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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on a Tuesday. Whereas always,

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Speaker 2: we have got plenty to get into. Matt, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's any need to really tee it up today.

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Speaker 2: The moment that everyone had been waiting for Mike tomlin

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Speaker 2: weekly Tuesday press conference of course at noon every single

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Speaker 2: Tuesday here on the Steelers Audio Network, and we're all

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Speaker 2: kind of waiting with baited breath to see what the

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Speaker 2: update would be on one Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead and reveal it. I did not listen

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Speaker 3: to the press conference, but I did see the headline,

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Speaker 3: and that's about as much as I know it to

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Speaker 3: the moment too. But I'm sure some listeners have heard

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Speaker 3: the news, but little inconclusive at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly right. That's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 2: And let's hear straight from the source. Here's what Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin had to say today about Aaron Rodgers' status for

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Speaker 2: Sunday against the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: Aaron's got a fracture in his wrist. It does not

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Speaker 4: require surgery. Really is just about bracing it and securing

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Speaker 4: it for his comfort and safety. And then it's about

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Speaker 4: how functional he is. And so we don't have the

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Speaker 4: answers to that as we say in here today, but

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Speaker 4: certainly I would imagine we will get some clarity as

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Speaker 4: we push through the week. I think his experience really

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Speaker 4: kind of aids in that he's the type of guy

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Speaker 4: lot of physical work and an effort to be ready

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Speaker 4: to play, and that's helpful in the meanwhile, certainly it'll

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Speaker 4: provide opportunities for Mason and Will to get quality work

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Speaker 4: as we start the week, and I think that's the

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Speaker 4: posture that we're in a little later in the week,

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Speaker 4: we'll take a look at erin and again, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: the variables are stabilizing it and making sure that he's

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Speaker 4: safe and he can protect himself, brace himself as he falls,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. Pain tolerance, but that doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 4: an issue with Aaron. He wanted to go back in

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Speaker 4: the game on Sunday. And then lastly, obviously how effective

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Speaker 4: he can be. And so you know, Friday's probably a

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Speaker 4: big day in terms of some of those things. I

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Speaker 4: know he's working his tail off to to to be

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Speaker 4: a component of this this week. He and I talked yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He expressed that directly, I'm of the mindset of supporting

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Speaker 4: that while at the same time I got a help

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Speaker 4: be collective of guys as a team and as a

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Speaker 4: unit to ready in the meanwhile, that would be our mindset.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, Matt. Yeah, a fracture in the

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Speaker 2: wrist for Aaron Rodgers, but still leaving the much like

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Speaker 2: red roof in leaving the light on first Sunday in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: And I think we touched on this a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But you know how badly he wants to play in

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Speaker 2: this game, I mean I think right, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's Ben Roethlisberger versus Brown's type ownership from a from

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Speaker 2: a future Hall of Fame quarterback. And I think for him,

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Speaker 2: probably the opener in the rematch against the Jets was

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Speaker 2: one he had circled on his schedule coming into this year.

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Speaker 2: The reunion with the Packers on Sunday Night football. Those

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Speaker 3: I bet it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Captain obvious he's going to do everything he

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Speaker 3: It's it's cool obviously that they he lands on the

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Speaker 2: Had Minnesota and the Vikings in Dublin was probably high

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Speaker 3: Right, so got the Lions, you know, right? I mean,

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Speaker 3: so you're gonna play the whole North that he's had

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Speaker 3: now some faces of change, a lot of faces of change,

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Speaker 3: especially Inaga. Yeah, but he's the Steelers have not had

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Speaker 3: So all that being said, you're not putting them out

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Speaker 3: Tomlin wouldn't say that on Tuesday, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you're I think you're spot on

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Speaker 2: that yeah, yeah, and so Tomlin also later on, you know,

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Speaker 3: They rule him out Friday, they could.

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Speaker 2: But again, with a guy in his status and his

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Speaker 3: Same as like Cam Heyward. I mean, it's not even

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Speaker 2: I think that there's a at least very good chance

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Speaker 2: is going on Sunday like a true game time decision.

