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Speaker 1: How is the feedback? How are the vibes in the
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Speaker 2: Florio?
Speaker 3: Last week was relatively good outside of the Bengals. I'm
Speaker 3: really trying not to check comments though, because, uh, I mean,
Speaker 3: what good comes from that? But speaking of Rebecca Black,
Speaker 3: I love that she's like, what seat can I take?
Speaker 3: And then they show the car and there's only one
Speaker 3: seat available.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, who knows?
Speaker 1: Maybe she was gonna flex and just somebody else like,
Speaker 1: get out the get out of the passenger seat.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, I have never seen that video. I'm
Speaker 2: Rebecca Black. Damn it. Uh you gotta watch it?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, we're gonna make Lakwang this is gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Lakwan's Film Festival. You have to watch.
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Speaker 1: onto less hilarious news. Uh starts since if you go
Speaker 1: across and you talking about some interesting ones, Uh, Floyd
Speaker 1: let's started quarterback?
Speaker 2: Who is up and who's down?
Speaker 3: Uh? I know last week I said if jayde and
Speaker 3: Daniels went out and had a good week against a
Speaker 3: good defense, he becomes a must start. But this being
Speaker 3: against the Ravens felt like that final step, right. Having
Speaker 3: him as a start against this defense means you start
Speaker 3: him every single week. So Jade and Daniels, congratulations there
Speaker 3: h Jordan Love, I'm continuing to ride with, especially against
Speaker 3: the Cardinals. Dak Prescott I think is a mustard option
Speaker 3: this week against the Lions, justin fields because the vague
Speaker 3: the Raiders get ran all over and he could do
Speaker 3: some of that running. And then all Williams is someone
Speaker 3: that I am actually excited to be starting in a
Speaker 3: couple of leagues this week. And then Jared Goff not
Speaker 3: a must sit, but I don't think he's people's only quarterback.
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys have been stingy against quarterbacks this year.
Speaker 3: They struggle against the run. We know that's a specialty
Speaker 3: of the Lions. Like for me, Daniels love dak All
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that I have with Goff that I'm playing over him.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is absolutely unusable in fantasy right now. You
Speaker 3: should put him on the waiver wire before you put
Speaker 3: him in the starting lineup. Trevor Lawrence. The Bears have
Speaker 3: been elite right now on defense, especially against the pass,
Speaker 3: and then Aaron Rodgers, he has not been good outside
Speaker 3: of a game against the Patriots. The Bills secondary has
Speaker 3: been good. So I just don't think this is a
Speaker 3: week you want to get the Jets qb one in.
Speaker 1: You know, we were excited about Aaron Rodgers in the
Speaker 1: sense of we expected it to lift Garrett Wilson. We
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna make Breeze Hall that much better LaQuan.
Speaker 1: That has not happened so far. Change in play, Rogers, Buddy,
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett losing the gig, Todd Downing taking it over.
Speaker 1: I know we talked a little bit about this on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Does this potentially make Aaron Rodgers better or is it
Speaker 1: just the case that he's a forty year old quarterback
Speaker 1: coming off in achilles injury.
Speaker 4: It might be a bit of both, just being that,
Speaker 4: you know, you just rip play calling from one of
Speaker 4: his best friends I would call him Sam in this
Speaker 4: situation of Jerry shore sor but it's it's a little
Speaker 4: weird to see Aaron Rodgers to be playing at this
Speaker 4: level right now, being that he's such a great quarterback
Speaker 4: with a lot of accolades and stuff like that, but
Speaker 4: he is forty one years old and this old line
Speaker 4: is sketchy and just overall his connection with Garrett Wilson
Speaker 4: is definitely in question of like is it more so
Speaker 4: of like an ego thing where he's punishing him where
Speaker 4: he's looking at on the czar or he's like, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to earn your keep. So it's a lot
Speaker 4: of just a storylines that again we need to just
Speaker 4: let play out and kind of figure out week to
Speaker 4: week what's gonna happen Florida.
