1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. I'm just about that action awesome. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: All right, here we go throwing in joy. We're saying 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: it's a cash We see most gamblers when they go 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: to gamble, they go to win. That's incredible. Big bank, 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: small banks. I like to make money. All right, this 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: is the ultimate kabine you want to pull and we 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: are coming away. Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: by Bett MGM. I'm your host, Chris Raybund of the 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: Action Network, and this episode is your a FC Betting 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Preview Part two, where we're gonna cover the a f 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: C East and the a f C South. Uh For 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: this episode, as all of them, we're gonna break go 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: team by team, break it down the outlooks of each one, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: discuss their win totals heavily, and here to help me 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: do it once again, the Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation stucky, stuck? 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: What excited to ramble more? These teams super hyped, talk 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: about every team good, bad, ugly. So let's dive in. 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like like you to focus on the ugly, 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: especially because a lot of times this time of year, 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, people were reading beat reports, were reading a 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of positive things, and you know, we get kind 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: of a skewed perception of all the teams and that 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of translates to the market where, uh, you know, 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: a lot of times there's a more optimistic projection, and 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: I think there's more money to be made kind of 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: fading teams and betting unders and things like that. So 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills ten and a half is the win 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: total at bet MGM plus one twenty five to the over, 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: so and that kind of reflects that this is a 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: tough division, at least with the top three they are 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: plus one sixty five at but MGM to win the 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: AFC East slightly better than the Jets and Miami. It 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: just builds I think a couple of things stuff that 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: stand out. Number one, how sustainable is this Joe Brady 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: offense where they got a lot more run heavy over 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, But now you lose 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: to Fon Diggs, you lose Gabe Davis. And number two, 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: the McDermott defense with safeties who really aren't the same 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: safeties that you know they've they've they've been accustomed to 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: having on the back end. It looks like Hamlin might 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: start Taylor rap rap, Yeah. 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Have them probably maybe starting Week one with Bishop and 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Edwards hurt. 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: That's scary, right, So yeah, talking to me about Buffalo 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: given given those two things, I think the questions on 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: offense and then the questions especially on the back end 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: at safety on the defense. 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Sean McDermott's defense, he's a Jim Johnson disciple, 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: good at figuring out ways to get pressure, more zone 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: based Cover three a lot on the back end. All 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: these defense I talk about, that's just like where they slant. 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Like I think the Bills ran Cover three thirty percent 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: of the time unless year, which is the number one. 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: He puts only thirty percent of the time. And I 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: think Cover three, which is around thirty six percent on 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: the rise, Cover two's Cover two man is dying Cover 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: one way down over the last five years. But whenever 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I say that, like it's just their biggest tendency. But 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: all these teams run a myriad of defensive looks, but 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: more zone heavy defense which really fits the corner as well. 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: The Bedford, who I think is Benford, who I think 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: is gonna get the second corner spot Elam. I think 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: he might still in the next season. He's an amaze 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: pure man corner and he just doesn't have the chops. 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: But Douglas great. I mean, he was a great addition 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: last year. He is a great zone defense corner and 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: Toront Johnson could do it all in the slot man 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: zone played against the run, so their corners are solid, 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: which is a good starting point. And your defensive ends 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: it's now the Epineza and Russo show because they lost 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: a lot. Because you gotta pay Allen. There's a lot 73 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: of cap casualties. So you know, you lose Diggs and Davis. 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: In the offensive end, you lose Morse at center. McGovern's 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: going to slide from guard to center, and Edwards is 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: going to slide into guard. So all five guys played 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: last year at least, so there's some continuity there. But 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: on the defensive side, you lose Trey White who's been 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: hurt lately, lose Floyd and then most importantly used Poyer 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: and Hyde. And with this defense that McDermott runs, the 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: safeties are so important, really big focus on limiting explosive plays. 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: They'll change their coverage looks a lot similar to Cincinnati. 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: I have the same sentiment I thought Cincinnati after losing 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: Bates and Bell. Their defense is going to fall off. 85 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: I think it's going to happen again. Here. You still 86 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: do have solid corners Oliver and Jones. Jones back from injury, 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: are solid inside. I like Evanessa and Russel, So there 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: are some pieces here, but the safeties to scare me, 89 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: and I think it could all fall apart. You also 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: lost Matt Milano against an injury. It's huge. He's just 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: so important from a communication standpoint. So in the safeties, 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: like they kind of got all the ducks in a 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: row for this defense from a communication standpoint, So I 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: think you could see a lot more busts and explosive 95 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: plays allowed, which I think is going to be problematic. 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe von Miller can give him something more, 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: but I'll have to see it before I believe it. 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, just Nickel, heavy d always just you know, 99 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: rush Ford just rush for a lot. But communication on 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: the back end is so key, and that's where I 101 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: think these losses are going to really really hurt. So 102 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: I think the defense is going to take a step back. 103 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 2: And by the way, it's one of the hardest schedules 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: in the NFL. I mean just a virtal schedule. I 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: mean take a look at some of these stretches. At Baltimore, 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: then Houston, O Baby Diggs, Alan, that'll be popcorn. Then 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: at the Jets. That's three game stretch against three of 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: the main contenders in the AFC. And now with this 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: one at Seattle, then at Miami, then at Indianapolis, then 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: home for KC in four weeks before. 111 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: The bubble, then the Niners coming out I just. 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Coming out of the by Then you're going across the 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: country taking on the Rams, then at Detroit Broo. At 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: least you got to break late in the year. But 115 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: you don't really play any like you also don't get 116 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: like the benefit of like playing cold weather team like 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: warm weather teams at home in Buffalo, Like you're playing 118 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: the Jets and the Patriots late in the year at home. 119 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: You know you're going to Miami when the humidity will 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: be high early on. So yeah, it's a tough schedule. 121 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: And this team, because of some of the casualties that 122 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: they've had, the cap casuals, they do lack depth at 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: certain positions which could become very problematic. You know, the 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: wide receiver room is shaky to me, Homan, Samuel Shakir, 125 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: You're gonna be relying a lot on Kincaid in the 126 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: run game. I would imagine you added Mvsy you. 127 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Might not make a team at this point. Yeah, he's 128 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: like on the roster bard. 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: It off, I think. So you do save Josh Allen's 130 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: top five top three depending on your quarterback. In the NFL, 131 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: offensive line should be solid as long as that transition 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: for mc governance centers smooth. You know, if Coleman can 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: just be a legit number one, they because they have 134 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: a lot of guys like Shakir and Samuel and even 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: Coleman kind of too. I want to put them all 136 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: like in the slot of times, it's like I'm just 137 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: curious how this is. And Kink too, you want to 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: put in the slot like I'm curious to see how 139 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: this all works out. From reformation standpoint. 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Colman seems like they're playing him outside at least. 