Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of Nerdifice Order. I'm your
Speaker 1: host if you want away, and sitting across from me,
Speaker 1: as always is Danny Fernandez. Copy years. Okay, we're on.
Speaker 1: We're finally ended right at the same time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it was orchestrated. We made it. We made
Speaker 1: it happen for once in our lives never again. Please
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Speaker 1: It's time it's your boy. Uh see, I made that
Speaker 1: right today We today is going to be a fun
Speaker 1: subject and it's timely. It's timely. The news just broke
Speaker 1: this past last week. Yeah, you know, there are definitely
Speaker 1: folks who are like, what the heck? Well, now you're
Speaker 1: hyped because you're like, oh, I finally can figure out
Speaker 1: about the the eternals, you know, the eternals d E turnals.
Speaker 1: I was hyped one because Kumel very excited to see
Speaker 1: him and Selma Hiak who doesn't age, and I'm just
Speaker 1: so she is mommy and she is also highly recommend
Speaker 1: checking out her Instagram because she's emo as hell. She's
Speaker 1: I kid you not. If he she had she had
Speaker 1: several posts of her just being washed away by the
Speaker 1: ocean and it was it was like and somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this a photo shoot? She's like, no, this is
Speaker 1: just on vacation and it was just her being in
Speaker 1: the water and letting the water like rush over her face.
Speaker 1: It was the most emo thing ever. And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I used to make my friends do this in like
Speaker 1: the woods or something with me, like surrounded by leaves,
Speaker 1: taking like the most emo my chemical romance. Avril Levine
Speaker 1: of course, like you, we can't leave out my man's
Speaker 1: paperboy ak Brian Tyree him. Yeah, yeah, just and which
Speaker 1: he was pointing out he is now part of the
Speaker 1: m c U and the DC universe because he's going
Speaker 1: to be in the Joker as well. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: part of all the universe and he's in in the
Speaker 1: Spider Verse. Yeah, all the all the all the universes,
Speaker 1: the Sony now the now Sony Universe. But without further ado,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to introduce our guests. Great all around dude,
Speaker 1: host of the Mad Titan podcast, stand up comic funny.
Speaker 1: You've seen him on screen Junks, You've seen him on Collider,
Speaker 1: You've seen him literally anywhere you can see nerdy people
Speaker 1: do nerdy things. Give it up for Jay Washington. Yet,
Speaker 1: happy to be here, very thank you for having me. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be on here with you. Was there
Speaker 1: anyone that you were really excited that was announced in
Speaker 1: the internals? I think the paper Boy announcing was so dope.
Speaker 1: And the Game of Thrones reunion to basically put Rob
Speaker 1: Stark and John Snow back together, Yeah, you know that
Speaker 1: was kind of dope. Um, the Stark boys at it
Speaker 1: again again to get Angelina Jolie and see you and
Speaker 1: not just in a cameo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because you hear Angelie Joe, You're like, all right, she's
Speaker 1: gonna have a small role. No, she's a main part
Speaker 1: of this. And you're like, okay, but there's no way
Speaker 1: she would take a smart because she is Maleficent, so
Speaker 1: she's in that Disney universe. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people just want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the m c U now because it's
Speaker 1: so big. So you know, some people like, look, I'll
Speaker 1: just take a role whatever you got and to have
Speaker 1: her and like you said, sell my Kiyak out of
Speaker 1: all people like I could see eventually Angela and Jolie
Speaker 1: being being maleficent. But then sem mahare like yo, somebody
Speaker 1: was like, this is what you should do. That was
Speaker 1: probably her. Her agent was like, yo, I got the
Speaker 1: perfect thing. And the fact that they did because of
Speaker 1: what she's playing, uh leam MQ and Laura Riddolf, what
Speaker 1: they're doing with their characters. Their genda been in three
Speaker 1: of the eternals. So that's so dope, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying That they've shown marble showing like, look, we
Speaker 1: don't we don't have to stick to the norm what
Speaker 1: the comic books were. You know, we can change a
Speaker 1: man to a woman or vice versa. That's why it
Speaker 1: really bothered before we hop into a we're geeking out
Speaker 1: about That's what really bothered me about She When the
Speaker 1: she Hulk announcement happened and I tweeted, oh, I would
Speaker 1: love to have like a beefy actress, like that's just
Speaker 1: thick like playing it, and they were like, um, one,
Speaker 1: she's like she's always she Hulk, she doesn't transform, which
Speaker 1: is not true. Um. And then because there are iterations
Speaker 1: where she chooses to huh and she yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it takes two seconds to google but whatever. Um and
Speaker 1: then it just seemed like people were making up excuses
Speaker 1: for her to not be thicker. I just pointed out,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, all of our female superheroes live action,
Speaker 1: they're all size six and under, which you know is
Speaker 1: I'm not body shaming at all. I think that's fine,
Speaker 1: but I would love to see if we're talking about
Speaker 1: I want to see a six five woman beat the
Speaker 1: dog crabbing. Also, a lot of people forget about she Hulk.
Speaker 1: She has a hyper sex drive. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things about her character. Because of her getting at Gammer,
Speaker 1: it just enhanced her sex drive. So I want to
Speaker 1: yo gamma radiation make you want the Hulk was immune. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: we don't know how much the Hope was smashing on
Speaker 1: scar like, but it just was so they were like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't she be Like wouldn't she like people are just
Speaker 1: coming up with But also they were like, how how
Speaker 1: are we going to ever find an actress? Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Also, the w W E y'all
Speaker 1: were so quick to take in freaking the Rock and
Speaker 1: John Cena and um Dave Batista like you're so willing
Speaker 1: to take in them and believe them. But like when
Speaker 1: it comes to a woman that maybe a lot of
Speaker 1: the women now are shorter in the w w E.
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. She hope doesn't necessarily if
Speaker 1: we're gender bending, or if we're like, don't have to
Speaker 1: go entirely off source material. I don't think she has
Speaker 1: to be eleven naturally. I think that you can put
Speaker 1: her in something. I think that we can cheat the
Speaker 1: camera a little bit, maybe, like we put Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: on Apple boxes for everything. You know, Camara is green
Speaker 1: and it's an interesting green and like you guys are
Speaker 1: a chill with Thanos, Like you know, when everyone saw
Speaker 1: him was like whoa what and then you guys just
Speaker 1: everyone loves it. So anyways, what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 1: please just be open, for the love of God, Like
Speaker 1: just you don't have to have you're talking about the
Speaker 1: world today. We're being open is the thing that people
Speaker 1: just don't want to do. It just felt like when
Speaker 1: I asked for thicker actresses, everybody had a reason to
Speaker 1: not cast them, and I was like, but I want
Speaker 1: to she hulk that can crush my head with her thighs,
Speaker 1: Like that's what I want to see, and um, anyways,
Speaker 1: I think that's good representation having different body types absolutely,
Speaker 1: for like, let that look, let me taste up. If
Speaker 1: the dude don't want a woman with thick throw with
Speaker 1: you in your life, yeah, we'll have different body types
Speaker 1: up there. That would be great. So we started a
Speaker 1: podcast with what We're sinking out about? Jay? What are
Speaker 1: you sinking out about? This? For me, it was the
Speaker 1: announcement of the d twenty three shows. But on top
Speaker 1: of that, it's not even really comic book and nerdy stuff.