Speaker 1: You sort of talked about this in the preseason of
Speaker 1: the like, hey, you know, are we a little bit
Speaker 1: too high hyped on Garrett Wilson. Some of it is
Speaker 1: he's had some really really tough matchups to start the season,
Speaker 1: But are we gonna have a real conversation about Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson next year in terms of what his ADP is
Speaker 1: gonna be.
Speaker 3: I think so because even like last week, one hundred
Speaker 3: yards great, but it took twenty two targets to get there.
Speaker 3: And one thing, I don't think it's all Garrett Wilson's fault.
Speaker 3: I think it's two things. One, I think Garrett Wilson
Speaker 3: is like a Tier two wide receiver that we try
Speaker 3: to make a Tier one. Tier one to me is
Speaker 3: the special guys, the Ceede Lambs, the Jamar Chases, Aman Ross,
Speaker 3: Saint Brown's AJ Brown, those guys Malik Neighbors. I'm putting
Speaker 3: in that category as well, who can thrive no matter
Speaker 3: the situation, the quarterback, everything else. Wilson, I don't know
Speaker 3: if he's quite to that level. But also the play calling,
Speaker 3: like these other teams do what they have to do
Speaker 3: to try to get their best player of the ball
Speaker 3: as much as possible, whereas the Jets, it seems like
Speaker 3: they're using Garrett Wilson to be like, all right, you're
Speaker 3: gonna take all the defensive attention so that Alan Lazard
Speaker 3: could be open, And it just doesn't seem like smart
Speaker 3: planning and coaching to.
Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, Look, I think at this point we all
Speaker 1: sort of know what Nathaniel Hackett is as a play caller,
Speaker 1: which is part of the reason he's not a play
Speaker 1: caller currently in the league.
Speaker 2: So I think that has a.
Speaker 1: Lot to do with what we're seeing so Far's move
Speaker 1: over to running backs, your starts and sits there.
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs coming off of one of his best, his
Speaker 3: best fantasy game of the year. I'm riding with him
Speaker 3: again this week against the Cardinals. A lot of Packers
Speaker 3: love You're gonna see this week. Tony Pollard gets so
Speaker 3: much volume and the Colts have struggled against the run
Speaker 3: this year that I think you just continue starting Pollard.
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is someone that I know we've all talked
Speaker 3: up this week, and the Jags can they struggle against
Speaker 3: the past the run. I'm pretty sure we could make
Speaker 3: an NFL fantasy team and go get a touchdown against
Speaker 3: this Jags defense right now. Najie Harris because he gets
Speaker 3: so much volume and the Raiders really struggle against the run.
Speaker 3: And Chase Brown is someone I'm very excited for this week.
Speaker 3: I think a huge week is coming for him. The
Speaker 3: Giants really struggle against pass catching and explosive backs. Brian
Speaker 3: Robinson Jr. I have as a sit which seems spicier
Speaker 3: until he missed practiced two days in a row to
Speaker 3: begin this week. But if he plays, I think if
Speaker 3: you have another option, you take it. Rashad White is
Speaker 3: just not getting enough volume right now. His targets are
Speaker 3: going down and he has not topped eleven fantasy points
Speaker 3: in four straight games. Devin Singletary because Tyrone Tracy could
Speaker 3: eat into his workload, and anytime a running back is
Speaker 3: coming off of a groin injury, one that's easily retweakable.
Speaker 3: I take a little pause. Rico dal Is taking over
Speaker 3: the Cowboys backfield, but that doesn't mean you want to
Speaker 3: play him against the best run defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And then Zamir White, Alexander Madison Ameredula. I don't want
Speaker 3: to play any of them against the Steelers, but whoever starts,
Speaker 3: you can almost guarantee that the RB two is going
Speaker 3: to have the better fantasy day.