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Speaker 3: That sounds very possible. I mean I'm sure that they'll

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Speaker 3: mess with different splints or whatever you know he's most

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Speaker 3: that I know a lot about it, but would you

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Speaker 3: handing off with your splinter, your brace of choice, you know,

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Speaker 2: As much as we know that Aaron Rodgers was bothered

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Speaker 2: by his league mandated helmet change that he had to make, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would think so, you know, more than just a

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Speaker 2: Or even even for a twenty year veteran future Hall

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Speaker 2: day and now the bullets are flying, and let's see,

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Speaker 2: that's a great point by you. I would think at

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Speaker 2: least even in a small capacity, he would want to

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Speaker 2: get under center with Zach Fraser a few times, get

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Speaker 3: In, yeah, and do some handoffs. How do I hold

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Speaker 3: I don't think he needs the practice time. I don't

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Speaker 2: Know, but more so you're right wrist brace, you know

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Speaker 2: whatever that's exactly gonna look like. I know I made

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Speaker 2: this reference I think to yesterday. It's it's not the

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Speaker 2: same as like Patrick Willis. Just just put a whole

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Speaker 2: and still tackle people who cares that that center quarterback

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were also schefter reports that it was

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Speaker 3: a minor break or whatever. I mean, we knew that

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Speaker 3: So it makes me think it's maybe a one game

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Speaker 2: We think so because those the Shifters and the Rapaports

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Speaker 2: and the Tom Pellisaro's of the world, big national insider

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Speaker 2: guys have all stated yesterday and today that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: wants to play, you know, he's gonna do everything he

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Speaker 3: And Coach said that too. It's not a toughness pain issue.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's going to work through that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so if you made me guess right now,

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Speaker 2: I would lean towards he plays.

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Speaker 3: But I was thinking the same. But I'm also with

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Speaker 2: I'm also with you that if it's anywhere close to

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Speaker 2: give I know it's a tough one for him to miss,

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Speaker 2: but give him an extra week because you got bigger

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Speaker 3: I think so too. I would definitely error on the

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Speaker 3: side of caution. But if he's comfortable out there, great,

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Speaker 3: you know absolutely, and hey maybe, and there's also the

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Speaker 3: different than the other week, you know, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: man option number two gives you no chance to win, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, exactly right. It's not Joe Flacco to Jake Browning.

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Speaker 3: No, right, right, Like we saw this show and it

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So that's kind of where we start today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a little bit of a shorter opening

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Speaker 2: segment here because we want to talk to our buddy

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Speaker 2: Chris Adamski all things Aaron Rodgers related and moore with

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Speaker 2: Chris when we return on the other side, his thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Aaron's status for Sunday, as well as guys like

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Speaker 2: more as we roll along. Was sheeler Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive. Here is a Tuesday with plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to, plenty to parse through from the weekly

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin press conference, particularly as it relates to injury

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Speaker 2: updates for Alex Heismith, for Jalen Warren, for Darius Slay,

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Speaker 2: some key members of this team, but of course chief

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Speaker 2: most amongst them the future Hall of Fame signal caller

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers joining us now to discuss all this and more.

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Speaker 2: Kris Adamsky covers the Steelers for the trib and of

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Speaker 2: course is the co host of the Steelers' Blitz here

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Speaker 2: at noon on the Steelers Audio Network Buzz. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for taking the time as always, and let's jump right

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Speaker 2: into it as we stand here today on Tuesday. Plenty

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Speaker 2: can change by Sunday, obviously, but how you're feeling, how

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Speaker 2: are you leaning in towards Aaron Rodgers' status, his availability

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Speaker 2: for Sunday in Chicago against the Bears.

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Speaker 5: Man, you know, you hate to read too much into

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Speaker 5: what Mike Tomlins says on Tuesday, because there's both. It's

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Speaker 5: early in the week. He's sort of intentionally vague a

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Speaker 5: lot of times, and cynic my day sometimes even puts

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Speaker 5: out some misdirection. But to me he signed more and

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Speaker 5: more optimist stick then I anticipated heading into the day.

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Speaker 5: Tomlin's presser, I wouldn't have thought it was likely. It

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Speaker 5: and second down back, you know, in that in that

434
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Speaker 5: realm and certain certainly in small sample sizes. So I

435
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Speaker 5: would I if I'm sitting here right now, I'd say

436
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Speaker 5: probably Warren will play and again trade because the week

437
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 5: everybody's consternation was Warren's not played enough. But you know

438
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Speaker 5: it might be back to that again, Warren's you know,

439
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 5: maybe gain Well. You know who might who take the

440
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 5: first snap a quote unquote starter doesn't matter, but you know,

441
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Speaker 5: game well plays. You know, it's a it's just maybe

442
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Speaker 5: a sixty thirty ten type game with Gainwell, Warren, Caleb

443
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Speaker 5: Johnson or something like that. In terms of the snapshirt

444
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Speaker 5: running back.

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Speaker 3: Chris, last thing I got for you is cornerback. Now.

446
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we know Porter's playing really well. He's in

447
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Speaker 3: me an outside guy. I think eccoles is very securely

448
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: the Nickel, But I think there's still there's three candidates

449
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: to be the other starter. I mean, does Slay go

450
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Speaker 3: right back into the starting role? Pierre's played really well lately.

