Speaker 1: Boutleg cap podcast special guests in here, the Legendary Bizarre.
Speaker 1: Welcome sir, What up though? How you doing man, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at your plats man. Yeah, well I'm sure you
Speaker 1: got a lot more than me. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: actually wrapped on the mind. I just played this ship
Speaker 1: on the radio and they sent me plex It's like, hey, thanks,
Speaker 1: play our other ship too, damn Like, man, play this
Speaker 1: You actually were on the songs you got. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you actually did something. I didn't do anything. All this
Speaker 1: ship is I didn't. I just played this ship on
Speaker 1: the radio. I broke, you know, broke break records and ship.
Speaker 1: What's your biggest record you broke? Probably like like early
Speaker 1: J Cole, early Kendrick, like randomly enough Maclamore. I was
Speaker 1: playing Maclamore super early underground hip hop show. Uh he
Speaker 1: started off an underground Yeah, okay, some more backpack you like,
Speaker 1: you know, hipster ship, hipster rap, fucking hipster rap at
Speaker 1: its finest. Damn Yeah, young Mac, what's going on with you? Man?
Speaker 1: Man trying to be a hipster man? I respect it.
Speaker 1: It's a nice like late life decision to pivot to. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm going through a different Personnalities it is mystery person.
Speaker 1: So you're in hipster mode of Bizarre's career right now.
Speaker 1: Are we changing them? Are you singing about trans rites
Speaker 1: and stuff? Wow, you're changing it up? Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: change it up man, the new millennium. Man, do you
Speaker 1: feel like when you listen to your music at times
Speaker 1: like from like back in the day and even you know,
Speaker 1: newer stuff, It's obviously you'd be saying some wild shit,
Speaker 1: especially like vintage D twelve shit. Because I always think, like, damn, notice,
Speaker 1: Like I always like talk to artists about like just
Speaker 1: kind of the state of how sensitive everybody is nowadays.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if Marshall matters up
Speaker 1: you could happen in twenty twenty two, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if Purple Pills could happen in twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: or Devil's Night, Like is that? Uh? Do you ever
Speaker 1: like listen to your old ship and be like, damn,
Speaker 1: I was saying some wild ship. Yeah, yeah, I'll be
Speaker 1: forgetting half of it shit. I'll be saying, man, what
Speaker 1: do you think is like the craziest line you've said
Speaker 1: on a song that you think might like if it
Speaker 1: if it came out today would get you in some
Speaker 1: serious ship. Uh, I don't know. Maybe you know when
Speaker 1: my hands is so them my mother something, Dick and
Speaker 1: I didn't come. That's one of the raunchy ones. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Any ship about kids probably will be probably, yeah,
Speaker 1: anything about it'd be like Airy Spears, who's a saw
Speaker 1: he did a bit. He did a bit about kids,
Speaker 1: like twelve years ago. They're trying to cancel them now
Speaker 1: for it because it's like rehashed. Damn him and Tiffany
Speaker 1: Hads are in the skit in like twenty twelve and
Speaker 1: people are mad about it all like out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Oh jay z yeah great, he just great impersonations jay
Speaker 1: z impersonations, Insane x one is dope. Yeah. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: trying to cancel my man, get me my get his
Speaker 1: as out of there. It's crazy, man, it's crazy nowadays. Like,
Speaker 1: how would you say, like, you know, being bizarre, knowing
Speaker 1: that you're kind of like I feel like when people
Speaker 1: listen to Bizarre, they're expecting a certain level of like
Speaker 1: shock value or is it like a little harder to
Speaker 1: deliver that how you'd like to nowadays? Uh? Well, I
Speaker 1: think I'm being a little bit more lyrical now with
Speaker 1: the shock, but I still sneak my little punches in there. Man.
Speaker 1: I think it's my That's just why my my brain
Speaker 1: is wired. Man. Right, So I'm a little bit sneakyer
Speaker 1: with the punches, but they still they're still they're still flagrant,
Speaker 1: They're still funny. Yeah, yeah, you're here. Ship was always hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you could. It did stand up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm trying to scale back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I say one the two, like, I think I said
Speaker 1: something about little nons X. He ain't important, especially after
Speaker 1: he didn't get that abortion. Oh because he was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Yeah by me, Yeah, he was a pregnant male. It
Speaker 1: was a nice rollout. Hey, it was a good rollout.
Speaker 1: Hey had people talking. You wrote a bar about it worked, right, damn. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm still sneaking to men. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think people take much too serious. Man. I think
Speaker 1: I think they kind of know you're like people. Other
Speaker 1: people can't say what I say, Yeah, someone if someone
Speaker 1: else said that, it'd be a problem. But I feel
Speaker 1: like people expect that level of like comedy or like
Speaker 1: at least like they're not going to take it like
Speaker 1: personal if you say it. But what if I'm serious?
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you could have stopped to help
Speaker 1: me before I really committed a serious crime. That would
Speaker 1: be crazy. I couldn't stop yet. You could have talked
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. This guy over here with the mullet
Speaker 1: is that's his job. He's juiced up, bay oh man,
Speaker 1: he wants to talk about his red bull. That's it.
Speaker 1: This guy smoked two packs of black. Amount of the
Speaker 1: day one hundred percent. Man. I was just telling you
Speaker 1: I spent some time out in Detroit recently, and uh man,
Speaker 1: I really Detroit hanging out with We shot with Sada
Speaker 1: Baby out there on the east side. We were with
Speaker 1: Perrol Giovanni. On the west side, we were with we
Speaker 1: were with Icewear Vessel. He was shooting his movie. So
Speaker 1: we just stayed out there for a week and just
Speaker 1: shot a bunch of stuff for above All and it
Speaker 1: was it was fun. Man. I enjoyed it a lot.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect, did you hear? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta come fuck with us next time
Speaker 1: when you come to the dem What part of Detroit
Speaker 1: A you're from? From seven Mile Evergreen? Okay? Is that
Speaker 1: the east side or west side just the side okay,
Speaker 1: deep deep west side, deep west side. I know, like
Speaker 1: there's like a bit of a vibe change from the
Speaker 1: west side. Well from what I would say that like,
Speaker 1: the west side seems a little from what everyone has
Speaker 1: told me, it's a little bit more of the flashier
Speaker 1: hustler that's to where the east side is a little
Speaker 1: more like you know, ryany maybe you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like so, I don't know, I really Uh, the food
Speaker 1: was cool. I told you there's a fucking Coney Island
Speaker 1: on every corner. Did you go to Starters? I don't
Speaker 1: think I did, Okay, I just know we was just
Speaker 1: pulling up the Coney Islands. That was like everybody would
Speaker 1: go to their hood. They'd be like, we got to
Speaker 1: take you to our Coney, Yeah, because that's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a real big thing in Detroit of you know
Speaker 1: what coney did you go to? Right? Because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you asked me, what's my favorite Coney is
Speaker 1: lines Coney Island on seven mile Okay, And it's because
Speaker 1: we got this Omelik called the seven Mile omelet. Oh
Speaker 1: and basically they put everything in the whole store in
Speaker 1: it inside the almond Yeah, hash Browns all type of
Speaker 1: sounds like a movie. Yeah, that's your go to chili,
Speaker 1: the chi, the chili from the Chilian chiches. They put
Speaker 1: the chili inside down with too. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: fucking diarrhea though. That sounds like a fucking problem for
Speaker 1: the fucking toilet. And then we were super cliche. We
Speaker 1: were driving through Nikki D's drive through o'clock in the morning. No,
Speaker 1: it was this was like one pm because we had
Speaker 1: to shoot at like two, and they were like, go
Speaker 1: to Nikki D's is right over here. And then we
Speaker 1: this was the first time we had been on eight
Speaker 1: Mile Road, right, so I'm like fresh and this was
Speaker 1: like our first day in town. So I just did
Speaker 1: you did you notice the potholes? Oh? Yeah, okay. So
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking blaring eminem and the drive through just
Speaker 1: being like the most stereotypical white dude who's onifaication. I
Speaker 1: was doing it to be funny. But then we actually
Speaker 1: drove to the trailer park, the eight Mile Trailer Park,
Speaker 1: and that ship was fucked up. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, this ship is depressing. They're like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like some toothless ladies smoking. She's on the corner.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, which one was Eminem. She's like, you
Speaker 1: see that empty lot right there? It was right there?
Speaker 1: Went down. Wow. I was like, shit, fucked up over there? Man? Man,
Speaker 1: that's where they shot the movie yet, yes, where they
Speaker 1: shot the movie at? Man? Did they take you on
Speaker 1: seven Mile in Dresley? I don't know where, everybody, that's
Speaker 1: another house you live in Detroit? No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: just drove. I just drove by it. We just googled
Speaker 1: Eminem trailer Park and just went. You know, many people
Speaker 1: coming from like all around the world just to see
Speaker 1: a mom I'm sure overseas German. I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: And it's probably not the safest place to just be
Speaker 1: hanging out at right. What do you think I would
Speaker 1: say based on my experience all the places we were at,
Speaker 1: We're not too far from eight Mile, and we were
Speaker 1: in some pretty hairy areas. Yeah, like yeah, probably like
Speaker 1: y'alls on seven Mile and and crash, it were all
Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, But but yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, probably not the the smartest thing I did do.
Speaker 1: The Mom's spaghetti restaurant was just terrible. I went for
Speaker 1: the mom spaghetti wasn't good man, I wanted to like it.
Speaker 1: You Italian energy. Nah, I'm just playing. I'm German and Irish.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what you is because you ain't
Speaker 1: got the much to German and Irish. Bro German, Irish
Speaker 1: boring white, Okay. I feel like if you're Italian, there's
Speaker 1: like some sort of like, no, I'm not white, I'm Italian.