Speaker 1: It's this Little Brother album that came out made The
Speaker 1: Loyal Watch album has been so dope. I've never played
Speaker 1: something and repeat so many times in my life in
Speaker 1: my life. And also, I just saw the Titan season
Speaker 1: two trailer. Now in the Fanta season one but I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, y'all got me with this one? You
Speaker 1: got me with that? Seems to be like the general
Speaker 1: consensus is people like, oh, I wasn't no season one
Speaker 1: the season dude, this is this one gotta look like
Speaker 1: heat right here. Well, because I'm a death stroke fan,
Speaker 1: So anytime you bring death Stroke in, as long as
Speaker 1: you can do them justice, I'm good with it, and
Speaker 1: East Time Morale seems to be a good choice for them,
Speaker 1: the way they got him looking like Slade Wilson. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of seeing what they do in
Speaker 1: the series. Because the whole tightened series, if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, it is literally just how Dick Grayson becomes
Speaker 1: night Wing. That is literally a whole pot of the show.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's just Dick Grayson's
Speaker 1: evolution in the night Wing, but we have to have
Speaker 1: these other steps along the way. So I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. I'm a fan of what the DC universe
Speaker 1: is trying to do minus Swamp thing. So because Wolf
Speaker 1: that was rough, But you didn't like Swamping. Hell No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Because it didn't. I understand it got canceled early,
Speaker 1: and I understand that also there was a lot of
Speaker 1: interference from Warner Brothers from studio, but the show didn't
Speaker 1: have an identity. You brought James wanting to make a
Speaker 1: horror show, so by that, you know, by that standard,
Speaker 1: I was automatically in. But then you saw the first
Speaker 1: episode it was horror based. Second episode was like, all right,
Speaker 1: this is this exposition now, But then it switched over
Speaker 1: and it became more about aby R Cane as opposed
Speaker 1: to swamp Thing, and I'm like, I don't need the
Speaker 1: story of aby Ar Cane. This is not her show.
Speaker 1: It's about swamp thing. And then I again with it
Speaker 1: being cut. I understand, but they were doing so many
Speaker 1: things that where they knew they were cut, they were
Speaker 1: setting up like, hey, we might get a season two.
Speaker 1: No you're not. You set up so much unnecessarily, so
Speaker 1: that frustrated me with that dzang, that's cool and we
Speaker 1: gotta do a swamp thing, you know that that was good.
Speaker 1: I guess for me the big thing I was geeking
Speaker 1: out about it. It has been like a good music
Speaker 1: drop because you had a little brother, let's not forget
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott Rady and then uh, there's so much like
Speaker 1: it's just been lots of music too in the summer
Speaker 1: strong too, So that's definitely been fun. I think the
Speaker 1: personal thing I've been learned out about is uh, Naomi
Speaker 1: is really in the PJ mask and like it's it's
Speaker 1: been her life. But it's been real interesting to watch
Speaker 1: because it's the first time of like watching her for
Speaker 1: the first time experience like fandom where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I'm into this and I want every piece of this,
Speaker 1: I want every juice of it. And then I then
Speaker 1: I kind of started getting like hyper philosophical with they
Speaker 1: where it was like, oh, p J. Mask is like
Speaker 1: you know superheroes on training wheels for kids, because they're
Speaker 1: like getting like the archetypes, the enemies, they like the
Speaker 1: tropes and so like, I'm really excited to you. As
Speaker 1: we head into uh sp October, get a Surpriser with
Speaker 1: her little outlet outfit. My daughter loves it to My
Speaker 1: daughter is going crazy about I had a DVD they
Speaker 1: sent me. Wanted the company send me one. I didn't
Speaker 1: even remember requesting it, and I faced time my daughter.
Speaker 1: I was like I got something that She was like
Speaker 1: what I just mask? Yeah, like dad, he's gonna send it.
Speaker 1: Calm damn. Yeah, it's it's been wild like she uh
Speaker 1: just in her room. I set up the bed and
Speaker 1: then I give her like p J Mass betting and
Speaker 1: like she kept like it was like a p J
Speaker 1: Mass pillow with all three of them on on it,
Speaker 1: like yo, and like she kept like fluffing her pillow
Speaker 1: and like looking at it and putting it Like I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well this is the first time, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's jumping from that. Like now she's at
Speaker 1: the age where like you can give them a gift
Speaker 1: and they they do appreciate, like they're like, I like
Speaker 1: this that that you did? Good dad? Yeah? Is she
Speaker 1: into Daniel Tiger? Now? Was she? She'll mention him? You
Speaker 1: know she she mentions him like yeah, like they definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, I know they're probably communicating about that at
Speaker 1: school because she mentions him, but she's not asking for
Speaker 1: him on the screen. And when Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 1: We were in the car and she made me like
Speaker 1: she was. I was listening to you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's definitely getting real into sad boy faul. I've been
Speaker 1: listening to My Drake and Weekend on repeat, and she
Speaker 1: had her fingers in her ear and I was like,
Speaker 1: what's up, baby? Do you do you want to listen
Speaker 1: to something? And she's like yeah, p j MASK. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you want to listen to p JMS? You want to
Speaker 1: listen to the theme song? And she's like yeah, put on.
Speaker 1: Of course Spotify had the day. She was happy and
Speaker 1: then like I was like, oh, they have a whole
Speaker 1: album where people they're just nonsense songs based off of
Speaker 1: each of the characters, and she was jamming and I
Speaker 1: had to put my foot down. Was like, I can't
Speaker 1: listen to this bag. This is a rap. We're going
Speaker 1: back to Drake. We're going back to Drake. How dare you? UM?
Speaker 1: The thing that I'm geeking out about, I guess we're
Speaker 1: all doing personal things is a personal thing that I
Speaker 1: started to do was TMS, which is transcranial um stimulation.
Speaker 1: People do it for depression and PTSD. I've known about
Speaker 1: it for years, um and actually Neil Brennan talks I
Speaker 1: think he talks about it in his special we He
Speaker 1: and I both uh did a different treatment before that
Speaker 1: that we both hated UM at the same doctor. And
Speaker 1: then I've been wanting to do TMS, which they essentially
Speaker 1: stimulates like electrodes. They stimulate your head um if you
Speaker 1: suffer from depression. They also do it for anxiety as well.