451
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Speaker 3: Could he have you know, taken that job? And Sante

452
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: Samuel is still looming?

453
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I you know, I felt for for weeks

454
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Speaker 5: kind of the you know, awkwardness in terms of Sleigh,

455
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Speaker 5: in terms of you know, his career resume and get

456
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Speaker 5: him hinto everything, and you know that the pride of

457
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Speaker 5: a of a veteran like that. Do they just go

458
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Speaker 5: to him and tell him he's bench?

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Speaker 3: I don't, you know?

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Speaker 5: And Tom and publicly there and then the press conference

461
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Speaker 5: today was to the affirmative that Slay will be the

462
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Speaker 5: starter again or he turned it or yeah he's he

463
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Speaker 5: said that now. He did say certainly Pierre's ear earned

464
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Speaker 5: to stay in the field too, or something to that effect,

465
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Speaker 5: and he reiterated that later. So what does that mean?

466
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Speaker 5: Does that mean you know they alternate theories? Does that mean?

467
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you kind of go about that.

468
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 5: I there, of course, everybody up and down the organization

469
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Speaker 5: has been complimentary for good reason with how Pierre played

470
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Speaker 5: these this last game and a half when he's been

471
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Speaker 5: in there and you know, so I don't know, I

472
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Speaker 5: mean Samuel. The thing about Samuel wasn't you know people said, oh,

473
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Speaker 5: dugger came right, but yeah, but that was he had

474
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Speaker 5: been playing NFL football and it in football shape for

475
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Speaker 5: went through our training camp, went through you know, six

476
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Speaker 5: weeks of practice at that point, and Samuel mean hasn't

477
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Speaker 5: played an NFL game in fourteen months and now only

478
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Speaker 5: has what practice, you know, he had six practices under

479
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Speaker 5: his belt in terms of NFL. Actually, I know he

480
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: could stay in shape and all that, but it's a

481
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Speaker 5: little bit different to throw you an NFL game. So

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Speaker 5: I could see maybe Samuel getting you know, in uniformly

483
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Speaker 5: get a hat this week, but I don't know if

484
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Speaker 5: I don't think it'll roll them out there as your

485
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Speaker 5: as you'r you know, a quote unquote starter or outside

486
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Speaker 5: you know, regular corners necessary, but you know it might

487
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Speaker 5: not even need it because you have per right now.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I would probably coming back.

489
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Speaker 5: So I am curious to see assume he gets just

490
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Speaker 5: slay in Pierre, and I am curious to see how

491
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Speaker 5: that plays out in terms of because we saw, you know,

492
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Speaker 5: before they moved everybody and Douger got here, and Ramsey

493
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Speaker 5: went back to the safety that a couple of games

494
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Speaker 5: there were Echoles was almost in a pretty much time

495
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Speaker 5: share on the outside spot with Sleigh, So I would

496
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Speaker 5: imagine it wouldn't be any too much different than that. Maybe,

497
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Speaker 5: you know, however, you want to say at a kind

498
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Speaker 5: of a fifty to fifty and if you know, saw

499
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Speaker 5: a couple of games over the season where Slave had

500
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Speaker 5: had some rough govick it and beat a couple of times,

501
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Speaker 5: and then Eckles played more, and maybe that's what happened

502
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Speaker 5: Sunday is if you know, maybe Slaves played, you know,

503
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Speaker 5: played if exsumeing he's clear of course played the first

504
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Speaker 5: series and there are struggles, then you see more and

505
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Speaker 5: more Pierre the rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: Chris, one more real quick before we let you go.

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Speaker 2: We got the news last night that Jamar Chase will

508
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Speaker 2: be suspended for a game by the National Football League

509
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Speaker 2: for that spinning incident with Jalen Ramsey in the third

510
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Speaker 2: quarter at Akershur Stadium on Sunday. In your mind, fair

511
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Speaker 2: suspension should have been a little bit more harsh, you know,

512
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Speaker 2: we there was some precedent for this week one of

513
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Speaker 2: the season with Jalen Carter and what happened between the

514
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Speaker 2: Eagles and Dak Prescott and the Cowboys there. But that

515
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: was right after the opening kickoff, so he essentially missed

516
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Speaker 2: the entire game. They decided not to suspend them. After

517
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Speaker 2: the fact, they said that that kind of served as

518
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Speaker 2: a as a pseudo suspension him missing that entire game.