Speaker 1: So Lakwan as the leading Brian Robinson junior stan on
Speaker 1: this show, would you like to re mister Florio's proposition here?
Speaker 4: No, because he might have a point man. He's banged up,
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't even want to go out there and
Speaker 4: roll the dice on Brian Robinson Junior, you know, banged up,
Speaker 4: And I honestly think this isn't even a great matchup
Speaker 4: where the Ravens are just very good at stopping the run.
Speaker 4: Their past defense may suck, but they're still good at
Speaker 4: stopping the run. So I'm not gonna test their chin
Speaker 4: when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, fair enough? So I was I
Speaker 1: was crazy, and I say it's like a deep deep sleeper.
Speaker 1: You have Tony Polls to start, I have Spears is
Speaker 1: like a deep sleeper? Am I am? I talking out
Speaker 1: of my head? What am I doing?
Speaker 2: I don't think? So okay, I don't like it.
Speaker 3: All right, it's a good matchup. We think Spears is
Speaker 3: a good player. He just needs volume, right, so like
Speaker 3: if he gets a little bit more volume, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: right now, right, let's get Spears. The only difference is
Speaker 3: is Pollard is playing well in ETN is not?
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, we need all he just needs volume.
Speaker 1: This is why I like doing a show with you guys.
Speaker 1: You validating some of my weirder theories on this show.
Speaker 2: Wide receivers for who do you like? Who do you
Speaker 2: not like?
Speaker 3: Lakwan spoke him up on the show yesterday, but I
Speaker 3: love Dj Moore this week against the Jaguars. I spoke
Speaker 3: him up yesterday. But Zay Flowers against the Commanders is
Speaker 3: someone that I'm really excited for him. Don't call me
Speaker 3: bias in this one, because I think you start Terry
Speaker 3: McLaurin as well, Jayden Reed, don Tavian Wicks. Reed is
Speaker 3: a must start if Jordan Love plays, but Wicks has
Speaker 3: twenty targets in his last two games last week. Disappointed
Speaker 3: a bit, but still I believe led the team in targets.
Speaker 3: And then call me crazy Amari Cooper because he's top
Speaker 3: four in targets and air yards in the NFL right
Speaker 3: now and the Eagles struggle against the deep ball. And
Speaker 3: then I have Garrett Wilson as a sit because he
Speaker 3: averages less than twelve fantasy points per game against the
Speaker 3: Bills in his career, and in two games against him
Speaker 3: last year, he was held to forty two yards. I
Speaker 3: know it's a different quarterback and he's not a must sit,
Speaker 3: but if you have another wide receiver or flex option
Speaker 3: that you feel good about out. I think this is
Speaker 3: a week you could take it. I'm taking a wait
Speaker 3: and see approach with Tank Dell. This is something that
Speaker 3: Lakwan touched on on the show yesterday. And then Courtland's
Speaker 3: set in against the Chargers and all of the Chargers
Speaker 3: receivers against the Broncos. I don't want to start a
Speaker 3: single pass catcher in that game.
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to start a player in
Speaker 1: that game. No, yeah, you know, just that the Broncos
Speaker 1: offense is a mess. The Chargers have to deal with
Speaker 1: the Broncos defense. That's a tough matchup. I think that
Speaker 1: game could be nine to seven. I don't think I
Speaker 1: want any parts of that game six to three.
Speaker 2: This could be six to three. Start the kickers. I
Speaker 2: don't know that might be what you want in this one.
Speaker 1: LaQuan, how are you looking at Dontavian Wicks, because obviously
Speaker 1: the production was not great just the two catches last week,
Speaker 1: but he had seven targets. I mean, are we is
Speaker 1: this a trust the process or is it just like
Speaker 1: hey man, the results aren't what we wanted.
