1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hello, listeners of the Therapy Gecko podcast. Welcome. My name 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: is Lyle. I'm a gecko human guy thing person. I'm 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: a man. I'm in a gecko suit. It's really hot. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: I'm in a park in New York City. There's a 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: lot of people around this park, and I want to 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: talk to them. I want to get lost in conversation. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I need to exit my own brain. I need to 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: be in life. I need to be I'm attempting to 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: get into the flow state today by talking to people 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: about their lives. So this is going to be a 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: no phone call episode. It's going to be an in 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: real life episode for those who are unfamiliar. Real life 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: is that when you have a conversation with someone and 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: there's no technology involved in the interface between the two people. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Direct from one person's mouth into my ear, my mouth 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: into their ear, and then yes, through technology into your ears. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: So we're in Washington Square Park, New York City. That's it. 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. Let's talk to some people. Hey, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: what's up, man, what's going on? What's your name? 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Archie? 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: Archie. Nice to meet you, Archie. That's your day going. 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Things are good? Things are good, very nice. Why are 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: things good? 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: I think things have are very stable, things are serene, 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: things are predictable, things are easy. 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Have they always been that way? 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: No? 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm so please please hit me, so things are hold on. 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I just want to recount they were there, stable, serene, 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: and predictable, and they were not always this way. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I think I guess what do I 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: think there's several reasons why they haven't always been this way. 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: First off, I'm just entering a point in my life where, 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: you know, I have like a job that's like a 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: career job, so I'm like working on that great and 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: like showing up to work every like showing up to 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: work and just sort of being a worker and enjoying 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: that part of life. I also think that, like, you know, 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: so that's like I guess the like everyone gets to 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: a point in their life where like stuff gets predictable 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: in that way. Sure, but you know my life used 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: to be I'm someone who is like so prone to chaos. Yeah, 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: Like I love working in the gig economy. I love 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: I love living a life where it's like I could 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: go from like very high highs to like deep cavernous crashes. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: So sort of not being on that for like kind 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: of the first time in my life feels pretty wonderful. 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Interesting, And uh, what how did that change? 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: How did that change? 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Like did you just gotta you just got a job 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: that's more predictable? 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 4: Well, I think, okay, So there's like I I got 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: sober four years ago, So I guess that was like 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: one of the first things that like sort of was 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: like a bid to make my life more stable. 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: What it inspired you to get sober? 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: Uh? 59 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: Mainly because I was gonna die. Yeah, I was like 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: pretty sure I was gonna die, either from drugs or 61 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: just killing myself. 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. 63 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: Can I ask what drugs? You were addicted to a whole. 64 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 4: Lot of things most most of everything, uh, but primarily 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: like and means, uh, loved ketamine, loved drinking, Yeah, love 66 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: smoking weed. 67 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: What were you and you're now you're you're gone from 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: all those you don't smoke, you don't drink, you know, 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: And were you like trying to get away from something? 70 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: I think I well, I mean getting away from myself. 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: My friend actually sent me something recently that's like the addict, 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: Like the addict lives away from oneself. Yeah, so I 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: was completely empty internally, because my entire life has just 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: been just bids to try to get away from what 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: it's like being inside of myself. 76 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said some There was a kid 77 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: who just sat down before you and uh, he was like, 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: how you doing? And I was like, I'm gonna tell 79 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: him the truth, and I was like, I just went 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: in to buy a Nintendo Switch to feel something. 81 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: And then I was like, does that ever happen to you? 83 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: And he was like nah, he walked away, and I 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I think I was doing that to 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: try to get away from myself. I mean I've done 86 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: that with like drugs too. But I was like, yeah, 87 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm just always I'm familiar with the idea of like 88 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to get away from yourself in some sense, 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: and then you want to try to make what's the 90 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: what's the process for you been like off trying to 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: make your brain a place where you don't want to 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: get away from. 93 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's I think part of it's 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: my environment, like figuring out, like you know, what what 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: do I really like what makes me whole? What are 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: the things in my life that like I need to 97 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: like feel complete and for me that's like I'm an extrovert. 98 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: I love being around people. I charge around people. So 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: I think that's one thing that I like try my 100 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: best to like make attempts to like constantly feed that 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: part of myself. And then also just like you know, 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: they're just some things in my life that just make 103 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: me happy. And if I can like do those with 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: some frequency, I'm happy. 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: What are those things? 106 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: Let's see, I'm a professional yoyaer, so yeah, it's my 107 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: favorite thing in the world. I love to yo yo, 108 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: I love yoyo wing. And that's just something that like 109 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: sort of in a very uncontroversial, easy way makes me happy. 110 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: I play a lot of magic gathering, started getting back 111 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: into that, starting to crack open my dungeons and dragons, 112 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: hyper fixation, Like all of those things like make me 113 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: happy in a very just like easy way, and they 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: also all involve community and like the sort of larger 115 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: more conceptual ideas as to like what makes me feel whole. 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh I love that. I love that so much. 117 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: So was it hard getting sober? Uh? 118 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: I think the uh getting sober was hard. Staying sober 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: has been harder. Yeah, yeah, I think staying sober is 120 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: a lot of maintenance. And it's a lot of things 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: that I'm not always especially when things are like fine. 122 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: It's just things that I'm not always like super inclined 123 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: to do. 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Like what. 125 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: Without getting too into the details of what I do, 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: I think, you know, like there's a lot of things like, uh, 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: I'm trying not to like break my animinity on a 128 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: very specific thing, but uh. 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: I do appreciate. 130 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: I have to, like, you know, keep in touch with 131 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: people who are part of my support system, which is 132 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: something I'm not always like inclined to do. If things 133 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: are going well, I have to like make sure that 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: I'm being of service to other people. And like I 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: work as like a mental health and substance abuse counselor so, 136 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: like I'm around early early addiction all the time, and 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: like it's easy for me to like stay in the 138 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: mindset of like, oh, this is something I should obviously 139 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: stay away from, but it's very easy for me to 140 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: focus just on their problems and like completely forget about 141 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: the fact that I suffer from the exact same problems. 142 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: I'm just several years separated from those problems. Yeah, yeah, 143 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: can I ask how old you are? 144 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm twenty three years old. 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Cool, and so you got sober when you were in nineteen. 146 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: I got sober when I was nineteen, and. 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were mainly like in your addiction phase 148 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: when you were like a kid. 149 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 150 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: No, I started using when I was like thirteen fourteen, 151 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: and then things got bad around sixteen. And you know, 152 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: like I am that, I am someone who like crashes 153 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: very quickly, So I knew I was an addict probably 154 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: by the time I was fifteen years old, and like 155 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: was like very aware of that fact about myself and 156 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: my my dad's been sober for years, so I've just 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: been sort of always aware of the fact that like 158 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: drug addiction and getting sober is something that I either 159 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: would deal with or just have to do at some 160 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: point in my life. And it was almost like an 161 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: aspiration growing up because I was like, oh, I feel 162 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: so terrible inside of my unmedicated, sober self that like 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: obviously makes sense that I'd like, you know, like this 164 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: is the thing that's gonna work for me. And it 165 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: did for like years, like drinking drugs that absolutely worked 166 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: for me, until it stopped working for me. And like 167 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: once it stops, like things got you know, things just 168 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: it was bad already but you start to see how 169 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: bad things are, and like I was just lucky enough 170 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: to like see it enough that I had the moment 171 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: to be like, all right, I'm done, Like I'm out, 172 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: Like I can't do this anymore. 173 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: And so what's your what's kind of your dreams for 174 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the future? Man? 175 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: What are my dreams for the future. Well, there's like 176 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: big dreams and small dreams, right, And I'm trying to 177 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: like let go of the idea of like you see, 178 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: I don't know what my life's going to be. I 179 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: don't really want to know what my life's gonna be. 180 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: I've completely bought out of I've fired myself as like 181 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: the arbiter of my own future. Sure, I just want 182 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: to be a person who helps other people. I want 183 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: to be kind to other people and whatever that leads 184 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: me to whatever vehicle in my life that allows me 185 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: to do that most effectively. I would like to continue 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: doing that. But I also would like to make finals 187 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: at the national yoyo contest next year. So that's a 188 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: more like that's a more physical dream that we can 189 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: point at. 190 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so great, do you have like a like can 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: people follow you if they want to see your yo yo? 192 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 193 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: They can. 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: My instagram is a finite wizard, so like a wizard 195 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: with limited capabilities. 196 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: The finite wizard. 197 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: Finite wizard. Yeah, not that, but just finite finite wizard, 198 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: yeah wizard. 199 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: And how did you get into yo yo ing? I 200 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: feel that's very niche. 201 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. I got into yo ing when I was 202 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: twelve years old. I my little brother like got one, 203 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: and I like picked it up and I was like, oh, 204 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: this is kind of cool. And I looked it up 205 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: on YouTube and I saw this yoyo er named Andrew Mader, 206 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: who was the second best yoyoer in the United States 207 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: in the year twenty fifteen. And I saw a video 208 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: of him yo yo ing online and for some reason, 209 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: something clicked to my head where it's like, if I 210 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: can do this, if I can do what he's doing, 211 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna like, I'm gonna be so happy with myself. 212 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna feel so whole with who I am as 213 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: a person. And something about just the hobby made so 214 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: much sense to me. 215 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about I have you ever 216 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: seen the yo yo ball? 217 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: The yo yo ball? 218 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 219 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: How what do you feel about? 220 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: Yoyo ball? 221 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: Is bullshit? Fake ass? 222 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: Yo yo, fake ass yo yo, get a real yo yo, 223 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: learn some tricks. 224 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 225 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I used to love the 226 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: yoyo ball because it's like the yo yo, but it's 227 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: like it's like if a yo at training wheel. 228 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: Yes, no, exactly, exactly yeah. Yeah. 229 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Now do you have like a particular color of yoyo 230 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: that you like or do you like the like what 231 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: is it? What's the word for it? The ones that 232 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: you went yo? You know, the shit you scratch and 233 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: it makes like a DJ sound. 234 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, uh, well, there's the one I have. 235 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: So I have a signature colorway of a yo yo 236 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: that's just silver with kiss prints on it. Cool, but 237 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: I like on stage, I like using raw yo yo's 238 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: or like silver yoyo's like raw analyzed because I think 239 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: it looks really good. But otherwise I like using like 240 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: I just like any color that's pretty. I don't like 241 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: anything too busy. I like things that are simple but 242 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: also pretty. My friend Remy made a yoyo with like 243 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: that looks like an Italian espresso machine with like red 244 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: caps and stuff. 245 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: It's cool. 246 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, cool, cool man, that's awesome. So so you 247 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: work as as an addiction counselor yes, I do. What 248 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: kinds of things do you do to kind of help 249 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: other people who are dealing with what you deal with? 250 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: So my job, like ninety percent of my job is 251 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: so I work at at a pretty low level position. 252 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 4: I sort of just started my job sort of. I'm 253 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: like a concierge for people that live in a sober 254 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: living home. So my job is just to sort of 255 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: help people on like a day to day basis, whether 256 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, just the nuts and bold stuff 257 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: like handing out medication, you know, like conducting your an 258 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: analysis tests all that stuff, making sure that the clients 259 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: are safe. But in like a larger level, ninety five 260 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: percent of my job is helping people who have lived 261 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: a very isolated life find a form of community. Sure, 262 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: because community is like if you are trying to get sober, 263 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: trying to make a major change in your life, I 264 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: think like getting a community that's based on accountability and 265 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: like working together is like gonna get you eighty percent 266 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: of the way there for like maintaining sobriety. 267 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: That feels so nice. 268 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah we're getting hit by a little wave of a 269 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: win from the fountain. 270 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. 271 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Community is really important. I mean, that's why like AA 272 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: and all that stuff is very popular. Were you ever 273 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: into any of those things? 274 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 275 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 4: No, I guess I'll just say I attend to A frequently. 276 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: It's like a super helpful program for me. It's like 277 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 4: how I found the community that like help's where I 278 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: found a lot of good friends. It's where I've found 279 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: this sort of like guidebook to what helps me stay 280 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: sober one day at a time. 281 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: What is the like, do you follow the twelve steps? 282 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: I do, follow the twelve steps. I've done the twelve steps. 283 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: I take guys through the twelve steps. Yeah, what do you? 284 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 7: Uh uh? 285 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: What are the twelve steps? 286 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: The twelve steps are essentially a loose collection of suggestions 287 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 4: designed to basically like give someone like a rubric for 288 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: like what they need to do to like make a 289 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: like start sustained change in their life. So it starts 290 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: with it's sort of none of them. It's not actually 291 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: AA's own thing, like it sort of is like a 292 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: mishmash of like things from various religions and various different 293 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 4: sort of like spiritual movements up until the nineteen thirties. 