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Speaker 1: Why does sports bring people together like nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Because we all root for one common gold.

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Speaker 3: That's like one of the only times in life with

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Speaker 3: if you're black and white, your purple, brown, pink, pink.

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Speaker 1: Which so religion. We throw orientation, We throw all that

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Speaker 1: out the window.

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Speaker 3: From one common Gold, a super bowl that bring everybody right.

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Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag price,

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Speaker 4: one slice got the brother gys.

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Speaker 3: Swap all my life.

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Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, and

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Speaker 4: grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag price, one slice

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Speaker 4: got the brother geys swat all my life.

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Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shape.

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Speaker 3: Shay.

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Speaker 5: I am your host, Shannon Sharp.

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Speaker 1: I'm also the propriud of Club Shape Shay stopping by

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Speaker 1: for conversation on the drink today.

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Speaker 3: Is a larger than life personality.

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Speaker 1: He's made a name for himself as a rapper in

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Speaker 1: now media personality hip hop's most captivating talents and respected

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Speaker 1: artist mc songwriter, hosts, actors, social media influencer, philanthropists.

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Speaker 5: He's a Luka.

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Speaker 1: He's a shrewd businessman, a culture like on an unmatched

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Speaker 1: force in his community. A prominent figure in the world

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Speaker 1: of hip hop, sports and entertainment. He put song for

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Speaker 1: his city with passion, A pioneer in the Philadelphia rap culture,

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Speaker 1: a Philly legend, a diehard Eagles fan, a loving father

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Speaker 1: and a husband from the city of brotherly love. He

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Speaker 1: goes by the name sometimes of Damion Gillard, Shake, Gil

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Speaker 1: Just ste Alexander Man new Gettinobi Shake, Gil O'Neill, Michael

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Speaker 1: Gil Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Here, your ladies and gentleman, Philly's own Gilly the kid.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what character whoever wrote that, whoever put

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Speaker 3: that shit together, that's a m Gilly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, brother, thank you for Jordan's guys, Bill May, Lady

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Speaker 1: JOm he been on one for the Tibby step there.

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Speaker 1: This told you today, bro, from what you've been able

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Speaker 1: to accomplish with million dollars, with the game, with your boy,

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Speaker 1: what with your cousin wallow Man, Thank you giving us hope,

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Speaker 1: giving us inspiration.

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Speaker 5: Because I saw you guys do it. I said, hey,

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Speaker 5: I can do.

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Speaker 3: It too, and you're doing it. Did it, done it,

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Speaker 3: still doing it.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. We're gonna leave you about that because you

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Speaker 5: don't want to turn off you don't want to turn

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Speaker 5: appreciate that. Bro, that's smooth.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, Gilly, I'm gonna be pra a warning. We are

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Speaker 1: recording this before the game. Yes, Saturday. The game is Sunday.

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Speaker 1: This is going to air Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: So boy, I sure hope y'all do that thing because

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Speaker 3: if you don't, they're gonna tear you up in the comments. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you know you're saying this. You know, you know

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Speaker 3: if my sister had a pin that she would have

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Speaker 3: been my brother. Un Fortunately she was my sister.

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Speaker 1: All right, So check this out. The Eagles are undefeated.

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Speaker 1: When you run out of the tunnel with the team,

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Speaker 1: yes they are. Are you running out on? Say, I

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten that call.

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Speaker 5: You ain't got that call yet.

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Speaker 1: I ain't get that call when you first ran out

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Speaker 1: the tunnel and you're bringing the team out and seventy

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Speaker 1: thousand fans and you feel that rush. How did it

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Speaker 1: come about? How did that happen? And what is that

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Speaker 3: Team, well, you know like a lot of people just

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Speaker 3: really getting on. But to me, but if you last

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Speaker 3: year when we was in the playoffs. We wasn't playing

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Speaker 3: come down to the locker room last year. It is

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Speaker 3: all over the internet where I went down last year

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Speaker 3: and talked to the team before the playoffs. So I

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Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni best coach in the league, with Jeffrey Lorie.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Jeffrey's son, the whole family, the best

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Speaker 3: owner in the league. Shout out to Howyrt Roseman, the

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Speaker 3: best GM in the league. And Big Dom, right, Big

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Speaker 3: Doms my guy. So when I was doing what I

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Speaker 3: was doing all year with my Chilly on sports live

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Speaker 3: had to see me dance, Big Dom figured who else

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? You're born, you're raised in Philly.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for a Philly kid to bring

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Speaker 3: I mean it means everything to me because you know,

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Speaker 3: since I can remember in my life, I only missed

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Speaker 3: three Eagle games. Really yeah, one of them was a

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Speaker 3: blackout game. We ain't selling enough tickets. In two of

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Speaker 3: the games, I was in the Dominican Republic with Vin

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Speaker 3: Grahams filming a movie. So to me, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: we come from a poor city man. When the Eagles win,

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Speaker 3: the morale in the city is better. It is when

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Speaker 3: the Eagles lose, the morale is down. You think about

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Speaker 3: all your problems. There's no escape. The Eagles is an escape,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? When I ran out the

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Speaker 3: I run out the tunnel and uh, I dropped down

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Speaker 3: to the ground. I started doing the Brian talk. You

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Speaker 3: the wolf ring, y'all hit the wolf ring, get up,

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Speaker 3: let's go. I run to the front of the line

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Speaker 3: there about to announced that the players now, and I'm with,

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Speaker 3: you know some of the players that run out first.

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Speaker 3: And I turn around. I look at Kenny Gainwell and

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Speaker 3: the tears come down.

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Speaker 2: My face and I say, I love this ship.

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Speaker 3: And Kenny looked at me like, you know you not playing?

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Speaker 3: Can you not playing with the you do? Then they

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Speaker 3: announced the players about them, all the players running out

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Speaker 3: of Then we run over to the sideline and the

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Speaker 3: National Anthemist playing and that shit's bawling down my face

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Speaker 3: to the point they got to the end of the

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Speaker 3: I said, what the are you doing? Get it together?

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Speaker 1: You not fork got caught up in there about You're

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Speaker 1: like you about to go to in a sweet.

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Speaker 3: You not tackling nobody, You're not getting no receptions, Chill out,

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Speaker 3: And I just had to wipe my face and be like,

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Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm just talking to myself. I'm like, you're.

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Speaker 5: Tripping all season long for the game.

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Speaker 1: You play cameos, candy before the games, after the game,

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Speaker 1: blow the Whistle too Short?

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Speaker 3: How did you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, were obviously were you a cameo fan or

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Speaker 1: songs that you started wearing? Candy by cameo blow the

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Speaker 3: At the end, Well, blow the Whistle has always been

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Speaker 3: one of my favorites. That's your anthem, Yes, that's you know,

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Speaker 3: that's just a song. That's a great vibe. And I

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Speaker 3: picked just like Candy because I was letting the other

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Speaker 3: teams know, y'all sweet, you know what I mean? So

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Speaker 3: whoever we playing that week, the Jaints just like can day,

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Speaker 3: oh see, and your wow, y'all sweet were gonna whoop

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Speaker 3: your ass this week, okay, And that's how that started off.

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Speaker 3: So you know tomorrow will be first thing in the morning,

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs just like can day. We got something

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Speaker 5: But you dancing, you dance an electric slide to ya yall?

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what's going on when you like you're

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Speaker 1: doing this and you're getting in your you get because

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Speaker 1: it seems like that's your routine. Like players at players athletes,

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Speaker 1: we have a routine and that we go through and

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Speaker 1: we feel that if we go through this routine, everything's

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Do you feel like if you don't

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Speaker 1: do that routine everything to the tea, something might go.

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Speaker 3: Wrong with you? Right the hell? Yeah? Even my broom

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Speaker 3: got that flew out. Bring that broom, don't bring no

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Speaker 3: other brooms.

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Speaker 5: So you just couldn't buy a room down here.

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Speaker 3: I can't. Why would we do that when we undefeated?

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Speaker 3: With him walking out with that broom, You better bring

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Speaker 3: that dirty little broom you got from the house that's

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Speaker 3: coming to the super Bowl with us.

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Speaker 5: We hit your slid. Let me see, let me see

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Speaker 3: What you got wait you know first seas from first

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Speaker 3: is from here? Right, yeah, you can you you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? And then you break it down and

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Speaker 3: then it is this, it's from here. This is a

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Speaker 3: this is an old school dance called the e Maddick

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Speaker 3: in Philly. Right, you just used to see Kevin Harten. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: bring it together one two three, one two one two three,

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Speaker 3: then your crawls and then your crawls and get us

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Speaker 3: right to the connum of greg.

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Speaker 1: So what if you saw let me, let's say, for

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Speaker 1: the sake of argument, Yes, A j Brown scores a

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Speaker 1: touchdown and he hits that.

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Speaker 3: He's an all time legend. He's going down in an

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Speaker 3: all time the Hall of Fame of Legends.

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Speaker 1: I saw where you say any racism in Philly when

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Speaker 1: you're a neighbor Jake Broomeman Swain is in your videos.

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Speaker 5: So how long have you known Jake?

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Speaker 3: Well, we moved into the neighborhood, right. Oh, that's our

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Speaker 3: you know, Jake used to sit on the porch, older guy,

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Speaker 3: so you know it would just be like, you know,

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Speaker 5: So he's like the mayor and do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just sit there. Okay, Okay, So you know

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling up in different car. I might be in

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Speaker 3: be in a BMW truck. Wilos in a Lamborghini. He's

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Speaker 3: in a Porsche, He's in his Maybag, he in his

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Speaker 3: sixty three bands, he and his Thenali truck. In the

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Speaker 3: like twelve different cars. So one day and then we

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Speaker 3: I would think we were selling drugs. Yeah, so I said,

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Speaker 3: let me go introduce myself to because when we pull up,

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Speaker 3: we see them. They out there like fox going on.

