told. 01:24:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe early December. This is it's, of course June twenty eighteen, as we record. 01:24:11 Speaker 3: Of course, yes, it's far before the pandemic we discussed earlier. 01:24:16 Speaker 4: Remember the time machine that I wanted, We actually have it. 01:24:20 Speaker 2: Anyone who's not listening to this podcast, No, Kay, go do that for your born cousin. I'm still baffled as to why the cousin's been kind of forced out of the Secret Santa until twenty years old. Unless it's some sort of ceremony or something. 01:24:33 Speaker 4: It's got to be a thing where maybe some of the gifts get a little adult. 01:24:37 Speaker 2: Right, Maybe there's a kid's Secret Sanna adult Secret sand. 01:24:40 Speaker 4: It's like it's like the kid's table of it, all. 01:24:42 Speaker 2: Right, that makes more sense to me. Yeah, I don't want to think about Kay's cousin at all. 01:24:46 Speaker 3: Well, can I say like Kay has made them sound incredibly boring at all? It's very sad to say to Kay, you will sound mean, petty. 01:24:56 Speaker 4: You sound petty me, And. 01:24:57 Speaker 3: You started this being like I ever thought I'd have to do this, But here I am dragging ass to write the email. 01:25:04 Speaker 2: And this person follows an erotic storytelling Instagram or whatever. 01:25:09 Speaker 3: Good for them, You're a freak, never emailing again. Go by the coaster. You've heard enough your cousin at the holidays. Okay, clear she's going through she's a forming mind. Let's going through something like kay k emails back in I make massive Trumper and yeah gotcha, Matt. 01:25:32 Speaker 2: We answered the question. I mean you answered. I barely lifted a finger this time. 01:25:37 Speaker 4: Well, what do you think? Do you think something different? 01:25:39 Speaker 2: I don't want to think about K or her cousin. Yeah, I mean I feel like that's a good gift. I mean the I don't know. I felt like there's a lot of online snooping and just trying to diminish. 01:25:52 Speaker 1: Which. 01:25:54 Speaker 3: Is because it's specific and it's not a candle or like a shirt. I mean, like the most boring thing to get someone as a candle. 01:26:02 Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, I'm kind of I do love it. I'm coming around on candles. I've said this on this podcast before. Candles and gift cards. Sure, it's fine. No gift cards I don't like. I never use them. 01:26:13 Speaker 4: What No, I just use them? 01:26:15 Speaker 2: No, because I always forget put it in your wallet and use it. 01:26:20 Speaker 3: There's already so many credit cards in there. I have too many mess. 01:26:28 Speaker 4: I mean, it's in your jacket, you can see. 01:26:31 Speaker 3: I want to go through my cards online ordering right now, what are we talking about? Yeah, but the coasters are like I think we have entered this new territory of like you can get personalized items. They're kind of traditionally very generic, but suddenly you've got five days of summer or whatever. Five seconds of my apologies to the second turns. 01:26:52 Speaker 4: You're trying to make a Zoe Deschanel five. 01:26:56 Speaker 2: Yes, I always got Zoe on the mind aways got. 01:27:01 Speaker 3: I was in a Katy Perry music video with her. You're kidding, no, Perry. 01:27:08 Speaker 2: This is the end of the Once you've mentioned Katie Perry twice on a podcast, especially. 01:27:13 Speaker 4: After Caruso endorsement, idiot, we find out she's k. 01:27:21 Speaker 3: It's all and she doesn't have eight hundred dollars to spare on as I have a question. It's all making sense now, it's all coming together. This is the end of the podcast. Matt, this was a good love. 01:27:32 Speaker 4: This was such a good This is. 01:27:33 Speaker 2: A perfect episode. 01:27:34 Speaker 4: It was really great. 01:27:35 Speaker 2: I don't know that I trust the moisturizer on my face. I don't know that. I think I don't like what sort of lab does Whitney have. 01:27:43 Speaker 3: Running Glow moisturizer provides anti aging hydration for all skin types. It contains all antioxidants. I said, I thought it said. It contains all oxidants and nutrients that help smooth and hydrate skin that becomes depleted due to age, you, the exposure, and or environmental damage. It can help visibly reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles by hydrating this skin, leaving it soft and smooth. 01:28:09 Speaker 4: No parabans, no cell. 01:28:11 Speaker 3: Fates, No, Well, this is a lot of consonants, flats or ext. 01:28:16 Speaker 4: Fox and it's cruelty free. Okay, but I don't know what else you want to have a moisturizer, grateful bitch. 