1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: four hour NBA news. This's you, Chris Haynes. It's time, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Mark Stein. It's so time. This League Uncut is underway 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: and on fire. This should be a good one. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Friends, Welcome in to another edition of This League Uncut. 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: Mark Stein Chris Haynes no longer side by side on 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: the Vegas Strip fun while it lasted, though, we are 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: still kind of basking in the glory of our first 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: live pod together, the first time we were together anywhere 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: in months, had a tremendous hour at Caesar's Palace with 11 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Lakers coach Darvin Ham. So good we made it a 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: two part episod. But summer league is over. I am 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: back in Dallas, the esteemed mister Haynes back in Northern California. 14 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Free agency, as we've been saying it ended, essentially ended 15 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: quite quickly, most of the big names off the board 16 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: within forty eight to seventy two hours. At this point, 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: pretty much all the salary cap space has been spent. 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: There are still some names out there, Kelly Ubray, Christian Wood, 19 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Derek Jones Junior. If you want to look at restricted 20 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: free agents, PJ. Washington. His situation still remains unsolved, but 21 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, free agency wise, we've pretty much seen it 22 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: all at this point. The league, nonetheless, if Summer League 23 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: is over all the thirty teams have gone home, executives 24 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: and coaches have started to disperse on some semblance of 25 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: a vacation. But the league is also still on a 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: three pronged trade watch. Damian Lillard, James Harden, Pascal Siakam 27 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: all three year All stars. All three, maybe not all three, 28 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: but all three theoretically could be traded between now and 29 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: the start of the season. Remember, the season starts a 30 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: little bit later this time around. We've got the World 31 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Cup coming up in Indonesia, Japan and the Philippines. That's 32 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: August twenty fifth to September tenth. Training camp starts. October 33 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: second is media day for twenty eight of the league's 34 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: thirty teams, Dallas and Minnesota because they are playing abroad 35 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: in the Exhibi Mission season, they they'll have their media days. 36 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Believe it's the twenty ninth of September. First practice on 37 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: September thirtieth, But Lillard Harden them, how many of those 38 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: guys will any of those guys be moved before training 39 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: camp starts. And now I bring in my good friend, 40 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: the man who has all the answers to all of 41 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: these difficult questions. And I'm kidding because nobody has those answers. 42 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: But I like, I like putting Hi under, putting him, 43 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: putting him on the spot a little bit. Here, my man, 44 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: Chris Haynes, How you doing, how you holding up? You 45 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: get back? You get back home from Vegas? 46 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm back home. 47 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: But I definitely do not have all the answers because 48 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: if I did, my a C would be fixed by now. 49 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Man, it's scandal still without a C. 50 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: How long has it been. 51 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: It's been about a month now, been about a month now. 52 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: And the AC service, the company keeps counseling on only 53 00:03:53,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: on me. It's just just they've just been back lawn. 54 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: I don't know when they're going to get to me. 55 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: And I've been sweating my ass off right now. And 56 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: our producer, our great producer, Ryan said that I could 57 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: not sit by my fan that I was comfortably sitting 58 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: at because it would show excuse me, it would you 59 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: would hear it on this podcast. So for our listeners, Stein, 60 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 4: I am away from the fan. I'm about ten feet 61 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: away from the fan. I can't feel it, but hopefully 62 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: you guys and the listeners can't hear it. I'm just 63 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: pushing through Stein to get through, but I'm doing it 64 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: off my listeners also because our great producer Ryan told. 65 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Me to Ryan's what I'm When Ryan Music speaks, we say, yes, 66 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: we don't even question it. 67 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: But I'm good, Man, I'm good. It was good seeing 68 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: you Stein. 69 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: It was a good when I give another shout out 70 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: to Darvin Ham for coming through for us out there 71 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: in Vegas at Caesars Palace. 72 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: Man, that was one awesome podcast. 