Speaker 1: Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2: How's it going Pretty fucking chill?
Speaker 3: Dude, pretty fucking chill? Why is it going for chill?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir? Who is this?
Speaker 2: Uh? You can call uh? I'm I'm down to go
Speaker 2: by my former uh smash bro's name, Stud with the
Speaker 2: money sign.
Speaker 3: Okay, Stud with the money sign. Um.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: You sent me a lot of texts. I'm gonna read
Speaker 3: all of them.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: First of all, your name, your name is Chris. I
Speaker 3: might just end up calling you that. You said, I'm Chris.
Speaker 3: I'm violently hungover at work right now. You sent me
Speaker 3: that about uh two months ago. Then you just said
Speaker 3: I've been crashing the fuck out for the past two months,
Speaker 3: got a haircut today, and I'm ready to be a menace, okay.
Speaker 3: And then you said my name is Gannendorf. And then
Speaker 3: you said anyone who manes Little Mac on Super Smash
Speaker 3: Brothers is a bitch. And then you said I got
Speaker 3: sent to jail on Valentine's Day and I'm out now.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like you were a little bit too
Speaker 3: much of a menace. So let's okay, let's get into
Speaker 3: this here. So you said I've been crashing the fuck
Speaker 3: out for the past two months. I got a haircut today.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to be a menace? What does that mean?
Speaker 2: So, like, basically, like when that was going on in
Speaker 2: my life, I was just being belligerently drunk on a
Speaker 2: regular basis, and I was doing like a lot of
Speaker 2: fucking cocaine because there was a lot of stuff going
Speaker 2: on with my So. I got two baby moms. My
Speaker 2: first one she doesn't I can't see my son. She
Speaker 2: has a restrain order against me that I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's still standing because it got put on a
Speaker 2: temporary status. And then my second one is now withholding
Speaker 2: my son away from me, And that was a big
Speaker 2: contributing factor to like me constantly crashing out because she
Speaker 2: blocked me on everything. She doesn't bring my son over
Speaker 2: or anything anymore, and it just kind of like ultimately
Speaker 2: resulted in like me just crashing the fuck out on
Speaker 2: a daily basis.
Speaker 3: I see, have two different baby mamas. Yeah, how old
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty nine. I'm turning thirty in July July fourty exact.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have a birthday, And how old are the kids?
Speaker 2: So my first one, his name's Arrows. He turned three
Speaker 2: on January twenty second. And then my younger one. He's
Speaker 2: one and a half. His name is Dayden. He turns
Speaker 2: two on September twenty third.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so these are recent kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty pretty recent.
Speaker 3: And all right, let's start with the first one. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you mentioned one as there stranding order, and
Speaker 3: then the other one does block to you. What's the
Speaker 3: deal with the other one?
Speaker 2: So with the second one, we were kind of on
Speaker 2: and off a little bit, like maybe a year after
Speaker 2: we started dating, a year after my first son was born,
Speaker 2: and we were kind of on and off since then.
Speaker 2: So for like the past like two and a half
Speaker 2: is years, we were on and off. When and when
Speaker 2: we had gone back together at some point I can't
Speaker 2: remember the exact timeline of it, but we got back
Speaker 2: together and then she ended up getting pregnant. So during
Speaker 2: that time we stayed together, we were doing everything together,
Speaker 2: like living life, we got our own apartment, and then
Speaker 2: after we had the baby, a lot of the like
Speaker 2: the postpartum stuff like it got like out of hand
Speaker 2: and she wasn't really aware of how to like address things,
Speaker 2: and it kind of it went down like the path
Speaker 2: of like her pushing me away I was doing everything
Speaker 2: for her, like really trying my very best to like
Speaker 2: let her know, like you can come home and talk
Speaker 2: to me. And ultimately it just like boiled down to
Speaker 2: like her pushing me away, and I'd be up all
Speaker 2: hours of the night with the baby alone. And then
Speaker 2: it led to the point of like me cheating on
Speaker 2: her because I felt alone in the relationship. And when
Speaker 2: I cheated on her, I cheated on her with this
Speaker 2: girl and she gave me HSB one and I was
Speaker 2: unaware of it because I was asymptomatic. Yeah, I got
Speaker 2: HSB one from her and she told me, but I
Speaker 2: don't recall it because I was drunk and on a
Speaker 2: lot of drugs. So after I had slept with that girl,
Speaker 2: stepping out on my second kid's mom, I then gave
Speaker 2: it to her because I didn't know that I even
Speaker 2: had it. And then that from that point forward, like
Speaker 2: the relationship completely like dwindled away. We broke up, and
Speaker 2: then we tried getting back together sometime later, and that
Speaker 2: was around like August of last year. And when we
Speaker 2: were together, the way she went about like trying to
Speaker 2: deem it as like me rebuilding my trust. It was
Speaker 2: like her policing me me having to send her constant
Speaker 2: pictures of like where I'm at as I'm like commuting
Speaker 2: like from place to place where I'm seeing even though
Speaker 2: she has my way.
Speaker 3: She took you away. I'm sorry, I'm getting all the
Speaker 3: I'm getting all the people mixed up. She took you back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: After you gave her, after you gave her the hs V,
Speaker 3: she took you back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And well so she didn't take me back.
Speaker 2: Like we weren't officially together, but we were, at least
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, we were like exclusively talking to each other.
Speaker 2: But she never stopped talking to some of her exes
Speaker 2: while this, like from last year was going on. So
Speaker 2: from August of last year to about December, she never
Speaker 2: stopped talking to like her exes. She will go through
Speaker 2: my phone, she will go through all my social media
Speaker 2: stuff and basically like police me into like proving like
Speaker 2: that I am only talking to her when she wouldn't
Speaker 2: reciprocate the same kind of like transparency. And it's like
Speaker 2: I get it, you know, because like I cheat on her,
Speaker 2: like now we both have this lifelong fucking STD. But
Speaker 2: like the way she conveyed her her emotions into that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff like it it it made me like
Speaker 2: start going like crazy, like cause it drove into a
Speaker 2: point of where like I had to prove myself to her,
Speaker 2: and I was like doing some like outrageous things that
Speaker 2: like I'm not proud of, and it with time it
Speaker 2: got worse and worse and just art like snowballing effect.
Speaker 2: Like I would text her like I would send her
Speaker 2: like an insane amount of text messages and I and
Speaker 2: I'd be calling her an insane amount of times to
Speaker 2: let her know in my fucked up way of thinking
Speaker 2: that like this is how I'm proving to her that
Speaker 2: I'm only talking to her.
Speaker 3: Uh Okay, Chris, Yeah, well listen, Chris, did you speak
Speaker 3: to do you such a real therapist?
Speaker 2: Man? Uh? I? I did a long time ago, but
Speaker 2: I was like probably like in high school. Uh and
Speaker 2: I And so I've listened to your podcast for a
Speaker 2: long time and like at some point how You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: like chat GPT is pretty fucking great. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, let me just start talking to chat
Speaker 2: GPT about these kind of things.
Speaker 3: Okay, what did chat GPT say?
Speaker 2: Uh? I will talk to chat GPT like say like
Speaker 2: I'm feeling like extremely anxious, like I wanted to like
Speaker 2: be continuously texting her blah blah blah, like blowing her up,
Speaker 2: you know. And it was basically like calming me down
Speaker 2: and uh like telling me. It's like like it provided
Speaker 2: a lot of like uh exercise like breathing exercises, or
Speaker 2: like it would suggest for me to like splash my
Speaker 2: face with water and uh to like alleviate myself from
Speaker 2: all the anxiety and stuff like that, to prevent myself
Speaker 2: from going overboard and like kind of blowing her up.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you said you you went to uh jail
Speaker 3: on Valentine's Day and did you just get out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got out on the fifteenth.
Speaker 3: All right, so here there for a month. What I mean,
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about it? What was up?
Speaker 2: Oh? So okay? Also not a not another proudest moment,
Speaker 2: So like me being a mess and like constantly crashing
Speaker 2: out like itind of like entails this because like I
Speaker 2: was drunk and I've I've had like a really hard
Speaker 2: time like with drinking and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 2: got arrested on Valentine's Day for a third duy. My
Speaker 2: first one was when I was twenty one, and then
Speaker 2: my second one was last year, and the third one
Speaker 2: was on Valentine's Day. So on Valentine's Day, one of
Speaker 2: my buddies we can just call him a Gerbil h
Speaker 2: Gerbil was calling me like telling me about like the
Speaker 2: whole situation with his girl. He was all sad. So
Speaker 2: we meet him and a couple of friends. We went
Speaker 2: out and I was drinking. I had a I had
Speaker 2: like a twelve pact of like the white cloth surges
Speaker 2: to myself and then uh, when we went out, I
Speaker 2: had like maybe like seven or eight amfs that that
Speaker 2: blue drink. The audio says, you know I I then yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And then afterwards, at some point in the night, I
Speaker 2: had just blacked the fuck out, and I came to
Speaker 2: in the driveway of my family's home because I moved
Speaker 2: back in last year. And then I blacked out again,
Speaker 2: and I came to in the driver's seat on my
Speaker 2: truck with a flashlight on my face. And as soon
Speaker 2: as that flashlight got to my face, I was like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I'm going to jail, like I'm it's that, I'm done.
