1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week thirteen Giants hangout, brought to you 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: by Cresstrawn. My name is mattelin Burke, joined as always 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: by Russ Salzburg, Brandon London, and Jonathan Cassius. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: The Giants have Monday Night Football on deck for Week thirteen. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: But first we've got to get into little news and 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: notes around the team, starting with the fact that the 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Giants fired defensive coordinator Shane Bowen, elevating linebackers coach Charlie 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Bullen to the role for the remainder of the season. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Casias is the defensive player on the panel here. What's 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: your immediate reaction to this one? 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: The Giants have lost what five games now, basically the 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: defense giving up leads. Where I feel like this year. 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 3: The question coming into this year was the offense, and 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: I think the offense answered those questions and consistently. The 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: offense has scored touchdowns on first drives, which hasn't happened 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: in years past. Built up leads and the defense laden 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: games have just not figured out a way to close 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: out these games. When the Giants had leads, and then 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: last week the Detroit Lions, they averaged twelve yards er 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: rush like that is that makes me sick to my 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: stomach like it was. You know, we've been talking about defensively, 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: them not being able to get off the field and 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: make the place to win the games. Not saying that 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: this is going to answer everything, but somebody had to 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: be held accountable. And of course day Ball being fired 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago is chain bowing. You know, this 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: is a team that they have to figure out how 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: to finish these games because they're in every single game. 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: So maybe this can spark a little life on the 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, right. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: You mentioned twelve yards per rush too. 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: That was the reason Bonene was originally brought in, was 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: his strength in defending against the run. Game that didn't 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: end up being the case. Also, you know, losing so 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: many significant leads, including Sunday at the Lions Russ you know, 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: another game in which the Giants held a lead the 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: entirety of it until they didn't. Lions didn't lead until 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: overtime for the first time. But we got to talk 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: about a little bit of the brain spots on the offense. 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: We saw some trick plays out there. The offense was 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. That side of the 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: ball seemed to be in their bag. 43 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: Well, listen, the offense, as Jac said, you know, the 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: problem we thought was going to be the offense this season, 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: that hasn't been the problem. It has been the defense. 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you see in trick plays, you're see we're 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: also looking at the team. Look at what we had 48 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: last week. You didn't have Jackson Dart, you didn't have 49 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: elite neighbors. We know they were out. You don't have 50 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: Cam Scatabo. You got key guys in your offense out. 51 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: And these guys are doing a job. I can't say 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: enough good things about the offensive performance. I mean, everybody 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: on offense is contributing, Wan Dell, Theo Johnson. I mean, 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: they're getting the job done. So it's not a question 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: of the offense. The question is the defense. And that's 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: what it is. And you know, I mean, Jac hit 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: it on the head. You know, Jac said, we're in 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: the games, in the games, we're leading most of the games. 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's why a guy lost his job. And 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, but you know, push comes to shoves. Something 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: needed to be done well. 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: And you mentioned too that the Giants are in games 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: and these are problems that in years past, scoring on 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: the opening drive with something that they wanted to address. 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Scoring more than twenty points in a game was something 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that they couldn't get to for years at a time. 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Now they're doing that, and they're doing it in a 68 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: creative way. The defensive side of the ball just needed 69 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: to make a change. But Brandon as a wide receiver, 70 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: I know during camp, you know you were keying in 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: on gunnerl Chefsky saying, this guy can make some plays, 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: this guy can make some catches. 73 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Did you know he had an arm like that though 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown pass to James Winston. 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: That kid is special. 76 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 6: That kid has everything, and I think he needs to 77 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 6: be involved in the offense a little bit more, just 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 6: to see what you have in him going into the offseason. 79 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 6: Don't just look at this kid as some sort of 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: kick returner pump returner, because he's already outplayed that title. 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 7: It's now time to get him some jet sweeps. 