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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo call that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that whoo whoom and Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tie, welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is Ty hilden Brand. I am joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my good friend and colleague can co host

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Speaker 1: so many years way over there in beautiful New York City,

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Speaker 1: a fine gentleman by the name of Dan Rubinstein. Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you, Ty?

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Speaker 2: Let's take our time tonight above us as we speak

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Speaker 2: right now, stars are watching, and there is no place

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Speaker 2: and you know this, Tie, I'd rather be in this world.

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Speaker 1: This is Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 2: This is your your eyes, Tie, That's what I'm lost in.

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Speaker 2: You know that underneath that chandelier I know you have

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Speaker 2: is this versace on the floor, Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 1: You really have a good voice. Tie. It's not is

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Speaker 1: that it's not my serious XM voice, but you have

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Speaker 1: a good voice. Well think is that the correct song?

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Speaker 1: That is the correct song? I learn all of these

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Speaker 2: Because I don't listen to the radio, because I take

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny that you should bring that up, because

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Speaker 1: We had a packed house, which is great. The solid

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? What exactly is this? So, by

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Speaker 1: all accounts, verbalers were well nourished at our live event,

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Speaker 1: very well. Where I'm going with this is some people

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Speaker 1: that's right, they do like that, Is this something that

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Speaker 2: You're very good at it, You're scary good. And I

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Speaker 2: will echo what you said. It was a great time.

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Speaker 2: The Fantasy Things Draft went off without a hitch at

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Speaker 2: Hill Country Barbecue. It was so cool to meet people

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Speaker 2: That's right, that lubrication. And I don't want to spoil

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Speaker 1: And I think that loosened everybody up. I think it did.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten hundreds of responses already. We will link up

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Speaker 1: very quickly. T shirts are still on sale for another week.

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Speaker 1: You can find the link to that again by going

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Speaker 1: On that note, Dan, we got to talk more in

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Speaker 1: let's start in the ACC though, Dan, we've got fourteen teams.

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Speaker 1: It's an incredible success story the way that Davos Sweeney's

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Speaker 1: Of course, the question here in twenty seventeen is not

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Speaker 1: Please safe place Dion Kane. He's been a clemser for

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Speaker 1: what two years now. Both years he's been overshadowed by

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Speaker 1: bigger guys with better names. I need five touchdowns as

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Florida State. Then let's do that. How

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Speaker 1: Which they have. You know what that means, though, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Here's the case for Florida State over Alabama. We'll get

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Speaker 2: they show a couple flashes of what's to come with

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Speaker 2: Jeff brom All right, let's pick up the pace a

432
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Speaker 2: little bit because let's go what do we got?

433
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Speaker 1: What do we got? Like eighty five or team to

434
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: get through here? And seems the NC State wolf Pack. Dan,

435
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: I love me some Jalen Samuels at h back whatever bet.

436
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: When we go to NC State? Is this the reflection

437
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: of you thinking they're the fourth best team or they're

438
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: just next for you?

439
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: I am thinking they're the fourth best team in this division?

440
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh division, in this division, not overall? What division is this?

441
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: By the way, should I know what this is? The

442
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: at Atlantic? The Atlantic. I like Jalen Samuels, I like

443
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley. I like both the offensive and defensive lines. Actually,

444
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: I like the entire front seven for NC State secondary

445
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: has some turnover. Secondary is gettable, but presumably teams are

446
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna try and test them out. Hopefully they'll have a

447
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: chance to get themselves in working order before they play

448
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: anyone really good. But I'm high on NC State this year.

449
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm feeling eight and four. Nine and three is a possibility.

450
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: I've done this before where I've gone all in on

451
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: a team. The only real solace for me at this

452
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: point again in mid August, is that a lot of

453
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: folks seem to be in on NC State. It's not

454
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: just me. This is a team that I think has

455
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: been building for a while and Dave Durham might finally

456
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: have something here.

457
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still feel eight and fourish, but a dangerous

458
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: eate and forish. We saw it last year when they

459
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: almost beat Clemson, you know, really should have beaten Clemson.

460
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: And Ryan Finley is efficient. I like Eli Drinkquitz. I

461
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: think he's a good offensive coordinator. He's a Malsan guy.

462
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: He came over from Boise State along with Ryan Finley.

463
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: But still worried about the secondary. Not crazy. I'm not

464
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: as crazy about their offensive line as it sounds like

465
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Speaker 2: you are. And schedule wise, I believe they're on the

466
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Speaker 2: road at Notre Dame before they play Clemson, which is

467
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: it should be a pretty tough one too. They open

468
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Speaker 2: with South Carolina and Charlotte I believe, which, by the way,

469
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Speaker 2: if you're going to that game, or if you just

470
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Speaker 2: are going to Charlotte, or if you live in Charlotte already,

471
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Speaker 2: Fudo Bhuta, I believe is how felieve is the name

472
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Speaker 2: in place in Charlotte.

473
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Speaker 1: It's killer. It's so good, Futo Buddha.

474
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Speaker 2: But to Florida State two pit they have North Carolina

475
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: obviously at home at the end.

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Speaker 1: Of the season. Their defensive line will get them pretty

477
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: far this year. Yeah, I'm just.