294 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: So it starts with just like admitting you have a problem, 295 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 4: and then it starts with like admitting that you are 296 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 4: not going to be the one to solve that problem, 297 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: and then it sort of goes into I'm not gonna 298 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: go into the whole details about it. Probably I shouldn't 299 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: have even said I was in AA, because like that's 300 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 4: part of it. 301 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: But well, you're allowed to say you're in it. 302 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm allowed to say him in it. 303 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I am, But like you know, I just 304 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: I think part of it is that, like I'd never 305 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: want to be a spokesperson for something that like, uh, 306 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 4: well I view you right. 307 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Now as being a spokesperson for yourself. 308 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am, And AA works for me. It has 309 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: been the best thing ever for me. It's awesome. Yeah, 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: it's I've met some people who it doesn't work for 311 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: and they have great sobriety and have been able to 312 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: find perfect lights. 313 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: But for me, it's been like the best thing that's 314 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: ever happened. 315 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really awesome. Yeah, so great. And I 316 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: I noticed you got a homie here. Who's Who's Who's 317 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: this good? 318 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: This is my buddy, Caleb Seneca. What's up? 319 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Very nice Caleb. How do you guys know each other? 320 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: Me and Caleb met on a modeling set three years ago. Yeah, okay, 321 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: and we fell off for two of those years, and 322 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: then we reconnected when we moved back into the city, 323 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: and uh we've been locked in ever since. 324 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: You're still a model uh here and there. 325 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 4: It's like my it's like a it's like a thing 326 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: I keep on the back burner always. 327 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: I enjoy the. 328 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: Job, it doesn't add too much stress to my life. 329 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: I'm apparently can still do it, so I enjoy it. 330 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: But that's not like my main thing I enjoy. 331 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: So you said that, like, yeah, that life is very 332 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: stable now in a way that it didn't used to be. 333 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: How are you enjoying that stability compared to what I 334 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: assume used to be a more chaotic way of living. 335 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: So, if I think of my life's sort of goal 336 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: and purpose to be as helpful as possible to other people, 337 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: when my life is stable, there's a lot less I 338 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: need to focus on. Like I'm not like constantly in 339 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: like in like need to fix everything mode with myself. 340 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: I need to just kind of like you know, like 341 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: uh let things, you know, I can like let things 342 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: sort of like work on their own in my own life, 343 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: and that allows me to like be of service to 344 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: other people in the best way possible. Like, you know, 345 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: like being able to show up for other people is 346 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: like one of the first steps like making me feel whole. 347 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: In what ways do you try to show up for 348 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: other people? 349 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I think so like my job obviously is 350 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: some level of showing up for other people, but that 351 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: also I'm paid for it, so that doesn't feel necessarily 352 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: like the same thing. But I think something as simple 353 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: as like, uh, I like so I in the yo 354 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: yoing community recently, I decided it'd be cool if I 355 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: like helped yooers pick out their outfits for when they 356 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: go on stage, like if there's like a big like 357 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: competitive aspect to it, and like that's been a really 358 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: cool process and it's a sort of like a dumb thing. 359 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: It's like it's objectively ridiculously silly, but it is fun 360 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: to like help people like, uh, you know, like look 361 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: the best they can and like feel really good in themselves. 362 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: So that's like been like a most recent example, but 363 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: also just like very simple things like you know, like 364 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: being able to be of counsel to my friends as one. 365 00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: But also just like. 366 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of small things that I 367 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: try to do, whether it's just like being there to 368 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: be just like a sounding board for my friends, or 369 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: being someone as simple as like if I'm able to 370 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: do something that my friend maybe can't do or is 371 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: in a position where like he just like physically can't 372 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: do except but work. Like recently, I'm in an apartment 373 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: hunt right now, so being able to, like, you know, 374 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: I have some free time during the day, so being 375 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: able to like go on those tours and like try 376 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: to be of service in that way, you know, it 377 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: sort of like comes up as super case by case. Yeah, dude, 378 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: it's been a really nice talking to you, really nice 379 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: talking to you. It is your name again, Archie. 380 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Archie, Archie. You've You've inspired me today. 381 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 382 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate I'm inspired by the positive outlook you have 383 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: on on on life and on yourself. And uh, I'm 384 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna try to take that with me beyond this conversation. 385 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, Thank you very much for anything else. 386 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to say to the people of the 387 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: computer before we go? 388 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: Let's see, Uh, you know, like today's beautiful day, every 389 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: day live, one day at a time. I don't know, 390 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: like that's the best way to do it live, one 391 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: day at a time. I appreciate it. Man, Thank you 392 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: so much. 393 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: Chie'll see you around the universe. 394 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: I see around the universe, dude, Thank you. 395 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Bye, Acchie. That was a good conversation. I enjoyed. Uh. 396 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed talking to him. I don't know if we're 397 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: trying to think if I have any post interview thoughts, 398 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, I was inspired by his message. I 399 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: love a good life transformation. I love a good before 400 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: and after, and I love that he's you know, keeping 401 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: on keeping on. Oh Hey, what's your name, man, James, James. 402 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. What's up? James? Has life going? 403 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: It's going well? Actually, yeah, tell me? Why tell me more. 404 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 6: I went out last night in Brooklyn. 405 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: It was fine. 406 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you get? Totally totally wasting. I was 407 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: having a good time, okay around. 408 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're filming a video for this dude's music. 409 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Wait you're oh, you're filming a video for which guy? 410 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: This is Jack? 411 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 412 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 413 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: This guy? 414 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: Oh? 415 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: What kind of music does he make? 416 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: Pop? 417 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: And you want to tell you want to talk about 418 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: your music? You said, think justin Timberlake and Perell. Okay, 419 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: what and so how do you know this guy through him? Okay, 420 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: my favorite. Just hold the mic. 421 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: He's my childhood best friend. 422 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay. 423 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 6: These are his friends from college. And I know was 424 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: this in the city and he was like, Yo, you're 425 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: in the city. Come come till we're gonna. 426 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 9: See this music video. 427 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: So what's the video about. 428 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 6: It's gonna be for his song. It's gonna be promoting 429 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 6: for a song. 430 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Jack, do you want to come talk? Yeah, 431 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: have a have a talk. Come, I have a seat, 432 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: we'll have the we'll have the We'll love the man himself. 433 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 6: Talk. 434 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, sir. 435 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 6: Yo. 436 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: What's up? 437 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 10: Man? 438 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: What's your name? 439 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 6: My name is Jack? 440 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: Jack. 441 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Nice to meet Oh Jack, youman favorite? Just hold the mic. 442 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Out of there we go. What's up? Jack has life? 443 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: So you got a whole, You got a whole You're 444 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: you got a whole entourage. 445 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 6: Man, we gotta we kind of put it team together. 446 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah what so who's who all is in the team? 447 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: Who are these guys? 448 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 449 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 6: You know, I'll make music. He makes it with me 450 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: as Zan Jake. So I like social media kind of 451 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: head guy Rocco's photography and co director. 452 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: You got a social media guy, You got a you 453 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: got a Roco on the team. 454 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's on me a long time to find somebody 455 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 6: named Roco. 456 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: But how did you build this whole entourage? 457 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: Fell together? Okay, I guess I don't know. 458 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: And how long have you been making music? 459 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: For? 460 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: As long as I can remember? Probably started it around 461 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 6: like twelve thirteen. 462 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice? And how's how's the lifestyle? 463 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 6: I'm exhausted. I live in Philly and I commute to 464 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 6: New York every day. 465 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh really, wait, why do you commute to New York 466 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: every day? 467 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: I worked? 468 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 6: I worked the studio job for a long time. Okay, 469 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: got a second job. I teach music in Brooklyn. 470 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Now, oh so nice. 471 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 6: So now I'm moving up here in about eight days. 472 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: Philly is a great city. 473 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: Man. 474 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: He used to live in Philly. You used to live 475 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: in Philly, Philly. I used to live in North Philly. 476 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I went to college at Temple University. 477 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: Oh damn. We went to Drexel. 478 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you went to Drexel. Okay, so you're in 479 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: there more than Debt, dude. Drexel is so expensive. It's 480 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: more expensive than like the IVY leagues. 481 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 6: It's crazy. And my program director is still talking about 482 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 6: budget cuts to me. 483 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: But so what is this video about today? 484 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 6: Colors, bright colors, outside. 485 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 8: Fun? 486 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: What what inspires your music? 487 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: I just like dancing, and I feel like people don't 488 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 6: play the kind of music that I like dancing to. 489 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: And it feels like we kind of used to have 490 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 6: a different vibe going on. A lot of people are 491 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 6: trying to bring back what's going on with like you know, 492 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 6: early two thousands hip hop R and B Phurrel Neptune's 493 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: kind of production, and that's the same thing we're doing. 494 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're trying to make So you're making the 495 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of music that I danced to at my bar 496 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: mitzvah kind of a thing. 497 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 6: That you know what, I'm gonna go with that? 498 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I like, well, no, you know what I mean, Like 499 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: like like I got a feeling like you're doing that. 500 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 6: I don't know less will I am or uh usher 501 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: all right, justin Timberlake, Okay, I don't know something like that. 502 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: So why why were you commuting for so long instead 503 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: of just moving? 504 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 3: Uh? 505 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: Because my rent was about to triple just for moving here. 506 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, but you got all these guys. You're not 507 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: living with these guys. 508 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 6: Oh, they're they're all aside from the Rocco unit, they're 509 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 6: all from Philly, so that we're moving. They all came 510 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 6: up on the train this morning. 511 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: Couldn't you guys all? I feel like, can't you guys 512 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: all just get one like giant ass place and each 513 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: pay like seven hundred or something. 514 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to work them into it. They 515 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 6: keep trying to tellbody they want to finish their degree. 516 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: But man, are you guys? You guys should drop out 517 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: dream you're only young ones. 518 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: I'm trying to say, yeah, he graduated though, so I 519 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 6: can't talk okay, And are you the only What are 520 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: your contemporaries doing? 521 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: What are your what are you peers doing? 522 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 6: What are my peers doing? 523 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 524 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 6: I got a roommate that works at Lockheed Martin full time. 525 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Now, okay, so you gotta make a living somehow. 526 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 6: I don't know he's making he's making a living off 527 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 6: the bombs. 528 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Very nice? Has a how's your love life going? 529 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm I'm a flying solo. I guess I don't know. 530 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 5: Have you? 531 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: I feel like just but just like, I don't know. 532 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: You're like a cool rapper guy? 533 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Do you not? 534 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: Does everyone not like is are there not a line 535 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: of people in love with you? 536 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 6: I would I would think going to a bar and saying, hey, 537 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 6: i'm a i'm a I'm ake I make beats, I 538 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: make music might not exactly be my my best my 539 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 6: best line being honest. Perhaps I've I've been told I've 540 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 6: been giving negative reviews. Wait tell me, have you have 541 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 6: you tried that? Have you been at have you been 542 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 6: at a bar? And you're like, oh, I make music. No, 543 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: It's more often, like I don't know, It's more often 544 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 6: somebody will kind of drag me into something. 545 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, dude, do I talk to him? He 546 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: makes music? 547 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 6: Should have a ball I have to pick up now? 548 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: Sure? 549 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, But that's but that's the best of both worlds, 550 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: right because you get to brag, but you also get 551 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: to be humble. 552 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: Is it bragging if it's like my third and fourth job? 553 00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 7: I think so? 554 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think so. I think that the fact 555 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: that you are doing something is inherently in and of 556 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: itself worth worth value. I appreciate that depending on whether 557 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean not not necessarily dependent on whether or not 558 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: you make money off of it. 559 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 6: Fair I appreciate that. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, don't know. 560 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 6: I'm not making money off YouTube for Spotify, I'll tell 561 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 6: you that. So are you all for the love of 562 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 6: it at this point? 563 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Are you going to miss Philadelphia? 564 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 6: Oh my god? Yeah, it's so much fun it is. 565 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 6: I grew up in Houston, so like, I've been in 566 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 6: the Northeast for like five years, and yeah, Philadelphia's got 567 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: so much character. I'm gonna miss it a lot. I 568 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 6: you know, beer tastes different in Philly. 569 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they got the city wise, they don't 570 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: really have a citywise. 571 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my thing. 572 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: The citywide is the beer. No, it's it's the shot 573 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: and then the beer. Yeah special. Yeah, and they'll do 574 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, little themes to it. So look Corona 575 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: tequila whatever. 576 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 577 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh, it's fun. 578 00:23:59,520 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: I like it. 579 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: What's what's next for you? 580 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 5: Man? 581 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: After your after after this music video? 582 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 6: Uh, I gotta get back home because I gotta move. 583 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get approved in an apartment and then 584 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 6: I'm moving. 585 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Up your solo that because do you know anyone else here? 586 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 6: I know a couple of people, but they all got 587 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 6: their own arrangements and nobody wants to live where I 588 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: want to live. 589 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: So where do you want where you're gonna live. 590 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be in Brooklyn, Okay, well, Bushwick probably Bedstark, that's. 591 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Why that's that's around where I'm at bedsty Dang. Man, 592 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of cicadas flying by all the time. 593 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 6: So you're looking for a roommates. 