519
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: You think that this is again one game kind of

520
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: the the a fair punishment for what transpired, or you

521
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Speaker 2: maybe were thinking, hey, this is something that the league's

522
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Speaker 2: got to nip in the bud and could have been

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Speaker 2: a little more heavy handed with that suspension.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people say precedent based off that Week one, and

525
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Speaker 5: you know, essentially that was time served one full entire

526
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Speaker 5: game and everything. I don't know how much or even

527
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Speaker 5: if you know the CBA involved union, i'd police can

528
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Speaker 5: factor into it. But remember after that game, Carter was

529
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Speaker 5: really contrite and you know, opened it and you know,

530
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Speaker 5: apologized and and all that after that game against Dallas,

531
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Speaker 5: and and I mean to me that I don't see

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Speaker 5: that it is not the most is going part. I

533
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Speaker 5: guess there's a good norm McDonald uh ran about saying

534
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 5: that's not the worst get into that joke. But you know,

535
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Speaker 5: the worst part with the spit, the worst part is

536
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Speaker 5: not the hipocrisy. The worst part is the spit itself. However,

537
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Speaker 5: you know, for him to kind of flat out deny it,

538
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Speaker 5: it's also not only is that not too good character touch,

539
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Speaker 5: it's pretty stupid because yeah, there's nobody camera, you know,

540
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Speaker 5: to think you can you could get away with it.

541
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Speaker 5: It's it's not very smart to not be you know,

542
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Speaker 5: could carry out to the game. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: that can factor in by the rules in the in

544
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Speaker 5: the CNBA and or if that will factor in or

545
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Speaker 5: not you know, or could have factored. And I mean

546
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Speaker 5: it's you know, according to what the NFL network report

547
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Speaker 5: to the the planned defenses, that I was trying to

548
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Speaker 5: spit down and not toward him.

549
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Speaker 3: Or what come on, what.

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Speaker 5: Are we doing here? So in that sense, but it's

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Speaker 5: it's kind of wild that, I mean, I don't know,

552
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 5: you remember, I mean, we've all been watching football whole live.

553
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 5: You remember the last spinning incident during a game that

554
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: now we've had to do it a span one even

555
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 5: you know, it's just like it's wow to think that

556
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Speaker 5: we have to we have to nip this in the

557
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 5: bud with grown adults to say. But yeah, but I

558
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Speaker 5: guess where we're at right now, you know.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Chris Damski kind of enough to join us

560
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: here on a Tuesday. Make sure you're checking out all

561
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: his work in the trib and of course listening to

562
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: him and our buddy Tom opp froman at noon every

563
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Speaker 2: day on these Steelers Audio Network buzz. Thank you for

564
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: the time. Great stuff is always man and we'll talk

565
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: to you soon.

566
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Speaker 5: All right, take care, guys. Talking again.

567
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Speaker 2: There he goes Chris Adamski with uh, all the latest

568
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: on all the moving and shaking. Yeah, that was the

569
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Speaker 2: only thing for me, Matt, like, I've you know how

570
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: protective rightfully, So this is how any billion dollar business

571
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: is of their brand, of their logo. For the NFL,

572
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: we always call it the shield. That was my only

573
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: thing is I could see them being like, all right,

574
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Speaker 2: this is the second time this year. Yes, spitting incident

575
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: has dominated the news cycle the day after a game.

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Speaker 3: We got to that, we got to really send a message,

577
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Speaker 3: you know.

578
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: So I think the one game is fair, but I

579
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Speaker 2: also wouldn't have surprised me if there was more.

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one is the right situation. You know,

581
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: and that's that's a.

582
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Speaker 2: I mean, is it's only seventeen games, and it's right

583
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's not baseball or basketball or hockey where

584
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: there's you know, eighty some or one hundred and sixty

585
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: seven games. Yeah, I tell you right now, I gotta

586
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be in the off season maybe something

587
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: that they will try and work it, or maybe the

588
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: next CBA something like that that they try and work into.

589
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: Some sort of clause in there, clear.

590
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Speaker 2: Guidelines of like if you do this, there will be

591
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: zero tolerance and we can't be having that. Matt, a

592
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: few more things from Mike Tomlin's weekly press conference that

593
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Speaker 2: I want to get into. I also want to talk

594
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Speaker 2: about some of that stuff in the secondary that you

595
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: brought up there with a damn ski. We'll do all

596
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Speaker 2: of that when we return on the other side. To

597
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Speaker 2: close down, the first hour of the show was Shooler

598
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Speaker 2: Matt Williams and it's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

599
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here and a big thanks to

603
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Speaker 2: Chris Danski for joining us once again, and Matt, I

604
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: did want to discuss a few things further, some interesting

605
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: discussion points that you brought up with Chris and just

606
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Speaker 2: kind of some final crossing of the t's and dotting

607
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Speaker 2: of the eyes from the Mike Tomlins press conference.

608
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Speaker 3: It's a lot we haven't quite touched on, you know.

609
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: So we gave the specific updates for Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Warren.

