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Speaker 1: I made this case an article for drop site last

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Speaker 1: week that basically the coalitions, the groups of voters that

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Speaker 1: are fleeing the Democratic Party the fastest are the exact

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Speaker 1: groups of voters that we're Bernie Sanders was the strongest,

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Speaker 1: and it's because of you know what I just lay

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Speaker 1: down about how he has a coherent, narrative vision of

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Speaker 1: the world, He has a coherent, divisive politics versus this

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Speaker 1: like dumb neoliberal laundry list crap that Gamala and Biden

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Speaker 1: and all these people run with. And so he wrote

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Speaker 1: out a pretty scathing indictment of the Democratic Party which

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Speaker 1: we covered last week, where he said they've abandoned working

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Speaker 1: class people, which I think is you know, under and

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Speaker 1: that the covid erasocial safety Net was rolled back under

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Speaker 1: good stuff on labor that is not helping people's material

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Speaker 1: conditions today. So he put that out and Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: shot back at him. Here is Bernie getting asked about

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Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders has not won. Let me with all due respect,

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Speaker 3: and I have a great deal of respect for him

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Speaker 3: for what he stands for, but I don't respect him

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Speaker 3: saying that the Democratic Party has abandoned the working class family.

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Speaker 4: Senator, how do you respond to Nancy Pelosi?

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Speaker 5: Well, Nancy is a friend of mine and we've worked

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Speaker 5: together on many issues. But here is reality I have

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Speaker 5: to say to Nancy in the Senate. In the last

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Speaker 5: two years, we have not even brought forth legislation to

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Speaker 5: raise the minimal wage to a living wage, despite the

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Speaker 5: fact that some twenty million people in this country are

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Speaker 5: working for less than fifteen dollars an hour in americ today,

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Speaker 5: we have not brought in the Senate, we have not

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Speaker 5: brought to the floor the pro Act to make it

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Speaker 5: easier for workers to join unions. We're not talking about

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Speaker 5: the find benefit pension plans so that our elderly can

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Speaker 5: of social Security and raised benefits. Bottom line, if you're

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Speaker 5: an average working person out there, do you really think

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Speaker 5: that the Democratic Party is going to the mats, taking

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Speaker 1: Some real talk there from Bertie. If you are your

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Speaker 1: average voter, you really think the Democratic Party has going

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Speaker 4: No, you don't.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't because they are way too berholden to

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Speaker 1: the donor class. And we'll probably cover this tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: even Center Chris Murphy put on a long tweet thread

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I was going to say, in terms

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Speaker 2: screen Jamie Harrison, the DNC saying that Bernie is quote

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Speaker 2: straight up BS Biden was the most pro worker president

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Speaker 2: Whereas I think Harrison and them are in this world

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Speaker 1: It's also the fact, I mean, Biden is literally incapable

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Speaker 1: Inflation hit them really hard. Prices still are quite high.

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Speaker 1: Just because inflation slow doesn't mean the prices went back down.

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Speaker 1: Ordinary people are experiencing this. You know, as I hope

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Speaker 1: The labor stuff super important. But again, this doesn't hit

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Speaker 1: So in any case, you know, Jamie Harrison right now

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Speaker 1: And that's something Bernie instinctively gets and to your point, Cyber,

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Speaker 1: I think more likely what you're going to get is

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Speaker 6: Joe Rogan, very popular podcaster, he endorsed Donald Trump in

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Speaker 6: the final days of the election four years ago. You

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Speaker 6: So is this the kind of example of Democrats perhaps

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair enough. Look, you goin to

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump, please contact us and we will have

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Speaker 8: Violence in Amsterdam left at least five people injured and

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Speaker 4: What is going on here?

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Speaker 2: I saw somebody say that was what the fuck is

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Speaker 2: But by the way, Amsterdam it's a cool place. I

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Speaker 1: So you actually had this young dust journalist. I saw

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Speaker 1: Innocent you know, I'm just coming to watch the game

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Speaker 1: of this, like this is who we're talking about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these are not some just like innocent minding their own

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Speaker 1: business people. This was part of the provocation, along with

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Speaker 1: actual violence, vandalism.

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Speaker 4: Et cetera. So just the thoroughly, thoroughly.