Speaker 1: German and Irish is like that's like crazy, You're crazy, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That's just white as fuck. That's like as bad as
Speaker 1: boring of Caucasic. I mean, the only thing I can
Speaker 1: say other is like being English. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I appreciate about you is that you are as a
Speaker 1: black man in hip hop, you're fully embraced Caucasian humor, damn,
Speaker 1: because you know, I can't. I have joke in front
Speaker 1: of my homies and they'll call me gay, you know,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, Yo, you're fucking wild. What the
Speaker 1: fung I can appreciate it. I'm saying your humor to me,
Speaker 1: I feel like has always been very similar to mine,
Speaker 1: very dark, fucked up people at at times questionable, Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely question Yeah, Like are there certain jokes. You can't
Speaker 1: get off with certain homies that you can get off
Speaker 1: with that guy. Uh yeah, he laughed at anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he laughing any babe, I keep him laughing. Man. So
Speaker 1: I can't really really trust on him. What's going on
Speaker 1: with the music ship right now? What do you got
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Absolutely nothing? Nothing, no, man, man, I
Speaker 1: just uh, I just dropped the album called He Got
Speaker 1: a Gun, great name. Yeah, and I did the whole
Speaker 1: album with my man file off over there, the guy
Speaker 1: with the mullet, he's the producer. Yeah he's here, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did the whole album from beginning and the the end.
Speaker 1: So I had really lost the love for hip hop
Speaker 1: for a minute. I wasn't really fucking with it. So
Speaker 1: my boy, King Gordian introduced me to this guy, King
Speaker 1: Gordy Yeah, yep, yep, legend Van Nike and Harper and uh,
Speaker 1: this guy here, he was just so pure on hip hop,
Speaker 1: like I mean this, I mean, this guy doesn't give
Speaker 1: a funk about nothing but recording. So he had the
Speaker 1: like typical old school basement six dogs, four cats, his
Speaker 1: girl cooking cats, yeah, the girl cooking the meal, and
Speaker 1: his kids jumping around crazy just to smell. Oh man, awful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a fucked up six dogs, four cats getting made
Speaker 1: and there's kids, cats eating on the counter, all that shit.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not surprised, but it made. It was
Speaker 1: an environment that I needed, man. So you know he
Speaker 1: brought that old you know what I'm saying, that old
Speaker 1: bizarre back to the battle rap Bazaar, saying before the
Speaker 1: crazy Sick Rapist Bizarre, the crazy Sick Rapist Bizarre. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of this album, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We we just been. I had to move
Speaker 1: in his basement for two months. You lived in his
Speaker 1: basement with the cats and the dogs. Yep, shout out
Speaker 1: to Gurdy his dog, his dog. And so while living there,
Speaker 1: you finished the album. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, man, it was
Speaker 1: a long process too, man, because you know he records
Speaker 1: on acid. Bro, Are you kidding? Are you engineers familiar
Speaker 1: with that? Are you kidding? Serious? Yes? What year? What
Speaker 1: could we help Cyrus before he leaves? Can we get
Speaker 1: him a crack? Let's just get him. Let's get him
Speaker 1: a crack for pro tools or something. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: Sony Assid since high school. We'll get bro, We'll get
Speaker 1: you a nice jump drive. We gotta get you wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had to send it to your boy on pro tools.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get off that easy, man. Wow. Salute
Speaker 1: to you man that he's been on it since like
Speaker 1: seventy three something, since fucking the internet started. But AOL
Speaker 1: he still got. He still got AOL trial CDs. Okay,
Speaker 1: but trial CDs. But it gives the rawness of the album.
Speaker 1: It gives it a sound, it gives it a grit,
Speaker 1: It gives us the Honger his house for like a
Speaker 1: mon of teenagers that went over there. We caught the
Speaker 1: bus over there to do a song. Shit nice you were.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes people don't realize like that you
Speaker 1: did come from the battle scene that you were. Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like we think of your bars as like,
Speaker 1: you know, very funny, but I feel like in that
Speaker 1: it's your Your skills as an MC or probably aren't
Speaker 1: respected as as they probably should be. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like this project you kind of yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, when I was in D twelve, I
Speaker 1: had like a role to play a character, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And Marshall he really liked it. The
Speaker 1: D voice. Yeah, so like sometimes the devoice what would
Speaker 1: have me to he would be worried more about the
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the funny shit din really
Speaker 1: the line on syllable or something like that. So so
Speaker 1: would you say you were kind of like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: your role is to do this exactly. You are the
Speaker 1: fun You're the comedic relief of the crew. You're gonna
Speaker 1: say the most wildest most Outlander ship and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be okay because your name is bizarre. I've been saying, wow,
Speaker 1: I landed ship. But like but in the most simple way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the most simple way. Yeah right, put that way.
Speaker 1: So this this album his beats and inspired me to all.
Speaker 1: His ship is like straight gut or boom bap ship.
Speaker 1: So you was back on your house, back on my ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no girlfriend, drama, free sea, moss boxing, fucking
Speaker 1: young holes nice see mass. Yeah, I just pills, do
Speaker 1: the row. I just do the pills that you could get. No,
Speaker 1: I do minus mixed with the damn I forgot no, no,
Speaker 1: not elderberry something else. Have you noticed a sugar taste,
Speaker 1: like it's like the jelly and the jar. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like yeaheah, I know you eat it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had to. I just I can't eat that ship. I
Speaker 1: just do the pill. It's it's probably not as as beneficial,
Speaker 1: but black Sea most energy. Yeah that's all I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we pop one of these boys a day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Do you feel like you
Speaker 1: notice like your health getting better like you started? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: shot the doctor sebby Man. Yeah, we get you way
Speaker 1: more energy. You know, I used to be narkle, were
Speaker 1: just falling asleep every mother. Yeah. Yeah, I don't do
Speaker 1: that ship no more. Yeah. Would you say like you're
Speaker 1: the healthiest you've been right now? Yeah, cause you look healthy.
Speaker 1: You look like you've lost I had. I had. I
Speaker 1: had a minor stroke too. I have to add on
Speaker 1: my all my ship. Yeah, I had stopped taking my
Speaker 1: medicine for like two months. Was the reason you had
Speaker 1: a stroke due to like lifestyle ship? Or was it
Speaker 1: just something like you I had. I became vegan and
Speaker 1: basically stopped taking my medicine and try to do it natural,
Speaker 1: And that probably wouldn't That wasn't a good idea without
Speaker 1: consulting with the doctor. I feel like people go vegan
Speaker 1: but they don't understand it. There's like I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: I was doing it because I was dating a girl
Speaker 1: that was doing it. I'm a fucking follower, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she was getting healthy from it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I tried to do it, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know why I was doing it. You're just
Speaker 1: doing it to do it. Yeah. So I started getting
Speaker 1: on the road doing them shows. And then at nighttime,
Speaker 1: it's three, four o'clock in the morning, you high, you
Speaker 1: got the munchies. So all I know is if I
Speaker 1: go to just while I go to McDonalds, all I
Speaker 1: know is I can't eat no burger, but I could
Speaker 1: eat all the fries. Hell yeah, fries, hash frowns, yeah right, donuts,
Speaker 1: all cars, all cars. So my friend over there who's
Speaker 1: switching the cameras as a vegetarian, but he's full of
Speaker 1: shit because all he does is he potato chips, French fries,
Speaker 1: and like literally what you're saying is all he eats.
Speaker 1: He just eats bean and cheese, burritos, nachos, Okay, fucking
Speaker 1: bags of Doritos, the purple ones, any type of chips.
Speaker 1: He's tried. So if you ever need a good snack.
Speaker 1: He'll be like, yoyo, you go try these chips. Those
Speaker 1: are guess but he eats like an absolute dumpster fire.
Speaker 1: But you know he's vegetarian, so when he says it
Speaker 1: to the girls, it sounds better. The problem is he'
Speaker 1: still not getting no pussy. So oh so I think
Speaker 1: Cyrus should go full meat again? Do we think we
Speaker 1: should get himack to full meat. I've been trying to
Speaker 1: convince him I can't become a meditarian. Meditarian, bro, he'll
Speaker 1: fuck up a whole baby embryo from a chicken. He's
Speaker 1: a bit just ordering cheese pieces and shit, yes, and
Speaker 1: knowing anybody gonna ask him for that, and then he'll
Speaker 1: go to He'll go to subway and get a foot
Speaker 1: long sandwich with just the veggies on it. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're sick man. My thing is is if
Speaker 1: you could eat the aborted baby chicken, you could eat
Speaker 1: the chicken meat. What's up? What a egg is? It's
Speaker 1: the chicken embryo fuck up some chicken babies. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he won't fuck up the chicken meat. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good ass. Damn aborted baby chickens. Where's their rights? Peter? Oh?
Speaker 1: I guess that they're probably alady. They are fighting for them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they just they're probably throwing blood on the
Speaker 1: floor of like a Chick fil a right now somewhere. Kid,
Speaker 1: I know you was just sick, man, Yah, bizarre. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a good fucking time, man, a great fucking
Speaker 1: he just became this sick guy all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: All of a sudden. It's been a long time, man,
Speaker 1: It's been a long fucking time. Bro. And he features
Speaker 1: on the new album Oh Yeah, who gonna know? Uh
Speaker 1: got a song with Cool Keith. Oh shout out to
Speaker 1: cool kids, shout when if he comes back to the
Speaker 1: planet Earth for you shooting video for Cool keyths that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cool keeps the guy. But I don't know where he's
Speaker 1: at right now. He's in Mars. He's Cool Keys getting
Speaker 1: cool Keith. I got a Nims for your life, Gorilla,
Speaker 1: Gorilla Nims was just here last week. Coney. He's from
Speaker 1: Coney Island. You guys like Coney. He's been in the
Speaker 1: story a lot of times, you know about he almost
Speaker 1: signed with eminem. He had like an opportunity where he
Speaker 1: could have got on Shady, but you know, he had
Speaker 1: some ship happened in his last year. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: went to prison for a minute. Yeah, so after my
Speaker 1: boy Nimbs. Man, I've been doing that do for a
Speaker 1: long time. But I love is his. He also has
Speaker 1: very disrespectful flame. He gotta be saying crazy ship on
Speaker 1: your album. Oh yeah, he's says probably. He was like
Speaker 1: this feature, i' gonna say the Wildish Ship. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: said a COVID line that might be unacceptable. What do
Speaker 1: you say? Oh man? He said, what do you say?
Speaker 1: He said something about bitch you can get this. Gave
Speaker 1: my mama, gave my mama, my sister some COVID for Christmas.
Speaker 1: That's some city. Yeah. Then I got young Z on
Speaker 1: an album, young Z from the Outside of that's old school.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got there from a Jersey Nord. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that, uh Guilty Simpson from Detroit ship Man.