73 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and before we even get to the trade stuff, 74 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: and we will, we will get to all three of 75 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: those guys a second. But I really do want to 76 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: tip the cap to Darvin Ham because I've written about 77 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: this a couple of times, just so people understand. You know, 78 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: there was a pretty crazy situation at Caesar's the day 79 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: that we were there, and you know it was written 80 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: about extensively. It was national news. But the part that 81 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 2: I've written about, you know, we didn't see it since 82 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: it feel that there was nothing near us really that 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: would even let you know anything was going on. But 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: NBA security sent out alerts that day to basically anybody 85 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: at the Summer League in a team capacity, and I saw, 86 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, I've seen what these alerts looked like. And 87 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: NBA security was basically telling anyone associated with Summer League 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: do not go to Caesar's Palace right now because of 89 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: police activity in the area. And Darvin Ham easily could 90 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 2: have seen that alert and said, you know what, guys, 91 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: I'm out, but he didn't. He came to the pod 92 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: as scheduled, right on time and gave us an hour 93 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: when we asked for like twenty twenty five minutes. So 94 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: that was truly truly a Yoman effort. And I hope 95 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: everybody loved that because I don't think you could ask 96 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: for much more candor than we got from the Lakers coach. 97 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: But all right, that is enough. That is enough backstory 98 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: and background. I know you guys all want to know 99 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: about the trades, but I mean the reality is, you know, 100 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: there's not a ton of movement. I think we anyone 101 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: who has followed the Damian Lillard situation understands this pretty clearly. 102 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: At this point, Damian Lillard wants to go to Miami. 103 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: The Blazers to this point do not like the offers 104 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: that have been put on the table by the heat. 105 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Nobody else is bidding at this point, and so we 106 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: have generally a stalemate. What's going to happen to make 107 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: this thing move? Will it move? Will Chris Haynes will 108 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: his will his air conditioning be repaired before we get 109 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: some movement on the Damian Lillard situation. 110 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: I still hope. So oh, I still hope. 111 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: So I mean, what do you what do you think 112 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: is going on? What is the best what is the 113 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: best update you can provide on on what's going on 114 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: with Dame? Uh? 115 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: This is what I can say that's happening. It's obviously 116 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: the Miami heat. You know, they're a bit frustrated with 117 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: how things are moving along slowly. Portland is telling them 118 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: to bring us your best offer. Miami would like to 119 00:07:54,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: know what does Portland want and Miami is not getting 120 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: that answer, and so they feel like things can be 121 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: moving on a little bit quicker if Portland would say 122 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: exactly what it is they want, because obviously Miami doesn't 123 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: have all the assets that Portland would want in a 124 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: return for Damian little trade, so they want to know, Okay, 125 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: what do we have to get out there, what other 126 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: teams to, what other teams do do we have to 127 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: get involved to make this work, and so far the 128 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: communication is just not there. 129 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: And so that's that's making. 130 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: This situation rather frustrating on on that side for Miami, 131 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: what I can tell you is both teams are they're 132 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: heading to their head on vacation and you know, especially 133 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: the key the key people in the front office who 134 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: plays a larger responsibility in trying to make a deal happen. 135 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: That's not to say that a trade can't be done 136 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: during vacation, but that's that's just where things stand right now, 137 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: and that's that's just where we're headed. 138 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: So still not a lot of clarity. Still not a 139 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: lot of clarity. 140 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 4: And I know Demi Lili's agent, Aaron Goodwin, was hoping 141 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: that Miami and Portland would meet in Las Vegas during 142 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: Summer League. 143 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: That did not happen. So this, you know, this could 144 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: potentially be the long game. 145 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: It sounds like it. I mean, we know that a 146 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: Miami offer as it stands, it's obviously going to feature 147 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and multiple first round picks and some pick swaps. 148 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: You know, does it include you know, does it include 149 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: a Caleb Martin. Does it include other young players on 150 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: the heat roster? Is there a way Miami can put 151 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: something together on its own without the help of a 152 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: third or a fourth team that that Partland would ever accept. 153 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, these are the questions that everybody in the 154 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: league's been asking, But I'm gonna ask you something different. 