594 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I already live in a place. But if not, 595 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: you know you're supposed to come. I'll come over. We 596 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: can share a fridge, Okay. I can have some of 597 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the food that you put in your fridge sometimes and 598 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: then you can have my You have some of the food. 599 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I have some saracha sauce. That's all. It's in my fridge. Man, 600 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: my fridge is if you look, two beers and a fridge. No, 601 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: not too, it's two beers and a uh and sacha. 602 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, this guy just laughed a lot. Oh thanks 603 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: that guy. You know that guy is over there. 604 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 6: You got big fans. 605 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Well, what's your name again? 606 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: Jack? 607 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 7: Jack? 608 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 6: Jack? What? 609 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: Uh uh? 610 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 7: Jack? 611 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: Give me something for the universe, man, Something for the universe. 612 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: Mean something for the universe. You're an artist. You make music. 613 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Give us some hope, give us something. 614 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 6: For the universe. For the universe, it's crazy where the 615 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 6: Epstein files? 616 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Jack? 617 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: Is that your name? 618 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 8: Right? 619 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm horrible names. My brain well, my brain is melting. 620 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: But Jack, very nice to meet you. I'll see you 621 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: around the universe. And good luck, brother, I'll be checking 622 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: out you. You can plug yourself if you want. 623 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 6: My name is Jack Iris. I'll make music. I'm from Texas. 624 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 6: Uh if you like, you don't have to call about 625 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 6: usher and for h listen to me. Cool. 626 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: That's it, beautiful. Nice to meet you, man, see you 627 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: around the universe later on letter on good luck. I'll 628 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: see you guys of course. Bye, guys here, have a seat. 629 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: What's your name? Man, My name is Jason. Jason. What's up, Jason? Okay, Jason. 630 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: Before you sat down, you said I got a lot 631 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: to say. I have a lot of resentments. 632 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Now I just feel like anything you ask me, I 633 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: gotta answer for. 634 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything. This is a public park. 635 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: Oh you ask me anything, I gotta answer. 636 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you have resentments for? 637 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: It? 638 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned having resentments? 639 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: Do I have resentments? Yeah? I think they left. They left. 640 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: I'm alright, I'm alright. Sometimes they come and they go, 641 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: you know. 642 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just like over here wandering around west for 643 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 8: not much going on, riding my bike everywhere. 644 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah what so the resentments they come and they go 645 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, it's like a cycle. 646 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 8: Yeah no, I'm matter of fact, shout out to the 647 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 8: family court. What is family court is where they decide 648 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 8: you can see your kid or not? 649 00:26:59,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay? 650 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and they like always pick the woman. It's 651 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 8: like really unfair over there? 652 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Is that what you don't have to talk about if 653 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: you don't want it, you know I. 654 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 8: Could talk about it. Yeah yeah, I'm like dealing with that. 655 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 8: They got me on child support and then the girl 656 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 8: she wants they garnished in my check right, oh yeah 657 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 8: for child support, and then she don't want to let 658 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 8: me see the kid. But she's okay with taking the money, 659 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 8: but she don't want to let me see the. 660 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Kid if they garnished your wages. But you can't see 661 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: the kid. 662 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 8: Like they let me see him. But she's trying to 663 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 8: take my rights away. And she made like false allegations. 664 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 8: She says, I'm crazy, where where's the kid is here? 665 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: And he's over here and they. 666 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: Moved to Staten Island out of all man all borrows. 667 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. Man, Yeah, it's just one kid. 668 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she said, I'm crazy, But how old is 669 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: the child? He's eight? He's eight, So I'm crazy to 670 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: see my kid, but not to send eight hundred dollars 671 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: a month? 672 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 7: You know? 673 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 11: Well? 674 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: How you even? I mean, you know again, we can 675 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: talk about it if you want. 676 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: Your how you're not gonna talk about anything? 677 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 678 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: What have you been like holding up? 679 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: What? 680 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: I've been acting a. 681 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 8: Little Kanye Kanye, Like, I've been storming the courts. They're 682 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 8: telling me lawyer is like fifteen thousand dollars. I'm not 683 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 8: paying a lawyer. I'm like, how can somebody change the results? 684 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Is that what acting Kanye is? 685 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: Oh? 686 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 8: No, I've been like storming them. I've been like harassing 687 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 8: the courts, like speaking my truth, Like. 688 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: This interview is not this isn't gonna be bad for you, 689 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: is it? 690 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: No? 691 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: No? 692 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: No, no, no, okay? You know calling the cops on 693 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the cops? How do you call the cops on the cops? 694 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: Like when the cops ain't behaving, I call other cops 695 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 8: just try to correct them. And like then I go 696 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 8: over there every day as soon as they open, and 697 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 8: every conversation I have, I make sure they know this. 698 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: This is serious. Yeah, but I don't know you asked me, bro, 699 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm just. 700 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: What do you been like? 701 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's a difficult situation. 702 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but. 703 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm good though, because I used to be like a 704 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: drug addict. 705 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you are? You off of drugs now? 706 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 11: Yeah? 707 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 708 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: I think I saw them other kids. 709 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there's another guy actually go to the same program. 710 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh you did? Yeah, okay, cool? 711 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. I don't know his story. But if 712 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: you end up in that program, ship was not going well? 713 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, are things going better. 714 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: For you now? 715 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean way better? 716 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: Like when you're not doing cocaine? Things are better? 717 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 12: Man? 718 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 8: Yeah? 719 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: What like I mean, okay, I know it's hard. I 720 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: know you're in a tough situation. But what's been Has 721 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: there been things that are positive that you're looking? 722 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: Everything is actually positive? 723 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 7: Really? 724 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: The only thing that's like a little inconvenience Okay, but yeah, 725 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 8: like I used to. 726 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know anything about addiction and 727 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: stuff like that. I mean, like you know, like the 728 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: fannel epidemic. 729 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah I know. 730 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's like when you're addicted to that stuff 731 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 8: is like it literally controls you. You know, of course 732 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 8: you wake up like with these cravings and like you 733 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 8: need to get it, you know, and now just be 734 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 8: riding my bike everywhere because you know, my license suspended. 735 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Queens. I live in Queens. 736 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: So how long have you been off of the fedanel 737 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: for three years? 738 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: Three years? 739 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Okay? 740 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 741 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: And has it have you replaced it with anything that's 742 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: like like positive? 743 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 8: So I can't like, I don't really like sit I 744 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 8: don't watch TV because I don't know how to like 745 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 8: sit down and like pause. Yeah, I feel so as 746 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 8: soon as I wake up, I make like my espresso coffee, 747 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 8: or I gotta start running, or I gotta start go 748 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 8: to the gym. I bike everywhere, you know, and I 749 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 8: work now, and I you know, I might. I'm able 750 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 8: to save my money, you know. 751 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Cool. 752 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: I mean I don't save I buy a bunch of shoes. 753 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: You buy shoes. 754 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 8: I buy shoes and clothes, get necessary tattoos. 755 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: That's okay, you gotta listen, man. I here's like I'm 756 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: I am a strong proponent of like saving money, trying 757 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: to be financial independent or whatnot. But sometimes when when 758 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: life text is told on you, you got to find 759 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: those little things to make you happy, you know what 760 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: I mean. 761 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 8: I look at it like, hey, you can save money, 762 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 8: but you also could be doing cocaine and risking your life, 763 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 8: you know, like right, And when I put it like that, 764 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 8: it's always like, you know what, Yeah, I'm about this. 765 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, but this is weird. 766 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 8: There's still always something left over, like you know, like 767 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 8: I save a little bit, like I don't know when 768 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 8: I want to, you know, but there's something safe, you know. 769 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if you got any questions. 770 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I got plenty of questions. 771 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 8: I got you on Instagram. Oh you do have some 772 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 8: funny stuff. Oh thanks man for ship that. 773 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 774 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: I come here. I come here like once a week 775 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: now and every people like you know, well, I'm curious. 776 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious about a lot of things. So okay, so 777 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: life is good because you feel you're sober. Yeah, do 778 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: you do anything? Do you so you know, no drinking, 779 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: no smoke or anything. 780 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't even want secondhand smoke. 781 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 782 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 8: Like I always wanted we to be legal, and now 783 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 8: I'm like, fucking make cancel that shit again. 784 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. 785 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 8: I became like a Karen about my sobriety because oh yeah, 786 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 8: you know, Karen's. 787 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Is not good. 788 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 8: But it's like sometimes that's the way I feel. It's 789 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 8: not on purpose, it's just like serious to me. Well, 790 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 8: let's talk about this. 791 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: So the other guy, he was talking about escaping yourself, right, 792 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: and you're talking about drugs or a use of escaping yourself. 793 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: And I and I'm I've never been addicted the fentanyl 794 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, but I'm familiar with like doing things and 795 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: in some sort of attempt to like escape yourself, right, yeah, 796 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: And so did give is that what you did? You 797 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: find yourself trying to escape yourself. 798 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 8: So in the beginning, it was just like there was 799 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 8: nothing to do, you know, you start smoking weed, drinking, 800 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 8: and I never felt like like it was controlling me. 801 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 8: But when the hard drugs came in, like oxy, coldon 802 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 8: and cocaine, it got to a point where it. 803 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: Was not an option no more, you know. 804 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: And at the very end, I realized you kind of 805 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 8: realize what you're doing something for when you stop doing it, 806 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 8: you know, because you're always giving yourself what. 807 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: You need, you know, like like let's say you always 808 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: got a frou. 809 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, can you just hold the mic up right, Yeah, yeah. 810 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 8: You realize you always got a fridze full of water 811 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 8: and anytime you need it you just go there. Right, 812 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 8: But let's say you don't have no water for a 813 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 8: whole week. You realize how thirsty you are why you 814 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 8: drink water and stuff like that. So when you like 815 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 8: stop consuming and using, you realize like, oh shit, I 816 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 8: am lonely. Oh shit, I kind of hate myself. Oh shit, 817 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 8: I don't know how to be around social activities. But 818 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 8: it's not for everybody, and everybody has to get sober, 819 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 8: you know, you, But it's okay to like, I feel 820 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 8: like it's good to speak about. 821 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: It like me, because there's a lot that can't handle 822 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: it and they just like, nah, this can't be me. 823 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 8: I don't have to stop this, and it's just better 824 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 8: like to just realize if you're the person that could 825 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 8: use safely or drink safely, then to like think you're 826 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 8: not and keep ruining your life, you know what I'm saying. 827 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: So how did you learn to do? You still hate 828 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: yourself some some not not really hate. 829 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 8: Some days I have like self pity, you know, but 830 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 8: it's not as it's not as low, you know, it's 831 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 8: not as low. 832 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: How did it get not as love? How did it improve? 833 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: It's like it's like more level. 834 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 8: It's probably a couple of hours or I probably just 835 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 8: go for a run or I slip it out and 836 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 8: like it changes pretty quick, not like before, like you're 837 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 8: with withdrawing, it lasted weeks and months. You know, it's 838 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 8: like more human itself. But yeah, yeah no, but I 839 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 8: don't want to make this depressing. You know, I'm I'm 840 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 8: a pretty exciting person telling me about Dominican Yeah, you know, 841 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 8: the only thing I missed about using drugs. 842 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: He used to freestyle a lot, you know, I used 843 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: to you can you you haven't been able to free. 844 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 8: I like, yo, something's missing here, man, it's not the same, 845 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 8: you know. Yeah I used to be that guy. Just yeah, 846 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 8: there's a lot of I know what they do that 847 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 8: around here or Union Squah Square like that, just come 848 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 8: to random people, like give me a topic, you know, 849 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 8: and yeah they got the Dominican Parade tomorrow, know if 850 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 8: you know about that? 851 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah that's a big parade. 852 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: So wait, so you can't you don't feel like you 853 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: can freestyle as well when you're not on drugs? 854 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 8: And I could it just it just doesn't dot fun. 855 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 8: You know, it's just like he's just I just got 856 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 8: my little vape. It's like it's cool, but it's not. 857 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 8: It don't hit like cocaine. 858 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, No, A lot of great ideas. I 859 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: think we're formed on cocaine. I mean, like ninety nine 860 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: percent of that's what they're all doing. Cocaine and fucking 861 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley. That's how they came up with Facebook. 862 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 7: Yeah. 863 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I miss being around the girls and stuff, 864 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, being in the night scene. 865 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 7: You know. 866 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 8: Sure, Now I'm like Moran. A lot of spiritual girls 867 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 8: and stuff. They say they're spiritual. 868 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, are you see around a lot of 869 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: like what are you not a girls in recovery? 870 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 8: You know? 871 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah sure yeah, yeah. 872 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 8: They don't look bad, but you kind of gotta respect 873 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 8: the program, yeah, of course, and respect like your own sobriety. 874 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 8: You know. It's like it kind of don't look right 875 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 8: because I do care about my sobriety, and it's like. 876 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 3: If you kind of use. 877 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 8: Your your like your recovery or your sober thing, oh 878 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 8: to get that girls. Yeah sure, it kind of looks 879 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 8: a little a little a little hinge. Yeah what I'm saying, 880 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 8: you got to church, and you at church and you're 881 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 8: there for girls. You understand it's kind of disrespecting God. 882 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I understand. But you you get a strong 883 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: relationship with God. 884 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: It's it's it is there. Yeah, I got a relationship, man. 885 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: What's that? What's that look like? 886 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I pray in the morning, I get on my 887 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: knees every day, and I do meditation. 