141 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta play I mean, yeah, you have to, 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: like woman outside with uh Samuel and Samuel, there's no 143 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: other choice. But yeah, like I want to see who 144 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: that other outside receiver can be. You know, Shakira's a 145 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: lot of speed, has showed some promise, but got a 146 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: lot more on his plate. Now. So yes, schedule is 147 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: just so tough. I'm leaning under. I project like under ten, 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: there's not a ton of value. Now this has come 149 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: down a bit, but I think that there's a lot 150 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: of ways that this could go wrong. And I do 151 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: think that the defense is going to take a step 152 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: back because of those safety losses, because the Milana loss. 153 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: A lot of respect for McDermott, but yeah, I think 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: that the Bills last year too. My other future the 155 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: last couple of years, it's been there. It was there, 156 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: and I think that window might just be open, maybe 157 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: this much, but it's closing rapidly in Buffalo. So we'll 158 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: see how it all works out. But lean under on 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: the Bills. 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I just think this is a very 161 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: competitive division, especially if you know, like last year, Aaron 162 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't go down Week one or whatever that may be. 163 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, the Jets you're going to factor in a 164 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: lot more this year. You still have a fairly competitive 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: rest of the AFC, only a few truly terrible teams. 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's gonna be tough for Buffalo. 167 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a dogfight. And remember this 168 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: is a team that did go what were they five 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: and five at one point last year. I still have 170 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: questions about that receiver room, and and like you said, 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: the safety so under on Buffalo for me as well. 172 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: The Jets at ten and a half plus one twenty 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: five to the over plus one eighty to win the 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: AFC East. This is a team I think the schedule 175 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: is a little bit more forgiving, just because you know 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: they didn't end up doing as well last season. I 177 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: think the offensive line should be better for the Jets, 178 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: still a question mark with Aaron Rodgers obviously coming off 179 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: the Achilles injury at the other side of forty. But 180 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: at least you have a backup in Tyrod Taylor, who's 181 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: I think more respectable than any of the guys they 182 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: had last year, whether it was Simmy and or Boyle 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: or obviously Zach Wilson. So what's your outlook for the 184 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: New York Jets this year? 185 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: That's a good point with I mean, last year, you're 186 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: half the teams in the league needed to use a 187 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: backup quarterback, So you know you're basically fifty to fifty 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: that you're gonna need to use it. And if you 189 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: look in the history of the NFL, lowest interception rates 190 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: top five, Aaron Rodgers number one, Kobe Brissette number two, 191 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: he's another we'll talk about him in the Patriots, Tyrod 192 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: Taylor number three, Herbert four, Mahomes five Brady six. Mahomes 193 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: and Brady are side with Kaepernick. Ask Actually also, so 194 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: why why has Brissette and Taylor been so good as 195 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: backups for so long? One of the main reasons is 196 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: they come in and they don't make mistakes. You see 197 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: are far too often with backups. They come in, they 198 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: take care of the ball. They're professionals. So yeah, it 199 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: definitely raises the floor on the Jets. The you know 200 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: this this winter has come way up. The reason I'm 201 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: hesitant to best the Bill's under and a lot of 202 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: teams is division. I don't know what to do with 203 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: the Jets, so kind of muddies everything. Every team's divisi 204 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: and obviously because you play them each other twice each. 205 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: At Rogers last year, the defense was elite and the 206 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: defensive front has what seven former first round picks on 207 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: the defensive front, You're mainly gonna be playing with just 208 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: two linebackers, Williams and Mosley early, you know, four two 209 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: five cover, three quarters, heavy defense, just in a super 210 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: aggressive defensive line, which you can be when you have 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner on the back end, you have Reid at 212 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: one corner spot who's super underrated, and Carter in the 213 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: slot is also, I think, just an outstanding cornerback. Trio 214 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: safeties Matt, but when you're getting pressure and you have 215 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: lockdown corners, you don't need to do too much. But 216 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: Clark and Adams they're okay. I'm not in love with 217 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: the group, but the you know, the one area that 218 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: I am a bit worried about besides safety is and 219 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: if injury luck turns because they were super healthy on 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: defense last year, not on offense, defensive end. So you 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: lost Tough. You also lost Frankly Myers, but you bring 222 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: him at it. Everything's okay, right, Well, no, he is 223 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: requesting a trade. I don't know what's going on with him. 224 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: But I think that their defensive this defensive scheme relies 225 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: a lot on their defensive line, so defensive end could 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: take a step back and could impact that they get 227 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: and what Sala wants to do. So that's something that 228 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm watching. Tac McKinley's like flash of late, but man, 229 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: it'd be nice if you had a happy Reddick in there, 230 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: who could just you'd plug in for Huff and there'd 231 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: be no drop off the offense. They have the pieces. 232 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: Can they stay healthy? This is why I don't know 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: what to do with with the because the depth isn't there. 234 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: With the Jets. Rogers, you know, obviously got her in 235 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: the first play last year. He's forty, it's gonna be forty. 236 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: When's he gonna fall off? A couple of years ago 237 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 2: numbers weren't great, but you know there was some other circumstances. 238 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: He had a thumb blah blah blah. When's he gonna 239 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: fall off? Is it this year? Is it next? Like 240 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: it's one of the next couple of years, he's gonna 241 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: fall off hard. I don't know when that. When that 242 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: is the offensive line, Tyron Smith, you bring in major 243 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: injury questions there. You bring in Moses, you bring in 244 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: Simpson man from the Ravens. Moses could get and you know, 245 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: you bring in Mike Williams talk about injury issues again. 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Can he stay healthy? He's not getting any younger, but 247 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: you pair him with Garrett Wilson. It's like on paper, 248 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: this team if they all stay healthy, they're a super 249 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: Bowl contender if Rogers, he doesn't need to be an 250 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: MVP Galber. He just can't fall off a cliff, be 251 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: slightly above average and you know, be like the ten 252 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: to twelfth best quarterback in the league. And this team's 253 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: a super Bowl contender if the defense stays healthy. And 254 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: I think, like just they figure out the defensive end 255 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: and corners stay healthy importantly because like the safeties, that's 256 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: when the safeties become exposed. But I do think the 257 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: d probably takes a slight step back. They don't figure 258 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: out this defensive end. They can't be much better than 259 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: they were. If the offense is better, they won't need 260 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: to be as good and they won't be on the 261 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: field as much as they were last year. So yeah, 262 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: I mean, the offensive coordinator is still Nathaniel Hackett, which 263 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: I don't love, but it's just gonna be Rogers running 264 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 2: the show. Six of their first eleven games are in primetime. 