610
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Speaker 2: Let me just set the scene here for what was

611
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: the Warren Warren if he will be limited at first

612
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Speaker 2: in the week, but we're optimistic he'll play on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I knew he came back and maybe

614
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: could have finished the game, and you know that that

615
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: But if it's divisional round this weekend, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: there's you know, not much of a of a big

618
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: picture concern there, but obviously being where you're.

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Speaker 3: At, maybe he doesn't practice Wednesday or you know, and

620
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Speaker 3: which would make all the sense in the world to.

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Speaker 2: Me, absolutely, And is a Damski mentioned maybe he's on

622
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a pitch count, a little bit

623
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Speaker 2: of a snap count on Sunday. Will obviously monitor the

624
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Speaker 2: the injury reports on on Thursday and Friday for you

625
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Speaker 2: like we always do.

626
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Speaker 3: Maybe you activate a running back that's good on special

627
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: teams too, or you know something like that. Now those

628
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: they've done that.

629
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Speaker 2: End sermons back on the practice squad. So yeah, they've

630
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: got that that option. Cole Holcome should be back this week,

631
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Speaker 2: according to Mike Tomlin good, which is good. Hopefully he's okay.

632
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's been a long term thing that he's

633
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: been dealing with illness. Something's going around. Yeah, I'll be careful.

634
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Something's going around. TV's locked in over there. He's not

635
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: laughing at me.

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Speaker 3: So I wonder we saw about twelve snaps of the

637
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Speaker 3: three inside linebacker package something like that. It was I

638
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: think that might have been right. Harrison's a lot different.

639
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I mean, to pull that off, I think you want

640
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Speaker 3: one of them to kind of be a hammer, like

641
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Speaker 3: a Harrison. I wonder if Hulcombe would get any run

642
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: in that because Queen and Wilson aren't coming off the field.

643
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: Is that a Harrison specific thing?

644
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

645
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm just curious.

646
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Speaker 2: You're right, Typically, like when we've seen them do that

647
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: in years past, it was always Mark Robinson. Yeah, like

648
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: the thumper, the hammer type.

649
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: You're the downhill key, the run guy.

650
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Speaker 2: I think, particularly against teams like the Ravens and the

651
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Lions and the Eagles, and you know, teams that you

652
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: know are predicated on running the football, Cole Holcomb has

653
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: a more well rounded skill set. I don't think that's uh, I.

654
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: Don't think that's that's a debatable. I mean, he's the

655
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: backup to both starters. Yes, the second he's.

656
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: Helping without it, without a door. But in terms of

657
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: that specific package, I think you might be right. I

658
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: think that might be a you're looking for different skill

659
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: sets amongst the group when you deploy them in that regard.

660
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: Because I know we'll get into this more bright in

661
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: the second hour. But I think a big reason for

662
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: it is now they're playing more too high, more defensive

663
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: backs away from the line of scrimmage. So I want

664
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: one of my guys that is your line of scrimmage

665
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: to be a little bigger, stronger thumper. You know, makes sense, right, Yeah,

666
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: especially against Jonathan Taylor, you.

667
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Know, right, absolutely absolutely.

668
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: But it's not like the Bears don't run the ball

669
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: reasonably well too, and you know they do. Jase Brown

670
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: was coming on pretty good too.

671
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like they don't have a Jonathan

672
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Taylor Josh Jacob's type name in the backfield, but that

673
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: offense is doing everything effectively right now.

674
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: In my hunch, that three inside line packer package is

675
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: here to stay in some capacity. You might see three

676
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: snaps one game twelve fifteen and next I don't know.

677
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely you'll see it more probably against Baltimore, Yeah,

678
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: you know than you would against Cincinnati. Yeah, I would think,

679
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: but certainly something to keep an eye on.

680
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: But that might be Harrison specific. The more I think

681
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: through it, that.

682
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: Would make sense. Yeah, it would make sense. And hopefully

683
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: with Cole Holcomb back in the fold, maybe we'll get

684
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: the answer to that. On Sunday. Alex high Smith will

685
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: be limited to start the week and they'll monitor his progress.

686
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean obviously they're very equipped to move on

687
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: or you know, to survive without him. I mean Herbig's

688
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: a stud.

689
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: Yep sway, or you're getting more and more comfortable with

690
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: him being out.

691
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: Playing better and better too. I mean again, I thought

692
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: the bottom of the roster really stepped up in this

693
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: game across the board. But I don't think anyone thinks

694
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: Highsmiths not a very good player too, right, you know right.

695
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: He is certainly, even as much as we all love herbig,

696
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: you'd love to have all three in the fold.

697
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

698
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: And finally, Matt Darius Slay with the concussion should be

699
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: back this week.