Speaker 1: I had Guilty Simpson on my show in twenty ten. Man,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that name in a long time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a Detroit You know. It's crazy because Detroit there's
Speaker 1: so many like, uh genres of Detroit hip hop. So
Speaker 1: like when I was growing up, obviously, eminem D twelve
Speaker 1: was like Obi Trice, Obi Trice. But then there was
Speaker 1: Slum Village, there was Jay Dilla, there was Black Milk,
Speaker 1: there was Guilty Simpson, there was all those guys. Obviously Royce,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And then now like Detroit's like low key,
Speaker 1: like top two or three hottest city and all of
Speaker 1: rap music. Everyone's getting signed out of Detroit. The street
Speaker 1: ship coming out of Detroit is crazy. Yeah, Doug Detroit
Speaker 1: right now. Baby Money, who just came up here, he
Speaker 1: just boy from street is probably my favorite. I love.
Speaker 1: I think baby Tron's got really funny like one lines
Speaker 1: his dad was signed a psychopath, which is funny. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean forty two Doug thoughs I would say he's so
Speaker 1: big that like, yeah, you gotta get him out of
Speaker 1: the underground. Yeah, but he's fucking hard bro. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: His voice is insane. His tone is crazy grow with
Speaker 1: his daddy. Dad was a cheddar Boy, east Side cheddar Boy.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the east Side Cheddar Boys to Q,
Speaker 1: I just checked out because I met little Blade Blade
Speaker 1: icewood Son out there and I just checked I actually
Speaker 1: just got around to finally listening to this shit his
Speaker 1: shit is cool, shot a little blade obviously. Pero Giovanni's
Speaker 1: going crazy. He's been going crazy for years. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: Detroit is. Detroit's going up right now man. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: QC just signed Vesso and they had signed Baby Money,
Speaker 1: So QC's tapping in heavy out. Yeah yeah, proud man,
Speaker 1: We're going crazy man. Yeah. Well do you why do
Speaker 1: you think there was such a big divide in like
Speaker 1: the genres of Detroit hip hop because it would feel
Speaker 1: like you would listen to even like say eight to
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Uh, you would listen to like Doe
Speaker 1: Boys cash Out and they'd be so different than what
Speaker 1: was going on with like maybe a Black Milk or
Speaker 1: even like a Big Sean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it ain't really no
Speaker 1: division because we all fucked with each other. It's just
Speaker 1: that it just I think the hip hop part pop first,
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, That's all people really knew.
Speaker 1: Detroit four was like you said, Jay Dilla and uh Royce, Yeah,
Speaker 1: roy Slum and then D twelve and andem so then,
Speaker 1: but it was always the gangster ship that was there.
Speaker 1: It's just that it hadn't you know, it wasn't popping
Speaker 1: like it is now, but it's still was rock Bottom
Speaker 1: Street lad or you know what I'm saying. May West
Speaker 1: Heliva Helva is a is you know, he was in
Speaker 1: a group back in the day. So, but they just
Speaker 1: didn't take off like the Oh because we got Detroit.
Speaker 1: We got a certain bounce, it's a certain flow pattern.
Speaker 1: If you know they are they all we all stay
Speaker 1: in a certain pocket, right, Yeah, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1: I noticed that. And then there's I mean, some of
Speaker 1: the greatest rappers of all Timer and Royce was like
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. But we gotta, we gotta, we gotta branch
Speaker 1: that division together between the younger Do you feel like
Speaker 1: m has could be doing a better job of that,
Speaker 1: because I feel like when I talked to the because
Speaker 1: I'm friends with a lot of the young guys in Detroit,
Speaker 1: and I feel like they feel like such a disc
Speaker 1: connect from m as to where like a guy like
Speaker 1: Big Sean he just had that cipher at the end
Speaker 1: of his album where he put everybody on that motherfucker
Speaker 1: like Sean's been doing it with a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like m could maybe do a better
Speaker 1: job of maybe like tapping in with like the movement
Speaker 1: in Detroit right now, I'm gonna work on that. I
Speaker 1: think it's my job to do that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. M is a you know, very private person,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, rightfully. So I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, Destroit is so small. I just sometimes we
Speaker 1: forget how big of his story he is, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I think about like a question
Speaker 1: like this, like like do you think every rapper from Brooklyn, no,
Speaker 1: jay Z No, But I do know give you a
Speaker 1: similar example. Okay, so let's rewind two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: eleven LA hip hop. At the time, there was Glasses Malone,
Speaker 1: there was a Nipsey hustle, there was all these guys
Speaker 1: from LA that we're doing dope shit. But at the time,
Speaker 1: specifically like a guy like nip like on my show
Speaker 1: Heat like, there was like I wouldn't say animosity, but
Speaker 1: there was definitely some sort of feeling that like damn,
Speaker 1: like doctor dre fucking with us, like the OG's la
Speaker 1: acknowledging what we got going on. Now. Obviously, two years later,
Speaker 1: dre put his arm around Kendrick Lamar and the rest
Speaker 1: is history. So I just think that like I think sometimes,
Speaker 1: like you know, I think I think a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Brought have been around
Speaker 1: all these of course, it was stars my whole life.
Speaker 1: I think through all these greats, doctor Dre's and Eminem,
Speaker 1: they all got they all got one of those middleman dudes,
Speaker 1: that type of man. Like for Dre it was Mike Lamb.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Mike Lamb probably brought half
Speaker 1: of more than half of the artists at Aftermath. So
Speaker 1: you know, great, great artists have gone through that level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of them went through Mike Lynn. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely with Marshall, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna tap a man a little bit more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I know I know this,
Speaker 1: he's willing to listen and been a special. Right now,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's at an all time high. I
Speaker 1: just treat that he he's so busy into doing his
Speaker 1: own ship. You know, I get it that you gotta
Speaker 1: yo check out this. He's anomerate. Let me show you
Speaker 1: baby money, you know what I'm saying. Because other than that,
Speaker 1: if me rychall Den. I don't really show him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's working so hard, you know
Speaker 1: it would probably won't be away. So I think the
Speaker 1: ogs and I'll take personal personally on this to bridge
Speaker 1: this gap. You know what I'm saying because I know
Speaker 1: all of them. I know the pss inside of the
Speaker 1: baby earlier. You know what I'm saying. I know all
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Speaker 1: they were like fucking five hundred dollars I should have
Speaker 1: bought was that like eight years ago? You could get
Speaker 1: a house out there for like nothing. It's crazy, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to house. They taking the furnace. It's
Speaker 1: crazy though, it's crazy. Well, you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: Danny Brown. Danny Brown had a song called a scrapper
Speaker 1: Die and the entire song is about Detroit and like
Speaker 1: the culture of like stripping houses of all the stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's that's some real ship. Yeah. Yeah. My cousin
Speaker 1: brought a house and he had to have his homies
Speaker 1: stay in the house just for him to because he
Speaker 1: dropped one load off of his of his ship and
Speaker 1: he had to go back and get the other load. Right,
Speaker 1: he had to have some people stay in the house
Speaker 1: just to make sure the first low was still there.
Speaker 1: And when they're like taking the piping out because you
Speaker 1: can sell all that, oh yeah right off the rip that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's like the catalytic converters right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are they doing that Detroit right now? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do that everywhere. Get you get a catalytic converter
Speaker 1: off somebody, it's straight money wherever you. I think there's
Speaker 1: like twelve hundred or some ship. There's no shortage of
Speaker 1: catalytic converters. The junkyards right now. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: damn crack has is bringing in things and at a time,
Speaker 1: my guy, that's for sure for sure. Yo. When you
Speaker 1: think back and you think of like your time with
Speaker 1: D twelve by the way Devil's Night. Yeah, fucking incredible project.
Speaker 1: I think I think of like v m A's I
Speaker 1: think of like MTV sh I just when I think
Speaker 1: of MTV, I think of like the Purple Hills video. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was a blurt. What was your craziest recording session during
Speaker 1: the D twelve days when you guys are working on
Speaker 1: those projects. Uh, craziest sessions? Oh man, it was like
Speaker 1: midget strippers. It was a lot of work. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of work. I think we had fun after
Speaker 1: the studio, but shit, you know, being in the studio
Speaker 1: in Man, sometimes you could You might get be in
Speaker 1: a booth for five six hours doing one verse over.
Speaker 1: He was such a perfectionist. Yeah, he was on your
Speaker 1: ass so like you had to. He had to make sure, Hey,
Speaker 1: look I'm on this mother with y'all. Y'all gotta make
Speaker 1: you get sick man. I mean I remember one time
Speaker 1: he got so sick with it. Man, I went home.
Speaker 1: He he wanted me to do some ad libs over
Speaker 1: and uh, I guess he could waiting for me. So
Speaker 1: I came back the day he had did him for me.
Speaker 1: Did they stay on there? He sounded just like me.
Speaker 1: My voice and I was like, bro, you are sick.
Speaker 1: You are sick, man, that's crazy. It was his his
Speaker 1: writing process like we like nowadays. A lot of the
Speaker 1: newer artists they punch in so they just do line
Speaker 1: by line and they don't really write anything down, which
Speaker 1: I think there's like positives and negatives to that. Positives
Speaker 1: you probably get a lot more done. I think negatively,
Speaker 1: like you maybe each line maybe don't count the way
Speaker 1: it should. Yeah, because you're coming up on the spot
Speaker 1: like what was was am? Always out of the notepad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: always out the notepad. Yeah, he feels like if he
Speaker 1: if he ain't feel like he feels like he's the
Speaker 1: total opposite to me. I don't write raps unless I'm
Speaker 1: going to the studio. It has to be a beat
Speaker 1: some of that ship I don't have. You don't have
Speaker 1: like notepads and ship. You asked me to spend a
Speaker 1: sixteen right now, I couldn't. Yeah, because you don't have
Speaker 1: to beat playing and I don't even know nothing. I
Speaker 1: don't even know them old ship. You don't remember any
Speaker 1: of your old lyrics. No, I have to ask the
Speaker 1: other group members. Stays right before the chorus coming SI
Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time. So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: but him, he feels like he's wasting the engineer's time
Speaker 1: if he don't have anything prepared. It's his studio and
Speaker 1: he's paying the engineer. Yeah yeah, but he felt like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm he's just got the no pad
Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah, you know. And I remember when
Speaker 1: some advice that he gave me that that I never followed.
Speaker 1: But I should have followed this ship, he said. Man,
Speaker 1: sometimes just go over the verses over and over again,
Speaker 1: like when you take it home and you said, ask yourself,
Speaker 1: did I say the dopest line right here? Could I?