Speaker 1: And UM, yeah, it used to be really expensive. Now
Speaker 1: it's covered by insurance or there's places that will work
Speaker 1: with you, so it's like not as expensive. UM. But anyways,
Speaker 1: just really cool. I've had to go in every single day,
Speaker 1: every Monday through Friday. I go in like every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday for six weeks and I'm hitting my
Speaker 1: six week. So to me, that's really dope that we
Speaker 1: live in a time that you can what's the feeling
Speaker 1: like from from then to now? For you, it just
Speaker 1: feels like I spiral less, Like you know, we live
Speaker 1: in a really tough the world is tough in general,
Speaker 1: and everything on the news is just so devastating. So me,
Speaker 1: I'm very empathetic, Like I'm an EmPATH, Like I just
Speaker 1: feel that entirely, and I've been super open even on
Speaker 1: this podcast about depression and but the own that we're in,
Speaker 1: you're at the mercy, Like you can have a perfect audition.
Speaker 1: I know, because I had a friend of mine who
Speaker 1: literally had like they called him and we're like, you
Speaker 1: were perfect, Like that was the best audition that we've seen,
Speaker 1: and they still went with someone else, because that happens
Speaker 1: sometimes they want someone else or they just and that
Speaker 1: can that can be soul crushing, That can be so
Speaker 1: soul crushing that it was like there's nothing else I
Speaker 1: could have done more, And so you just have to
Speaker 1: kind of be resilient, be resilient. And so for me, Um,
Speaker 1: I have found that it helps me spiral less. It
Speaker 1: feels like I was actually telling an open mic eagle
Speaker 1: this because if you and I were talking about him
Speaker 1: before this, it feels like um. At first, it feels
Speaker 1: like taps on your head and just like someone taking
Speaker 1: their nail, kind of like just tapping one spot in
Speaker 1: your head. But as they increase the intensity, which me
Speaker 1: I have a high pain threshold so I can handle it,
Speaker 1: it kind of feels a little bit like someone tattooing
Speaker 1: in your head. Not in a bad way though, just
Speaker 1: like an electric h That's what it feels like. Do
Speaker 1: you remember those games they used to have in your
Speaker 1: okay where you had to hold the handrails and it's
Speaker 1: vibrated super hard. Yeah, kind of like that. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like that. And you want to know something really
Speaker 1: funny if he is that they'll play something for you
Speaker 1: while it's only like a couple of minutes really, but
Speaker 1: they'll play something on Netflix or whatever for you if
Speaker 1: you want to watch it. And I always say no
Speaker 1: because I just want to meditate during that time. But
Speaker 1: some when my first day I came in, was watching
Speaker 1: Ricky Gervases stand up and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: feel like this is gonna undo my t I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. They're like, do you want to
Speaker 1: finish watching this? I was like no, And then the
Speaker 1: person like that. I came in the next day, They're
Speaker 1: watching Queer. I'm like, this is much better. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I do not want to watch
Speaker 1: trick or device what I'm trying to undo. Somebody watching
Speaker 1: the Quentin Tarantino watching Django, you like, I just I
Speaker 1: don't want somebody to just constantly are you triggered? Are
Speaker 1: you triggered the whole time of it? Anyway? So I
Speaker 1: thought that was cool. Um, kind of guinea pigging myself.
Speaker 1: But you can research it if it's something that you
Speaker 1: think that you might benefit from. So um, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: well let's jump right into it. We're gonna jump right
Speaker 1: down and do the Nitt degree we normally do. Lead
Speaker 1: let off to a little public publication history and that
Speaker 1: early stuff. Then we'll probably kick to a break before
Speaker 1: we really jump into it. But first off and foremost,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Eternals. And the Eternals are a
Speaker 1: fictional rates of humanoids appearing in the American comic books
Speaker 1: published by Marvel Comics. They're described as an offshoot of
Speaker 1: the evolutionary process that created sentient life on Earth. Original
Speaker 1: instigators of this process, the alien Celestials, intended the Eternals
Speaker 1: to be defenders of Earth, which leads to the inevitability
Speaker 1: of war against their destructive counterparts, the Deviants. The Eternals
Speaker 1: were created by Jack Kirby and made their first appearance
Speaker 1: and the Eternals number one in July of nineteen seventy six. So, ja,
Speaker 1: can you talk us through the So they're humanoid appearing,
Speaker 1: but they're not humans. All right, here's the best analogy
Speaker 1: for you. You remember that movie Prometheus. Yeah, remember how
Speaker 1: it was where the giants basically took humans and all
Speaker 1: that stuff to make the Xenomorphs. They were basically trying
Speaker 1: to make better humans. They wanted to make humans that
Speaker 1: were better to be able to protect humans on Earth.
Speaker 1: So they did these experiments, used these cosmic radiations and
Speaker 1: gave them all. They all of them have the same abilities,
Speaker 1: but it's just varied as to which can do so.
Speaker 1: To an extent, they are immortal, but some aren't. You know.
Speaker 1: They all have super strength, They can flies, shoot cosmic
Speaker 1: beams out, things like that. So they basically enhanced all
Speaker 1: these different individuals, but depending on what their proximity is
Speaker 1: to certain things, it varies. They can teleport, they can transmutate,
Speaker 1: they can do all these different things. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about the race that ended up spawning in humans, mutants
Speaker 1: and going on forward. So that's what they are, and
Speaker 1: it's just it also ties a lot into various mythologies,
Speaker 1: Greek and Romans. Yeah, so actually Jack Kirby was working
Speaker 1: on New Gods at d C. He had left Marvel
Speaker 1: Comics and he went to work at uh d C
Speaker 1: and made New Gods, but then it got canceled until
Speaker 1: he returned to the Eternal So wonder if that would
Speaker 1: have influenced well that you can see, Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can see the influence in a lot of different crossover
Speaker 1: type things from the artists and the creators. Again, you'll
Speaker 1: go to the New Gods and the Eternals, You'll go
Speaker 1: to Apocalypse and I mean you know dark Side and Thanos,
Speaker 1: You'll go to even Deadpool and you know death Stroke.
Speaker 1: So you'll always see those when the creators go because
Speaker 1: those different influences different places. But yeah, also the fact
Speaker 1: that you use this lore in this mythology again, Thor's
Speaker 1: mythology is based off Norse mythology. When you go to
Speaker 1: Moon Night is based off of Egyptian mythology, So you
Speaker 1: just utilize that and just change it over a little
Speaker 1: bit to add the superpowered elements behind it. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: it says when the Celestials visited Earth five million years
Speaker 1: ago and performed genetic experiments on early proto humanity, they
Speaker 1: created two divergent races, the long lived Eternals and the
Speaker 1: genetically unstable and monstrously grotesque deviance. I just love that.
Speaker 1: That's like yeaheah, the way they broke it down, but
Speaker 1: also like just hopes that we see is like you
Speaker 1: create this like perfect beat and then this like yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish it's bad that we both did something nobody could.
Speaker 1: What is the igor whatever? Yeah. Yeah, So these experience
Speaker 1: also led to the capacity for superpowered mutations in humans.