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Speaker 3: He come here every day in different cars and.

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Speaker 5: Just chill and don't say anything.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I want to introduce myself. No, this is

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Speaker 3: who I am. And I said, because I probably figured

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Speaker 3: you guys probably thought we were selling drugs, and Jake said,

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Speaker 3: we definitely thought you guys were. So when Jake and

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Speaker 3: guy because you kept it really you didn't try to

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Speaker 3: sugar coat you. Let us know the whole block. But

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Speaker 3: what you guys were selling drugs, we couldn't believe the

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Speaker 3: who we are. The block is comfortable. I'm gifting the

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Speaker 3: then Jake just so happened to walk over while I

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Speaker 5: Why is sports? You know?

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Speaker 1: Because I hear I've never lived in Philly anything. But

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Speaker 1: I hear everybody says Philly fans, they're so passionate about

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Speaker 3: This to be all the way honest with you, we

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Speaker 1: Wow, may y'all already won the game with a little

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Speaker 3: Our mentality is you thought you were going to win? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's what makes us idiots explain Philly to people that's

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Speaker 1: booz sant, who boot the man bringing presence? Who booz pant?

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Speaker 3: He didn't bring the right present? He was in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, y'all? Boot Ben Simmons shit, can y'all do

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Speaker 3: that to be Ben because he didn't bring the right presence.

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Speaker 3: He was impressive looking at them stat sheets, right, eight

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Speaker 1: That's bad, that's horrible. How the Eagles brought the city

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Speaker 3: I mean it's brought the whole city together, the whole area.

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Speaker 3: And I just don't want to say Philly because Delaware.

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Speaker 5: Have you thought about what happens if you guys don't win?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Did you go to the.

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Speaker 3: Last Super Bowl when they played? When they play Kansas

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Speaker 3: Did you think about.

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Speaker 5: But I could impact the game?

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Speaker 3: You can't harready impact. So if you you got to understand,

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Speaker 2: He said, you're three, and now.

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Speaker 3: He understands or the superstiti my energy is different. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Were playing for the be playing for the name on

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Speaker 3: and then I call out certain players. Your family watching

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Speaker 3: Good players has made during the regular season, Legends is

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Speaker 3: We're playing for the name that's on the front of

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Speaker 3: playing Philadelphia football today. That's smart, tough, fast and physical.

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Speaker 3: Everybody to the ball. By the time we leave out

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Speaker 3: If they brought an alien down from Morris Center and Pluto,

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Speaker 1: You get the call, I don't know who call you,

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Speaker 5: What would that? What would that?

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to run them out in the regular

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Gilly wallall call you the mascot.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you know that's cool.

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Speaker 1: What would that moment mean to the Philly kid that

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Speaker 1: running the team out in Super Bowl fifty nine onto

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing would have been getting me there to

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Speaker 1: Boom clear, Hello, this is the outfit that you normally

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Speaker 3: Absolutely what you how you going? How you wearing enough? No,

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Speaker 3: this is a regular VIC jersey right here?

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Speaker 5: Is that an authentic big jersey? Or that's the one

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Speaker 5: that is.

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Speaker 3: Authentic, the one I got, says Mike Gilvick on it.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, you said, I saw where uh gave Wallow

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Speaker 5: I'm a fan of the team that's winning. So if

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Speaker 1: If I root for you and you start to lose,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna find you another team. Squa said, man, I

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Speaker 1: come on, wallow bag, you bad wagon hoppit right?

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Speaker 3: And you know what's so crazy? This Saquon first year

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Speaker 3: Shrugg you like the Eagles. Now. He was so thrown

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Speaker 3: off that Sequon city. He was like, how you know that? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Man, man, you're sixers man, Yes, Gilly, I mean y'all

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Speaker 3: Yes, Jordan Beiid has been nicked.

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Speaker 1: I mean he played in the Olympics and then the

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Speaker 3: What's going on with your seventy sixers? Bro? What I

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Speaker 3: mean sugar coat? Nah?

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Speaker 5: We don't sugar coat nothing here.

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Speaker 1: This ain't no ben ye Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he made some wrong decisions. One with

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Speaker 3: You know, would you would you prefer to keep Tobias? No,

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Speaker 2: Worth, you know what I mean. Yes, it's like.

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Speaker 3: Looking like you're having trouble beating people off the dribble.

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Speaker 3: good as well. Because you played the whole summer with

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Speaker 5: You was nick going into the playoffs last year. Why

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear about you missing no practices. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Then you're gonna tap dance for the USA team and

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Speaker 3: gold medal. But when it comes to the Philadelphia seventy

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Speaker 3: court just as much as we get to see you

437
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: off the court. There's no difference. So at the end

438
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: of the day, it's like it's to the point where

439
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: you we never know if you gonna play or not.

440
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: Who want a player like that. I'm the biggest Joel

441
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: and B fan ever. I go on all these podcasts

442
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: and I let everybody know nobody could be nobody. He

443
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: was averaging thirty five points last year. But then the

444
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: games that's played.

445
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: So do you believe the opportunity to pass you back

446
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: because you had a couple of years that Ben Simmons

447
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: was there and he was an All Star. Ben was

448
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: playing at an All Star well, he was an All

449
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: Star All India defensive player. Joel Embiid, I mean it's

450
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: always been he's kind of nicked at the most inopportunity

451
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: at the wrong time, and.

452
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 5: So he's kind of limping into the playoffs.

453
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: Do you feel that you guys have missed that opportunity

454
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: you had the Hawks down three to one and you

455
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: let them come all the way back. Gilly, do you

456
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: feel your opportunity to pass you by now?

457
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like with this team right now,

458
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: our opportunity is whether Joel Embiid is healthy or whether

459
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: he's not healthy.

460
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: That's what it all comes down to.

461
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: If we get a Joel Embiid that's healthy, we can

462
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: beat anybody. But the problem is he's never healthy. Yes,

463
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: and you don't get healthier as you get older, right, needs,

464
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: get a little tender feet, get tender, help me get

465
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: all the fucked up.

466
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: You caught a lot of flat because you had Lebron

467
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: ranked over the Philly kids.

468
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: Rest is soul, Kobe? Yes, you still feel Lebron is

469
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: a better player than Kobe. Yes, I feel like if

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: Lebron James is the best player we ever seen in

471
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: the world, if we never seen Michael Jordan play, So you.

472
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: Got Jordan ranked over Lebron, that's the only player that

473
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: you've got over Lebron.

474
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, let me just ask you this question. Right,

475
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: If me and you both came in the league at

476
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: eighteen and I averaged twenty at eighteen, and you averaged

477
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: six point seven and I averaged more assist than you,

478
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: more rebounds than you. I'm the fastest player of the

479
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: ten thy fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty thirty five, the

480
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: fastest player. We came in the league at the same time.

481
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: How could you be better than me? We all we

482
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: both got the chips. Matter of fact, you wasn't even

483
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: the best player on your team at one time. I

484
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: never walked into a locker room and wasn't the best

485
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: player on my team at I got drafted number one.

486
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: I went to a team that won thirteen games. Do

487
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: you think that these grown ass men in this locker

488
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: room thought this eighteen year old kid was gonna come

489
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: in there and make a difference. They didn't know, But

490
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: I did, because the next year we won thirty something games.

491
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: So what do we talk Not taking anything away from

492
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: Kobe's greatness, but what are we talking about? This kid

493
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: had the most pressure on him out of anybody in

494
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: their history of the game. Front of Sports illustrated tenth

495
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: grade chosen one. They said, he can play in the

496
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: league right now when the tenth grade everybody's like, what

497
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: he probably could havebe. Bryant backed up Eddie Jones at

498
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 3: one time Lebron James wouldn't have backed Eddie Jones up

499
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: in eleventh grade. And Eddie is my man, Yes, but

500
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: Lebron James is different. Think about that. Yeah, he came

501
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: into the league as an eighteen year old kid and

502
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: probably was the eighth heaviest person in the league, but

503
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: probably was the fastest person in the league. So it's

504
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: not taking anything away from Kobe. But Kobe used to

505
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: go to an NBA locker room and put a Robin

506
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: uniform on. Shaq was batman. Lebron never showed up and

507
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: put a Robin uniform on in any locker room. Ever.

508
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: That's the difference.

509
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,439
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Speaker 1: rushmore Philly sports guys, So you got Iverson Chamberlain, Phras

529
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: and Smant, Julia Serving, you know them? Who is your

530
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: form guys that you're going to put on my brushmore?

531
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: You definitely gotta go Bubba Chuck. Hey, I you gotta

532
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: go Wilt Chamberlain. You have to go Joe Frazier and

533
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: you would have to probably go Julia Surfer the doctor.

534
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: Yes, you went all basketball Joe Joe.

535
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: I mean got Joe Freezier beat Mohammad a leave Man.

536
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: I could put Brian Dawkins in there, but he never won.

537
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: A super Bowl, right, you know what I mean? I

538
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: could put I could throw Jason Kelcey in there because

539
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: he's a But can I put Jason Kelsey over Doctor Jay?

540
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: I know I can't put him over Allen Iverson.

541
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: That's just like he's the all time Philly goat over everything.

542
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: So who's your best Who is your best rapper? NBA

543
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: player all time?

544
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard better than Shot Shack had Shack's little more records,

545
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: and Shack had his moments too. Can shock and rap?