155 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: Let's say there's no change in status between now and October. Second, 156 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: what would be your forecast? Does Dame go to Blazers camp? 157 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: Does he potentially not go to Blazers camp. It's I 158 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: think it's hard for people who have watched him and 159 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: just know how much he loves to play, it's kind 160 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: of hard to imagine him not reporting to camp. But 161 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: do we have any sense of where this thing would 162 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: go if if there's no movement here for the next 163 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: six seven weeks. 164 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Stein, I don't know. I 165 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: really don't know. 166 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: All I can say is I know Dame is, you know, 167 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: spending time with the kids, and he's ramped up his 168 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: offseason workouts, so he's pretty his own Dan. He's being 169 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: He's been pretty low key. I've talked to him just 170 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: on a few occasions, you know, giving himim his space, 171 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: So I've really don't know if he even knows the 172 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: answer to that. I think, you know, he obviously would 173 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: want a resolution quicker than later, so I think he's 174 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: just trying to bury his head into his workouts and 175 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: to his family in hopes of this thing coming to 176 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: a resolution. 177 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: I just don't just don't know if that's anytime soon. 178 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, I mean we expected at the 179 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: least some sort of communication between the teams in Vegas, 180 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: and as you just clarified, we didn't even get that. 181 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: So making that kind of forecast not easy right now. 182 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: And that's kind of the problem with all these things is, 183 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, I know everybody wants us to say, yes, 184 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: the trade is going to happen on August whatever, fill 185 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: in the you know, it's just it's just not possible 186 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: right now. I mean last year, and we saw this 187 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: last summer, you know, Donovan Mitchell, there was very intense 188 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: discussion about Donovan Mitchell trades right around the time of 189 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: Summer League in Vegas, and we didn't see a Donovan 190 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: Mitchell trade to Cleveland until early September. So it is 191 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: hard to forecast in all these situations. You know, the 192 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: same goes with James Harden in Philly. You know, obviously 193 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: that interest in that storyline got sparked further this week 194 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: when the quotes came out from Joel Embiid about I 195 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: want to win a title in Philly or wherever it is, 196 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: and that naturally put a brighter spotlight on the Sixers. 197 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: But it's I think it's somewhat of the same thing. 198 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Is that, you know, James Harden has made it clear 199 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: that he wants to be elsewhere. The Sixers have tried 200 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: to dissuade him of that stance, and admittedly have not 201 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: succeeded in those attempts. James Harden still wants out. Think 202 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: we saw an IG post from him earlier today. You know, 203 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: I am not the IG expert, but I've been assured 204 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: that this was from his IG account. Verified been comfortable 205 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: for so long, It's time to get uncomfortable. A very 206 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: cryptic statement from James Harden. What are you hearing, if anything? 207 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: On the Harden front. We know the Clippers are where 208 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: he wants to go, how how fiercely the Clippers are 209 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: prepared to go after him. I think it's still somewhat 210 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: of a matter of debate. Where are we on Harden. 211 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: This is what I can say on the Harden front. 212 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: Philly is not going to just give him away. That's 213 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. I don't know if I 214 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: will compare this to Dame situation. Yeah, Like I don't 215 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: know if I will compare us the Dame situation, because 216 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: it seems to be a little bit more tension on 217 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: that front. But then again, there's some tension here as well, 218 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: you know, And I think I don't want to say 219 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: anything and speculate, but it'd be They've got to wait 220 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: to see what James Harden says about how everything really 221 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: played out. 222 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there's a. 223 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: Lot more that hasn't been reported out there as to 224 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: why he's choosing to go this route all of a sudden. 225 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: So what I do know is Philly is going to 226 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: try to maximize their return. 227 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: This won't be you know, if. 228 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: Dame's situation wasn't at the forefront, it would be this 229 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: James Harden news right here, and it probably be a 230 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: lot more dissecting of it if there really hasn't been. 231 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: Really the primarily focus has been on. 232 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 4: Dame now, I think largely because this is Dame's first 233 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: trade request after what eleven years and this is what 234 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: James Harden's third so we got of like bend down 235 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: this role before. 