888 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: I do a gratitude list. What was on your gratitude 889 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: list today? 890 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: What's on my gratitude list? 891 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 7: Oh? 892 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have one today? 893 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 894 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta do a gratitude list because I got 895 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 8: a lot of ship to complain about. 896 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I gotta at least started with the things. 897 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Do you do the scratch your list every morning? 898 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 899 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, let me get let me hear this morning. 900 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 8: You know that's pretty simple, you know. Grateful to be sober, 901 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 8: Grateful that I have access. I spoke at a meeting 902 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 8: this morning. Okay, like my my, you know my story. Yeah, 903 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 8: Grateful that I'm showing up even if I don't want to, 904 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 8: for sleep, a place to lay my head, music, coffee, 905 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 8: my son, my bike. 906 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 3: Oh, and these stickers I puts on the bike. 907 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: Is it the one that says uh, specialized wheel on 908 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: the wheel? Oh, the one that says robo Yeah yeah, 909 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: Oh I like those those are cool and. 910 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta TikTok. 911 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 8: I make like dark comedy, dark comedy on sobriety, Like 912 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 8: we just kind of make like being an addict is 913 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 8: pretty funny. 914 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Like this ship that people do to get high. 915 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 8: Sure, it's like fucking you buy something for three hundred 916 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 8: dollars in that fucking six in the morning, You're like, yo, 917 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 8: I'll give this shit for forty I don't care. 918 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: Right now, can I? 919 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: If only if you want to share it? But what's 920 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: the funniest thing you've done to get high? Ooh da, 921 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: I gotta think about it. I don't know if to 922 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: get high, but to prove that I'm sober. 923 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 3: I think about this. 924 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 8: So I had my rehab and I had to get 925 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 8: drug tested every week with where my you know, urine. 926 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 8: So somebody told me you could ask somebody for the urine. 927 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 928 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 8: So I called my little brother. He was about like 929 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 8: twelve years old, and I'm like, we have I'm gonna 930 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 8: give you twenty dollars tomorrow. 931 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 7: I need you. 932 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: He's like, you need me. No, He's like, I'm like, 933 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: I need your urine. And I put my brother through that. 934 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 8: I was driving at the time, and I picked them 935 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 8: up at like around seven in the morning. Posy, if 936 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 8: the piss is warm, it's like more legit, you know, 937 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 8: you just it out. So we lived in Queens in 938 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 8: this in the rehabits. All the outpatient was over here 939 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 8: in the city. So I literally brought him with me 940 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 8: so the pists can stay out of warm temperature, you know. 941 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 8: So I'm I gave I gave him a cup and 942 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 8: I'm like, take a pic. 943 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 944 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 8: I find this funny. Man, like you literally just kidnap 945 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 8: your brother for his piss, you know. And uh and 946 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 8: he just like my little brother. He's like, this is 947 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 8: my big brother. I look up to him, and you know, 948 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 8: he pissed in the cup and he did everything right. 949 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: Did you end up passing the tests? 950 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: I passed passed, But I wasn't expecting this. I was 951 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: high at the moment. Hope. It's supposedly they lower your 952 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: blood pressure. 953 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 8: And the guy while he's like taking my blood, he's like, 954 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 8: your pressure is like I don't know, high or low, 955 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 8: but it was what it was not supposed to be. 956 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have this part of the test. 957 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: How did you get the peak? Because don't they make 958 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: you go into it? Like how did you get the pee? 959 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: And they was too strict, they let you go to 960 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: the bathroom by yourself. So I had the little the 961 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: little cup and I had it. I put it inside yourself. Yeah, 962 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: and then I just one, two, three, put it in 963 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: the cup and I gave it to you. So I 964 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: passed and the guy looked at me weird, but he 965 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: didn't give me a hard time because it's like it 966 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: was just blood pressure. 967 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, I drink a lot of caffeine, you know, 968 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 3: and what else I have I done? 969 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 12: Man? 970 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 8: Oh, you know, I don't even think it's probably some 971 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 8: funny stuff, but there's a lot of embarrassing things, you know. Yeah, 972 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 8: but it's all good though. It's all good though, not 973 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 8: like embarrassed. You know, like everybody got a story human life. 974 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 8: I just feel like people don't talk about this. 975 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: So the TikTok I have, I kind of like every 976 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: sound on TikTok you can find. 977 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 8: A way to make it your own, right, And I 978 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 8: just like like make like I write something about like addiction, 979 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 8: you know, like when you're trying to get in contact 980 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 8: with the plug at six in the morning and he 981 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 8: tells you to meet him up at his house and 982 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 8: then when you get there, he. 983 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: Don't pick up. Yep, it's not a good feeling. What 984 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: else is funny? My bad? 985 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 8: You asked me some questions, bro, I don't know about 986 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 8: if I'm getting you both time. One time, my friend 987 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 8: I called him at like three in the morning. He's like, 988 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 8: I'm up. And then I get to his house to 989 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 8: buy some stuff, and the desire to use to get 990 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 8: high was so strong that I'm like, yo, I just 991 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 8: got to this guy's house. 992 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: He's not picking up. 993 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 8: I'm blasting his phone, calling him on Facebook, Instagram, even 994 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 8: my Space, man like I need to get in contact 995 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 8: with this guy, you know. 996 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 3: And then he doesn't answer. So I try to climb. 997 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 8: I climb through a big gate and I try to 998 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 8: open his window and his father comes in, like at 999 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 8: seven in the morning. He's like what are you doing. 1000 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 8: I'm like, your son, he's not picking up the phone, 1001 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 8: but he's like what are you doing? Like how you 1002 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 8: got back here? 1003 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: He's like, can you please leave? You know? And I left, 1004 00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: you know. 1005 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 8: But now that I think about that. That's a little 1006 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 8: I don't think that's normal behavior. 1007 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: You know, like it probably wasn't. But I think part 1008 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: of you know, that's part of looking back on past behavior. Yeah, 1009 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: that probably wasn't normal. But like when you're I think 1010 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: when you're in something like that, you have you have 1011 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: no discernment. 1012 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do to survive. 1013 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: Well when you yeah, when you're in something like that, 1014 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: you're like, you just have no discernment. You just start 1015 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: going through whatever it is that your brain is fucking 1016 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: telling you to do. And then you mature and you go, oh, yeah, 1017 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: that was fucking stupid, you know, But then you that's 1018 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: part of life. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 1019 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 3: And then this one is a little dark. But yeah, 1020 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 3: I'm telling you too much. 1021 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: Man, only if you will if you want, I mean, 1022 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'll disclaim I put this on the internet. Yeah, yeah, 1023 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: tell me if you watch, you know, if there's other things, 1024 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: all right. 1025 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 8: But you know, in Queens, prostitution is real big okay, 1026 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 8: And when you get cocaine, you get real horny. 1027 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: Sure you can talk about this like that. You you 1028 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about whatever you want to. 1029 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 8: Mind you don't mind talking about like horniness and all that, 1030 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 8: but you know, people get horny, you know. 1031 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, people get horned. That's part of life. Yeah, normal 1032 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: you can yeah we're not so when. 1033 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: You get horning, but you can't get hard. 1034 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 8: So it's like you have the strongest desire to do something, yeah, 1035 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 8: and then this it's gone. 1036 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: So they used to be this thing called like back page. 1037 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, you find like escorts, and every time he showed up, 1038 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 8: it was never the girl in the picture. Sure so, 1039 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 8: and I knew it was never the girl in the picture. 1040 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 8: So I used to get a hide just by calling 1041 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 8: the number and having hope that it actually was her. Yeah, 1042 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 8: And I will call like fucking like thirty numbers in 1043 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 8: one night. 1044 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: And you would never meet any of the like sometimes 1045 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: that would me like if they keep Sometimes they're like, yeah, 1046 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: this is her, this is her. 1047 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: I'm like, this is the one with the pink hannies. 1048 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 8: They're like, yeah, it's her, it's her, and I will 1049 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 8: go over there. It was never heard, and I was like, 1050 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 8: I'm not doing this last thing. I'm gonna say this 1051 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 8: might be funny or I don't know. They supposedly like 1052 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 8: a mafia cartel with these people, you know, they traffick 1053 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 8: people and all that. And they sent me so I 1054 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 8: cancel a girl right like they brought her to me 1055 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 8: and I'm like, that's not the girl, bro. 1056 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 5: No. 1057 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 3: They got upset. 1058 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 8: They're like, you wasted our time, and they sent me 1059 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 8: pictures of people's heads cut off Jesus and like slaughter. 1060 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 8: But you could tell that the pictures were like probably 1061 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 8: in Mexico, you know, they do that type of stuff. 1062 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: Okay, And I was a little scared. 1063 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 8: I'm like, and they started harassing me and telling you 1064 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 8: got to pay us their money. 1065 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 7: What did you do? 1066 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 3: I basically got wasted their time? 1067 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: No, I mean did you pay them money? 1068 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 5: No? 1069 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 3: No, it's just like you didn't. You lied to me. 1070 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: You gave me a menu, and when you know I 1071 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 3: asked for a burger, you brought me a vegan burger. 1072 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: So how did you So you were at a point 1073 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: where you were like I'm done, I just come and 1074 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: fucking kill me. But now you want to live? Oh yeah, 1075 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: I want to live now? 1076 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1077 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: How'd you get there? 1078 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 8: You know? It's like I don't wake up miserable every day, 1079 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 8: you know, like I actually got a lot of things 1080 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 8: to look forward to. 1081 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: I got a lot of shoes to wear that I 1082 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: haven't had time to wear. 1083 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 8: It's weird things like that, you know, like they say 1084 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 8: material things that, like it's not the most important things. 1085 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 8: But sometimes you who knows, you got a new game, 1086 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 8: you might want to play that game before you die. 1087 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, things like that. 1088 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 8: And I never really wanted to die, you know, but 1089 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 8: the way I was living, when I was living like that, 1090 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 8: it could probably get you there. You know, if you 1091 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 8: like wasting your your whole life and wasting your check 1092 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 8: that quick, and like you don't have self respect for yourself. 1093 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 8: You look at yourself in the mirror, you look unhealthy 1094 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 8: and all that, that could probably get you to that point, 1095 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 8: you know. 1096 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hmm hmm. 1097 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 8: But yeah I live Uh I don't know if that 1098 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 8: helps out, but yeah, I live over there by you know, 1099 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 8: city Field. 1100 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: No Corona, by the met Stadium. 1101 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: Oh no, uh no, I don't, I don't. I'm not 1102 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: in a baseball guy, but I know what the metsa are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1103 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: I live by their stadium. Okay, yeah, yeah, by the 1104 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: Seven Trains. So what what are you looking forward to 1105 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: in life these days? 1106 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: Right now? Right now? I don't really know, man, like 1107 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 3: things are good right now. 1108 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 8: The thing is, you know, like I feel like a 1109 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 8: lot of stuff is a scam right now. This thing 1110 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 8: is like built for us to fail. 1111 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: What's what's a scam? 1112 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 6: You know? 1113 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 8: It's like one job can't even get you an apartment, 1114 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. It's like all these things. 1115 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I don't really know what I'm looking for. 1116 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 8: But I think this generation has a lot of what 1117 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 8: I'm not saying you but a lot of us Like 1118 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 8: it's just it's kind of hard out here, you know, 1119 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 8: but I'm not I'm not like really like struggling, like 1120 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 8: I could go eat do whatever, but not like like 1121 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 8: real big goals, like real real big a cheese ones. 1122 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1123 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: I think our generation is definitely like having problems, like 1124 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: you know whatever, having wanted to have a kid, or 1125 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: get married, or have a house or do all these things. 1126 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 8: This this guy, this Dominican do in Spanish, He's like 1127 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 8: he made it sound like he's like, you know, I 1128 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 8: could go to my country today, you know, and I 1129 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 8: could live for the rest of my life only if 1130 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 8: I die by tomorrow at seven seven thirty am. 1131 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1132 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 3: So basically you can listen to the rest of his life. 1133 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 8: So it's like one of those you know, you kind 1134 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 8: of just get used to it, you know, you just 1135 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 8: kind of but things are way better, man, Like, things 1136 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 8: are way better, you know. 1137 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm a I don't know you deal with 1138 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 3: social media. I'm asking you a question. 1139 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 6: All right. 1140 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 8: Sure, I'm bad because I got this TikTok and I 1141 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 8: got like I managed to get like in twenty twenty 1142 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 8: two when I wasn't working in the dark comedy. Yeah, 1143 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 8: and I man to got like almost thirteen thousand followers 1144 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 8: and like one hundred and sixty six thousand likes. Okay, 1145 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 8: but like the shame or something of over like the 1146 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 8: overthinking of knowing that even. 1147 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 3: Though I'm being perceived, yeah, like your videos are being watched. 1148 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 8: And then when I saw like people that know me 1149 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 8: in real life see my videos. Like I was cool 1150 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 8: with people that I don't know, like talking about all 1151 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 8: this and see my bit. But when I saw real people, 1152 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 8: I saw like a little Yeah, I don't want you 1153 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 8: guys to see it. But I don't know how you 1154 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 8: deal with it, Like you kind of gotta be yourself, 1155 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 8: you know, how you deal with like some days like 1156 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 8: at night, you know, maybe you have too much caffeine 1157 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 8: and you overthink about like yo, what. 1158 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: I oh sorry, basically asking me, how do you not 1159 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: ever think? Yeah, yeah, about the social about social media. 1160 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 8: Like social media and the content always being out there, 1161 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 8: because like I did it. 1162 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: But like I mean, you put your phone down, man, 1163 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: you walk outside here, let me just let's let the 1164 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: videos spin. Yeah yeah, I mean you can't ever think it. 1165 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean I do ever think it plenty, but like 1166 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I believe me. 1167 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, coming from the outside is not that deep. It is, 1168 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 3: believe me. Like it's I think it's in it's in 1169 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: the person's head, like I see other people doing. I 1170 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 3: don't think anything bad. I'm like, this is fucking great. 1171 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: Well, also, like nobody cares about you. Nobody cares, nobody. 