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Speaker 1: Dishonest telling of events and reporting of events that has

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Speaker 1: the impact of you know, if you're just like a

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Speaker 1: regular or Jewish person taking in this narrative, regular person

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Speaker 1: in general, you would feel much you would feel it,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like people are just being hunted out

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Speaker 1: there for no reason. And it doesn't help people make

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Speaker 1: sense of the world and understand cause and effect and

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Speaker 1: how this all ultimately unfolded. And again, I am not

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Speaker 1: con like I think violence all the way around apporrent,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a way to respond to even

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Speaker 1: the ugliest of provocations such as these, but you have

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Speaker 1: to be honest about the events that actually unfolded. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, I wanted to update everyone on a

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Speaker 1: un report that has come out that has laid down

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Speaker 1: in horrific detail exactly who is being killed by the

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Speaker 1: IDF in Gaza. Strip We can put this up on

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Speaker 1: the screen. So this is a graph that shows by

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Speaker 1: age and also by gender, who has been killed in

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Speaker 1: residential buildings in Gaza since October seventh. And as this

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Speaker 1: person pines, the base of this pyramid of death are

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Speaker 1: babies and toddlers. So those largest bars that you see

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Speaker 1: at the bottom, the single largest age group that was

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Speaker 1: killed were five to nine year olds five to nine

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Speaker 1: year olds. If you add up all these numbers, you'll

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Speaker 1: find that some seventy percent of those killed that you

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Speaker 1: know are confirmed and still a lot of questions about

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Speaker 1: exactly how many people have been killed, but seventy percent

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Speaker 1: of them females and children, women and children. So that's

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about here in terms of the prosecution

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Speaker 1: of this war. Also let's put this next piece up

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Speaker 1: on the screen, because this is also significant and totally

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Speaker 1: something we've predicted and has been obvious to anyone who

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Speaker 1: is following. But why not is now admitting that net

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Speaker 1: Nyahu's Mochrich ben Givier in the type they do not

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Speaker 1: want the hostages back. They say that the problem of

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Speaker 1: the hostages will be solved quote naturally and tragically because

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Speaker 1: they will be killed the deaths in captivity. They write

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Speaker 1: in why of another twenty to thirty hostages will be

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Speaker 1: swallowed up in the sea of morning for the fallen soldiers. Then,

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Speaker 1: when public anger is channeled against the US, Israeli leadership

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Speaker 1: will not be in a hurry to withdraw from the

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Speaker 1: Gaza territory, that the idea of captured from the terrorist organization.

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Speaker 1: Ministers in MK's on the right do not hide their

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Speaker 1: ambitions to establish settlements there. And you know, BB basically

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Speaker 1: place to bet that Trump would be victorious.

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Speaker 4: He was correct. He fired.

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Speaker 1: Now you have Galant, who is not a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, was the one who was talking about

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Speaker 1: Palestinians or animal human animals, we need to treat them

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Speaker 1: as such. But he was within the government interested in

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Speaker 1: pursuing some sort of a ceasefire deal and hostage negotiation deal.

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Speaker 1: He has now been asked the quote unquote General's plan

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Speaker 1: is in full effect where they're sealing off northern Gaza.

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Speaker 1: Anyone left there no aid is just going to be

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Speaker 1: murdered and massacred strikes continue within the Gaza strip that continue,

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Speaker 1: you know, are devastating and Biebe definitely feels now like

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Speaker 1: he has a completely free hand, not that he didn't

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Speaker 1: before it, but now he has a completely free hand,

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Speaker 1: including to do things like just re established settlements in

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Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip, which is something that's very important to

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Speaker 1: as coalition partners.

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Speaker 4: Where he may have.

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Speaker 1: Had a fear that Biden Harris administration might have drawn

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Speaker 1: some sort of red line there. We can be damn

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Speaker 1: sure that now there will be no red line and

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Speaker 1: he'll have his friend at least Stefanick in the UN.

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Speaker 2: It's on the whole red line thing though, like Biden

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Speaker 2: didn't have red line, let him invade Lebanon, he let

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Speaker 2: him take over the West Bank and let him level Gaza.