265 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: They're tough just schedule wise. So yeah, the defense, regardless 266 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: that they take a slight set back to some one 267 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the NFL, just comes down to, 268 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: like in the offensive line, Mike Wins, can they stay 269 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: healthy and will Rogers stay healthy, which is there's correlation 270 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: with the offensive line staying healthy, and is where is 271 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Rogers on the spectrum of quarterbacks right now? I don't 272 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: know the answer to that. So it's very hard for 273 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: me to properly power rate the Jets and be confident 274 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: enough of my number to bet Overrunner. I have them 275 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: projected for nine and a half wins, so you know, 276 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: up to starting to get up to ten, I think 277 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: this was like eight and a half nine at one 278 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: point would lean under. But I just struggle with the 279 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: Jets because I don't know where Rogers really is gonna be. 280 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not very bullish on Rogers. I think he 281 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: I think the decline has already begun, you know, regardless 282 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: of that. I know he played with an injury a 283 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when his numbers fell off the 284 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: last year in Green Bay. But I do still like 285 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: the Jets, not necessarily over the win total as much. 286 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't mind them if you're betting 287 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: up some higher upside bets with the Jets, because again, 288 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a high ceiling team, but the 289 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: floor is also raised because of Tailor, So like there's 290 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: there's spots on the schedule where a lot of spots 291 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: actually where I look at I say, even if Rogers 292 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: is one of the worst quarterbacks in the league, or 293 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: they have to start Tyrod Taylor, is his defense good 294 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: enough to still win the game for him? Yes, absolutely, 295 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: because you know, they're playing the Titans and the Patriots twice, 296 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: They're playing the Broncos, They're playing They're playing the Vikings, 297 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: They're playing the Steelers, the Cardinals, Cole Seahawks. You know, 298 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of winnable games there for the Jets 299 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: and not a bunch of ones where you're like, oh, 300 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: there's no way unless Rogers is healthy, that they're gonna 301 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: win this game. So overall, I'm a lot more bullish 302 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: on the Jets that I've been in years past, especially 303 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: last year, and I think the height was too high. 304 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: But I do think that, you know, the window to 305 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: up up to ten and a half is starting to 306 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: starting to get up there. But I do think they 307 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: have a better path to hitting that win so than 308 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: a team like the Buffalo bill So if it's between 309 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Jets and Bills, for anyone out there, I would I 310 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: would rather roll with the Jets. But There's still some 311 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: fragility there obviously with with with the injury concerns, but 312 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: I do like that everything backup quarterback is key. 313 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Everything obvious talk about was variance, right, yes, Rogers, So 314 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: what do you want to do with that? Because if 315 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: he is good, and he is healthy, and the offense 316 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: is healthy, I mean the special teams screat last year too, 317 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: the defense is a super Bowl caliber caliber, then this 318 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: team could compete for a super Bowl. So yeah, with 319 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: that variance and uncertainty with Rogers, if you want to 320 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: bet the Jets, I agree, I think you go at 321 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: this point. You know now if the market has adjusted it, 322 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: you look high upside bets. 323 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast is presented by Bett MGM. Use 324 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: bonus code Action when signing up to get up to 325 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred hours back in bonus bets if your first 326 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: bet does not win. 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But ultimately they you know, doesn't seem 335 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: I have a cap ceiling in a sense that you 336 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: know when they start going to the playoffs that they 337 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: have to go on the road, which very possible in 338 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: the AFC just given you know the amount of teams 339 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: that compete anyway, you know that that probably caps there. 340 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: They're feeling a little bit and you know they did 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: lose height on the interior, so I think that interior 342 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: line on offense is also a bit of concern. But 343 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: what do you see from Miami head into this year. 344 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: They went eleven and six last year? What was the 345 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: storyline though? Beat up on the bad, get thumped by 346 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: the good. I think they went ten and zero against 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: non playoff teams, one in six against playoff teams, losing 348 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: by average of over two touchdowns per game. So you know, 349 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: their offense just is so explosive talked about from a 350 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: scheme perspective what McDaniel does to counteract some of these 351 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: more modern Bangio type defense. He's he's just ahead of 352 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: the curve. And their offense, which I had I think 353 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: second last year, will be a top three offense again, 354 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: is assuming everyone stays healthy. It doesn't the toua I 355 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: wouldn't have paid them, But he's basically just to facilitate 356 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: all the speed that surround him with a chain and 357 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: Mostard and Wattle and hill. You had a OBJ as well, 358 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: which doesn't hurt. But yeah, I worried a little bit 359 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: about the interior offensive line. You know, you lose Williams 360 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: and Hunt Brewer, I think is a step back at center. 361 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why the Dolphins struggled against 362 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: the good teams last year is, like number one, they 363 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: tend to have good coaches, so you're not just gonna 364 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, they can scheme against you. It's a little 365 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: bit harder. Just have wide open guys all over the 366 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: field and they tend to have better schemes defensively to 367 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: generate pressure. And if you can get pressure on Tua, 368 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: that's all you need to do. So if the interior 369 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: that offensive line doesn't work out and by the way, 370 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: like can Armstead stay healthy at left tackle? When he's healthy, 371 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: he's still absolutely elite, but he's a lot more fragile 372 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: now at this point in his career. So it's a 373 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: team I think with a pretty high floor because of 374 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: the offense. But you know, with that offense, assuming they 375 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: stay healthy, even if the offensive line takes a step back, 376 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: they're still going to put up points I think where 377 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: this team could potentially but they'll neither offense in order 378 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: to compete in the AFC. They're going to be their 379 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: offensive line to be a lot better because of Tua 380 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: and now he handles pressure. But they're still going to 381 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: win you know, eight nine, ten games regardless. But the 382 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: offensive line that's number one to reach the potential. And 383 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: then the defense. The defense was bad last year under Fangio. 384 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: It just didn't go well. So now the question becomes, 385 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: you know, you you lost Howard who cares, but you 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: lost Van Ginkel, you lost Baker, and the defense their 387 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: front seven just basically complete flip. You know, lost a 388 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: ton of guys, brought in a ton of guys chobb 389 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: In Phillips. How healthy are they when are they going 390 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: to come back? And how effective will they be after 391 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: devastating injuries. That is huge for this team as you 392 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: lost Van Ginkel Barrett retired, he brought him in as 393 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: a reinforcement and just the upside of this defense with 394 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver coming into the dewlex coordinator, some similarities with 395 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: talked about that in the last podcast with what Fangio does, 396 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: so there's some scheme similarities won't be completely foreign. He 397 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: does want to use he said in his press or. 398 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: He said, which is kind of a shot at Fangio. 399 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: He said, using Ramsey just to sit on the outside 400 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: or in the slot, it's like a fool's errand or 401 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: just a waste of him. So which makes me think 402 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: that he wants to use Ramsey as Kyle Hamilton, which 403 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: then makes me think, Okay, that means he's not going 404 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: to be on the outside. You're bringing Kendall Fuller, which 405 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: I think is actually an upgrade over Howard at this 406 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: point in his career. I'm not a big Kohu guy 407 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: some people are, so that means who's gonna be on 408 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: the outside. I don't think it could be co can't 409 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: be Nick need him. Ethan Bonner is a name to 410 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: keep an eye on who's rising up the depth chart. 411 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: It's a ton of speed. Stanford kid, he might start 412 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: on the outside. I'm so curious toe how this defensive 413 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: backfield shakes out. You obviously bringing Poyer take a good 414 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: veteran presence, Marcus may had some depth, and then you 415 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: have Javon Holmans, one of the best in the business. 