01:28:24 Speaker 2: I just uh, I've been to the house. I don't know. It doesn't look like the place where. 01:28:28 Speaker 4: You go back to her house and put it on her doorstep. 01:28:30 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go throw it through the window. 01:28:32 Speaker 3: I gift for you. You throw it through the window, you find it. It's heavy as a brick. 01:28:38 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll look into it. 01:28:40 Speaker 3: We'll see Bridger through the first moisturizer at Whitney Ross House. 01:28:44 Speaker 4: It's like the next stone wall. 01:28:46 Speaker 2: That's how That's how I end up on the show. Maybe I'm gonna for the holidays and pose in front of her house. Everybody be prepared. 01:28:55 Speaker 4: That should be the picture you post. 01:28:56 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that's weeks and weeks away. It'll be a later post. It's gonna We're gonna have to. 01:29:03 Speaker 4: Wait. Wait are you going back to. 01:29:05 Speaker 2: During the holidays. So I'm gonna take this with me. You have to, of course, Whitney. I mean, maybe I draw her out of the house. 01:29:11 Speaker 4: You should get her on the podcast. She would do it. 01:29:13 Speaker 2: I feel like the Housewives don't do podcasts. 01:29:15 Speaker 4: They do a lot of podcasts they do. It's just that, Okay, so this is some tea. 01:29:19 Speaker 3: We wanted Whitney Rose on the podcast last year and reached out and we d m her and we were we were gonna do it, and then she said, actually, Bravo says we can't do any podcasts right now. And then three days later the Jenny When controversy. 01:29:32 Speaker 2: Care word that you could not trust those women to say no deal with a fragile. Very interesting, well, Whitney, Heather, I mean, Jen, it's not long for this world. I don't know what great to start this podcast with. You're receiving a call from the New York Correctional Facide's interesting that's really into booking Jen at some point yeah, yeah. 01:30:02 Speaker 4: Well you could go set up. 01:30:03 Speaker 3: She said, you bring your stuff to like the glass the plex, the glass window, and like she. 01:30:07 Speaker 2: Buys me something at the prison commissary. Oh, this could happen. 01:30:12 Speaker 4: Jen and Coach Shaw's conjugal visits. 01:30:16 Speaker 2: A coach shows out Coach he's out of I mean, he's got weeks left in that marriage. That poor well he probably knew I do not know. 01:30:26 Speaker 4: Well, where do you think somebody is coming from? 01:30:28 Speaker 3: I love when she was like, people think he's just like some little league coach, Like he makes real money. There's no real money college football coach for a Salt Lake mansion. 01:30:40 Speaker 2: Two episodes into the show, I was googling how much does an assistant football coach make? 01:30:44 Speaker 4: And it was like a salary. 01:30:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't like, Oh, they're living in this massive house certainly employing the entire family. 01:30:52 Speaker 1: No. 01:30:52 Speaker 3: And also like then I asked the question, like, what do you think we're idiots? And the truth is yes, she does. She thinks she she's made her into high a criminal organization on the belief that people are fucking idiots and won't like do their books. Well, guess what, mama, we did the books and you're going to the Slammer. 01:31:11 Speaker 2: How long do you think she'll be there? 01:31:13 Speaker 4: I bet she does like six seven years and gets out good behavior. 01:31:16 Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. But then at that point. 01:31:18 Speaker 3: She'll do Hollywood time. She'll do Felicity Hoffman time. 01:31:22 Speaker 2: Six years is more than Hollywood time to me. 01:31:24 Speaker 3: Well, what I mean is like in relation to the parts of the crime. So she's supposed to do twelve, she'll do half that. 01:31:30 Speaker 4: I think. 01:31:31 Speaker 2: Will a franchise still be around for her to return. 01:31:33 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 01:31:34 Speaker 2: Oh, I hate to hear it. I mean, we did just take a shutting down. 01:31:39 Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you think that Salt Lake is going to season ten? 01:31:42 Speaker 2: I hope so. For my own sake, I want to go on that journey with these women. Yeah, but they're dropping like flies there. 01:31:50 Speaker 4: You want to see a forty year old books marks. 01:31:52 Speaker 2: Of course he's going to enter. He will become one of the main cast members. 