Speaker 1: Could I have said something better right here? And if
Speaker 1: you think you could have, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: come and changing you know what I'm saying? Or but
Speaker 1: I never listened to I Like, then I'm going back
Speaker 1: to the hotel. But it's fucking frontil hours. Those those
Speaker 1: days on the road had to be crazy, oh man
Speaker 1: blur man, I bet yeah. Our ship was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the one the one good thing about me
Speaker 1: that balanced me out is I had a record out
Speaker 1: before D twelve called Attack of the Widows. So at
Speaker 1: least I did get that underground experience. I struggled. I
Speaker 1: did all the shot and went to New York. It
Speaker 1: was fucking nowhere. It stayed slepping cars, eight dollar slics, pieces,
Speaker 1: struggled nineties and underground wrap life. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I did that ship. So you know, so when we
Speaker 1: signed with Marshall, I mean it was just like boom instant.
Speaker 1: You already kind of like I'm used to this ship
Speaker 1: anything that. But we got hotels were good. Some of
Speaker 1: a couple of guys hadn't experienced that. They went straight
Speaker 1: from the private show. You in Proof like the most
Speaker 1: experienced the group prior I mean outside yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Proof Proof was signed to this label called Mari Mariic's
Speaker 1: Malone Clothings. He was signed I remember, yeah clothing Proof
Speaker 1: was signed to him, and I was signed the Federation
Speaker 1: record shoutouta Rico, oh wow, and uh yeah. So we
Speaker 1: we was pre seasoned, but you know, so we had
Speaker 1: that underground experience, but you know when we signed A
Speaker 1: Shady Man, it was straight private jets. Was the formation
Speaker 1: of D twelve prior to Eminem being in the group
Speaker 1: or was it something that happened like at the same time. No,
Speaker 1: D twelve happened before Eminem. Uh you know, yeah, Eminem
Speaker 1: was in the group from the beginning. It was six
Speaker 1: of us, you know what I'm saying. And no, it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be twelve, my bad supposedly be twelve,
Speaker 1: but we never could find twelve members to stick with us. So,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of ways to come. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, so we made six rappers with
Speaker 1: two personalities. Actually like that. Yeah, everybody's got two personalities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twelve people, thirty dozen yep, there you go, there it is.
Speaker 1: And and uh, it was a thirty dozen but uh,
Speaker 1: a rock band out of Maryland had the name, Oh,
Speaker 1: D twelve is dope, so we had to change the
Speaker 1: D twelve. Was there anybody who we may know of
Speaker 1: of any notoriety from the Detroit area that almost made
Speaker 1: the group that didn't l L l Z I L
Speaker 1: I almost was in D twelve. Yeah, you know, he
Speaker 1: was in it for a minute, but you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, going off doing his own thing. I
Speaker 1: don't ever think he ever came a session, but he
Speaker 1: definitely was was down with us. Damn, if l I'm lying,
Speaker 1: please don't strike me down, man. You know, if L
Speaker 1: Z I L I and eminem going back and forth
Speaker 1: on records would have been oh yeah, oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: he ended up in Slum Village. Yeah that was crazy too,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because he he ended up in like a
Speaker 1: what was that like the third version of Slum Village.
Speaker 1: So many moving parts. Yeah, it was a lot, man.
Speaker 1: It was hard to keep up with, to be honest. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot going on. It's crazy
Speaker 1: too because you came from like, you know, obviously in
Speaker 1: Detroit there's this there was this other era of like
Speaker 1: horror core rap kind of right, you think of like Sham,
Speaker 1: King Gordy obviously, the Psychopath record Ship. That was this other,
Speaker 1: like this whole other thing going on out there at
Speaker 1: the same time that you kind of also were like
Speaker 1: privy to as well. You personally obviously that movement like
Speaker 1: like obviously I want to get to the ICP beef,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious, like, was was there like a that
Speaker 1: scene of Detroit hip hop that was like more like
Speaker 1: really underground, Like I don't know if it's horror core,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. The ICP, the Sham,
Speaker 1: the King Gordy ship, you know, Yeah, they had like
Speaker 1: they had his own lane of his own you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it was very specific to that area.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you, I really never
Speaker 1: knew nothing about that world until I started fucking with
Speaker 1: King Gordy. Because King Gordy was signed the FBT was
Speaker 1: the same production company Marshall was signed too, So that's
Speaker 1: how we met King Gordy. And then when I started
Speaker 1: sucking with him and we started doing our projects, he
Speaker 1: was already kind of in the in the Juggler world,
Speaker 1: so he kind of, you know, it introduced me to it.
Speaker 1: So it was nothing like I never that I sought after.
Speaker 1: I kind of I grew up hip hop boombab of course,
Speaker 1: and it was like it's kind of a it's kind
Speaker 1: of a weird world, right, yeah, definitely, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all grown up now. Yeah I've yet to say,
Speaker 1: I yet to meet like a seventeen year old juggalo
Speaker 1: like now, like these days, you know, like you're all like, right,
Speaker 1: thirty seven right minimum, Right, it's still out here. Rocket.
Speaker 1: It's crazy though, because, like you know, I'll say this
Speaker 1: about them, they really, uh revolutionized merch. Yeah, they revolutionized
Speaker 1: being independent. They did some things that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are practicing nowadays. I think that they helped show
Speaker 1: like guys like Tech nine the Way and Strange Music
Speaker 1: the way. You know. So, but when you guys had
Speaker 1: your back and forth by the way, some of the
Speaker 1: best skits ever ken from Connecticut. And I definitely was
Speaker 1: not a big ICP fan growing up. I thought that
Speaker 1: ship was terrible. But I've gone to their shows, like
Speaker 1: I've had Fago fly by me in the crowd. But uh,
Speaker 1: how crazy did that? I ever get? Was that anything
Speaker 1: other than just being comedic or being like just some
Speaker 1: rap shit, some nineties rap beef shit, or was it
Speaker 1: ever like, oh no, no, he got serious? How serious
Speaker 1: did you get? It was serious? Like O sight, if
Speaker 1: we see them, they see us, it's whatever. And I
Speaker 1: think they ran in the marshall at a car shop
Speaker 1: or some ship like way back in the day. I
Speaker 1: forgot what happened, but yeah, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was serious, man. I remember one time we had
Speaker 1: to show with Saint Andrew and uh, I guess ICP
Speaker 1: had like a talent show something in the basement and
Speaker 1: when we was performing up top and we didn't know
Speaker 1: each other was gonna be there, and I just remember
Speaker 1: they fansy, they fans gave it away because they were
Speaker 1: not even. They were just giving us the meanest, like
Speaker 1: the dirtiest fucking looks. And I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Why why do you fucker keep looking at us? Every
Speaker 1: was like ICP in the basement, I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? But I think they end up squashing
Speaker 1: and beef that day and Trick Trick and vole Jay. Yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: that's crazy because that sounds like a hairy situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are upstairs, they're downstairs in the middle of
Speaker 1: a beach. Yeah, that could have gotten the first time
Speaker 1: we ever seen each other over the year, was your
Speaker 1: situation with Eachan did have anything to do with with
Speaker 1: ic P thing, because I know he was over there
Speaker 1: for those something separate, I know, but I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think his thing was Marshall was showing him respect
Speaker 1: by saying he was a cause between each Tim and Nazi,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I think I guess he took
Speaker 1: that disrespect or whatever, and which is a crazy thing
Speaker 1: to take. Ye in retrospect, Ishan right now is probably
Speaker 1: playing that line for his kids and being like, look,
Speaker 1: Eminem said, shout out the man. Yeah, cool man for sure.
Speaker 1: Also kind of like, you know, kind of set a
Speaker 1: lot of that groundwork for the Icy. Yeah. He definitely
Speaker 1: definitely legend. It shows you to be he was in
Speaker 1: high school doing that ship selling out shows Wow. That's
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Man. I got to ask you your opinion
Speaker 1: because I have a controversial opinion about this matter. Oh shit, okay,
Speaker 1: controversial I am. I am a part of the crowd
Speaker 1: that believes that Machine Gun Kelly won the battle against Eminem.
Speaker 1: Now I'll give you my reasoning and then I want
Speaker 1: you to give me your thoughts on it. I feel
Speaker 1: like MGK should not have stood a chance, right, I
Speaker 1: feel like the fact that anybody even quite the fact
Speaker 1: it's even a question to me means MGK one now lyrically.
Speaker 1: Did Eminem rap better on kill Shot? Of course he did,
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, the better disc record was the
Speaker 1: MGK diss record. And I feel like Eminem is probably
Speaker 1: the greatest MC of all time when it comes to
Speaker 1: putting words together, I mean, and so to me, it
Speaker 1: was like the fact that MGK, who's not known to
Speaker 1: get down like that, the fact we even anyone's even
Speaker 1: having a debate about it, means he won. Well, how
Speaker 1: do you feel. I feel like when the guy is,
Speaker 1: you know, playing basketball and they playing the Chicago Bulls
Speaker 1: tonight and you gotta guard Jordan and you do all
Speaker 1: right against him and you shut him down, and he
Speaker 1: usually score fifty at night, but to night he scores
Speaker 1: thirty five. I think it's a win win for you.
Speaker 1: So I just think that I'm just glad. I think
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that MDK did all he did all right, man,
Speaker 1: he did good. Shit, he should he should appall hisself.
Speaker 1: He made a good rap man. That's why I feel
Speaker 1: I'm like yo, man saying, but get out of here
Speaker 1: man before Yeah, he got in and out man. And
Speaker 1: I'm actually and I was very happy that that he
Speaker 1: pulled that out of m at this area's career, because
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Eminem just dropped that this record
Speaker 1: was it twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, Like this is amazing,
Speaker 1: Like the fact that he was at least able. Like
Speaker 1: the fact Eminem responded was even if he got washed,
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, and responded to you, you're on the
Speaker 1: artwork to the song, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like to be honest, you don't think you had who
Speaker 1: MGK before he did that. You ain't think yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: listening to his previous shiitt. I mean I would say
Speaker 1: this about MGK. I am pretty I would say I'm
Speaker 1: like pretty friendly with Kels and I feel like he
Speaker 1: doesn't he ain't no sucking. I feel like I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew MGK wasn't a sucker. I know he ain't
Speaker 1: a sucker. I know I know niggas that with Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and he's an amazing performer and lyrically he does his thing.
Speaker 1: And so when I heard the rap Devil Ship, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I mean, you know, okay, this is cool.