416 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: So if they can figure out Laver can figure out 417 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: how this secondary comes together. Hallie wants to use Ramsey 418 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: as like this chess piece. So if that's the case, 419 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: who's going to be the outside corner that if he 420 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: can figure that out, and then you get a healthy 421 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Phillips and Chubb, then this defense has potential. The linebackers 422 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: are solid enough, you know, the interior defensive line is meh. 423 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: But then this defense has some potential with Weaver at 424 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: the helm, brought Agba back as well after I think 425 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: they let him go then brought him back. But so yeah, 426 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: Chubb in Phillips health, and how the secondary comes together 427 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: under Weaver and then this offensive line. I think those 428 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: are the two keys to unlocking the ceiling of this team, 429 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: but very high floor because of the offense. I project 430 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: them nine and a half wins right at the win total. 431 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: Schedule does get much tougher this year. I could see 432 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: the case for the upside, just like if the defense 433 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: there's pieces there, and if Chubb and Phillips are healthy 434 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: and the offensive line comes together. But I'm just not 435 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: a two of a leever. I don't think two can 436 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. It's good enough to get to 437 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 2: the playoffs, maybe win a game or two, but against 438 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: the elite defenses that are going to generate pressure and 439 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: going up against the elite quarterbacks in the AFC, I 440 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: don't see it enough at their current price to invest. 441 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: So love McDaniel, but I'm curious to how this d 442 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: comes together. But passed for me in the Dolphins. 443 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: Have to really do anything with them For me too, 444 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: because I am right on there the win total. I 445 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: think the Jets are better in a better position to 446 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: win the division because of the schedule. And then I 447 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: don't want to bet high upside bets on Miami because 448 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: unless they get the number one seed in home field 449 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs, I think they're going to run into 450 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: a spot that's just going to be too difficult to 451 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: overcome in terms of, you know, maybe having to go 452 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: on the road in the ads weather too. 453 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: They don't get it's hard to get the one seed 454 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: playing in that division. Yeah, we probably going to like Baltimore, 455 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: Kansas City, all these cold weather outdoor games. So yeah 456 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: pass for me. On the Dolphins Patriots. 457 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: Four and a half is the win total minus won 458 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: twenty five to the over. This team. I think this 459 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: team is going to be bad. You know, the one 460 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: thing they have is Drake May with the uncertainty there. 461 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: But unlike a team like the Texans where you had CJ. 462 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: Stroud and that uncertainty, this is a tough division. I 463 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: mean you're talking about the top three teams in this 464 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: division could each win double digit games. So I don't 465 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: really see it for the Patriots. This is a team 466 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: where where even though they have a very low win total, 467 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: still tempted to bet the under. I mean, their schedules 468 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: is brutal. San Francisco, Cincinnati obviously, the Bills, Jets, and 469 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins twice, Houston, he still played Jacksonville, Chicago, the Rams, 470 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: you know, teams on that kind of you know, probably 471 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: a little better average or better than average. The offensive 472 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: line could be the worst in the league. Receiver room 473 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: probably the worst in the league. The quarterback room could 474 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: could be the worst in the league. I mean, there's 475 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: just a lot of a lot of downsides for this team, 476 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and I don't see too much upside given the division 477 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: or in What do you think about the Pats. 478 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: I talked about it on our pre season general Overview 479 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: that the Pats were taking under money at like five 480 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: and a half, and I said, I might bet the 481 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: over if it coulds down to like four and a half. Four. 482 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll get to four, But now I'm 483 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: in line with the market because of what's transpired over 484 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: the past month. The defense had the potential to be 485 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: pretty damn good. I do think losing Belichick is hurt. 486 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: Like number one, he can't he couldn't draft anymore, he 487 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: couldn't coach special teams. His in game management, you know, 488 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: running the team had deteriorated. But he still could scheme 489 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: up a defense and make adjustments as well as any 490 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: coach in the NFL. So you have to account for that. 491 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: But the defense still had a lot of pieces and 492 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: they were gonna, you know, get two of the top 493 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: three corners back from last year. You know, you have Gonzalez, 494 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: who really flashed before he got hurt. The two Jones is. 495 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, you have Duggar and Pepper's at safety. That's 496 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: a really good secondary to build around. And then you 497 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: know a defensive lineman, a stud one of the most 498 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: underrated in the NFL, Barmore, and then you get Jude 499 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: On back. But guess what Judon got traded. Barmore probably 500 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: not gonna play this year dealing with blood cloths. Two 501 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: huge losses, just massive losses. So still a decent secondary, 502 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: and they got some guys that are positionless with some talent, 503 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: but just losing those two really hurts and really lowers 504 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: the ceiling of this defense. And you know, on the 505 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, you know, the off I 506 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: like Drake may. I think he's going to be a 507 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: good quarterback in the NFL. But I mean, look at 508 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: the situation you're putting me. Like you said, the offensive line, 509 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: I mean the offensive line as of now, I think 510 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Verdarian Lowe is starting a left tackle, city Sell at 511 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: left guard, Andrews at center, on Winno at right guard, 512 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: Oker Offer, who they got from the Steelers at right tackle. 513 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: That's horrendous because Cole Strange might miss the entire year 514 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: with a potell or tendon injury, which is he might 515 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: not ever come back from. Those are brutal. I think 516 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: that at girod Mao, the new Patriots coach, I think 517 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: that he never was able to recover and beat the 518 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: same player after he had that same injury. With that 519 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: offense line, which looks really bad on paper, you would say, Okay, 520 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: it was bad last year with a lot of those 521 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: same guys, but at least they're getting better in camp. Well, 522 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: the last few days they've just been trying. They're like, 523 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: we got to try a bunch of different combos. I mean, 524 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: Jordan Wallace, Michael Jordan Willas and not the good Michael 525 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: Jordan's Robinson. They're all getting first team reps in the past 526 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: few days. They're moving on when to right tackle. It's 527 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: a mess. Born mccover mcmentry. Still not practicing wide receivers, 528 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: very underwhelming. Javon Baker has been bad lately in camp. 529 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, can't stay and bounds on the route. Yeah. 530 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's uh. And by the way, this is 531 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: also applies to the Dolphins Jet special things good Las 532 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: year Dolphins special things the last couple of years. Clean 533 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: you gotta figure out clean that out McDaniel and the 534 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: Patriots special teams are a mess. They're kicking competition. It's 535 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: a mess. Belichick really lost his script there. They were 536 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to buy the Patriots because I'm like, the 537 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: defense gonna be decent. I like Drake May Brissette is 538 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: a good backup. We'll keep you in games. This schedule 539 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: is just fish. They could be dogged in every game. 540 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: The easiest games are like Seattle at home, at Tennessee, 541 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: Indy at home, and at Arizona and the rest of 542 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: the schedules. You know, you don't really feel kind of 543 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: being like, I thinkuld win that game. So I just 544 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: can't get there. But the metrics, in my gut says 545 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: they do bounce back, probably get lucky in a couple 546 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 2: of games, And I like, May, just how much can 547 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: you do with that offensive line and wide receiver. But 548 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: less year, they were unlucky across the board and everything. 