Speaker 1: I guess what I didn't know is you're saying that
Speaker 1: the Eternals led to X men. They primarily led to
Speaker 1: the inhumans, but said as mutants if you go further
Speaker 1: down mutations and whatnot, and that's what they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: do in the movie. You think that introduce they're going
Speaker 1: to utilize this because this way you can say, how
Speaker 1: was the mutations? They lie dormant and a lot of
Speaker 1: people because even the story with the Eternals, they end
Speaker 1: up losing their memories. Spright ends up doing this thing
Speaker 1: that makes them lose their memory. They forget who they are,
Speaker 1: so they live regular lives, with the exception of Icarus,
Speaker 1: who kind of remembers. He's like, I think I was
Speaker 1: something else. And then eventually something happens when they all
Speaker 1: remember and it it unlocks that latent dormant Jean with
Speaker 1: the X Men. And this way you can do it
Speaker 1: is everyone's had it and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the snap opened it up right right, So I didn't
Speaker 1: know that they also so they also performed this experiment
Speaker 1: on other planets such as the Cree and Scroll that
Speaker 1: we saw from Captain Marvel as well as Spider Man
Speaker 1: Far from Home. Remember Ben Mendelsohner process with them. He
Speaker 1: was curate, WI, yes, you're so right, which that is
Speaker 1: now a mess? Uh. Look. According to Sony, the post
Speaker 1: credit scenes never happened. That's pretty much how you're going
Speaker 1: to do that movie. The post credit scenes never happened.
Speaker 1: Everything else was cool. Okay, okay, we have to take
Speaker 1: a really quick break. We're going to hop into more
Speaker 1: of the history of the Eternals right after this. And
Speaker 1: we are back still here with Jay Washington. So I
Speaker 1: know that there are a lot of maternals. Like what
Speaker 1: number are we thinking? Uh? A lot? But the movie
Speaker 1: will have how many main seven? About eight or nine?
Speaker 1: Eight or nine? So can you walk us through? So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Athena, who's the daughter of Zuras. She's
Speaker 1: also she was also known as a Zura. So that's
Speaker 1: being played by Angelo and Jolie. She had to change
Speaker 1: her name because of Athena. Oh yeah, because of the God. Wait, so,
Speaker 1: so can you talk us through her? Like? What is she?
Speaker 1: She's a She's a warrior. She's a warrior. She battled.
Speaker 1: She was one of the ones me pull that right back.
Speaker 1: I had I remembered with her. She's very much a
Speaker 1: powerful one. She she fights alongside and she definitely tries
Speaker 1: to help stop a lot of the wars and everything
Speaker 1: that goes on throughout the interns with the different battles.
Speaker 1: They have battles amongst themselves before they even have the
Speaker 1: battles with the Devians because there is a civil war
Speaker 1: that happens that it causes them to split off because
Speaker 1: when there are the offshoots, when you have let's go
Speaker 1: back to be it, when you have the Eternals, they
Speaker 1: go to Earth. They make the Eternals on Earth. They
Speaker 1: want to make the protectors. Some don't want to stay there,
Speaker 1: some leave. Do you blame them? No? Did they know
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen? You know? This is the funniest
Speaker 1: thing of all time is that every hero, every superhero
Speaker 1: that comes here wants to save Earth or like stay
Speaker 1: at Earth. And I'm like, I feel like in the
Speaker 1: real world this would not They'd be like, no, we're good.
Speaker 1: That's the planet. This is what There's two planets over there,
Speaker 1: there's there's other planets. Um, okay. So so she is
Speaker 1: a warrior. She is a definite war She's like, she's
Speaker 1: the daughter of one of the head. Do they age,
Speaker 1: They age, but not like us. So they age supper slow.
Speaker 1: So that's what gives them the immortality look like for instance,
Speaker 1: uh Macars who basically becomes Max Curry. She's gonna be
Speaker 1: played by Laura Radolf red Law excuse me because of
Speaker 1: her abilities and moving so fast and constantly running and
Speaker 1: she exudes her abilities, it makes her vulnerable. Okay, so
Speaker 1: like using up your ability can be like, oh now
Speaker 1: you can be killed. So but they still age slow.
Speaker 1: That's how they they're going to be able to be
Speaker 1: around this entire time. They're not directly immortal, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. They are, they're considered it more like the gods.
Speaker 1: They're not even consider them immortal. But they're just old.
Speaker 1: They're they're more immortal than humans. Yes, yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: and you know, so they age really slow. Are we
Speaker 1: talking like she might be ten for like a thousand
Speaker 1: years or something? Is that? But they but they're but
Speaker 1: they start out as babies, right, I'm sorry that you
Speaker 1: have to walk me through their history. If someone's pregnant,
Speaker 1: that does happen. So she does have she does have
Speaker 1: a son with a human who does end up adapting. All. Normally,
Speaker 1: when they have the eternals have sons with humans, you
Speaker 1: have children humans, not just sons. The child normally is human.
Speaker 1: In the case of penas son, her son had abilities
Speaker 1: and as a regular eternal. So it's a rarity. So
Speaker 1: they are, you know, some are born, some are just created.
Speaker 1: So you have that long line goes down because technically
Speaker 1: Thanos is an eternal Wow, you're blowing my mind here,
Speaker 1: And did know that that Dannis is an eternal Danis
Speaker 1: his dad is in the Turn, his mom is from Titan.
Speaker 1: So that's why he's the mad tight wow, because because
Speaker 1: he was, and because he was, so even when it
Speaker 1: goes that's one of the things about the film, will
Speaker 1: probably see him be born, will more than likely see
Speaker 1: him be born. The gosh a little baby Thanos. Someone
Speaker 1: used to go in time and kill him. It's like
Speaker 1: the baby Hitler. That was the that's actually the concept
Speaker 1: of cosmic ghostwriter. Yeah, where he tries to go back
Speaker 1: in time and so he actually because even when you
Speaker 1: go to him, he kills his mother and dissects her
Speaker 1: because he looks different. He wants to know, why is
Speaker 1: it he looks different? Why does he have this rigid chin?
Speaker 1: Why does he have this purple skin? This man has
Speaker 1: always been Oh yeah, he's always been. It's just him.
Speaker 1: It was just him and his brother, and then he
Speaker 1: always looked different and he was picked on. So he
Speaker 1: was basically an incident so quickly facing So yeah, so
Speaker 1: you have all these different things. You know, he is
Speaker 1: one of those. He's an offshoot as a product, but
Speaker 1: he became the dev and almost type. But he wasn't
Speaker 1: super Girl. Testing just was different. He just was different.
Speaker 1: So you have these offshoots that are born. There are
Speaker 1: different generations, like five generations of Eternals that have happened,
Speaker 1: but there's a the movie is going to focus on
Speaker 1: one particular batch because that way you can go and
Speaker 1: spawn for a n E. MCU with the Costan version. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we heard about Angelina Julie's character, what about Kamel's.
Speaker 1: So Kamale is gonna play Kingo. He's a master swordsman.
