Speaker 1: Why does sports bring people together like nothing else.
Speaker 2: Because we all root for one common gold.
Speaker 3: That's like one of the only times in life with
Speaker 3: if you're black and white, your purple, brown, pink, pink.
Speaker 1: Which so religion. We throw orientation, We throw all that
Speaker 1: out the window.
Speaker 3: From one common Gold, a super bowl that bring everybody right.
Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag price,
Speaker 4: one slice got the brother gys.
Speaker 3: Swap all my life.
Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, and
Speaker 4: grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag price, one slice
Speaker 4: got the brother geys swat all my life.
Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life.
Speaker 5: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shape.
Speaker 3: Shay.
Speaker 5: I am your host, Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1: I'm also the propriud of Club Shape Shay stopping by
Speaker 1: for conversation on the drink today.
Speaker 3: Is a larger than life personality.
Speaker 1: He's made a name for himself as a rapper in
Speaker 1: now media personality hip hop's most captivating talents and respected
Speaker 1: artist mc songwriter, hosts, actors, social media influencer, philanthropists.
Speaker 5: He's a Luka.
Speaker 1: He's a shrewd businessman, a culture like on an unmatched
Speaker 1: force in his community. A prominent figure in the world
Speaker 1: of hip hop, sports and entertainment. He put song for
Speaker 1: his city with passion, A pioneer in the Philadelphia rap culture,
Speaker 1: a Philly legend, a diehard Eagles fan, a loving father
Speaker 1: and a husband from the city of brotherly love. He
Speaker 1: goes by the name sometimes of Damion Gillard, Shake, Gil
Speaker 1: Just ste Alexander Man new Gettinobi Shake, Gil O'Neill, Michael
Speaker 1: Gil Jordan.
Speaker 3: Here, your ladies and gentleman, Philly's own Gilly the kid.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what character whoever wrote that, whoever put
Speaker 3: that shit together, that's a m Gilly.
Speaker 1: Yes, brother, thank you for Jordan's guys, Bill May, Lady
Speaker 1: JOm he been on one for the Tibby step there.
Speaker 1: This told you today, bro, from what you've been able
Speaker 1: to accomplish with million dollars, with the game, with your boy,
Speaker 1: what with your cousin wallow Man, Thank you giving us hope,
Speaker 1: giving us inspiration.
Speaker 5: Because I saw you guys do it. I said, hey,
Speaker 5: I can do.
Speaker 3: It too, and you're doing it. Did it, done it,
Speaker 3: still doing it.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. We're gonna leave you about that because you
Speaker 5: don't want to turn off you don't want to turn
Speaker 5: appreciate that. Bro, that's smooth.
Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, Gilly, I'm gonna be pra a warning. We are
Speaker 1: recording this before the game. Yes, Saturday. The game is Sunday.
Speaker 1: This is going to air Wednesday.
Speaker 3: So boy, I sure hope y'all do that thing because
Speaker 3: if you don't, they're gonna tear you up in the comments. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know you're saying this. You know, you know
Speaker 3: if my sister had a pin that she would have
Speaker 3: been my brother. Un Fortunately she was my sister.
Speaker 1: All right, So check this out. The Eagles are undefeated.
Speaker 1: When you run out of the tunnel with the team,
Speaker 1: yes they are. Are you running out on? Say, I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten that call.
Speaker 5: You ain't got that call yet.
Speaker 1: I ain't get that call when you first ran out
Speaker 1: the tunnel and you're bringing the team out and seventy
Speaker 1: thousand fans and you feel that rush. How did it
Speaker 1: come about? How did that happen? And what is that
Speaker 1: rush like when you run out there with that team
Speaker 1: with the.
Speaker 3: Team, well, you know like a lot of people just
Speaker 3: really getting on. But to me, but if you last
Speaker 3: year when we was in the playoffs. We wasn't playing
Speaker 3: that good. I got the call from the team to
Speaker 3: come down to the locker room last year. It is
Speaker 3: all over the internet where I went down last year
Speaker 3: and talked to the team before the playoffs. So I
Speaker 3: have a relationship with the Eagles with you know, with
Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni best coach in the league, with Jeffrey Lorie.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jeffrey's son, the whole family, the best
Speaker 3: owner in the league. Shout out to Howyrt Roseman, the
Speaker 3: best GM in the league. And Big Dom, right, Big
Speaker 3: Doms my guy. So when I was doing what I
Speaker 3: was doing all year with my Chilly on sports live
Speaker 3: stream and they just kept winning and every week they
Speaker 3: had to see me dance, Big Dom figured who else
Speaker 3: is better to bring them out the tunnel than Gilly?
Speaker 3: What does that mean? You're born, you're raised in Philly.
Speaker 1: What does that mean for a Philly kid to bring
Speaker 1: the hometown team out of the tunnel and have all
Speaker 1: those fans cheering.
Speaker 3: I mean it means everything to me because you know,
Speaker 3: since I can remember in my life, I only missed
Speaker 3: three Eagle games. Really yeah, one of them was a
Speaker 3: blackout game. We ain't selling enough tickets. In two of
Speaker 3: the games, I was in the Dominican Republic with Vin
Speaker 3: Grahams filming a movie. So to me, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: we come from a poor city man. When the Eagles win,
Speaker 3: the morale in the city is better. It is when
Speaker 3: the Eagles lose, the morale is down. You think about
Speaker 3: all your problems. There's no escape. The Eagles is an escape,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? When I ran out the
Speaker 3: tunnel with him, and uh, the funniest shi it is,
Speaker 3: I run out the tunnel and uh, I dropped down
Speaker 3: to the ground. I started doing the Brian talk. You
Speaker 3: the wolf ring, y'all hit the wolf ring, get up,
Speaker 3: let's go. I run to the front of the line
Speaker 3: there about to announced that the players now, and I'm with,
Speaker 3: you know some of the players that run out first.
Speaker 3: And I turn around. I look at Kenny Gainwell and
Speaker 3: the tears come down.
Speaker 2: My face and I say, I love this ship.
Speaker 3: And Kenny looked at me like, you know you not playing?
Speaker 3: Can you not playing with the you do? Then they
Speaker 3: announced the players about them, all the players running out
Speaker 3: of Then we run over to the sideline and the
Speaker 3: National Anthemist playing and that shit's bawling down my face
Speaker 3: to the point they got to the end of the
Speaker 3: song because I just had to have a conversation with myself.
Speaker 3: I said, what the are you doing? Get it together?
Speaker 1: You not fork got caught up in there about You're
Speaker 1: like you about to go to in a sweet.
Speaker 3: You not tackling nobody, You're not getting no receptions, Chill out,
Speaker 3: And I just had to wipe my face and be like,
Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm just talking to myself. I'm like, you're.
Speaker 5: Tripping all season long for the game.
Speaker 1: You play cameos, candy before the games, after the game,
Speaker 1: blow the Whistle too Short?
Speaker 3: How did you?
Speaker 1: I mean, were obviously were you a cameo fan or
Speaker 1: too short fan? How do you come up with the
Speaker 1: songs that you started wearing? Candy by cameo blow the
Speaker 1: Whistle too Short?
Speaker 3: At the end, Well, blow the Whistle has always been
Speaker 3: one of my favorites. That's your anthem, Yes, that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's just a song. That's a great vibe. And I
Speaker 3: picked just like Candy because I was letting the other
Speaker 3: teams know, y'all sweet, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 3: whoever we playing that week, the Jaints just like can day,
Speaker 3: oh see, and your wow, y'all sweet were gonna whoop
Speaker 3: your ass this week, okay, And that's how that started off.
Speaker 3: So you know tomorrow will be first thing in the morning,
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs just like can day. We got something
Speaker 3: for y'all.
Speaker 5: But you dancing, you dance an electric slide to ya yall?
Speaker 1: So I mean, what's going on when you like you're
Speaker 1: doing this and you're getting in your you get because
Speaker 1: it seems like that's your routine. Like players at players athletes,
Speaker 1: we have a routine and that we go through and
Speaker 1: we feel that if we go through this routine, everything's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Do you feel like if you don't
Speaker 1: do that routine everything to the tea, something might go.
Speaker 3: Wrong with you? Right the hell? Yeah? Even my broom
Speaker 3: got that flew out. Bring that broom, don't bring no
Speaker 3: other brooms.
Speaker 5: So you just couldn't buy a room down here.
Speaker 3: I can't. Why would we do that when we undefeated?
Speaker 3: With him walking out with that broom, You better bring
Speaker 3: that dirty little broom you got from the house that's
Speaker 3: coming to the super Bowl with us.
Speaker 5: We hit your slid. Let me see, let me see
Speaker 5: the slide.
Speaker 3: What you got wait you know first seas from first
Speaker 3: is from here? Right, yeah, you can you you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? And then you break it down and
Speaker 3: then it is this, it's from here. This is a
Speaker 3: this is an old school dance called the e Maddick
Speaker 3: in Philly. Right, you just used to see Kevin Harten. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: bring it together one two three, one two one two three,
Speaker 3: then your crawls and then your crawls and get us
Speaker 3: right to the connum of greg.
Speaker 1: So what if you saw let me, let's say, for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, Yes, A j Brown scores a
Speaker 1: touchdown and he hits that.
Speaker 3: He's an all time legend. He's going down in an
Speaker 3: all time the Hall of Fame of Legends.
Speaker 1: I saw where you say any racism in Philly when
Speaker 1: you're a neighbor Jake Broomeman Swain is in your videos.
Speaker 5: So how long have you known Jake?
Speaker 3: Well, we moved into the neighborhood, right. Oh, that's our
Speaker 3: studio house. Okay, that's like our office where we work
Speaker 3: out as a content house. So when we first moved in,
Speaker 3: you know, Jake used to sit on the porch, older guy,
Speaker 3: so you know it would just be like, you know,
Speaker 3: just keep it moving, and.
Speaker 5: So he's like the mayor and do the right thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just sit there. Okay, Okay, So you know
Speaker 3: I'm pulling up in different car. I might be in
Speaker 3: my nineteen forty one one day, I might be in
Speaker 3: my seventy four Chevy. I might be in my eighty
Speaker 3: nine Chevy. I might be in a Beamer. I might
Speaker 3: be in a BMW truck. Wilos in a Lamborghini. He's
Speaker 3: in a Porsche, He's in his Maybag, he in his
Speaker 3: sixty three bands, he and his Thenali truck. In the
Speaker 3: course of a month, he's seen us pull up in
Speaker 3: like twelve different cars. So one day and then we
Speaker 3: get packages delivered every day from different sponsors. So one
Speaker 3: day I'm sitting there and I'm saying, I said to myself,
Speaker 3: I say, cuz if I was a neighbor on this,
Speaker 3: I would think we were selling drugs. Yeah, so I said,
Speaker 3: let me go introduce myself to because when we pull up,
Speaker 3: we see them. They out there like fox going on.
Speaker 3: He come here every day in different cars and.