478
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Speaker 2: I'm curious about Yeah, I'm curious about offensive efficiency. They

479
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: still feel like eight and four to me, which is

480
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Speaker 2: all things considered, where Dave Doran was a couple of

481
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: years ago, didn't know what his job security was going

482
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Speaker 2: to be. Like, I think it's still a good place

483
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Speaker 2: to be if you are comfortably in a bowl game

484
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Speaker 2: as NC State, with what they're up against in their

485
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Speaker 2: own division, that's a It's a nice little year.

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Speaker 1: They they could snipe somebody too. Absolutely, I think they

487
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Speaker 1: could get somebody lose something stupid win something impressive that

488
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Speaker 1: feels about right to me. All right, quickly, let's go

489
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Speaker 1: to let's go to Wake Forest Dan. Oh, yeah, what

490
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Speaker 1: this is? This is hot? Wake Forest takes right here?

491
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Speaker 1: What is What is the state of affairs with the

492
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: cloth Fens in twenty seventeen?

493
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Speaker 2: Not great, ty, but it's they're almost better. They they

494
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: sm how win games with no offense somehow squarely in

495
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 2: the triple digits. They're like a reverse Oregon where their

496
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: defense has been excellent, or it was excellent last year

497
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: with Mike Elco who moved on to Notre Dame, but

498
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: their offense was really really bad, or like a reverse

499
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. There's some potential at quarterback. I know they

500
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: like Kendall Hinton. He's the sort of more promising of

501
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: the two quarterbacks, A dual threat guy. Skill positions, fine,

502
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: it's not a ton of explosive guys. Defensively is where

503
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: they're going to shine. The front seven is still good

504
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: and their secondary and it's a good year to be

505
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: working in a new secondary. A lot of new names,

506
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: new faces. Schedule is interesting to me.

507
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: They go to Apps State, Hold on, hold on, hold on,

508
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: please sorry, sorry listen, I wrote this down for wake Forest.

509
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: Listen to this eight game stretch between late September and

510
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: late I have this down too. It's a there's a

511
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: buy in there, right, there is a buy in there.

512
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: So it's not not consecutively, but at app State, which

513
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: is a pretty good team, Florida State, at Clemson, at

514
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Loulville, at Notre Dame, at Syracuse and then

515
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Speaker 1: against NC State that the bye the buys before Georgia Tech.

516
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: Yet it's so I didn't write the buydown, but it's

517
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: somewhere around there. That is a murderer's row. If you're

518
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Wake Forest losing a lot on defense at all three levels,

519
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: talk about a heavy lift to get the same level

520
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: of production from your defense, especially against a schedule like that.

521
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say that the

522
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: ACC is going to be pyrotechnic on offense, because, as

523
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: you'll find out shortly once we get to the coastal,

524
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: plenty of teams have their own offensive question marks. But

525
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: suffice to say this is this is a bit of

526
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: a challenge for a wake Forest team that you know

527
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: is turning over a great deal.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how they have to improve too bad

529
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: on offense to make progress. Wake Forest feels like a

530
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: team that is like a hitter who is not a

531
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: good would hit her like a baseball player hitter, but

532
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: he'll foul it off a bunch of times.

533
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: He'll make you earn it. You bringing that for the

534
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: hit and run.

535
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he'll wear you down. They might ground out eventually,

536
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: but he'll he'll make it difficult.

537
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

538
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they again feel like a bold team to me,

539
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: just because of the talent on defense. So I'm gonna

540
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: say six and six for Wake Let's.

541
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Speaker 1: Go to the q S, Dad, we are breaking Shoot,

542
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I am naming Syracuse is my third favorite FBS school

543
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: this fall. Really, so Notre Dame is. Notre Dame is

544
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: still number one. Notre Dame is is Yes, there's still number.

545
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Penn State is two. Yeap, Syracuse I think is my three.

546
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay, So just really aligning yourself with the

547
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: friendliest fan base, that's right, That's right?

548
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, just about everyone's back. Still not a not

549
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of senior leadership on this team, which

550
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: means that next year could really be the year to

551
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: name them my third favorite team, provided, of course, that

552
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't declare for the NFL draft, which is always

553
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: a concern if you're playing football or coaching football at Syracuse. Right, yeah,

554
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna score. There's gonna be a ton

555
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Dino Babers as a bit of

556
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: a track record in the second year. The second year,

557
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: Dino Baber's surge is a real thing. The defense, ah,

558
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about the offense instead.

559
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: That's how it'll be introduced during games. Let's take a

560
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: look who's coming out on the field for the Orange.

561
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Eric Dungee. Right, yeah, I'm excited to

562
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: watch this team play. Defense could be a bit of

563
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: a liability, but that's nothing new. The road schedule is brutal,

564
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: very brutal. I do think that Syracuse will be a

565
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: fun team to watch in some of these spots because

566
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: they go to LSU, which is weird game. We'd game

567
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: for cues to play. But at LSU, oh, it's fine.

568
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: They were they went to Syracuse not too long. That's right,

569
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: that's right. Let's a stranger at LSU, at NC State,

570
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: at Miami, at Florida State, and at Wllville. That's all

571
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: five of their road games at all five are pretty

572
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: damn tough. So I don't know if CUES is a

573
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Bowl team. I'd like to believe that they are, because

574
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: of course you're my third favorite team in twenty seventeen now.

575
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: But they should at a minimum be fun to watch

576
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna score point. Yeah, I think

577
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: they're going to give up more than they score a

578
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: little bit more often. I think the game at LSU

579
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: and then NC State Pitt Clemson and at Miami those

580
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: are in consecutive weeks.