82 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 6: And get him involved in the offense, maybe some quick outs, 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 6: get the ball into his hands in space, and see 84 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: what he can do. 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna push back to both JC and Russ. 86 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 7: The offense has been doing good, but not great. 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 6: If I'm sitting here as an offensive player, I'm putting 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: some of that firing on myself as well, because, yeah, 89 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 6: we could put up almost nine hundred total yards of 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 6: offense and two games, but we're not closing out drives 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 6: every single drives. There's been points that have been left 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 6: on the board, and it's like, Okay, from years and 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: years the defense has had our backs. 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: Now we've had our. 95 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 6: Opportunity to close out some games with the Broncos game 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 6: not throwing the interception, Cowboys game not getting down to 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 6: the red zone what two to three times and only 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 6: getting what ten points. 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: Out of it. 100 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 6: So if you look at it football being a complimentary game, 101 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: I understand what you guys are talking about, and yeah, 102 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 6: someone someone's head had to be put on the stake 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 6: or whatever. 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, offensively. 105 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 6: You're feeling like you're the calls as well because you 106 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 6: want to be able to close out football games as well. 107 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that, Brandon. As a team, it is complimentary, 108 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: but if you look who's doing good and who's not 109 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: doing good, it's clearly on the keep clearly. Did you 110 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: see in the second pul I'm serious, folks. In the 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: second quarter, Giants are up ten to nothing. 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: It's third and. 113 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: Goal from the eleven yard line. God throws an outpass 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: to Aman Ross Saint Brown. He goes eleven yards untouched, untouched, 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: through everybody, And I'm saying to myself, you know, to me, 116 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: that's not a scheme, that this is pop one of football. 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: Can somebody tackle somebody? He went through everybody. That's what 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. The guys need to start looking in 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: the mirror. They need to start looking in the mirror. 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: We just got two guys fired. 121 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: Okay, matter than before we move on because we don't 122 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: know how much more football he's going to play for 123 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: the New York Giants. Can we please talk about Jameis 124 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Winston and how exciting of a player he is throwing 125 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: the ball, catching like he is playing like. I mean, 126 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: what other player in the NFL right now is a 127 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: more exciting player to watch the Jameis Winston like the 128 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: Giants their record, horrible record. The Giants are a bad 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: team according to their record, But when you watch Jameis 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: Winston play, you like, I don't know if this team 131 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: as bad as we think because he plays such an 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: exciting brand. He throws the ball like incredibly down the field. 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: He didn't make too many mistakes and it's still Jamis 134 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: ball because he's definitely gonna make at least one crucial mistake, but. 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Not really like it's you know, there's that moment those interceptions, 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: but it's not like he's you know, spraying it all recklessly. 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: He's excisive and accurate and making plays for this team 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: and making this a very exciting team. I saw on 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: TikTok a creator who was like, you know, when you 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: think about height, five nine is the tallest of the 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: short people, and five to ten is the shortest of 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the tall people. 143 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: I think the Giants are five to nine. They are 144 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: the best two and. 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Ten teams in national They're so much fun to watch, 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and they're just that close to being like all right 147 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: on that caliber, but they're they're they're so good, they're 148 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna be a team you tune in 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: and watch every. 150 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: Week even if they lose the game, because they are 151 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: so much fun and James Winston is bringing so much joy. 152 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 6: That also makes it hurt so much as well. You're 153 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 6: having fun watching the football game. But I think the 154 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 6: biggest thing to me that stands out for Jamis is 155 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 6: the leadership and how these guys are following him. You 156 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: see the handshake Heny and Jackson dart heead on the sideline. 157 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: After the touchdown. 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 6: I mean, that's one of the longest handshakes I've seen 159 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: in sports jakes. 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 7: They still doing it, they ain't even finished up yet. 161 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: But that's just boreography. 