Speaker 5: Just chill and don't say anything.
Speaker 3: Right, So I want to introduce myself. No, this is
Speaker 3: who I am. And I said, because I probably figured
Speaker 3: you guys probably thought we were selling drugs, and Jake said,
Speaker 3: we definitely thought you guys were. So when Jake and
Speaker 3: seventy five said that, oh you my guy, you're my
Speaker 3: guy because you kept it really you didn't try to
Speaker 3: sugar coat you. Let us know the whole block. But
Speaker 3: what you guys were selling drugs, we couldn't believe the
Speaker 3: cars you were pulling up in. So now he knows
Speaker 3: who we are. The block is comfortable. I'm gifting the
Speaker 3: block gifts on holidays. I don't celebrate the holidays. And
Speaker 3: then Jake just so happened to walk over while I
Speaker 3: was dancing one day.
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Speaker 2: Because we all rooting for one common goal.
Speaker 3: That's the That's like one of the only times in
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Speaker 5: Why is sports? You know?
Speaker 1: Because I hear I've never lived in Philly anything. But
Speaker 1: I hear everybody says Philly fans, they're so passionate about
Speaker 1: the Eagles, about the about the Phillies, about the seventy
Speaker 1: six was about there? What makes the Philly fan base
Speaker 1: so ravenous about their teams?
Speaker 3: This to be all the way honest with you, we
Speaker 3: just a rude city, be a bunch of it was
Speaker 3: the mob, a bunch of Jurkos idiots, me and we
Speaker 3: and we really take pride in being idiots, like we
Speaker 3: don't give a You come to Philly and you lose,
Speaker 3: walking out that stadium is going to be the one
Speaker 3: of the roughest rides you had if you got on
Speaker 3: another team's jersey.
Speaker 1: Wow, may y'all already won the game with a little
Speaker 1: stall of out. Man, Let them go about their business.
Speaker 3: Our mentality is you thought you were going to win? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why they can't.
Speaker 1: That's what makes us idiots explain Philly to people that's
Speaker 1: never been to Philly. But you know it's it's you, guys,
Speaker 1: booz sant, who boot the man bringing presence? Who booz pant?
Speaker 3: He didn't bring the right present? He was in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, y'all? Boot Ben Simmons shit, can y'all do
Speaker 3: that to be Ben because he didn't bring the right presence.
Speaker 3: He was impressive looking at them stat sheets, right, eight
Speaker 3: rebounds and seven points.
Speaker 1: That's bad, that's horrible. How the Eagles brought the city
Speaker 1: together this year.
Speaker 3: I mean it's brought the whole city together, the whole area.
Speaker 3: And I just don't want to say Philly because Delaware.
Speaker 3: A lot of Delaware's Eagle fans, a lot of South
Speaker 3: Jersey is Eagle fans. So it was brought to trial
Speaker 3: state area together. I mean, we've just been we've just
Speaker 3: been kicking ass man.
Speaker 5: Have you thought about what happens if you guys don't win?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Did you go to the.
Speaker 3: Last Super Bowl when they played? When they play Kansas
Speaker 3: City was right there. And let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: When you ever was playing in the Super Bowl, did
Speaker 3: you think about not winning?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 3: Did you think about.
Speaker 5: But I could impact the game?
Speaker 3: You can't harready impact. So if you you got to understand,
Speaker 3: I don't run them out of the out of the
Speaker 3: locker room during the Super Bowl and we lose, they
Speaker 3: gonna bad, They're gonna see it's because Kelly didn't run
Speaker 3: them out of the locker room because the one thing
Speaker 3: Nick said to me, Nick say, I need the greatest
Speaker 3: coach in the league right now.
Speaker 2: He said, you're three, and now.
Speaker 3: He understands or the superstiti my energy is different. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm used to routine. So every time they brought
Speaker 3: me in their locker room, it's the same thing. The
Speaker 3: coach come up first, love you coach, he walk out,
Speaker 3: Then the players come up, and then I lose my mind.
Speaker 3: Were playing for the be playing for the name on
Speaker 3: the front of that jersey, in the back of that jersey,
Speaker 3: and then I call out certain players. Your family watching
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do. You know, your girlfriend watching, man,
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do. Your mother's watching what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Good players has made during the regular season, Legends is
Speaker 3: made in the playoffs. Who gonna be legendary to day?
Speaker 3: We're playing for the name that's on the front of
Speaker 3: that jersey, in the back of that jersey. But who
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make the name on the back of that
Speaker 3: jersey somebody today. That's what I need to know. Be
Speaker 3: playing Philadelphia football today. That's smart, tough, fast and physical.
Speaker 3: Everybody to the ball. By the time we leave out
Speaker 3: their locker room. They ready, they run through the walk,
Speaker 3: They're ready. You gotta understand. I walked in the locker
Speaker 3: room and jail and Cardiff was like this at his
Speaker 3: locker room. He was one of the last people out
Speaker 3: of the locker room, and Connor Barroom walked me in
Speaker 3: and he didn't even know who was talking to him,
Speaker 3: and I said, it's not a planet Earth that can
Speaker 3: block you. He turned around and seeing it was messed out.
Speaker 2: I don't give up.
Speaker 3: If they brought an alien down from Morris Center and Pluto,
Speaker 3: he can't block you. You understand what I'm saying. He said,
Speaker 3: I got you og. The minute we walked out their
Speaker 3: locker room. Conder Barber said, you just got the team
Speaker 3: of sack today. And that kid had a few sacks.
Speaker 3: So the motivation is different.
Speaker 1: You get the call, I don't know who call you,
Speaker 1: whether it's Big Dog, I'm I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: Nick sil Yanni And they said, Gilly, you're gonna run
Speaker 1: them out today the Super Bowl, one hundred million people watching,
Speaker 1: everybody in Philly's watching.
Speaker 5: What would that? What would that?
Speaker 1: It's one thing to run them out in the regular
Speaker 1: season or the postseason. It's something entirely different because they
Speaker 1: chronicle these games super Bowl fifty nine, the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Gilly wallall call you the mascot.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know that's cool.
Speaker 1: What would that moment mean to the Philly kid that
Speaker 1: grew up and watched all these Eagles games and he's
Speaker 1: running the team out in Super Bowl fifty nine onto
Speaker 1: the field to do battle.
Speaker 3: The biggest thing would have been getting me there to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl because the minute I get that call
Speaker 3: might pass the out.
Speaker 1: Boom clear, Hello, this is the outfit that you normally
Speaker 1: wear when you run out there?
Speaker 3: Absolutely what you how you going? How you wearing enough? No,
Speaker 3: this is a regular VIC jersey right here?
Speaker 5: Is that an authentic big jersey? Or that's the one
Speaker 5: that is.
Speaker 3: Authentic, the one I got, says Mike Gilvick on it.
Speaker 3: It's a little different. It's a little different. Now you
Speaker 3: got Michael VICKI you got Mike Gilvick, Right, it's a
Speaker 3: little different.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you said, I saw where uh gave Wallow
Speaker 1: Wallo Say, look, man, I ain't really no fan.
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of the team that's winning. So if
Speaker 5: you win it, I'm your boy. You lose it. I
Speaker 5: ain't got no type of if you start.
Speaker 1: If I root for you and you start to lose,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find you another team. Squa said, man, I
Speaker 1: come on, wallow bag, you bad wagon hoppit right?
Speaker 3: And you know what's so crazy? This Saquon first year
Speaker 3: here and he knew that he've been here for eleven games.
Speaker 3: Shrugg you like the Eagles. Now. He was so thrown
Speaker 3: off that Sequon city. He was like, how you know that? Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like you've been talking. Togain had to let him know.
Speaker 1: Man, man, you're sixers man, Yes, Gilly, I mean y'all
Speaker 1: brought in Maxie is still playing out of his mind.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jordan Beiid has been nicked.
Speaker 1: I mean he played in the Olympics and then the
Speaker 1: knee messed up again and so he missed the time
Speaker 1: y'all signed pg and that hadn't worked out like you
Speaker 1: guys thought it would.
Speaker 3: What's going on with your seventy sixers? Bro? What I
Speaker 3: mean sugar coat? Nah?
Speaker 5: We don't sugar coat nothing here.
Speaker 1: This ain't no ben ye Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like he made some wrong decisions. One with
Speaker 3: signing PG row decision. I mean until you proved me wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, would you would you prefer to keep Tobias? No,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, Tobias was under
Speaker 3: so much scrutiny it was gonna be hard for him
Speaker 3: to play for the Sixers anyway, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 3: but what PG has come and brought to the t
Speaker 3: so far, it don't look like we got our money's.
Speaker 2: Worth, you know what I mean. Yes, it's like.
Speaker 3: Looking like you're having trouble beating people off the dribble.
Speaker 3: Everybody's staying in front of you. You're taking a bunch
Speaker 3: of contested shots. Everything is contested. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I know he's coming off of injury too, right,
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping hopefully that he can get back to,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, where he was. But as
Speaker 3: of right now, you know, it don't look good. And
Speaker 3: as of right now for Joe Elmb it don't look
Speaker 3: good as well. Because you played the whole summer with
Speaker 3: the USA team and.
Speaker 5: You was nick going into the playoffs last year. Why
Speaker 5: would you do.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear about you missing no practices. I didn't
Speaker 3: hear about you missing nothing that had to do with
Speaker 3: the USA team. So don't tell me you're gonna get out.
Speaker 3: Then you're gonna tap dance for the USA team and
Speaker 3: gold medal. But when it comes to the Philadelphia seventy
Speaker 3: six is you played four hundred and twenty one games
Speaker 3: and get missed four hundred and four. Think about that?
Speaker 3: So you feel in some type of way about it. See,
Speaker 3: I'm about a person. I'm about being reliable. The one
Speaker 3: thing you can't say. You can say you're a great player.
Speaker 3: You can say when you're on the court, you're unstoppable,
Speaker 3: you can say it MVP worthy every year. But the
Speaker 3: one thing you can't say is you reliable.
Speaker 5: You still trust the process?
Speaker 3: I've been Stop trusting the process, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I think we missed. At a certain point, you gotta
Speaker 3: say we might need to go with a different process. Wow,
Speaker 3: when you got three MAX players that's supposed to be
Speaker 3: superstars and only one of them performing, and we got
Speaker 3: like were like twelfth in the East Man, how can.
Speaker 2: I trust the process?
Speaker 1: We saw Luca get traded? Yes, would you be okay?
Speaker 1: How would you feel that the seventy six ers move
Speaker 1: Joel and b.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, I think I'm speaking for
Speaker 3: every sixer fans. We wouldn't have no we couldn't feel
Speaker 3: no type of way because, like I said, when you
Speaker 3: go at games played versus games not played, its damn
Speaker 3: near equal. So we get to see you on the
Speaker 3: court just as much as we get to see you
Speaker 3: off the court. There's no difference. So at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's like it's to the point where
Speaker 3: you we never know if you gonna play or not.