Speaker 2: And so when I got into jail, excuse me out,
Speaker 2: I thought I was an a burp after the On
Speaker 2: the eighteenth of February, I had my court date. I
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly teacher of what to do, so I asked
Speaker 2: to speak to a public defender and then they had
Speaker 2: my court case said to the third of this month.
Speaker 2: And basically they tried giving me sixteen months in prison
Speaker 2: with running my second and third d Y concurrent as
Speaker 2: a felony. And because I had signed a piece of
Speaker 2: paper agreeing to do sixty days in county jail for
Speaker 2: not doing my work release, I was able to use
Speaker 2: that in my like to to not go to prison. Basically,
Speaker 2: so I did sixty days, but because each dayan county's
Speaker 2: count is credited as two days, that's why I did
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 3: So listen, Chris, I'm listen. I'm not a big I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna sit here and be like try to you
Speaker 3: know whatever, call you out or anything. I want this
Speaker 3: podcast to be helpful. I want this phone call to
Speaker 3: be helpful. So like, Okay, so you're out of jail
Speaker 3: now and you got this restraining order, Like what like
Speaker 3: what's up? Man? Like, what what's the plan?
Speaker 2: So my plan, because I thought I was gonna have
Speaker 2: my job on it came back out, so that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I got fired. So now I've rebuilt my resume. I
Speaker 2: have been applying on Sundays. There's an AA meeting here
Speaker 2: in the next city over for me. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: begin going back to AA because I went for like
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks at some point in the past,
Speaker 2: like three years, and I thought I don't need this,
Speaker 2: but it it seems like it it may be the
Speaker 2: best option because it's like, what worse could happen is
Speaker 2: like I don't like it, like it. I can't say
Speaker 2: that I didn't try it if I commit myself to it.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna try and commit to it. And I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna keep going even if I don't like it.
Speaker 3: And so, okay, so you your wife is a restraining
Speaker 3: order I get his second wife. Wait, okay, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm still try to get your timeline right. So you
Speaker 3: had this kid, and then when did you have the
Speaker 3: second kid?
Speaker 2: The first one was born in January twenty second, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, and then my second kid was born a
Speaker 2: nine to twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 3: Okay, And you're not able to have contact with either
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: The first one, I cannot at all until whenever the
Speaker 2: court decides to send the papers. Like I've been waiting,
Speaker 2: I've been calling, and I can't really get any information
Speaker 2: about if that restraining order is still like on a
Speaker 2: temporary status. If it is, then that completely terminates one
Speaker 2: visitations or anything with my first son, just per the
Speaker 2: like the stipulations and parameters set in the restraining order, okay.
Speaker 2: And then the second yeah, the second, the second one.
Speaker 2: She just has me blocked on everything. And I've been
Speaker 2: trying to have ask my my mother if she can
Speaker 2: ask her to bring him or like at least let
Speaker 2: him spend the night, but she just constantly provides, like
Speaker 2: he's sick. I'm not feeling good. And it's been that
Speaker 2: way since probably January, like like as soon as the.
Speaker 1: New year started.
Speaker 3: How's the drinking.
Speaker 2: I haven't drank since I got out, and I don't
Speaker 2: plan on it. When I was in jail, all I
Speaker 2: did was like work out because I'm so in the
Speaker 2: county jail over here, like the Hispanics, they run a
Speaker 2: program basically like it's just because we don't have anything
Speaker 2: else to do, so we we get up at six am.
Speaker 2: We work out for a couple hours. So being in
Speaker 2: jail for the past month, I just got into fitness.
Speaker 2: And now, I mean, I've been maintaining the workout that
Speaker 2: I do, and I'm surprised that I'm awake right.
Speaker 1: Now because.
Speaker 2: I have a bed and my bed is pretty comfortable. So
Speaker 2: I'm probably still going to get up at six am,
Speaker 2: workout and then continue applying, and then I need to
Speaker 2: six my truck. So I'm just in to maintain a
Speaker 2: life of fitness. And when I was in jail, I
Speaker 2: had started talking to this girl, like maybe a week before,
Speaker 2: and she's been extremely supportive of everything.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, you started okay a week before you went
Speaker 3: to jail. You what you matched with a lady on
Speaker 3: a dating app? Yeah, you matched with the lady on
Speaker 3: a dating app a week before you went to jail.
Speaker 3: And did you did you go on a date before
Speaker 3: you met before you went to jail.
Speaker 2: Well, so, okay, so I live in I'm if any.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say where I'm from. It's It's
Speaker 2: totally cool. I'm from Chapter so in Kern County and California. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so she so she lives in San Luisabethspo. By the
Speaker 2: Bay area and or like more like just like the coast,
Speaker 2: like San Louis Obispo County. But she she made the
Speaker 2: effort to like reach out to me in jail after
Speaker 2: I had my my mom, uh, because she asked me
Speaker 2: if I wanted her to grab my my property like
Speaker 2: my phone and my wallet, and I'll like, yes, please,
Speaker 2: I'll they call this girl and let her know I
Speaker 2: am not ignoring her. I'm just in jail.
Speaker 3: So, Okay, you match with this girl on a dating
Speaker 3: app and you have your mom tell try to tell
Speaker 3: the girl. I'm sorry, I've tried to you said, your
Speaker 3: is your mom?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom?
Speaker 3: You have your mom tell this girl that you match
Speaker 3: with on a dating app. Sorry, my son is not
Speaker 3: ghosting you. He's just going to jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like because I was already in there, and
Speaker 2: she's like at this point, she had already figured it
Speaker 2: out that I was in jail, and then she went
Speaker 2: and made like an account to be able to so
Speaker 2: in the jail, we have tablets and we can message
Speaker 2: people if they paid for the account or whatever. And
Speaker 2: she went ahead and made it like an e messaging
Speaker 2: account so she can message me on the tablet dude
Speaker 2: wild in jail. This is a girl.
Speaker 3: Let's know you for one week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we met a long time ago because we
Speaker 2: used to work in the same city. And oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like we met a long time ago.
Speaker 3: She didn't meet on the dating apps. You'd met a
Speaker 3: long time ago, but you reconnected on the dating app? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 3: So how long had it been since you guys? Like
Speaker 3: why is she so? Like why? Like that's a lot,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that's like, did you
Speaker 3: guys have a strong relationship beforehand, like like all those
Speaker 3: years ago?
Speaker 2: So we had only met like one time because uh
Speaker 2: so she also has a kid and the and at
Speaker 2: her boyfriend at the time, I worked with him and
Speaker 2: he invited me over and we just partied and that
Speaker 2: was the only interaction I had with her. But when
Speaker 2: we rekindled on the on the dating app, remembered me.
Speaker 2: And her entire life has like one eighty. She doesn't
Speaker 2: party anymore, she doesn't do drugs. She's she's an amazing mother,
Speaker 2: and she's like her her mentality and like the way
Speaker 2: she goes about things is like extremely wholesome, like just compassionate,
Speaker 2: and she's just like a very independent, strong woman. That
Speaker 2: has like just this attraction I don't know, like it
Speaker 2: it's to me, like it seemed like it feels like
Speaker 2: she has feelings for me, and and she said it,
Speaker 2: but I didn't expect that because like we had just
Speaker 2: rekindled on a dating app app, like so we met
Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen, and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way like like this girl cares about me
Speaker 2: or like even is worried about my well being because
Speaker 2: we only met once. We rekindled about almost ten years later,
Speaker 2: and I'm in jail now for being an idiot. Dude.
Speaker 3: What that's crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like the fact that like she went the
Speaker 2: extra mile and like continued to talk to me and
Speaker 2: like just like like not even like stold me in
Speaker 2: like a negative way, but like just talked me through
Speaker 2: it with like empathy and like genuine care. I was like,
Speaker 2: are they I'm not gonna fuck this up again?
Speaker 3: Dude, that's crazy? Do you do? You know what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: So you went, you like did coke with this lady's
Speaker 3: boyfriend ten years ago, and then she messes with you
Speaker 3: on a dating app and then gets it and then
Speaker 3: like a couple of days later, gets a message from
Speaker 3: your mom saying, hey, my sound's like ghosting you. He's
Speaker 3: in jail. Did she send you? Did she send that
Speaker 3: message on the phone or on the dating app? Is
Speaker 3: your mom like typing on Facebook dating for you?