162 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 6: That just there's gotta be a shot clock on these 163 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: dag going handshakes these days. 164 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: But that just goes to. 165 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 6: Show you how guys rallying around this guy, how infectious 166 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 6: his leadership and his personality is. And yeah, it's it's 167 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 6: exciting watching him and these guys play, but at the 168 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 6: end of the day, it's just it's a gut punch. 169 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: It hurts when they don't come out with the w Well. 170 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: He's also to the perfect kind of veteran quarterback because 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: he's been in this league for a really long time. 172 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: He has a lot of experience. But he's also not 173 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: seemingly got that ego. You know, some some veteran quarterbs 174 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: around the league will be like, I should be the starter. 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: I will begrudgingly be the backup until my number is called. 176 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Jamis is enthusiastic whatever his role is, whether it's QB 177 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: one two or emergency quarterback. He's out there doing his 178 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: choreographed handshakes, having his exciting gas up his teammates moment 179 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and Russ. I mean, you've seen several quarterbacks on all 180 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: levels of the game throughout your time covering this team. 181 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: Just what is he bringing. It's just so much joy. 182 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's why he's here. That's why they 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: signed That's why they signed him to a two year 184 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: deal because his veteran leadership, his attitude. Listen, when they 185 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: signed him, the game plan was clearly going to be 186 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: the backup, you know, moving forward. I mean, you knew 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: that Russ wasn't going to be back here next season, 188 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: so you knew that Jamis was going to be the 189 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: backup next season. But first of all, that's his personality. 190 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: We see it every day. He's always got a smile 191 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: on his face. He's great with his teammates. He's great 192 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: with Jackson, He's great with guys. He's always talking to 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: them in a locker room, building them up. I mean, 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: that's the kind of guy. I mean, he's partner. Grabbing 195 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: a phrase from another sport, he's a home run. He's 196 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: a home run in a locker room because he's just 197 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: he's what you call a good dude. Plus he can 198 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: still play, as we've been talking about. So it's a combination. 199 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: You could ask for a better backup quarterback situation, not 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: just because of like what we saw this past week, 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: but just because of his attitude and his raw raw 202 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: and he doesn't walk with his head down. It's not 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: about me. He's a quintessential example that there is no 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: I in team. He is a team guy. 205 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: And you know, remains to be seen who's going to 206 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: start at quarterback. Jackson Dart has been working his way 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: out of the concussion protocol, so will he play on 208 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night football? Will it be Jamis one more time? 209 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Remains to be seen. But whoever it is, the Giants 210 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: are gonna be looking to keep this offense going. Brandon, 211 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: when you look at this matchup in primetime, what's. 212 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: The key to that one? 213 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: The key to it is just to continue to do 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 7: what you're doing. 215 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 6: And I would you know, I'm having a great time 216 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 6: watching Jamis, but I would love to see Jackson Dart, 217 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 6: if healthy, play this game. Because the Giants have their 218 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: Drake May right now, they have a kid that came 219 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: into the season, tore around the middle early middle of 220 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 6: the season like Drake May did last year and shows 221 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 6: some really good things and you see the step that 222 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 6: he was able to make this year. 223 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: So I would love to see that head to head. 224 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, this Patriots defense 225 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 6: can be exposed. I understand Christian Gonzalez is a really 226 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 6: solid corner, but guys have gotten behind him. 227 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: But just some bad balls. 228 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 6: And the luck of a bad throws has kind of 229 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 6: not exposed him enough. But if the Giants just continue 230 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: to do what they're doing on offense, and they fix 231 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: as much as they can fix on the defensive side 232 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 6: of things, because there's not going to be a magic 233 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 6: wand waved and then all of a sudden the Giants 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 6: become this top ten defense. 235 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: It's just about closing. 236 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 6: This season out on the right foot, on the right 237 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 6: playing some good football. Now show yourselves going into the 238 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 6: off season, because like they say JC at the end 239 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 6: on garbage. 240 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 7: Bag Day, we're never going to see the same team 241 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 7: after this. 242 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: After we walk up out of these doors. It is 243 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: not the same team going forward. 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 6: So close this season off on as much as a 245 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 6: high note as you can, and that starts with the 246 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 6: win in Foxborough on Monday Night Football. 