546
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: He could do a thing.

547
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: That's my guy, but they ain't really got flow like that.

548
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're going who's the biggest rapper basketball wise,

549
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: then it would have to be Shack without a doubt.

550
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: All right, let me ask you this best rapper Hooper.

551
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Dirk J Cole, Breezy, Quavo, two Chain, game Master,

552
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: p Davies, Cameron, and Mace.

553
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: Mmmm. Now I would probably say Dave's better than Breezy.

554
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: No Breeze, he's good too, but no, no, no, no, no,

555
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: no no no. The person I'm putting number one NL

556
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: chopper really yeah, he can really play. You know, Ali

557
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: Tapa is the only person that I played against in

558
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: a celebrity game where I had twenty seven, he had

559
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: twenty seven. He manchined me bucket for bucket.

560
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: Like you know, master P almost made the league.

561
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but master P needs a little tender. My og

562
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: hips ain't looking the same, man, I mean it's back up. Yeah.

563
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: So one on so one on one, you and Chopper

564
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: who taking it the fifteen we going to fifteenth.

565
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Will already beat him twice in the Big three.

566
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 5: So no one on one. We're going one on one.

567
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: We guarding each other. So he got all the work.

568
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: He yell, you ain't got no gilly.

569
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: Everybody know when it comes to the og.

570
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: So we got a port in under this, so we

571
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: got to port it over.

572
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: I don't play no over thirty five, No disrespect my

573
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: game like that. Ain't playing no part cards like I

574
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: would not play you. That's the easy one.

575
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 5: What at five tiers? So we going five tiers?

576
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: We go together.

577
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 5: We gotta put a hype limit and a hold.

578
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: On it's footag y'all there me cooking lethal shooter. He's

579
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: six ' four. I don't play no game. He's mainly

580
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: a shooter. He ain'dtort really no one on That's what

581
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: I am I'm a shooter. No, you play, you play,

582
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: I'm a shooter. Heear mean, I'm open.

583
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: But you are a three times Big Big three celebrity MVP.

584
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: You gonna win it a game.

585
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: They brought the professor this year for me.

586
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: Oh, he gave you that work.

587
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: He got there and realized I signed up for some ship.

588
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: Why they don't let you play an nb A celebrity game.

589
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: Because it's an easy MVP for me. They know it.

590
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: It's too easy because and then honestly, I'm not even

591
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: hyped to play in the NBA Celebrity Game because that's

592
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: all politics. You feel me? Yeah, ninety percent of the

593
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: people out there can't play right, So it's like or

594
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: you just got the right you got the right publicist.

595
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: That's all. That's why you You never played basketball in

596
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: your life, why would you be playing in this game?

597
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: So that's about politics, man, And that's an easy MVP

598
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: trophy for me.

599
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay with the Negro League.

600
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 5: You believe you can Beatjamal Crawford in the one on one?

601
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Yes, the man stop playing alright, I'm just saying, Jamal

602
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: while you're ducking.

603
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: Me, that man is a three. That man is a

604
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: three time things man on the year.

605
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got six hundred and thirty nine thousand miles

606
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: on them knees.

607
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: They're done. He done, They're done. The man to cook you?

608
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: Why he ain't he he hasn't accepted my challenge. I

609
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: talked to him. He said, me and my son gonna

610
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: get you. All right, Well, let's let's do this. I

611
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: get your signed out the way first, just to let

612
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: you know this, this a grown ass man game. Sit

613
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 3: down a little JJ, JJ said, your little ass down man,

614
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: But you will Dad. I want, yeah, you know what

615
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: I want for.

616
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Fifty points for different teams. The oldest man that's gonna

617
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: fifty Dad that. Let me tell you something.

618
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: The one thing, you know, the one thing we don't

619
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: ever operade office. No fullback Thursday. Shit. We ain't not

620
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: parading off, no throwback Thursday. Shit. We don't want to

621
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: know about the bench n eighty nine. What you're doing now,

622
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm deep fried barbecue bacon, young mother fucker's fight down forty.

623
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking one on one. I'm taking Breezy over you.

624
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I cook Breezy.

625
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, you wanna pull up the footage of

626
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: me at Breezy house you could right, Okay, you cook

627
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: it deep fried barbeque, baked rotestary chicken. Oh no, for Breezy, Breezy.

628
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: Breezy got game. Yeah he can really play. Breezy could

629
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: really play.

630
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I got one for you because you were talking reckless

631
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: and he said he ain't gonna let him loose on

632
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: you just yet because he got the other things to do.

633
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: Bronnie, Bronnie'll cook you see.

634
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: Come see, let me just tell you something. I leve

635
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: rich Ball get away with that, right because Rich my

636
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: man Rich used to run around and Philly a little bit. Briannie,

637
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: you're too little at no, no, no athletic jump can shoot.

638
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you know where you done got me at.

639
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: That's the reason why we're a big hat man, every

640
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: big thing.

641
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: Every time Briddie scored, you're right, do that right there.

642
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: But what you gotta understand, if me and Jamal Crawford play,

643
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: or me and Briannie played one on one, right, I'm

644
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: forty eight years old. Right, if they beat me fifteen

645
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: or nine, I won you let somebody's grandfather score nine

646
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: times on you.

647
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: Now, I don't think you getting nine on Bridani. I

648
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 5: think you get like two or two.

649
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: Shit, ain't nobody ever beat me two winks nine?

650
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 5: You're all gonna do it. Back you down and post

651
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: you up.

652
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: And I ain't wonna about that six four wingspan. The

653
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Ferston be six four, but he got a six nine

654
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: wings fan five nine with a six four wings fan?

655
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: Well, Rich, bad challenge you to a three part competition

656
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: and you back down.

657
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: I let Rich. You know Rich is one of them

658
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: due to you know, we got some business ventures.

659
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: You don't want to ruin that?

660
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: What fuck that? Rich? My god? You know after we

661
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: close the venture, did I get about to get the symptom? Now? Rich?

662
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: And while we in negotiations and we're gonna be back

663
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: in form, I let Rich get that one.

664
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: If you wouldn't let you play in the Big Three,

665
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: you play the Big.

666
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: Three, playing the Big Three, but you won't let me

667
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: because you gotta understand. Think about this, right, I played

668
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: three Big Three games, right? Every game I hit a

669
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 3: full pointer and at least three three pointers? Right? Yeah,

670
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: mary O Thomas played a whole Big Three season. Ain't

671
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: hit a full pointer? Man? Why he catch you straight?

672
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, what's my other man?

673
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: With the podcast The point Guard Jeff t Yeah, play

674
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: the whole Big three season.

675
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna talk about you gonna cook Teed. You

676
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: ain't gonna cook my five twenty guys.

677
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: I'm just he running from me. He keep calling me,

678
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: keep talking about what we're gonna do. But anytime I'm

679
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: trying to set up the game, they're not playing. But Tee,

680
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: I'm telling them handle this. You know this going straight

681
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: to Instagram. We're doing this live. We not doing no

682
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: filming where we gotta edit shit. I don't need to

683
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: edit shit. I get five, six, seven buckets in a row.

684
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: Step your ass up, and then you gotta deal with

685
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: the mouth. That's the thing they can deal with.

686
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: Oh so you're gonna try to talk about their game. No,

687
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: that's what I do. That's what I do to step up.

688
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't step up. But see Briani, you ain't

689
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: even be getting that shot out. You see Bridni throwing

690
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: folks stuff out of there.

691
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: I got a jump shot and he did it right there.

692
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: I know how to get them right. Young Kobe d skills.

693
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: Briannie is the Brannie is the truth. He's going to

694
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: develop into a great play. But the things I could

695
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: teach him. It would have celebrated process. That's all I'm saying.

696
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: But you did get a basketball scholarships. Yeah, what happened?

697
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: To wallow tell you what I have?

698
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: Nah, Wallowey, tell me what happened. I got you here?

699
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 5: Tell me I got you.

700
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: Where you said that. What happens? It's like I know

701
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: some details, and well, I was a young, reckless kid

702
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: becaase you didn't like you. Nah, the coach love me.

703
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Shout out to coach Zeke loved me. And during the summertime,

704
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: I had got into something of an arm robbery type

705
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: of situation. That's something like, so, I'm like, because I

706
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: changed my life, brother, Yeah, okay, I'm trying to make

707
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: it look good. And you up like I got spots

708
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: and ship you know so, and I'm trying to make

709
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: you know. But sponsors in the stand that I changed

710
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: my you dead, we're talking about them there thirty years ago,

711
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yes, and uh rest in

712
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: piece to Alan Bunch. You know what I mean. Was

713
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: a kid that was with me that lost his life

714
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: and I got kicked out of college and uh that's

715
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: when rapping started.

716
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: And uh, if you got that skill though, Gilly, you

717
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: had a skill, you got a scholarship to play basketball.

718
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: How would you get jammed doing an arm rock? No,

719
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: I'm in college.

720
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: I know what I'm saying.

721
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm actually in my sophomore year. Yes, but you got

722
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: to understand you growing up in the ghetto, right, Yes,

723
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: and I didn't. Me and my mom didn't really have

724
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: the best relationship when I was younger. So I moved

725
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: out of my mom house at seventeen years old. I

726
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: never been back. I'm forty eight years old, you feel

727
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I had an apartment off of campus.

728
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: I would go to I went to school, and the

729
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: assumption was that I had family members that looked out that.

730
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: You know that, because I would leave come home. I

731
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: would give a whilow who was my little cousin. We

732
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: would go do some crazy shit and then I go

733
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: back up to the school. But I had an apartment

734
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: off campus, so I would come home, go back up

735
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: to school. Oh, go play basketball tournaments. My schoolwork never

736
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: was a problem, Go home, go back up to school.