Speaker 2: No? No? So uh right. So the way my mom
Speaker 2: contacted her because my mom is not tech savvy at all,
Speaker 2: but she just I gave her the pass code to
Speaker 2: my phone. I'm gonna completely out my past code on
Speaker 2: from my phone on this and I told her, I
Speaker 2: told my mom what the pass code to my phone is,
Speaker 2: sixty nine, sixty nine, and this is how you spell never.
Speaker 3: Never could have guests to that one, really outing yourself
Speaker 3: on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if she I send her one of your episodes.
Speaker 2: So if she keeps up with the podcast, if at
Speaker 2: any point or if this gets anywhere or whatever, at
Speaker 2: any point, she will she will hear my pass go.
Speaker 2: I'll probably end up telling her. But yeah, So my
Speaker 2: mom just called her from my phone because I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to sit there and explain to my to
Speaker 2: my not tech savvy, hispanic mom how to navigate through
Speaker 2: an iPhone that she doesn't know how to use without
Speaker 2: a home button, and then to get to Tinder and
Speaker 2: then find her in my tender DM. So I just
Speaker 2: asked her to call her from my phone because I
Speaker 2: had her phone number.
Speaker 3: Did you have a phone number from tender or from
Speaker 3: ten years ago from tinder? M? And then this girl
Speaker 3: has been dude, this is crazy. So what like, Okay,
Speaker 3: so you've been out for three days? Have you gone
Speaker 3: to see her?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Because so when when the impounded my truck? Whoever like
Speaker 2: drove my truck into the onto the flat bed or whatever.
Speaker 2: They punched my clutch through the firewall. So I can't
Speaker 2: even drive my truck.
Speaker 3: How far away does she live?
Speaker 2: I think two hours?
Speaker 3: Okay, man, so what's the okay? Sorry man, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to wrap my head around all this stuff. This is insane.
Speaker 3: Are you texting? Are you texting with her all the time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just texted her as soon as you called me back.
Speaker 2: That in caplocks. I'm on the wait what did I say?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm on the own with the therapy. Get go
Speaker 2: because I misspell phone.
Speaker 3: That's so funny. Okay, what's up with this lady? Is
Speaker 3: interesting to me?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I have to be honest, I like and no,
Speaker 3: this isn't shade to this lady. But yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: not shaped to this lady, it's not shit to you.
Speaker 3: But for this lady to be getting involved with a
Speaker 3: guy who, for lack of a better word, your life
Speaker 3: is in a bit of a fucked up situation right now,
Speaker 3: you know, Like for you know, I think we both
Speaker 3: know this, her life must also be pretty fucked up
Speaker 3: right now for her to dive into this thing with you,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like, what what's going
Speaker 3: on with this lady where she's diving into this like
Speaker 3: jail relationship with a guy she met from her boyfriend
Speaker 3: doing coke with him ten years ago? Like what's going on?
Speaker 2: So right now? It's that like that that that that
Speaker 2: is an understandable like like way to see it. But
Speaker 2: like she's doing pre pre well off honestly, like like
Speaker 2: that there's I don't know why, but I am utterly
Speaker 2: great that she is diving into this life into my
Speaker 2: life because like my life is in a fucked up
Speaker 2: situation and like her is like like I mean she
Speaker 2: lives with her family, and I mean it's understandable in
Speaker 2: her area, like rent is like four thousand dollars or
Speaker 2: three thousand I think, like average, but like she's pretty
Speaker 2: well off, like she's she's going to college, she has
Speaker 2: a she has a great job, she's a great mother.
Speaker 2: Like she's she's a very healthy mindset woman. And I'm
Speaker 2: just like I'm like, why, like why me? Like like
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not like trying to discourage it, but
Speaker 2: like I'm just like why me? Like are you?
Speaker 3: Are you handsome?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm like handsome, but like, uh, I
Speaker 2: have a lot of tattoos?
Speaker 3: Are you tall and skinny?
Speaker 1: I am? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, I mean that's good that you've
Speaker 3: had of that tall skinny tattoos. That's a lot. That's
Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can.
Speaker 3: Let you can almost. There's plenty of people out there
Speaker 3: who are willing to look past three d uys in
Speaker 3: jail time for tall, skinny and tattoos.
Speaker 2: And the two baby moms that and.
Speaker 3: The two baby mamas? Yeah, how tall and skinny? Exactly
Speaker 3: are we talking here?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, I'm not even gonna like lie about it
Speaker 2: because I know people. So in the eyes of the
Speaker 2: of the epitome of a tall king, I am a
Speaker 2: short king because I am five foot eleven I'm not lying.
Speaker 3: You're five foot eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm five foot eleven.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's way less baby mamas than I thought would
Speaker 3: be tolerated at five foot eleven, or way more baby
Speaker 3: mamas than I thought would be tolerated at five eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, like if you're not a six
Speaker 2: feet or tall, like you're a short king, and like
Speaker 2: if I wore my boots, like like I'm just living
Speaker 2: a lie. Like it's like it's like I'm living the
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3: Okay, So dude, man, this is crazy. So I hear Allkay,
Speaker 3: So I guess what what do we want for you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: You clearly like if your life was a movie of
Speaker 3: some kind, this woman over the this this magical tender
Speaker 3: uh rekindling woman would be there. Would probably be the
Speaker 3: love interest of the movie. And if the movie had
Speaker 3: a happy ending, you'd get to reconnect with your children.
Speaker 3: You'd ride away with your lady and her son. You'd
Speaker 3: have a nice you know, daughter daughter right with her daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, you quit drinking. You'd put on like a
Speaker 3: white shirt or something like that. Like you want to
Speaker 3: you want you want some version of a happy ending
Speaker 3: for yourself. Right, So what and right now, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you got out of jail, You've been sober for a month.
Speaker 3: You've proven to yourself that you can at least do
Speaker 3: it for a month. If you can do it for
Speaker 3: a month, you can do it forever. So what's what's
Speaker 3: between not just knowing you and knowing your life better
Speaker 3: than I know you and then I know your life.
Speaker 3: What's between you and that happy ending?
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's being in this town because like when I
Speaker 2: lived like away from like the people who candone and
Speaker 2: like enable like the bad behavior and like the bad
Speaker 2: influences and stuff like that. Because like every almost every
Speaker 2: person in this town that like I'm friends with, like
Speaker 2: like my my old my my old drug dealer lives
Speaker 2: down the street. Two of them lived on the same block.
Speaker 2: And Okay, like I I just think like completely like
Speaker 2: cutting myself off from like a majority of these people
Speaker 2: that enable and like condone to like drinking and driving
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Like I think it's ideal to
Speaker 2: just kind of like cut them off because I've been
Speaker 2: in plenty of situations where like even after my second.
Speaker 1: Do you I excuse me?
Speaker 2: I thought I had a burp again, but uh, like
Speaker 2: I'd be putting in a position where like somebody would
Speaker 2: be a little too too too drunk, like a little
Speaker 2: more drunk than I am, and then I'd get acid
Speaker 2: to drive, and the person asking me to drive, I
Speaker 2: can't drive, and I'm like, well, I can't drive either,
Speaker 2: And then I'm just like, you know what, fuck it, Like,
Speaker 2: I'll just drive. I have drugs on me. I'll just
Speaker 2: do a bunch of drugs right now, and then I'll
Speaker 2: be sobered up a little bit.
Speaker 3: So normally I'll say this to that point, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people will tell you, like, oh, you
Speaker 3: can't blame the people around you, and you can't, But
Speaker 3: I do think that there's a lot of uh validity
Speaker 3: to your point that like the community that you're in
Speaker 3: and the people you surround yourself in are actually genuinely
Speaker 3: extremely important for like the kind of person that you become.
Speaker 3: So you know, you can't really like blame your friends
Speaker 3: for like enabling your like stuff that you're doing. But
Speaker 3: I think you got the great sentiment going that you
Speaker 3: should find a new environment, not just a place, but
Speaker 3: people as well who like share your desires and sentiments
Speaker 3: to stop like making crazy ass decisions. I think AA
Speaker 3: is a good thing for that. I think you know, however,
Speaker 3: you can yeah, kind of build a new community that
Speaker 3: won't be like where it won't be so easy to
Speaker 3: do the shit that you're doing and they'll be looking
Speaker 3: at it and going like you know, what the fuck
Speaker 3: more than like, yeah, this is totally normal and cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like it in the in the community that
Speaker 2: I mean, like the community of friends that I have,
Speaker 2: like that, like that is just a normal thing. So
Speaker 2: it's like to everyone in my circle of friends, like
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, like it's no big deal. Like just
Speaker 2: an example, like two of my longest friends that I've
Speaker 2: known here, Like these two dudes, they've been hanging out
Speaker 2: for like the past like fifteen ish years on a
Speaker 2: daily basis, and they put down about a twenty pack
Speaker 2: to thirty pack a day.