700
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: Usually it's a one game miss at this point unless

701
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: it's a severe you know, easy for me to say,

702
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: but I mean, we.

703
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Didn't just see c. J. Stroud miss two weeks with one.

704
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: For the most part, You're right.

705
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: Usually it's next game.

706
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: It's a you know, a take a week off and

707
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: then return. And then that raises the question speaking of

708
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: bottom of the roster guys who played well, I think

709
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: if you were writing that story you would start talking

710
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: about James Pierre and the opening paragraph and what he's

711
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: done the last couple of weeks and specifically on Sunday

712
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: against perhaps the best wide receiver tandem in the National

713
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: Football League. But according to Mike Tomlin, it sounds like

714
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: Slay will return. That's something that a Damski touched on

715
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: too when you when you brought it up again, though,

716
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: I wonder exactly what that looks like. Is it as

717
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: simple as Slay or the starter? You're back out there, Pierre,

718
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: You return to your special teams and your spot duty.

719
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, Slay's the veteran, Slay's the

720
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: guy that signed the bigger contract and all those things.

721
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: There are locker room ramifications, there's locker ications.

722
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: Whether we think that's right or wrong, anybody knows. It's

723
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: not just as simple as who's the best right now

724
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: that's gonna it's going to get you know, the role

725
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: or the snaps, as much as maybe we do feel

726
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: like that should be the case at times.

727
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Not knowing the human beings or the dynamics or the leadership,

728
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 3: the pecking the you know, the locker room. I would

729
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: play Pierre and say, I'm sorry Slagh, but he's playing

730
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: too well. He's got the hot hand. I'm going with it.

731
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's played better than Slay, has

732
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 3: smaller number snapped, but I would pick Pierre.

733
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: I think so too. And you know, it is funny

734
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: in terms of that contract conversation, like remember we had

735
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: the Pierre conversation going into the first week of the

736
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: season that if you're you know you're you're if you're

737
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: the vested veteran like he was at that point. It

738
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: hit so many years in the league, right right, if

739
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: you're act of Week one, your contract is guaranteed for

740
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the season. We talked about that with

741
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: Pierre with was it with Joey Porter Junior because he

742
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: missed he missed the first game against the Jets right

743
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: then he missed the Jets and the Seahawks. He missed

744
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: a couple of games at the beginning of the year.

745
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: I believe it was.

746
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: Does that ring a bell?

747
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm one of those guys was out. One of those

748
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: guys was out one. I think it was Joey Porter Junior.

749
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Might have been Slay, but I think it was Joey

750
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: Porter Junior. And then Pierre ends up playing, and so

751
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: his contract does become guaranteed, stays on the roster, ends

752
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: up you know, as as our brother dal Lawley would

753
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: have said, guys are allowed to get better, and he

754
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: is and he certainly has. And that's just the that's

755
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: the conundrum that you will find yourself in. I guess

756
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: it's a better problem to have than oh, yeah, we're

757
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: down pretty thin here and if somebody else gets hurt,

758
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: we're in real trouble. But I just I'm interested to

759
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: see what that If Slay is completely cleared, No injury designation.

760
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: I'll be very interested to see what that that snap

761
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: count looks like on Sunday.

762
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: And Chris alluded to this too, But I can't imagine

763
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: with Samuel not playing a real football game in fourteen months,

764
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: and when you say it in that term, that's a

765
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: lot different than Duggar. I mean, he's put a helmet

766
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: on six times since he's you know, probably I think

767
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: he's had six practices Steelers. That's why I said that.

768
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: So maybe you flirt with him in there, especially if

769
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: the game gets if you're losing by twenty, you're winning

770
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: by twenty, maybe it's get him, you know, his feet

771
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: wet a little bit. Maybe he's not even active. Yeah,

772
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I would think, though, it's safe

773
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: to say that Samuel is not gonna be your starter

774
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: in Chicago. Yes, I don't think he just jumps everybody.

775
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: You know what they say happens when you assume, But

776
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a safe assumption. At

777
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: this point.

778
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: He's new the airflaying well, slave's got a track record.

779
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 2: You know, you would like to start getting him acclimated,

780
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: and that obviously will begin with practice. But it's a

781
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: good point by you two in terms.

782
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: Of Tyler just set us up and said Porter was

783
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: out week two of the hammy and then got the

784
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: concussion week six against the Brownies.

785
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so what I can't remember if I remember

786
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: there was defensive back missing week one, maybe, but I

787
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: felt like we had that conversation with Pierre.

788
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: It sounds familiar to me too, and I don't remember,

789
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: but you know, it doesn't matter at this point.