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Speaker 2: So like, you know, substantively, will there really be any difference,

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Speaker 2: I think it will just be rhetoric.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say, to be honest, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think certain things I do think are different. For example,

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Speaker 1: like Miriam Maddilson, who is one of Trump's top donors,

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Speaker 1: one of the things she wants is to allow them

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Speaker 1: to annex the West Bank as well. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's clear actually in that Macabee soccer video

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Speaker 1: that we played, one of the soccer who wigets was

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Speaker 1: running around with a Trump sign, like Israeli's overwhelmingly wanted

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Speaker 1: Trump because they're not even gonna get any tutting, any pressure, know,

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Speaker 1: nothing whatsoever. So I do think it's some different, But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's impossible to argue at this point that

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Speaker 1: it's not like Biden and Harris drow any hard red

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Speaker 1: lines that they ever.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I mean. Look, in practice, this

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Speaker 2: is also where the farce. You know, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: well Israel is officially going to annex the West It's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: well they literally occupy it, they run it. They know

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Speaker 2: it's in terms of militarily occupying, arresting, and have total impunity.

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Speaker 2: Right now, is there any difference between that and official annexation?

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Speaker 2: Like not really? I mean, I guess in terms of

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Speaker 2: internal administration. But you know, I mean, I'm not seeing

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Speaker 2: that much different. You know, the one thing people should

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Speaker 2: hope for is don't forget this. So the reporting is

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Speaker 2: is that Trump has talked to Netanyahu three times already.

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Speaker 2: He was elected six days ago, so no, actually really

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Speaker 2: five days ago in terms of the number of calendar days.

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Speaker 2: Three times they've been on the phone. Remember that reporting

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Speaker 2: and behind the scenes where they're like, he was like, look,

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Speaker 2: you do what you got to do, but you need

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Speaker 2: to wrap this up by that time that you're over

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Speaker 2: one thing that is a thing against Netanyah? Who is that?

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Speaker 2: Because Netanya who is one of the first leaders to

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Speaker 2: congratulate by his on Trump's or on Biden's election. Trump

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Speaker 2: never forgave him for that and still is very upset.

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Speaker 2: So there is possibility of some like, look, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to paint some pro pala side picture any of that.

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Speaker 2: All the policy stuff is going to go in Israel's direction.

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Speaker 2: I could see him saying something along lines of listen,

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Speaker 2: you've had your fun, but now it's over, like we

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Speaker 2: cannot deal with all of these bombings and this anti

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Speaker 2: aircraft defense. Just from a sheer like aesthetic perspective, that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to deal with it, that is. And

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Speaker 2: the other thing is BB in them if they do

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Speaker 2: give them, you know, the West Bank and all this

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Speaker 2: other maybe they say, you know, with the firing of

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Speaker 2: uf Glaunch and all this, maybe we don't expand the

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Speaker 2: war we've gotten. I mean, look, they've gotten everything they've

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Speaker 2: ever wanted. They have total control of guys, they have

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Speaker 2: total control of the West Bank, and they literally are

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Speaker 2: militarily occupying the sovereign nation half the sovereign nation of Lebanon.

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Speaker 2: What else could you want, like, other than regime change

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Speaker 2: in Iran, that's not going to happen at least we

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Speaker 2: can hope.

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Speaker 1: So well, Yeah, I don't know why you're so confident

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Speaker 1: about that one. I mean, he put in charge of

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Speaker 1: filling out some of his more positions is Brian Hook's

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Speaker 1: guy is very pro.

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Speaker 2: Hook is on the fence right now. He's not in

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Speaker 2: charge per se. He's up for NSA and he's part

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Speaker 2: of the transition.

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Speaker 1: But there is still almost uniformly throughout the Republican coalition

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Speaker 1: there's a good divide on Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: On Iran, there's really not a divide.

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Speaker 1: I mean it like Trump himself was out saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's they should strike Iranian nuclear facilities, And the track

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Speaker 1: record of his first administration was extremely hawkish vs Iran.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's very likely that you're

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Speaker 1: going to see a hawkish foreign policy vis.

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Speaker 2: I think you will see heavy sanctions and look sanctions piece,

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Speaker 2: no question, all right, in terms of choking the Iranian economy,

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen. No, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: The actual war though, I wouldn't be so sure. So

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Speaker 2: Bridge Colby, who's up for National Security Advisor, he was

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Speaker 2: just on Tucker Carlson Show yesterday making the case against

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Speaker 2: war with Iran. Whyat would be a disaster. There are

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Speaker 2: several and that was one of the first sections actually

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Speaker 2: that Tucker talked about with him. It's a big priority

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Speaker 2: for Tucker. It's also a big Don Junior thing also

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Speaker 2: in terms of in terms of the coalition for how

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Speaker 2: it all looks like, you're not wrong in terms of

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Speaker 2: them being more hawkish, like on the nuclear deal and

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Speaker 2: all that, But for actual regime change, it's more figures

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Speaker 2: like Hook and others who may push that, but they're

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Speaker 2: as far as I can tell right now, a little

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Speaker 2: bit more in the minority. I don't want to overstate

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Speaker 2: the case. You know, for example, heavy sanctions on Iran

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Speaker 2: could still lead to a conflagration because of the nuclear program.