236 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: So uh, you know, I don't know they're prepared as well. 237 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: You know from what I was told, Philly is prepared 238 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: as well to take this all the way to training 239 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: camp if they don't find the right deal. 240 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: So you know, what does James Harden do? 241 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: That's the thing. I think the training camp questions that 242 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: they're even louder when it comes to Harden because because 243 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: of course we remember it was just two ish years 244 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: ago that he wanted to be traded away from Houston 245 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: and his training camp presence, he didn't show up right away. 246 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: He clearly was not in optimal condition. And that's what 247 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: people are wondering now, what you know, if there is 248 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: no trade, if the Sixers maintain this fairly rigid stance 249 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: that they've taken. And you know, Darryl Morey has been 250 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, he's now addressed as publicly. He's gone on 251 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: ninety seven point five FM and Philly much like he 252 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: did during the Ben Simmons trade saga. And and you know, 253 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: Darryl Morey has spelled it out and said that unless 254 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: he gets a star level player back or the pieces 255 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: that can clearly ensure a subsequent trade that lead to 256 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: a star player back that they're not just going to 257 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: give in and trade James Harden. So how uncomfortable? James 258 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Harden is the one who used that word earlier Thursday. 259 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: We're taping this on Thursday night. The Thursday word again 260 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: from James Harden quote, been comfortable for so long, it's 261 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: time to get uncomfortable. How uncomfortable is he prepared to 262 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: make it for the Sixers in camp? I mean, and 263 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: you know that is again a question that not the 264 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: easiest to answer on July twentieth, but understandably the question 265 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: that a lot of people around the league are asking. 266 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: I mean, and b to someone that you've covered closely 267 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: as well, you know, certain what he told Maverick Carter, 268 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean that was, you know, generated its own slew 269 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: of headlines, and understandably so when a player of Embiid's 270 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 2: stature even hints that he might not be in Philly 271 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: for life. But certainly, in my dealings with Joel over 272 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: the years, I mean, my vibe has always been that 273 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: he greatly values what he's built with the Sixers. I 274 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: do think he really wants to win there and break 275 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: through there and not have to go somewhere else. I 276 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: guess I'm not being the super fairest to you today 277 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: in your sweltering abode with no air conditioning by asking 278 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: you to jump in the head of all these guys. 279 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: But what have you made of the whole embiid talk 280 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: surrounding kind of this embid story that has, you know, 281 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: developed out of the Harden story. 282 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: I remember stunt. 283 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: I think I might have told you before m B 284 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: spoke with Rachel Nichols. I believe it was doing it 285 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: was doing Summer League, and he told her that he 286 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: was he wished James Harden mistake and he's trying to 287 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: convince him. I spoke with him over the phone. You 288 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: know it was a private call. Then you know I 289 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: spoke with him on the phone. Believe I told you, 290 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: and he told me that you know, I'm trying to 291 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: get him to stay. He was like, we're just better 292 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: with him than without him. And he doesn't he doesn't 293 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 4: think that they will. He will, they will be able 294 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: to get equal value in return going into next season 295 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: because we know Joel e Bean is trying to win now, 296 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: trying to win now and so that was you know 297 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: that that was between us, but he since said it 298 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: publicly now and so I feel like it's okay to 299 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: reveal that. 300 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: But he said it. 301 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: He said he was trolling when he made the made 302 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: those remarks to Math. But in the trolling, I do 303 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 4: believe there is some light that's being shed a little bit, 304 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: like he's finally like kind of cracking the door open 305 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: to the possibility of leaving, which would only add probably 306 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: a little bit more urgency to the front office to 307 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: make sure they get to make sure they're on their toes, 308 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: making sure they're doing everything that they can to keep 309 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: a winning roster around him, because Jordan bid has went 310 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: through a bunch of different changes throughout his tenure there 311 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: in Philly, a bunch of different marquee players have come 312 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: and gone, So you know, it was only it's only 313 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: right to kind of look at him to see as 314 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 4: he that next superstar Domino to request the trade. So 315 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: even though he said he's troller, I think that he's 316 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: opening up a little bit of a window into what 317 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: the future may bring if things don't change. 