Speaker 3: Who want a player like that. I'm the biggest Joel
Speaker 3: and B fan ever. I go on all these podcasts
Speaker 3: and I let everybody know nobody could be nobody. He
Speaker 3: was averaging thirty five points last year. But then the
Speaker 3: games that's played.
Speaker 1: So do you believe the opportunity to pass you back
Speaker 1: because you had a couple of years that Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: was there and he was an All Star. Ben was
Speaker 1: playing at an All Star well, he was an All
Speaker 1: Star All India defensive player. Joel Embiid, I mean it's
Speaker 1: always been he's kind of nicked at the most inopportunity
Speaker 1: at the wrong time, and.
Speaker 5: So he's kind of limping into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that you guys have missed that opportunity
Speaker 1: you had the Hawks down three to one and you
Speaker 1: let them come all the way back. Gilly, do you
Speaker 1: feel your opportunity to pass you by now?
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like with this team right now,
Speaker 3: our opportunity is whether Joel Embiid is healthy or whether
Speaker 3: he's not healthy.
Speaker 2: That's what it all comes down to.
Speaker 3: If we get a Joel Embiid that's healthy, we can
Speaker 3: beat anybody. But the problem is he's never healthy. Yes,
Speaker 3: and you don't get healthier as you get older, right, needs,
Speaker 3: get a little tender feet, get tender, help me get
Speaker 3: all the fucked up.
Speaker 1: You caught a lot of flat because you had Lebron
Speaker 1: ranked over the Philly kids.
Speaker 3: Rest is soul, Kobe? Yes, you still feel Lebron is
Speaker 3: a better player than Kobe. Yes, I feel like if
Speaker 3: Lebron James is the best player we ever seen in
Speaker 3: the world, if we never seen Michael Jordan play, So you.
Speaker 1: Got Jordan ranked over Lebron, that's the only player that
Speaker 1: you've got over Lebron.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, let me just ask you this question. Right,
Speaker 3: If me and you both came in the league at
Speaker 3: eighteen and I averaged twenty at eighteen, and you averaged
Speaker 3: six point seven and I averaged more assist than you,
Speaker 3: more rebounds than you. I'm the fastest player of the
Speaker 3: ten thy fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty thirty five, the
Speaker 3: fastest player. We came in the league at the same time.
Speaker 3: How could you be better than me? We all we
Speaker 3: both got the chips. Matter of fact, you wasn't even
Speaker 3: the best player on your team at one time. I
Speaker 3: never walked into a locker room and wasn't the best
Speaker 3: player on my team at I got drafted number one.
Speaker 3: I went to a team that won thirteen games. Do
Speaker 3: you think that these grown ass men in this locker
Speaker 3: room thought this eighteen year old kid was gonna come
Speaker 3: in there and make a difference. They didn't know, But
Speaker 3: I did, because the next year we won thirty something games.
Speaker 3: So what do we talk Not taking anything away from
Speaker 3: Kobe's greatness, but what are we talking about? This kid
Speaker 3: had the most pressure on him out of anybody in
Speaker 3: their history of the game. Front of Sports illustrated tenth
Speaker 3: grade chosen one. They said, he can play in the
Speaker 3: league right now when the tenth grade everybody's like, what
Speaker 3: he probably could havebe. Bryant backed up Eddie Jones at
Speaker 3: one time Lebron James wouldn't have backed Eddie Jones up
Speaker 3: in eleventh grade. And Eddie is my man, Yes, but
Speaker 3: Lebron James is different. Think about that. Yeah, he came
Speaker 3: into the league as an eighteen year old kid and
Speaker 3: probably was the eighth heaviest person in the league, but
Speaker 3: probably was the fastest person in the league. So it's
Speaker 3: not taking anything away from Kobe. But Kobe used to
Speaker 3: go to an NBA locker room and put a Robin
Speaker 3: uniform on. Shaq was batman. Lebron never showed up and
Speaker 3: put a Robin uniform on in any locker room. Ever.
Speaker 3: That's the difference.
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Speaker 1: rushmore Philly sports guys, So you got Iverson Chamberlain, Phras
Speaker 1: and Smant, Julia Serving, you know them? Who is your
Speaker 1: form guys that you're going to put on my brushmore?
Speaker 3: You definitely gotta go Bubba Chuck. Hey, I you gotta
Speaker 3: go Wilt Chamberlain. You have to go Joe Frazier and
Speaker 3: you would have to probably go Julia Surfer the doctor.
Speaker 5: Yes, you went all basketball Joe Joe.
Speaker 3: I mean got Joe Freezier beat Mohammad a leave Man.
Speaker 3: I could put Brian Dawkins in there, but he never won.
Speaker 3: A super Bowl, right, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 3: could put I could throw Jason Kelcey in there because
Speaker 3: he's a But can I put Jason Kelsey over Doctor Jay?
Speaker 5: I know I can't put him over Allen Iverson.
Speaker 3: That's just like he's the all time Philly goat over everything.
Speaker 5: So who's your best Who is your best rapper? NBA
Speaker 5: player all time?
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard better than Shot Shack had Shack's little more records,
Speaker 3: and Shack had his moments too. Can shock and rap?
Speaker 3: He could do a thing.
Speaker 5: That's my guy, but they ain't really got flow like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're going who's the biggest rapper basketball wise,
Speaker 3: then it would have to be Shack without a doubt.
Speaker 5: All right, let me ask you this best rapper Hooper.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Dirk J Cole, Breezy, Quavo, two Chain, game Master,
Speaker 1: p Davies, Cameron, and Mace.
Speaker 3: Mmmm. Now I would probably say Dave's better than Breezy.
Speaker 3: No Breeze, he's good too, but no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no. The person I'm putting number one NL
Speaker 3: chopper really yeah, he can really play. You know, Ali
Speaker 3: Tapa is the only person that I played against in
Speaker 3: a celebrity game where I had twenty seven, he had
Speaker 3: twenty seven. He manchined me bucket for bucket.
Speaker 5: Like you know, master P almost made the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but master P needs a little tender. My og
Speaker 3: hips ain't looking the same, man, I mean it's back up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So one on so one on one, you and Chopper
Speaker 1: who taking it the fifteen we going to fifteenth.
Speaker 2: Will already beat him twice in the Big three.
Speaker 5: So no one on one. We're going one on one.
Speaker 3: We guarding each other. So he got all the work.
Speaker 5: He yell, you ain't got no gilly.
Speaker 3: Everybody know when it comes to the og.
Speaker 5: So we got a port in under this, so we
Speaker 5: got to port it over.
Speaker 3: I don't play no over thirty five, No disrespect my
Speaker 3: game like that. Ain't playing no part cards like I
Speaker 3: would not play you. That's the easy one.
Speaker 5: What at five tiers? So we going five tiers?
Speaker 3: We go together.
Speaker 5: We gotta put a hype limit and a hold.
Speaker 3: On it's footag y'all there me cooking lethal shooter. He's
Speaker 3: six ' four. I don't play no game. He's mainly
Speaker 3: a shooter. He ain'dtort really no one on That's what
Speaker 3: I am I'm a shooter. No, you play, you play,
Speaker 3: I'm a shooter. Heear mean, I'm open.
Speaker 5: But you are a three times Big Big three celebrity MVP.
Speaker 5: You gonna win it a game.
Speaker 3: They brought the professor this year for me.
Speaker 5: Oh, he gave you that work.
Speaker 3: He got there and realized I signed up for some ship.
Speaker 5: Why they don't let you play an nb A celebrity game.
Speaker 3: Because it's an easy MVP for me. They know it.
Speaker 3: It's too easy because and then honestly, I'm not even
Speaker 3: hyped to play in the NBA Celebrity Game because that's
Speaker 3: all politics. You feel me? Yeah, ninety percent of the
Speaker 3: people out there can't play right, So it's like or
Speaker 3: you just got the right you got the right publicist.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's why you You never played basketball in
Speaker 3: your life, why would you be playing in this game?
Speaker 3: So that's about politics, man, And that's an easy MVP
Speaker 3: trophy for me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay with the Negro League.
Speaker 5: You believe you can Beatjamal Crawford in the one on one?
Speaker 3: Yes, the man stop playing alright, I'm just saying, Jamal
Speaker 3: while you're ducking.
Speaker 5: Me, that man is a three. That man is a
Speaker 5: three time things man on the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got six hundred and thirty nine thousand miles
Speaker 3: on them knees.
Speaker 5: They're done. He done, They're done. The man to cook you?
Speaker 3: Why he ain't he he hasn't accepted my challenge. I
Speaker 3: talked to him. He said, me and my son gonna
Speaker 3: get you. All right, Well, let's let's do this. I
Speaker 3: get your signed out the way first, just to let
Speaker 3: you know this, this a grown ass man game. Sit
Speaker 3: down a little JJ, JJ said, your little ass down man,
Speaker 3: But you will Dad. I want, yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I want for.
Speaker 1: Fifty points for different teams. The oldest man that's gonna
Speaker 1: fifty Dad that. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: The one thing, you know, the one thing we don't
Speaker 3: ever operade office. No fullback Thursday. Shit. We ain't not
Speaker 3: parading off, no throwback Thursday. Shit. We don't want to
Speaker 3: know about the bench n eighty nine. What you're doing now,
Speaker 3: I'm deep fried barbecue bacon, young mother fucker's fight down forty.
Speaker 1: I'm taking one on one. I'm taking Breezy over you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I cook Breezy.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, you wanna pull up the footage of
Speaker 3: me at Breezy house you could right, Okay, you cook
Speaker 3: it deep fried barbeque, baked rotestary chicken. Oh no, for Breezy, Breezy.
Speaker 3: Breezy got game. Yeah he can really play. Breezy could
Speaker 3: really play.
Speaker 1: I got one for you because you were talking reckless
Speaker 1: and he said he ain't gonna let him loose on
Speaker 1: you just yet because he got the other things to do.
Speaker 5: Bronnie, Bronnie'll cook you see.
Speaker 3: Come see, let me just tell you something. I leve
Speaker 3: rich Ball get away with that, right because Rich my
Speaker 3: man Rich used to run around and Philly a little bit. Briannie,
Speaker 3: you're too little at no, no, no athletic jump can shoot.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you know where you done got me at.
Speaker 3: That's the reason why we're a big hat man, every
Speaker 3: big thing.
Speaker 5: Every time Briddie scored, you're right, do that right there.
Speaker 3: But what you gotta understand, if me and Jamal Crawford play,
Speaker 3: or me and Briannie played one on one, right, I'm
Speaker 3: forty eight years old. Right, if they beat me fifteen
Speaker 3: or nine, I won you let somebody's grandfather score nine
Speaker 3: times on you.
Speaker 5: Now, I don't think you getting nine on Bridani. I
Speaker 5: think you get like two or two.
Speaker 3: Shit, ain't nobody ever beat me two winks nine?