549 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 2: They were bad but fumbles, field goals, injuries, penalties, you 550 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: name it. They were one of the most unluckiest teams 551 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: out there. Are still a bad team, but a lot 552 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: of that stuff usually bounces back, So I would imagine 553 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: Brissette probably starts They're like one in four, zero and five, 554 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: then you could see may so I think Brissett's a good, 555 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: good guy to have there. But just the schedules so tough. 556 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: The two star defenders, losing them in the offensive line 557 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: and wide receiver room. It's just in this division it's 558 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: hard to bet the over and now after adjustment some 559 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: pretty close to market. 560 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, it's either under nothing for me on 561 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: a Patriot, I think this. If you're looking for more upside, 562 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: bet this team to be the worst team in the league, 563 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe even the last team to get a win. 564 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: But I want to fade this team somehow, and I 565 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: just think disaster waiting to happen, or probably I mean 566 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: disaster last year. I think that disasters continues. Let's go 567 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: to the the AFC South. The Texans are the top 568 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: team in the division by odds with the win total 569 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: of nine and a half at bet MGM minus one 570 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: forty five to the over even money to win the division. Now, 571 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Houston is, you know, a very high upside team because 572 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: of Stroud, they had Daniel Hunter, they got Digs. So 573 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: the issue with Houston, I think is just the schedule 574 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot harder. You know, last year 575 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: they kind of took advantage of playing an easier schedule. 576 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: But you know, with see Day Stroud, I think anything 577 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: is possible. So Houston's a little tough just because I 578 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: want to be super bullish on them. And win total 579 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: is kind of low hanging through to at only nine 580 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: and a half, but there's still going to be a 581 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: gauntlet of a schedule and and there are games that 582 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, even with with this explosive offense, I can 583 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: see this team losing. So where are you on on 584 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: the Texans? 585 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like how I usually handicap and look 586 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: at things up. This is a team that I would 587 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: want to fade right there. With the win total last 588 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 2: year was what six six and a half and they 589 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: went ten and seven with an easy schedule. But I 590 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: don't want to fade them. Yeah, I don't want to 591 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: fade c J. Stroud. I want to buy into c J. 592 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: Stroud like markets might not be adjusting enough to have 593 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: good c J. Stroud is. Yeah, and they were the 594 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: most injured team on offense last year and also one 595 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: of the five most injured teams on defense, so I 596 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: know they were plus ten and turn it was an 597 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: easy schedule, But I mean the offensive line was damaged 598 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: all year, right from the Week one when they played 599 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore with a bunch of backups, no continuity, dealt with 600 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: injuries all year. You know, I want to see how 601 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: the offensive line chase out. Can they stay healthy? If 602 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: they just stay healthy, they're gonna be better than they 603 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: were last year. But can they can they find a 604 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: run game? You know, they bring in mixing, but they 605 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: just haven't been They haven't had a run game to 606 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: compliment what Stroud can do. Pretty good pass protection this group, 607 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: but they just don't really get that big of a pushman. 608 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: Tunsil is like he's kind of the leader of that. 609 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: He's great in past protection, but not the best run 610 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 2: blocking left tackle. So they were mentioning like switching up 611 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: like tight Titus Howard going to guard. I wouldn't do that. 612 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: Just keep Shaq Mason Kenny Green so as at center, 613 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: kee Titus Howard right tackle. You also brought in Blake 614 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: Fisher's could be a decent like depth piece if needed. 615 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, this team is loaded at wide receiver. Look 616 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: what Straub was doing last year after the injuries like 617 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: Tank Dell went down. Now you get Tank Dell back, 618 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: you add Stefan Diggs, Nicocollins. I mean, Noah Brown was 619 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: bawling last year that they're they're just loaded at wide receiver. 620 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: The defense. I mean, I just love what this team 621 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: is doing. They said, we got Stroud, rookie deal, let's 622 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: go for it. It's why they brought in Diggs, why 623 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: they went out. And I mean, yes, you lose rankings, 624 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: you lose Grenard Cashman, who cares. He had to have 625 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: a really good year last year. But they're linebackers on paper. 626 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: You bring an Alice here from Tennessee's good player. Linebackers 627 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: in general aren't great. They usually play with two linebackers. 628 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: But about a four two five four man rush cover 629 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: three quarters team under Digmico Ryans he you know, played 630 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: Cashman a resurgent year under Demiko Rights. He knows how 631 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: to coach linebackers. He knows how to get them back 632 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: in those hook zones of their cover three. So I'm 633 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: not I'm not worried about the Texans linebackers. Then the 634 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: defensive line. You know you have Will Anderson there. I 635 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: like the additions Edwards is flashing of late Batokasi defensive tackle. 636 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: I still have some questions, but you know, you bring 637 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: in Daniel Hunter, Denico Austry suspended, Derek Barnett still there, 638 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: Jerry Hughes who can still do some things in some 639 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: packages defense, so they're gonna be able to get pressure. 640 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: And then really this comes down to I think the 641 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 2: secondary it really shakes out. Derek Stingley, it's gonna be good. 642 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great corner in this league. I'm 643 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: confident in saying that. So the question is how does 644 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: the rest of the secondary stan out? The way that 645 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: I'm hearing and seeing is And I actually like this 646 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: because I love Jalen Petrie. I always have a love 647 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: them coming out of college at Baylor. At Baylor, he 648 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: played like their joker nickel position, who's like a slot safety. 649 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm I think he's gonna be their their starting nickel 650 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: and it's where we've seen him some slot some snaps 651 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: there at practice and in the preseason. Bryan's has talked about, 652 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: you know, his versatility there. So I think the best 653 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: way that this all works out is but I don't know. 654 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: Last of her kind of profiles is more of a 655 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: of a slot too. But if it's I think it's 656 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: gonna be to start maybe Lasser on the outside, Teacher 657 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: in the slot, Bullock at strong safety, and then Jimmy 658 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: Ward at free safety. The good news is is that 659 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: you know you have you brought in Okuda and Henderson, 660 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: former first round draft picks who have disappointed and in 661 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: the careers one year deals. Can one of them step up? 662 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pieces to work with. Can 663 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: they find the right once as their past d last 664 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: year was bound and you could throw in them trustingly. 665 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: I like the idea of Peacher in the slot, but 666 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: what does that do for the rest for the safety 667 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: other safety position for CB two, that's gonna that's gonna 668 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: be the difference between this team, you know, achieving their 669 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: full ceiling and not so super curious That's what I'm 670 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: watching very closely with the Texans. But this team is 671 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: is loaded, and I want to buy in on them 672 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: just on the upside. I just want a piece of it. 673 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's going to be a 674 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: future not the division but super upside, super Bowl or 675 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: like Stroud MVP. I think Stroud is like Stroud's also 676 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: because it's a narrative award kind of two and Stroud's 677 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: like out in the media a ton like so like 678 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: I think that helps his case. Very personal guy, he's 679 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: like he does all those he does, like a podcast 680 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: and really sharp and he's always out there. I think 681 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: that helps him really likable. So yeah, and the secondary 682 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: is still my main question. And they play in a 683 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: division where like the Colts and the Jags, major questions 684 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: the secondary there. And they do have a harder schedule. 