247 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you mentioned too, this is the last time 248 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: that this exact group will be together, the core of it, 249 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: perhaps next year, the nucleus of it, yes, but there's 250 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be changes and Brendan you mentioned not just 251 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: the offense, but the defense too. It's a great opportunity 252 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: for Charlie Bullen stepping in to the role. 253 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: As defensive coordinator. 254 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: Jac has got to be helpful that he's got a 255 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a longer runway to prepare for his 256 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: first game calling the shots on the defensive side of 257 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the ball with a long week with Monday Night Football. 258 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: What are your expectations for the defense going into this game. 259 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: It's more of it's more of not really the performance, 260 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: it's more of the accountability. You know, I'm watching on 261 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: film and it's just bad choices being made. You know, 262 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: big holes for linebackers to feel, and they're hesitant to 263 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: fill them. You know, guys taking on crack blocks and 264 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: they're not taking them on. They're receiving the crack blocks. 265 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: Defensive backs coming in and not hitting guys low. They're 266 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: trying to hit running backs up top, like poor decision making, 267 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: and that could be corrected on film because we're seeing 268 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: these things over and over and over and over again, 269 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: and they need to be held accountable, you know, because 270 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: a lot of times Ford is being questioned and I'm 271 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: watching the film and I'm like, it's not effort on 272 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: that play. It's just a bad choice that made him 273 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: look like he didn't perform. He didn't give his best effort, 274 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: and it's more of a not a great choice, not 275 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: a great decision. Now we talk about this quarterback that 276 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: they're playing against. Drake May, the guy that just goes 277 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: through his progressions so easily. If not he can run 278 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: the football. He is the dual threat of twenty twenty 279 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: five of what you want. He is the pocket quarterback 280 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: that's as good as anybody in the league. He's second 281 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: overall plays down the field twenty plus yards. First of all, 282 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: he's leading the league in passing without having a game 283 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: over three hundred yards passing. I don't even know how 284 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: you can pull something off like that. Consistency consis consistency 285 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: and efficiency with this quarterback. He had a pick six 286 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: last week, a little overthrown ball, but besides that, though, 287 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: he's very accurate with the football. He's very decisive with 288 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 3: the football. He can run the football, he makes smart decisions. 289 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: He was going down on one play and he just 290 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: got rid of the ball to give up us to 291 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: make sure it wasn't a second it was a incompletion. 292 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: Little plays like that. Not having a good start last week, 293 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: and then finished the game strong. This kid is the 294 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: reason why he's a number two overall in MVP voting 295 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: because he's all around great, decisive, smart decision maker and 296 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: he throws the football better than anybody else in the 297 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: league right now. 298 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: And he shows that from year one to year two, 299 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: not just as a player but as a team. I mean, 300 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: you're one the Patriots struggled a bit, and you're two 301 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: nowther ten and two and you know, guaranteed to be 302 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: above five hundred for the first time and quite some 303 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: time as a franchise. But Russ, when you see not 304 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: just what that team as a whole has done, but 305 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: what Drake May has done, what's your key on this game? 306 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: On Mondaday, Madelin, The key for me is the same 307 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: thing each and every week. Finish plays, finish the deal, 308 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: finish the job. You know, I know we're sounding like 309 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 4: a broken record, but the defense. Listen, you just got 310 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: a guy fired. I understand. I understand what Brandon said. 311 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's got to be complementary football. A man 312 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: just lost his job. You know, he just lost his 313 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: job going into Thanksgiving. You know, guys, wake up, look 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: in the mirror and say, you know what, it's on 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: us today. It's on us today. The offense has been 316 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: doing the job. We got to finish the deal. They've 317 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: given us leads and we got to make sure the 318 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: lead is protected. That's what needs to be done. 319 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: That's what needs to be done. 320 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: History between the Giants and Patriots, we've seen these two 321 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: teams many many times before. 