318 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: A lot of pressure on the Sixers right now, lots 319 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: of pressure they've got to resolve the hard situation. As 320 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: you say, keeping Joel Embiid happy is priority number one. 321 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: They've made a coaching change, how dramatic a change that 322 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: will be in the team's on court fortunes. Can Nick 323 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 2: Nurse bring in a new approach that drastically changes the 324 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: playoff output of a sixer team and a franchise that 325 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: has not gotten past the second round since two thousand 326 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: and one, since the days of Alan Iverson. We said 327 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: it a lot last season, and we're going to be 328 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 2: saying it a lot more this coming season. Philly is 329 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: under the microscope in a huge, huge, huge way, not 330 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: just with Harden, but now ensuring that Joel Embiid wants 331 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: to stay there and complete the process. We move now 332 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: to the third name of the three, the trio that 333 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: we're monitoring here on Trade Watch. Okay, maybe this isn't 334 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: my smoothest transition, but bear with us. Left my smoothness 335 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: in Vegas, Pascal Siakam, You know, when I was talking 336 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: to various teams at Summer League, some in some corners, 337 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: I heard that the Damian Lillard situation would most likely 338 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 2: have to play out before we got any clarity on 339 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: a Siakam trade destination. And then I heard in some 340 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: other corners that no, it could move independently of Damian Lillard. 341 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: But I will put my hand up and say, I 342 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: really don't know which of those forecasts is going to 343 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: be proven correct. Really, it was just the most consistent 344 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: messaging I got, and I was in Vegas on Trade 345 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: Talk Matters, was you know, it's not just a two 346 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: all star situation. Damian Lillard, yes, James Harden, yes, but 347 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: just make sure that we include Pascal Siakam in his 348 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: future in our forecast. Now, Look, Toronto is so unpredictable. 349 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: I think there are also well placed observers around the 350 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: league who will not be surprised if the Raptors decide 351 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: to keep Siakam. But I will just say me personally now, 352 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: speaking purely for myself, I came away with the impression 353 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: from my various discussions in Vegas that the Raptors do 354 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: want to make at least one more move of significance 355 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: before training camp starts. And I don't think there's any 356 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: shortage of interest in Pascal Siakam. You and I both 357 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: have been talking for ages now about Atlanta's interest. That 358 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: goes back to before the draft the Hawks really like 359 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: the idea of Siakam, but haven't been able to construct 360 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: a trade that Toronto has wanted to partake in. During 361 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Summer League, both Indiana and Orlando emerged as possible destinations. 362 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: But look, this is a very unique situation because, like 363 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: James Harden, Pascal Siakam is only under contract for one 364 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: more season roughly thirty seven to thirty eight million. The 365 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: better half of this podcast, Chris Haynes reported right at 366 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: the draft that you know, Pascal Siakam is not going 367 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: to just re sign with anyone who trades for him. 368 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: To this point, Siakam has expressed that he would like 369 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: to stay in Toronto. He's not looking to force his 370 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: way out of Toronto. So for anyone that trades for 371 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, the question you have to ask answer for 372 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: yourself is how much are you willing to put on 373 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: the table for a guy who has only one year 374 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: left on his deal and might not re sign with you. 375 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the fear, And I think maybe that's 376 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: the hang up as well. 377 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: Why this is taken so long is because teams don't 378 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: feel like they can put their best offers on the 379 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: table because you know, I reported you reported that, you know, 380 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 4: there is a there's a good amount of teams that 381 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: he would not do an extension with and so essentially 382 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: that will be a one year rental and teams that 383 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: want to fork out all of their assets or present 384 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: their best offers for a one year rental player, even 385 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: to the caliber of Pascal. So you know, it's a 386 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: tough situation that Toronto Raptors find themselves in. I can 387 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: definitely see Pascal remaining a member of the Raptors, but 388 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: there's there's still a lot of smoke. 