Speaker 1: He really is just like a real chill dude. He
Speaker 1: likes making weapons. He's the things that he's gonna do
Speaker 1: when he becomes a human in a sense in mental state,
Speaker 1: because it's not like he's actually a human. He forgets
Speaker 1: that he is eternal. So he's a master sworceman. So
Speaker 1: when you have somebody like this who is weapons advanced
Speaker 1: and everything. He has the abilities, but you're using Kamale
Speaker 1: and Agiani, you're like, this is gonna work, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be funny. It's gonna be funny with with what
Speaker 1: he does because there are other warriors. You have donal Lee,
Speaker 1: who was playing Gilgamesh was also a warrior who has
Speaker 1: been confused to people like Hercules down the line again
Speaker 1: Greek and Roman mythology. You have him probably will figure
Speaker 1: out how the iteration, well, the interaction excuse me with
Speaker 1: him and Kid Harrington, who's basically the Black Knight, because
Speaker 1: the Black Knight ends up having this relationship with Cercy,
Speaker 1: who was played by Jim and Chan. So it's just
Speaker 1: so many things. Like you have that character when you
Speaker 1: go to a Kinggo who was just like, I live
Speaker 1: by myself. I pretty much chilled by myself. I make weapons,
Speaker 1: but I know how to use them. I still have
Speaker 1: these abilities. I like to be reserved. You have Gilgamesh
Speaker 1: who was more just like I really want to be
Speaker 1: by myself. I really want to be alone. Chorus is cocky.
Speaker 1: That's where we get the legend from Chorus copy, and
Speaker 1: that's Richard. Richard Madden's character. Sprite is like a little
Speaker 1: trickster that always likes to manipulate things like a very
Speaker 1: tiny Loki with the with the long lasting Benjamin button disease.
Speaker 1: So you have these different because Sprite is like ten
Speaker 1: tho years old but it looks like a twelve year
Speaker 1: old and Leah MQ who's play Anger, is as cute
Speaker 1: as a button. Yeah, just as cute as a button.
Speaker 1: So you have it's gonna be confusing for a lot
Speaker 1: of people because everybody like, wait, what is all this for?
Speaker 1: This is the biggest exposition plot device film the n
Speaker 1: m c U has ever done. The word to lay
Speaker 1: the groundwork going forward completely is there? Do they consider
Speaker 1: Earth home or so you have the so the Celestials
Speaker 1: made the Eternals that stay on Home, that's home. They
Speaker 1: live on Olympia. They have their own spot called Olympia.
Speaker 1: They have their home. But then you have the other
Speaker 1: ones who lived on Titan Saturn's moon i Ethanos. So
Speaker 1: they do call Earth home. So it's it's going to
Speaker 1: be very There's a battle that had. They fight New York,
Speaker 1: they fight in London, they fight all over. After they
Speaker 1: realize who they are, they end up working for the
Speaker 1: They end up working with the Avengers. The Black Knight
Speaker 1: goes joins the heroes for Higher at one point in
Speaker 1: a comic degoration. So you have all these different things
Speaker 1: that can happen. Again, you're laying the groundwork for a
Speaker 1: very long streight to your next two phases. It really
Speaker 1: because I think I think if you go back and
Speaker 1: listen to some nertives, and that was my guess, was
Speaker 1: that we're going cosmic. They said it. Yeah, they said
Speaker 1: it for a while, and you have to you know,
Speaker 1: you think I'm sorry to cut you off. You think
Speaker 1: it's simple with just saying, oh, but we just did
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy too, and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and now we're instantly cosmic, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: there's a whole bigger level of this that people don't
Speaker 1: even get yet. So I wonder if like this is
Speaker 1: all gonna lead to annihilation. I think everybody's more focused
Speaker 1: on secret Wars because annihilation was easy. Everybody thought that's
Speaker 1: what end game was. Would have been annihilation, everybody thought
Speaker 1: that's what endgame was. And now that that whole thing
Speaker 1: is through, it's now building up to this real big
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna happen again, and it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: just a regular at the end of phase four. This
Speaker 1: is what's happening. This is gonna be like another two
Speaker 1: three phases, everything comes together. So again it may be Annihilation,
Speaker 1: but more than likely Secret Wars because of what we're
Speaker 1: building in now, especially with the Marvel Studios Disney Plus shows.
Speaker 1: My secret words are we talking about the scrolls and
Speaker 1: super scroll Invasion Superscroll invasion. But again you have how
Speaker 1: did the super Scrolls come? You can use this whole
Speaker 1: thing from the Eternals with them making the deviance, with
Speaker 1: the Deviance experiment on Kral Worlds, the croll the screen
Speaker 1: of Kral Worlds to do those things. You can have
Speaker 1: those things open that door, you lay the groundwork in
Speaker 1: the foundation, which is interesting because they've kind of painted
Speaker 1: scrolls in this like nice light so that you know
Speaker 1: or they did. And I thought about that until I
Speaker 1: watched Captain Marvel one more time. When you see technically
Speaker 1: Ben Mendelson's character gets shot and you think he's killed,
Speaker 1: watch his kid's face. His kid has a face like
Speaker 1: the daughter and kill Bill like I will come back
Speaker 1: and kill everybody. And that's how you turn somebody evil,
Speaker 1: find the ways to defeat who you thought were the
Speaker 1: good guys. You have those things happen. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: So can you tell me some of your favorite moments
Speaker 1: of The Eternals in the comics, there moments that stand
Speaker 1: out that we're like, oh, this is dope, this is brutal.
Speaker 1: They have they had this movement where they fought, they
Speaker 1: were fighting, and they thought they were fighting Kane the Conqueror,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It was one of the eternals actually
Speaker 1: making them think it was Wow. I love that. There's
Speaker 1: like when you said before they even before they even left,
Speaker 1: like they got in a fight with each other. That's
Speaker 1: Kane enabled stuff right there. Technically, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's always it's always a Cane enable a civil war
Speaker 1: type thing before lack of better words, it's always a
Speaker 1: battle within, and that battle within always has the casualties
Speaker 1: being humans because we're caught in the middle of it. No,
Speaker 1: I mean when you were like and they fought in
Speaker 1: New York and like, how terrifying of a world to
Speaker 1: live in, Like this is just so hilarious to me.
Speaker 1: If like, if you actually considered living in the Marvel
Speaker 1: world and it's like you just have people constantly like
Speaker 1: tearing down bridges and I wouldn't live in New York
Speaker 1: from home New York, I would never live in New York. Again, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't live in any city, but definitely not New
Speaker 1: York because that's where everything takes place, everything is happening. Know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the news. People still live there, and
Speaker 1: how is their insurance? Not like, how are two thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for a studio? It was just an alien evasion
Speaker 1: round the corner. But paying attention to that. But you
Speaker 1: had had you have had them fight with against Kang,
Speaker 1: You've had them fight against each other, You've had them
Speaker 1: fight against Apocalypse. You've had them do so many different
Speaker 1: battles that again, they did get recognition because of who
Speaker 1: the characters are. They're just it's like, all right, this
Speaker 1: is the eternals, this is Is there one or two
Speaker 1: that you feel people really gravitate towards that stand out
Speaker 1: from the others. A lot of people don't know the comics.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people will go towards Chorus
Speaker 1: because of his cocky attitude. A lot of people will
Speaker 1: go towards they make, or towards giggl Mass because of
Speaker 1: who he was, you know, compared to throughout history, all
Speaker 1: the different ones, Samson, Beowulf, Hercules, things like that, um
Speaker 1: a Jack. A lot of people don't know Cercy is
Speaker 1: one as well, Um, the Black Knight. The only reason
Speaker 1: I bring him up is because he's not an internal directly.