322 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: So Russ, what better time for some What do you know? 323 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: What do you say? What's the trivia this week? 324 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? What do you know? What do you say? Well? 325 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: When talking Giants Patriots, as you say, Mad, there's a 326 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of history. But I'm not going 327 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: to give you any Super Bowl questions this week, people, 328 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: because that would be far too easy. So I'm going 329 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: to go to two thousand and seven, week seventeen. I 330 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: believe it was December twenty ninth, and it was at 331 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: MetLife Stadium and it was a Bond Burner. I remember 332 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: being on a field after the game because I was 333 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: at Channel nine at the time and the game was 334 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: also on our station. Thirty eight thirty five was the 335 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: final score, Patriots winning on their way to what they 336 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: thought was going to be an undefeated season. Well, in 337 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: that thirty eight thirty five game, the Giants scored five touchdowns. 338 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: Question for everybody who scored the five touchdowns, and one 339 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: guy scored. 340 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: Two of them Flaxica Burus Okay. 341 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 6: Dominic Kickson because he returned they returned the kick. 342 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: There you go. 343 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Uh, Mario Manningham, No, No, he wasn't there my rookie year. 344 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: This is my my Bradshaw I believe scored. 345 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: No where the running back where Award? 346 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: I keep getting Derek Ward there? 347 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: He was hurt. 348 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: He was hurt at that point. 349 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're narrowing it down people. 350 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 6: Uh Steve Smith, Steve Smith scored No, No, Tyree wouldn't no, 351 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 6: not on that one. 352 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: Let's go back to running backs. Your named everybody Jacobs 353 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: Hell that's one. 354 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 355 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: Now, Buris, by the way, had two touchdowns, so you 356 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: missed one guy. 357 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 6: Kevin Boss, Kevin Boss seven, Kevin Baby. 358 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: Game. 359 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: I'll always remember that game. 360 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 6: One because any practice squad years, I had to be 361 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: Randy Moss, so I had to be him twice and 362 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 6: that card would just. 363 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 5: Be eighty for eighty one all. 364 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: The way down the field, d lighted throwing the ball, 365 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: rest in peace to have the lefty Jared Lorenzen I got. 366 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 5: I earned my check those weeks. 367 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 3: I had you. Did you throw the hand up? 368 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: Oh? 369 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I would absolutely, But those those are the times, 370 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: those are the times. 371 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 372 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: Brandon's rookie season on this Giants roster. It was my 373 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: I worked at Super Bowl as a PA for ESPN. 374 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: We were all connected through that two thousand and seven 375 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: season and then now. 376 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: Look at us complimentary. 377 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: In the game. 378 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: All right, listen, Giants Patriots, we got to talk about 379 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: some memories. Let's do a little blind rankings. I have 380 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: five moments for you all throughout the history, and they're 381 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: all coming from Super Bowls, you know, Russian super Bowls. 382 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm going, hey, we've done it twice. Let's go super 383 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Bowl memories. So starting with twenty eleven Manningham's catch on 384 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: the sideline. 385 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: So these are only super Bowls we're not doing. Yeah, 386 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: because one of my all time favorite moments is the game. 387 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: I just said, when they lost thirty eight seventy thirty 388 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: eight thirty five on their way, I believe that game 389 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 4: propelled them to good things. But Mario Manningham. 390 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 6: Three three, because you understand the other two we're going 391 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 6: to be talking about. I gotta I'll have you have 392 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: to put that at three. 393 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I was going to say, 394 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: I was gonna say two, and I know I'm going 395 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: to kick myself in the butt because I know which 396 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: is number one. But maybe I'm missing something. So I'm 397 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: gonna say two. 398 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I'm gonna go too here because when 399 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: you when we put this in the notes and I 400 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: start thinking over moments and stuff like that, I don't 401 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: know if there was a better throw and catch vacation, 402 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: like the difficulty, and of course the time of the game, 403 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: you're just not going to see that, like you know. 404 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go too because I'm with you, Brandon. 405 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: I know there is at least one more play out 406 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: there that we can put above that one. But man, 407 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: it's so hard to beat that play bro Oh man, 408 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: it's so hard to beat that play. 409 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: All right. 