790
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: In some ways, week one feels like yesterday. In some

791
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: ways it feels like seven years ago, right right, kind

792
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: of the kind of the way it goes. But yeah,

793
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: that to me is an interesting the Aaron Rodgers storyline

794
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: is going to rightfully so understandably, so get all the attention.

795
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I think the Pierre there's a lot

796
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: of Pierre. Yeah right, one might be Smith. That one

797
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: might be just as intriguing to me.

798
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: I agree that one.

799
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: That one might be just as intriguing to me.

800
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: It sure feels like they've figured some things out on defense,

801
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: particularly in the secondary. I we'll probably talk about that

802
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: more in the second half, you know, the too high

803
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: stuff and all that. But I don't know that I'd

804
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: messed with a good thing at this point against two

805
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: high quality offenses. You know, you just you did well

806
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: against the Colts and the Bengals, and I know Sligh

807
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: was in there for the Colts, but I mean still,

808
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: you're starting to write the ship.

809
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: Exactly right and well against Chargers two.

810
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: But you know, and you.

811
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: Got another I mean, you've got another obviously very capable

812
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: offense in Chicago awaiting you at Soldier Field.

813
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, eating up and so some real weapons too.

814
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: I I understand the uh, the game plan and the

815
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: belief in your guys, but I would, man, I'd have

816
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: a hard time just saying thanks for your service, Pierre.

817
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: And you're gonna, you know, revert to to pretty much

818
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: all special teams this week.

819
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: And it can happen. It's not like it's no lineman,

820
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 3: but usually your starting corners play almost one hundred percent

821
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: snap Like, I don't think Porter missed a snap.

822
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe one, you know, but yeah, they

823
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: want to.

824
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: Go route, they're a little tired, they pop out or

825
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: oh something got it.

826
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, a guy fell on me and I just

827
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: need to catch my win for for you know, for

828
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: a second on the sideline being shocked.

829
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: If there's any kind of rotation.

830
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: There, agreed. It's much like offensive line in that regard

831
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: kind of those those guys have to work very similarly

832
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: so much as a unit, and like you know, like

833
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: five fingers on a fist type thing, and you don't

834
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: want more moving parts than are necessary amongst the cele positions.

835
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: You don't rotate very often.

836
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all.

837
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean you can't get pooled. This is

838
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: poor play, This is true.

839
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: And I you know, I know a lot of times

840
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: when you bring that up, Matt, people will say, yeah,

841
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: but then what are you doing to Pierre's confidence and

842
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: what kind of message are you sending there. I don't

843
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: think that's an issue for a guy like Pierre, who

844
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: has been back and forth up and down his career.

845
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: He's been a starter, he's been a practice squad guy,

846
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: he's been all over the place.

847
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: He's gotten bad news from coaches often right, exactly right,

848
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: And I get that, And I think that's more of

849
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: a quarterback thing. You know, taking guys in out of lineup.

850
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: You're the leader of the team. Like if you were

851
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: to take JJ McCarthy and out of lineup, I mean

852
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: that does have ramifications in your locker room and maybe

853
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: the young man. But deep down, I think any of

854
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: these athletes if that, if that's enough of a setback

855
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: to throw your career down the toilet, then you probably

856
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: weren't mentally tough enough to begin with.

857
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's a great point by you.

858
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, come on, you got benched in the NFL,

859
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: so be it. You know you're gonna get called upon

860
00:40:59,520 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: here again.

861
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: You know a lot of these guys who go on

862
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: to have great success, it didn't start for them all

863
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: sunshine and rainbow.

864
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: No, a lot of these guys have gotten betch.

865
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys have gotten benched. A lot

866
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: of these guys have been on practice squad, have been

867
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Speaker 2: on different teams even now in this era mat A

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys went to different universities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, transfer because they're moving up, moving up,

870
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Speaker 3: getting more money. It's the Flacco moves from pitt to Delaware.

871
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: So you couldn't play.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, or you know, coach leaves and you don't

873
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: think the scheme fits you the same way where you

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Speaker 2: get somewhere and maybe some of the promises that college

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00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: coaches and recruiters making problem make, you know, writing checks

876
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Speaker 2: that they can't actually cash when you get onto campus. Yeah,

877
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Speaker 2: this was not what I thought it was going to be.

878
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: I think that happens plenty of the time as well.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so I knew again that we would have

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Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers storyline from today and there'd be plenty

881
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: to discuss and dissect and debate from that. But this,

882
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: like I said that, this, this sleigh in Pierre usage

883
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Speaker 2: is is just about as interesting from a I agree,

884
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Speaker 2: from not from a national perspective of a future Hall

885
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: of Fame quarterback, but from a what it means for

886
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers this Sunday and what it could mean going

887
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Speaker 2: forward the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the way. Yeah, I mean, starting corner is a

889
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: big deal. And again they have really good receivers and

890
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Speaker 3: you're gonna see a bunch of receivers going forward and

891
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: hopefully into the playoffs. And I'm not saying either one

892
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: is the long term answer, but I think Pierre's clearly

893
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: turned a corner and worth pursuing. You know, is this

894
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 3: who he is? For real?