Speaker 5: You're all gonna do it. Back you down and post
Speaker 5: you up.
Speaker 3: And I ain't wonna about that six four wingspan. The
Speaker 3: Ferston be six four, but he got a six nine
Speaker 3: wings fan five nine with a six four wings fan?
Speaker 5: Well, Rich, bad challenge you to a three part competition
Speaker 5: and you back down.
Speaker 3: I let Rich. You know Rich is one of them
Speaker 3: due to you know, we got some business ventures.
Speaker 5: You don't want to ruin that?
Speaker 3: What fuck that? Rich? My god? You know after we
Speaker 3: close the venture, did I get about to get the symptom? Now? Rich?
Speaker 3: And while we in negotiations and we're gonna be back
Speaker 3: in form, I let Rich get that one.
Speaker 5: If you wouldn't let you play in the Big Three,
Speaker 5: you play the Big.
Speaker 3: Three, playing the Big Three, but you won't let me
Speaker 3: because you gotta understand. Think about this, right, I played
Speaker 3: three Big Three games, right? Every game I hit a
Speaker 3: full pointer and at least three three pointers? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: mary O Thomas played a whole Big Three season. Ain't
Speaker 3: hit a full pointer? Man? Why he catch you straight?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, what's my other man?
Speaker 3: With the podcast The point Guard Jeff t Yeah, play
Speaker 3: the whole Big three season.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna talk about you gonna cook Teed. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna cook my five twenty guys.
Speaker 3: I'm just he running from me. He keep calling me,
Speaker 3: keep talking about what we're gonna do. But anytime I'm
Speaker 3: trying to set up the game, they're not playing. But Tee,
Speaker 3: I'm telling them handle this. You know this going straight
Speaker 3: to Instagram. We're doing this live. We not doing no
Speaker 3: filming where we gotta edit shit. I don't need to
Speaker 3: edit shit. I get five, six, seven buckets in a row.
Speaker 3: Step your ass up, and then you gotta deal with
Speaker 3: the mouth. That's the thing they can deal with.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're gonna try to talk about their game. No,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. That's what I do to step up.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't step up. But see Briani, you ain't
Speaker 1: even be getting that shot out. You see Bridni throwing
Speaker 1: folks stuff out of there.
Speaker 3: I got a jump shot and he did it right there.
Speaker 3: I know how to get them right. Young Kobe d skills.
Speaker 3: Briannie is the Brannie is the truth. He's going to
Speaker 3: develop into a great play. But the things I could
Speaker 3: teach him. It would have celebrated process. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But you did get a basketball scholarships. Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 3: To wallow tell you what I have?
Speaker 5: Nah, Wallowey, tell me what happened. I got you here?
Speaker 5: Tell me I got you.
Speaker 3: Where you said that. What happens? It's like I know
Speaker 3: some details, and well, I was a young, reckless kid
Speaker 3: becaase you didn't like you. Nah, the coach love me.
Speaker 3: Shout out to coach Zeke loved me. And during the summertime,
Speaker 3: I had got into something of an arm robbery type
Speaker 3: of situation. That's something like, so, I'm like, because I
Speaker 3: changed my life, brother, Yeah, okay, I'm trying to make
Speaker 3: it look good. And you up like I got spots
Speaker 3: and ship you know so, and I'm trying to make
Speaker 3: you know. But sponsors in the stand that I changed
Speaker 3: my you dead, we're talking about them there thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yes, and uh rest in
Speaker 3: piece to Alan Bunch. You know what I mean. Was
Speaker 3: a kid that was with me that lost his life
Speaker 3: and I got kicked out of college and uh that's
Speaker 3: when rapping started.
Speaker 1: And uh, if you got that skill though, Gilly, you
Speaker 1: had a skill, you got a scholarship to play basketball.
Speaker 3: How would you get jammed doing an arm rock? No,
Speaker 3: I'm in college.
Speaker 5: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm actually in my sophomore year. Yes, but you got
Speaker 3: to understand you growing up in the ghetto, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: and I didn't. Me and my mom didn't really have
Speaker 3: the best relationship when I was younger. So I moved
Speaker 3: out of my mom house at seventeen years old. I
Speaker 3: never been back. I'm forty eight years old, you feel
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I had an apartment off of campus.
Speaker 3: I would go to I went to school, and the
Speaker 3: assumption was that I had family members that looked out that.
Speaker 3: You know that, because I would leave come home. I
Speaker 3: would give a whilow who was my little cousin. We
Speaker 3: would go do some crazy shit and then I go
Speaker 3: back up to the school. But I had an apartment
Speaker 3: off campus, so I would come home, go back up
Speaker 3: to school. Oh, go play basketball tournaments. My schoolwork never
Speaker 3: was a problem, Go home, go back up to school.
Speaker 3: So when this happened, they had me on the front
Speaker 3: of the daily news. It said Cabrini basketball star lived
Speaker 3: this double life. Damn. And then it talked about how
Speaker 3: I went to college. I was productive, I was on
Speaker 3: a team I started as a freshman. But then it
Speaker 3: also talked about how I got caught up in some
Speaker 3: jacket vote right, so I got kicked out of college.
Speaker 3: And then it was a little rough.
Speaker 5: Do you remember you remember the day that you.
Speaker 3: August twenty second, nineteen ninety six, the day my homie
Speaker 3: got killed during an arm robbery. Rest in peace, Allen Bunch,
Speaker 3: Love you, brother. I always would represent you. Shout out
Speaker 3: to his mother because one of the hardest days of
Speaker 3: my life was going to his funeral. Because he was
Speaker 3: a kid that went to college with me, and he
Speaker 3: was he didn't come from that shit, And I told
Speaker 3: him what it was that I did. He didn't even
Speaker 3: believe the ship. But then as he started hanging with
Speaker 3: me during the summertime, he got involved with me.
Speaker 2: He wanted to go and then you know, one thing
Speaker 2: led to another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so shout out to Alan Bunch. You also ran
Speaker 3: track too, Yeah, so you do you play football? Nah?
Speaker 2: I was good at running, for.
Speaker 5: Mother, that'd have been perfect for football.
Speaker 3: I know, like, yeah, Wallow was never good at running,
Speaker 3: always got cold. Yeah. Yeah, me the cop. You hear
Speaker 3: the cop, sovereigns go off year he's going to jail.
Speaker 3: That nigga Gilly is going to get skinny. God's wait up.
Speaker 3: That's the police heavy waiting up for himself. Anytime you
Speaker 3: hear from him, you have a collect call from you
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 5: How can I have your color?
Speaker 3: And Nick? Never got away man because a juvenile. He
Speaker 3: never got away.
Speaker 5: I saw a shot.
Speaker 3: He's scarny.
Speaker 5: How he's slow and scinny.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker a heavy ankles and the heavy est ankles
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Hear me, he'll be with six. Everybody get
Speaker 3: away by him.
Speaker 1: I got one for you, Yeah, Cat, I think can't
Speaker 1: get you in a forty.
Speaker 3: Time cook the ship out of kitch.
Speaker 1: You're crazy. You saw that man run like four five
Speaker 1: on the fen of forty. You saw it?
Speaker 3: Oh, I ge me and you both flow. That wasn't.
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: Four six five fucker five six wid come on that
Speaker 3: If you don't got that what it's why he ran
Speaker 3: down more nique. That was in a high school. Jyp.
Speaker 3: Cat didn't be warm up. He was in some damn jeans.
Speaker 3: You know, God there with it's God damn wide receivers
Speaker 3: in the draft right now, coming out the draft, they
Speaker 3: running and got there four five you know then what
Speaker 3: it was? Six' one? Cat get you though, No, you
Speaker 3: won't see it's the difference you got You ain't You
Speaker 3: don't run no party if gillet I do. I just
Speaker 3: ran a forty at the Giants facility, did not And
Speaker 3: what did I run? Four nine? What? Man, you ain't
Speaker 3: running no four nine forty eight? What did I run?
Speaker 5: Four nine two at thirty three yards?
Speaker 3: At forty yards?
Speaker 5: Who marked? Who marked the yard?
Speaker 3: They? We was really at the Giants facility, And I
Speaker 3: told them I could run. I was hyping the ship
Speaker 3: up though. I told him I could run a four
Speaker 3: to six, And he was like, well, we got the
Speaker 3: guy right here with the time of me out there
Speaker 3: and I ran a four nine first time, didn't warm
Speaker 3: up in nothing, So imagine if I warmed up, stretched
Speaker 3: and ship you know, four nine fortnine. But I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm going with Cat all right. I mean we
Speaker 3: could do would man for some money, I got Cat
Speaker 3: that that would be the easiest money ever. Gave me many.
Speaker 1: Hey, Cat, Hey, I just need Cat to train for
Speaker 1: like two months.
Speaker 3: Cat ain't got it. Kennon on toward doing shows.
Speaker 5: Man, you and Coach Prime, good friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, you and Wallow, you guys were down there when
Speaker 1: he took off the Jackson State. You guys were really
Speaker 1: the Perston layups. Yes, that showed up on the scene,
Speaker 1: showed lust game. First game, you got Coach Prime.
Speaker 2: I knew Coach Prime for for a minute.
Speaker 3: Man. You know, Coach is a really good guy, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean as far as speaking to him,
Speaker 3: you know, and Coach is somebody that I could call
Speaker 3: and get some games, you know what I mean. And uh,
Speaker 3: when he told us he was going to Jackson State,
Speaker 3: he was like, Coach, we in. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 3: come down there and we're gonna we're gonna put some
Speaker 3: light on this ship and we're gonna really help you,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. The program, the program now
Speaker 3: it was up y'all off, y'all win or not. But
Speaker 3: the light we could bring is you know, it's a
Speaker 3: different type of light. And Coach was really you know,
Speaker 3: your perceptive of that, like, let's do it. And then
Speaker 3: they won, you know, and then they won the second year,
Speaker 3: and then it made it even better because Travis decided
Speaker 3: to go. So now you got a big name coming Shdorf.
Speaker 3: He could have want the Alabama could have won here.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna go play for my dad. So
Speaker 3: now you got some big names that's coming. That's also
Speaker 3: drawing some attention. You got us and you got coach Brown.
Speaker 1: There's a situation. You guys are there. Guy scores a touchdown.
Speaker 1: You're running down the sideline with him. He gets in
Speaker 1: the end zone, he hands you the ball. You in
Speaker 1: the end zone, you spike it. What the are you thinking?
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 5: But you're like, you ain't got no head of the
Speaker 5: should up.