581
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I have down here. Okay, and that's

582
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: tough for this Syracuse team who returns a lot. But

583
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: is that terrific to return I don't know. I don't

584
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: sense it will be all the time. I have Syracuse

585
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: at like four and eight, a fun four and eight,

586
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: but I against this schedule. I don't think they have

587
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: the town talent level yet to really scare anybody that good.

588
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, that's the thing. They might not make a Bowl.

589
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: They'll be fun to watch, though. They'll be fun to watch. Yeah,

590
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Eric Dungeon needs to stay healthy though. That's been the

591
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: tough thing. All right, let's move on to go to

592
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Boston College. Dan b c m hmm. I'd like to

593
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: read a passage if I could m okay, will you

594
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: read it in an accent of some kind? I can't

595
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: do accents. Okay. This is from the wise profit known

596
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: as Doctor Seuss quote. You will come to a place

597
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: where the streets are not marked. Some windows are lighted,

598
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: but mostly they're dark. Okay, is that about Chestnut Hill?

599
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: This concludes my Boston College preview, Dan.

600
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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I will be a little bit lengthier, but

601
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: not much lengthier. Offense is going to be kind of

602
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: a mess. They're going to be not that exciting, but

603
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: they might have a promising young quarterback and Anthony Robinson. Defensively,

604
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: they're going to be very good upfront. The secondary is

605
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: this is a running theme, questionable secondary. Yeah, team, questionable secondary.

606
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: But I do have a dude alert tye.

607
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay. This might be the uh the one

608
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: lighted window at Doctor SEUs saw in.

609
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: This is the one lit window Chestnut Hill. Harold Landry

610
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: defensive end is.

611
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: So good.

612
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: He is scary, he is stupid, He has magnificent He

613
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: reminds me a lot of Vic Beasley if you remember

614
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: from a few years ago at Clemson. Yeah, he's not huge,

615
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: but he's so fast and so relentless. And if we're

616
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: going to talk about Syracuse's defense with Ah, we should

617
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: be talking about Harold Landry plays with.

618
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: That's not nice. That's not nice at all.

619
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: He's so good and the defensive line will be very

620
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: good too. But Harold Landry is He has a pain

621
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: in the ass and I love watching him. So that's

622
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: who you should be paying attention to. The schedule for

623
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: Boston College isn't great. They have Notre Dame and then

624
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: they go to Clemson and consecutive weeks, and then Virginia

625
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: Tech and going two Louisville and consecutive weeks. They're not

626
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: going to be great, but they won a Bowl last year,

627
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: and if a couple of things break correctly, I think

628
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: they go five and seven, six and six, five, then

629
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: everything works out. Yes, ye're yeah, I think five and seven,

630
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: maybe four and eight.

631
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Holy crap. Yeah, you're pretty much going doode alert on

632
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Steve Dazio. Then you're you're buying into well, he is

633
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: the dude of the dood alerts. He is the one

634
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: who started the whole dood alert thing. Yeah. By the way,

635
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: there's a dood alert thread now going on the subreddit.

636
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, put your dudes in there. Huh wow. So

637
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: you're feeling you're feeling okay about this?

638
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: Then I think Boston College will ugly it up against

639
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: somebody and win.

640
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: How about that? Like Louisville, a, Virginia Taulville, right? Or

641
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I don't know that's entirely possible. Do they

642
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: have Notre Dame at home? Or is that a weird like?

643
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Oh, Notre Dame has a road game, let's schedule it

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Speaker 1: move onward now to c an Ees. Canes. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that guy still listen to the show? You think?

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Speaker 2: I don't If he didn't respond the last time we

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Speaker 2: asked for him to respond, I fear that he's passed

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Speaker 2: on listening to our show.

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Speaker 1: Probably well listening to the show. Yeah, yeah. The front

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Speaker 1: sevens loaded, Dan, Yeah, it is. Everybody is back for

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Speaker 1: the Canes Manny Diaz, Wow, just an amazing job in

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Speaker 1: his first year in Coral Gables. Corn Elder's gone in

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Speaker 1: the back. That's that's going to obviously hurt the defense.

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Speaker 1: The secondary has more questions in the front seventh. Front

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Speaker 1: seven is loaded, the real big question here as it is,

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Speaker 1: but just about every team in the coastal. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Miami fans want to know who's playing quarterback. And I

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Speaker 1: think Miami fans wanted to be Nicosi Perry because he's

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Speaker 1: the four stars upside. Yeah, he's a four star guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a true freshman. Mark Rick said a few days

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Speaker 1: either Malik Rosier or Evan Sheriff's. But he hasn't made

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Speaker 1: that decision yet, so I suppose there's still time you

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Speaker 1: could go with Perry. Right now, it looks like Rosier

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Speaker 1: If he is a starter, he can throw to my

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Speaker 1: boy almost my dood alert a Mon Richards, who broke

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Speaker 1: all of Michael Irvin's school records for freshman receiving yardage

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Speaker 1: last year. He's going to be a target out wide.