895
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. I'm the last

896
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Speaker 2: thing I'm trying to check is I don't think you know,

897
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Speaker 2: as I was in here, obviously I do the quick

898
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Speaker 2: little two minute intro for the Mike Tomlin press conference,

899
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Speaker 2: and though yeah, you know, then hop on with Jerry

900
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Speaker 2: for like twenty minutes afterwards to kind of recap everything,

901
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: and I was listening for anything about Asante Samuel. Tomlin

902
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: didn't say anything in his opening statement. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: anybody asked. I don't think anybody. And again, in my mind,

904
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Speaker 2: I was like, but again, when you've got the Aaron

905
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Speaker 2: Rodgers stuff going on and war An injury in High

906
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Smith injury, Yeah, yeah, that's true, it maybe falls to

907
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Speaker 2: the back burner a little bit. But I'm double checking

908
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Speaker 2: here and it does. And unless I completely missed it

909
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Speaker 2: listening and no one's tweeting about it, don't think we

910
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Speaker 2: got any new word on a Sante Samuel Junior. So

911
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Speaker 2: that might be one that we just got to wait

912
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Speaker 2: and see the practice report and see.

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Speaker 3: I think he's practicing in full. I mean he did

914
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Speaker 3: last year. I mean he's healthy, he's cleared. It's still

915
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Speaker 3: on the or.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the practice squad is the better way to put that.

917
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Speaker 2: Does he get elevated to the active roster at any point?

918
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Speaker 2: That would be the.

919
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Speaker 3: Don't think he has an extensive special teams background though

920
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't if he's your fourth corner and he's not

921
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Speaker 3: a special team or although Pierre is.

922
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Speaker 2: Here, absolutely is he's one of your your core guys.

923
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Speaker 3: But how I mean, does this Jersey get dirty? Right?

924
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Speaker 3: But you also don't want just two out there, you know,

925
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean or three, because that's what worried me when

926
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Speaker 3: Ramsey got jacked, is like all of a sudden, it's

927
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Speaker 3: like you may not have any corners at least because

928
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Speaker 3: Ramsey can always do it. Sure, yeah, sure, and then

929
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Speaker 3: you're short of free safety like Clark had to be

930
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Speaker 3: the free and he's not.

931
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Speaker 2: Really we're kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul in

932
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Speaker 2: some ways. But it all worked out well. I was,

933
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Speaker 2: I was not laughing about that. But in an alternate universe,

934
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Speaker 2: you know, Mike Tomlin, as I think everybody would expect,

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Speaker 2: was very much in Jalen Ramsey's corner and was you know,

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Speaker 2: I forget what his exact line was, but you know,

937
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Speaker 2: when someone spits on you, you can you can react,

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Speaker 2: however to kind of to kind of paraphrase there a

939
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Speaker 2: little bit. I wonder, let's see, I have no message.

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Speaker 2: If someone spits in your face, do whatever comes natural.

941
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Speaker 2: That was from Mike Tomlin, and I think that's right

942
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Speaker 2: to say. Today, I do wonder if Cincinnati would have

943
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Speaker 2: ended up coming back and winning that game, what the

944
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Speaker 2: message or what the.

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Speaker 3: You know, we would all understand no matter what, but boy,

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Speaker 3: that'd be an unfortunate way for the game to turn.

947
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Speaker 2: I mean totally awful, awful yesterday, I think we would

948
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Speaker 2: be singing a completely different tune, as would many people.

949
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Speaker 2: Fortunately ended well on the field justice with the suspension,

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Speaker 2: we close the book and we move on.

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Speaker 3: On my other podcast, we did a pretty much just

952
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: buried the Falcons and Bengals today. That's something we've been

953
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: kind of doing on Tuesdays once in a while. It's like,

954
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Speaker 3: all right, who's like out of it out?

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Speaker 2: You're writing eulogies on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, And I think the Bengals are qualify.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons, especially with the loss of Pennix and Drake London,

958
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Speaker 2: that seems.

959
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Speaker 3: Like a it's not going great.

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00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: Can coon on three, as Arthur Moates would say, an

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Speaker 2: hour in the books, another hour to go. We got

962
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Speaker 2: plenty to get into. We'll do a little fantasy football focus.

963
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Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the Tuesday power rankings. All

964
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Speaker 2: that and more as we roll along West Shuler, Matt Williamson.

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