Speaker 3: But listen, but if you look at the video, they say, Killy,
Speaker 3: you just gotta stand behind the white. Yeah, if you
Speaker 3: look at that video, Coach Prime said it. He said,
Speaker 3: Gilly's behind the white. I ran the whole sideline, go Nesh,
Speaker 3: let's go, because you know, I know these kids him
Speaker 3: in the locker room, I'm dancing with him. I'm hyping
Speaker 3: him up. Before the game. I ran the whole sideline
Speaker 3: with him, but I was behind the white. I got
Speaker 3: to the end zone, he threw me the ball. I
Speaker 3: was like, now, when Tom Brady gave his offensive line
Speaker 3: in the ball. Tom Brady at the game, they at
Speaker 3: the game Gilly for a minute. I was in the game,
Speaker 3: and Coach Prime said, in Gilly's defense, why would you
Speaker 3: throw him? Like, what was he supposed to do? He
Speaker 3: running down, he's taping you up, and did you give
Speaker 3: him the ball penalty on the bench. I'm like, that's me.
Speaker 5: The only thing that made it worse. If you threw
Speaker 5: the ball in the stands.
Speaker 3: Why why they would have made it?
Speaker 1: Man, you can't throw that. Ain't an NFL game. You
Speaker 1: have seen somebody kind of throw the ball at the
Speaker 1: same Yeah, I did not have it. I have it exactly.
Speaker 3: See. I don't even know all the rules, you know what.
Speaker 3: I was so into the game that they threw a penalty.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know the flag was on me or nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm walking up the sideline, I'm charging your widow's head
Speaker 3: and there was nothing about sports. He was like, cuz,
Speaker 3: I don't think you're supposed to do that shit, And
Speaker 3: then did all common sense hit me. I was like,
Speaker 3: personal file. I was like, that was the first time.
Speaker 3: The first game I never went in the locker room
Speaker 3: doing halftime. I was like, I'm staying on the field
Speaker 3: with the cheerleaders and ship. I ain't going to the locker.
Speaker 3: Where would you want to see your door go?
Speaker 5: What thing?
Speaker 2: I would want to see your door go to the Titans,
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 3: Overall, number one overall no noise Titans, Lacey, you don't
Speaker 3: have none of the noise. But I also believe that
Speaker 3: wherever it's your door goes, he's good. Because you got
Speaker 3: to understand. If I'm a GM and I'm drafting the quarterback,
Speaker 3: I gotta say to myself, this kid's been through a
Speaker 3: lot more than every other kid in the draft because
Speaker 3: he always had to live up to be in Dion
Speaker 3: Sand the sun, so he always had the spotlight on
Speaker 3: him and all he did was produce. When he went
Speaker 3: to Jackson State, they said he was at a black college.
Speaker 3: Then he went to the worst FBS school in college football,
Speaker 3: which was Colorado. At the time, there was the worst
Speaker 3: FBS school in football Division one football, And two years
Speaker 3: later they're ranked in the top twenty five. So that
Speaker 3: shows you that he won in high school four state championships.
Speaker 3: He went to college, they said, oh, he's at a
Speaker 3: black school. He couldn't do that if he was here.
Speaker 3: Then he went to a school that wasn't that good
Speaker 3: and took them to greatness took them to something to
Speaker 3: whereas though now it's an attraction that you actually want
Speaker 3: to go to Colorado because they got Julian Newman now.
Speaker 3: And that's a that's a product of Coach Prime. Yep,
Speaker 3: his coaches, Doors Sanders, Travis Hunter, and the way that
Speaker 3: Coach Prime treats his players.
Speaker 1: You got an opportunity to see Trat when he went
Speaker 1: to Jackson State. He followed time to see you an
Speaker 1: opportunity to see him up close and to watch what
Speaker 1: he turned himself into. We knew he had the potential,
Speaker 1: but to see last year that Heisman and you got
Speaker 1: you went to a lot of games.
Speaker 3: What is it like?
Speaker 1: Explain to people that had never that's never seen Trap
Speaker 1: play in person?
Speaker 3: What is it like?
Speaker 2: First of all, it's like.
Speaker 3: It's kind of strange because Travis outside off the football
Speaker 3: field is just the nicest kid. He what's up man? Hey?
Speaker 3: You know, but then when he stepped on the field,
Speaker 3: it's like a light. It's just like a switch go
Speaker 3: on and he's a total different person. Don't throw that
Speaker 3: shit over here?
Speaker 5: And you're like, who there?
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Like that's the same kid? Like because
Speaker 3: he's so nice and you don't even think I wouldn't
Speaker 3: even think that he even like even had that like
Speaker 3: mentality to talk. But when he step on that field,
Speaker 3: it's like it's just like a total different dog. So
Speaker 3: and you you really be like, Okay, he really takes
Speaker 3: this shit serious because he's two different people. When he's
Speaker 3: off the field, he's calm, he's laid back, he's the
Speaker 3: nicest he and then he stepped on the field and
Speaker 3: it's like, I wish you would try me throw that
Speaker 3: shit over if you want, And it's like he get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been mad for twenty seven years when you
Speaker 1: met your wife.
Speaker 5: How did you know she was the one? Or do
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure that shit out now. Look
Speaker 3: at my daughters in right then, So you see if I.
Speaker 5: Do, I'm not to say I would tell Mama.
Speaker 3: No, you know, you really don't know if somebody is
Speaker 3: the one, because you know, every day is a different challenge.
Speaker 3: But after we got you know, some time, man and
Speaker 3: years in and she was just so different, raised so
Speaker 3: different from how I was raised, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I never sat down at the table and had dinner
Speaker 3: with the family, and.
Speaker 2: They did that every day.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, sat down at the table,
Speaker 3: had dinner, talk to about the day, what she did today,
Speaker 3: And my mom worked two jobs and like I was
Speaker 3: like home, like making beans and hot dogs for my
Speaker 3: little sisters and shit. So it was just totally different,
Speaker 3: and she brought a whole different perspective on life to me.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I was a kid coming
Speaker 3: up straight out the street carrying guns. She's like, you
Speaker 3: gotta take a gun to my mom house. I don't
Speaker 3: go anywhere without my guns.
Speaker 2: I'd rather be caught with it than without it.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be judged by six and judged by twelve
Speaker 3: than carried by six. Only ghetto shit the ship. That
Speaker 3: didn't make no sense. Now there you sit back. He
Speaker 3: was like, what was I I'm at the dinner table
Speaker 3: with her parents. Like, how you guys doing gun on
Speaker 3: my hip? Like parents are gonna do something? I should
Speaker 3: hold ghetto analogies. That didn't make any sense. I would
Speaker 3: rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. I
Speaker 3: would rather be a lion for a dating a sheep
Speaker 3: for a thousand years. No, I would rather be a
Speaker 3: sheep for a thousand But the ghetto trains you to
Speaker 3: think some of the most dumbest shit you can ever like.
Speaker 3: And I also say growing to a ninety five percent
Speaker 3: white college was some of the best shit I ever
Speaker 3: did in my life because they took a kid straight
Speaker 3: out the ghetto who the white man was to blame
Speaker 3: for everything. Let's just be for real, white man, Ricky up.
Speaker 3: Ricky ran in the bank with a gun. But growing
Speaker 3: up in the ghetto, it's not that, oh man. They
Speaker 3: just white man gave Ricky thirty raheen twelve years. They
Speaker 3: ain't shit raheen spistol to be the build in broad daylight.
Speaker 3: They robbed them. So me going to an all white college,
Speaker 3: it opened my mind up because I got up there
Speaker 3: and I understood that you got some really good white folks,
Speaker 3: how you guys that ain't shit That was like, what
Speaker 3: is this doing on campus? But you also had some
Speaker 3: white folks that would them up if they said that shit.
Speaker 3: And it just opened my mind up to a different
Speaker 3: perspective of life and even how to operate and be
Speaker 3: yourself around whoever. You feel what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 3: I finally started doing deals and I was able to
Speaker 3: operate around whoever, I was able to be myself around whoever,
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. And because I was in every environment
Speaker 3: and if you never actually put me in that environment,
Speaker 3: never know I would you feel what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: got black friends right now that if I take him
Speaker 3: in an all white room, he told about how you doing. Uh,
Speaker 3: I'm Jamal. I'm like, I thought you was bulleted. I
Speaker 3: didn't even know your name was Jamal. You've been bulleted
Speaker 3: here old now you're here with you just switched up.
Speaker 3: You have switched up on me.
Speaker 1: So to know you have someone, because it hasn't always
Speaker 1: been you haven't always been this gilly say that like
Speaker 1: by the last decade, there's been some trials and tribulations.
Speaker 1: There's been some ups and down. But to know you
Speaker 1: gotta ride or die in your corner.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's everything you gotta understand. She went to
Speaker 3: jail with me. How you had the old leady go
Speaker 3: to jail? I was she Actually she took me to jail.
Speaker 3: She was the one selling the weed. I want to
Speaker 3: tell the story, but yeah, she went to jail with me,
Speaker 3: and we had a thing called the nebula here. Whereas
Speaker 3: though you can't bail out from the first, you gotta
Speaker 3: be locked up from three to ten take from three
Speaker 3: to ten days for your nebula hearing to come through,
Speaker 3: And it just so happened ours came through on the
Speaker 3: tenth day, and she wrote me a letter from one
Speaker 3: jail to the next and said, Babe, don't be over
Speaker 3: there stressing. I'm okay over here, I'm back and these
Speaker 3: bitches off. And I thought that was the funniest ship
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna keeping way way my woman. Look, I'm
Speaker 3: like the over here.
Speaker 7: Yeah they did, somebody got some good jam.
Speaker 3: But she wrote me that letter. I was like, was
Speaker 3: that the moment you knew? No, I hadn't do it
Speaker 3: before that ship. She had to be locked up, And
Speaker 3: right now you're trying to get me in trouble.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know she'd have won. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she wasn't enough to make you stop doing that foolishness.
Speaker 3: Well, she was liking the Louie.
Speaker 8: Bags, ye know what I mean. You like you like
Speaker 8: the lights, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But uh, that was when it changed my life, because
Speaker 3: I said, that's when I really you always had a
Speaker 3: relationship with God. But I said, if I get out
Speaker 3: of this situation, you ain't never ever got to worry
Speaker 3: about me ever. You done being in your way ever again?
Speaker 3: Or the police way ever again.
Speaker 1: What was your first impression when you met her? When
Speaker 1: you fail for the first time. I don't know where
Speaker 1: you met her, when he was in the mall or
Speaker 1: you walking?
Speaker 3: You got understand when I walked up on her right?
Speaker 5: You know what? How you doing? Okay again? Okay, we're
Speaker 5: gonna go back thirty years ago.
Speaker 3: Of our facetiming right now. She'll tell you. I smelled
Speaker 3: her hair. Yeah, you weird. No, that should have get
Speaker 3: your case now. But I said, I was like, I said,
Speaker 3: you got all this long gas, pretty hair. I said,
Speaker 3: you don't need no Paul Mitchell products or nothing. I
Speaker 3: bet you when you run, your ship bounced, don't it.
Speaker 3: She had never heard no ship like that in her life.
Speaker 3: She was like this crazy, Yeah I am. And you
Speaker 3: know the one thing that good girls like crazy. She's
Speaker 3: been a part of my life ever since. You gotta understand.