1172 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's both. It's both. It's both a tragic 1173 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: fact and a beautiful fact that nobody really cares about you. 1174 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 3: And this guy was literally screaming it don't really matter. 1175 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody cares. 1176 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: Nobody listening to you, nobody. Everyone has their own life, 1177 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: everyone's doing their own things. So you know, man, what's 1178 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: your name again? Jason Jason, Jason, dude, thanks for I 1179 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate your your vulnerability and your honesty. I appreciate 1180 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: you sharing your story with us here. I hope it 1181 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: was a positive experience for you. Yeah, and I appreciate you. 1182 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: Is Is there anything else you want to say to 1183 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we get out of here? 1184 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1185 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, right now, bro, we here were just follow my 1186 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 8: TikTok Sober Facts, Sober Facts, and in my Instagram, I'm 1187 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 8: doing content like I ride my bike like real crazy sure, 1188 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 8: like really get into traffic and all that. You know, 1189 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 8: I've still got to do crazy stuff in the extent, 1190 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 8: you know, like thissk my life and stuff. Okay, I 1191 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 8: got a little constant Yeah you always you always end 1192 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 8: up you know. There was something Yeah, yeah. 1193 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 3: I got the go pro I put it on it. 1194 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, Now I appreciate you brought on. Really 1195 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 8: got much to say, you know, I'm grateful. We what 1196 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 8: was this Washington, Washington Square Park? Yeah yeah, shout out 1197 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 8: to Corona Queens. You know, hopefully this video goes up, 1198 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 8: you know. 1199 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: Weird walking wrong reveal. Jason, Nice to meet you, man, 1200 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: Stay uh, stay safe, okay, don't don't don't crash your 1201 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: bike and kill yourself or anything. 1202 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 6: Hi. 1203 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: What's your name? 1204 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 10: My name is Ellen, Ellen. 1205 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, Lyle, to meet you. How's life going? 1206 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 10: That's going great? 1207 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: Wait, tell me more. That's such a h That was 1208 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: like an instinctively positive answer. 1209 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 10: My mom vacation with my family. We're having a great 1210 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 10: time with friends. 1211 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Well, how how like how long have 1212 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: you had a family? 1213 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 10: I have a ten year old and a twelve year 1214 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 10: old and I've been married for fourteen years. 1215 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: Was that any of that difficult? 1216 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1217 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 2: Was it all? 1218 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: Was it worth it? 1219 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 1220 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: Would you do it again? 1221 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 7: Yes? 1222 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for someone trying to like 1223 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: start a family or like, who's like just started a family? 1224 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 10: Communicate and she be honest. 1225 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: Has your like communication with your family gotten like like 1226 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: better over time? Yes? 1227 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 10: It has. 1228 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: How are they your like children? 1229 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 5: Oh? 1230 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: I have a question because you have like kids? 1231 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 7: Right? 1232 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: Your kids are like a little older, you know, Like, 1233 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: are you are you worried about the future or do 1234 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: you think everything will be all right? 1235 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1236 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 10: I worry. 1237 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: What do you worry about? 1238 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 10: I worry about that there's too much access to things. 1239 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: Well, tell me more. 1240 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 10: With the internet, with social media. I worry about their 1241 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 10: mental health. 1242 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: Are you do your kids seem like they have like 1243 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: good mental health? 1244 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 10: Yes? But I seemed like that too, And then you know, 1245 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 10: it gets life gets hard. 1246 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: When you were ten, what do you remember about your 1247 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,959 Speaker 1: life for like, when you were your kid's age. 1248 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 10: When I was ten, it was easy. 1249 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: Life was easy. 1250 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 10: Life was easy. 1251 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: Do you think life was easier for you than that 1252 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: it is for your kids now? 1253 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 11: I don't know. 1254 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 10: Maybe it was less complicated. 1255 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: What era of your life has been the least complicated? 1256 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 10: Probably my childhood does right. 1257 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: Now feel complicated? 1258 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 5: Oh? 1259 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, you gotta work and take care of your work 1260 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 10: and take care of your family. 1261 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's complicated, but see you seem like you're having 1262 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: a great time things are. Now there's my family, there's 1263 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: your family. Well, I'll let you go, unless if you 1264 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 1: want to keep talking. 1265 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 10: I'm just talking about life. 1266 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about life. 1267 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,439 Speaker 10: You know, a get go about life? 1268 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1269 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: Is that your husband? 1270 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 10: That's my husband and my daughter? 1271 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: Had you had you and your husband made at a bar? 1272 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: You guys have met at a bar. Don't you ever 1273 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 1: think about it? Didn't you ever think about crazy? 1274 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: Like? 1275 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh if I just stayed in that night, my whole 1276 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: life would be different. Isn't that crazy? What did he 1277 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: first say to you at the bar? 1278 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 10: You're too old and too smart? 1279 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 2: He said that to you. 1280 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, he only dated young girl. Oh, my son really wet. 1281 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 11: He only dated young girls. And I was getting my 1282 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 11: master's degree, So he said I was too old and 1283 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 11: too smart. 1284 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: He said you were too old. Were not offended when 1285 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: he said you were too old? 1286 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 10: No, I just showed him that I was better than 1287 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 10: all those girls. 1288 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay, very cool? Hmm. And what was it like a 1289 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 1: Is it like in a college. 1290 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 10: Town or was it in Hermosa Beach, California? 1291 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: For most of Beach, California? Very nice? What was your 1292 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: first date after the bar? 1293 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 10: Do you remember a restaurant by in Hermosa? 1294 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: What made you fall in love with your husband? 1295 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 5: When? 1296 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,439 Speaker 1: When was the moment? 1297 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 5: Oh? 1298 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 10: Oh, there's Danny. 1299 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: His honesty, his honesty. I guess, I guess the fact 1300 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: that he came up to you and immediately said you 1301 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: are too old is an indicator of some form of honesty. 1302 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 10: Exactly. 1303 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: Well, this is your whole family. 1304 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 10: No, we're we're heading to Cooper'stown. 1305 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: Oh the base here, Oh, you got a whole clan. 1306 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 10: I got a whole there's more. 1307 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: Are they troublesommer? Are they well behaved? There? 1308 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 10: Well, I'm a principle of an elementary school, so. 1309 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: There was the principal of elementary school. 1310 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 10: Well really, I'll mess those kids up if they mess around? 1311 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: Really have you? 1312 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 5: Uh? 1313 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: Do you do you rule with an eye and fist 1314 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: or do you rule with compassion? 1315 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 10: Compassion? 1316 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: That's nice? What's the number one? What's what's the number 1317 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: one issue that like kids are facing these days? From 1318 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: from what you observe at. 1319 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 10: The school I work at, They're they're entitled. 1320 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think more so than like when when when 1321 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 1: you were a kid? 1322 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 10: What do your parents are? Lawnmower? 1323 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 11: Parents like to plow down all the obstacles in front 1324 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 11: of them so they don't have to deal with adversity. Interesting, 1325 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 11: and then they don't learn how to deal with struggles. 1326 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: Interesting. 1327 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 10: Okay, I gotta go. 1328 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Well it was very what's your name? Ellen? Ellen? 1329 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you, and thank you very much 1330 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: for chatting with a Get go. You have a great 1331 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: life too. I'll see you around the universe. What a 1332 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: nice uh, what a nice guest appearance from a from 1333 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: an elementary school principal. That was a good interview. Hi, 1334 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm Nicole, Nicole. Nice to meet you to meet. What's up, Nicole? 1335 00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 1: How's it, how's it going? How's life? 1336 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 3: What's nice? 1337 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: What's happening? 1338 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 12: Life is great? Life is great. 1339 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 5: Well, I was just watching people waiting around in the 1340 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 5: fountain without shoes on. 1341 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1342 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 5: I've seen so many people watching watching their goocha's just 1343 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 5: squatting over the you know the stream. 1344 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, I get reels of that all the time. 1345 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 5: But I haven't seen this fountain in person, so I 1346 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 5: was just kind of like waiting to see if somebody 1347 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 5: would pop a squat, but so far, no luck. Only 1348 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 5: people waiting around without shoes on, which is also a choice. 1349 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: Do you live around here? 1350 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 7: I do? 1351 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1352 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: And what do you go to school? 1353 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 6: You do? 1354 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: What do you go to school for? 1355 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 12: I'm a grad student in opera? 1356 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: You're a grad student in opera? 1357 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1358 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: So are you like an opera singer? 1359 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1360 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: Really? 1361 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1362 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 3: Cool? 1363 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1364 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: What you seem embarrassed about it? 1365 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 5: It's a very niche interest, extremely niche. Yeah, extremely niche. 1366 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 5: But I am a master's level. 1367 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: That's amazing. How your how do you keep your voice 1368 00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: in check? 1369 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 3: You know? 1370 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 5: I try not to smoke very much. I try to 1371 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 5: do vocalese like warm ups and stuff. I try to 1372 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 5: I try to keep a regular practice schedule, but it's 1373 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 5: the summer, so things are a little bit loosey goosey. 1374 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, Now, what's the hardest part about 1375 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: being an opera singer? 1376 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 5: About being an opera singer, probably h I think it 1377 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 5: really depends on what kind of opera singer you are. 1378 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 5: For me, like, I'm a soprano, and so you know, 1379 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 5: most opera singers are sopranos. But if you're a tenor, 1380 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 5: if you're a guy, you've got a lot more opportunities. 1381 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: So you are in a area with a lot of 1382 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 1: other opera singers, right. 1383 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 12: Which is great, Like that is the best part for me. 1384 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel like ranger guys. I'm wondering if they're 1385 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: gonna I've never ever in my life Beten kicked out 1386 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: of this park, but I'm curious. Wait, they're walking past them. 1387 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 12: Have you done a lot of interview is in this park? 1388 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1389 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: This is the one place. Every single other place I 1390 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: go to in the world to do this, I end 1391 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: up eventually getting kicked out, but never at this part. 1392 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, just look around. There's a woman behind 1393 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 5: us with like two parrots sitting on her shoulder. 1394 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 7: Right. 1395 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: Oh, holy shit, there is a moment behind us with 1396 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: two bards. Yeah, okay, I gotta go talk to her 1397 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: after this. You got this is myself. I don't even 1398 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: have to record it. 1399 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 12: I was just wandering. I I wandered in like waiting 1400 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 12: to see something crazy going on. 1401 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: So okay, remember I was gonna ask you the opera 1402 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: scene Like the other people, there are opera singers cool? 1403 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: Or are they like theater kids? What's the demo, what's 1404 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: the vibe, what's the scene? 1405 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,439 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of there's a lot of crossover. Yeah, 1406 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of opera singers start as 1407 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 5: theater kids. Because I mean in your your hometown, is 1408 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 5: there an opera is there? Is there an opera stage? 1409 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 5: Probably not, but there's probably a community theater, so there 1410 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 5: there does tend to be the ven diagram is almost 1411 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 5: a circle, I would say, yeah, which might be a 1412 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 5: controversial tape that you used to. 1413 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: Be a theater kid? 1414 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 12: Yes, yes I did. 1415 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: Do you still identify as a theater kid? 1416 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 5: I think a part of me does. I think a 1417 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 5: part of me really does especially being back in New York. 1418 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, there's something that there's like a part of 1419 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 5: my child self that like is extremely excited to be 1420 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 5: here just for the clout, I would say, but also 1421 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 5: realistically in my adult brain, I'm like, I'm just paying 1422 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 5: a lot of money to live here and you know, exist, 1423 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 5: and so there's that. 1424 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,959 Speaker 12: But it is great. It's a great city. 1425 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 2: I do love it. 1426 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 1: Does singing up or hurt? 1427 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 5: It shouldn't, but sometimes it do be hurting. And when 1428 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 5: it do be hurting, you gotta you gotta stop. 1429 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: What happens if you get like a cold, uh, you 1430 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: just get you just. 1431 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 5: Gotta either take steroids to try and suppress the symptoms 1432 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 5: to get you through whatever you're getting through, whether that's 1433 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 5: like a show or if you can, you just gotta 1434 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 5: take time off. Unfortunately, do you get grades, Like do 1435 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 5: you have like a person like you sit stand, you say, 1436 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 5: in a room and you sing and then someone go 1437 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 5: like checks or box around. That's literally what graduate opera 1438 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 5: school is like, Yes, like that. That is the majority 1439 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 5: of my classes is getting up. I mean we have 1440 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 5: to take theory and history and all of that good stuff. 1441 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 5: That does you know, that's a separate thing. But a 1442 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 5: lot of the classes are a person of the profession 1443 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 5: and they give you their hot takes, and it's very funny. 1444 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 5: Like the final for singers is called a jury, and 1445 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 5: you stand up in front of a room of older 1446 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 5: like musical people and they give you feedback. But you'll 1447 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 5: have one person give you the feedback of like, oh, 1448 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 5: this song you sang was great in your voice, good job, 1449 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 5: just work on this little thing. And then the next 1450 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 5: person will be like, that song you chose was terrible 1451 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 5: for your voice. I don't know who let you sing that. 1452 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 12: Girl you are you are doomed to failure. 1453 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 5: And then the next person will be like, everything was 1454 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 5: perfect except you mispronounced this word. 1455 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 12: In English? 1456 00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 7: Is you know? 1457 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 5: And and but everything else was great. The feedback is 1458 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 5: like wildly different, and so it's kind of hard to 1459 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 5: take something away from it. 1460 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: So what's the ultimate goal? Is it like be in 1461 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: like the New York Opera? 