Speaker 1: But his sword was actually in Doctor Strange. Uh, people
Speaker 1: don't know that it was in the House of Relics
Speaker 1: with Oh yeah didn't um. Scott Derrekson tweeted and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm surprised it took people that long
Speaker 1: to see it, well because nobody paid attention to like
Speaker 1: it takes those people who stopped, you know, stop the movie.
Speaker 1: And he just pausitive and Hector Navarro man like every
Speaker 1: time he want, what do you see here? What do
Speaker 1: you see here? What do you see here? There's nothing
Speaker 1: Hector Navarro doesn't know that he already knows, like probably
Speaker 1: what phase? What or phase are we in? I think
Speaker 1: he already he knows every inch of every comic ever written.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't remember. I went to Hector's all apartment. He
Speaker 1: has a comic books on comic books, on comic books,
Speaker 1: just sitting all over the place. But you have these
Speaker 1: characters who again they're not popular characters, right, but that's
Speaker 1: Marvel's um success a galaxy. Yeah, well, I mean iron
Speaker 1: Man to be honest, Like who cared about iron character?
Speaker 1: Captain America just to a certain extent. Even Yeah, Captain
Speaker 1: America was not a very prominent he was just Captain America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a super like you got to have a
Speaker 1: Captain America comic book. I almost feel like maybe they
Speaker 1: had to do that with what they were going up against.
Speaker 1: When you have someone that's Batman and Superman, which were
Speaker 1: the most known, most distributed, most product place, like you know,
Speaker 1: you just they were the icon. They were the superheroes
Speaker 1: from the beginning, that you have to almost do something
Speaker 1: a real little risky to take away from Yeah, casting
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Is iron Man is the most risky
Speaker 1: thing you can do, Absolutely very risky, and I think
Speaker 1: he related to the character the most out of anyone.
Speaker 1: I think if he was going to bring something as
Speaker 1: a struggling alcoholic that needed a second chance, and he
Speaker 1: found that in Tony Stark. What better person that can
Speaker 1: play that than someone that's lived that life. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that, which was so interesting because that was like
Speaker 1: such a big part of Tony Stark's character is how
Speaker 1: much of an alcoholic he was and recovering. And they
Speaker 1: never really touched on that in the They teased the
Speaker 1: demon in a bottle, not Iran too when he was
Speaker 1: getting drunk because he was dealing with the poison and
Speaker 1: from a palladium. They tease it, but they never because
Speaker 1: it's again, it's Marvel, it's Disney. They're not going to
Speaker 1: go deep into Tony Starks and alcoholic. Yeah, although now
Speaker 1: they're definitely creeping into I mean they're they're definitely bringing
Speaker 1: in stuff, and I think these Disney Plus series are too,
Speaker 1: are going to I just wonder how far they'll go. Well,
Speaker 1: I will say, I mean I think they might have
Speaker 1: announced this, uh, I mean they they touched on it.
Speaker 1: But the way that was that it was told to
Speaker 1: me by someone who was able to be lucky enough
Speaker 1: to go into the hive mind of Disney and get
Speaker 1: like the phases laid out, um, is that you know,
Speaker 1: they're really touching. Just like in the comic when Sam
Speaker 1: Wilson became uh Captain America, there was the whole plot
Speaker 1: about you know America not one Yeah, and they and
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna approach in the TV series. You know,
Speaker 1: they're actually gonna go into that, which is interesting because
Speaker 1: I thought they might have shied away from that. But
Speaker 1: that that opens and forces a very important discussion, uh
Speaker 1: that you know, MCU fans are now going to have
Speaker 1: to look stare it in the face. Well, they did
Speaker 1: let I felt like with Black Panther, they really let
Speaker 1: them make jokes that I don't think they would have
Speaker 1: been able to five years ago. You can do it.
Speaker 1: It's open. It's they're like, hey, you can make it here.
Speaker 1: If anything else. I think also Ryan probably had it.
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler had a big part in that. I think
Speaker 1: that he was like, no, we're going to do this.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things too that I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I've said it before. Whereas like, as much
Speaker 1: as I hated how long it took, that's the only
Speaker 1: way we could have gotten the version that we've gotten.
Speaker 1: Because by the time Black Panther was out, Marvel was
Speaker 1: in their bag a bit. They're like, we can take risks.
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of mastered this kind of space, so
Speaker 1: we'll let you know, Googler have the freedom to push it.
Speaker 1: I feel like if it would have came out any earlier,
Speaker 1: they would have there would have been a lot of pushback,
Speaker 1: a lot of worries, a lot of this, a lot
Speaker 1: of that but just I think as a as a society,
Speaker 1: the zeitguys and as a company, they were just willing
Speaker 1: to just give a little more freedom and it paid off.
Speaker 1: And now it's because I mean, I'm sure we still
Speaker 1: got a version that was noted down a bit, you know,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't like fully you know, they they gave
Speaker 1: him some wins. So too, I think it's gonna while
Speaker 1: out because now with the chip on that, Now that
Speaker 1: they got the chip, you know, they can't tell him nothing.
Speaker 1: You thought they were calling people colonnazes before in the
Speaker 1: first Just wait to what you see in this second. Oh, man, Ja,
Speaker 1: can you tell everyone about a Jack because we did
Speaker 1: kind of skip over her. Oh yeah, that's selling Hyak's character.
Speaker 1: She is the leader of everybody. She is one of
Speaker 1: those one again. She was just she's a man in
Speaker 1: the comics, a strong warrior, dominant, powerful, has been able
Speaker 1: to battle up against uh Urinos, who was one of
Speaker 1: the other has who split off and has never backed down.
Speaker 1: And so to have somebody like selling play play that character,
Speaker 1: it's going to I cannot wait. Did you see the
Speaker 1: saw the concept art of the costume, right, So it's like,
Speaker 1: let's see what the cos players are gonna look like. Well,
Speaker 1: just keep following her Instagram people, Okay, you're stalking of
Speaker 1: her Instagram. But yeah, she's gonna be the one that
Speaker 1: makes sure she lays everything down. We'll start figuring things
Speaker 1: out as well. Again figure it out like again, her
Speaker 1: identity will be taken away from her. She won't remember
Speaker 1: who She'll be in somewhere like in Russia and won't
Speaker 1: remember who she is until something happens. So that it
Speaker 1: depends on also if they decide to go the route
Speaker 1: of is the snap gonna do it? It's something else
Speaker 1: gonna do it? You know, is the waking of the
Speaker 1: dream and Celesti you're gonna do it. All these different
Speaker 1: elements have to be put in a place to figure
Speaker 1: out how do you make them remember who they are?