Speaker 3: I used to have to go pick her up from
Speaker 3: the corner of her block because she didn't want her
Speaker 3: parents to see me. And then I just got it
Speaker 3: to her. I said, listen, nothing is enough. I ain't
Speaker 3: picking you up from the corner. No more, I'm a
Speaker 3: grown ass man. I was like, twenty one grown ass
Speaker 3: man doing that shit. You gotta understand. She told me
Speaker 3: her dad was black, and her mind was Korean bro.
Speaker 3: Looking at my woman, I thought it's gonna be this
Speaker 3: little light skinned, curly head with pretty eyes.
Speaker 5: That darker than you.
Speaker 3: Pulled up and she was like, that's my dad on
Speaker 3: the porch. I was like, the extra crispy, that dark
Speaker 3: motherfucker right, this is your dad. She was like yes.
Speaker 3: I felt so comfortable after that. That was it. I
Speaker 3: was like, he's a nig that's a that's a field nigga.
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, what I met her dad? Her
Speaker 3: uncle was said, I knew my uncle. He was like,
Speaker 3: you want something to drink? They was out there with
Speaker 3: the yeah you want to drink? I said, yeah, I
Speaker 3: take a drink. What you said? I like you. I
Speaker 3: don't trust people that don't drink. I was like, damn.
Speaker 3: That's when I also realized the littles was a bunch
Speaker 3: of alcohol. But whole family loved me. Man, Mom loved me,
Speaker 3: and I love the family and Bill. We've just been
Speaker 3: together for so long. It's my twenty two year old
Speaker 3: daughter sitting right there, twenty five year old son.
Speaker 2: So we've just been together.
Speaker 3: Father. Man, it's a beautiful thing when you know that
Speaker 3: you truly got somebody that, you know what i mean,
Speaker 3: really got your back.
Speaker 5: What if you tried to instill in your daughter about dating.
Speaker 1: She's a dating age now, guys, you find that it's
Speaker 1: different if you ain't have no bread. They see her
Speaker 1: like trying new young lady. Dad got some paper, How
Speaker 1: can we get some of it? What you tell your
Speaker 1: daughter about it made me kill.
Speaker 3: You done, gave you that life up, you know, made
Speaker 3: me kill somebody, made me go to prison. Now I'll
Speaker 3: play it. I'm just tell her you know that, you
Speaker 3: know for the most importantly, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: just makes you always being respectful to yourself, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. She was raised right, so she understands,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. What's the dudes and the don'ts?
Speaker 5: She see you the relationship that you have with the mom.
Speaker 3: Right, so that that's a perfect example of what you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, you me and your mom.
Speaker 3: We have ups and downs, just any relationship. We have arguments.
Speaker 3: We have the arguments is only reminded of the motherfuckers
Speaker 3: how much you love them? Right? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You gotta you got a relationship that's too quiet, something
Speaker 3: at right, you know what I mean. Sometimes you gotta
Speaker 3: argue just to get the fly your set. You gotta
Speaker 3: argue just to make up. Hey close years.
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart's from phil You got a relationship with Kate Hart.
Speaker 1: Y'all be joking that guy. I can imagine what tomorrow
Speaker 1: is going to be like.
Speaker 3: Yes, if y'all have when we win, when the Eagles win,
Speaker 3: when we win, you and k Hart gonna be all
Speaker 3: one on Oh what me? Kevin Hart, Meek Mills, Stephen Fowen,
Speaker 3: four time champion two week division. He's over there in
Speaker 3: the house at Club Shasha. So man, whole Philly gonna
Speaker 3: turn up. Man, I'll tell you one thing. When we win,
Speaker 3: they think I was dancing before, Shit called me DM
Speaker 3: goddamn dancing machine.
Speaker 5: What what is ka? Because you see yourself, you see
Speaker 5: Gaile and Meek.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about making a little bit in his
Speaker 1: reform and what he's trying to do to reform a
Speaker 1: prison reform and and guy's in probation.
Speaker 5: Talked to Wallow what is what is Kay Hart?
Speaker 1: To see his story, to see where he came from Philly,
Speaker 1: just like you a Philly kid.
Speaker 3: No, you gotta understand me and Kevin Hart from the
Speaker 3: same neighborhood. Really just Kevin Hart used to live above
Speaker 3: a guy that was in my rap group ad Lava
Speaker 3: Major Figures, So he lived on the bottom floor and
Speaker 3: keV lived above them. Wow, like Kevin is from me,
Speaker 3: from the same neighborhood. So to see him make it
Speaker 3: out and I make it out, and meet make it
Speaker 3: out and Freeway make it out. And man coming from Philly, Man,
Speaker 3: that shit is rough. You gotta understand. I got five
Speaker 3: main homies, all of us been shot. Think about that.
Speaker 3: It's like a surprise when you haven't been shot in Philly.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you haven't been shot, you lucky man.
Speaker 3: So when you come up in a rough environment like that,
Speaker 3: two years ago we had damn near seven hundred murders,
Speaker 3: think about that. Wow, that's two dying a day during
Speaker 3: gun violence. Imagine how many people is getting shot because
Speaker 3: most people that get shot don't die. Imagine how many
Speaker 3: people is getting shot in Philadelphia. So when you able
Speaker 3: to come about there in the type of environment and
Speaker 3: make something out of yourself when the whole everything is
Speaker 3: against you to fail. I gotta be proud of keV
Speaker 3: I gotta be proud of me. I gotta be proud
Speaker 3: of certain individuals because it's like pro you special. You're
Speaker 3: one of the ones God wrapped his arms around me.
Speaker 3: You know how many people in Philadelphia will cut their
Speaker 3: finger off to be in Kevin Hart position, to be
Speaker 3: in my position, to be in Wallow position, Meet Midle position,
Speaker 3: Freeway position, and a few others. Jill Scott Eve, you know,
Speaker 3: cool boy.
Speaker 2: So when you come about those gutters, man is rough man.
Speaker 3: If you can make anything out of yourself, you always
Speaker 3: got to applaud that.
Speaker 1: Shit you mentioned Meet and you watch you see Meet
Speaker 1: with freestyle in the Philly streets. And now he's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest rappers in the game. And he's trying
Speaker 1: to do a lot with his life. Learned a lot,
Speaker 1: been through a lot. You see he's trying to do
Speaker 1: with prison reform and probation and parole. What's it been like,
Speaker 1: like you said, to see guys that come from the
Speaker 1: environment in which I came from.
Speaker 5: And I know what it's like because I lived in
Speaker 5: that jungle.
Speaker 1: I lived that environment and to make it out and
Speaker 1: to make something. What's it like to see people that
Speaker 1: grew up in a very similar situation as Gilly and
Speaker 1: to be where they are now.
Speaker 3: You got understand, I'm at Meek when he was probably
Speaker 3: like eighteen years old and we've been cool ever since then.
Speaker 3: So to understand to what's most impressive is the growth.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because you've seen a kid
Speaker 3: that just had wrong talent. He didn't give up about
Speaker 3: nothing but rappit. If Gilly ain't got the studio, meet
Speaker 3: one of be in there, because they all came to
Speaker 3: a studio that I named that me and my partner
Speaker 3: developed called the bat Cave. Okay, and it was good
Speaker 3: because you can go right to the back cave. You
Speaker 3: could record your songs, rug, mix you down, and send
Speaker 3: your shit right to the radio right there. So when
Speaker 3: I see me coming, he rawl and he the one
Speaker 3: thing that that kid had that a lot other people
Speaker 3: didn't have. He had real hustle. He wanted that shit,
Speaker 3: so it would be like rug whatever time Gilly don't got,
Speaker 3: because Gilly books the studio while two months no, I
Speaker 3: want to body coming through there. From twelve o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning, in the afternoon, at twelve o'clock at night,
Speaker 3: Mick would say, Okay, I want to come in there
Speaker 3: from twelve o'clock at night to eight in the morning. Wow,
Speaker 3: it would really be hustling like that. So that's the
Speaker 3: reason why he's in the space that he's in. That's
Speaker 3: the reason why when you look up, he got all
Speaker 3: the cars, he got the mansions out of ben thee
Speaker 3: three of his mansions, he got the he's really doing
Speaker 3: shit at an elite level because his hustle is at
Speaker 3: an elite level.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when you see all the hate
Speaker 1: that he receives on social media? You see someone that came,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, came from the environment which he came
Speaker 1: from having the success, the success that he's had trying
Speaker 1: to do things for our community, and it seems like
Speaker 1: our community body men.
Speaker 3: The black always put she see I'm the og So
Speaker 3: anytime Googley will tell you, anytime they going through, I'm
Speaker 3: the one that reach out and I'm the one that
Speaker 3: push it into perspective for you because I'm older, so
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot more life and I've been through
Speaker 3: a lot more shit, So I'm able to push it
Speaker 3: to a perspective for you, and I say, you're listening
Speaker 3: in the Instagram meet or are you listening to that
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand people? You just performed it? Because I
Speaker 3: just seen you perform in front of twenty two thousand
Speaker 3: people and they was damn near falling out the raptors,
Speaker 3: So obviously they not the best on Instagram talking shit.
Speaker 3: It's easy to talk shit on Instagram. You could be
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old kid in Nova Scotia. Shay Shay,
Speaker 3: you ain't shit you. It's easy to talk shit on Instagram.
Speaker 3: For me, I've never seen somebody's post and been enthused
Speaker 3: to talk shit to somebody because my life is doing good.
Speaker 3: If I got a negative comment about you, it's just
Speaker 3: in my mind. Man, I'm a crazy man. But for
Speaker 3: me to actually type that shit on Instagram, that's letting
Speaker 3: me know that life got you on the button Necker
Speaker 3: Russian head lock. It's kicking your ass because I don't
Speaker 3: think about if I thought something negative. It's just funny
Speaker 3: to me. Yo, man, I'm a funny man. You be crazy, man.
Speaker 3: I'm not typing that on Instagram because you don't or
Speaker 3: a person don't concern me enough that I would take
Speaker 3: time to write a negative something about somebody on social media.
Speaker 3: That's taking too much time out of my life. I
Speaker 3: got real ship going on. I have an energy drink
Speaker 3: that's the official sports drink of the Philadelphia seventy six
Speaker 3: ers in the Chicago sky PERREI few hold away, I'll.
Speaker 2: Break dance on your tongue.
Speaker 3: You know you know what I mean. So for me,
Speaker 3: I got too much shit going on to concern myself
Speaker 3: with writing a negative comment about somebody. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It's it's just not in my I don't
Speaker 3: understand that.
Speaker 1: Jay Z tried to sign you, and you try to
Speaker 1: tie you and your group off with your twelve point
Speaker 1: What are points in the rat How.
Speaker 3: Do you know about this ship? Number one? Who you
Speaker 3: have some you got some good?