1462 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that would be wonderful. I actually enjoy 1463 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 5: higher education. So I do hope to be a professor 1464 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 5: someday of music and to carry on carry on the 1465 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 5: legacy of teaching this very. 1466 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: This might be a stupid question, but is can it 1467 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: can can the voice be taught? Is it not just 1468 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: something that one has it? 1469 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 12: It's both. 1470 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 5: I think our anatomy plays a large part in kind 1471 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 5: of where we start. Like if you know some some 1472 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 5: for some people, singing comes naturally. I think we can 1473 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 5: all we all know that, right, Like there are some 1474 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 5: people that we grew up with they just seem like 1475 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 5: they could always singing kind of thing, and then some 1476 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 5: people struggle more so, I think if you enjoy music 1477 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 5: and you enjoy singing, there's a lot that you can 1478 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 5: actually improve on. But we all come from different starting places, 1479 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 5: and I think generally the people who gravitate to opera, 1480 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 5: they usually were like, you know, like the theater kid. 1481 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 5: They got a lot of praise for their voice when 1482 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 5: they were younger, and so they grew up to pursue 1483 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 5: this thing. Like you don't usually see people pursuing opera 1484 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 5: who maybe like are just. 1485 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: In it for the people who sound like Abraham Lincoln. 1486 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 5: Who sound like shit, but are in it for the 1487 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 5: love of the game, Like usually not so much. Usually 1488 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 5: that's more like casual. 1489 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you do outside of opera singing? 1490 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Do you have hobbies of some kind? 1491 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, I I am a learning how to tune pianos. 1492 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I go, I do you tune them 1493 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: with your voice? 1494 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 5: Kind of it uses like similar muscles, I would say, 1495 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 5: I would say, because you have to. You have to 1496 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 5: recognize when something's out of tune, which most people can 1497 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 5: do that. Like you play a piano and it sounds 1498 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 5: like shit, like, oh, that needs to be tuned, you know. 1499 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 12: Same with singing. 1500 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 5: You you hear you hear someone singing out of tune, 1501 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 5: and you know, you know that that's happening, so you 1502 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 5: know it overlaps for sure. But yeah, I like to 1503 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 5: go in there and and take the guts out and 1504 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 5: fiddle around and try and put it back together and 1505 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 5: yeah mmmm and. 1506 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: A do you plan to stay here in New York 1507 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 1: City or would you go somewhere else to do your opera? 1508 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 12: I really want to stay here. 1509 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 5: There's a lot going on talking to you and Washington 1510 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 5: Square Park and you know, there's a lot to do, 1511 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 5: There's a lot of people to see. There's a lot 1512 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 5: of gooches to be washed in public fountains, Like where else. 1513 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Do you get? 1514 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: I do really want to dive into this fountain? Do 1515 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: you want to go next? 1516 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 5: Sir? 1517 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 12: Oh? 1518 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: You wanted to. You want to photograph my hands? Okay, 1519 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 1: well wait, give me give me one, give me one moment, 1520 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: and then we can we can figure that out. 1521 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 12: Ye have beautiful hands. 1522 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's there's a gentleman who wants to photograph 1523 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: my hands. Nobody's ever asked me to photograph my hands before. 1524 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 12: Low key, that might be like kind of a fetish thing. 1525 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: So do you think it's a fetish thing? I don't care. 1526 01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't mind. 1527 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 12: Someone can to ask what are you gonna do with 1528 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 12: the photos? 1529 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 1530 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just enjoy doing it. 1531 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 5: I can't deny that those are very lovely. They're very 1532 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 5: ergonomically shaped. You could hold a lot of different objects 1533 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 5: with those fingers. 1534 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: Do you photograph a lot of people's hands? Really? 1535 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 7: It's it's wonderful to see a possible story within those handes. 1536 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to like I'm gonna 1537 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have would you would you be willing to 1538 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: sit down and tell me more about this hat? You 1539 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,439 Speaker 1: don't want to sit down. I gotta know, I gotta 1540 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: know more about this hand photography business. 1541 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 7: Just short, I mean, I'm happy to show you one 1542 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 7: I did yesterday. 1543 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: Or the day before. 1544 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 7: It's up to you to construct this story that person. 1545 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Wait, who's the last person whose hands that you I 1546 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: don't know anyone. I just do it, and do you 1547 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: just you go up to random people in the park 1548 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: and you ask them to if you can photograph. 1549 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,479 Speaker 7: Walking on the street and other places of the city. 1550 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Yes, can I see the most the best picture of 1551 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: hands that you have. 1552 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 12: You're gonna end up on Wiki hands the last one. 1553 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, show me the last picture of hands that you took. Okay, 1554 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: all right, all right in the meantime, Okay, I'll we'll 1555 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,959 Speaker 1: chat while he's pulling with a hand picture. Has anyone 1556 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: ever asked you for a picture of your hands? 1557 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 5: I've tried to sell pictures of my feet, but I 1558 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 5: had no buyers. I had no takers really, So if 1559 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 5: you know anyone. 1560 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: Have you actually tried to sell pictures I have? 1561 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 12: Maybe it's because I have fat bunyans. 1562 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where did you Where did you try 1563 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: to sell these? 1564 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 7: You know? 1565 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 5: I had like a private Instagram account where I tried 1566 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 5: to sell, but again, like I don't think I was. 1567 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 12: I'm not tech savvy enough to like get into the 1568 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 12: right crowd, you know. 1569 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I would, yeah, because there's definitely a there's definitely 1570 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a business to it. 1571 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 5: Well, if anyone is really interested in asymmetrical bunyan feet, 1572 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 5: I can I have what they're I have the goods. 1573 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: If you genuinely want to, you can. You can uh 1574 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: plug your private feet Instagram if you really want to. 1575 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 5: You know, I think I deact. I let the dream die, 1576 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 5: but you're reigniting the dream. I'm wondering if he's going 1577 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 5: to ask for some some feet picks as well as hands. 1578 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: You can take pictures of my hands If I don't care, 1579 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Let let you know what, let the universe use my 1580 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: body in whatever way is helpful choice. I don't care anymore, 1581 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: Just like let let your. 1582 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 12: Body is your art. 1583 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, my body. I don't know if my body is 1584 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: my art, but my body is. My body is resources. 1585 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: It's carbon. Yeah, it's something if someone can use it 1586 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: to whatever their own. Further that like, if this guy, 1587 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why he wants pictures of my hands, 1588 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: if he really wants to take pictures of my hands 1589 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to you know what, I don't care. I would do whatever. 1590 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 5: Who cares about I'm a little offended he didn't ask 1591 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 5: for a photo of my hand. 1592 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 12: But I mean, I get it, I get it. 1593 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Something special, Nicole, Nicole, is there anything? It's been lovely 1594 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: talking to you. I'm I'm, I'm I'm looking forward to 1595 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: seeing all your hopes and dreams come true. 1596 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 12: Thank you so much. 1597 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1598 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1599 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 12: Wow? I guess like I would like to say, go 1600 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 12: to therapy. 1601 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the real therapy, to real therapy, or. 1602 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 12: You know, just talk to chat gybt about you talk 1603 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 12: to chat. 1604 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: Gybt for therapy a lot. 1605 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I mean it's I would say, it's a supplement. 1606 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 5: I think I need you know, I have O c D, 1607 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 5: so sometimes I just need the computer to tell me 1608 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 5: to stop right, Like, I find that it's useful for that. 1609 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: How does your OCD manifest itself the most? 1610 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 1611 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 5: I have like moral OCD moral moral, like existential moral 1612 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 5: OCD in relationship OCD. 1613 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Wait, what is existential moral OCDA? 1614 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 12: Doesn't it sounds No, it doesn't sound bake at all. 1615 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm big on existential crap. 1616 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 5: Well, I so it manifests for me as like worrying 1617 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 5: about everything I do, negatively impacting either like the environments 1618 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 5: or other people. Oh, sure, Like I used to be 1619 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 5: really obsessive about like plastic use, and I used to 1620 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 5: not let myself drive anywhere just because I'm like, oh, 1621 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 5: but if I like buy this one plastic thing, like 1622 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 5: it's going to exist in the universe forever and it'll 1623 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 5: be my fault and I'll just like spiral out about 1624 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 5: that stuff. 1625 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: But so yeah, it's like that, or like, well, you've 1626 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: heard the phrase, you know what I'm gonna say, No, 1627 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: I guess what. There's there's a phrase that is the 1628 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: answer to this. I don't know, tell people there's no 1629 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: such thing as ethical consumption. 1630 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 12: Yes, of course I know, and that is sort of yeah, 1631 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 12: I and I didn't find that comforting. 1632 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,479 Speaker 1: I heard that. I was like, I'm buying a switch 1633 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to right now. I get me on. 1634 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 12: I'm logged into Amazon. 1635 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting Amazon Prime immediately, I'm getting two of them. 1636 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 12: I'm yeah, ordering everything from Amazon. 1637 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1638 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 5: No, that's really fair, that's really fair. I think what 1639 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 5: helped me was medication and nothing else, honestly. 1640 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Sure what kind of medication. 1641 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm on, I'm on to Alexa and it's a 1642 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 5: SSR and I'm on well viutrin as well. 1643 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta give. 1644 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 12: It will make you sweat. I don't know like that. 1645 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 12: This what you're wearing now already looks a little bit warm. 1646 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm already sweating too much. I yeah, I'm sweating too much. 1647 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 12: Well, are frogs supposed to be a little bit soggy? 1648 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 4: Like? 1649 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 12: Frogs are notoriously wet creatures. 1650 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm a gecko. Oh, it's on the side, the kind 1651 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: that out. 1652 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 12: Don't put that. 1653 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, what's up? 1654 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 5: Man? 1655 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Just look at this guy. You're awesome. Man, this guy's sick. 1656 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 12: I feel like I'm hugging your time. 1657 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: You're not hugging my time. I you know, like I said, 1658 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: what my time? Who cares you guys about anything? 1659 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 5: Dude? Okaystential morality, yeah, existential morality? 1660 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 3: Do you have you have you? 1661 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Do you have you solved it? Or do you still 1662 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: feel No? 1663 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 12: I still feel that way. 1664 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 5: It's just not as debilitating because the meds like make 1665 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 5: me focus on other stuff more. 1666 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 3: I no. 1667 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Hearing you say that, it's making me feel like it's 1668 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: making me feel good because I'm like, all right, maybe 1669 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: the meds could help me not foxate it on fucking 1670 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: whatever the hand the hands gentlemen is leaving you're not leaving, 1671 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: are you. We gotta talk about hands. Okay, all right, 1672 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: we'll come. It's a baby, Okay. 1673 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 12: Did he end up taking a photo of your hands? 1674 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: He didn't end up taking a photo of my hand. 1675 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I wanted him to come talk, and he talked a 1676 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: little bit, but he didn't. He didn't want to. 1677 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 12: I guess he's brave enough to ask for hand. 1678 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious now if he's walking around to 1679 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 1: other people asking him to take pictures of their hands. 1680 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 12: I bet he is sup an eye on that man. 1681 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can take my photo. There's a there's 1682 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: a young lady with a silver nose. Wow, that looks interesting. 1683 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 1: It's moral, you know. I've thought about that before I've gone. 1684 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: I've gone into my head and I'm like, is there 1685 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: any way for me to exist that isn't horrible. 1686 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 12: That isn't harmful to other people? 1687 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1688 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: I think, I think. I think I honestly here. My 1689 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 1: thought process is that, uh, there's so many ways to 1690 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: be actively evil. 1691 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I really are. 1692 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: There's so many ways to be Oh, oh, thank you 1693 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: so much. Uh, oh, thank you. That's so kind. She 1694 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: took a polaroid or a little a princey thingy, that's 1695 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: so kind, that's beautiful. I guess, and let's I guess 1696 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: unless if you're trying. I mean, there's people who are 1697 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: actively attempting to be evil. 1698 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 5: To be evil, yeah, but do they in their minds 1699 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,600 Speaker 5: do they think of it that way, you know? Or 1700 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 5: do they just think, like, well, there's no ethical consumption 1701 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 5: in their capitalism? 1702 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 12: So I even try, you. 1703 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Know, yes, I mean I don't know, like what, like 1704 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 1: what do you I mean you sing opera? Yeah, it's like, 1705 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: well you're not You're not fucking you know, going around 1706 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: beating the ship out of people. 1707 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 5: Like what what? 1708 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 3: What is that bad? 1709 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 12: That's true. I do try not to do that. I 1710 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 12: try to be a good person. 1711 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,799 Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's I think there's strong 1712 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,759 Speaker 1: value in the attempt of attempting. 1713 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 7: I think you do. 1714 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I think you do your best, and then once you 1715 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: once you start getting your own brain and just trying 1716 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: to kill yourself over it, it's like, what are you 1717 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: even doing at that point? Who were you helping by 1718 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 1: just by just shaming yourself. 1719 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,600 Speaker 12: For self flagellation. 1720 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, become self fladulating. 1721 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 3: It's not helpful. 1722 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 5: I think that that is more helpful than saying there's 1723 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 5: no I think that the self flagellation not being helpful 1724 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 5: is probably the most helpful advice, just reminding yourself of that. 1725 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 12: But I don't know. 1726 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 5: For me, it's the meds. That's the only the only 1727 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,639 Speaker 5: real real help that I've found. 1728 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I've been talking about ketamine therapy 1729 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 1: for a while. You've done it. Okay, all right, all right, 1730 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: this interview just got way longer because here's the thing. 1731 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: So I was, I went through some like existential depression, 1732 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, and then I and then I 1733 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: started taking vibe ance and then for one month I 1734 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: felt amazing. In the month of June was the best 1735 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: I had felt in my entire life. 1736 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 3: Good. 1737 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,599 Speaker 1: I went on, I like, saw my friends. I was like, oh, 1738 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm finally back. I finally, after just years of insanity, 1739 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: finally I have a people. You know, you know the phrase, oh, 1740 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: there's no there. Life is continuously rolling a boulder after hill. 1741 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: Not for me, I rolled the boulder on the hill. 1742 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: The bowler's on the top of the hill. It's gonna 1743 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: stay there forever. The month of June, everything's gonna be 1744 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 1: amazing forever. And now it's Li twenty whatever, and I'm like, 1745 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,839 Speaker 1: fucking fuck, my fucking fuck. 1746 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 12: Are you still taking the Vivans? 1747 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1748 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: I still take the vibans, but I'm like, oh no, 1749 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: And so now I'm like and so I was I 1750 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: was feverently researching ketamine therapy before this. Yeah, and so 1751 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 1: now I'm go back. How was your keine therapy? 1752 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 12: It was very interesting. I loved it. I don't know, hmm, 1753 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 12: so I'd alreadyd. 1754 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Did it solve all your problems forever? 