01:31:57 Speaker 4: Unfortunately he's getting hot. 01:31:59 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 01:32:00 Speaker 4: Well, we have different typess. 01:32:05 Speaker 2: Okay, well, interesting, you don't. We'll see what happens. 01:32:09 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 01:32:10 Speaker 2: Checking ten years from now. 01:32:11 Speaker 4: Sweatpants, he knows something about a man's ass. 01:32:16 Speaker 2: He's getting advice from mommy. 01:32:18 Speaker 3: For real, she is. They were at the Fire Island premiere. There a part of gay culture. 01:32:22 Speaker 4: And at one point she did say a lot of housewives think can they talk about how they're our eyes and stuff? But I'm actually here. Okay, I'm actually here. If you have to say it, no, But she was right, she was actually there. 01:32:35 Speaker 3: If you have to say events, just show us she was. 01:32:39 Speaker 4: She was telling me her friend just she was telling me. 01:32:43 Speaker 3: She was confided. She was confiding in me so that I could say it on this podcast with your saying, well, how many listeners fourteen fifteen? 01:32:48 Speaker 2: We have eleven listeners as of yesterday. And well, but Kay is leaving Katie p We've insulted Katie Perry. 01:32:56 Speaker 4: She's furious. 01:32:57 Speaker 3: Well, she's sensitive about her recruise vote. That's one race that's undecided as of today. But when you listen, I know it'll probably. 01:33:06 Speaker 2: Somebody else making a mess in this city. 01:33:08 Speaker 4: And it's such a gorgeous, gorgeous. 01:33:11 Speaker 2: Get it on track here. We don't need the mall owner. 01:33:14 Speaker 4: Though I do. 01:33:15 Speaker 2: I will say this, I do love the grove well, but the grove is a shopping mall. 01:33:20 Speaker 4: Mack, You're right, it is not. 01:33:21 Speaker 3: A say I forgot, I wasn't living in Disneyland. 01:33:24 Speaker 2: I've been on that trolley so many times have you gone on the track. There was a point when I rode. I was working at CBS Television City and I would go over every day during lunch and ride the trolley for a solid week, just for five is right before I left that job, So I thought why not? Yeah, And it was an experience. 01:33:40 Speaker 4: It totally was. I mean, like, look, it certainly goes from place to place. 01:33:43 Speaker 3: And also if you're interested in like a quick ride from the Wetzel's Pretzels to the theater. 01:33:48 Speaker 2: That's not a quick ride. You're waiting ten minutes for it to arrive and then you have to get on and go. At that point, I'm trying to I feel like Wetzels is kind of on it where you have to go through the full track again. 01:33:58 Speaker 4: You do? You do? 01:33:59 Speaker 2: You do? 01:33:59 Speaker 3: Because Wetzel's what that's like in front of the like the like the Macy's. 01:34:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're getting on, you might as well. You're you've got a backtrack there. 01:34:07 Speaker 4: You ever go to that Macy's and just do damage. 01:34:10 Speaker 2: Wait is there a Macy's there? Right, there's not a macy there's a Nordstrom. 01:34:14 Speaker 3: Nordstrom rack or as Leslion, I'm saying Nordstrom's. Of course, Nordstrom, Nordstrom's rack. 01:34:21 Speaker 4: We no Stroms. 01:34:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Nordstrom there. 01:34:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what id So it's. 01:34:27 Speaker 4: Not one of the other. 01:34:28 Speaker 2: I mean for you to be talking about how much you love the grove and to a point where you want the owner of it to run a city, and then you're talking about there being a Macy's there. It shows a deep political ignorance that, like now, I feel really bad for that group chat last night. They're like, he has no idea what he's talking about. I'm here, Matt, it's the podcast is over. Thank you though, what a wonderful time. 01:34:49 Speaker 3: This was great, And like I said, I so enjoyed my ride over here, and your home is beautiful, and I'm going to so enjoy my ride home because now I'm overcaffeinated too. 01:34:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got far too much coffee. 01:35:01 Speaker 4: I'm going one hundred down there down. 01:35:04 Speaker 2: You're going to die on your ya. This is the last, is it? No? 01:35:09 Speaker 3: I hate that because when you put that out there, it happens every. 01:35:11 Speaker 2: Time he becomes a superstiti superstious listener. The podcast is over, Get out of here, go do something with your day. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:35:56 Speaker 1: Lie? Did you hear thought? I made myself perfectly clear. When you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me