389 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: There's still some teams that's. 390 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: Still making calls to try to see if anything can 391 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: be done. 392 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: But I think we have to look at where we're 393 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: at in the off season. 394 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: You know, as it pertains to Atlanta, that's been a 395 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 4: team that's been primarily linked to Pascal for for a while. 396 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: And you know before when there was talks going on, 397 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: John Collins was a part of some of those talks. 398 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: You know, he's since been been traded. 399 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: Does does does Atlanta have anything Toronto will want at 400 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: this stage? So there does Like if you're asking me 401 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: right now, Stein, do I think he's traded before the 402 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: season or if he's still a member of the Raptors 403 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 4: as of right now, I would lean towards saying I 404 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: think he would will remain a member of the Toronto Raptors. 405 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: And look, I guess the way I approach this is again, 406 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, last season, last off season is still so 407 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: fresh in the memory that that Donovan Mitchell trade materialized 408 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: in September, So there is still time. We're nearing the 409 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: end of July, but you know, there's still lots of 410 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: time before training camp. And look with Toronto there, you know, 411 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 2: I wrote this in my last Around the League notebook, 412 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: there is an inherent skepticism attached to the Raptors now 413 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: about what they want to do on the trade front 414 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: because of what just happened at the last trade deadline. 415 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: All of these guys are almost all of them were 416 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: mentioned as potential trade candidates to some degree, Van Vliet, 417 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 2: Gary Trent, Junior, Siakam and Ananobi less so, but you know, 418 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: people still at least asked the questions and wondered, and 419 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: in the end, Toronto didn't trade anyone and ended up 420 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: making a trade to add win Now talent by bringing 421 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: in Yakub Purdle from San Antonio. And they've since resigned 422 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: Purtle to a four year deal in the eighty million range. 423 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 2: So there is that skepticism out there that you know, 424 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: does Toronto Is Toronto truly prepared to trade Siakam even 425 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: after Van Vliet's departure. But it really, it really depends 426 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: right now on who you ask, and you're gonna get 427 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: a different forecast from almost anyone you hit up on 428 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: this question. All right, friends, I really, I really have 429 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: to cut this off now because you know, when Chris 430 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: and I record these we have a special program reuse 431 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: where we can see each other. Obviously you guys can't 432 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: see us on this podcast, but you know, I'm just watching. 433 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm watching my friend suffer here. And look, the heat 434 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: in Dallas has been absolutely miserable, miserable, like to the 435 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: point where I'm just I'm throwing rackets around the house. 436 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: It is so hot. But our air conditioning works. Poor 437 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: Chris Haynes in Sacramento no air conditioning for I don't 438 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: I've lost track of how many days it's been. But 439 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: this was the case. This was the case before we 440 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: did our Vegas pod and it is still the case. 441 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: And if you could see mister Haynes right now, he 442 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: is not happy with me how long this pod has taken. 443 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: So we have to let him go America and uh 444 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: and and reple replenish himself because this he's been he 445 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: has been putting in the work in this pod. 446 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what's time. I do it for 447 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: our loyal listeners. Anything for my loyal listeners. 448 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: Don That's why you are beloved. You are beloved. I hope, 449 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: I hope nobody rebounds better after this thing drops than 450 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: your air conditioning system. Wishing you all the best, All right, 451 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: everyone that will do it for this edition of this 452 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: league uncut, Stein and Haynes. We will be back with 453 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: you guys soon, precisely when is still TBD. But with 454 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: that three pronged trade watch, who knows who knows when 455 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: something will happen that will demand some immediate reaction from 456 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: your guys. And let's all wish some cooler, cooler, breezier 457 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 2: times in Chris Haynes's life. Everybody, remember, please rate, review, 458 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: and subscribe to this show. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you 459 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: get your pods. Take care, everybody, and try to stay 460 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: cool out there. And that's dreadful sight, and that'll do 461 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: it for us. See you next time. 462 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: This League on Cutage and iHeartRadio production 463 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: Chris Haynes and Mark Stein