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Speaker 1: And I like Mark Walton and some of the other

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Speaker 1: key cogs they have there. But the big question is quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Who is playing cour I don't have the answer now,

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Speaker 2: you I didn't know if you were expecting some sort

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Speaker 2: of insight. Now it seems like it's still pretty wide

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Speaker 2: I think the key for Miami is ride that defensive

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Speaker 2: front seven. The secondary is not bad. I think you

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Speaker 2: covered everything good about the skill guys, a little bit

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Speaker 2: worried about the offensive line. So it's good that they

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Speaker 2: have Mark Rick, who has traditionally been very good with

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Speaker 2: developing quarterbacks, and brad Kaya was not world beating, but efficient,

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Speaker 2: I would say for Miami, and sure consistency is good

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Speaker 2: enough for pretty much ninety eight percent of programs. The

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Speaker 2: schedule is not bad. I don't think they play Clemson right, correct.

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Speaker 2: They get Notre Dame and Virginia Tech both at home,

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Speaker 2: I think consecutively after North Carolina on the road. But

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Speaker 2: you know they go to Florida State early on. And

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Speaker 2: the other big name that you left out, I mean

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Speaker 2: many Diaz, excuse me, deserves credit. But Craig Kolangowski defensive

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Speaker 2: line coach, the guy that developed every single one of

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Speaker 2: He is now coaching for Miami, and that is a

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Speaker 2: very good thing for Miami. So I expect them to

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Speaker 2: terrorize a number of teams and maybe win a game

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't because of that front. So I've got nine

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Speaker 2: to three here, Yeah, despite not having a quarterback in place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm feeling Miami in a good way this year.

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Speaker 1: We're going to know a lot about them. In Week

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Speaker 1: three at Florida State, wasn't a.

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Speaker 2: Mon Richards and I think you're right. Wasn't Amon Richards

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Speaker 2: the one who jumped over the Notre Dame corner? That

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Speaker 2: that had to have been a little bit like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that was fine. I'm really glad that you bring up

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Speaker 2: him hurdling a Notre Dame defender. Think my favorite kind

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Speaker 2: That's such a great just photograph all the time.

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Speaker 1: Do you like Miami more than Virginia Tech? It's closed, right,

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think I like Miami better because I like the

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Speaker 2: skill on offense that will surround whoever. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Tech is gonna start Josh Jackson, and I think the

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Speaker 2: offensive line is better in Blacksburg. But I think the

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Speaker 2: better than anything that Virginia Tech does, even though they

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Speaker 2: also have a good front that I think.

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Speaker 1: I like the schedule better. I like Virginia Tech. I do, yeh.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jackson is taking over for Gerrod Evans who left.

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Speaker 1: He has a similar skill set to Gerard Evans. So

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Speaker 1: I would expect that the offense at Tech would look

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Speaker 1: fairly similar to what we saw last year, hopefully a

823
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Speaker 1: little bit more efficient. They still have Trayvon McMillan at

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Speaker 1: a year ago, but they're gonna need more out of him.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need more efficiency out of McMillan if they

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Speaker 1: want to really booy this offense. Because they are experiencing

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Speaker 1: some turnover they lose as they afford. They lose Bucky

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Speaker 1: Hodges in the passing game. They still have Cam Phillips,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of guys with potential and not a

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Speaker 1: on top of it, the right side of the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is being replaced, suffice to say, justin fus in

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Speaker 1: front of him. On offense, I don't worry so much

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Speaker 1: about the defense because they were really good last year.

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Speaker 1: They are young and inexperienced along the line, but it's

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Speaker 1: a party in the back dog. They are loaded in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really Yeah. The linebacking corps is very good.

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Speaker 2: There's huge talent along the defensive line, even though they

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Speaker 2: replace a good amount. Yeah, I feel pretty good. Well know,

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Speaker 2: early on because of West Virginia. And we actually had

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Speaker 2: I think you were correct.

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Speaker 1: His Twitter name was at least labeled as Clay Tiles.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, and he said that I was correct with

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Speaker 2: I disputed it. But in any case, Virginia Tech has

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Speaker 2: Clemson at home. They don't have Florida State. They do

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Speaker 2: to Georgia Tech and Pitt.

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Speaker 1: But otherwise I feel pretty good about Virginia Tech once again.

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Speaker 1: And it's a matter of and I think you hit

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Speaker 1: it is you know, can Josh Jackson developed like Jrod

856
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: Evans did, who was older when he arrived in Blacksburg.

857
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson still a register freshman who has not taken

858
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: an actual snap yet. So maybe they don't win the

859
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: division like they did last year, but they're still a

860
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: dangerous enough team and I think they're they're sort of

861
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: in that eight and four, nine and three. If Josh

862
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Jackson is terrible seven and five. Yeah, And here's the thing,

863
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: justin fluent, they won ten games a year ago. Ten

864
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: wins feels too aggressive of an expectation. But the defense

865
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: again should be good enough to keep them in just

866
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: about every game. And there are a bunch of teams

867
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: in the Coastal that truly could come off the swivel

868
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: and open the doors for TECH, depending on what happens

869
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: at their quarterback situations, because that's a big deal in

870
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: the Coastal this year. They're all looking for new quarterbacks.

871
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: The schedule isn't terrible for a team that's going through

872
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: the kind of rebuild that Tech is going through. I

873
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: think it's it's there. It's potentially their ten wins. I

874
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: don't think it happens. I agree with you. Eight and four,

875
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: nine to three seems much more realistic at this point.