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Speaker 2: You know, who knows that the Iranians also get a vote.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do. You know, if

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Speaker 2: they could decide to say fuck this, I'm going nuclear

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Speaker 2: after the way that we've been treated over.

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Speaker 4: The last honestly, you know, five years, logical thing for

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Speaker 4: them to do.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just as controversial.

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Speaker 1: To say, but that, I mean, that's the sum total

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Speaker 1: of our foreign policy.

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Speaker 4: Makes that the logical direction from.

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Speaker 2: Me, and nobody wants to hear it. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: look at Kim Jong un. The best thing that they

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Speaker 2: ever did was get a nuclear weapon. It was correct.

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Speaker 2: Every time we tell the Kim regime, we're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you guys should give up your nukes, They're like, are

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Speaker 2: you kidding me? Look at Gadafi, they shoved a rod

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Speaker 2: up as asked. It's never happening with regards.

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Speaker 1: To Russia, like the there's even any reluctance to just

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Speaker 1: go in there and like crush one is because they

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Speaker 1: have an act right, So that's the foreign policy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it's good. I think there's you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: in favor of, like, you know, getting rid of the

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Speaker 1: Dukes all together. But that's the logic that we've laid

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Speaker 1: out in terms of our foreign policies.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, if I was a roun not just like that,

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Speaker 4: we should have all of things.

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Speaker 2: Look at India, Pakistan, right, you know, Saudi Arabia, Israel.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows Israel as a nuclear we I mean, these

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Speaker 2: people will do it for a reason, so it is

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Speaker 2: highly rational for them to pursue. I don't disagree with you.

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Speaker 2: The only question is whether they can withstand the economic pressure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, their economy is it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously they've they've got they've already come

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Speaker 2: off of years of issues. So it's really up to

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Speaker 2: them and to their own regime on how they want

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Speaker 2: to decide.

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Speaker 4: All right, Sorry, were you looking at well?

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Speaker 2: Election Night twenty twenty four was historic for many reasons

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Speaker 2: that we have covered and we will continue to cover

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Speaker 2: on this show. But one of the great shocks of

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Speaker 2: them all, even to someone like me who has observed

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Speaker 2: and participated in those trends for the better part of

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Speaker 2: a decade is how many of you spent election night.

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Speaker 2: It used to be really not that long ago. Election

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Speaker 2: night was synonymous with cable news. It was one of

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Speaker 2: the few monopolies that they had left. They had the data,

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Speaker 2: they have the analysts, they have the pull to project

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Speaker 2: and to call races. I'd say even a decade ago,

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Speaker 2: they had a near total monopoly on all of it,

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Speaker 2: despite the rise of social media. But within the last

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Speaker 2: decade it is almost flipped completely. And even I was

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Speaker 2: shocked at the statistics that came out showing how precipitous

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Speaker 2: the drop in ratings for cable news networks on election

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four was. Nielsen data released after the

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Speaker 2: election shows that some forty two million Americans tuned in

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Speaker 2: to watch election night coverage last Tuesday. That is a

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Speaker 2: full twenty five percent drop from four years Prior internalized

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Speaker 2: that twenty five percent drop in just four years for

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Speaker 2: literally the most important night in cable news history, an

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Speaker 2: election where more than one hundred million people voted and

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Speaker 2: where more than half of them were not watching cable television.

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Speaker 2: Juxtaposed that with the sheer numbers that we were talking

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Speaker 2: about in terms of people who are consuming new media.