Speaker 4: I think trust the process, like Vyum will always be
Speaker 4: king to me man and Jordan Love is going back
Speaker 4: to him. It's not like Jordan Love is getting frustrated
Speaker 4: with some of those throws, and some of those throws
Speaker 4: aren't really deon Tavian Wick's fault, you know, right now
Speaker 4: is looking like he can't catch the ball. He's dropping everything.
Speaker 4: But a lot of times these are difficult balls for
Speaker 4: a young player to go out there and catch. So
Speaker 4: when you really watch the film of him playing, and
Speaker 4: it's like growing pain. So I think as the season
Speaker 4: progresses and he gets these opportunities, Ryan will always ring
Speaker 4: king in my book, and these will translate to fantasy
Speaker 4: points eventually.
Speaker 1: All Right, So we are still on the Dantavian Wicks train,
Speaker 1: still very curious to see what's going on with Romeo Dobbs.
Speaker 1: That's it's a weird situation there when you know we
Speaker 1: haven't heard much on the outside.
Speaker 2: I get it though.
Speaker 4: You know, on the Internet a lot of people saying
Speaker 4: that he's not the sexiest fantasy pick. So it may
Speaker 4: be a little bit of him just watching too much
Speaker 4: of the internet right now.
Speaker 1: I guess I would hope that I would hope that,
Speaker 1: you know, I hope he wouldn't put a lot of
Speaker 1: stock into what we say.
Speaker 3: I think he realized, despite playing the most snaps, all
Speaker 3: of the other three receivers get more targets when they're
Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah, and he's probably not too happy
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: That frustration. I mean, I do get that frustration.
Speaker 1: But you know, as a lot of really smart people
Speaker 1: who watch a lot of really you watch a lot
Speaker 1: of wide receiver tape have told me frequently, targets are
Speaker 1: earned and not given, and at some point, if you're
Speaker 1: not earning those opportunities, you know, maybe it's it's time
Speaker 1: to sort of look at what you're doing and try
Speaker 1: to figure out your own process a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's just me. I just talk about fake football for
Speaker 2: a living.
Speaker 1: Finally, last, but not least, we have to talk about
Speaker 1: tight ends Floorio, because it's a thing that we have
Speaker 1: to do. I'm sure it's probably the most depressing part
Speaker 1: of your week having to write about tight ends. It
Speaker 1: starts sitting. But yeah, please, if you could pull yourself
Speaker 1: out of your adul drums, please help us.
Speaker 3: It is second behind kickers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I do my start sip kickers.
Speaker 3: Immediately because I'm like, I want to get that out
Speaker 3: of the way. Tight Ends are usually the last position
Speaker 3: I'd write about. But Brock Bowers I have as a
Speaker 3: Mustard option movie. He leads you pick a category, he
Speaker 3: probably leads tight ends in it. Right now, Dalton Kincaid,
Speaker 3: because the Jets secondary so good at taking out wide
Speaker 3: receivers that I think this and James Cook is banged
Speaker 3: up right now, I think it's going to be a
Speaker 3: Kincaid week. Kyle Pitts cam Wolf came out last week
Speaker 3: and said they want to get into the ball more.
Speaker 3: They then he had his second best game fantasy wise
Speaker 3: in the last three years Panthers struggled against tight ends.
Speaker 3: He brings upside, which is more than most tight ends
Speaker 3: can say. Tucker Craft, I don't see how you get
Speaker 3: away from him right now. In fact, in my home league,
Speaker 3: I am strongly going back and forth between Tucker Craft
Speaker 3: or Sam Laporta. That's where we are at right now
Speaker 3: with him and then and then Since Mark Andrews and
Speaker 3: Isaiah Likely last week was a step in the right
Speaker 3: direction for them, but their usage was still far from ideal,
Speaker 3: and the Commanders have not allowed a top ten tight
Speaker 3: end this year. I want to take a wait and
Speaker 3: see approach with Dalton Schultz. Week two was fun for
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, but his other four games combined are less
Speaker 3: productive than that. And then Mike Koseki. There's just not
Speaker 3: enough volume when t Higgins and Jamar Chaser out there. Uh.