685 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: What does that mean though, more competitive games, potential for 686 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: more numbers, winning team. So yeah, I think Stroud could 687 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: put up huge numbers this year. I project them just 688 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: under ten wins. So yeah, No, I don't see any 689 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: value in their division futures or win total. But I 690 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: just want to piece the upside of Stroud before. I 691 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: just think he's that guy and we might look back 692 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: and say fifteen to one that was done. They should 693 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: have been ten to one, yeah, you know Week seven. 694 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like them too, And the more I look 695 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: at it, I don't even mind their win total over 696 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: in their division because at the same time, like the 697 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: true gaunt, which is going to come once you get 698 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, right, So yes, you want to bet 699 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: on their upside. But I mean if they're as good 700 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: as we if we want to bet on their upside. 701 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're clearly the best team in the 702 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: division and they're so you know, it's a little overpriced, 703 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: but I still would rather do it than not, because 704 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, nine and a half wins, they could blow 705 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: past that and it shouldn't be close in the division 706 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: if they're as good as we think they are. So 707 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't have as much of a problem with I agree. 708 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: I think you want to invest in this texta team, 709 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: and I do like that Stroud MVP for call for 710 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: the same reasons. I looked at their schedule and they're 711 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: going to be in a ton of high scoring games, 712 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: So like that. The Jaguars, you know, one of those 713 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: teams that are kind of middle of the pack here. 714 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: Eight and a half is the win total minus one 715 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: fifteen to the over at bet MGM plus two seventy 716 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: five to win the South. I have questions about their cornerbacks, 717 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: and I have questions about their offensive line. I have 718 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: questions about the path rush. What about you. 719 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting tea, But for what it's worth, the two 720 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: MVP bets that I like this year, both in this 721 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: division more of a longer shot would be Trevor. Lawrence 722 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 2: could be in a bunch of shootouts. He has the pedigree. 723 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if he puts it all together. 724 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: He wasn't lucky last the last few years, like he especially, 725 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: I think he had the most rocks over the last years, 726 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: and last year it was just he played better than 727 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: his numbers. But see, I see what you're saying. But 728 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: he might just be like a little above average. He 729 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: might just not be that generational talent that we thought 730 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: he was going to be when he was selected. 731 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: But that's why it's just like a flyer, all right. 732 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I got the MVP odds up here at BETMGM. 733 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: He's thirty to one and Shrouds down to ten to one. 734 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: I think this might be a fifteen to one out there. 735 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: Maybe that's not out there anymore. But like Lamar, no 736 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: matter what he does this year, I don't think it's 737 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: just gonna be hard from the winning again, I would 738 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: cross him right off. But yeah, Lawrence forty to one. 739 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: I liked it a little bit more, but he would 740 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 2: be my longer shot and Stroud would be the bigger position. 741 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: But Jaguars this year, interestingly enough, they made a defensive coordinator. 742 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: Change Caldwell out comes from he was from the Bowls 743 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: Tree and they bring in Ryan Nielsen. But their defense 744 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: was actually like decent last year metrically at least, you know, 745 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: above average adjusted for schedule. They are going to be 746 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: moving to a four to three heavy nickels like a 747 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: that Ryan Nielsen. He comes from Atlanta. He's a Dennis 748 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: Allen Tree guy, so cover. He wants to uncover one 749 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: press and although you know two E shell. That's like 750 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: the Dennis Allen Saints. They play a ton of man 751 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: and press, but they also play two high safeties, play 752 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 2: a lot of quarters too. So I'm curious to see 753 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 2: how this defense plays out because he wants to play 754 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 2: a ton of man and the d was awful in 755 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: man last year, and they were good in zone. You know, 756 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: you signed Tyson Campbell to a big contract. He was 757 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 2: horrendous in man last year, but he was hurt and 758 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 2: he was pretty good at man a couple of years ago. 759 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: Ronald Darby has been ken plain man. You bring him 760 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: in at the second corner spot, but he's thirty. We 761 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 2: all know what that means for a heavy man corner 762 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: and Darby it's made of glass. So will this actually work? 763 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean there's some pieces to like. 764 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: I think Robertson Harris better suited for a four to three. Also, 765 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 2: you have some good pass rushers to work with in 766 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: a four to three. I just don't know if this 767 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: scheme is going to work with this defense. The offensive 768 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: line should be better though. That's that's that's something that 769 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: will definitely help Trevor Lawrence. I mean, you bring in 770 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 2: Morse at center, that's an upgrade. You have a healthy 771 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 2: cam Robinson Harrison right tackle. Year two. Can they finally 772 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: learn how to run block and get some similar to 773 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: a running game to help Lawrence? Yeah, there's some piece 774 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: like I really like the linebackers. O Lukun's probably the 775 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: well underrat to play in the NFL. Lloyd Lloyd is 776 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: a decent linebacker. Two struggles and coverage a bit, but 777 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: it's all gonna come out of the secondary, which has 778 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 2: been a problem for Jacksonville for a couple of years. 779 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 2: They were better in zone last year Darby and Campbell. 780 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: Can they run this man heavy d if they can that. 781 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: There's some pieces up front that Nielsen has to work with, 782 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: but definitely uncertainty They only have six home games because 783 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 2: they're playing in the UK twice against the Bears and 784 00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: New England. Overall, I have the Jags projected for a 785 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: point six eight point six, eight point seven wins, something 786 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: the slightest of leans to the over have a league 787 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: average schedule. If I had to take a position on 788 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: the Jags, be some upside with Lawrence or maybe maybe 789 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. You can get a good plus 790 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 2: money record, but it's a tough team to crack. The Jacks. 791 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: So kisky your thoughts? 792 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, they're they're an eight and a half 793 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: win team, like they're an average team. Uh. I guess 794 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: there's an outside shot for them to win the division 795 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: if if you know, Stroud goes down earlier or something 796 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: like that, But I Houston still has pretty good backups 797 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: and uh, and I don't want to fade Houston. So 798 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: that's why I'm not really in bullish on anything Jacksonville wise. 799 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I think the scheme defensively 800 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: could take some time, and offensively, yes, Lawrence was unlucky, 801 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: but still could be just a very average kind of team. 802 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't love the upside for this team, 803 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: and I don't want to, you know, really bet on 804 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: them floor wise because I like the Textans so much 805 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: in this division. I think the Colts are dangerous too, 806 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, nothing for me on Jacksonville. But 807 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is eight and a half with their win total 808 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: minus one oh five plus three twenty five to win 809 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: the division. This is a team that especially early enough 810 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: because I definitely wanted to fade. I still have a 811 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: lot of questions about their cornerback group and you know, 812 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: richardson Kenny stay healthy. Do like the offensive line though, 813 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: I think the receiving core could be shaping up quite 814 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: well as well. If downs can you know, make it 815 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: back from injuries. So Indianapolis don't really know what to 816 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: do with them either. They're kind of in this purgatory. 