Speaker 1: Like but I was like when I saw the artwork
Speaker 1: to kill Shot, I was like, it's about to get ugly,
Speaker 1: It's about to get But then I came away from
Speaker 1: kill Shots saying I don't know, you know, And to me,
Speaker 1: the fact I even did that was like okay, well,
Speaker 1: like like you said, it was like kind of like
Speaker 1: you know, it was a little bit more a little
Speaker 1: closer than people expected. And I think in that in
Speaker 1: that term in the rap game, it's like, yo, man, MGK,
Speaker 1: you kind of came away with this. What do you
Speaker 1: think about Games is this. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: bit much. I was. I think Game is First of all,
Speaker 1: his album is dope. He's got a lot of great
Speaker 1: records on that. I think. I think Game with the
Speaker 1: eminem thing feel, it just feels it felt like a
Speaker 1: nice way to stir up some ship for an album
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm not sure. I just felt like I
Speaker 1: couldn't get past the damnin them voice. I know, I
Speaker 1: know Game can. I know he can rap better than that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know, I know he's
Speaker 1: a He's a problem, you know what I'm saying. Of
Speaker 1: course as a battle rapper, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or I got in the lyrics, I was waiting for
Speaker 1: the Okay, I feel like that was a little nice,
Speaker 1: little cute intro to me, it was like it's a
Speaker 1: ten minute song, right, and never got out of that though,
Speaker 1: So it's like if you stay he stayed in that.
Speaker 1: He stayed in that Marshall's body for the whole ten minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if you're going to make a ten minute record,
Speaker 1: like when we're gonna get a game, well, because what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking is he he had another one of those
Speaker 1: he had a when he was going against fifty, Game
Speaker 1: had a three hundred bars freestyle exactly, so we know
Speaker 1: I can do it. You heard that one. That shit
Speaker 1: was crazy, of course, and I was happening. God damn,
Speaker 1: that shit was crazy. He had the gu not ship.
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, I think I wasn't the craziest
Speaker 1: fan of it. I think that the album was dope.
Speaker 1: I just think that like it was probably probably could
Speaker 1: have left that one off. And then I'm sure, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he, like Game, is the type of
Speaker 1: guy who stands on his own like at all times,
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure he gives a fuck about what
Speaker 1: people think of it or his relationship with Eminem. He
Speaker 1: stopped caring about that a long time, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So yeah, I mean, so you weren't a
Speaker 1: fan oh that song? Yeah? No, no, no, I think
Speaker 1: I think you could have did better. Yeah, well, stack
Speaker 1: Quot did better? What you say or statquot could have
Speaker 1: did better? What are you trying to say? Hey, Stack
Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine. It's a good friend
Speaker 1: of mine too. Man, are you saying Stack Cole help
Speaker 1: write the song? Yeah? I ain't saying that. Man, shout
Speaker 1: out the Game. I was listen. I have to say
Speaker 1: this because I was in the studio a lot with
Speaker 1: the Game while he's making this out. He was no
Speaker 1: ghostwriters in there. I'll sell you that. But Stackquo is
Speaker 1: an amazing writer. Yeah former uh aftermath, I think about
Speaker 1: those Green Lantern mix tape days. Oh man, oh it's
Speaker 1: good times. Man. Yeah, I missed the mixtape era. That's
Speaker 1: my favorite Spring mixtapes back or is it still? No?
Speaker 1: It's it's over, man, It's over. DSP's ruined it because
Speaker 1: now you have to get everything cleared. Oh real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: imagine if you put a mixtape up wrapping over twenty five,
Speaker 1: like when the Dogiunit takes her, they're wrapping over everyone's beat.
Speaker 1: It's like, so, what what about put out a mixtape?
Speaker 1: You can put it on that pick for a SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: The problem is that people aren't there anymore. Oh okay
Speaker 1: it so it's like if you did that, you'd be
Speaker 1: it'd be kind of like you your best bet would
Speaker 1: be to put those on YouTube because the people are
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you could put up that kind of
Speaker 1: shit on YouTube. Okay, So like I would say YouTube
Speaker 1: because then if you put it out a free somebody
Speaker 1: gonna they're just gonna steal it and register the song
Speaker 1: for themselves, right would they? Yeah, they do that if
Speaker 1: I put out a song right now and for free.
Speaker 1: But an actual song or a song of you is
Speaker 1: somethingout free, I'm just giving it out. If I ain't
Speaker 1: registered with you should definitely do that, I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: if you don't, because back in the day when when
Speaker 1: Future putting them mixtapes out, they wasn't registered correct, like songs,
Speaker 1: so people was taking the ship. Those are actual songs.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about traditional mixtapes where you're rapping over other
Speaker 1: people's beads, Like I'm thinking like how fifty was remixing
Speaker 1: every high record instrumentals like yeah, it's a headache now yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no for sure. But now if you're putting out a
Speaker 1: free project, yeah you have to have on DSPs man,
Speaker 1: you gotta put distro kid too and core whatever you're doing,
Speaker 1: like you know, it'd be still like you said, if
Speaker 1: you ain't going to monetize, if someone else is gonna
Speaker 1: grab it off the Internet and they're gonna and they're
Speaker 1: gonna claim it. What do you think about rappers? Kid? Well,
Speaker 1: district Kid is not a label, so they can't sign
Speaker 1: the distric Kid. I think that if you're an established
Speaker 1: rappers not not not, I'm not mad at it. Think
Speaker 1: about it. What is the thing? Distro Kid is a
Speaker 1: distribution platform. Uh. There's distribution companies where their business model
Speaker 1: is they take a percentage of whatever you upload. And
Speaker 1: then there's distribution companies like tom Core and distro Kid
Speaker 1: where you pay one time. It's up. So to me,
Speaker 1: if I'm an independent rapper and let's say I have
Speaker 1: ten songs on my album with ten producers, that can
Speaker 1: get complicated taking care of everybody. If you sign up
Speaker 1: for that distro Kid, you just cut everybody in on
Speaker 1: the splits. Just be like, yo, what should sign up
Speaker 1: for district account? You're gonna get your percentage and then
Speaker 1: they do they handle the fucking grunt work for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Is there new ship on
Speaker 1: distroc Kid? Nope? Nope, nope on a label. I spoke
Speaker 1: too much. That's fine, trying to label? What does it go? Oh?
Speaker 1: They out a Nazyville though? Is it shift? Is it shift? Hey?
Speaker 1: Texas this goo call this guy Alma will be ready
Speaker 1: around three thirty. Yeah, have you done the distal Kid
Speaker 1: ship or the Tune Course ship. Nope not Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I put out one song through think about that.
Speaker 1: Ship is like one artists. It's very very easy to
Speaker 1: like take care of everybody. Yeah yeah, I get like
Speaker 1: the little splits all the time from like collapses. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you do very if you do a feature for
Speaker 1: somebody and they're on distrial Kid, like, yo, what's your
Speaker 1: distal account, I'm going to cut you in like whatever
Speaker 1: the percent I get them all the time, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's dope. So that's why it's dope. And like
Speaker 1: I fuck with distro Kid. It's it's very like you
Speaker 1: hit upload and that and they handle the splits and
Speaker 1: that's it. So you can't expect like to you know,
Speaker 1: you got to picture on playlist, you gotta do all
Speaker 1: that shit. But in terms of like the usability of
Speaker 1: it is great. Just hit upload, upload your artwork, boom,
Speaker 1: pay once and you're in there. Man, Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like all these independent labels be lying
Speaker 1: about marketing budgets too, distro Kid, Yeah, maybe gonna spend
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand of marketing you give me up front.
Speaker 1: It's the problem now, nowadays the problem is nowadays, what
Speaker 1: is marketing exactly? So if they tell you they're going
Speaker 1: to spend one hundred thousand dollars on marketing, well, let
Speaker 1: me audit what that one hundred k went to, because
Speaker 1: they could say, well, we did one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in let's say ten thousand of it went to a
Speaker 1: YouTube buy. Yeah, okay, well did it go to a
Speaker 1: Google did it go to a Google buy, or did
Speaker 1: it go to you buying fake views? And then you're
Speaker 1: pocketing the difference because that's what a lot of these
Speaker 1: motherfuckers are doing, is they'll tell artists that they're yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a Google ad buy on the video or
Speaker 1: a YouTube ad. Instead they dropped half of it on
Speaker 1: fake views and then keep the other half. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun you're going on, man, you just gotta
Speaker 1: audit the fuck out all these motherfuckers. It's like someone
Speaker 1: tells you, oh, yeah, we spent this much and not recouited,
Speaker 1: Like yo, let me let me I need to see
Speaker 1: word exactly where that money went. Like, wait, you charged
Speaker 1: me ten thousand dollars to edit a song and make
Speaker 1: it clean? What the fuck that was? That was happening
Speaker 1: with a good friend of mine who's a great rapper
Speaker 1: who has a bunch of giant red hair, where he
Speaker 1: was signed to a label and they were they were
Speaker 1: doing that kind of ship where they were like he'd
Speaker 1: be like, yo, how am I not recouped? And it'd
Speaker 1: be like, well, yo, you guys charge me X amount
Speaker 1: of dollars for this for this weed is recoupable weed? Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: What does that mean if they buy the label spin
Speaker 1: weed and you gotta pay you bet? Really? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: sounds good? Oh g ship with the label back in
Speaker 1: the day, like when you guys are working on ship,
Speaker 1: like when you're on interscope, would they buy they buy weed?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell yeah, all that come out of the
Speaker 1: b Yeah. Anything to keep you fusing doing these interviews. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I saw Amsterdam? Oh oh yeah, Amsterdam? Right?
Speaker 1: Would the prostitutes be recoupable as well? In Amsterdam? I
Speaker 1: played for my own horse. I'm just curious if you
Speaker 1: go to if you go to the Red Light District
Speaker 1: on a promo tour, can you invoice the label for
Speaker 1: the prostitutes? I think you can, at least back then
Speaker 1: you probably could have. Now nowadays, you can't. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Nowadays that's not happening. But oh no, I paid for
Speaker 1: oh one, yeah, yeah, have you done the new Amsterdam thing.
Speaker 1: I've never been like, yes, amsterdamn thing. Yeah, every time
Speaker 1: I went there, how was it? I want to get you.
Speaker 1: I was about to give you a fake ass answer.