Speaker 1: Whow Yeah, Like like.
Speaker 2: It is extremely like just a normal thing to like
Speaker 2: put down just multiple cases in a day. Like there's
Speaker 2: nothing to do in this town. Like we live in
Speaker 2: bump fuck basically nowhere we're surrounded by orchards, Like there's
Speaker 2: drug dealers everywhere, and like if I go to the
Speaker 2: next city over like twenty minutes South. I end up
Speaker 2: in Bakersfield, and I used to be like in high school,
Speaker 2: I was like really big and like the Super Smash
Speaker 2: Bros Community over here, and like I would help like coordinate,
Speaker 2: like with local tournaments and like at my mom's house,
Speaker 2: Like I think we had fucking mewtwo King come over
Speaker 2: one time.
Speaker 3: You had shut up. You had mewtwo King at your apartment?
Speaker 3: Why your house?
Speaker 2: Once it was some MLG guy I can't remember exactly
Speaker 2: who his name was. And my friend that helped coordinate
Speaker 2: all these Super Smash brow tournaments. He's competed in EVO
Speaker 2: fucking for the Super Smash Pros competition.
Speaker 3: Dude, I just had a weird moment just now. Can
Speaker 3: I tell you where you're twenty nine? And you were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, I was helping organize
Speaker 3: Super Smash Brothers tournaments and dude, I genuine dude, I woy.
Speaker 3: I just had a genuinely crazy moment in my head.
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, this guy must be fucking old
Speaker 3: or no, no, no, no, no no, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that. It wasn't that. It was like, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's not. Actually, I'm sorry. That's how I said that
Speaker 3: this gout was old. I was like, huh, what do
Speaker 3: you mean you were doing in high school? That was
Speaker 3: like Super Smash Brothers was popping like kind of recently.
Speaker 3: And then I remember that I'm about your age and
Speaker 3: I also organized Super Smash Brothers tournaments when I was
Speaker 3: in high school. And I'm like, oh fuck, I'm fuck
Speaker 3: getting fucking old now.
Speaker 2: Yeah what we're pushing thirty dude?
Speaker 3: Yeah damn. I was like, wait, that was like two
Speaker 3: years ago and we're not it just it didn't make
Speaker 3: any sense to me. The math, yes, not was not mathing,
Speaker 3: but yeah that's funny.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So the point is so once you
Speaker 3: get back into Smash Brothers, man, it's still around.
Speaker 2: Okay, so funny enough. I still have my CRT TV.
Speaker 2: I have like three game cubes, and I have all
Speaker 2: the characters unlocked on Melee, and I have every every
Speaker 2: every Moth pizza shit, I'm outside those the Moth but huh,
Speaker 2: like I have every I have every damn it. What
Speaker 2: are the words? I'm like I could get back into,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know if the Kern County community
Speaker 2: like really doubled in like Melee anymore.
Speaker 3: Uh huh okay, well maybe not melee man, but like
Speaker 3: just spit something like whatever, smash ultimates fucking just something
Speaker 3: something where you can show up regularly and like be
Speaker 3: a part of society. Because that's what I think is
Speaker 3: you want to get your kids back. I assume, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so you I think the first step to like this
Speaker 3: this fairy tale happy ending that we're talking about is
Speaker 3: just like finding your way back to being a well
Speaker 3: rounded human being where you feel like when you are,
Speaker 3: like where you feel like you can be judged as
Speaker 3: worthy of like being back in everyone's life. And I
Speaker 3: told I totally totally think that that is achievable for you.
Speaker 3: I think everything is there, right, but I think like
Speaker 3: you got to kind of do this mental mapping out
Speaker 3: of like what are the steps, what are the steps
Speaker 3: of like of like just being able to like look
Speaker 3: around and be like, I have a healthy life. I
Speaker 3: don't feel like my emotions are running a muck. I'm not,
Speaker 3: you know, the drugs aren't running a munk, the manias
Speaker 3: not running a monk. Like I'm just like a healthy,
Speaker 3: normal fucking dude, and I'm ready to be a boring dad.
Speaker 3: It's like how do you get there? Because that's the
Speaker 3: first step. It was like the internal work of being like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm worthy to like have my kids back,
Speaker 3: be a good uh you know whatever, boyfriend's stepdad, whatever
Speaker 3: it is you want to be to this this this
Speaker 3: new this old new old flame person. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So basically you just want to mentally map out like
Speaker 3: how are you gonna get there?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's like to me because like a little yeah,
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm using this term wrong. But I've
Speaker 2: heard younger people say that this is a lore drop
Speaker 2: and I mean that will complete genuinity that I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if I'm using this term correctly, but this.
Speaker 3: Is a large rope. Yes, we're we're getting a lot
Speaker 3: of lower about you.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I'm young and hip now, but like I've
Speaker 2: been like so I started smoking cigarettes and we went
Speaker 2: I was like ten, eleven years old, and I've been
Speaker 2: drinking since I was about like twelve, And this is
Speaker 2: probably like the first time. Like I've had like short
Speaker 2: bursts of like being sober in the past, but like
Speaker 2: nothing like more than a month. And I've never thought
Speaker 2: like being sober for more than a month would be
Speaker 2: at all achievable in life, because like, I'm not sorry,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of cops going on.
Speaker 3: I don't know why keep going.
Speaker 2: But I never thought it would be like an achievable
Speaker 2: feat in life because like it just seemed like the
Speaker 2: normal thing. And like, like, do you know the band
Speaker 2: Motley Crew, I've heard of them? Okay, uh, Nikki six,
Speaker 2: they have a documentary called The Dirt and growing up
Speaker 2: like Dad's been gone. Mom wore two full time jobs
Speaker 2: to like keep a roof over my head with my
Speaker 2: brother and so so she wasn't exactly absent. She was
Speaker 2: just working all the time because that's what she had
Speaker 2: to do. And there's a quote from Nikki six in
Speaker 2: the movie, except it's not exactly verbatim that I feel
Speaker 2: the same way, because it's not it wasn't my preference
Speaker 2: of drug. But it's like the camera pans out from
Speaker 2: the outside of his mansion and like it slowly comes
Speaker 2: in and like it goes to him in his tidy whities,
Speaker 2: like basically on the verge of overdosing from heroin, and
Speaker 2: he says, I've never felt a motherly love until I
Speaker 2: met her, and her name was heroin, and to me,
Speaker 2: like that completely resonated with me because like alcohol and
Speaker 2: like drugs and substance abaset was like it was an
Speaker 2: easy thing to turn to as a kid, and so
Speaker 2: like now like I'm just like fuck, like I'm sober,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not feeling like shit all the time. Like
Speaker 2: how do I maintain this? Like because getting sober is easy,
Speaker 2: but staying sober is the hard part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course he do to maintain it. I
Speaker 3: guess one day at a time. Man, That's what they say.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Like and like because I used to be
Speaker 2: like super into skateboarding and stuff like that, Like like
Speaker 2: I was all on a doing death metal vocals as
Speaker 2: like a teenager and playing Super Smash Bros. So like
Speaker 2: now I'm like, like I can I can do the
Speaker 2: Super Smash Bros.
Speaker 1: Part.
Speaker 2: Skateboarding might be a little bit out of the question.
Speaker 2: I don't want to break an ankle or if I
Speaker 2: do skate just like be careful mm hmm. But like
Speaker 2: I and like, I'm like rediscovering a lot of things
Speaker 2: about myself again because it's like it's been so long
Speaker 2: of like not being sober at all and like understanding
Speaker 2: who I am anymore as a person. Who's like, like,
Speaker 2: what do I even enjoy? Like do I enjoy those
Speaker 2: things anymore?
Speaker 4: Mmm?
Speaker 1: So, like this is a whole new adventure, the whole
Speaker 1: new world.
Speaker 3: It is a whole new adventure. Well, i'd look at
Speaker 3: let's at least you're going on the adventure, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: we have a we have guys call into this podcast
Speaker 3: who have similar problems and are are kind of they're
Speaker 3: actually a step behind. They're actually a step or two
Speaker 3: behind where you are. Where they they actually don't even
Speaker 3: believe that there is an adventure to go on, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like that in and of itself is a important thing.