817 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: But I just like Houston, so I'm not really doing 818 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: anything hot like bullish on the Coats. But where are you? 819 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: One of my favorite runners in the NFC, along with 820 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: the Chargers Project seven eight. Not a fan of this team. 821 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: I mean, why, I don't know what Chris Bowart's smart, God, 822 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: but I don't know what he's doing. Why didn't they 823 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: get Sneed or Simmons or Digs like I don't know 824 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: what he's doing. Is his salary tied to caps face? 825 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, but they had caps face to work 826 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: with and they didn't address the secondary. So and he's 827 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: had a lot of quotes about it, like, yeah they 828 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: were young last year. You you guys said the offensive 829 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: line was bad. But look, Gus, and I'm not a 830 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley guy, he's still running. I talked about this 831 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: last podcast, the Cover three Carol Sant fran Pten, the 832 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: Seahawks tree, Ryan's he's adjusted, Salah He's adjusted three. Morse suggested, 833 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn is adjusted. You know asn't is your boy, 834 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley, He's still running his four two five four 835 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: man front Cover three. Every once in a while. It 836 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: is just an a opoletz that's basically it. But usually 837 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: really static defense. What made that Seahawks defense really good, 838 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: that cover three, you know they would play they all 839 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: coverage is if you had to ask a lot from 840 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: your secondary, you had guys like Earl Thomas on the 841 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: back end cleaning everything up, Richard Sherman, h Cam Chancer, 842 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: the lead Jo Boom. You need to run this scheme, 843 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: you need excellent defensive backs. They don't have it. I 844 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: mean the cornerbacks Juju Brents, Jalen Jones or Dallas Flowers 845 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: off of an injury. Ugh, and then you know Franklin 846 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: Speed at linebacker, Matt they're okay, they'll do their job, 847 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: but nothing special. Heavy CON's out for the year. That hurts. 848 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: I do love Latto, but he's a rookie. The defensive 849 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: tackle room is strong with Buckner and Stewart, and I 850 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: actually like Davis in the fit for this defense. They 851 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 2: got him from Miami. But the secondary is just the corners, 852 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 2: and I mean I get that they have anymore as 853 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: an outstanding slot great tackler does it all for them. 854 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: But even at safety, like Julian Blackman, I had a 855 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 2: better year last year playing more in the box. Still 856 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 2: not someone you're just like, Wow, he's really good. Nick 857 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: Cross likely starting at free safety, Matt, but maybe it's 858 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: Tom was not good. Now they're talking about Harrison playing 859 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: free safety. That won't work. No, and so now they're 860 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 2: saying maybe black Men will move back to free safety. No, 861 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: he's better in the box. And then you're gonna have 862 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 2: this is the mess. No one's won the free safety 863 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: job yet. This secondary is bad. And last year they 864 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 2: were twenty seventh in pressure rate, so it's not like 865 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: they were getting a ton of pressure. I don't like 866 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: the static defense. They don't have the playmakers and the 867 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: secondary to run it, and it's already outdated. Teams not 868 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: to beat it, and then an offense, you know, if 869 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 2: you're a Richardson guy, I just don't. I don't think 870 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 2: the defense is the chops. But maybe you bet him 871 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: for MVP, but I don't think he has the accuracy 872 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: or the ability to process defenses yet. So his injury 873 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: last year heard, I didn't get a ton of basically 874 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: a rookie again, a little more expense in a rookie, 875 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: but you get my drift and the weapons, like are 876 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: they really that great? Especially Josh Dowen's high ankle sprain 877 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 2: that hurts. So the running game will be good. Shane Steichen, 878 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 2: I like, will put him in good positions to make plays, 879 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: and his legs give him a high upside to why 880 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: fantasy players love him. He's gonna be running all over, 881 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: but he has a rocket arm. But like they're just 882 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: teams are gonna stack the box against this team. Take 883 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: away the run, take away Pittman and dare Richard the 884 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 2: beenap with his arm and I just don't think he 885 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 2: can consistently enough. I will say everything that I've heard 886 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 2: from Stiking is just fast, fast, fast, And they say 887 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: richards And is at his best, And he showed this 888 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 2: in the preseason and camp when he's just not thinking 889 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: and he's just processing one read is quick and then 890 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: he's getting on the ball no huddle. That's when he's 891 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 2: like at his most comfortable. Well, this fast all offense 892 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: and this questionable defense. 893 00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, great fantasy first. 894 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking for some overs. Oh, Indianapolis Indianapolis 895 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: Houston Week one. I hate that in early divisional game overs, 896 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: but that one jumps out to me. But I like 897 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 2: the under the Colts. I project some point eight. Not 898 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 2: a fan of this defense. Special teams also very questionable, 899 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: and I don't think Richardson is quite ready yet. So yeah, 900 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm going under in the Colts. 901 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: That was like my favorite under early in the offseason. 902 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: Then I was like, all right, you know what, I'm 903 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: always feel like I'm always biased against the coach too hard, 904 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: so kind of eased up a little bit. But now 905 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: you kind of tucked me right back into it because 906 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: you make a lot of good points. You know, the 907 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: offense is still still green, and that's kind of the 908 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: strength of the team at this point. 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I think the offense, you know, they gave 925 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: Levis some pieces, you know, to throw to the run. 926 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: Game should be decent or at least the running backs 927 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: are decent with spears and powered, but the offensive line 928 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: is still a question, could still be bad. And the defense, 929 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: I'm curious to what you think about the defense. You know, 930 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: I think it has a chance to be better than 931 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: last year. But you know, your Digs and Adams on 932 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: the back end. You know, Woozy a is uh, you know, 933 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: he's getting up there in age a little bit. So, 934 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Steve was a nice addition. He still got Stimmons, 935 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: who I love the interior, But you know, I don't 936 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: know what is this team kind of six and a half? 937 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,720 Speaker 1: Is that? You know, where are you on that? Because 938 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like it's this team could be a 939 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: little underrated. But I worry with the offensive line, the 940 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: fact that Levis I don't think, you know, even with 941 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: a with good pass catchers, I think he still needs 942 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: that offensive line because I don't think he's you know, 943 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: a plus quarterback in this league. And then the defense 944 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: could go, you know, any which way. So I don't 945 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: really know what to do with Tennessee. What are you thinking? 946 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting team, you know you brought in There were 947 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: seven and eighteen over the last twenty five games. Bringing 948 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 2: Calahan definitely an upgrade. I mean he didn't call plays 949 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 2: in Sincy, but definitely an upgrade of what they had 950 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: last year. That offensive coordinator there gonna be more pass 951 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 2: heavy this year, less predictable. And you know, I still 952 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: struggle to properly gauged Levis because I don't trust his 953 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: accuracy yet didn't coming into the league. But he actually 954 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: like showed me some things last year when you look 955 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 2: at the situation he was put in right, Like we 956 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 2: were just talking about the situation Drake mayil be put in. 957 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: It will be understandable if he just struggles immensely. But 958 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: Levis had a disastrous offensive line, disastrous the weapons were 959 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: Hopkins and who else and bad play calling, and he 960 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: actually showed some things, so you know now he will 961 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: should have a better offensive line. Bring in Callahan brings 962 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: in his dad, one of the best offensive line coaches 963 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 2: in the NFL. You add Cushion Barry at center, upgrade, 964 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: you draft J. C. Latham still has some issues with 965 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 2: his hands, but their left tackles last year allowed a 966 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 2: sixteen percent pressure rate and it is astounding. Can't be 967 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 2: any worse. Can Petite for a make a leap the 968 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: right tackle. Callian will get them the best out of 969 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 2: this group. They won't be worse than last year. They 970 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 2: upgraded a couple positions. You add Calvin Ridley and Tyler Board. 