Speaker 1: The experience was cool. But I'm like, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: one of them dudes that like so like these girls
Speaker 1: are in the window and they like in these apartment buildings.
Speaker 1: When you walk up the stairs, they'll tell you what
Speaker 1: number they are, Like, what number you I'm at number sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna knock on her door. She's like
Speaker 1: in a fucking closet basically with some license shit. So
Speaker 1: then you look and then she got like a thousand
Speaker 1: Connors and her dresser and baby wipes over here. So
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta feel like I'm being loved, Like
Speaker 1: I got to one girlfriend I needed you almost have
Speaker 1: her come to the hotel. I need to look in
Speaker 1: your eyes. Looking at your soul doesn't for me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie that surprises me that that's just
Speaker 1: based on like who I think you are off of
Speaker 1: the music. I would not expect that. I'd expect you
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, bro, fucking ninety nine had eleven
Speaker 1: prostitutes in one room in the red light district. Coke
Speaker 1: off my dick, off my ass in the side of
Speaker 1: my eyes. Anyway, Jesus, you got a chick blows coke
Speaker 1: up your eyes. No, No, that sounds that sounds sketch.
Speaker 1: I rap about it. It sounds like a fucking You
Speaker 1: watch the beginning of Snowfall season one, Oh yeah, where
Speaker 1: the chick dies because they or is it the guy
Speaker 1: that dies? The guy died because the girls were blowing
Speaker 1: cocaine ups. So I did it a lot of times,
Speaker 1: but I never really busted doing this shit because it
Speaker 1: felt like it was it was fake, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's fair. So it was hard for
Speaker 1: you to like reach full climax messing with women. You
Speaker 1: paid for it. I mean, I'm so bad for it.
Speaker 1: I feel like she was a slave with something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you see you see fifty condoms on the fucking
Speaker 1: she got a bowl of condoms. And over here, I
Speaker 1: like to point out, guys, this is a great opportunity
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Speaker 1: a character on these records. You care I was trying
Speaker 1: to rescue them. Girls. Man, I'm gonna start a foundation
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Speaker 1: back to the interview, Yo, when you had mister Cartoon
Speaker 1: do your belly? Okay, one of the most conic wrap
Speaker 1: tattoos ever? Yeah? Was that on tour? Yes? Yes, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1: So which tour was his Anger Management tour is the
Speaker 1: first one I'm out for sure, But uh man, this
Speaker 1: dude was he was doing He was doing everybody, So
Speaker 1: you know, he was so booked up that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I had to make it. I
Speaker 1: made an appointment. I think he had just did fifty.
Speaker 1: He was tattooed everybody. Everybody was tatting. Every day, somebody
Speaker 1: was getting tatted. So it was my time. He was
Speaker 1: gonna do my stomach and uh, he said, what do
Speaker 1: you want? Said, I want to I want to colloge
Speaker 1: the Detroit. I want the buildings in the background, the
Speaker 1: Corney Islands liquor stores, the pit bulls to just grim
Speaker 1: its trades. Okay, So he drew it. He drew it
Speaker 1: on me first, and then I had to go perform,
Speaker 1: you know, because he said a big festival and ship overseas.
Speaker 1: So I went and performed, rocked the show, sweated it off,
Speaker 1: came back and I didn't know that the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world you could do is get a tattooed
Speaker 1: with open sweat and pours. So before I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, yo, yo, is this tattoo gonna hurt? He said, no, man,
Speaker 1: you know you're good. You're good. So then when he
Speaker 1: started doing the ship, like everybody pulling their cameras out
Speaker 1: and shcause like I'm like that's a tough place too.
Speaker 1: I said, I thought you said this ship wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: hurt He said, yeah, it's not gonna hurt me. Dang, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I had to. I had to sit there and
Speaker 1: pain bro that ship. That ship was crazy, man. But
Speaker 1: I was told they sell me. Once you start, you
Speaker 1: can't stop. But that would be like you got to
Speaker 1: finish it, like torn with half a tattoo on your belly.
Speaker 1: They would have said that's bizarre. I couldn't get away
Speaker 1: with it. Yes, no, but I had to do it, man.
Speaker 1: They I would have been a pussy if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: finished it. Man, Yo, Back then when drugs are like
Speaker 1: safe to do, Like how crazy did the drug use
Speaker 1: get like at the peak? Like peaked the twelve days?
Speaker 1: Like was it crazy? Because like we always hear about
Speaker 1: eminem and like his issues. Obviously the shots to him
Speaker 1: is he's been sober for a while. It got it
Speaker 1: got pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean ship, we all have fun,
Speaker 1: but I just remember getting crazy, like at the crazy
Speaker 1: spot like Amsterdam. You know it was like ecstasy was
Speaker 1: a coke because I like back then it was like
Speaker 1: peak like X days, right X days. Yeah, I won't
Speaker 1: really with the cocaine Viking in yeah, Viking anything, we
Speaker 1: can get your head of PM, fucking veil PM, whatever,
Speaker 1: Jesus rovertesting whatever. But no, man, Amsterdam was that spot
Speaker 1: man shrooms? Shrooms, I don't forget about shrooms. Shrooms are
Speaker 1: still great. I didn't cancel the two shows off of shrooms.
Speaker 1: What happened? I couldn't do it? Which were these solo shows?
Speaker 1: Were these? So you just got And then one time
Speaker 1: I did some shrooms in Saint Louis and Marshall. Uh
Speaker 1: see me, he said. I was like five miles away
Speaker 1: from the venue and they was coming back from sound checking.
Speaker 1: They seen me walking on the side of the road
Speaker 1: and they stopped me and they said, Yo, where the
Speaker 1: fuck is you going? They said. I said, I was
Speaker 1: going to join the gang off of shrooms. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I left the shrooms alone. Man. So when you canceled, yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed shrooms. Yeah I got some gummies for if
Speaker 1: you want some. Yeah, okay, fuck it, I'm back. So
Speaker 1: before you, but when you when you when you canceled
Speaker 1: the shows, was it just because, like you were, you
Speaker 1: were having a pretty serious emotional moment. Was it a trip?
Speaker 1: You know, I'll lie. One with shrooms. One was edibles.
Speaker 1: The worst edibles do me worse than shroom. Of course
Speaker 1: they do, is that they're the devil. And that's how
Speaker 1: eating weed is the worst ship anyone can do. If
Speaker 1: you eat I just think, if you eat too much weed,
Speaker 1: you're fucked, Like it's over for you. Like it's like
Speaker 1: a different effect from from smoking. It's totally different. So
Speaker 1: I guess so when you eat it, there's some compound
Speaker 1: that your body breaks it down and like activates like
Speaker 1: a psychoactive chemical that's a lot more stronger than if controls. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm no. When you eat too much weed, man,
Speaker 1: fuck that ship is rough. It is like panicking, is
Speaker 1: I've puked? I've like, like, like you said, when you
Speaker 1: eat too much shrooms, you might trip or you might
Speaker 1: really like get into like a wormhole of your thoughts.
Speaker 1: But you you're not, like at least personally me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've never been out of control. I
Speaker 1: feel like on edibles, there have been times where I
Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't move my legs, Like I went
Speaker 1: to a I went to a wouldn't Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: can't move I'm inaudible, right, I had a I had
Speaker 1: to cancel the show. And how I did it. The
Speaker 1: promoter was in It was in Flint. Oh my bad.
Speaker 1: It was in Flint, and the promoter was in the lobby,
Speaker 1: and I called my role manager, oh love, and uh,
Speaker 1: all of all the guys that was with me and
Speaker 1: we all met in the hallway and I looked at
Speaker 1: him and I said, Yo, I'm not gonna be here
Speaker 1: to perform the night. And it was like what they said,
Speaker 1: the promoters in the lobby. I said, I no, man,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. I was like, oh, pull the
Speaker 1: car to the back of the hotel and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go down the fucking steers so he can't see me
Speaker 1: and leave. And everybody was like, what the fuck? But
Speaker 1: my boy, oh Love, he's crazy too, so so by
Speaker 1: him being crazy, he's seen it crazy in my eyes
Speaker 1: and said, okay, cool and he got me out of there. Man, Nah,
Speaker 1: shout out to my man, flake hollow at me. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a free show for y'all. Makeup? Man?
Speaker 1: How long ago? Is this about? Ten years ago? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's already took the l He's already at
Speaker 1: the yelp. He ran off with the deposit at the
Speaker 1: back door. Man, the shroom, I mean the edibles did it? Man?
Speaker 1: Are cool? Because like I think shroom's like if you
Speaker 1: like you said that was that shot that King Gordy
Speaker 1: did that? Actually he told me. See he makes he
Speaker 1: uh him and his partner. They they do their butter
Speaker 1: for like two weeks until it looks like tar mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And they used like the O G cush the powerful
Speaker 1: they can use. And I had took an edible before,
Speaker 1: like maybe a week before, and and I had went
Speaker 1: crazy on his edible. So then this time he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: these ain't ain't that strong like that? They just regular,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? You good? I said, you sure? Man?
Speaker 1: He said yeah. And then after hour Kitty and I
Speaker 1: looked at my seat, I thought you said that they
Speaker 1: wasn't that strong, and they just busted out laughing and
Speaker 1: thought this ship was so funny, like you fucking idiot
Speaker 1: the promoter and Flint didn't think it was funny. Man, please, man,
Speaker 1: please forgive me, man, Oh my god, that shit is crazy. Man, Derek,
Speaker 1: you never canceled the podcast because he was saying, nah,
Speaker 1: so the highest I ever been in my life was
Speaker 1: at a yellow Olf for Ritz show. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: shout out the Ritz and I ate. I ate a
Speaker 1: whole brownie that I did. That's like, this was twenty fourteen, thirteen.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was supposed to eat. It tastes
Speaker 1: so good, yeah, a little piece and it wasn't so
Speaker 1: it wasn't even like a big, big brownie. It was
Speaker 1: like a like a little square yeah, and so uh,
Speaker 1: I ate it. And like an hour goes by. I'm
Speaker 1: like on Rich's bus. Everything's cool, We're chilling, and I
Speaker 1: don't feel nothing. So He's like, yoa, I'm about to
Speaker 1: go on stage, so follow mym like, gad, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch it from the crowd or whatever. Cool. So as
Speaker 1: soon as he starts performing, it hits me like a
Speaker 1: fucking semi truck. I could not move my legs. Damn.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was planted into the ground like
Speaker 1: I not only that every Like, have you ever been
Speaker 1: so high that you felt like your senses were heightened? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure. So I'm in this concert. It's probably eight
Speaker 1: hundred people there, and I felt like I could hear everybody,
Speaker 1: no matter how far they were. I could like hone
Speaker 1: in on somebody at the bar like two hundred feet
Speaker 1: away from me in the middle of a concert, and
Speaker 1: hear exactly what they were saying. And then I look
Speaker 1: on stage and next to Riz's ugly ass is a
Speaker 1: fucking cartoon Garfield cat with fucking dollar signs like slot machines,
Speaker 1: dollar signs like going and stopping. And I'm just I
Speaker 1: grabbed my boy and I'm just like, Brian needs you
Speaker 1: to carry me out to the backstage. So my my
Speaker 1: best friend Gio had he like picks me up like
Speaker 1: a and I'm mind, this is my hometown. People know
Speaker 1: who I am. So I get carried like a baby
Speaker 1: to the couch on the side of the stage. Bro.