410 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of the time of the game, though twenty four 411 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: seconds left in the fourth quarter. In two thousand and seven, 412 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Jay Alfred the sack. Where's that going on your power rankings? 413 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 7: By huge sack? Huge sack. But we got to put 414 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 7: that at five. 415 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: I'm going four. I'm going four. Yeah, all right, boy 416 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: Jay shout out by Boy j Alfred. 417 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven Chase Blackburn interception. 418 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: Four four Okay. 419 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm going fish four. 420 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: All right, two thousand and seven, game winning touchdown by 421 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Plexico Birden. 422 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: Oh you know what? Okay, I got you, Yeah, I 423 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: got you. 424 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: Listen. 425 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: We all know the helmet catch was an iconic moment, 426 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: but the touchdown scored after the helmet catch doesn't get 427 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: as much. 428 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 6: And we have to go too because Plaques didn't practice 429 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 6: that entire week. 430 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 7: And I banged up my my, my quad. 431 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: And I'm in I'm in the treatment room with him, 432 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: and he is in one of his moods and. 433 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 5: How moody Plaques can be. And I said something to him. 434 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 6: We're both on bikes and I said something to him, 435 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 6: and he got so moody with me, and I flipped 436 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 6: on him and was like, bro, you mad at me 437 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 6: because I'm on your side all the time. 438 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 5: And blah blah blah blah, and even went out there 439 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 5: and had the performance that he had. 440 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 6: So to me, it was like this dude had one 441 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: leg the entire week and went out there and performed 442 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 6: that play was huge. 443 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: So I got two on that one. 444 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: Russ. 445 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: Listen, Obviously I get what we were talking about, so 446 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: that would have been too But I already picked my 447 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: number two any game, so to me, that which sounds crazy, 448 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: but the Plaxico touchdown game winning touchdown ends up being 449 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 4: number three because to me, there can only be one 450 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: number one. 451 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: And I'm right with you, Russ, because we have four 452 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: or five switched. But I kind of knew this. These 453 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 3: three top three players are gonna end up like this, 454 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna have to go number three. And of 455 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: course I think we're all consensus with the number one players. 456 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: The number one play for everyone with let's see about a. 457 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: Minute left in the game, let's say, was it yeah, 458 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: Mad Bradshaw meant to go down, but he accidentally fell 459 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: into the end zone and scored a. 460 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Touchdown two thousands end zone. Oops. 461 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 6: I scored the Green Bay on the blind rankings. 462 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: For the food. 463 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: You think about if you think of what that touchdown 464 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: meant that was that is number. 465 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: One, the number one spot plus I mean, it isn't 466 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: really odd like it's one of the weirdest scoring plays 467 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: in super history. 468 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Was meant to be one way, and it's like, oops, this. 469 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: Is some moll stuff right here, Pierced, How are you 470 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: not gonna have talk about Super Bowl moments? How do 471 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: you not include the helmet catch? 472 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: Come on, whatever, I want. 473 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: The voice of God chiming in. 474 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: The helmet. The helmet catch has to be the play 475 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: could clearly not just a helmet catch. We're out of trouble, 476 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: ELI getting out of trouble to throw the ball so 477 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 4: he can make it. ELI getting out of trouble was 478 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: his equal to the helmet catch. It was just tremendous. 479 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: No case closed a mod. 480 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: Bradshaw's accidental touchdown the number one moment Giants Patriots, super 481 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Bowl history. That's the consensus from our blind rankings. Hey listen, 482 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. 483 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 484 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: Well, well Pearson must have been blind when he was 485 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: figuring this stuff out, because they could catch go. 486 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 5: To be the catch. 487 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: Keep it too obvious here, We'll give you too obvious. 488 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: Everyone agrees on that. 489 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: All right, Giants Patriots we're going to do some rapid fire, 490 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: so let's be quick with it, because I got three 491 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: questions for over under right, all right, starting with Wandale Robinson. 492 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: He had nine catches last week, over under six and 493 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: a half catches against Patriots. 494 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 7: Brandon I'm going over because he's a yat guy. 495 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 6: The little mighty mouse has been absolutely balling. He and 496 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 6: Jamie's got something there. There's what we like to call 497 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 6: in French, like knni straw. 