876
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: Also, it's a tough place to play. I know all

877
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: the West Virginia game is in d C, I believe,

878
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: but playing its pit playing against Clemson at home, that's

879
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: that's a tricky place for a green quarterback for Clemson

880
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: against a really good secondary, a pretty good front. If

881
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: you wanted to pencil something in danger wise for Clemson.

882
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: I think it's probably tech on the road.

883
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned Pitt. Let's go to Pitt, Let's go secretly decent?

884
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: Are they again? Yeah? I think they're still in that category,

885
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest. They've got a new quarterback taking

886
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: over for Nate Peterman, and James Connor has now moved on.

887
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: He's playing for the Steelers, and actually I saw he's

888
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: got one of the top selling jerseys in the NFL. Hell, yeah,

889
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: good for him. They also lost their offensive coordinator, Matt

890
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Canada to LSU. There is not a ton of experience

891
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: on defense. They've got Penn State and Oklahoma State in

892
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: the non conference. The silver lining is that they don't

893
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: have to play Florida State, Clemson, or Louisville during the

894
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: regular season Lollville. I could play this a couple different

895
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: ways with Pitt. I trust in Pat Nardouzy to put

896
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: together a defense, even though again not a ton of experience.

897
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: I trust in his abilities to put a defense out

898
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: there that will be competitive and keep the team in games. Offense,

899
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect. I really don't.

900
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the reason, Well, okay, I think there's a

901
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: little bit of clarity on offense because we know Max

902
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Brown is talented, the USC transfer who came over. Sean

903
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: Watson's the new guy calling plays, and not a great

904
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: sign that he tends to leave fan bases disappointed. Didn't

905
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: he leave He left Texas right, yeah, and he was

906
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: in Indiana recently and and sort of helped with quarterbacks.

907
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm curious. I'm curious because Max Brown has weapons. He's

908
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: got Kadri Allison, Quadri Henderson and Jester Wia who are

909
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: i mean underrated, secretly, decent, whatever you want to call it.

910
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: Those are two very good receivers, quality not seen since

911
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: the Larry Fitzgerald Yogi Roth handled that's from the early

912
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: two thousands. Defensively, they got better up front last year,

913
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: but they're replacing everybody and they still gave up way

914
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: too many big plays. Secondary again got a it's a

915
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: bit of a weakness. I'm so worried about this team

916
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: having to win shootouts, so that's my thing. Schedule's nice

917
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: ish because they missed the teams you mentioned, but they

918
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: still travel to Penn State and they have Oklahoma State,

919
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: two teams that will be very eager to throw against

920
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: the secondary. I'm going to say Pitt comes in again.

921
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be just and this seems to

922
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: be the way every year in that seven eight win

923
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: sort of place. I think they're gonna be a lot

924
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: like NC State, but sort of flipped where they're going

925
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: to have these crazy games because of the offensive skill,

926
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: but they're also going to lose something stupid. So I

927
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: have it at because the schedule is relatively advantageous. I

928
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: have them at eight and four, eight and four. Yeah, seven,

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: seven and five is reasonable. Yeah, I feel more seven

930
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: and five than I do eight and four.

931
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: Pitt has had some really nice schedules recent like, oh yeah,

932
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: doesn't it feel like every year when we're doing it

933
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: an ACC preview where it's like Pitt, I don't know

934
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: if they're great, but it's coasting sort of worked out

935
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: Coaston in the coastal. Yeah. I'll also add one final point.

936
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: If Penn State has an opportunity to roll one up

937
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: on Pitt, expect them to pull out all the stops

938
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: and just bear them.

939
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Penn State is won how many now in

940
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: a row against Pitt. I mean it's got to be

941
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: at least it's big That's why I'm the database. Yeah, okay,

942
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: all right, Georgia Tech. Okay, I feel I need to

943
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: recuse myself from Georgia Tech. Do you have a crush, ty, No,

944
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: I have no crush. I've never gotten Georgia Tech right,

945
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: and it does.

946
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: It was comforting to read the Bill Connolly preview and

947
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: realize that he's never gotten Georgia Tech right either. I

948
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: will cover Georgia Tech very broadly. They've got an interesting

949
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: game in Week one against Tennessee mm hmmm, which probably

950
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: means more for Tennessee than Georgia Tech. It just means more.

951
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: They've got an offense that needs a replacement for Justin

952
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Thomas at quarterback. They've got a defense that I got

953
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: to be honest, I looked at it. I am not

954
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: a huge believer. They're relying on a lot of potential

955
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: beyond the secondary, which should just be okay. They also

956
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: played Georgia in the non conference, and they've got a

957
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: road game against Clemson. To me, that is not favorable

958
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: for Georgia Tech's prospects in twenty seventeen. So I am

959
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: not a Georgia Tech believer, which of course means they'll

960
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: probably go nine to three. Where do you stand?

961
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Probably seven and five, eight and four. They very quietly

962
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: went what they ended up nine to four. Last year

963
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: they went five hundred in the conference. I think somewhere

964
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: around there because of the experience. I like the offensive

965
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: skill that they bring back. And here's the key, and

966
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: this is not just key for Georgia Tech, but for

967
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: any team which offensively plays in a very specific way,

968
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: whether it's uptempo, whether it's Georgia Tech with ball control.

969
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: If you give the ball back to Georgia Tech, if

970
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: you were an opponent of the rambling wreck and you

971
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: give the ball back to them, that's brutal. Again, it

972
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: doesn't bring me any pleasure to bring up the Navy

973
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame game last year.