Speaker 1: And like, for some reason, every time I heavily do
Speaker 1: too much when it comes to shrooms or weed edibles,
Speaker 1: the ship that would that would happen to somebody who's
Speaker 1: fucked up happens in front of me. Like dude, this
Speaker 1: Native American dude with a whole fucking headdress like legit.
Speaker 1: And you know how natives love fucking like rits and
Speaker 1: yellow wolf and like that. You know that that world
Speaker 1: around Yeah, they do, God, they do, shout out. They
Speaker 1: got livers on that No so this Native American dude.
Speaker 1: I'm on the curb right outside of the doors Club
Speaker 1: Red and Tempee and I'm like hunched over the curb
Speaker 1: like I just got him puke and everywhere, this fucking
Speaker 1: Native American dude with feathers your bootleg cav. I look up.
Speaker 1: I said, shit, Wow, I look at my boy g.
Speaker 1: I said, and mind you. Not the best thing to say,
Speaker 1: but I was like, Yo, is this Indian motherfucker real?
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I'm real. What do you mean.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm tripping balls right now? What's up? Right?
Speaker 1: Then the Indian dude standing here shout out to Yellow
Speaker 1: Road manager at the time. His name is Brooklyn. He
Speaker 1: was a very violent guy. They dragged some fucking dude
Speaker 1: from the crowd out there, beating the ship out of him,
Speaker 1: like three feet in front of me. I start throwing
Speaker 1: up while the Indian guy's there, while this guy's getting
Speaker 1: beat up. It's all happening at the fucking same time.
Speaker 1: I'm fucked. Rich is there laughing, smoking a cigarette. It's
Speaker 1: just the worst. It was one of the worst nights
Speaker 1: of my life. Damn. And then I ate an edible
Speaker 1: two months ago, my new house. First time I had
Speaker 1: edibles in like two years. I was like, you know, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: maybe like a year and I had, uh, grit, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm curled up on the couch. Bro. My wife and
Speaker 1: her friend are upstairs dying because I am curled up
Speaker 1: on the couch freaking the fuck out. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find something to put on TV that I'll like put
Speaker 1: my mind at ease. First I try Family Guy and
Speaker 1: I'm like nah. Then I just put on like Ocean Noises.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was there. I went in the
Speaker 1: bathroom and chucked everywhere. Something about eating too much edible
Speaker 1: is always puked. Oh you always get sick. I eat
Speaker 1: up with storm Man, yeah, or that, or you'll just
Speaker 1: be like when I when I hit dabs, that's when
Speaker 1: I eat. When I like smoking dap action. Bronson smoked
Speaker 1: me under a fucking whiskeyly for fucking put me in light.
Speaker 1: So don't don't do what dad with him your half.
Speaker 1: He's going to intentionally try to get you out of
Speaker 1: That's what actually Bronson did early dab days too, So
Speaker 1: this was like before everyone knew about dabbing like that.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, you haven't dabbed he's like, so
Speaker 1: he gives me one. He's like, no, no, you take
Speaker 1: a bit, kid, it's not that serious. Take a big
Speaker 1: So I took a big case. Exactly terrible. Right. So
Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, now you got to try a flavor.
Speaker 1: I got this whole thing on film. It's great. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: now you gotta try a flavor. So I hit it again,
Speaker 1: three hits in a row. I do. Oh. It was
Speaker 1: Mac Miller Action Bronson a chance to rap on tour,
Speaker 1: and that was the one of the I was fucking
Speaker 1: high out of my brainstand bro, watching Mac Miller on stage. Bro,
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is That was probably the
Speaker 1: third highest I've ever been. Shout out to the Action Bronson. Man,
Speaker 1: who who are you a fan of? Man? Like what artists?
Speaker 1: Right now? Are you really like? Just kudos? He's the city.
Speaker 1: No no, no, in general period ship ship Damn. I
Speaker 1: gotta think about it, oh, man, hold on, fan though,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I don't want to sound typical. I
Speaker 1: don't think people would expect you to. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like him. I like, uh, damn, I know I'm about
Speaker 1: the fuck his name, but I'm gonna try to get
Speaker 1: it right. The kid that be throwing shows in his backyard. Russell.
Speaker 1: I was just at his house last weekend, Okay, I went.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I met his mom, his dad was cooking.
Speaker 1: I've known the Russell for about a year and a half.
Speaker 1: But how is this setup? Is this? It's literally the
Speaker 1: how is that? His mom, him and his dad and
Speaker 1: his I think I don't know if his sisters or not.
Speaker 1: But the house he grew up in, he built up
Speaker 1: benu in the backyard, bleachers on each side, and then
Speaker 1: there's like a pergola and two hundred people in the
Speaker 1: backyard rocking. His dad's making barbecue. It was amazing. It
Speaker 1: was like one of the most like inspirational. I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is fucking this is crazy, right, And
Speaker 1: he's very like when motherfuckers say they're independent, now you
Speaker 1: ain't independent. He's independent, Like he's really it's him. It's
Speaker 1: it's like his team is super small. I mean I
Speaker 1: went into his office and it's like, again, this is
Speaker 1: the house he grew up in. He's got his office
Speaker 1: and he's got a whiteboard just with everything playing the
Speaker 1: what Instagram post are going up for the day, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. It's inspiring. Russell's dope super and could
Speaker 1: rap his ass off right shout out to him, he'd
Speaker 1: be saying some ill shit. I like Larry June too.
Speaker 1: Larry June is fire, Larry June is doing his thing,
Speaker 1: running it up right now. When you see these whack
Speaker 1: rapper lists, I know you talked about the Gilly thing before,
Speaker 1: but when you see these lists, you're always on the list.
Speaker 1: How do you genuinely feel about that? Oh, that's that's why.
Speaker 1: That's basically why he got a gun came out. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's why I have to get
Speaker 1: back in my bag. You know what I'm saying. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I think I'm a comedian rapper, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to the just just saying anything,
Speaker 1: even if it ain't it on rhyme or it's just
Speaker 1: crazy or just playing that role. So like you were
Speaker 1: playing it like I think with people what you said earlier,
Speaker 1: like you were legitimately playing a character. And well yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, So that's that's why I'm here to change it.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm literally here right now, in your face.
Speaker 1: So you're like, yo, I'm tired of these lists. So
Speaker 1: outside of your guy with the six Cats and the
Speaker 1: four Dogs and the Children a Fall and that and
Speaker 1: the Sony Acid that was god damn. That was also
Speaker 1: a motivating factor for you to get back in your back,
Speaker 1: like I'm tired of this ship. Yeah for sure, for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I didn't put too much work in a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. I am a battle rapper.
Speaker 1: I started off from the hip hop shop. That's why
Speaker 1: I met Marshall. If I was a whack rapper, they
Speaker 1: would have never put me in D twelve because D
Speaker 1: twelve was a hand picked click of kill battle rappers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, once we got in the industry,
Speaker 1: we kind of like had to find our way, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like all that ship was kind
Speaker 1: of like an accident. Even a shower cap started off
Speaker 1: as a joke and then it just became they just
Speaker 1: stuck that ship with me, I mean, and it worked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it worked, and I'm grateful for it. But now
Speaker 1: it's time to show motherfuckers that I you know, I
Speaker 1: could rap man. He can't put me on a fucking
Speaker 1: list with you know, soaked shakra or or snow or
Speaker 1: which snow? You know snow? They informer snow? No, you're
Speaker 1: not not snow from a Texas uh informer informa that snow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even he. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a rapper. I think they were just high. Who's
Speaker 1: your top three? Bizarre? Who's your top your top three
Speaker 1: worst rappers of all time? My top three worst rappers
Speaker 1: of all the time? Oh god, let me think about that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll give you mine. Yeah to me. Playboy
Speaker 1: Cardi fucking god awful. I don't get it. Saw him live.
Speaker 1: It sounded like he was having a fucking seance on stage,
Speaker 1: was going on his fans are crazy and being the
Speaker 1: fucking fuck you. Playboy Cardi is definitely taking the cake
Speaker 1: for me. I think technically speaking, I mean I enjoyed Silk,
Speaker 1: the Shockers and music vastly. But when you go back
Speaker 1: and listen now, you're like, oh, that was interesting, and
Speaker 1: then you got to start thinking about guys like Little
Speaker 1: zand damn Little is terrible, oh man, or just you
Speaker 1: just don't understand him. No, no, no, I get the
Speaker 1: like he had one record that was dope, but his
Speaker 1: ship sucks. Stack Quo will tell you his ship sucks
Speaker 1: and he was sign will tell you damn his ship was.