498 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 5: Nonah, I just made that up. 499 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: But we like French. You just making up language. 500 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he should be German. I'm supposed to be 501 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: learning German, and I went with French. 502 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: Last week. He's telling us about his modeling. Now he's 503 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 4: trying to speak French. I mean you're going on a 504 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 4: runway again for crying out. 505 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: Loud for these dating profiles. Hey, ladies, the model speaks French. Though, 506 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: jac over under six and a half catches. 507 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: Well, I think if the Patriots are watching the film 508 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: that we watched, I don't think they're they're gonna let 509 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: him have so many opportunities to catch the ball like 510 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: he did last week. I think they're going to try 511 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: to hone down on him a little bit. I think 512 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: he'll be right at six catches. I'm just gonna go under. 513 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: I do love Wandell. 514 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead, that's okay, Russ, Yeah, I'm gonna 515 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: go over. I just think he's in a groove. He's 516 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: having a rear year. I mean, he looks like he's 517 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: going to be a thousand yard receiver. I'm going with Wandel. 518 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: He's really he's taking it to the next level. 519 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take the over as well because 520 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: he's just proven to be a reliable target. 521 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Whomever is that quarterback? 522 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: All right? Over? 523 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: Under half a touchdown for running backs? Do running backs 524 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: get in the end zone? 525 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: Jac Yes, I think this is the game. I think 526 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: the Giants want to establish the run. With Kafka at 527 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: the helm, they look like first second down, red zone, 528 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: third down, and third and short. They want to run 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: the football. I think these guys will be able to 530 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: punch one in. 531 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: Brandon Over, I'd like to where the run game is going. 532 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 6: We haven't had that home run hitter just yet, but 533 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 6: it's stable, and I like, you know, I like stability 534 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: in my life. 535 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: All right, So Brandon think we Russ. 536 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: Over, I mean, I agree with what we were saying, 537 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: you know, Kafka, he was sticking with the run last 538 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: week and then end up paying dividends. I believe you 539 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 4: know they're going to run again. Yeah, it's gonna go over. 540 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's go passing yards. If it's James Winston, 541 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: over under two hundred and eighty passing yards for the quarterback. 542 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 5: I go over for both of them. 543 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 7: Both of them slang that sling the rocks. 544 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: So regardless if you're eating W's or you're doing some 545 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 6: sort of league Neighbors dance and Jackson darts, both of 546 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 6: them have the UPMO, have the confidence, and every single 547 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: receiver that they play with on that outside and then 548 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 6: shows these guys are gonna make plays for them. 549 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 5: So over, no matter who's at QB. 550 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: I got over for Jamis for sure. When Jamis is 551 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 3: out there, man, he's just a guy that look he's 552 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: looking downfield. He's gonna throw it into tight windows. He's 553 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: gonna throw it down the field. He's gonna throw the 554 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: double coverage, he's gonna throw the single coverage. He's just 555 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: gonna give you a chance downfield, man. And I'm definitely 556 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: gonna go over for Jamis. Not so much for Jackson 557 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: because a little bit more of a run game. Even 558 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: I know, I know he got knocked out the game 559 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: the last game he played in. I just think it'll 560 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: be a under for Jackson over for Jamis Russ. 561 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over for both guys. I'm gonna go over. Listen. 562 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 4: I think if it is Jackson, and Kafka has said 563 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: if Jackson is cleared, he's the guy. But I just 564 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: think they would do a little less running for Jackson 565 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: in that and that means he's gonna be maybe passing more. Yeah, 566 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: I think I agree with everybody. We're going over to eighty. 567 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: I could see it being over as well, airing it out. 568 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: And if it is Jamis, I just got to give 569 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: a little fun fact. There's only two players in NFL 570 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: history that have had three hundred or more passing yards 571 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: and twenty five or more rushing yards in a single game. 572 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: One Tom Brady, two Jameis Winston. That's it. 573 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: That's the only times it's ever happened. James had three 574 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six passing yards last week. If he's in, 575 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll air it out again. If it's Jackson, 576 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised, so I'm taking the over as well. Well, 577 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: let's go Giants Patriots Monday Night football. 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