974
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure it gives you no pleasure whatsoever.

975
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: But certainly, the last thing you want to do against

976
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: a ball control team that wants to just physically wear

977
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: you down on the ground is drop the ball onto

978
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: the turf, thrown interception, whatever. And that's what Georgia Tech's

979
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: defense is predicated on. Turning the other team over. That's

980
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: what Texas Tech tries to do and fails to do,

981
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: turning the other team over. You know, putting them in

982
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: bad situations, negative plays, because if they have to play

983
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: you twelve fourteen play drives, whatever, you're just gonna beat

984
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. That's just plain and simple.

985
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: They can't.

986
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: It's tough to come back at times for the for

987
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: the Georgia Techies, for the Yellow Jackets. So I am god,

988
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna beat somebody good and they're gonna lose to

989
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: somebody dumb it. It just feels like a coastal theme.

990
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: So they have pitt in North Carolina. They will probably

991
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: beat one of those teams in consecutive weeks. They are

992
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: on the road against Miami, on the road against Clemson.

993
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about them against either one of

994
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: those teams. But could they beat Virginia Tech again this

995
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: year at home? Maybe Georgia a team that we have

996
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: no idea what to expect. Maybe it's a lot of

997
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: babies on there, a lot of toss ups. Yeah, it's

998
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.

999
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe let's go to North Carolina. Okay, North Carolina is interesting.

1000
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Another team. Tell me if you've heard this one before.

1001
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: The new quarterback in the coastal. Now they lose general

1002
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky, who was drafted very high by the Bears.

1003
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: They also lose TJ. Logan and Elijah Hood. They lose

1004
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer and Bug Howard, so there's some turnover on offense. Defensively,

1005
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: their front seven should be good enough. It's not a

1006
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: lockdown front seven, but it should be pretty solid. I

1007
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: feel confident about five or six wins. But again, these

1008
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: teams that have so much turnover, it's really tough to

1009
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: forecast where you see them going in the near term.

1010
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: I like Larry Fedor. I've always liked Larry Fedor. I

1011
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: think he's a good coach, great abs. Brandon Harris is

1012
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: probably going to be the starting quarterback, and he does

1013
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: not inspire a ton of confidence Dan I saw him

1014
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: at LSU. That does not leave me feeling good about

1015
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: what this team is going to do against. Again, a

1016
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: lot of tweener seven and five, eight and four teams

1017
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: that they're going to play in the ACC. So again

1018
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: kind of on the fence here.

1019
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a reboot year. That's what I

1020
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: think our pal Bill Connolly called it. For North Carolina.

1021
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: It seems like it's a year that Larry Fedora had

1022
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: to really acquaint himself with anybody fast on offense because

1023
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: a lot of new faces like you you Steep, your

1024
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: phil got it, got it.

1025
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, got it.

1026
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: And with Brandon Harris without the continuity at quarterback, I

1027
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be tough a little bit early on.

1028
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to be unproven.

1029
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: The offensive line is pretty good, they add a couple transfers,

1030
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: they still have experience. Defensively, they struggled until Jeane Chiswick,

1031
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: who is now gone. But they're sort of been but

1032
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: don't break e and that's an improvement from where they were.

1033
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: Schedule is tough roads late. I would say tough roads late,

1034
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: but they don't have Florida State or Clemson.

1035
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe.

1036
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: So all things considered, it's good for North Carolina have

1037
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: to have a reboot year this year, Let's go to

1038
00:53:59,520 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 2: their rival.

1039
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Dan. Okay, let's go to Duke the Dukies. Duke to

1040
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: me feels like a poor man Syracuse. What oh. I'd

1041
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: much rather watch Duke than Syracuse this year. Daniel Jones

1042
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: has receivers. The defense is eh. I like Daniel Jones

1043
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: a lot. I think that David Cutcliffe is building for

1044
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: the future at Duke. I think he's doing a pretty

1045
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: good job there. You're talking about Daniel Jones like you

1046
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: talk about a cousin you really get along really well with,

1047
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: but is married to a nightmare. And that nightmare is

1048
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Duke's secondary their defense. Yeah, yeah, it's tough. I like

1049
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: the linebackers. I do like the linebackers for Duke, and

1050
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: they've recruited pretty well. Quietly, they've recruited pretty well on

1051
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Duke doesn't play Syracuse, by

1052
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: the way, which is a bit of well, that makes that,

1053
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: that makes that maybe in the ACC Championship, who knows.

1054
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: But I would feel much better about Duke if I

1055
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: felt better about their secondary. Weird schedule for Duke. Northwestern

1056
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: and Baylor in the non conference they go to North Carolina,

1057
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: which goodyear to go to North Carolina. They have Miami,

1058
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: they don't have Clemson. They go to Virginia Tech. It's

1059
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think they're quietly decent, quietly decent. Yeah.

1060
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I like David Cutcliff a lot. I think he is.

1061
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: I think he's a pragmatic coach. I think he knows

1062
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 2: pragmatic coach. How about that? How about that tie five dollars?

1063
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: Word good for you. Thank you. We've got one team

1064
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: left here. Yeah, I think Duke can get back to

1065
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: a Bowl game. We'll do a long distance dedication here

1066
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Speaker 1: for a good friend Will in Minnesota, who I know,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just in for a long time. He writes

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Speaker 1: and calls in from time to time about UVA. Virginia

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00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: should be decent in its front seven, right. Yes, I

1070
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: like Andrew Brown a lot. There's a lot of good

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00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: young talent, but they are replacing a lot of production

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: on offense and there's just there's just a lot of youth.