Speaker 1: Because we're gonna see the beginning. We know it's a
Speaker 1: Marvel movie, so it's probably two and a half hours.
Speaker 1: The first half hour shows you the thirty five years ago,
Speaker 1: the time back when everything started, gives you all that
Speaker 1: shows you to split off potentially, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: the Thano's birth. Then we go to the present day.
Speaker 1: However we go that way, then we see what happens
Speaker 1: with the Devons how they come back, because they're still
Speaker 1: on Earth and they come back, they still on Earth
Speaker 1: anyar en dormant. They're like basically the Decepticons were in
Speaker 1: the Transformer series, how they were there, but nobody ever
Speaker 1: knew the Devons will be there. Then we figure out
Speaker 1: how they come into it. Wake up the eternals, wake
Speaker 1: up their inside personalities. Boom, we go into this battle.
Speaker 1: We get Brian Tyree Henry who's potentially working, like I said,
Speaker 1: as an engineer or somebody with a big gass hammer
Speaker 1: alive thor here's his own hammer fast with a hammer
Speaker 1: that is shoots out lightning, well, shoots out energy bolts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you talked a little bit about their powers. Um,
Speaker 1: I know they obviously have superhuman strength, superspeed flight, energy blast,
Speaker 1: molecular manipulation, telekinesis, teleportation, I get it all control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things. And they have a
Speaker 1: thing where they come to collect collective as a unimone.
Speaker 1: It's a one giant celestial they I mean not celestial,
Speaker 1: excuse me, internal they make which is like okay, so
Speaker 1: they form up like Voltron, got it, let's make this happen.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes again. More than likely
Speaker 1: that will happen if you end up bringing up the
Speaker 1: dream of celestial because you need somebody just as powerful
Speaker 1: as a celestial who created the eternals to battle the eternals.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that people, I mean the people
Speaker 1: that did read the comics, what do you think made
Speaker 1: them gravitate towards the eternals? Somebody different, something different, something different.
Speaker 1: And also those people who were interested in mythology. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're a history buff, if you love mythology,
Speaker 1: that's why you go in the thor that's why you
Speaker 1: love everything about Asgar. You want to find all these
Speaker 1: things out. So when you hear oh man, so they
Speaker 1: were at Olympia, which is like Greece to them, and
Speaker 1: they have all these things. Oh wow, all these things connect.
Speaker 1: So this is Mercury, you know, saying this is the
Speaker 1: god of the sun and who runs fast, and I'll
Speaker 1: let You're like, okay, so I want to learn more
Speaker 1: about it. But then you get that superhero element on
Speaker 1: top of it, and so now you're like, okay, how
Speaker 1: does this keep going? And at the point they kind
Speaker 1: of slow it down it's like, all right, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go gravitate over to the different iterations of the Avengers,
Speaker 1: or maybe the Defenders, or even the West Coast Avengers
Speaker 1: or whatever else they may bring. The X Men, for instance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you up top, But what was your
Speaker 1: first introduction to them? Me being at home at uh
Speaker 1: me be at home, and after going to Walgreens and
Speaker 1: buying comics on the racks, because I'd already read X Man,
Speaker 1: I read Spider Man. I read all of them, and
Speaker 1: I just happen to see in the turn. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, my grandmother bought it from me. Three
Speaker 1: all of let's go and so, because I always so
Speaker 1: I would never be able to just go out. I
Speaker 1: always told everybody I never went outside, just normally in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood because I grew ucausey were always shooting. So
Speaker 1: I buy comic books, and so I'd already read, like
Speaker 1: I said, X Man, Spider Man, fantastic for all this,
Speaker 1: got introduced to Black Panther, and then I saw this
Speaker 1: when I was like, all right, I haven't read this one,
Speaker 1: so cool, this is nice. Let me find out about
Speaker 1: another one and another one. Let me go to the
Speaker 1: comic book shop and so you read those. I didn't
Speaker 1: stay fully into it. I read enough to like, yo,
Speaker 1: I know about these, And then when I got this
Speaker 1: Marvel Cosmic book and made me go right back and
Speaker 1: research more again because I'm like, oh, yeah, we are
Speaker 1: going to comic cosmic phase for the Marvel, for the
Speaker 1: m c U and stuff like that. Can you talk
Speaker 1: about some of their relationships with each other? Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, Uh, the Black Night and Certacy, they do
Speaker 1: this thing called the Joe she Gat. It's like they
Speaker 1: have a bond together. Uh. Icarus is Druid's cousin. Drewid
Speaker 1: is played by Barry Kagan. I think that's his name.
Speaker 1: I can't know if I'm pronouncing it right. But they
Speaker 1: have relations a lot of my family, father and son, daughters, cousins. Again,
Speaker 1: you have people like Yogamesh who just wanders. You have kings.
Speaker 1: Some of them hate each other, they don't like each other.
Speaker 1: Some I mean they they're meant to be protected, They're
Speaker 1: meant to be this global force of heroes together for Earth.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, if we're all
Speaker 1: together all the time, I don't like you. Maybe they
Speaker 1: shouldn't have made them so human. You know, what can
Speaker 1: we turn? Did you notice her face? She was like,
Speaker 1: I got this moment. I'm gonna drop it drop. That's
Speaker 1: That's the one thing. There are two moments that no
Speaker 1: one at home will get to see. One is that
Speaker 1: moment where she had this face like I'm about to
Speaker 1: hit your meat. In second, well, you were mentioning how
Speaker 1: powerful some my Hikes character was. Danny was leaning back,
Speaker 1: she was letting it wash over her, like, yes, just
Speaker 1: give me all. You know, it's really weird. We have
Speaker 1: to take a really quick break right out, just randomly,
Speaker 1: and we will be right back after this. And we're
Speaker 1: back still here, joined by Jay Washington. Did anybody ever
Speaker 1: tell you have that quiet storm drive home night off
Speaker 1: work at midnight voice? People will get that she's um
Speaker 1: syndicated everywhere. Um, But Jay, what are some things about
Speaker 1: the Eternals that people should know going into if they
Speaker 1: don't know, or just in general that we might have
Speaker 1: glossed over. I didn't bring up the fact that also
Speaker 1: in the process of the mutations with the devins, you
Speaker 1: did get the inhumans. So this movie actually is the
Speaker 1: replacement for the inhuman Wait what happened with it's not
Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, you didn't see the clips from the
Speaker 1: there's just one clip him remembering that was The New Mutants,
Speaker 1: which is never coming out either. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: cut scene where black Bolt has a flashback that just
Speaker 1: looks so you know, the one where his parents are
Speaker 1: yelling and he's like no, yes. Basically, so Asimo played
Speaker 1: black Boat and his ability was he can't talk because
Speaker 1: if he talks, his voice will just it's like the
Speaker 1: voice that God, it'll just explode. So his parents with
Speaker 1: chastise me about something against his brother and then do something.