1755 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 12: Shockingly? No? But I think it did help. You know 1756 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 12: what it did for me? Tell me it wasn't like 1757 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:34,640 Speaker 12: an immediate. 1758 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,560 Speaker 5: Fix to my depression, but it did shake up some 1759 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 5: things that I think I was not wanting to look at, 1760 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 5: like it definitely brought that to the surface. 1761 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 12: Do you want me to tell you about, like the 1762 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 12: whole experience do you want? 1763 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1764 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 12: Yeah? Like so I did, Yeah, like. 1765 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,560 Speaker 5: A ketemine therapy that took place over the course of 1766 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 5: I think like three months where I would go into 1767 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 5: a clinic twice a week, so I would k hole 1768 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,679 Speaker 5: twice a week. Yeah, I would take time off work 1769 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 5: k hole. My boss would let me go early from 1770 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 5: work to go k hole, and it was. I would 1771 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 5: go into a cozy little room and adminis self administer 1772 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 5: the nasal spray, and then I would just lay back 1773 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 5: on a couch in a dark room and think about 1774 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 5: my life, except I wouldn't really be thinking. 1775 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 12: I was more like falling. 1776 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,640 Speaker 5: And then things that I feel like myself my subconscious 1777 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 5: needed me to examine more closely, would come to the surface, 1778 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 5: and then I would have like a trip that was 1779 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,679 Speaker 5: centered around some issue that I wasn't like I wasn't 1780 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 5: examining enough in my non k hold state. 1781 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting, And I did. 1782 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 5: That for three months. But I know there's a lot 1783 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,719 Speaker 5: of variety to ketymine therapy. Like I've heard of people 1784 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 5: who will take a really low dose of it and 1785 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,719 Speaker 5: go to and like have a therapist there and basically 1786 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 5: have like a talk therapy session with a really low 1787 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 5: dose of ketamine. 1788 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 12: That's not what I did. 1789 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 5: I was just they they locked me in a room 1790 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 5: and said cee in an hour. So I didn't necessarily 1791 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 5: have the like guidance of like, yeah, I want the 1792 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 5: one with the person that I But you know what 1793 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 5: I did, I found a way run. So I would 1794 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 5: schedule my therapy sessions for right after the K hole. 1795 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: Oh very so I would have the K hole. 1796 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 5: And then I would talk about it with my therapist after, 1797 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 5: and she said that those sessions are some of the 1798 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,639 Speaker 5: most productive we'd ever had. 1799 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 1: So right, So, how are you doing now? 1800 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 12: I'm doing much better, doing much better. 1801 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 5: There's there's really something to be said for stability, even 1802 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 5: fleeting stability, the little Do. 1803 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: You feel stable? 1804 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,919 Speaker 5: Yes, I just moved out of a really toxic roommate situation. 1805 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 5: So I have a one bedroom in New York City 1806 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 5: and I'm paying one thousand and three fifty. 1807 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: You pay a thousands girl? Oh about do you pay 1808 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 1: thirteen fifty for a one bedroom in New York City? 1809 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 5: I negotiated the rent down and it was not I 1810 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,560 Speaker 5: did not use my feet picks to do so. 1811 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 12: That was not a bartering chip. 1812 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe you pay you have a one bedroom 1813 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 1: for thirteen to fifteen year. That's insane. 1814 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 12: It was listed for really too. 1815 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 5: It's listed for under two k, which is still good 1816 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 5: for one bedroom here in Manhattan. In Manhattan, Yes, it's 1817 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 5: in Inwood, which I love. I love Inwood, Yes, and yeah, 1818 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 5: it's really north. It's basically as north as you can 1819 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 5: possibly get. While still technically being in Manhattan, but it's 1820 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 5: you know, it's along the one line. It's nice, okay, 1821 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 5: but yeah, I like I met the guy. He's I 1822 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 5: think he's from I think he's from Russia. And he 1823 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 5: he listed the apartment for like under two k and 1824 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 5: I went to visit and I was like, I'm not 1825 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 5: totally sold. And I told him I had another offer 1826 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 5: for like one thousand and three hundred, and he was like, 1827 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 5: if we match that price, would you come and live 1828 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 5: in our building? 1829 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,759 Speaker 1: Do you have an offer for a thousand? 1830 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 12: The truth is out. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but the 1831 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 12: lease has been signed. 1832 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 1: So so okay, what else is stable with you? 1833 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 7: Now? 1834 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,599 Speaker 12: What else is stable? Well? 1835 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 5: I think so, I mean just having my own space, 1836 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 5: that's a that's a that's its own stability. Like I'm 1837 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 5: more comfortable isolation, I think just because of like the 1838 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 5: way my brain works. I think I function better when 1839 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 5: I have a lot of a loan time, So that 1840 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,560 Speaker 5: for me is like a good source of stability. I 1841 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 5: am in a lot of student debt, but I mean 1842 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 5: that's consistent in like money coming in, even if it 1843 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 5: is loans that I'll probably never be able to pay 1844 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 5: off on. 1845 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 12: A professor's salary. But you know it's all good. So 1846 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,600 Speaker 12: you know, I have the financial stability. 1847 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 5: I just. 1848 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 12: I have a lot of a lot of stuff in 1849 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,719 Speaker 12: the works. I'll say, there's a lot of things bubbling. 1850 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 3: There's po. 1851 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,719 Speaker 1: Switch pot excited about I'm excited about. 1852 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,719 Speaker 12: The piano tuning pot. 1853 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. 1854 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 5: I'm excited about I'm excited about starting to teach teach again. 1855 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 5: I'm excited about that, teach voice lessons to kids. What 1856 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 5: else am I excited about? 1857 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1858 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm excited to be in the city in the summer, 1859 01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 5: with a place of my own, and the only responsibility 1860 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 5: I have today is installing a shelf. 1861 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm happy to hear that things are 1862 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: going well for you. Everyone. Pretty much everyone who sat 1863 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: down to talk today seemed as though they were up. 1864 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 5: Yeah it's an upday' I mean, like this is the 1865 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 5: if you're gonna have an update in New York City, 1866 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 5: Like this is where all the people who are up 1867 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 5: are gonna come. 1868 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,559 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I mean, well this is a place 1869 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,800 Speaker 1: where you go to get up. 1870 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1871 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 12: Well, I I was just planning on walking through here. 1872 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,679 Speaker 12: I wasn't even to be honest. 1873 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 5: I was sort of lying to at the beginning of this, 1874 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 5: saying that I came for the Gooch exposure. 1875 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 12: But I actually was not. 1876 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,600 Speaker 1: I didn't think that you came here it. 1877 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 5: Oh you didn't take me literally, No, yeah, no, that 1878 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 5: was that was an exaggeration of the truth I did. 1879 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 5: I did recognize this fountain. Then I said, oh, that's 1880 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,599 Speaker 5: the fountain where the guy was watching his goo chat. 1881 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought this was the friend's fountain. 1882 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 12: I mean, you know a song by any other name. 1883 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 1: What's your name again, Nicole? Nicole, Nicole. This has been 1884 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 1: a great conversation. I very much enjoyed talking to you. 1885 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: I hope that I said this already when I when 1886 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I was in first gonna end this conversation, But then 1887 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 1: you start talking about ketamine. 1888 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 12: I hope out. 1889 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try I think I'm gonna try it out. 1890 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. 1891 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 5: I don't think you'll have a bad experience. If that's 1892 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 5: what's been like, you've not wanted to fully. 1893 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: No, that's not been the main reason. There's a bunch 1894 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: of reasons I would not mind flick. But I'm gonna okay, Well, 1895 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know right now, by my, my, my. 1896 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 5: My. 1897 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Main form of SSRI right now has been this switch to. 1898 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna see how that works. 1899 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 12: I haven't tried that one yet, but I've heard good thing. 1900 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know. I wasn't gonna get it. I 1901 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 1: I thought that. I looked at the new Donkey Kong 1902 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 1: game and I was like, who is this guy? This 1903 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,880 Speaker 1: is not my guy. This is a different guy. This 1904 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 1: is not Donkey Kong. 1905 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 5: Oh. 1906 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard, because they redesigned it. But now now, 1907 01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,600 Speaker 1: apparently I don't know. 1908 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 12: Because Donkey Kong woke, she woke. 1909 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 7: Now I don't. 1910 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's woke. He looked a little like, 1911 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 1: actually he's less woke. His eyes are smaller, Okay, Okay, 1912 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:57,599 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, smaller eyes, smaller eyes conservative, So he's uh, 1913 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't know. Apparently it's good. 1914 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tonight. I'm gonna. 1915 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 12: I'm surprised you were even able to get a switch to. 1916 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 1: I waited in line this morning this morning. Yeah, I 1917 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 1: got connected to my inner child this morning. I was like, 1918 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 1: I haven't waited in line to buy a video game 1919 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine. 1920 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 5: I don't think kenymine is gonna top that experience for you. 1921 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's not well. 1922 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'll do ketamine and 1923 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,600 Speaker 1: play Donkey Kong and that'll work. Yeah that, you know. 1924 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 12: I never tried that, but I think if I tried 1925 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 12: that that much. 1926 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Actually, that's how the guy from Friends died. So I 1927 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. 1928 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 12: But oh really I didn't know that. 1929 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Okay, he was playing Actually I don't know if I 1930 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know what he was doing, but he was doing 1931 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 1: he was doing ketamine outside of some form of record, 1932 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 1: outside of a medical. 1933 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 12: Are you being for real? 1934 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1935 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1936 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1937 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah wow, Okay, but you know, well yeah, 1938 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,560 Speaker 5: I advocate for the safe use of ketamine. 1939 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I advocate for all safe good things. 1940 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1941 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be fun. Everyone 1942 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 1: in this park is gonna be fine. Everyone's up. So 1943 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 1: everyone's good. We're all getting switched to s. We're all 1944 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:12,799 Speaker 1: uh getting beautiful families. Wow, we're all getting a wonderful 1945 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 1: fulfilling careers. Yes, yes, we're all getting ten million dollars. 1946 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 12: We're all getting our bunions shaved. 1947 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Off, getting our bunions shaved off. 1948 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,560 Speaker 12: Have you ever looked at what that surgery is like? No, 1949 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 12: I haven't either. 1950 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 1: It's fucking crocodile, dundee, dude, check this guy out. Oh 1951 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,719 Speaker 1: never mind, never mind, I said, sorry, Yes, I said, 1952 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I said it's crocodile, dundee. Check this guy out because 1953 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: you looked kind of like you had the Oh thanks, 1954 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 1: but I love your fit of course. Hey you too, man. 1955 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 12: I think that guy was trying to wrangle you. 1956 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,839 Speaker 1: You're trying to wrangle me. Yeah, it looks like the crocodile. 1957 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would watch it. 1958 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: We didn't have the hat. 1959 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 12: There's a lot of predators around here. 1960 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 5: I've noticed, like there's been two people who've come up 1961 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,799 Speaker 5: to you while I've been in this chair who've wanted 1962 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:52,640 Speaker 5: something from you. 1963 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know where the hands pick guy is. 1964 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: I gotta find them or maybe I don't. 1965 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 12: Just you should be safe, you know. 1966 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 1: I promised him a hand pick. I feel bad now 1967 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: if I don't give them my hands what's your name? 1968 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: One more time? 1969 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,439 Speaker 12: I'm Nicole. I'm so sorry. 1970 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to be sorry for anything. 1971 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 12: No, I don't have anywhere else to be such a 1972 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 12: yappy mood right now too. 1973 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I started, honestly, honestly kind of at the very very 1974 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 1: very beginning of this podcast, I was like, Fuck, I 1975 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 1: don't think I have the energy to talk today, but 1976 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: I you know, we're gonna try, but. 1977 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,640 Speaker 2: Towards and you. 1978 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Normally what happens is the first half I have no energy. 1979 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Though the first half I have a lot of energy, 1980 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: The second half I have no energy. Today's podcast was different. Today. 1981 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: I had a lot of less energy. The first half morega. 1982 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: The second half, Oh good, And now I feel good 1983 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: good you know what, Nicole, Yeah, everything's fine, Everything. 1984 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 5: Is fine, Everything is going to be fine. And I 1985 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,719 Speaker 5: really feel that today I feel like there's an energy 1986 01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 5: in the air. Sorry, I just caught a glimpse of 1987 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 5: like the shoe underneath the gecko foot, and I feel 1988 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 5: like I just saw like a peek behind the curtain. 1989 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Faz shoes they break in one month. I buy a 1990 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: new one every month. I should just get a nicer 1991 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: pair of shoes that don't break down. But I'm lazy, 1992 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 1: and I is there a. 1993 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 12: Specific reason why, like that pair of shoes from Amazon. 1994 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I just go on Amazon and search shoes. I'm not 1995 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 1: a fashion man. 1996 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 12: You could have fooled me. 1997 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: Because of the suit. Yeah, I wonder if there's a 1998 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 1: guy over here. He's holding a box of cookies. I'm 1999 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 1: wondering if if I let him sit down, if maybe 2000 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 1: he'll give me I think, I think Do you think 2001 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: you will? 2002 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 12: Yeah? I think you should take a chance. 2003 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,519 Speaker 1: Enjoyed, Nicole? Is anything else? I say the people of 2004 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: the computer before we go to the people of. 2005 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 12: The computer, be boot boom bop be boot boop be bop. 2006 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: Don't know what that means. 2007 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 12: Don't know what that means? 2008 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 5: Computers, I speak, I speak computer, and yeah, I think 2009 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 5: all computers will understand. 2010 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 1: I'll throw that in Google Translate later. 2011 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 12: Good you should. 2012 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 1: I'll see her in the universe. I will, I will. 2013 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 1: Apparently they're worth Money's your name, Yuki? You get nice 2014 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: to meet you. I actually don't know if I have time. Well, 2015 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,160 Speaker 1: let's do a quick wrap up, shall we. Okay, one 2016 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: thing that you want to say to the people listening 2017 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: up to this podcast before we go anything. 2018 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 9: Think about yourself first and only really Yeah, fun. 2019 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: Now I want to talk to you about more things. 2020 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: We don't have. How much power batter is on this guy? 2021 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: Seventeen percent? Okay? 2022 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 3: Cool? 2023 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 7: All right? 2024 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: Richall yu gi. Yeah, why why should we only think 2025 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,640 Speaker 1: about ourselves. 2026 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 9: Because no one will will do it? 2027 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 2028 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 13: I mean at some point, even your parents think about themselves, 2029 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 13: I know, and they they should also live their own life. 2030 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,320 Speaker 13: I know, because I need to understand that they also 2031 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 13: need to be like themselves and continue their lives at 2032 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 13: some point, and so you need to cut down when 2033 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 13: they don't. 2034 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need So you need to. 2035 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 13: Do it yourself and think about yourself for your future 2036 01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 13: life and et cetera. 