Speaker 3: The fact that you're like, Okay, I'm gonna walk, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna walk this road, I'm gonna do this thing. I
Speaker 3: know what I have to do, and I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 3: do it, versus like, oh, there's no hope on a
Speaker 3: piece of shit, I should die, you know, all these
Speaker 3: crazy thoughts. So so look, man, I think like staying
Speaker 3: sane is just a thing you have to try to
Speaker 3: do every day. And so I don't know, I'm kind
Speaker 3: of talking a little bit of nonsense here. I appreciate
Speaker 3: you sharing all of this stuff with us, but uh,
Speaker 3: I I think just like staying saying it is just
Speaker 3: something you just kind of fucking have to try to. Dude,
Speaker 3: being an adult is just like you wake up, you
Speaker 3: try again. You know, you fucking just keep trying. So
Speaker 3: that's that's what what you just do. Man's keep keep
Speaker 3: keep trying to not drink and not kill yourself. That's
Speaker 3: that's the the best way to do it.
Speaker 2: You seeing the whole like keep trying thing. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: shout out my favorite book right now. It's called A
Speaker 2: Million Little Pieces by James Fray, And what you said
Speaker 2: just completely reminded me of what the author says in
Speaker 2: the book, because like it's about him going to rehabbing,
Speaker 2: like him struggling like to maintain sobriety even in rehabbing,
Speaker 2: like all the emotional like difficulties that he has to
Speaker 2: navigate and everything, and and he he says in the book,
Speaker 2: whatever it takes, just hold on, Just keep fucking holding on,
Speaker 2: is what he says.
Speaker 3: Do you know that book got like you know that
Speaker 3: guy got in a lot of trouble because he's made
Speaker 3: the book up, right, did he?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Fuck, you didn't know about.
Speaker 2: Any of No? I didn't wait wait, wait.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait, I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: thought you knew Wait you didn't know about this? No?
Speaker 2: Wait wait what did you get in touble for? I have?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 3: You're okay? You're fucking skateboarding super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 2: Guy?
Speaker 3: You watch South Park, don't you?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Not really? But like I do. You've never seen?
Speaker 3: Dude? You said you've you don't really like South Park?
Speaker 2: No? No, I do like it, but like I don't
Speaker 2: really watch it, Like I don't have whatever streaming platform
Speaker 2: it's on.
Speaker 3: Okay, streaming platform, dude, you're like you watched on like
Speaker 3: the TV that you play Melee on. Anyway, do you
Speaker 3: have you seen this episode of South Park called A
Speaker 3: Million Little Fibers?
Speaker 2: Uh? No, wait hold on, you said it's a Million
Speaker 2: Little Fibers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so sorry that I have to do this
Speaker 3: to you, but uh yeah, there's a South Pak episode
Speaker 3: called a Million Little You know Towley?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, So so they make basically in the in that episode,
Speaker 3: they make fun of this book. Towley writes a memoir
Speaker 3: and then like goes on Oprah and then Towleie gets
Speaker 3: in trouble because it turns out he made up a
Speaker 3: lot of his memoir and they're basically parodying this book.
Speaker 2: I am reading the little uh summary on Google as
Speaker 2: as you said it, and I see Towley sitting next
Speaker 2: to Oprah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is but this it's based off of
Speaker 3: a real thing with the real author where he got
Speaker 3: in trouble for making up that book. I'm sorry to
Speaker 3: do this to you when you said that this is
Speaker 3: the book, I'm so sorry. You're like, You're like, this
Speaker 3: is the most inspiring quote from my favorite book. It
Speaker 3: keeps me going every day, and I'm like, turns out,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know it's all a fraud, right, I'm
Speaker 3: man should keep my mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna DM this motherfucker on Instagram. I swear
Speaker 2: to God, are you reading. I'm gonna take a screenshot
Speaker 2: of Towlee. I'm gonna take the picture of Tali with
Speaker 2: the fucking mustache and a little fucking I'm blanking on
Speaker 2: the investigator's name, like the famous investigator who has the corn.
Speaker 3: Kob pipe, Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his Sherlock Holmes has. I'm taking his picture and
Speaker 2: I'm just sending it to James fray On Instagram. He
Speaker 2: will probably never see it because now his book is fake.
Speaker 3: Damn. Ok yeah large part. Yeah, there we go a
Speaker 3: million lli pieces. After a six week investigation, the Smoking
Speaker 3: Gun Publishing articles saying that they described fabrications in Frey's
Speaker 3: account of his drug abuse experiences, life and criminal record,
Speaker 3: Frey responded to the claims, saying, I've never denied, I've
Speaker 3: altered small details. I stand by the book as being
Speaker 3: the essential truth of my life.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 3: Then he appeared on Oprah again, and this time he
Speaker 3: said that the same demons that had made and turned
Speaker 3: to alcohol and other drugs had also driven him to
Speaker 3: fabricate crucial portions of his memoir. So listen, so listen, listen.
Speaker 3: Actually I'm gonna you know what, Let's do this. Let's
Speaker 3: do this, Chris. You said your name was Yeah, Chris.
Speaker 3: I think you can, if you really want to. I
Speaker 3: think you can still find inspiration in James Fray. Because
Speaker 3: because James Fray, what he did was he he did.
Speaker 3: He did your version of getting a haircut and being
Speaker 3: ready to be a menace, which is he got really
Speaker 3: fucked up and wrote a fake memoir, which sounds like
Speaker 3: something you might do if you got really fucked up
Speaker 3: and we're doing a bunch of crazy stuff. So you
Speaker 3: can still see yourself in this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's not far from Drew.
Speaker 3: M all right. Well anyway, sorry for ruining this book
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I need to tell tell my my lady
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really hurt.
Speaker 3: Chris, keep trying, keep doing anything. Thank you for sharing
Speaker 3: all this stuff about yourself. I appreciate your vulnerability as always.
Speaker 3: Was this helpful for you? Was this a good conversation
Speaker 3: to have?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, two ten in the morning right now,
Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna shout out shafter in Schafter California.
Speaker 2: I don't know they didn't expect you to call me
Speaker 2: because I tried calling like five times before you head
Speaker 2: cold and I was like, I was like, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna keep watching Animal Kingdom on my silly little iPad,
Speaker 2: and and then I saw a call and I was like,
Speaker 2: I know this number. I I'm gonna answer this. I
Speaker 2: don't even have to ask who it is.
Speaker 3: Well, Chris, is there anything else? Who I say to
Speaker 3: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: If any of you guys played Little Mac, you fucking suck.
Speaker 2: I don't care fight me.
Speaker 3: Thanks Chris. Also, oh yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Also if anyone knows about the current County Smash prostage
Speaker 2: that started at my mom's house when I.
Speaker 3: Was sixteen, Thank you for calling Chris.
Speaker 2: Thank well, have a good night. Get wait wait wait,
Speaker 2: I have one last question that I really wanted to
Speaker 2: ask before before you let me go go ahead. If
Speaker 2: I take my son as soon as I get a
Speaker 2: chance to go to one of your shows, if I
Speaker 2: take him in a baby Get Go costume and take
Speaker 2: a sword, can you knight him into the get Nation
Speaker 2: on video for me? Please listen.
Speaker 3: I don't if you just got it, like if you
Speaker 3: just got your custody back, you don't want to be
Speaker 3: doing child to be a shit like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 2: What was like a like a styrofoam sword.
Speaker 3: Bringing a child to my show is abuse of everyone
Speaker 3: else who came. Actually, I think there, I mean they
Speaker 3: shouldn't be. They should be like I think all the
Speaker 3: shows are like eight. I think there's been like like
Speaker 3: maybe teenagers have come to the shows, but never like
Speaker 3: hold your son. He's like one two.
Speaker 2: Uh one and a half and another one's three.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're gonna have a bad time.
Speaker 2: I'll just be outside the venue.
Speaker 3: If you really want to stand outside of the venue
Speaker 3: with your kid, I'll uh yeah, I'll night I'll night
Speaker 3: your child.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything in my
Speaker 2: power so that way he can be get nighted into
Speaker 2: the get nation. Thank loll fucking love your dog.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Good luck man, Thanks man, have a good night.
Speaker 3: That was Chris. If you're three years old and you're
Speaker 3: listening to this podcast, I would appreciate if you stay
Speaker 3: at home from the live shows. If you're above the
Speaker 3: age of eighteen I think in Canada sixteen some places
Speaker 3: unfortunately twenty one. But if you're reasonably an adult, then
Speaker 3: you should come to the show. Therapy Gecko tour dot
Speaker 3: com to get tickets and many places around the universe. Actually,
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck it. If you're three years old
Speaker 3: and you're listening to this podcast like on your own right,
Speaker 3: Like if you're three years old and somebody else is
Speaker 3: this podcast near you, this doesn't count. But if you're
Speaker 3: three years old and you managed to go to Spotify
Speaker 3: click on the podcast and you're like actually genuinely listening,
Speaker 3: you can come Oh yeah, you can come if you
Speaker 3: if you're like an actual genuine listener and fan of
Speaker 3: the podcast and you're three years old, then you know,
Speaker 3: go for it. Hello, Yo, what's up?