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Speaker 2: A new Wall Street Journal analysis finds it nearly forty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of US adults have now listened to a

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Speaker 2: podcast in the last month of twenty twenty four, with

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Speaker 2: hockey stick growth growing every single year since twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: What's even more astonishing are the numbers with Americans below

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Speaker 2: the age of fifty four. That same analysis finds it

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Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of Americans below the age of

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Speaker 2: fifty four regularly consumed podcasts, with a slightly higher share

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Speaker 2: of men than women. Compare that with the lightning growth

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Speaker 2: of that lightning growth with the median age of cable

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Speaker 2: TV on MSNBC, the median age of seventy. On Fox,

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Speaker 2: it's sixty nine. On CNN it's sixty eight. So remember

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Speaker 2: that the median age. That's the median, which means there's

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Speaker 2: a group of eighty and ninety year olds who are

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Speaker 2: also watching their fair share of cable TV. All of

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Speaker 2: this data even tracks what we are doing here. Election

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Speaker 2: Night was our biggest ever livestream viewers, downloads, and we

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Speaker 2: are just a small slice of a pie that includes

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Speaker 2: dozens of independent shows out there, all of whom at

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Speaker 2: least that I've spoken to. They all had major record

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Speaker 2: ratings and nights after the election. This is incredibly important

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Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. One is it validates a

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Speaker 2: central bet that the Trump campaign made about three months

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Speaker 2: ago to go on as many podcasts as possible, to

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Speaker 2: reach as many people as possible, especially for young men,

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Speaker 2: and hope that they drive out to vote. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot of discussion around this, but on the other

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Speaker 2: side of this election we can say confidently it worked.

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Speaker 2: Trump won more than voters under the age of thirty

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Speaker 2: than any Republican candidate since two thousand and eight. But

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Speaker 2: the headline is not just that he blew Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: out with young men under the age of third thirty.

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Speaker 2: It's also that he improved his vote margins significantly with

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Speaker 2: young women. Here too, there are some very interesting explanations.

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Speaker 2: It's not just podcasts that young people are consuming, but

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Speaker 2: also TikTok, Instagram, and short form content. Trump wrapped up

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Speaker 2: an astonishing fourteen point three million followers on TikTok versus

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris only had nine point three million, and the

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Speaker 2: same journal analysis finds that some forty percent of Americans

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Speaker 2: under the age of thirty used TikTok as a regular

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Speaker 2: source of news, especially young women, and basically every way

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Speaker 2: across all platforms. Trump dominated new media. Accident. That is

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Speaker 2: also the same election where he won the popular vote

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Speaker 2: for the first time. It is not an accident that

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Speaker 2: it's the same election where he won a majority of

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Speaker 2: Latino men and dramatically improved his margins with young black men.

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Speaker 2: There are almost no demographic groups in the United States

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Speaker 2: that did not shift towards Donald Trump. So I will

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Speaker 2: end with the recommendation then to the Trump white House.

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Speaker 2: The biggest mistake that you can make is to fall

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Speaker 2: into the traditions of Washington. As I described in detail

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Speaker 2: here in a post on Twitter, the entire White House

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Speaker 2: Correspondents Association is a cartel. It is designed to keep

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Speaker 2: out new entrants, not just conservatives, but people like our

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Speaker 2: very own Ryan Grimm. They run the credentialing process, the

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Speaker 2: seating chart, and they have in place a million rules

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Speaker 2: to stop new media from coming in. The Trump white

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Speaker 2: House actually owes its win to new media in a

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Speaker 2: way that nobody has before, and to the Internet, unlike

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Speaker 2: endly candidates since Barack Obama. So it is vital they

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Speaker 2: shake things up, do away with the current White House

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Speaker 2: breast briefing as we know it. Stats in the rooms

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Speaker 2: should not be they should be rotated. Preference should be

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Speaker 2: given actually to those with audience it's, rather than the

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Speaker 2: aging television networks who have preference for traditions that go

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Speaker 2: back to the nineteen eighties. Left and right wing journalists

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Speaker 2: of all stripes and audience should be invited, and the

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Speaker 2: briefing itself should have the pace of a longer YouTube

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Speaker 2: video rather than the current cable TV style food fight

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Speaker 2: debate that those people turn it into. This will require

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Speaker 2: a lot of work and it will piss off the

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Speaker 2: traditional press royally, but all the data I have presented

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Speaker 2: here makes the case that to not do so would

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Speaker 2: actually be against the interests of the Trump White House,

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Speaker 2: but it'll also be against disservice to the American people.