971 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: I mean Tyler Board's washed but knows the offense. It's like, 972 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: why is Calvin Ridley not better? I don't understand. 973 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he could. I don't think 974 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: he's been used as as great as he should be, 975 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: like in the right ways that some spots like especially. 976 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: Jack, because you got to you might. 977 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think so. I think Trayland Burke's actually 978 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: under this under Callahan could take a step forward. I'm 979 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: not saying he'll be amazing, but you know he is 980 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: put him on the outside, yeah yeah, And or kind 981 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: of flipped off it because I think I think the 982 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: issue with Ridley was he was playing too much X 983 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: last year. I think you know he can't. He's not 984 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: going to beat press covered. He's not fast enough to 985 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: just outrun guys either. So the middle of the field, yeah, 986 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: more more you can use him at Z I think, 987 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: and in the spot I would say the better for Ridley. 988 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: So I think he'll be probably more intelligently used in 989 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: last year. But he's still you know, he to like 990 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot. There's things mentally I think that 991 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: we don't necessarily know about. And he's getting up there 992 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: in age now, he's not as young and as he 993 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: once was, and his best years have come you know, 994 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: indoors with the Falcons. So yeah, probably just probably just 995 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: a little over age he started his career, That's that's all. 996 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: But still an upgrade over what they had last year 997 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: all things considered. 998 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think the offense will be 999 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: better for Lewis mister mayonnaise cologne. I don't know if 1000 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 2: anyone right, Yeah, I heard that. So the offense Offen's 1001 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: lunchuld be better. The weapons are better, I don't mind. 1002 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 2: I could do was dark Henry, but Poward and Spears. 1003 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 2: I've been in spears guy since Tulane. You're okay there. 1004 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: You can throw to them too. So I think the 1005 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: offense will be better than people think. The defense. You 1006 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 2: lose a here, you lose Autry, which does hurt, but 1007 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 2: you added Snead and a Woozia so and their defensive 1008 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: backfield that year was a disaster. Could not stup Oh 1009 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 2: nosle in the past game. So you had Steed and 1010 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 2: a Woozier. Can they stay healthy that and are they 1011 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: you know they're because they're Olizia wasn't the same player 1012 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 2: last year coming off an injury. Sneaed has like this 1013 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: knee thing never seems to impact him. But that's why 1014 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: some teams weren't interested in them. Apparently that like keeps 1015 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 2: them out of practices and camp last year. But if 1016 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: they can stay healthy and they, you know, woozy A 1017 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 2: regains his form, then all of a sudden, this defense 1018 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:27,479 Speaker 2: has a much higher floor and ceiling because and there's 1019 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 2: just no depth of corners, so like they need them 1020 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: to hit. Because Dinnar Wilson comes in from the Ravens, 1021 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: another Ravens Tree coordinator, you're gonna have them in the Chargers, Titans, Dolphins, 1022 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: and Ravens obviously now in Seahawks, but he Donar Wilson 1023 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 2: is not. I don't consider him pure Ravens Tree because 1024 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: he also worked under Greg Williams, Todd Bowles, Jonathan Gannon, 1025 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 2: and McDonald in Baltimore. And I think based on everything 1026 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: that I heard, he's he's gonna be more of a 1027 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: Bowls Williams d very aggressive, more way more blitzing. So 1028 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to be just like 1029 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 2: a Raven's translated defense, much more aggressive. So Stead and 1030 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 2: Woozier having them man out on the outside and having 1031 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 2: them healthy, I think is paramount and could raise the 1032 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 2: production of this defense. Linebacker very suspect with Murray and Gibbons. 1033 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: Cedric Gray a draft and maybe he can flash there. 1034 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: You still have Simmons on the defensive line, Lander and 1035 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 2: Key on the outside or pieces to work with Key 1036 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 2: as a suspension revoked, which was good. You added Sebastian 1037 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 2: Day and you drafted Sweat, who I think really fits 1038 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 2: what Weaver wants to do and excuse me, what Wilson 1039 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: wants to do on defense. So yeah, I like some 1040 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 2: of the pieces here. Then that's safety. Like you just 1041 00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: have a ton of pieces, Like I don't know how 1042 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: they're all going to come together. Like, yeah, McCreery is 1043 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 2: pretty good in the slot, but you bring in Tamal 1044 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: Adams who is kind of like a blitzing linebacker. Maybe 1045 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 2: you use him there. Hooker is a best that is 1046 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 2: a box safety. Do you put digs deep? I'm not 1047 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 2: really sure how it all works out, but there's definitely 1048 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 2: a lot of pieces there to at least work with 1049 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 2: you Molden who can't really cover, but he's still there 1050 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 2: as well. So you brought in a lot of vets 1051 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 2: and so you'll you'll get to see. I think it's 1052 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 2: smart because you'll get see if Levis is the guy, right, 1053 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: you'll you have a better offensive line. You brought in 1054 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 2: some vets to throw, You brought in some reinforcements on 1055 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: the defense, and the offensive line has been a disaster. 1056 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: I think it'll be better. It's been bottom three the 1057 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 2: last two years in pass protection, bottom three yards before 1058 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 2: contact the last two years as well. They can run, block, 1059 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: couldn't pass back, can't be any worse. So while they 1060 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: brought in a lot of vets, and while I do 1061 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 2: think the season will come down to this, levis the guy, 1062 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: I think the kind of the underlying X factor of 1063 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 2: the wild card. Can the rookies hit. So if the 1064 00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 2: rookies hit Latham at left tackle, Bray at linebacker, really 1065 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 2: use someone emerged there and then sweat at nose, which 1066 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 2: is just I think a really important piece to what 1067 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 2: Wilson I think wants to do. Based on the bowls. 1068 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: Williams defensive scheme is a tough schedule, but I have 1069 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 2: them top five schedule, which sucks because they went six 1070 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: and eleven last year. It just comes down to six. 1071 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go over. I project six point nine. 1072 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 2: I think this ross was better than the market thinks. 1073 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 2: I know a lot of it's going to come down eleves, 1074 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 2: but I like the Hires and yeah, I think this 1075 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 2: team is a little better than people think. One question 1076 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: for before we go to the NFCI with up AFC playoffs, 1077 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: we're saying, let's just hypothetical Chiefs only team from that division. Yes, Oka, 1078 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 2: AFC North, I only say two. 1079 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: This year, Bengals, Ravens. 1080 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, AFC South. Let's put the Texans in AFC East. 1081 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to put the Bills and Jets in? 1082 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: Definitely the Jets, Bills, Bill, Bill, Dolphins are battling. For me, 1083 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: I think the Jets. 1084 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So for seven spots we have Chiefs, Texans, Jets, Ravens, Bengals. 1085 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 2: Two more you have the Bills Dolphins. The obvious choices. 1086 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 2: Both are chalk to get to the playoffs, Browns, Steelers. 1087 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,919 Speaker 2: But if any of them fall off, you know, could 1088 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: it be a second team from the NFC South. A 1089 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 2: lot of people aren't thinking that it could. I don't 1090 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 2: know Titans to make the division, I mean to make 1091 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Maybe I think there is some upside with 1092 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: this team. 1093 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think they're more underrated than the Jags 1094 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: in the Colts, like the market is underrating them as 1095 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: that you know in the South outside of the Texans. 1096 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah and favorite just the recap favorite win total Colts 1097 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 2: under and uh by the upside on Stroud. 1098 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah for me, it's Patriots under like the Texans division 1099 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: and over and yeah, that's gonna do it for the 1100 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: a F East, AFC South. 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