737
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: So when this happened, they had me on the front

738
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: of the daily news. It said Cabrini basketball star lived

739
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: this double life. Damn. And then it talked about how

740
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: I went to college. I was productive, I was on

741
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: a team I started as a freshman. But then it

742
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: also talked about how I got caught up in some

743
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: jacket vote right, so I got kicked out of college.

744
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: And then it was a little rough.

745
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: Do you remember you remember the day that you.

746
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 3: August twenty second, nineteen ninety six, the day my homie

747
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: got killed during an arm robbery. Rest in peace, Allen Bunch,

748
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: Love you, brother. I always would represent you. Shout out

749
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: to his mother because one of the hardest days of

750
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: my life was going to his funeral. Because he was

751
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: a kid that went to college with me, and he

752
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 3: was he didn't come from that shit, And I told

753
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: him what it was that I did. He didn't even

754
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: believe the ship. But then as he started hanging with

755
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: me during the summertime, he got involved with me.

756
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: He wanted to go and then you know, one thing

757
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: led to another.

758
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so shout out to Alan Bunch. You also ran

759
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: track too, Yeah, so you do you play football? Nah?

760
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: I was good at running, for.

761
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: Mother, that'd have been perfect for football.

762
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: I know, like, yeah, Wallow was never good at running,

763
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: always got cold. Yeah. Yeah, me the cop. You hear

764
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: the cop, sovereigns go off year he's going to jail.

765
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: That nigga Gilly is going to get skinny. God's wait up.

766
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: That's the police heavy waiting up for himself. Anytime you

767
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: hear from him, you have a collect call from you

768
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: as well.

769
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: How can I have your color?

770
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: And Nick? Never got away man because a juvenile. He

771
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 3: never got away.

772
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: I saw a shot.

773
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: He's scarny.

774
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: How he's slow and scinny.

775
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: That motherfucker a heavy ankles and the heavy est ankles

776
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Hear me, he'll be with six. Everybody get

777
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: away by him.

778
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: I got one for you, Yeah, Cat, I think can't

779
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: get you in a forty.

780
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: Time cook the ship out of kitch.

781
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: You're crazy. You saw that man run like four five

782
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: on the fen of forty. You saw it?

783
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I ge me and you both flow. That wasn't.

784
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: Okay?

785
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: Four six five fucker five six wid come on that

786
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: If you don't got that what it's why he ran

787
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: down more nique. That was in a high school. Jyp.

788
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: Cat didn't be warm up. He was in some damn jeans.

789
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: You know, God there with it's God damn wide receivers

790
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: in the draft right now, coming out the draft, they

791
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: running and got there four five you know then what

792
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: it was? Six' one? Cat get you though, No, you

793
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: won't see it's the difference you got You ain't You

794
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: don't run no party if gillet I do. I just

795
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: ran a forty at the Giants facility, did not And

796
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: what did I run? Four nine? What? Man, you ain't

797
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: running no four nine forty eight? What did I run?

798
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: Four nine two at thirty three yards?

799
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: At forty yards?

800
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: Who marked? Who marked the yard?

801
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: They? We was really at the Giants facility, And I

802
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: told them I could run. I was hyping the ship

803
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: up though. I told him I could run a four

804
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: to six, And he was like, well, we got the

805
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: guy right here with the time of me out there

806
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: and I ran a four nine first time, didn't warm

807
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: up in nothing, So imagine if I warmed up, stretched

808
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 3: and ship you know, four nine fortnine. But I feel

809
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: like I'm going with Cat all right. I mean we

810
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: could do would man for some money, I got Cat

811
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: that that would be the easiest money ever. Gave me many.

812
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Hey, Cat, Hey, I just need Cat to train for

813
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: like two months.

814
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: Cat ain't got it. Kennon on toward doing shows.

815
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 5: Man, you and Coach Prime, good friend.

816
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: Yes, you and Wallow, you guys were down there when

817
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: he took off the Jackson State. You guys were really

818
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: the Perston layups. Yes, that showed up on the scene,

819
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: showed lust game. First game, you got Coach Prime.

820
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: I knew Coach Prime for for a minute.

821
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: Man. You know, Coach is a really good guy, you

822
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean as far as speaking to him,

823
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, and Coach is somebody that I could call

824
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: and get some games, you know what I mean. And uh,

825
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: when he told us he was going to Jackson State,

826
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 3: he was like, Coach, we in. You know, we're gonna

827
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: come down there and we're gonna we're gonna put some

828
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: light on this ship and we're gonna really help you,

829
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. The program, the program now

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: it was up y'all off, y'all win or not. But

831
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: the light we could bring is you know, it's a

832
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: different type of light. And Coach was really you know,

833
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: your perceptive of that, like, let's do it. And then

834
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: they won, you know, and then they won the second year,

835
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: and then it made it even better because Travis decided

836
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: to go. So now you got a big name coming Shdorf.

837
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: He could have want the Alabama could have won here.

838
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna go play for my dad. So

839
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: now you got some big names that's coming. That's also

840
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: drawing some attention. You got us and you got coach Brown.

841
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: There's a situation. You guys are there. Guy scores a touchdown.

842
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: You're running down the sideline with him. He gets in

843
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the end zone, he hands you the ball. You in

844
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: the end zone, you spike it. What the are you thinking?

845
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

846
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 5: But you're like, you ain't got no head of the

847
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: should up.

848
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: But listen, but if you look at the video, they say, Killy,

849
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: you just gotta stand behind the white. Yeah, if you

850
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: look at that video, Coach Prime said it. He said,

851
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: Gilly's behind the white. I ran the whole sideline, go Nesh,

852
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: let's go, because you know, I know these kids him

853
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: in the locker room, I'm dancing with him. I'm hyping

854
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: him up. Before the game. I ran the whole sideline

855
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: with him, but I was behind the white. I got

856
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: to the end zone, he threw me the ball. I

857
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: was like, now, when Tom Brady gave his offensive line

858
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: in the ball. Tom Brady at the game, they at

859
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: the game Gilly for a minute. I was in the game,

860
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: and Coach Prime said, in Gilly's defense, why would you

861
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: throw him? Like, what was he supposed to do? He

862
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 3: running down, he's taping you up, and did you give

863
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: him the ball penalty on the bench. I'm like, that's me.

864
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 5: The only thing that made it worse. If you threw

865
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 5: the ball in the stands.

866
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: Why why they would have made it?

867
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Man, you can't throw that. Ain't an NFL game. You

868
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: have seen somebody kind of throw the ball at the

869
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: same Yeah, I did not have it. I have it exactly.

870
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: See. I don't even know all the rules, you know what.

871
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: I was so into the game that they threw a penalty.

872
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 3: I didn't even know the flag was on me or nothing.

873
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm walking up the sideline, I'm charging your widow's head

874
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: and there was nothing about sports. He was like, cuz,

875
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: I don't think you're supposed to do that shit, And

876
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: then did all common sense hit me. I was like,

877
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: personal file. I was like, that was the first time.

878
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: The first game I never went in the locker room

879
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 3: doing halftime. I was like, I'm staying on the field

880
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: with the cheerleaders and ship. I ain't going to the locker.

881
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Where would you want to see your door go?

882
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 5: What thing?

883
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: I would want to see your door go to the Titans,

884
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: Number one.

885
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: Overall, number one overall no noise Titans, Lacey, you don't

886
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: have none of the noise. But I also believe that

887
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 3: wherever it's your door goes, he's good. Because you got

888
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: to understand. If I'm a GM and I'm drafting the quarterback,

889
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: I gotta say to myself, this kid's been through a

890
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: lot more than every other kid in the draft because

891
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: he always had to live up to be in Dion

892
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: Sand the sun, so he always had the spotlight on

893
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: him and all he did was produce. When he went

894
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: to Jackson State, they said he was at a black college.

895
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: Then he went to the worst FBS school in college football,

896
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: which was Colorado. At the time, there was the worst

897
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: FBS school in football Division one football, And two years

898
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: later they're ranked in the top twenty five. So that

899
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: shows you that he won in high school four state championships.

900
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: He went to college, they said, oh, he's at a

901
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: black school. He couldn't do that if he was here.

902
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 3: Then he went to a school that wasn't that good

903
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: and took them to greatness took them to something to

904
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: whereas though now it's an attraction that you actually want

905
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: to go to Colorado because they got Julian Newman now.

906
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: And that's a that's a product of Coach Prime. Yep,

907
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: his coaches, Doors Sanders, Travis Hunter, and the way that

908
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: Coach Prime treats his players.

909
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: You got an opportunity to see Trat when he went

910
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: to Jackson State. He followed time to see you an

911
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to see him up close and to watch what

912
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: he turned himself into. We knew he had the potential,

913
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: but to see last year that Heisman and you got

914
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: you went to a lot of games.

915
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: What is it like?

916
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Explain to people that had never that's never seen Trap

917
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: play in person?

918
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: What is it like?

919
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: First of all, it's like.

920
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of strange because Travis outside off the football

921
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: field is just the nicest kid. He what's up man? Hey?

922
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: You know, but then when he stepped on the field,

923
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: it's like a light. It's just like a switch go

924
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: on and he's a total different person. Don't throw that

925
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: shit over here?

926
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 5: And you're like, who there?