Speaker 1: Like he he just never was focused enough to like
Speaker 1: make musical priorities. So the music that I outside of
Speaker 1: that skittle song, like, I just thought he was just
Speaker 1: a god off our. Damn. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a god off man. Yah. You think anybody, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of somebody. What about anybody from like a
Speaker 1: rapper's crew. I'm trying to think who was a part
Speaker 1: of Q who really horrible? Horrible? Okay put the horrible
Speaker 1: tag on proz Okay, ghetto respect, Yeah, of disrespect. Though
Speaker 1: I know he probably gonna come after me. I don't
Speaker 1: want to battle. There was the who was the guy
Speaker 1: who was NAS's bodyguard? Big hulk, big horse, Yeah, bodyguard,
Speaker 1: he's a horse? Is uh? Was there someone in murdering?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what though, there was some
Speaker 1: shitty rappers back in the day, man, there were some
Speaker 1: bad Yeah. I think we I think I think so
Speaker 1: the Shaker suffices for my nineties. You're gonna go with
Speaker 1: the shocker like that. I had a no limit chain too,
Speaker 1: so it hurts me. Oh, I don't know, man. It
Speaker 1: was for Mystical, the chain was for no the chain
Speaker 1: was for Ghetto Dope. That was Hey Shots to master P. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not the best rapper I think, classic album though, love
Speaker 1: gets Yeah, yeah, charge it to the game, great out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen is whack. I'm just saying he was
Speaker 1: fucking Maya. So he was fucking Maya in ninety nine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, shot No, I said it, so you can't
Speaker 1: say it, but yeah, yeah, damn you can see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so who can you say? Anybody from Psychopath Records? It
Speaker 1: was just terrible. How about the whole fucking label? I said,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ the Cavs on the road, right, Jesus. You
Speaker 1: know what, though, I'm gonna be honest, I didn't listen
Speaker 1: to a lot of that ship. My cousins were into
Speaker 1: that ship, so maybe I just am not versed enough,
Speaker 1: but I know some of that ship, Like my cousin
Speaker 1: would be listening to like a Blazia Dead Homie album
Speaker 1: or something, and it just sounded like noise, like bad noise,
Speaker 1: Like it sounded like if my dad tried to rap
Speaker 1: type ship you know, oh my god. Never was the
Speaker 1: other guy who was like the native dude with like
Speaker 1: the braids. Any yeah, just terrible, just terrible. Twisted is
Speaker 1: cool right there, all right, Twist is cool. But i
Speaker 1: CP had some cool ship, you know, great MALINKA was
Speaker 1: like the only album I think I've ever really listened to,
Speaker 1: and it was like I was all right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: now those are pretty much like everyone who wasn't Twisted
Speaker 1: or ICP on Psychopath Records. We could probably let me
Speaker 1: google the worst fifty rappers. There's a list that just
Speaker 1: came out. It is it just went viral. I just
Speaker 1: saw it. A new list. Oh this is here. It
Speaker 1: is worst rappers list. So Little Yachti's on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: litis not garbage. I love Little YACHTI. Silk the Shockers
Speaker 1: number one I'm opening Oh yeah, so I'm opening it
Speaker 1: right now, Little YACHTI. Number two. That's fucking Cap Master
Speaker 1: P three OJ the juice Man, Cap bullshit, little Flip Cap.
Speaker 1: Little Flick could wrap his ass off, Little Pump. There's
Speaker 1: an argument to be made, Smoke Purp, argument to be
Speaker 1: made six ' nine. Um, I would say he's terrible.
Speaker 1: He made some bangers. Diddy's on here walk a flock
Speaker 1: of that's bullshit. Coiler Ray Birdman, Birdman has too much
Speaker 1: music that he's rapping on that I actually they're really
Speaker 1: enjoy Vanilla Ice Kid Boo God awful rapper. He's the
Speaker 1: guy who pretended like he was cloned to some clout
Speaker 1: Cloud era rap. Shit. It's terrible Yeat. You know what
Speaker 1: what the worst rapper of all time might be Yeats.
Speaker 1: This new kid Yeats. His ship is horrible, but the
Speaker 1: kids love him, so maybe I'm old ben Zeno Benzino.
Speaker 1: How do we not think of him? I never listened
Speaker 1: to his music, nobody did. You can't clause to fire,
Speaker 1: blue Face Cardi, Little Big Nick Cannon, Oh no, Nick Cannon,
Speaker 1: that's my dog man. I can't say no comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you won't get him a wild Chicks see Nick Cannoning
Speaker 1: Ching had some bangers though, Saint Lunatics, Aggygyzella maybe designer
Speaker 1: maybe no designer anyway, he's not not why Yeah he
Speaker 1: all right? I ain't gonna put him in a way.
Speaker 1: French Montana ain't twins, Mike Jones, Little Uzy, flow Rider,
Speaker 1: slash people this listen this list, don't know what they're
Speaker 1: talking about. Pete Pablo Okay, Gucci Maine, relax exactly, Tony Yeo, relax.
Speaker 1: I love thoughts of a predicated film. Tom McDonald, he's
Speaker 1: the white guy, the Maga rapper. I'll sign, I'll go
Speaker 1: sign that. Actually, there's a lot of weird like Maga
Speaker 1: rap going on right now. That's probably the worst shit ever,
Speaker 1: So I would I would just like to continue my
Speaker 1: beef with these guys and say what Adam Calhoun and
Speaker 1: all those guys are the worst rappers of all time,
Speaker 1: the absolute worst. I see come back come at me
Speaker 1: in the comments. Bro fucking weirdos. Little b the bass
Speaker 1: guy who can't disrespect the base guy, he'll put he'll
Speaker 1: put a curse on us. Gotta gutda Gtta gutda from
Speaker 1: from Young Money was actually not a bad rapper. I
Speaker 1: would say so. I mean literally, I would say so.
Speaker 1: The Shakers is you're not on this list, Damn. I
Speaker 1: mighta step my game up a little bit. The album
Speaker 1: works off the Liz. They got Playboy Cardio on here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Playboy Cardi. They got Nelly on here, Yeah, Nelly's incredible.
Speaker 1: Relax Iggy, I get it. You can't put Future on
Speaker 1: this list. Future is one of the best rappers of
Speaker 1: all time in my opinion. Yeah, somebody's just made up
Speaker 1: a list. Somebody. I don't nothing to do, man. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the interview. Anything else
Speaker 1: on the horizon, obviously the album is out, but like,
Speaker 1: are you are you gonna be torn? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: be doing anything else? Um? Yeah yeah, probably over start
Speaker 1: towing first of next year, working on He Got a
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Speaker 1: Uh fucking I'm a lonely man with an only fan,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna be on there beating off. I'm a
Speaker 1: lonely man with the only fan. I don't understand. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to that cliche. I'm a lonely man. It don't
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Speaker 1: how many think about doing porn? You thought about it?
Speaker 1: I thought about it? Has there been any official after shot? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't, don't you think so? Yeah? I won't. I
Speaker 1: don't't let you see in this body. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: put it behind the paywall. Go crazy, only wear a
Speaker 1: mask and ship right. Yeah, but you also have tattoos
Speaker 1: to be like, look at this, that's bizarre. I know now.
Speaker 1: Someone else got the same tattoo for mister Cartoon in
Speaker 1: fucking two thousand and one. That's not me, man, it
Speaker 1: looks like Walter Ego. You know these rappers do it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't me. Hey, do you remember the energy when
Speaker 1: like fifty first came on to Shady Like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like did did you guys know that was coming down
Speaker 1: the pipeline. Did y'all know that M was just a
Speaker 1: fan or like like no, no, no, no, uh, fifty
Speaker 1: security was from the Queens. No, no, all M Security
Speaker 1: was from Queens. So they kind of put us up
Speaker 1: on fifty with the mixtapes and ship. So it kind
Speaker 1: of like gradually grew on him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know he became a fan. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when he he definitely changed shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That had to be like had to be security. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well when I tell you, like I always tell people, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Peak Snoop Dogg in Peak
Speaker 1: fifty years like the two big things I've ever seen
Speaker 1: like hip hop ever, Yeah, like Doggy style Snoop get
Speaker 1: Richard I trying fifty Yeah, pandemonium just oh yeah, insane.
Speaker 1: That was that was it. That was it. That was
Speaker 1: insane time, man. Yeah. It was like I mean, and
Speaker 1: then everybody and then just amming fifty going at every
Speaker 1: fucking buddy's neck, going at Murder, inc. Going at Jermaine Duprie,
Speaker 1: going and fucking going at every were you just in
Speaker 1: like during that time? Were you just like openly inheriting
Speaker 1: every beef just because fuck it. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: every yeah, yeah, we had to be on point. But
Speaker 1: the proofs security. I'm assuming the murder Ink Ship probably
Speaker 1: got the most serious out of all that ship. All
Speaker 1: of it was serious, but yeah it was well the
Speaker 1: Moby beef wasn't serious. That might have been a serious
Speaker 1: one of all beef. No, I could. I just feel
Speaker 1: like that the other murder Ink ship ship was getting crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, Shanty cost some ship raising
Speaker 1: that thing man that wow. Man, the sideburn line, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, the uh Sugar because Sugar was with them?
Speaker 1: Oh man, was was serious? It had They've gotten interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but produced some amazing hip hop, a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that didn't even make it to any albums, all on mixtapes.
Speaker 1: All the mixtape ship was so crazy, bring the mixtapes back, man.
Speaker 1: That's like when he re released what was the twenty
Speaker 1: anniversary we just did? Was it for eminem Show? Yeah? Nah?
Speaker 1: Now before that he did like an eminem Show re
Speaker 1: released and he re released one of the mixtape records
Speaker 1: that was out forever but it's on DSPs. Now was
Speaker 1: so fucking excited he just did the curtain call too
Speaker 1: and put out some other ship. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: well listen, man up, Sarre. I appreciate you pulling up
Speaker 1: brons having man. I look forward to not subscribing to
Speaker 1: your only fans. Oh man, I got two customers so
Speaker 1: far and the album people can go online and stream it.
Speaker 1: Please go online and get it right now. Just drop
Speaker 1: the video call she works the night shift. Was that
Speaker 1: the one you were just playing? Yeah? Yeah, some pretty
Speaker 1: wild ship in there? Yeah, man, you know what's the
Speaker 1: what's the wildest freaky tale in that song that you
Speaker 1: can share with us here? Oh? I had a girl
Speaker 1: come out here from Russia. She told me to make
Speaker 1: sure that I'm not ten of my black friends. She
Speaker 1: wanted to get listen to the song. Well, guess what
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember. You know what, he also doesn't remember
Speaker 1: his lyrics. The girl from Russia wanted you to run
Speaker 1: a train on her with ten of her black friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had to oblige. Was there going to be a
Speaker 1: was there a guy there watching like? Was there a
Speaker 1: cuck situation going on? Oh man? Just say this man
Speaker 1: one of my homies tried to get in, but he's
Speaker 1: Asian and white and he was turned down. That's interesting,
Speaker 1: was he there? This guy right here, this guy is
Speaker 1: fucking rocks. I want to party in Detroit with him? Man,
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Speaker 1: up bro. All right, man, appreciate you. Fuck it. Good
Speaker 1: ship