Speaker 4: Is this the therapy? Get go right now?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, this is the therapy, Get go right now?
Speaker 3: And who is this right now that I am speaking to?
Speaker 4: Oh do your My name is Jonathon Jonnason, so I
Speaker 4: go by John John John John.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: That's cute. Did somebody give you that name or did
Speaker 3: you give it to yourself?
Speaker 4: Now? My friend from like elementary gave me that name
Speaker 4: in like firstrate, and then after that I just like stuck.
Speaker 3: With it, John John. I have to ask you, are
Speaker 3: you okay? Because you sound you sound like you just
Speaker 3: woke up.
Speaker 4: No, I'm from I'm fucking faded half an edible.
Speaker 3: You're fade off and edible.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then I saw your story and I was like, bro,
Speaker 4: I God, I call this dude.
Speaker 3: Right now an edible?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Uh? Oh John John? What are you doing right now
Speaker 3: that you're fade off of an edible?
Speaker 4: Dude? I was like, I was a takeing some notes
Speaker 4: and then I was setting ahead of bed and then
Speaker 4: I saw your story an.
Speaker 3: Article you were taking notes.
Speaker 4: On what astronomy? For astronomy because I have an exam tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So you are up at what two o'clock in the morning?
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's I mean like Kelly, so like twelve am.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're at at twelve am and you are faded
Speaker 3: off an edible studying the universe. What was the most
Speaker 3: interesting thing that you learned about the universe in your
Speaker 3: notes that you wrote down?
Speaker 4: Hmmm, that's a good one. I'm laugh to like, look
Speaker 4: thank at them because it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, you should know this. This could be on the test.
Speaker 3: What's the coolest thing about the universe that could be
Speaker 3: on the test?
Speaker 1: Her?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Do you normally get faded when you study for a test?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: This is not like first time?
Speaker 3: And is it making you better or worse?
Speaker 4: In between? In between like total flight?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm here, but how's your not going?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: How's my night going?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm actual, I'm in Tokyo right now. It's five pm.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, I'm here talking to you. But anyway, listen, listen.
Speaker 3: Who cares about any who cares about anything?
Speaker 2: John? John?
Speaker 3: Is there a particular reason why you called.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just wanted to give it a
Speaker 4: shot because I started calling you before when you post it,
Speaker 4: like when you post about it, okay, And to be honest,
Speaker 4: I didn't really think I was gonna be able to
Speaker 4: like talk to you.
Speaker 3: So John, John, how's your life going as a whole?
Speaker 3: I know you have this test tomorrow, I mean, but
Speaker 3: outside of that, how's everything going?
Speaker 4: Schooling on? Like, I've been like, looky tweaking out about
Speaker 4: school and I feel like it's kind of not for
Speaker 4: me at times?
Speaker 3: That is not for you? What is causing you to
Speaker 3: tweak out?
Speaker 4: Like I just can't get like in the mindset to
Speaker 4: like care about it, if like that makes sense? You know?
Speaker 3: Do you care about anything?
Speaker 4: My girlfriend and skateboarding?
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty sweet. How long have you been with
Speaker 3: your girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Dude? Six years seven this year?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: You sound young?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I'm like I turned twenty a few months ago.
Speaker 3: Always fuck you've been with her since you were thirteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How did you guys meet like in class in middle school?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, was like you then you grew in my clothes
Speaker 4: and I was.
Speaker 3: Like yo, you were like she was the new girl
Speaker 3: in your class and you were like yo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yo, because like I kind of knew you
Speaker 4: were because she was a pretty tall girl. I was
Speaker 4: like a pretty short kid and cool. I haven't skateboarding
Speaker 4: since I was in like seventh Gates, like maybe like
Speaker 4: six or seven ish years.
Speaker 3: Can you do a kick flip?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Can you do a tray flip? That's the real question. Okay,
Speaker 3: was your does your girlfriend? Is your girlfriend attracted to
Speaker 3: the skateboarding skills?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, I would no. Is she active? Does she actively
Speaker 3: find them childish?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I show my clips sometimes.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I'm like, yo, look at this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Sorry, I didn't mean you off.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, so you show her like clips
Speaker 3: of like you you clear, like a set of stairs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then and then you show her the video of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I did my first tents there and I had
Speaker 4: her with me for it and she recorded it.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so she's supportive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's nice. Like it was like a pretty
Speaker 4: mental battle like the tents there, and then like I
Speaker 4: finally had the courage for it to like do it,
Speaker 4: and I was pretty stoked too.
Speaker 3: Have you ever fucked yourself up doing any of this?
Speaker 3: Like broken any bones.
Speaker 4: Oh, thankfully not, just like willing my ankles. Mm hmmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you said that school is not for you? What
Speaker 3: is for you?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: What do you want to do with your life? You're
Speaker 3: pretty young guy, do you have thoughts about how you
Speaker 3: want to spend your days on the earth?
Speaker 4: Hmm? I WoT That's why I was kind of like
Speaker 4: worried about school, like like like tweeting out about it
Speaker 4: because I don't know what I want to do. And
Speaker 4: then then like school feels like it has that guide
Speaker 4: towards where I can be, but I just like I
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know, like school is in for me,
Speaker 4: and then without school, I can't have a sense of
Speaker 4: the direction of where I'm going in life. M hmm.
Speaker 3: What do you study asta? Astronomy?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I know, psychology?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, mm hmmm. It's it's an interesting conundrum.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, man. You you know,
Speaker 3: it's tough to be like a young like eighteen to
Speaker 3: twenty year old right now because you're going into a
Speaker 3: The world gets kind of rapidly exponentially more uncertain every year,
Speaker 3: so you're going into a bit of an uncertain universe.
Speaker 3: But there are still a certain constants to the universe
Speaker 3: that remain. Do you have a job of any kind?
Speaker 3: Do you make money in any way?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have two jobs.
Speaker 3: What do you What do you do jobs?
Speaker 4: I work at ross and then I work at this
Speaker 4: poky place with my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Oh you work at the poke place with your girlfriend?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, how okay? If your life is exactly the same
Speaker 3: right now when you're like thirty, would you be happy
Speaker 3: with that? Genuine question?
Speaker 4: No? Like, if I'm like exact cooler I'm at right now.
Speaker 3: Like that, Yeah, if you're exactly where you are right now,
Speaker 3: you're working in a couple of jobs, skateboarding, hanging out
Speaker 3: with your girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Uh, probably, like fine, if like I'm able to manage,
Speaker 4: But like, if I don't have like an actual career,
Speaker 4: probably not. Mm yeah, I feel I kind of thought
Speaker 4: about like switching it. But I'm already like two years
Speaker 4: deep into this.
Speaker 3: Oh what the fuck you know? You're not le me
Speaker 3: say something. You're not too deep into anything. You're you're
Speaker 3: in your infancy of existence, I think. Oh, I mean
Speaker 3: you're in your You're you're in your You're not in
Speaker 3: your infancy of existence, but you're in your career infancy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I kind of I thought about switching
Speaker 4: it to like something like with mechanics. I feel like
Speaker 4: there's always going to be like some type of work there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think two years of college is a little too
Speaker 3: early to be subscribing to the sock the sunk cost fallacy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I see, dude, you said.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm keeping you up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: No, not of mind though, all right, unless you like
Speaker 4: pretty stoked to like be talking to you.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty stoked to be talking to you too, man.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, like there's there were still guys
Speaker 3: out there who were chill like that for real, for real?
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you therapy cool John John?
Speaker 3: Is there anything else? Who I say to the people
Speaker 3: of the computer before we go, Uh.
Speaker 4: Hope you guys have a good last night.
Speaker 3: Swag and.
Speaker 4: Oh I recently started living, like trying to live every
Speaker 4: day like it's my last. Like I tried putting it
Speaker 4: in one effort everything I do. I think everyone should
Speaker 4: do the same.
Speaker 3: And yeah, well you can't do Yeah, you have a
Speaker 3: you have a good one, John John, God bless you.
Speaker 3: We'll see you around the.
Speaker 4: Universe, man, hope to see you around.
Speaker 3: That was John John. He's about a sleep for I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know what John John's deal is.
Speaker 3: He was an interesting guy. He was very sleepy. He
Speaker 3: sounded a little a little, uh, a little like whacked out,
Speaker 3: but maybe in a nice way. You can't really live
Speaker 3: your you can't really live every day like it's your last.