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: I think next year will be better for Bronco Mendenhall.

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: We interviewed him shortly after he was hired. He talked

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: to us about naming his kids and a very good

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Speaker 1: natured guy. He was a fun guy to interview, maybe

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Speaker 1: the most fun of any coaches we've had an opportunity

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00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: to speak with here. But it's just going to take

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Speaker 1: a while. There wasn't enough in the cupboard for him

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: to work with, and I think a good place to

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Speaker 1: start this year will be defensively again along that front seven.

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Speaker 1: Virginia could have a couple games this year where you

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: look at the crawl at the bottom of your CBS game.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, and oh, Virginia is within four points of

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Speaker 1: Team X here in the third quarter, late in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter, just because their defense should be pretty solid.

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Speaker 2: Defense should be pretty good. They have an All American

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00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: caliber player in Quinn Blanding. It's big safety who's been

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00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: seems like forever, really good. I like the linebackers, They're

1090
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: still pretty young. Secondary, even with Blanding is kind of mixed.

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: Road slate is it's pretty tough. They go two Boise

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: State early on. They have North Carolina pitting Wolville and

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00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: I think Miami on the road. So offensively, they need

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Speaker 2: to do something. They need a spark somewhere, and I

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: don't I honestly don't know where it's coming from. The

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00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: skill positions are not that great, the line isn't great,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback isn't great. So they're gonna have to win

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: some ugly, ugly matchups.

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Speaker 1: There you have it, fourteen teams up, fourteen teams down. Dan,

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Speaker 1: what is your ACC Championship game? I'm I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go a rematch between Miami and Florida State. So

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Speaker 1: you're not going Clemson. I'm not going Clemson. Obviously was

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00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: that hard for you because I feel like you really

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Speaker 1: like you want to pick Clemson, but your mind is

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Speaker 1: telling you otherwise.

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Speaker 2: You know what, No, I'm selling gonna go Florida State.

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Speaker 2: Let me look at Florida State schedule once again. I

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: have in front of me Florida States schedule is it's

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Speaker 2: pretty good. Even though they're at Clemson at Florida will

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00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: not affect their acc standing. So I am going to

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Speaker 2: stay with Florida.

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Speaker 1: I like Florida State against Miami. I could see it

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Speaker 1: being Virginia Tech, but right now I favor Miami because

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00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: I like their defense a little bit more than I

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00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: like Virginia Techs. And I trusted Mark Rick's ability to

1116
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: develop a quarterback right that game's at Miami too. Game

1117
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: is at Miami. What I will say about Florida State

1118
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: is because of their strength of schedule. And I've seen

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00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: this post it in a couple places. Actually today, I

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00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: was going to say it before I read it. I

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Speaker 1: promised you this is a team that even if they

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00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: have two losses, they could lose to Alabama week one,

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Speaker 1: they could lose another game along the way and still

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Speaker 1: be viewed highly enough by the Playoff Selection Committee that

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Speaker 1: they could be a choice to make it into that

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Speaker 1: final four if they win the ACC. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's on the table for them to be selected,

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Speaker 1: maybe with two losses, if it should come to.

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Speaker 2: That, right, Okay, could happen. Okay, I'm rooting for the

1130
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Speaker 2: Knowles this year. Who is the ACC Offensive Player of

1131
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 2: the Year? And you can't say Lamar Jackson? Damn you ready,

1132
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you mine first. I'll give you another second

1133
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: to think about you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Here it is Quadri Henderson, your boy, Pittsburgh

1135
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: Panthers love him. If I can't say Lamar Jackson, come on,

1136
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: there's a couple of good running backs here. Yeah, Walton, No,

1137
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Deon Kane is your dude. I could

1138
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: go Deon Kane. But are you a full believer in

1139
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant. No, I'm not. See that's the problem. I'll

1140
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: say DeAndre Francois.

1141
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: DeAndre france Wall Okay, defensive player of the Year. And

1142
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: you can't say no, you can't say Derwin James, Harold Landry.

1143
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I'm gonna go Harold Landry. Ah, Yeah, I'm

1144
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: gonna go Harold Landry. He had sixteen and a half

1145
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: sex last year. He's very good. He is very good

1146
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: at football. Another defensive name I like a lot. Wake

1147
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: Forest has a defensive end named Duke, which is very

1148
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: confusing for me. Tied to EDG four, I believe, and

1149
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: he was very productive last year and I think he

1150
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: will be again super fun to watch.

1151
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: You can say the complicated ACDC names this year. Okay,

1152
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: I said pragmatic tie and I pronounced it correctly. There

1153
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: you have it. So we're both going Florida State ACC. Cool.

1154
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Who's the worst team in the ACC this year? Virginia?

1155
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: I think I think we agree. We agree Virginia close second?

1156
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: I think is Boston College? Okay? All right, go on uva,

1157
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Speaker 1: well writ in. Let us know what you think. We

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Speaker 1: are at Solid Verbal on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook.

1159
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Speaker 1: Do comment in the subreddit which some of our loyal

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1161
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Speaker 1: in on that before the college football season gets rolling.