927
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Like that's the same kid? Like because

928
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: he's so nice and you don't even think I wouldn't

929
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: even think that he even like even had that like

930
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: mentality to talk. But when he step on that field,

931
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: it's like it's just like a total different dog. So

932
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: and you you really be like, Okay, he really takes

933
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: this shit serious because he's two different people. When he's

934
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: off the field, he's calm, he's laid back, he's the

935
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 3: nicest he and then he stepped on the field and

936
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: it's like, I wish you would try me throw that

937
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: shit over if you want, And it's like he get it.

938
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been mad for twenty seven years when you

939
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: met your wife.

940
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: How did you know she was the one? Or do

941
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: you know.

942
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure that shit out now. Look

943
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: at my daughters in right then, So you see if I.

944
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 5: Do, I'm not to say I would tell Mama.

945
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: No, you know, you really don't know if somebody is

946
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: the one, because you know, every day is a different challenge.

947
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: But after we got you know, some time, man and

948
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: years in and she was just so different, raised so

949
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: different from how I was raised, you know what I mean.

950
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: I never sat down at the table and had dinner

951
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: with the family, and.

952
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: They did that every day.

953
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, sat down at the table,

954
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: had dinner, talk to about the day, what she did today,

955
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: And my mom worked two jobs and like I was

956
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: like home, like making beans and hot dogs for my

957
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: little sisters and shit. So it was just totally different,

958
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: and she brought a whole different perspective on life to me.

959
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I was a kid coming

960
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: up straight out the street carrying guns. She's like, you

961
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: gotta take a gun to my mom house. I don't

962
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: go anywhere without my guns.

963
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: I'd rather be caught with it than without it.

964
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: I'd rather be judged by six and judged by twelve

965
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: than carried by six. Only ghetto shit the ship. That

966
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: didn't make no sense. Now there you sit back. He

967
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 3: was like, what was I I'm at the dinner table

968
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: with her parents. Like, how you guys doing gun on

969
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: my hip? Like parents are gonna do something? I should

970
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: hold ghetto analogies. That didn't make any sense. I would

971
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. I

972
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: would rather be a lion for a dating a sheep

973
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: for a thousand years. No, I would rather be a

974
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: sheep for a thousand But the ghetto trains you to

975
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: think some of the most dumbest shit you can ever like.

976
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: And I also say growing to a ninety five percent

977
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: white college was some of the best shit I ever

978
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: did in my life because they took a kid straight

979
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: out the ghetto who the white man was to blame

980
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: for everything. Let's just be for real, white man, Ricky up.

981
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: Ricky ran in the bank with a gun. But growing

982
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 3: up in the ghetto, it's not that, oh man. They

983
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: just white man gave Ricky thirty raheen twelve years. They

984
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: ain't shit raheen spistol to be the build in broad daylight.

985
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: They robbed them. So me going to an all white college,

986
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 3: it opened my mind up because I got up there

987
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: and I understood that you got some really good white folks,

988
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: how you guys that ain't shit That was like, what

989
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: is this doing on campus? But you also had some

990
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: white folks that would them up if they said that shit.

991
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: And it just opened my mind up to a different

992
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: perspective of life and even how to operate and be

993
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: yourself around whoever. You feel what I'm saying. So when

994
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: I finally started doing deals and I was able to

995
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: operate around whoever, I was able to be myself around whoever,

996
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. And because I was in every environment

997
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: and if you never actually put me in that environment,

998
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: never know I would you feel what I'm saying. I

999
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: got black friends right now that if I take him

1000
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: in an all white room, he told about how you doing. Uh,

1001
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm Jamal. I'm like, I thought you was bulleted. I

1002
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: didn't even know your name was Jamal. You've been bulleted

1003
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: here old now you're here with you just switched up.

1004
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: You have switched up on me.

1005
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: So to know you have someone, because it hasn't always

1006
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: been you haven't always been this gilly say that like

1007
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: by the last decade, there's been some trials and tribulations.

1008
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: There's been some ups and down. But to know you

1009
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: gotta ride or die in your corner.

1010
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: I mean, that's everything you gotta understand. She went to

1011
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: jail with me. How you had the old leady go

1012
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: to jail? I was she Actually she took me to jail.

1013
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: She was the one selling the weed. I want to

1014
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: tell the story, but yeah, she went to jail with me,

1015
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: and we had a thing called the nebula here. Whereas

1016
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: though you can't bail out from the first, you gotta

1017
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: be locked up from three to ten take from three

1018
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: to ten days for your nebula hearing to come through,

1019
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 3: And it just so happened ours came through on the

1020
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 3: tenth day, and she wrote me a letter from one

1021
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: jail to the next and said, Babe, don't be over

1022
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 3: there stressing. I'm okay over here, I'm back and these

1023
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: bitches off. And I thought that was the funniest ship

1024
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna keeping way way my woman. Look, I'm

1025
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: like the over here.

1026
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 7: Yeah they did, somebody got some good jam.

1027
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: But she wrote me that letter. I was like, was

1028
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: that the moment you knew? No, I hadn't do it

1029
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: before that ship. She had to be locked up, And

1030
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: right now you're trying to get me in trouble.

1031
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know she'd have won. Yeah,

1032
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: but she wasn't enough to make you stop doing that foolishness.

1033
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: Well, she was liking the Louie.

1034
00:56:50,880 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 8: Bags, ye know what I mean. You like you like

1035
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 8: the lights, you know what I mean?

1036
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: But uh, that was when it changed my life, because

1037
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: I said, that's when I really you always had a

1038
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: relationship with God. But I said, if I get out

1039
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: of this situation, you ain't never ever got to worry

1040
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: about me ever. You done being in your way ever again?

1041
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 3: Or the police way ever again.

1042
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: What was your first impression when you met her? When

1043
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: you fail for the first time. I don't know where

1044
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: you met her, when he was in the mall or

1045
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: you walking?

1046
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: You got understand when I walked up on her right?

1047
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 5: You know what? How you doing? Okay again? Okay, we're

1048
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 5: gonna go back thirty years ago.

1049
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: Of our facetiming right now. She'll tell you. I smelled

1050
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: her hair. Yeah, you weird. No, that should have get

1051
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: your case now. But I said, I was like, I said,

1052
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: you got all this long gas, pretty hair. I said,

1053
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: you don't need no Paul Mitchell products or nothing. I

1054
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: bet you when you run, your ship bounced, don't it.

1055
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: She had never heard no ship like that in her life.

1056
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: She was like this crazy, Yeah I am. And you

1057
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: know the one thing that good girls like crazy. She's

1058
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: been a part of my life ever since. You gotta understand.

1059
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: I used to have to go pick her up from

1060
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: the corner of her block because she didn't want her

1061
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: parents to see me. And then I just got it

1062
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: to her. I said, listen, nothing is enough. I ain't

1063
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: picking you up from the corner. No more, I'm a

1064
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: grown ass man. I was like, twenty one grown ass

1065
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: man doing that shit. You gotta understand. She told me

1066
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: her dad was black, and her mind was Korean bro.

1067
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: Looking at my woman, I thought it's gonna be this

1068
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: little light skinned, curly head with pretty eyes.

1069
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 5: That darker than you.

1070
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: Pulled up and she was like, that's my dad on

1071
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: the porch. I was like, the extra crispy, that dark

1072
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: motherfucker right, this is your dad. She was like yes.

1073
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: I felt so comfortable after that. That was it. I

1074
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: was like, he's a nig that's a that's a field nigga.

1075
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, what I met her dad? Her

1076
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: uncle was said, I knew my uncle. He was like,

1077
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: you want something to drink? They was out there with

1078
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: the yeah you want to drink? I said, yeah, I

1079
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: take a drink. What you said? I like you. I

1080
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: don't trust people that don't drink. I was like, damn.

1081
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: That's when I also realized the littles was a bunch

1082
00:59:53,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: of alcohol. But whole family loved me. Man, Mom loved me,

1083
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: and I love the family and Bill. We've just been

1084
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: together for so long. It's my twenty two year old

1085
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: daughter sitting right there, twenty five year old son.

1086
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: So we've just been together.

1087
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: Father. Man, it's a beautiful thing when you know that

1088
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: you truly got somebody that, you know what i mean,

1089
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 3: really got your back.

1090
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 5: What if you tried to instill in your daughter about dating.

1091
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: She's a dating age now, guys, you find that it's

1092
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: different if you ain't have no bread. They see her

1093
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: like trying new young lady. Dad got some paper, How

1094
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: can we get some of it? What you tell your

1095
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: daughter about it made me kill.

1096
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: You done, gave you that life up, you know, made

1097
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: me kill somebody, made me go to prison. Now I'll

1098
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: play it. I'm just tell her you know that, you

1099
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: know for the most importantly, you know what I mean,

1100
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: just makes you always being respectful to yourself, you know

1101
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: what I mean. She was raised right, so she understands,

1102
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. What's the dudes and the don'ts?

1103
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: She see you the relationship that you have with the mom.

1104
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: Right, so that that's a perfect example of what you

1105
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, you me and your mom.

1106
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: We have ups and downs, just any relationship. We have arguments.

1107
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: We have the arguments is only reminded of the motherfuckers

1108
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: how much you love them? Right? You know what I mean?

1109
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: You gotta you got a relationship that's too quiet, something

1110
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: at right, you know what I mean. Sometimes you gotta

1111
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: argue just to get the fly your set. You gotta

1112
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: argue just to make up. Hey close years.

1113
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart's from phil You got a relationship with Kate Hart.

1114
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Y'all be joking that guy. I can imagine what tomorrow

1115
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: is going to be like.