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Speaker 2: As traditional media is losing its relevance and its viewership,

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Speaker 2: it is imperative for the People's House to actually meet

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Speaker 2: Americans where they are at, and we can say confidently

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Speaker 2: they're definitely not on mainstream media, at least not anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think it's crazy, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to hear my reaction to Sagres's monologue,

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Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. In

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Speaker 1: the wake of Donald Trump's sweeping battleground state victory, the

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Speaker 1: Potsdave America Bros. Made a pretty stunning revelation for actually,

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Speaker 1: it could have been so much worse.

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Speaker 4: Here is Jon Favreau.

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Speaker 9: Joe Biden's decision to run for president again was a

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Speaker 9: catastrophic mistake.

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Speaker 5: It just was.

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Speaker 9: And he in his inner circle they refused to believe

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Speaker 9: the polls. They refused to believe he was unpopular. They

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Speaker 9: refused to acknowledge until very late that anyone could be

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Speaker 9: upset about inflation. And they just kept telling us that

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Speaker 9: his presidency was historic and it was the greatest economy ever.

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Speaker 9: We just heard him again say that it's the greatest

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Speaker 9: economy ever. Clearly seventy eighty percent of voters don't believe that.

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Speaker 9: They don't believe that about their own personal financial situation,

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Speaker 9: but they just keep telling us that. And then after

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Speaker 9: the debate, the Biden people told us that the polls

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Speaker 9: were fine and Biden was still the strongest candidate. They

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Speaker 9: were privately telling reporters at the time that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 9: couldn't win, So they were shiving Kamala Harris two reporters,

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Speaker 9: while they told everyone else, not a time for an

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Speaker 9: open process, and his vice president can't win, so he's

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Speaker 9: the strongest candidate. Then we find out when the Biden

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Speaker 9: campaign becomes the Harris campaign that the Biden campaign's own

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Speaker 9: internal polling at the time when they were telling us

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Speaker 9: he was the strongest candidate, showed that Donald Trump was

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Speaker 9: going to win four hundred electoral votes. That's what their

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Speaker 9: own internal polling said.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred electoral College votes. Do you understand what that

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Speaker 1: looks like? With the actual results, Dems took a real shallaking,

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Speaker 1: losing the Senate, almost certainly failing and went back the House,

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Speaker 1: but they kept it close enough that they probably lived

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Speaker 1: to fight another day. A Joe Biden four hundred electoral

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Speaker 1: college vote defeat means Republicans at or close to a

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Speaker 1: filibuster proof supermajority in the Senate, a gigantic margin in

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Speaker 1: the House. It means the Democratic Party completely burned to ashes,

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Speaker 1: with nothing but a post apocalyptic landscape remaining. The Mandate

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Speaker 1: and the power of Trump's Republican Party would be unmatched,

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Speaker 1: not even close in modern politics. After all, Reagans still

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Speaker 1: had to contend with the Democratic House, even as he

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Speaker 1: notched landslide electoral college victories. The four hundred electoral college

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Speaker 1: vote revelation is important, though, for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 4: First of all, obviously.

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Speaker 1: An indictment of Joe Biden himself, whose legacy is now genocide.

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Speaker 1: Plus ushering an unrestrained Trump back into the White House,

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Speaker 1: the arrogance and delusion of this man is truly stunning.

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Speaker 1: It's also clearly an absolute indictment of every single party

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Speaker 1: official elite who circled the wagons to keep Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: in the race and to prohibit any sort of real

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Speaker 1: Democratic primary. You people claimed you thought Trump was an

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Speaker 1: existential threat, You sure a shit did knack like it,

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Speaker 1: did you? Instead, you marched delusionally forward, claiming the president

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Speaker 1: in a clear state of advanced decline was really a

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Speaker 1: secret political genius. But this alternative timeline four hundred electoral

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Speaker 1: College vote defeat is also a potential forecast of what

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Speaker 1: could come should the Democratic Party not make a dramatic

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Speaker 1: turn now, Because as bad as the selection was, Democrats

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Speaker 1: haven't even come close to hitting rock bottom. Dem saw

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Speaker 1: dramatic shifts against them among Latino men and gen Z

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Speaker 1: young men in particular, the class divide was quite stark.

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Speaker 1: Harris one voters earning over one hundred k and Trump

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Speaker 1: one those earning under one hundred k Kamala lost ground

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Speaker 1: among voters of color of all education levels. And what's more,

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Speaker 1: there is absolutely no reason to think that any of

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Speaker 1: these shifts and realignments are complete or that Democrats have

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Speaker 1: found their actual floor. It is entirely possible that the

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Speaker 1: four hundred electoral college defeat is where the presently constituted

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Speaker 1: Democrats are headed and fast. Just think about it pretty simply.