Speaker 3: Because if if, if today was my last down Earth,
Speaker 3: I would uh probably do more drastic things, you know,
Speaker 3: I'd i'd uh, i'd spend every dollar I had. I'd
Speaker 3: I'd probably committed at least a couple of crimes, right,
Speaker 3: like ones that are victimless, like you know, well, I
Speaker 3: don't know, like steal stuff from like a Walmart, although
Speaker 3: I know I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't go to
Speaker 3: Walmart on my last day. I probably talk, I probably
Speaker 3: hang out with my family and friends. No, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: commit any crimes. There's no real crimes I want to commit.
Speaker 3: I'd like to commit tax fraud, but if you're if
Speaker 3: it's your last day on Earth, there's no point in
Speaker 3: committing tax fraud because what's the point of pay your taxes.
Speaker 3: Don't pay your taxes, You're going to die, you know,
Speaker 3: So I have a little off track, but uh yeah,
Speaker 3: thanks Jean John.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello is this Lyle?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir? Who's this?
Speaker 1: Holy Molly? This is Uh. We'll go with David.
Speaker 3: David, David David and Goliath Camp David. That's where the
Speaker 3: president goes to h bread. Uh David Copperfield, famous magician.
Speaker 3: Not sure what he's up to these days.
Speaker 1: Either.
Speaker 3: Fid Schwimmer one of the popular UH Friends actors. He
Speaker 3: played one of the friends. He's your friend, he's my friend,
Speaker 3: He's everyone's friend. Uh, throw it in, Throw anyone in.
Speaker 3: I tried to do this with someone else. They want
Speaker 3: to do it because give me anyone, give me anyone.
Speaker 1: Isn't I don't know. I'm David.
Speaker 2: I guess he did the same thing.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even have to be It doesn't even have
Speaker 3: to be a David. Come on, give me something.
Speaker 1: David isn't the DJ.
Speaker 3: No DJ, anyone anyone anything. It doesn't DJ DJ Howe Mandel,
Speaker 3: How we know?
Speaker 1: Man? I really I don't even know if it's David
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Listen. Doesn't have to be anyone, Howie Mandel? Uh do
Speaker 3: you work with? Give me the name of somebody that
Speaker 3: you work with.
Speaker 1: The name of someone who I work with, like.
Speaker 3: Right now, yes, yes, right now.
Speaker 2: I don't work with a David.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a David, just like Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: Come on something, someone, anyone, anything, just say stuff. It
Speaker 3: doesn't We're gonna it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: Everything.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing right now. Oh, Ellen degenerous?
Speaker 3: Do you know Ellen?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the universe, she's madder in the universe. You know,
Speaker 3: we're beyond David. We're in the realm of everything. We're
Speaker 3: in the universe. Right What is chef to these days?
Speaker 3: She's playing she's in Finding uh Dory two.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, who cares?
Speaker 3: Who cares about anything?
Speaker 1: David cares?
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 1: Well, I can't. I can't believe I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You're like you're a pan right now, aren't you?
Speaker 3: Doctor Phil? He's something, David? What is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That made you want to call me today?
Speaker 1: Man, Well, I'm camping in the back of my car
Speaker 1: right now in Seattle. I'm not from Seattle, but trying
Speaker 1: to sleep, but I can't really sleep. I've called you
Speaker 1: like twenty times. I'm a little, a little under the
Speaker 1: influence of some substances to help me fall asleep. I
Speaker 1: was like, let me call a while one more time,
Speaker 1: but he'll like, we're here. We're here now. So it's sick.
Speaker 3: What is it that is making it so that you
Speaker 3: are in your car right now?
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think just to I don't know, just
Speaker 1: to save a little money and got another Sorry, got
Speaker 1: at another trip next week ago, drive down to San Diego.
Speaker 1: I'm in the PNW obviously, but not from Seattle. But
Speaker 1: I've came here for the day. We've not shitty days off,
Speaker 1: got Tuesdays and Wednesdays off, but trying to make the
Speaker 1: most of it.
Speaker 3: You know, m what do you do on these shitty
Speaker 3: Tuesdays and Wednesdays as you call them?
Speaker 1: Try to do as much as I can. I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to meet more people. But you know, actually I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful to other people I've met so far on
Speaker 1: these Tuesdays and Wednesdays. I met some really great people
Speaker 1: who are willing to come hang out with me and
Speaker 1: make the effort to hang out with me on my
Speaker 1: terrible days off though they have the weekends off, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm, you know, just trying to put myself out
Speaker 1: there some more of these days and trying to do
Speaker 1: some more for myself.
Speaker 3: What ways are you putting yourself out there?
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to meet more people, trying to actively
Speaker 1: like socialize with people strangers. You know, I'll just like
Speaker 1: go up to them and strict conversation or trick my
Speaker 1: friends out or you know, like I'm kind of interesting
Speaker 1: because I've I guess there's a word like ambrovert, like
Speaker 1: a little bit of both, like introvert and extrovert. But
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be more extroverted these days, meet more
Speaker 1: people because I've found myself most of my life being introverted,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just finally getting out of my shell.
Speaker 1: I'm in my late twenties now. I think it's a
Speaker 1: little something that comes with age possibly, but also another
Speaker 1: circumstance of like, uh, getting out of a long term
Speaker 1: relationship has also been wanting to or actually pushing me
Speaker 1: to want to meet more people and to get out
Speaker 1: of like that sort of rut.
Speaker 3: You know, you said that you've met some people already.
Speaker 3: Who who are these people? How did you meet them?
Speaker 1: I'm into I think for anyone that's listening, like if
Speaker 1: you're trying to get into the new hobby. Like rock
Speaker 1: climbing is a great hobby, whether you exercise or not,
Speaker 1: Like it's a great social sport. So I've met some
Speaker 1: really great people through that, and then after that I'll
Speaker 1: invite them for like some drinks or something and extend
Speaker 1: our hangout and we'll do that. So it's a little
Speaker 1: social exercising plus you know, get that little socially like
Speaker 1: just having some drinks and that sort of thing and
Speaker 1: having some fun that sort of way.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're able to connect with all
Speaker 3: that many people.
Speaker 1: I'm trying the best I can, you know. I I
Speaker 1: texted you a while ago one of my issues that
Speaker 1: worked night shift, and it's been very crueling. I feel
Speaker 1: like I can't escape that night work from several jobs.
Speaker 1: So I know that it's difficult to meet people when
Speaker 1: you're sleeping through the day, but I do the best
Speaker 1: to try to, you know, wake up early even I'm tired.
Speaker 1: You know, I never get that great of rest, but
Speaker 1: I still like, you know, get my coffee in and
Speaker 1: go out an exercise, climb and hang out with some friends,
Speaker 1: go out on my weekends even though it's on the weekdays.
Speaker 1: You know, try to meet people, just do the best
Speaker 1: that I can when it comes to that sort of
Speaker 1: thing and socializing, because I really I work with a
Speaker 1: smat crew at work, and it's like we're all busy.
Speaker 1: They paid us pretty decently, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's just that incentive to make sure you're doing a
Speaker 1: decent job, you know. So it's hard to socialize, especially
Speaker 1: when it's very busy. When it's a little slow, it's
Speaker 1: a it's okay to chat here and there, but when
Speaker 1: it's busy, it's like, you know, you're by yourself at times,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I feel that I wish I
Speaker 1: was like talking to more people, but I don't feel
Speaker 1: that much too much these days because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: socialize more, you know. But you know, your podcast keep
Speaker 1: me very busy, and you know, it's it's nice to have,
Speaker 1: so thank you for that.
Speaker 3: What Oh, of course, man, I'm honored to be hanging
Speaker 3: out with you in the forklift. Which brings me to
Speaker 3: my next question. What is the process of becoming forklift certified?
Speaker 1: You know, I know that there's been a couple of
Speaker 1: some people brought up being a forklift driver. There's that
Speaker 1: one episode of like the one girl that's like really
Speaker 1: into her boyfriend's a forklift driver. Whi's quite funny?
Speaker 3: Is that true? Are the ladies all over you with
Speaker 3: the forklift stuff?
Speaker 1: I feel, I mean someone still I know that there's
Speaker 1: a trend of like being a forklift driver, server fight
Speaker 1: or whatever is like the hottest thing, and some people
Speaker 1: still remember that when I bring it up, and that's
Speaker 1: pretty sweet. But to be forklifts surf that's not doesn't
Speaker 1: take very much.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like a little golf car or something. It's a
Speaker 1: It takes a couple of months or so to get
Speaker 1: like decent at it. It's not the hardest thing in
Speaker 1: the world, honestly, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: What's your ultimate dream?