1116
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: Yes, if y'all have when we win, when the Eagles win,

1117
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: when we win, you and k Hart gonna be all

1118
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: one on Oh what me? Kevin Hart, Meek Mills, Stephen Fowen,

1119
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: four time champion two week division. He's over there in

1120
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: the house at Club Shasha. So man, whole Philly gonna

1121
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: turn up. Man, I'll tell you one thing. When we win,

1122
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: they think I was dancing before, Shit called me DM

1123
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: goddamn dancing machine.

1124
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: What what is ka? Because you see yourself, you see

1125
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 5: Gaile and Meek.

1126
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about making a little bit in his

1127
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: reform and what he's trying to do to reform a

1128
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: prison reform and and guy's in probation.

1129
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: Talked to Wallow what is what is Kay Hart?

1130
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: To see his story, to see where he came from Philly,

1131
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: just like you a Philly kid.

1132
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: No, you gotta understand me and Kevin Hart from the

1133
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: same neighborhood. Really just Kevin Hart used to live above

1134
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: a guy that was in my rap group ad Lava

1135
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: Major Figures, So he lived on the bottom floor and

1136
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: keV lived above them. Wow, like Kevin is from me,

1137
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: from the same neighborhood. So to see him make it

1138
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: out and I make it out, and meet make it

1139
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: out and Freeway make it out. And man coming from Philly, Man,

1140
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: that shit is rough. You gotta understand. I got five

1141
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: main homies, all of us been shot. Think about that.

1142
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: It's like a surprise when you haven't been shot in Philly.

1143
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you haven't been shot, you lucky man.

1144
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: So when you come up in a rough environment like that,

1145
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: two years ago we had damn near seven hundred murders,

1146
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: think about that. Wow, that's two dying a day during

1147
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 3: gun violence. Imagine how many people is getting shot because

1148
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: most people that get shot don't die. Imagine how many

1149
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: people is getting shot in Philadelphia. So when you able

1150
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: to come about there in the type of environment and

1151
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: make something out of yourself when the whole everything is

1152
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: against you to fail. I gotta be proud of keV

1153
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: I gotta be proud of me. I gotta be proud

1154
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: of certain individuals because it's like pro you special. You're

1155
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: one of the ones God wrapped his arms around me.

1156
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: You know how many people in Philadelphia will cut their

1157
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: finger off to be in Kevin Hart position, to be

1158
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: in my position, to be in Wallow position, Meet Midle position,

1159
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: Freeway position, and a few others. Jill Scott Eve, you know,

1160
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: cool boy.

1161
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: So when you come about those gutters, man is rough man.

1162
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: If you can make anything out of yourself, you always

1163
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 3: got to applaud that.

1164
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: Shit you mentioned Meet and you watch you see Meet

1165
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: with freestyle in the Philly streets. And now he's one

1166
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: of the biggest rappers in the game. And he's trying

1167
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: to do a lot with his life. Learned a lot,

1168
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: been through a lot. You see he's trying to do

1169
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: with prison reform and probation and parole. What's it been like,

1170
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: like you said, to see guys that come from the

1171
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: environment in which I came from.

1172
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 5: And I know what it's like because I lived in

1173
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 5: that jungle.

1174
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: I lived that environment and to make it out and

1175
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: to make something. What's it like to see people that

1176
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: grew up in a very similar situation as Gilly and

1177
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: to be where they are now.

1178
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: You got understand, I'm at Meek when he was probably

1179
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: like eighteen years old and we've been cool ever since then.

1180
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: So to understand to what's most impressive is the growth.

1181
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because you've seen a kid

1182
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: that just had wrong talent. He didn't give up about

1183
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: nothing but rappit. If Gilly ain't got the studio, meet

1184
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: one of be in there, because they all came to

1185
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 3: a studio that I named that me and my partner

1186
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 3: developed called the bat Cave. Okay, and it was good

1187
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: because you can go right to the back cave. You

1188
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 3: could record your songs, rug, mix you down, and send

1189
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: your shit right to the radio right there. So when

1190
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: I see me coming, he rawl and he the one

1191
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: thing that that kid had that a lot other people

1192
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: didn't have. He had real hustle. He wanted that shit,

1193
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: so it would be like rug whatever time Gilly don't got,

1194
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: because Gilly books the studio while two months no, I

1195
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: want to body coming through there. From twelve o'clock in

1196
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: the morning, in the afternoon, at twelve o'clock at night,

1197
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: Mick would say, Okay, I want to come in there

1198
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: from twelve o'clock at night to eight in the morning. Wow,

1199
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: it would really be hustling like that. So that's the

1200
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: reason why he's in the space that he's in. That's

1201
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: the reason why when you look up, he got all

1202
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: the cars, he got the mansions out of ben thee

1203
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: three of his mansions, he got the he's really doing

1204
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: shit at an elite level because his hustle is at

1205
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: an elite level.

1206
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts when you see all the hate

1207
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: that he receives on social media? You see someone that came,

1208
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, came from the environment which he came

1209
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: from having the success, the success that he's had trying

1210
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: to do things for our community, and it seems like

1211
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: our community body men.

1212
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: The black always put she see I'm the og So

1213
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: anytime Googley will tell you, anytime they going through, I'm

1214
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: the one that reach out and I'm the one that

1215
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 3: push it into perspective for you because I'm older, so

1216
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot more life and I've been through

1217
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: a lot more shit, So I'm able to push it

1218
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 3: to a perspective for you, and I say, you're listening

1219
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 3: in the Instagram meet or are you listening to that

1220
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand people? You just performed it? Because I

1221
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: just seen you perform in front of twenty two thousand

1222
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: people and they was damn near falling out the raptors,

1223
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: So obviously they not the best on Instagram talking shit.

1224
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: It's easy to talk shit on Instagram. You could be

1225
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: a sixteen year old kid in Nova Scotia. Shay Shay,

1226
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 3: you ain't shit you. It's easy to talk shit on Instagram.

1227
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: For me, I've never seen somebody's post and been enthused

1228
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 3: to talk shit to somebody because my life is doing good.

1229
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: If I got a negative comment about you, it's just

1230
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: in my mind. Man, I'm a crazy man. But for

1231
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 3: me to actually type that shit on Instagram, that's letting

1232
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: me know that life got you on the button Necker

1233
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 3: Russian head lock. It's kicking your ass because I don't

1234
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: think about if I thought something negative. It's just funny

1235
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: to me. Yo, man, I'm a funny man. You be crazy, man.

1236
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm not typing that on Instagram because you don't or

1237
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: a person don't concern me enough that I would take

1238
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 3: time to write a negative something about somebody on social media.

1239
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: That's taking too much time out of my life. I

1240
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: got real ship going on. I have an energy drink

1241
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 3: that's the official sports drink of the Philadelphia seventy six

1242
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: ers in the Chicago sky PERREI few hold away, I'll.

1243
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: Break dance on your tongue.

1244
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: You know you know what I mean. So for me,

1245
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 3: I got too much shit going on to concern myself

1246
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: with writing a negative comment about somebody. You know what

1247
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: I mean. It's it's just not in my I don't

1248
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: understand that.

1249
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: Jay Z tried to sign you, and you try to

1250
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: tie you and your group off with your twelve point

1251
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: What are points in the rat How.

1252
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 3: Do you know about this ship? Number one? Who you

1253
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: have some you got some good?

1254
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: We gotta look here. If you you know this, yes,

1255
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: you put a team together. If you can't trust your

1256
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: team implicitly, you need to get a new team.

1257
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolute point. It's like you know when you when

1258
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 3: you how many records you sell, how much money you're

1259
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 3: gonna get on the back end residual.

1260
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: Or it's not like the point you're not gonna get

1261
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: against Brannie, Right, Okay, you was here point.

1262
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: So so back in the day, Hove tried to sign

1263
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: my group major figures. It wasn't just Over, it was

1264
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: Dame Dash, it was Rocketfella. You know. I didn't feel

1265
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: as though that the contract was right, so I didn't

1266
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: accept it, you know what I mean. Yes, I did

1267
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: a solo deal with Tony Draper and swave House is

1268
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: a great friend to this day. Two other artists that

1269
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: was on major figures, Dutchy Spade, they went over the

1270
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 3: Entertainment Another artist that was on major figures.

1271
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: At LoVa, he went over to Doctor Dre.

1272
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: So we kind of had this Optimus prom thing going

1273
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: on where everybody could go get their own money on

1274
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: a solo thing. Then we're gonna do the group together.

1275
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: Jay and Dame came back with the offer. I didn't

1276
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: like the offer. I thought it was a slave deal.

1277
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: I thought we would have to sell a catrillion records

1278
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 3: to make some money. So I turned it down. And

1279
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: that was the situation.

1280
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 5: But what transpired after.

1281
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: That, I mean some things, you know, some things were

1282
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: said about making it difficult for you know, for.

1283
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: For you there to be in this game, you know,

1284
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: But does that happen a lot. If you were a

1285
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: fus side with someone, it's like, Okay, you're done. You're

1286
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: you're not gonna work in innustry.

1287
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 3: That happens a lot in this game, you know, especially

1288
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: to a young kid that got talent that's younger naive.

1289
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: You're like, man, what do you mean You're gonna make

1290
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: it difficult? I believe in God niggas shut up, but

1291
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: about the reality of it is is that they can

1292
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 3: make it difficult for you. You got to understand. Waler used

1293
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: to be Walla was in jail, right, and he used

1294
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: to call home and I used to say, because they

1295
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: blackballing me man, And I didn't know that he thought

1296
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: that I was full of shit until he came home.

1297
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: And then we would bump into people and they would

1298
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: tell us, like now Gilly was on the list that like,

1299
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: you got to understand shout out the spher sounds.

1300
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: You gotta understand.