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Speaker 1: Roughly speaking, only about a thirty adult population has college degrees.

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts actually has the highest percent of college guards in

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Speaker 1: the country, and even there, college graduates do not comprise

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Speaker 1: a majority of the adult population. This leads to a

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Speaker 1: pretty simple conclusion. If non college educated voters continue fleeing

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, that party is cooked, relegated to a powerless,

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Speaker 1: permanent minority party status. There is nothing written in law

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Speaker 1: or nature that requires the country to be an evenly

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Speaker 1: divided roughly fifty to fifty split. In our own country's history,

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Speaker 1: we can see periods of disproportionate one party dominance, and

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Speaker 1: no one shouldool themselves either about the measures fully empowered

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Speaker 1: Republicans with a stack Supreme Court would take to ensure

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Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party could never meaningfully fully compete again.

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Speaker 1: Trump just won on a genuinely anti democratic message. After all,

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Speaker 1: he literally called for abolish in the Constitution, acting as

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Speaker 1: a dictator on day one. Supreme Court has granted him

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Speaker 1: immunity for all official actions, and Republicans have a clear

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Speaker 1: roadmap to follow in the program of Hungary's Victor or Bond,

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Speaker 1: where he has used the veneer of democracy to successfully

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Speaker 1: permanently entrench his own regime before a stunning landslide victory.

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Speaker 1: Or Bond described how to effectively gain permanent control of

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Speaker 1: a so called democracy, saying quote, it was enough to

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Speaker 1: win just once, but.

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Speaker 4: Decisively, that was the way.

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Speaker 1: Now Republicans may be one more cycle with this level

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Speaker 1: of realignment away from winning just such a crushing victory.

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Speaker 1: Now it's the initial shock of Kamala's lost weares off.

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Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if the democratic consultant, establishment and donor

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Speaker 1: classes begin to quickly reassert themselves and claim there's no

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Speaker 1: real need for a course correction, let alone a dramatic overhaul.

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Speaker 1: It's already happening. In fact, that's what the Bernie versus

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Speaker 1: Pelosi fight we covered earlier.

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Speaker 4: Is all about.

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Speaker 1: Just listen to Jim Clyburn, the man most responsible for

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Speaker 1: propping up Biden and putting Kama on the ticket, saying

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Speaker 1: there's no point playing the blame game.

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Speaker 4: Right guys.

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Speaker 10: I just think that as we take an assessment of

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Speaker 10: all of this, we all to just chill out for

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Speaker 10: a while, get in touch with each other, don't worry

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Speaker 10: about blaming anybody. You know what they say, success has

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Speaker 10: a thousand parents, Failure is an offer, and so when

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Speaker 10: you really successful, everybody claims credit. When you come up short,

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Speaker 10: everybody seems to scatter and assign blame. I think that

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Speaker 10: all of us will be taking stock of exactly where

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Speaker 10: we are as a party, what happened in this election,

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Speaker 10: and then go from there. I don't want this election

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Speaker 10: to define how we go about treating candidates of color

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Speaker 10: or candidates who maybe women. I think we'll just take

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Speaker 10: the stop of who and what we are and not

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Speaker 10: get caught up and pointed fingers and sign and blame.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I I'm quite sure that Jim Cliburn does not

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Speaker 1: want finger pointing, because a good number of those fingers

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Speaker 1: would be pointed right at him. Absolutely incredible. You're going

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Speaker 1: to hear a lot of it. Though, you're going to

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Speaker 1: hear it wasn't really so bad. Look at the three

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Speaker 1: battleground states. Trump only won by a narrow margin, and

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Speaker 1: almost all of the swing state Democrats kept their seats.

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Speaker 4: These types will.

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Speaker 1: Point to the losses suffer by incumbent parties globally and

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Speaker 1: they'll say, see, we've just were facing really tough headwinds, guys,

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Speaker 1: wasn't really our fault. They'll offer some limited critiques of

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Speaker 1: some small ball tactics.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Kamala should have gone on with Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 1: They'll invent things completely, like claiming Kama was too woke

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Speaker 1: when she spent the entire campaign studiously avoiding wokeness. Or

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Speaker 1: they'll blame a singular individual like Biden or Pelosi Kama herself,

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Speaker 1: not depending on merit, but depending on their own intra

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Speaker 1: party tribal affiliations. Now, in a sense, this criticus have merit.