Speaker 1: Create an ultimate dream? Oh man? I think just trying
Speaker 1: to make the most out of life.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've my parents are have immigrated and they're all about work, work, work,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm kind of like the black
Speaker 1: sheet of the sheep of the family, where I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I work a lot, but I also want to have
Speaker 1: as much fun as I work, you know, and try
Speaker 1: to experience and see as much as I can before
Speaker 1: I die. Like one of my things is like I
Speaker 1: do not want to be on my deathbed and like
Speaker 1: regret not seeing more, you know, And I'm sure you
Speaker 1: could relate to that.
Speaker 3: What what have you yet to do that you would
Speaker 3: regret not doing on your deathbed?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Have I yet to do? I mean I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: I feel that like right now I'm actively doing that.
Speaker 1: Like There's been so many times where I doubt myself
Speaker 1: of like like I'll think, like something to do like
Speaker 1: this last few days, like to the last minute trip,
Speaker 1: like I'm getting I booked a but an appointment for
Speaker 1: a tattoo today. Technically I'm like should I go because
Speaker 1: I work nights? Should I go the night of my
Speaker 1: day off and see, try to meet some people, go out,
Speaker 1: get some drinks, and then like you know, do my
Speaker 1: tattoo like the next day, you know. And I was
Speaker 1: like just doubting myself, like is that worth doing? Or
Speaker 1: should I just stay at home and like feel comfortable
Speaker 1: and then go the next day?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: But I'm like, let me try to get out of
Speaker 1: my shell and try to experience something new and get
Speaker 1: out of that comfort zone, you know, So trying to
Speaker 1: do more of like a little last minut when it
Speaker 1: comes to things. But you know that can be funny.
Speaker 1: You know, you never know what can come out of it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I need to do more of like
Speaker 1: let's go do that one thing that you know I
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't do. So I'm trying to do more of that,
Speaker 1: trying to plan some more thing things that sort of
Speaker 1: thing out.
Speaker 3: You know, you have any big plans on the horizon.
Speaker 1: I want to just visit more of the country. I'm
Speaker 1: in the US, but I want to visit Canada some more.
Speaker 1: I want to visit Mexico some more, hopefully go to
Speaker 1: Europe one day. That sort of thing. Just need to
Speaker 1: see more things, meet more people, just actively do as
Speaker 1: much as I can so that one day I don't
Speaker 1: regret like not doing enough, you know.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
Speaker 3: And so you're in kind of a nomadic vibe right now.
Speaker 3: You're out there in you're in your car.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, I am in my car. I forgot
Speaker 1: you know. I've got a little camping set up. It's
Speaker 1: pretty chill. Got a little inflatable bed that have been
Speaker 1: in the back of my car. I've got little uh
Speaker 1: wind show covers as though I forgot the front wind
Speaker 1: show cover. So hopefully I don't get in any trouble
Speaker 1: in the morning. But I'm like, it's a city, like
Speaker 1: there's a bigger fish to fry around here, So hopefully
Speaker 1: I don't get in any trouble.
Speaker 3: But how much how much longer are you going to
Speaker 3: stay on the road for before you pick a place
Speaker 3: to to hang out at?
Speaker 1: Well, I do, I do have a home. I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, traveling. I'm on the road a lot. I
Speaker 1: love to drive. I love to just I don't spend
Speaker 1: a lot of if I'm not at work. I spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time either at like climbing or just
Speaker 1: driving somewhere, or at work obviously because I have to
Speaker 1: be at work. But besides I hate being at home,
Speaker 1: like I just I'm just at home to sleep. But
Speaker 1: besides that, I love to just like drive, listen to
Speaker 1: music on the drive, just driving my car. I enjoy
Speaker 1: driving my car, you know, And it's a really really
Speaker 1: important thing to do if you're trying to like drive
Speaker 1: ten hours ago to like a national park or do something,
Speaker 1: you know, like you gotta enjoy driving a little bit
Speaker 1: at least.
Speaker 3: No, I'm the same way like when I when I
Speaker 3: was first kind of starting doing this podcast in my
Speaker 3: mom's basement. I I just couldn't, like I had to
Speaker 3: go out, and it's like during COVID, so like my
Speaker 3: I had, I would have that. I would record from
Speaker 3: like six pm to nine pm and then uh, it
Speaker 3: would be like late and I would just like get
Speaker 3: in my car and I would drive to the parking
Speaker 3: lot of a Dick's Sporting Goods and I would just
Speaker 3: like smoke weed in the car and listen to music,
Speaker 3: just like in the middle of the night, like that
Speaker 3: was my night out.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was actually it was. It was pretty fucking chill.
Speaker 3: I would eat Jack in the Box. It was chill time, man,
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, those were those were
Speaker 3: chill nights, just.
Speaker 1: Like uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Very uh yeah, very low five vibes. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: like a catgirl, a catgirl, no, you know, the fucking
Speaker 3: cat girl with the uh you know, the lo fi
Speaker 3: hip hop beats.
Speaker 2: Lady.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was that oh yeah, oh but
Speaker 1: that in your car, dude, Yeah, definitely. Like yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just like thinking of all the things about you and
Speaker 1: like one of the things that you've mentioned on this podcast,
Speaker 1: like journaling, Like I personally journal as well, but also
Speaker 1: like being in your car is gives you just that
Speaker 1: space to like think a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like your little permal journal in a way.
Speaker 1: Like your car is kind of like you bond with
Speaker 1: your car even and it's like you get to think
Speaker 1: in your car. You eat, you can like listen to music,
Speaker 1: sleep in your car, like talk too while on the
Speaker 1: film in the car, Like these are memories I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have with my car for as long as I have
Speaker 1: this car for, you know, So that's special experience.
Speaker 3: I know, I talk a lot about how I hate cars,
Speaker 3: but I do miss like sitting in them parked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like being in a car much better when it's
Speaker 3: parked randomly than where it's like parked in a in
Speaker 3: a place, than when it's uh, you know, driving down
Speaker 3: the highway about to kill me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's those car naps can can hit pretty
Speaker 1: good sometimes too. I'll like I'll take a break if
Speaker 1: it's like a really bad night, I'll take a little
Speaker 1: fifteen break on in my car and just hit that
Speaker 1: nap and it HiT's differently.
Speaker 3: What's your name again, brother, David?
Speaker 1: David?
Speaker 3: How to forget David? It's like a David. There's a
Speaker 3: guy with a camp with named day Is. Name is
Speaker 3: u Is. I don't know if he's still alive. Probably
Speaker 3: he's probably.
Speaker 1: My I crazy to think about, like people that you
Speaker 1: grow up with and you're like, are there's still a
Speaker 1: lot if you know games, they.
Speaker 3: Could be dead. Life is fragile. Just because they're probably
Speaker 3: twenty eight doesn't mean they're probably alive. You know, they
Speaker 3: could be. There's a lot of it's a lot of
Speaker 3: good out there now. There's a lot of shootings. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But hopefully did you ever get COVID?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got COVID a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever gotten COVID, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: I feel like you just jinxed yourself. Now you're going
Speaker 3: to wake up with it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I tend to get sick like at least once a month,
Speaker 1: and I think that's because like, like I never sleep,
Speaker 1: which is such a struggle. One of my issues currently
Speaker 1: is like I never really sleep, and so I feel
Speaker 1: like my immune system is just like to the dirt,
Speaker 1: and so I get sick at least once a month.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I've done sick terribly. But I've
Speaker 1: tested for COVID. I never gotten it so far, and
Speaker 1: I know it's still lingering around here and there, But
Speaker 1: so far, so good, I guess.
Speaker 3: David, is there anything else who want to say to
Speaker 3: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: Speaking, I want to say, I think I want to say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, don't like if you have and you have
Speaker 1: and you feel a little like apprehensive, like just do it.
Speaker 1: Like it comes to anything like traveling, you should definitely
Speaker 1: do it. You know, more people should travel, more people
Speaker 1: should see the world, experience people like that's what life
Speaker 1: is about. You know, like there's nothing wrong with like
Speaker 1: chilling at home, but you know, life is exists outside
Speaker 1: of the internet sometimes, you know, that's where you can
Speaker 1: real truly make some real connections and don't we know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good, it's good. But also like parcast exists on
Speaker 1: the internet, so I get it to be on the internet,
Speaker 1: but meet people travel that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Hey, David, thanks for calling and listening.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you have a good rest of your evening
Speaker 3: in your.
Speaker 1: Car sounds good, man. That's talking to you too, see you, David.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in life you got to hang out in your car.
Speaker 2: There a be get goes on the line, taking your
Speaker 2: phone calls every night.
Speaker 3: There repeat Cant goes to his eight.
Speaker 1: You're just teaching you.
Speaker 4: To a house, to your life.
Speaker 3: But he's not really an expert.