1301
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: I did a because I was talented. People didn't want

1302
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 3: to block me, so he brought me up to MTV.

1303
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: Did a.

1304
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: I was on MTV.

1305
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: I did an interview on MTV and the interview was

1306
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: so powerful that they got a call from Universal said

1307
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: you'll never get an exclusive again. Wow, if you interview me,

1308
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm just a kid just trying to get on. You

1309
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 3: gotta understand. I'm in a car. I'm on my way

1310
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 3: to fifty cent house because fifty cent went to sign me.

1311
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: Shout out to fifty you know what I mean.

1312
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 3: And Uh, I'm in a truck with Cosmic keV shout

1313
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: out the biggest DJ from Philadelphia and he calls DJ

1314
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 3: called and uh, he says, man, Gilly got this record

1315
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: that's move and how it says here, Gilly, I see

1316
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: the record is moving the old you know, always fake

1317
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: shit and then says, are you still beefing with Little Wayne?

1318
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: Though I said, what does they have to do with you? Man?

1319
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: First of all, Wayne diss me. Right, anybody I ever

1320
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: had an issue with they started this shit. I never

1321
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: start nothing. I mind my business. Anybody know Gilly sit around,

1322
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: he smoking weedy work, he doers work, and he mind

1323
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: his business. Anybody I ever had an issue withever they

1324
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,480
Speaker 3: started this ship with me. It's just that I'm ultra aggressive.

1325
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 3: So then when I come back, it's like, damn, that

1326
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: was crazy. Like no, if I'm getting in the ring

1327
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 3: with you, bro, I'm not throwing jabs. I'm throwing jabs

1328
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: and hooks and up because I'm trying to get you

1329
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: out of here right. So for me, there's always just

1330
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: been I mind my business with me. Then you did

1331
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 3: would come with that, you know what I mean. But

1332
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 3: back when I was speaking on because you got me off,

1333
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 3: just got damn con yac.

1334
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 5: It kind of fresh, your good smooth.

1335
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna see you with a bottles.

1336
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: Let you celebrate them smooth through my thought process. Get

1337
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 3: you with that ship. Yeah, man, shout out to this stuff.

1338
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: Man shaved by Laportier shaved by to take something. It's

1339
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: a bsop to drinks like an x soll and.

1340
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: The ship smooth too.

1341
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: You sneak up on you, fucking run up on you

1342
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: like a bank robber.

1343
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 5: So Jay signed, he signed h State Property instead of you.

1344
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: Yes, they well they had once and got the deal

1345
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: and then we didn't sign the deal, so they had

1346
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: to deal when on around. So they put some guys

1347
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: together from Philly. It made it happen and shout out

1348
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: to State Property all of them. It's my guys.

1349
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: When you signed with Suave House Records, did you have

1350
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: to move to Houston, nah.

1351
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 3: Nah and shout out to Tony Draper, the really CEO

1352
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 3: that I ever met.

1353
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: In the game.

1354
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: You know, I went down there and uh, you know,

1355
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: Drake was the first person that showed me that this

1356
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 3: rap shit was real.

1357
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 5: Drake Drake.

1358
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 3: Oh Drake. Okay, Okay, Tony Drake, because I got this Houston,

1359
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: and you know, he set me up nice. He had

1360
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: the car picked me up from the airport and I

1361
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: get to his house and the gates opening. Oh oh,

1362
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 3: he got all the cards. Line we're talking about vipers

1363
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: would zip up windows and yeah here, I'm straight from

1364
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 3: North Philly. I'm like, what the the Bens and the

1365
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: Rover and the Viper and the Bentley and and then

1366
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 3: he come out and it's glowing like I don't know

1367
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 3: if the was doing skinned regiments back then, the nigga

1368
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 3: was glowing so but it's nineteen. He looked like he

1369
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: was he was floating to him like that's what Black

1370
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 3: Excellence looked like. You know what I mean. Yes, he's like,

1371
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 3: come on in and the fish tank, built a wall

1372
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: houses of maculate. This looked like maids clean as every hour,

1373
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 3: and you know, and then he took me over to

1374
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 3: the studio house. It's another Maculin And it was just like,

1375
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: oh shit, you know what I mean, you can really

1376
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: make money from this show. Okay, you know what I'm

1377
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: because I didn't grow up a rapper. I didn't even

1378
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 3: have cable TV growing up. I never seen no rap videos.

1379
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 3: I had one dream to go to the NBA. That's it.

1380
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 3: I started rapping in college, playing around. We just used

1381
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: to smoke some weed. My man he had a little radio,

1382
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 3: had a mic, he plays some beats. We say anything,

1383
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 3: we busting out laughing. Then one day we was like,

1384
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna write something. I wrote a rap. We came back,

1385
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 3: I recorded it. They never They was like, yo, you

1386
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: never thought about rapping. I'm saying. I'm saying shit like this,

1387
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 3: misstop playing. I ain't another ass rapping man. Fuck as

1388
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 3: you're talking about me, and stop playing man. Because I

1389
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 3: didn't look at rapping as being a cool thing. I

1390
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: just looked at it as just some funthing to do. Right.

1391
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 3: And then when I come home that summer, that's when

1392
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: the robbery happened. That's when I get kicked out of college.

1393
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: And that one rap that I had was better than

1394
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: anybody that I came across who had a thousand raps. Wow,

1395
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: my one rap was better than any rap that they could.

1396
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 3: You gotta understand. I had four songs out. The fourth

1397
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 3: song I ever made was number one on the Countdown

1398
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 3: on Power ninety nine in Philadelphia, the biggest radio station.

1399
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 9: So they're like the number two song, Destiny's Child, and

1400
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 9: then they're like number one and I got I got

1401
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 9: a bidding war between every record label, Death, Champ, Priority, Allenic.

1402
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: Tony Draper didn't come on to the end, and I

1403
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:20,919
Speaker 3: might got twelve raps, literally like, I went to the studio.

1404
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: The song was called Love for Gilly. I went to

1405
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 3: the studio and I was like, what I'm gonna rap about?

1406
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 3: And the guy was like, Marcus Graham, who is my

1407
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 3: manager at the time, said well, he wasn't really my

1408
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: manager because he just was somebody that was just rolling

1409
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 3: what he said, make a song about what you got

1410
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: loved for, make a song about what you don't got

1411
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: love for. And I was like, Okay, that's cool. This

1412
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: is nineteen ninety six and I just wanted a studio

1413
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I got love for Thug and Thug, Missus, Marijuana, Smoke,

1414
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: Mo Pappas and don Zippers drug dealers, credit card counterfeit us,

1415
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: locked up in all of my broke. I got love

1416
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: for wild parties and wild bodies, sweaters by money, kill

1417
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: us like John Gotti, bad women in short dressers with

1418
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: huge bresses, the buggy yard bens with the triple headresses.

1419
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 3: It's my time to shine. You know I'm going blind.

1420
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: And Gilly got loved for other baby moms. And what

1421
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: if heating on little Gilly was a crime. It be

1422
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 3: no men left here. They all get the death chair

1423
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: in the top three. But I might be the best

1424
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: head low Rugby Timberlin's in My Guests where this is

1425
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six. I don't even know how to rap.

1426
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 3: Put it, motherfucker, said, said, Go in the booth and

1427
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 3: write a song about what you got loved for and

1428
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: what you don't got loved for. Okay, that's easy. I

1429
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 3: know what I got loved for what I don't got

1430
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 3: love for, and then that song is number one on account.

1431
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 3: So when you got there was a ball MJG. You

1432
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: Rockey boy, MJG. Was there, Ross was there? Ain't was

1433
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: tough line at the time, Yes, damn.

1434
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: Then you signed with cash money, got in the band

1435
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: for two a k right, yep, but you never released

1436
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: a song.

1437
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: Why Because this is how I got signed with Cash Money.

1438
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: It was a show at the First at the First

1439
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: Union side. I think it's called the Wells Fargan right,

1440
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 3: and I was supposed to perform. Rockefeller was performing at

1441
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: the time. Me and Beanie and Rockefeller, Beanie Siegel are

1442
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 3: clicking his click at went through something, so Rockefeller made

1443
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: the call and got it meet off the off the show.

1444
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: Baby heard about that and was coming a few weeks

1445
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: later and put me on the Cash Money Show.

1446
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: When I came out, they watching.

1447
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 3: When I'm walking off the stage, Baby say say, bruh,

1448
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 3: if you want to come to Cash Money, I got

1449
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 3: ask for your brother. At the time, I was in

1450
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: a contract. I was still was in a contract with

1451
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: Tony Draper. But Tony Draper, like I said, he was

1452
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: like my brother. He was like a old debreak.

1453
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: Gave me the game.

1454
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: So I called him. I said, yo, man, I'm trying

1455
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 3: to do this, go on this one, and he said

1456
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: all right. If that's the situation. He was in breach

1457
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: of contract, so I could have just left right, but

1458
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: he was so real to me that I said, you

1459
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: know what this is what I'm gonna do. I know

1460
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: how bad they want me, I'm gonna get them to

1461
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 3: pay you as well as give me an advance to

1462
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: get me out of the deal. And that's what happened.

1463
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: So then they wanted me, so they re up and

1464
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 3: did the deal. After we did the deal, they wanted

1465
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: my publishing. But the number they was trying to get

1466
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: me for my publishing and the number that I was

1467
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 3: asking for it was two different things.

1468
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: So they never was able.

1469
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: But to get my publishing, we talking about a record

1470
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: label that owned everything.

1471
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 5: So he was like, nah, I can't do that.