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Speaker 1: It was close in the industrial Midwest, after all, I

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Speaker 1: think it is plausible to imagine maybe a Gavin Newso,

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Speaker 1: maybe mayor Pete or even big Gretch could have pulled

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Speaker 1: off the election victory. The exact place where Dums find

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Speaker 1: themselves today is still in the ball game enough that

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Speaker 1: it is conceivable some small adjustment could have been sufficient

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Speaker 1: to win this particular election. The current status of the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party isn't a complete catastrophe, but make no mistake,

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Speaker 1: the long term trajectory is death. If the trends that

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Speaker 1: the party saw between twenty sixteen and now continue unmitigated,

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Speaker 1: it will be utterly catastrophic in a way that is

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Speaker 1: probably unrecoverable.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: After Hillary lost in twenty sixteen, Democrats had a chance

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Speaker 1: to actually learn some real lessons about their abandment of

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Speaker 1: working people, to see the writing on the wall about

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Speaker 1: their future electoral prospects. Instead, they chose denial. It was sexism,

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Speaker 1: it was comy, it was Russia. Hillary herself, self interested

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Speaker 1: in blame shifting, of course, led the charge. Biden's extremely

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Speaker 1: narrow victory was taken as vindication, but once again the

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Speaker 1: alarm bells were ringing. The continued shift of Latinos towards Trump,

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Speaker 1: the widening of the education divide, the fact that Biden

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Speaker 1: was barely able to win while Trump was literally getting

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Speaker 1: people killed in the middle of a pandemic. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: exactly a ringing endorsement for the Democratic Party. Do not

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Speaker 1: underestimate that party's desire and self interest in once again

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Speaker 1: learning nothing and changing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Just think about it.

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Speaker 1: Kamma's campaign was a multi billion dollar industry. Consultants received

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Speaker 1: multi million dollar contracts, the checks cash whether those ads

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Speaker 1: worked or not. The DNC it's a cartel for Texas

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Speaker 1: chosen consultants and allied politicians. CNN and MSNBC exist to

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Speaker 1: carry the establishment party line.

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Speaker 4: It's a racket, and it won't be disrupted.

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Speaker 1: By a few establishment types meekly whispering.

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Speaker 4: You know what, guys, maybe Bernie was right.

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Speaker 1: So for anyone who's left of MAGA, for my Libs

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Speaker 1: and my lefties alike, we gotta be crystal clear about

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Speaker 1: a few critical things. Number One, third parties are a

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Speaker 1: waste of fricking time and energy. I'm sorry, I wish

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that way, but it is right. Choice voting

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Speaker 1: just got beaten even more badly than the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: and state referendums. I wish it wasn't true. The most

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Speaker 1: credible third party candidate, doctor Joe Stein. She got less

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Speaker 1: than one percent of the vote. It wasn't even enough

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Speaker 1: votes for Demps to try to blame her and call

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Speaker 1: her a spoiler. The only electoral vehicle for opposing trump

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Speaker 1: Ism is the Democratic Party number two. The Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: itself is in danger of extinction as meaningful opposition. Everyone

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Speaker 1: who's been steering the ship over the past eight years,

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Speaker 1: they should all be fired, every brain done, consultant contract terminated,

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Speaker 1: and crucially crucially, the working class must be put ahead

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Speaker 1: of the party's donors. Senator Chris Murphy, to my surprise,

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Speaker 1: actually got a lot right in a recent tweet thread,

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Speaker 1: where he wrote, in part, when progressives like Bernie aggressively

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Speaker 1: go after or the elites that hold people down, they

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Speaker 1: are shunned as dangerous populous. Why maybe because true economic

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Speaker 1: populism is bad for our high income base. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: think now, Look, Trump is done in four years time.

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Speaker 1: His successors don't have nearly the juice that he does,

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Speaker 1: as evidenced by the fact that he outperformed nearly every

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Speaker 1: Republican in the country. Democrats may have kept the margins

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Speaker 1: close enough in the House and the Senate to stay

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Speaker 1: in the game for now, but it is time for

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Speaker 1: a dramatic turnaround or that four hundred electoral college wipeout

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was heading for could be just around

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Speaker 1: the next four year corner. So yeah, it's pretty dire

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Speaker 1: for them, and I'm not sure that And if.

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