1162
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Speaker 1: We do have a pickham pool which I promised to

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Speaker 1: Where it out to Your favorite college football team's next

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Speaker 1: game will probably have those. Have those out to you

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Speaker 1: around mid September or so. And the only other bit

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Speaker 1: of homework we have in addition to going out to

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Speaker 1: the Facebook in the iTunes pages to review the show

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Speaker 1: give us a five star review. Of course, the only

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Speaker 1: other homework item right now is take the survey. Take

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Speaker 1: the survey, let us know where you're at. Most importantly,

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Speaker 1: let us know where you would come to see a

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Speaker 1: hypothetical Soliverble Live show if we should decide to take

1180
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: this whole thing on the road. Chicago's a no brainer.

1181
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta is a no brainer. DC. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: no brainer. I like people he see's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Figure out a Texas show. I would say the Texas

1184
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Speaker 1: show is probably a no brainer as well. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how we're gonna do this by the way,

1186
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: logistically speaking, but as it relates to just hypotheticals, we'll

1187
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Speaker 1: take the old fashioned chow choo. We could add a

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Speaker 1: fourth city in Texas somewhere, and then there's a battle

1189
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Speaker 1: royale going on out in the West Coast between La

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Seattle. And unfortunately, the West Coast is

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Speaker 1: rather long, so I don't know if there's a centrally

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Speaker 1: located spot that everyone can get to easily. But if

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Speaker 1: we were going to add a fifth city right now,

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Speaker 1: it would probably be one that could accommodate those verballers.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go to Santa Maria, California. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Split the difference beween Ali and San Francisco, the home

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Speaker 2: of Tri Tip Barbecue. Tri Tip that's where we'll do

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Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, all right, well, let us know again

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Speaker 2: take the survey. If there's anything else that we missed

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Speaker 2: by all means solidverbal at gmail dot com is the email.

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Speaker 1: Oh we've got serious XM too, We do, Dan, It's

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Speaker 1: funny that you should bring that up. I was just

1203
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Speaker 1: gonna get to our kapper on our acc preview. He

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Speaker 1: lists ladies and gentleman. Welcome back Serious XM. The Solid

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Speaker 1: verbal e at eight. Give us a call on the

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Speaker 1: Dave Davis Dental hotline. We're talking acc am I crazy?

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Speaker 1: Or can Clemson repeat? The new guy might be even

1208
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: better than Watson, or so I've heard from some people

1209
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: who know. Can Jimbo make a run this fall? He's

1210
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: got the talent down there in tallahass no doubt about it.

1211
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Speaker 2: Are we forgetting about Lamar Jackson? A lot of people

1212
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: already don't remember that he on the Heisman Trophy?

1213
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: For Christ's sake? Will the coastal be all about the you?

1214
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: As they say? Gotta love what Mark Rick has been

1215
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: doing down there, no doubt about it. A lot of

1216
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: people jumping on the NC state bandwagon? Are you? Huge question?

1217
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: That's for sure? Can North Carolina rebound part in the

1218
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: basketball term and get back to competing on the big stage?

1219
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: A lot of eyes on the heels. Paul Johnson STU

1220
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: were running that option? But is he running out of

1221
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: options in Atlanta? A huge question, no doubt about it.

1222
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: What about Justin Bowne and the Hokies? Can they ride that?

1223
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Speaker 1: Bud Foster blue collar, lunch pail, gritty, keep your head down,

1224
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Speaker 1: Jim rat manual labor, coal mining, time clock, working class, manufacturing, physical,

1225
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Speaker 1: double shift, hard labor, defense, big question, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And Who's gonna shock the world? Virginia Boston College, Wake

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Speaker 1: Forest Pitt Syracuse. Dude, my money's on one of them,

1228
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Speaker 1: and once again eighty eight, nine, nine, nine, ten, ten,

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Speaker 1: give us a call him the Dean Davis Dental hotline.

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Speaker 1: And because you requested it, and because he lives in

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Speaker 1: my pocket, Bruno mummers Ah, I see what you did there.

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Speaker 1: That's why you use those lyrics at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show. Ty It's full circles. That's what the experts

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Speaker 1: call it, the circle of life. On the verbal you

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Speaker 1: like Bruno Mars. I think Bruno Mars is huge. Bruno

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Speaker 1: Mars fan, we are cool old people, Tye. On that note,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to the show. Tell

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Speaker 1: your friends, review the show, send us email, send us tweets,

1239
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Speaker 1: send us whatever you got. We are rounding into form

1240
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Speaker 1: here as college football season gets ever so close in

1241
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Speaker 1: the window, We're gonna be publishing our Fantasy Things Live show.

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Speaker 1: I'll taste of what our friends had to bear witness

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Speaker 1: to this past weekend on Sunday. We will be back

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday. We're going to talk some sec oh and

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01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: then probably going to publish another show on the weekend.

1246
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: Gonna get another one out there because we got to

1247
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Speaker 1: talk PAC twelve before we actually start previewing games. I

1248
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Speaker 1: am excited. Ty. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: There were times this summer because I had a very

1250
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: very distracted summer, getting married, going on my honeymoon, Sure,

1251
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Speaker 2: a lot of naps, Sure that I didn't know how

1252
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: I felt about this upcoming season. I know, but in

1253
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: the last few days, the invigoration is real.

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Speaker 1: So let's do this for that guy over there, my

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Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We'll catch

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