Speaker 1: We gotta look here. If you you know this, yes,
Speaker 1: you put a team together. If you can't trust your
Speaker 1: team implicitly, you need to get a new team.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolute point. It's like you know when you when
Speaker 3: you how many records you sell, how much money you're
Speaker 3: gonna get on the back end residual.
Speaker 1: Or it's not like the point you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: against Brannie, Right, Okay, you was here point.
Speaker 3: So so back in the day, Hove tried to sign
Speaker 3: my group major figures. It wasn't just Over, it was
Speaker 3: Dame Dash, it was Rocketfella. You know. I didn't feel
Speaker 3: as though that the contract was right, so I didn't
Speaker 3: accept it, you know what I mean. Yes, I did
Speaker 3: a solo deal with Tony Draper and swave House is
Speaker 3: a great friend to this day. Two other artists that
Speaker 3: was on major figures, Dutchy Spade, they went over the
Speaker 3: Entertainment Another artist that was on major figures.
Speaker 2: At LoVa, he went over to Doctor Dre.
Speaker 3: So we kind of had this Optimus prom thing going
Speaker 3: on where everybody could go get their own money on
Speaker 3: a solo thing. Then we're gonna do the group together.
Speaker 3: Jay and Dame came back with the offer. I didn't
Speaker 3: like the offer. I thought it was a slave deal.
Speaker 3: I thought we would have to sell a catrillion records
Speaker 3: to make some money. So I turned it down. And
Speaker 3: that was the situation.
Speaker 5: But what transpired after.
Speaker 3: That, I mean some things, you know, some things were
Speaker 3: said about making it difficult for you know, for.
Speaker 1: For you there to be in this game, you know,
Speaker 1: But does that happen a lot. If you were a
Speaker 1: fus side with someone, it's like, Okay, you're done. You're
Speaker 1: you're not gonna work in innustry.
Speaker 3: That happens a lot in this game, you know, especially
Speaker 3: to a young kid that got talent that's younger naive.
Speaker 3: You're like, man, what do you mean You're gonna make
Speaker 3: it difficult? I believe in God niggas shut up, but
Speaker 3: about the reality of it is is that they can
Speaker 3: make it difficult for you. You got to understand. Waler used
Speaker 3: to be Walla was in jail, right, and he used
Speaker 3: to call home and I used to say, because they
Speaker 3: blackballing me man, And I didn't know that he thought
Speaker 3: that I was full of shit until he came home.
Speaker 3: And then we would bump into people and they would
Speaker 3: tell us, like now Gilly was on the list that like,
Speaker 3: you got to understand shout out the spher sounds.
Speaker 2: You gotta understand.
Speaker 3: I did a because I was talented. People didn't want
Speaker 3: to block me, so he brought me up to MTV.
Speaker 3: Did a.
Speaker 2: I was on MTV.
Speaker 3: I did an interview on MTV and the interview was
Speaker 3: so powerful that they got a call from Universal said
Speaker 3: you'll never get an exclusive again. Wow, if you interview me,
Speaker 3: I'm just a kid just trying to get on. You
Speaker 3: gotta understand. I'm in a car. I'm on my way
Speaker 3: to fifty cent house because fifty cent went to sign me.
Speaker 2: Shout out to fifty you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And Uh, I'm in a truck with Cosmic keV shout
Speaker 3: out the biggest DJ from Philadelphia and he calls DJ
Speaker 3: called and uh, he says, man, Gilly got this record
Speaker 3: that's move and how it says here, Gilly, I see
Speaker 3: the record is moving the old you know, always fake
Speaker 3: shit and then says, are you still beefing with Little Wayne?
Speaker 3: Though I said, what does they have to do with you? Man?
Speaker 3: First of all, Wayne diss me. Right, anybody I ever
Speaker 3: had an issue with they started this shit. I never
Speaker 3: start nothing. I mind my business. Anybody know Gilly sit around,
Speaker 3: he smoking weedy work, he doers work, and he mind
Speaker 3: his business. Anybody I ever had an issue withever they
Speaker 3: started this ship with me. It's just that I'm ultra aggressive.
Speaker 3: So then when I come back, it's like, damn, that
Speaker 3: was crazy. Like no, if I'm getting in the ring
Speaker 3: with you, bro, I'm not throwing jabs. I'm throwing jabs
Speaker 3: and hooks and up because I'm trying to get you
Speaker 3: out of here right. So for me, there's always just
Speaker 3: been I mind my business with me. Then you did
Speaker 3: would come with that, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 3: back when I was speaking on because you got me off,
Speaker 3: just got damn con yac.
Speaker 5: It kind of fresh, your good smooth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna see you with a bottles.
Speaker 3: Let you celebrate them smooth through my thought process. Get
Speaker 3: you with that ship. Yeah, man, shout out to this stuff.
Speaker 3: Man shaved by Laportier shaved by to take something. It's
Speaker 3: a bsop to drinks like an x soll and.
Speaker 2: The ship smooth too.
Speaker 3: You sneak up on you, fucking run up on you
Speaker 3: like a bank robber.
Speaker 5: So Jay signed, he signed h State Property instead of you.
Speaker 3: Yes, they well they had once and got the deal
Speaker 3: and then we didn't sign the deal, so they had
Speaker 3: to deal when on around. So they put some guys
Speaker 3: together from Philly. It made it happen and shout out
Speaker 3: to State Property all of them. It's my guys.
Speaker 1: When you signed with Suave House Records, did you have
Speaker 1: to move to Houston, nah.
Speaker 3: Nah and shout out to Tony Draper, the really CEO
Speaker 3: that I ever met.
Speaker 2: In the game.
Speaker 3: You know, I went down there and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: Drake was the first person that showed me that this
Speaker 3: rap shit was real.
Speaker 5: Drake Drake.
Speaker 3: Oh Drake. Okay, Okay, Tony Drake, because I got this Houston,
Speaker 3: and you know, he set me up nice. He had
Speaker 3: the car picked me up from the airport and I
Speaker 3: get to his house and the gates opening. Oh oh,
Speaker 3: he got all the cards. Line we're talking about vipers
Speaker 3: would zip up windows and yeah here, I'm straight from
Speaker 3: North Philly. I'm like, what the the Bens and the
Speaker 3: Rover and the Viper and the Bentley and and then
Speaker 3: he come out and it's glowing like I don't know
Speaker 3: if the was doing skinned regiments back then, the nigga
Speaker 3: was glowing so but it's nineteen. He looked like he
Speaker 3: was he was floating to him like that's what Black
Speaker 3: Excellence looked like. You know what I mean. Yes, he's like,
Speaker 3: come on in and the fish tank, built a wall
Speaker 3: houses of maculate. This looked like maids clean as every hour,
Speaker 3: and you know, and then he took me over to
Speaker 3: the studio house. It's another Maculin And it was just like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, you know what I mean, you can really
Speaker 3: make money from this show. Okay, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: because I didn't grow up a rapper. I didn't even
Speaker 3: have cable TV growing up. I never seen no rap videos.
Speaker 3: I had one dream to go to the NBA. That's it.
Speaker 3: I started rapping in college, playing around. We just used
Speaker 3: to smoke some weed. My man he had a little radio,
Speaker 3: had a mic, he plays some beats. We say anything,
Speaker 3: we busting out laughing. Then one day we was like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna write something. I wrote a rap. We came back,
Speaker 3: I recorded it. They never They was like, yo, you
Speaker 3: never thought about rapping. I'm saying. I'm saying shit like this,
Speaker 3: misstop playing. I ain't another ass rapping man. Fuck as
Speaker 3: you're talking about me, and stop playing man. Because I
Speaker 3: didn't look at rapping as being a cool thing. I
Speaker 3: just looked at it as just some funthing to do. Right.
Speaker 3: And then when I come home that summer, that's when
Speaker 3: the robbery happened. That's when I get kicked out of college.
Speaker 3: And that one rap that I had was better than
Speaker 3: anybody that I came across who had a thousand raps. Wow,
Speaker 3: my one rap was better than any rap that they could.
Speaker 3: You gotta understand. I had four songs out. The fourth
Speaker 3: song I ever made was number one on the Countdown
Speaker 3: on Power ninety nine in Philadelphia, the biggest radio station.
Speaker 9: So they're like the number two song, Destiny's Child, and
Speaker 9: then they're like number one and I got I got
Speaker 9: a bidding war between every record label, Death, Champ, Priority, Allenic.
Speaker 3: Tony Draper didn't come on to the end, and I
Speaker 3: might got twelve raps, literally like, I went to the studio.
Speaker 3: The song was called Love for Gilly. I went to
Speaker 3: the studio and I was like, what I'm gonna rap about?
Speaker 3: And the guy was like, Marcus Graham, who is my
Speaker 3: manager at the time, said well, he wasn't really my
Speaker 3: manager because he just was somebody that was just rolling
Speaker 3: what he said, make a song about what you got
Speaker 3: loved for, make a song about what you don't got
Speaker 3: love for. And I was like, Okay, that's cool. This
Speaker 3: is nineteen ninety six and I just wanted a studio
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I got love for Thug and Thug, Missus, Marijuana, Smoke,
Speaker 3: Mo Pappas and don Zippers drug dealers, credit card counterfeit us,
Speaker 3: locked up in all of my broke. I got love
Speaker 3: for wild parties and wild bodies, sweaters by money, kill
Speaker 3: us like John Gotti, bad women in short dressers with
Speaker 3: huge bresses, the buggy yard bens with the triple headresses.
Speaker 3: It's my time to shine. You know I'm going blind.
Speaker 3: And Gilly got loved for other baby moms. And what
Speaker 3: if heating on little Gilly was a crime. It be
Speaker 3: no men left here. They all get the death chair
Speaker 3: in the top three. But I might be the best
Speaker 3: head low Rugby Timberlin's in My Guests where this is
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six. I don't even know how to rap.
Speaker 3: Put it, motherfucker, said, said, Go in the booth and
Speaker 3: write a song about what you got loved for and
Speaker 3: what you don't got loved for. Okay, that's easy. I
Speaker 3: know what I got loved for what I don't got
Speaker 3: love for, and then that song is number one on account.
Speaker 3: So when you got there was a ball MJG. You
Speaker 3: Rockey boy, MJG. Was there, Ross was there? Ain't was
Speaker 3: tough line at the time, Yes, damn.
Speaker 1: Then you signed with cash money, got in the band
Speaker 1: for two a k right, yep, but you never released
Speaker 1: a song.
Speaker 3: Why Because this is how I got signed with Cash Money.
Speaker 3: It was a show at the First at the First
Speaker 3: Union side. I think it's called the Wells Fargan right,
Speaker 3: and I was supposed to perform. Rockefeller was performing at
Speaker 3: the time. Me and Beanie and Rockefeller, Beanie Siegel are
Speaker 3: clicking his click at went through something, so Rockefeller made
Speaker 3: the call and got it meet off the off the show.
Speaker 3: Baby heard about that and was coming a few weeks
Speaker 3: later and put me on the Cash Money Show.