Speaker 3: But selfishly, I want to ask you guys, would you
Speaker 3: play Tucker Craft or Sam Laporta tough one.
Speaker 1: I might go Tucker Craft just because his t that's
Speaker 1: what I'm leaning. Stucker Show has been a little bit
Speaker 1: more consistent. Jameson Williams has just wrecked Sam Laporta's value
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 4: I think they figured out the new identity because the
Speaker 4: number support like this offense is way better than it
Speaker 4: was last season, like in some major categories, and you're
Speaker 4: looking at it like, man, Sam Laporta is a great player,
Speaker 4: but he's on the outside looking in right now with
Speaker 4: like eleven percent target share right now, so he's not
Speaker 4: that involved in the offense as he was last season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really might go Tucker Craft and maybe this
Speaker 1: recency bias, but you know, it's all we got to do,
Speaker 1: that's all we got to work on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, his last two games are better
Speaker 3: than any game Laporta has had this year. It's not close.
Speaker 2: No, it's really not.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Mike Gasiki as a sit and I
Speaker 1: get it, the volume is not really there any deep
Speaker 1: level interest in like an Eric All, who I feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to maybe start a tight end takeover
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I mean, I am, I look on my am,
Speaker 1: I you know, am my nuts, Am I talking on
Speaker 1: my head again about this or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I mean all the hype over to summer was about
Speaker 4: how great Eric All was with but he was injured
Speaker 4: so therefore we didn't really see much in the summer.
Speaker 4: But I think the hype around him is true coming
Speaker 4: out of college. You watch his college state. The dude's talented,
Speaker 4: and I think he could go out there and contest
Speaker 4: an opportunity to be the starter there or start a
Speaker 4: turnover on Mike Koseki because we kind of seen what
Speaker 4: Mike Koseki could be these last couple of seasons. But
Speaker 4: more so, I think if there's going to be any
Speaker 4: competition that tight end rum, Eric might be the guy
Speaker 4: to take it over.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I can sit here and tell you
Speaker 1: about like scouting reports and you know, practice report, or
Speaker 1: I could just tell you that he started at Michigan
Speaker 1: and went to Iowa, like those are like two tight
Speaker 1: end factories, right, Like at some point we're just like
Speaker 1: Iowa tight end. Sure, I'll draft him, like build them right,
Speaker 1: So like Eric all Iowa tight end, Like at some
Speaker 1: point you just wonder if that, you know, if he
Speaker 1: starts to take over there in Cincinnati, because I sick.
Speaker 1: He's been fine, but he's de Floyd, He's Mike the
Speaker 1: SICKI at some point, too.
Speaker 3: Big Jersey, I think you're onto something. Not but not
Speaker 3: only with Eric All right, like like him, Theo Johnson. Uh,
Speaker 3: these rookie tight ends, it takes a little bit. I
Speaker 3: know Sam Laporter came out to gate firing last year,
Speaker 3: but every other rookie tight end it's a slower build.
Speaker 3: So we could see these rookies kind of take over
Speaker 3: like Trey McBride did in the middle of the season
Speaker 3: last year. So I'm not saying that these guys are
Speaker 3: must adds, these rookie tight ends, but just something to
Speaker 3: keep an eye on, especially given the state of the position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the point, we're sort of grasping at straws
Speaker 1: and trying anything that we think is gonna Yeah, so
Speaker 1: if you were in a deeper league, like I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you if you're a tim team lead.
Speaker 2: You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not grabbing Eric All and playing him, but you're
Speaker 1: in a deep league where tight end is already pretty thin.
Speaker 2: I'm Eric All, THEO Johnson watchless utilize it, yep.
Speaker 1: A couple of names told in your back pocket that
Speaker 1: might provide some dividends for you in the future. There
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