2037 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: It is very true. I you know, I don't know. 2038 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I think my most of my life, I thought of 2039 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: myself as like a staunch individualist, where I was like, 2040 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,599 Speaker 1: I gotta make sure you know, I'm really like mainly 2041 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 1: thinking about my own life. And then I was like, no, 2042 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,720 Speaker 1: the key to life is community, and like how you 2043 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 1: want to integrate yourself with other people and you want 2044 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 1: to your life is only me as good as the 2045 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: other people in it. And then I flip back and 2046 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 1: forth and I'm like, well shit, you know it's true. 2047 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 1: You as you get older, you start to realize, Okay, 2048 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: your parents love you and that's great and you and 2049 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 1: if you're lucky, you grow up that being the default 2050 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 1: your parents love you, Your parents care about you. Then 2051 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 1: as you get older, the amount of people who are 2052 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 1: like you can have friends and you're gonna have people 2053 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,840 Speaker 1: in the peripheral of your life that you see, but 2054 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: the amount of people who are in your life starts 2055 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,599 Speaker 1: to decrease and you start to slowly realize like you're 2056 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 1: exact the only one in your life. So you got 2057 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 1: to make sure unless if you know, you have a 2058 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: wife or kids or something like that. 2059 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 13: But and I think the better you love yourself, the 2060 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 13: better you'll be loved on your group and on your community. Yeah, 2061 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 13: because you will like put the limits and all the 2062 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 13: boundaries that you want and it will be like the 2063 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 13: healthier relationships, which means that you first think about yourself. 2064 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 13: And for that, I will encourage you everyone to go 2065 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 13: to a therapist. I'm from friends and like, this is 2066 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 13: not something that's cool yet over there. 2067 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh, therapy is not cool in friends? 2068 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 9: No, not yet? 2069 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,679 Speaker 1: Why not yet? It's going to become cool? 2070 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 9: Yeah of course. I mean at some point people will 2071 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 9: go crazy and you will have to go. 2072 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 1: Why do you think therapy is not cool in France? 2073 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 9: I think it's still like something that you put as 2074 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 9: crazy people. 2075 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, for real and people don't understand the value of 2076 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,840 Speaker 13: being good with yourself and go into a therapy. 2077 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 9: I'm a teacher. One of the things every time my 2078 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 9: students come to me like with issues. 2079 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 13: Blah blah blah, go to therapists, especially like immigrants, children 2080 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,760 Speaker 13: and blah blah blah. Then to go because the duality 2081 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 13: between their lives in friends or in any country, plus 2082 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 13: their origins or parents' origins, it's a messing up moment 2083 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:11,759 Speaker 13: of their lives. 2084 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 1: That's you do you go to a therapist? What are 2085 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,200 Speaker 1: you talking about with your therapists? 2086 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 9: My parents? Mostly because I think this is the main 2087 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 9: issue for everyone. 2088 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 1: The main issue for everyone is their parents. 2089 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 13: How so, I mean because the parents lives their life 2090 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 13: for the first time as you are. So they don't 2091 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,360 Speaker 13: know how to drive sometimes their life and they have 2092 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 13: to learn with you and when they do it. And 2093 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 13: they were not like us now with all these elements 2094 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 13: that you can have on the internet and everything. So 2095 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 13: they learned not good on a good way. 2096 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So everything starts with parents because you learn from 2097 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 1: your parents, and how your parents treat you is kind 2098 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 1: of how you feel exactly. Yeah, that makes a lot 2099 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Do 2100 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 1: you have good parents. 2101 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 3: Try? 2102 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Okay, they try to give kids. I don't have yet. Okay, 2103 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: but you want to have kids, Yeah, what are you gonna? 2104 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 1: What do you want to impart upon your children. 2105 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 13: To love themselves, to be confident enough to be like 2106 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 13: in a loving environment where they can share with me? 2107 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,200 Speaker 13: Because I think I was not able to share with 2108 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,400 Speaker 13: my parents when I was not like feeling good or 2109 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 13: when something was not good for me and they didn't know. 2110 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,560 Speaker 13: So I cannot blame them because I was not on 2111 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,360 Speaker 13: a safe place to share. Yeah, so I want to 2112 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 13: have like for my kids, if I have ones, a 2113 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 13: safe place for them to share anything they want to 2114 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:39,760 Speaker 13: share with me. 2115 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I feel bad because you're you know, you're 2116 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 1: really being very vulnerable. You're being very vulnerable with me, 2117 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 1: with me right now, and I am like, I'm very 2118 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: engrossed in this conversation. But there's at least like ten 2119 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 1: percent of my brain it's like I wonder if I 2120 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 1: wonder if he's gonna let me have a cookie. 2121 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course you know you can. 2122 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,000 Speaker 3: You can have them. 2123 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 13: But because we didn't like but you didn't like them, no, 2124 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 13: because we we had like to test it because we 2125 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 13: were visiting, so we had. 2126 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 1: Like, can I see what? Can I see what you 2127 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: gotten there? Okay? So you tried it? 2128 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 2: You didn't like it? Andy? 2129 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 9: No, it was one with lemon and I don't even 2130 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 9: know this one. 2131 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh this is like a that's like a cream. 2132 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, we didn't like beat on him, so you can try. 2133 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 2134 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2135 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Here, well Norris you did Why didn't you like him? 2136 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:23,560 Speaker 9: I don't know. 2137 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: But you're visiting from France? 2138 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. 2139 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 2: Are you? 2140 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: How long are you in New York for? 2141 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 13: So we arrived on like last Wednesday and we are 2142 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 13: here until next Saturday. 2143 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 1: What do you observe about New York? 2144 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 7: Oh? 2145 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:40,920 Speaker 9: So so loud? 2146 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 1: Where in France do you live? 2147 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 3: Pi? 2148 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but how do you compare New York to Paris? 2149 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 13: It's so loud, people are like always screaming or stuff 2150 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 13: like this. Uh, but more generous and more friendly. People 2151 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 13: are more generous and friendly here. Of course I'm from Paris, 2152 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 13: so I mean the less Okay, for the first time 2153 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,320 Speaker 13: in New York, No second time? 2154 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 1: Okay. Why do you guys come to New York? 2155 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:05,920 Speaker 9: Especially living in Tampa? 2156 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 13: So I come often in the US and it has 2157 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 13: been three years now, so I wanted to come back 2158 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:11,720 Speaker 13: very nice. 2159 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2160 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: What are the French think of Americans? Do they think 2161 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 1: that we're stupid? You can say yes, if that's the truth. 2162 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 9: I don't think that there. 2163 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 13: They can't think about this because we're that stupid as 2164 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,680 Speaker 13: much as American could be. 2165 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean's goods. 2166 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 13: I mean, we almost elected the guy who never worked 2167 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,720 Speaker 13: in his life, but for real, like never in his life. 2168 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 13: He's famous for probably shitting in his pants on this 2169 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,680 Speaker 13: only year of college that he did. 2170 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 1: He's famous for shitting in his pants. Really, what's this 2171 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:42,559 Speaker 1: guy's name? 2172 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 13: This is the rumor that we have, and he has 2173 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 13: been the first runner of the European election last year year? 2174 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:49,679 Speaker 3: Really? 2175 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Can you so we are not Macrown? 2176 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 3: Right? 2177 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:52,640 Speaker 6: No? 2178 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 9: No, that's not mcons Bardilla Okay yeah, but. 2179 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,840 Speaker 1: And who did you vote for him? 2180 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 9: Of course not? 2181 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Is he like them? Is he like the French Trump? 2182 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 9: I can't even say if he's the French Trump or 2183 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 9: he's far right? 2184 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's it. 2185 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 13: I mean, this is not the same way that it 2186 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,040 Speaker 13: works because we have so many political groups and everything. 2187 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Do do your friends go to therapy or is it 2188 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: mainly just you? 2189 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 3: No? 2190 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 13: No, some of my friends goes, and hopefully most of 2191 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 13: them will go at some point. Okay, I'm doing this 2192 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 13: lobbying for them to go. Mm hmmmm, because I'm paying 2193 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 13: now for them? 2194 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 1: Are you you're paying for your friends? 2195 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 9: You're paying because they come to me to have like 2196 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 9: therapy conversations. 2197 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh, you're the therapist exact. 2198 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 9: Either of me or someone else. 2199 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, So are you a good person to go 2200 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,799 Speaker 1: to for for therapy? 2201 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 9: I don't know. I'm not gonna judge myself. 2202 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, to do a lot of people to I mean, 2203 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 1: if you're if a lot of people go to you 2204 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: for therapy it pints, you're probably good at it or 2205 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 1: else they wouldn't come to you, like we have to 2206 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:55,040 Speaker 1: ask them. 2207 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:55,600 Speaker 6: I don't know. 2208 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Do do a lot of your friends go to you for? 2209 01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 1: What kinds of things? Do your friends ask you for 2210 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 1: advice about? 2211 01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 13: Mostly with their family, because we all struggle with this 2212 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 13: energy we don't have with our parents and immigrant parents. 2213 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,280 Speaker 9: My parents are from Turkey. 2214 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 13: They came to friends, so it's not the same way 2215 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 13: that we see et cetera and everything. 2216 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,120 Speaker 9: So we mostly have the same issues, all of them. 2217 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys all have very similar like family 2218 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 1: lives exactly. How old are you? You're three four? Okay, 2219 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 1: and so all your friends like and your friends are 2220 01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 1: all kind of same age, yeah exactly, and so you're 2221 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,519 Speaker 1: all like from like similar like generation exactly. 2222 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, the nineties we grew up with Internet, coming 2223 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 13: forms and everything. 2224 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Are you still friends with are still not friends? 2225 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 2: Of course? 2226 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: You're friends with your friends, are you? Are you still 2227 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: like close with very friends? You get to see them 2228 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 1: very often? 2229 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 2230 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:43,439 Speaker 9: Of course. 2231 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Do they all live in Paris? 2232 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, we live all on the same area. 2233 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 1: That's so fucking now. How long have you been friends 2234 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:49,760 Speaker 1: with these people? 2235 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:51,960 Speaker 9: Fifteen twenty years? 2236 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,599 Speaker 1: It's so nice, man. Yeah, that's a real blessing. I wish, 2237 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, I have a group of like there's nine 2238 01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,640 Speaker 1: of us, and like, you know, I've been friends with 2239 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: them for a long time. But you know, we all 2240 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,559 Speaker 1: kind of we're all like in the same like East Coast. 2241 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 1: But like if everyone lived in the same neighborhood, I 2242 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:07,040 Speaker 1: mean that would beautiful. 2243 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2244 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,440 Speaker 13: I think we tried to live in the same neighborhood 2245 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,680 Speaker 13: because also when you're in friends, it's not like here 2246 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 13: you have to live in Paris to have better jobs 2247 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 13: and everything. So it's all mostly on the same places, 2248 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 13: so then you choose to be still with them. I 2249 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 13: have some of them living in other cities, but it's 2250 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 13: mostly all in Paris. 2251 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,639 Speaker 1: What are you most excited for in life moving forward? 2252 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,640 Speaker 9: I think I've been kids at some point. Yeah, I 2253 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:34,719 Speaker 9: would love having kids. 2254 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've learned a lot from your 2255 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,160 Speaker 1: own parents that you can yeah, either either what to. 2256 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:40,759 Speaker 9: Do or what not to exactly exactly. 2257 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, how how often do you talk to your parents? 2258 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 9: Almost like every two days or every day? 2259 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 3: Then? 2260 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't be honest, Like, all right, you sat 2261 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: down and you were like, you were like, you have 2262 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to be, you must be. 2263 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,040 Speaker 9: It has been like six years now that I'm working on. 2264 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 1: This, so well, I guess well the way you said 2265 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: when you said that, and you were like you might 2266 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 1: man can only rely on himself. And it's like you 2267 01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,760 Speaker 1: have a you have a great community, you're very you 2268 01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,280 Speaker 1: have a wife, you have your pet, friends all around 2269 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400 Speaker 1: you have you know, you don't seem to rely be 2270 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean you know what I mean, But like you 2271 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,599 Speaker 1: seem like you have a lot of people in your life. 2272 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:15,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2273 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:20,280 Speaker 9: With bundies that I fixed, it's better now. 2274 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's great, man cool, Thank you so much. 2275 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 2: Of course. 2276 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: What's your name again, yugi Yi? Thank you very much 2277 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,799 Speaker 1: for sitting down and talking to man. I really appreciate. 2278 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 2279 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 1: people before we go? Julie is the best rapper in Frience? 2280 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 1: Who is jew Jewel? Nice to meet you man later. Well, folks, 2281 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,360 Speaker 1: I think that was it. I think those were our interviews. 2282 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 7: For the day. 2283 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 1: I think they were pretty good. Who do we talk to? 2284 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:50,320 Speaker 1: We talked to the Yo Yo man. We talked to 2285 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:55,719 Speaker 1: the elementary school principal. We talked to the opera singer lady. 2286 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 1: We talked to uh the general, the other the gentleman 2287 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: at the bike talking about getting sober as well. That 2288 01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 1: was a good That was a good group of people. 2289 01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 1: This was a good episode. I hope you guys enjoyed it. 2290 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm debating, Oh this guy left his cookies. I'm I'm 2291 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: debating if I should eat a stranger's half eaten cookies. 2292 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm not above it. I'm really not above it. I'm 2293 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,679 Speaker 1: really really not above it. I'm I might be above 2294 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 1: doing it on camera, but i'm i'm I'm I'm not 2295 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 1: above it. So I might do it. So anyway, thank 2296 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,639 Speaker 1: you guys for listening to this. If you're tomorrow, I'm 2297 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,679 Speaker 1: gonna drop my uh my, uh well, if you're watching 2298 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 1: this on YouTube, it's already on here. But if you're 2299 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 1: listening to this on the podcast tomorrow, I'm gonna drop 2300 01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,320 Speaker 1: my Tijuana dance battle video on Spotify, so you should 2301 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 1: check that out. But anyway, uh that's it. What another 2302 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: beautiful day of talking to people. Say safe, say words 2303 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,040 Speaker 1: in the comments. If you enjoyed these conversations. I want 2304 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: to hear what people have to say. I sit down 2305 01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,679 Speaker 1: here for for for a bunch of time talking to people. 2306 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 1: I want to hear what people have to say. I'm 2307 01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 1: curious if you guys have thoughts about the conversations. You 2308 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 1: have thoughts about live your life. Give a like, give 2309 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 1: a comment, give a subscribe, Spotify comments, YouTube comments, whatever. Okay, 2310 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,559 Speaker 1: that's it. I don't have anything else to say. I'm 2311 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 1: a get go, I'm getting out of here. I'm gonna 2312 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 1: go play my switch to and eat a stranger's half 2313 01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 1: eating cookie and try not to think. All right, gak 2314 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,799 Speaker 1: bless thank you very much, see you around the universe.