Speaker 2: When I came out, they watching.
Speaker 3: When I'm walking off the stage, Baby say say, bruh,
Speaker 3: if you want to come to Cash Money, I got
Speaker 3: ask for your brother. At the time, I was in
Speaker 3: a contract. I was still was in a contract with
Speaker 3: Tony Draper. But Tony Draper, like I said, he was
Speaker 3: like my brother. He was like a old debreak.
Speaker 2: Gave me the game.
Speaker 3: So I called him. I said, yo, man, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do this, go on this one, and he said
Speaker 3: all right. If that's the situation. He was in breach
Speaker 3: of contract, so I could have just left right, but
Speaker 3: he was so real to me that I said, you
Speaker 3: know what this is what I'm gonna do. I know
Speaker 3: how bad they want me, I'm gonna get them to
Speaker 3: pay you as well as give me an advance to
Speaker 3: get me out of the deal. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: So then they wanted me, so they re up and
Speaker 3: did the deal. After we did the deal, they wanted
Speaker 3: my publishing. But the number they was trying to get
Speaker 3: me for my publishing and the number that I was
Speaker 3: asking for it was two different things.
Speaker 2: So they never was able.
Speaker 3: But to get my publishing, we talking about a record
Speaker 3: label that owned everything.
Speaker 5: So he was like, nah, I can't do that.
Speaker 3: No, And so if they got everybody else's publishing on
Speaker 3: the label, and it's like I'm coming in. I'm from Philly.
Speaker 3: Now you can't get my unpublishing. So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: put him on the back bone. He gonna break, but
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna break.
Speaker 5: So what is publishing? That means you own? Yes, so
Speaker 5: you own the record for yeah?
Speaker 3: If so, if you write a record, you get a
Speaker 3: percentage of the record. Okay, if you don't own a publishing,
Speaker 3: you don't get no percentage of the record. So if
Speaker 3: this record plays for twenty years, thirty years, they make
Speaker 3: money for thirty years and you get none nothing. So
Speaker 3: they didn't want you to have anything. They didn't want
Speaker 3: you to have.
Speaker 5: The publishing.
Speaker 1: They wanted you to give up your entire right to
Speaker 1: the publishing nothing. Yeah, yeah, you did it right, You
Speaker 1: did it right by that? What what what have you
Speaker 1: learned or what did you learn or how have you
Speaker 1: learned about the music industry?
Speaker 3: I learned that all of that ship is fake, really, yes,
Speaker 3: all of it. That's why I don't go to no
Speaker 3: parties because all of it is fake. All of it
Speaker 3: is a bunch of fluff. All this is a bunch
Speaker 3: of drunks lying to each other. Now we're gonna get
Speaker 3: together Maine. Yeah, baby, I ain't got your number. Shut up.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to lie to me no more. I'm rich.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm tracking you now and I might
Speaker 3: buy a bastards. You ain't got to lie to me
Speaker 3: no more. I don't see. You got to understand. I'm
Speaker 3: this mother, right. They call us right, they say, Gilly,
Speaker 3: we want to invite you to the Rock Nation runch.
Speaker 3: I'm the nigga that said why would I want to come?
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to come? I said, you want
Speaker 3: me to keep it real with you. You want me
Speaker 3: to lie to you?
Speaker 5: Keep it a buck?
Speaker 3: I said, the Rock Nation brunch ain't of nothing but
Speaker 3: jay Z putting a bunch of on the lawn and
Speaker 3: then going in the back door and saying, I told
Speaker 3: you I still run this shit.
Speaker 2: Give me the money.
Speaker 3: Wow, you think I'm letting it use my brand? Huh?
Speaker 3: See rich like does yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, see you that I got.
Speaker 3: This shit from Rustle in the night. But I'll be
Speaker 3: seeing the rich shit like this. You know they get
Speaker 3: a little money. These cross their legs and shit. That's
Speaker 3: all this is, man. Let's keep it real. I got
Speaker 3: I work, I beree with twenty six mejor brands. You
Speaker 3: think I don't know what branding is. Come on, we
Speaker 3: don't work from New Hampshondam Vodka, Manscape, Harriet Raizors, Romance Swipes,
Speaker 3: you name them. They come to million dollars worth a
Speaker 3: game because we move a needle. I don't let nobody
Speaker 3: allow to use my brand with their brand. What do
Speaker 3: you get from going to these parties except for a picture.
Speaker 3: I don't even smile with you if you ain't worth
Speaker 3: five hundred million or more. Let's be for real. Don'tly smiling.
Speaker 3: They do us when the billionaires in the picture. Look
Speaker 3: at all these broke ASDs on the low. Mo, man,
Speaker 3: I ain't with none of that shit. I don't want
Speaker 3: to party with you. I built a weight for myself.
Speaker 3: I made a way for myself. I made my own way,
Speaker 3: me and God man. So I don't want to kick
Speaker 3: it with you. I don't want to do nothing. I
Speaker 3: want to stay in my own world, smoke my weed
Speaker 3: and make my content and keep kicking your glasses. That's
Speaker 3: what I like to do.
Speaker 5: The beef with you and hand with Wayne? How did
Speaker 5: that come to bout it?
Speaker 3: It was never no beef. It was just a misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: He disrespected me on the record. I responded, that was all.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of love for Wayne. Shout out
Speaker 3: to him. Man, y'all cool now, Yeah, I'm cool with everybody.
Speaker 5: Don't seem like you're cool with everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't have no issues with anybody. I
Speaker 3: just I'm forty eight years old. I ain't got now,
Speaker 3: I ain't got time for the dumb shit, and I
Speaker 3: ain't got time for trying to trick a nigga out
Speaker 3: of position to make your brain look good. Okay, forty
Speaker 3: eight years old, Man, I got I got, I got
Speaker 3: kids that graduated college. Man, were trying to do great things. Man,
Speaker 3: I ain't I got grandkids.
Speaker 1: Man, that's the second time in three days I heard
Speaker 1: somebody say that. Masterpiece said that on our live show
Speaker 1: the other night. He said, Man, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: because people are trying to trick you out of your position.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so, I don't want to come kick it with nobody.
Speaker 3: I like to stay in my world because I understand
Speaker 3: one thing. Who seven years back one trying to kick
Speaker 3: it with me. Come on, mane now I developed the lane.
Speaker 3: God said, you never gave up. These had you doing
Speaker 3: security at ross right now point. So the irregular polo
Speaker 3: ts you never gave up. Now understand that all the
Speaker 3: money for years, guess what they is burnt the out.
Speaker 3: I gotta recharge your fresh pack of six pack of
Speaker 3: deep batteries in my back. I'm gonna run these in
Speaker 3: the you me yes, in the whole. And I told
Speaker 3: you before, I'm coming to buy a couple of year masters.
Speaker 5: You ain't gonna do it like that craziest ship.
Speaker 3: I'm coming to. They're gonna get paid, But my family
Speaker 3: gonna eat off you for the rest of your existence
Speaker 3: and even when you ain't even here. That's my goal
Speaker 3: in life. It's too I gotta buy their masters. You're
Speaker 3: gonna do you feel some type of way? Huh No,
Speaker 3: they gonna get a shipload of money, but they want
Speaker 3: to own your life for the forever. I don't want
Speaker 3: your kids to eat off this ship. I want my
Speaker 3: kids to eat off this ship because you didn't want
Speaker 3: to see me. So it's even exchange. He ain't no robber.
Speaker 3: You're getting a shipload of money. Man, I'll do some
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, say, how what you want for that shit?
Speaker 3: Off of them?
Speaker 2: Ten more million than what he won?
Speaker 3: Wow, get the masters.
Speaker 5: Let me ask your question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cash money model, the bird Man, I mean
Speaker 1: he had them all. Yes, I mean he had the
Speaker 1: rap game. There was a stretch for about a decade. Yes,
Speaker 1: he cornered the market.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I admire about bird Man,
Speaker 3: and everybody know, I don't really with him like that,
Speaker 3: but I'm real his hustle, Okay, I ain't no gonna
Speaker 3: un hustle. He gonna hustle. See that's the that's what
Speaker 3: That's what people don't understand. They think, Oh, you got
Speaker 3: to be the smartest person here. You gotta head. No,
Speaker 3: you gotta do is hustle. And when God think that
Speaker 3: door show open for you, gonna open it for you. Right,
Speaker 3: So nobody is you gotta understand. I wasn't around cash
Speaker 3: money for four years. Man. We used to wait up,
Speaker 3: go to the studio, hustle all day, leave, go to
Speaker 3: the club, leave the club at two o'clock and go
Speaker 3: back to the studio and be there at eight in
Speaker 3: the morning, and then wake up at one and we
Speaker 3: right back in the studio. So the one thing I
Speaker 3: did understand from cash money, and I did learn from
Speaker 3: cash money is that you got to hustle different if
Speaker 3: you really want to win out here.
Speaker 5: So if you want to be different, you got to
Speaker 5: hustle them.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. But what to ask you this, gilly? You can
Speaker 3: help me, because why is it that all?
Speaker 1: But when when you get money, people always think you
Speaker 1: did something seed where you the illuminati or you you?
Speaker 1: You you are what the gatekeeping? Oh here's an overnight success.
Speaker 1: But nobody sees, nobody cares to know the grind or
Speaker 1: see the grind. All they see is the success and
Speaker 1: think and think it happened overnight, And I get that.
Speaker 1: I get upset because, like, hold on, what about the
Speaker 1: ten years I was on CDs? What about the seven
Speaker 1: years I was on Fox?
Speaker 5: So how's that? If that's seventeen years, how's it overnight?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: What you see is overnight. I saw the seventeen year grind.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's how it is for me. You got
Speaker 3: to understand what million dollars worth of game I was
Speaker 3: giving out me? And I was worth a game in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, while those didn't come home to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: So every day I would wake up and get a
Speaker 3: youth game. Let me give y'all, and I was worth
Speaker 3: a game even when it was the videos was fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3: I would give them something they could hold on to.
Speaker 1: You'll give a million dollar of a game when it's
Speaker 1: only five dollars, right, Why did you come up with
Speaker 1: that name?
Speaker 5: Me and all with a game?
Speaker 3: Well? Always that was always one of my sayings, Like
Speaker 3: it's a video of me Meek in a black de
Speaker 3: Niro in the studio in two thousand and nine, and
Speaker 3: I said, I give to me, and I was worth
Speaker 3: a game for free. Y'all, Just don't be listening I
Speaker 3: got an album called Million Dollars Worth a game that
Speaker 3: I dropped in twenty fifteen. So that's always been one
Speaker 3: of my sayings because I always felt like I'd be
Speaker 3: given the game and they don't be listening, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And so when I decided to get
Speaker 3: a youth game, I said, man, let me give them
Speaker 3: some game, whereas though they could it's rolling that cup,
Speaker 3: but they'd be able to digest it. Right.
Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two
Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever
Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to Part one on. Just
Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see
Speaker 1: you there.