1472
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: No, And so if they got everybody else's publishing on

1473
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: the label, and it's like I'm coming in. I'm from Philly.

1474
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 3: Now you can't get my unpublishing. So it's like, Okay,

1475
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 3: put him on the back bone. He gonna break, but

1476
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna break.

1477
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 5: So what is publishing? That means you own? Yes, so

1478
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 5: you own the record for yeah?

1479
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: If so, if you write a record, you get a

1480
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,959
Speaker 3: percentage of the record. Okay, if you don't own a publishing,

1481
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: you don't get no percentage of the record. So if

1482
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: this record plays for twenty years, thirty years, they make

1483
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: money for thirty years and you get none nothing. So

1484
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: they didn't want you to have anything. They didn't want

1485
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: you to have.

1486
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 5: The publishing.

1487
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: They wanted you to give up your entire right to

1488
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: the publishing nothing. Yeah, yeah, you did it right, You

1489
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: did it right by that? What what what have you

1490
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: learned or what did you learn or how have you

1491
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 1: learned about the music industry?

1492
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: I learned that all of that ship is fake, really, yes,

1493
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: all of it. That's why I don't go to no

1494
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: parties because all of it is fake. All of it

1495
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: is a bunch of fluff. All this is a bunch

1496
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: of drunks lying to each other. Now we're gonna get

1497
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: together Maine. Yeah, baby, I ain't got your number. Shut up.

1498
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: You ain't got to lie to me no more. I'm rich.

1499
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm tracking you now and I might

1500
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: buy a bastards. You ain't got to lie to me

1501
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: no more. I don't see. You got to understand. I'm

1502
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 3: this mother, right. They call us right, they say, Gilly,

1503
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 3: we want to invite you to the Rock Nation runch.

1504
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 3: I'm the nigga that said why would I want to come?

1505
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you want to come? I said, you want

1506
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: me to keep it real with you. You want me

1507
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 3: to lie to you?

1508
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 5: Keep it a buck?

1509
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 3: I said, the Rock Nation brunch ain't of nothing but

1510
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: jay Z putting a bunch of on the lawn and

1511
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: then going in the back door and saying, I told

1512
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: you I still run this shit.

1513
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Give me the money.

1514
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: Wow, you think I'm letting it use my brand? Huh?

1515
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 3: See rich like does yeah?

1516
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, see you that I got.

1517
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: This shit from Rustle in the night. But I'll be

1518
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 3: seeing the rich shit like this. You know they get

1519
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 3: a little money. These cross their legs and shit. That's

1520
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: all this is, man. Let's keep it real. I got

1521
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: I work, I beree with twenty six mejor brands. You

1522
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 3: think I don't know what branding is. Come on, we

1523
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 3: don't work from New Hampshondam Vodka, Manscape, Harriet Raizors, Romance Swipes,

1524
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: you name them. They come to million dollars worth a

1525
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: game because we move a needle. I don't let nobody

1526
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: allow to use my brand with their brand. What do

1527
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 3: you get from going to these parties except for a picture.

1528
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't even smile with you if you ain't worth

1529
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: five hundred million or more. Let's be for real. Don'tly smiling.

1530
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 3: They do us when the billionaires in the picture. Look

1531
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 3: at all these broke ASDs on the low. Mo, man,

1532
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: I ain't with none of that shit. I don't want

1533
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: to party with you. I built a weight for myself.

1534
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 3: I made a way for myself. I made my own way,

1535
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 3: me and God man. So I don't want to kick

1536
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 3: it with you. I don't want to do nothing. I

1537
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: want to stay in my own world, smoke my weed

1538
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 3: and make my content and keep kicking your glasses. That's

1539
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: what I like to do.

1540
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 5: The beef with you and hand with Wayne? How did

1541
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 5: that come to bout it?

1542
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: It was never no beef. It was just a misunderstanding.

1543
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 3: He disrespected me on the record. I responded, that was all.

1544
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: I got a lot of love for Wayne. Shout out

1545
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: to him. Man, y'all cool now, Yeah, I'm cool with everybody.

1546
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 5: Don't seem like you're cool with everybody.

1547
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't have no issues with anybody. I

1548
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 3: just I'm forty eight years old. I ain't got now,

1549
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 3: I ain't got time for the dumb shit, and I

1550
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 3: ain't got time for trying to trick a nigga out

1551
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: of position to make your brain look good. Okay, forty

1552
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 3: eight years old, Man, I got I got, I got

1553
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: kids that graduated college. Man, were trying to do great things. Man,

1554
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,520
Speaker 3: I ain't I got grandkids.

1555
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: Man, that's the second time in three days I heard

1556
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: somebody say that. Masterpiece said that on our live show

1557
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: the other night. He said, Man, you gotta be careful

1558
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: because people are trying to trick you out of your position.

1559
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so, I don't want to come kick it with nobody.

1560
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: I like to stay in my world because I understand

1561
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: one thing. Who seven years back one trying to kick

1562
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: it with me. Come on, mane now I developed the lane.

1563
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 3: God said, you never gave up. These had you doing

1564
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: security at ross right now point. So the irregular polo

1565
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 3: ts you never gave up. Now understand that all the

1566
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: money for years, guess what they is burnt the out.

1567
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: I gotta recharge your fresh pack of six pack of

1568
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 3: deep batteries in my back. I'm gonna run these in

1569
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: the you me yes, in the whole. And I told

1570
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 3: you before, I'm coming to buy a couple of year masters.

1571
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 5: You ain't gonna do it like that craziest ship.

1572
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 3: I'm coming to. They're gonna get paid, But my family

1573
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 3: gonna eat off you for the rest of your existence

1574
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: and even when you ain't even here. That's my goal

1575
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: in life. It's too I gotta buy their masters. You're

1576
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: gonna do you feel some type of way? Huh No,

1577
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: they gonna get a shipload of money, but they want

1578
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: to own your life for the forever. I don't want

1579
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: your kids to eat off this ship. I want my

1580
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: kids to eat off this ship because you didn't want

1581
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 3: to see me. So it's even exchange. He ain't no robber.

1582
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 3: You're getting a shipload of money. Man, I'll do some

1583
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, say, how what you want for that shit?

1584
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 3: Off of them?

1585
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Ten more million than what he won?

1586
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Wow, get the masters.

1587
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 5: Let me ask your question.

1588
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cash money model, the bird Man, I mean

1589
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: he had them all. Yes, I mean he had the

1590
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 1: rap game. There was a stretch for about a decade. Yes,

1591
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: he cornered the market.

1592
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I admire about bird Man,

1593
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: and everybody know, I don't really with him like that,

1594
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 3: but I'm real his hustle, Okay, I ain't no gonna

1595
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: un hustle. He gonna hustle. See that's the that's what

1596
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: That's what people don't understand. They think, Oh, you got

1597
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: to be the smartest person here. You gotta head. No,

1598
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: you gotta do is hustle. And when God think that

1599
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 3: door show open for you, gonna open it for you. Right,

1600
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: So nobody is you gotta understand. I wasn't around cash

1601
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 3: money for four years. Man. We used to wait up,

1602
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 3: go to the studio, hustle all day, leave, go to

1603
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: the club, leave the club at two o'clock and go

1604
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: back to the studio and be there at eight in

1605
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 3: the morning, and then wake up at one and we

1606
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: right back in the studio. So the one thing I

1607
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: did understand from cash money, and I did learn from

1608
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 3: cash money is that you got to hustle different if

1609
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: you really want to win out here.

1610
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 5: So if you want to be different, you got to

1611
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 5: hustle them.

1612
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely. But what to ask you this, gilly? You can

1613
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: help me, because why is it that all?

1614
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: But when when you get money, people always think you

1615
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: did something seed where you the illuminati or you you?

1616
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: You you are what the gatekeeping? Oh here's an overnight success.

1617
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: But nobody sees, nobody cares to know the grind or

1618
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: see the grind. All they see is the success and

1619
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: think and think it happened overnight, And I get that.

1620
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I get upset because, like, hold on, what about the

1621
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: ten years I was on CDs? What about the seven

1622
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: years I was on Fox?

1623
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 5: So how's that? If that's seventeen years, how's it overnight?

1624
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1625
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: What you see is overnight. I saw the seventeen year grind.

1626
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's how it is for me. You got

1627
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 3: to understand what million dollars worth of game I was

1628
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 3: giving out me? And I was worth a game in

1629
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, while those didn't come home to twenty seventeen.

1630
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 3: So every day I would wake up and get a

1631
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 3: youth game. Let me give y'all, and I was worth

1632
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 3: a game even when it was the videos was fifteen seconds.

1633
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 3: I would give them something they could hold on to.

1634
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: You'll give a million dollar of a game when it's

1635
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: only five dollars, right, Why did you come up with

1636
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: that name?

1637
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 5: Me and all with a game?

1638
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 3: Well? Always that was always one of my sayings, Like

1639
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 3: it's a video of me Meek in a black de

1640
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 3: Niro in the studio in two thousand and nine, and

1641
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 3: I said, I give to me, and I was worth

1642
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 3: a game for free. Y'all, Just don't be listening I

1643
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 3: got an album called Million Dollars Worth a game that

1644
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 3: I dropped in twenty fifteen. So that's always been one

1645
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 3: of my sayings because I always felt like I'd be

1646
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 3: given the game and they don't be listening, you know

1647
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. And so when I decided to get

1648
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 3: a youth game, I said, man, let me give them

1649
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 3: some game, whereas though they could it's rolling that cup,

1650
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 3: but they'd be able to digest it. Right.

1651
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1652
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1653
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to Part one on. Just

1654
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see

1655
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: you there.