Speaker 1: He was like no and then just exploded against the wall.
Speaker 1: But that sounds awesome, But the show was terrible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so this was like Grantedy and Humans were supposed to
Speaker 1: come earlier. Was it ever released. Yeah, the whole eight
Speaker 1: episodes went on ABC, and the first two episodes appeared
Speaker 1: in Imax theaters and people paid like dollars to see that. Nonsense.
Speaker 1: This was in Humans and the New Mutants also got
Speaker 1: that never came out, that will never come up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be on the side they sent
Speaker 1: me um. I appreciate it very much. They sent me
Speaker 1: a DNA kit, which now I kind of regret because
Speaker 1: it's like for the gifted. They do it for the gifted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Gifted that was there's so many that was for
Speaker 1: the Gift a lot, and the ext world was really
Speaker 1: blown out. And it's funny because they had a hit
Speaker 1: with Legion and seeming like people were digging the Gifted,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't as like because it was it was
Speaker 1: too much. We referenced the X Men, but we never
Speaker 1: will see the x and like everyone, that's the thing
Speaker 1: is like you can only visit the well so many
Speaker 1: times before people really gonna want to taste of that
Speaker 1: good stuff. That's how we Gotham was rough because it
Speaker 1: was so anachronous, like like just so much stuff was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this can't possibly make sense, Like how are you already
Speaker 1: seeing poison ivy? Why is the penguin way older? Skinny?
Speaker 1: If I need to tell you? Because you and I
Speaker 1: are in a bunch of um and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: are to j and a bunch of writing groups on Facebook,
Speaker 1: and there was some dude that was like talking about
Speaker 1: how someone like stole his idea for like a movie,
Speaker 1: but also in there he was like and I had
Speaker 1: this idea about like a show where Bruce Wayne is young.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who wouldn't have that idea? It's literally the
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the wildest thing to you ever think
Speaker 1: that someone stole your idea that you built off an
Speaker 1: I p that you do not own. Like because again
Speaker 1: I also was going to pitch. I'm like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: would literally anyone else. Because there's also Bruce Wayne when
Speaker 1: he's old, an old man, there's Bruce Wayne when he's young. Like,
Speaker 1: there's so many different and we have that Bruce Way
Speaker 1: when he's all we end up getting Batman Beyond, by
Speaker 1: the way, speaking of which the voice of Bruce Wayne
Speaker 1: will be playing old Bruce Way. Crisis. Oh, I know
Speaker 1: so much that's happened about that Crisis crossover. I know
Speaker 1: so many people that are appearing that still have yet
Speaker 1: to be announced. They're doing more than what everybody is
Speaker 1: a expecting. Is it is going to be unique? How
Speaker 1: like people are gonna pop in just for a hot
Speaker 1: second here and there, and you're like, oh, so they
Speaker 1: really decided to say this is every universe. So yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things I said, um, one of the
Speaker 1: things too, like I brought up earlier is the Dreaming Celestial.
Speaker 1: So the Dreaming Celestial is also known as tam Wood,
Speaker 1: and it's to say he's the second host. He's the
Speaker 1: one who made the Deviance themselves, so he created them,
Speaker 1: and so he's buried away. He's hit like he's lying
Speaker 1: just underground somewhere, and they find him. And because they
Speaker 1: find they want him to basically say, hey, help us
Speaker 1: defeat the regular the regular Eternals. The deviants want to
Speaker 1: find it, and then the Eternals cannot. One of their
Speaker 1: weaknesses is that they can't go after their creator. It's
Speaker 1: like a RoboCop prime directive. You cannot go after you.
Speaker 1: I imagine that that something happens there and then that's
Speaker 1: the unimone. The unimony ends up allowing to do it.
Speaker 1: They can't do it individually, so like as can't go
Speaker 1: at the dream of Celestial, but the Deviance they don't
Speaker 1: want to. They could, but they don't want to. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that is one of the big things that is going
Speaker 1: to happen. But again it depends on how they're gonna
Speaker 1: take this. It's hard to say exactly where we don't
Speaker 1: know the plot yet. All this is just assumption, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they can do this and do that, and do this
Speaker 1: and do that because it will give you this, this
Speaker 1: and that. But until you know anything, it's just hard.
Speaker 1: Right now, can you imagine what the posters are gonna
Speaker 1: look like? All types of space and stuff. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying because that would be hilarious and I would
Speaker 1: love that, but um no, I would love it if
Speaker 1: it would literally just space and no, none of the characters.
Speaker 1: But what I meant is, like you know, in the
Speaker 1: Infinity War poster, it was like everyone that's ever existed
Speaker 1: was on there. I think it'd be nice to just
Speaker 1: with those just do like something splitting because you don't
Speaker 1: like for those who don't know, don't don't understand if
Speaker 1: one is the deviance one of these eternals things like
Speaker 1: in space, things like that. So we'll see, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: if they that people listen, people listen to this podcast
Speaker 1: that I had no idea, people will come up and
Speaker 1: be yeah. So anyways, Jay came up with that idea,
Speaker 1: so you have to hit him up. At one time,
Speaker 1: we got a email from Kevin Fagus, like, if you're
Speaker 1: writing about everything everybody needs. We have like writers that
Speaker 1: are at like Marvel comic writers and other people that
Speaker 1: listen that I had no idea, and they'll, um, they
Speaker 1: obviously know more about this, of course. But then but
Speaker 1: then you know, we'll drop some heat on our Halloween
Speaker 1: episode or whatever and stuff that they don't know. The
Speaker 1: other topics they don't know. We cover a wide range,
Speaker 1: not just not just a comic book, I p but yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: so so okay, so we have that. Is there anything
Speaker 1: else that you feel people need to know about the Eternals?
Speaker 1: This is their first obviously I'm gonna say this is
Speaker 1: so they've mainly been in the comics and this is
Speaker 1: their first iteration. Really, this is a first and foremost
Speaker 1: on the in the film. Okay, because just again I
Speaker 1: will always compare it to the way Guardians dropped when
Speaker 1: you heard there was gonna be a talking raccoon and
Speaker 1: a talking tree if you didn't know who the Guardians
Speaker 1: in the galaxy, where you were like, this is not
Speaker 1: gonna work. So the talking tree was Vin Diesel, who
Speaker 1: did it in every Languge who went who went in
Speaker 1: the booth on day one? And stilts now, which is
Speaker 1: a true story. He walked in on stilts, but that
Speaker 1: wasn't every record. No, that was just the first day.
Speaker 1: They were like, you don't. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: going to sound the best, my man, But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really just make sure you understand. You can do some
Speaker 1: research on it, but it's also knowing, hey, this is
Speaker 1: leading up to something bigger, so don't go in like
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't get what all this is for.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean you don't think that maybe the stakes
Speaker 1: will be as high in this because there's everything else.
Speaker 1: So you know, some people like, oh, well, I didn't
Speaker 1: think I was. I thought I was gonna get this
Speaker 1: and I was gonna get that. I didn't get this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get some Max. It's a Marvel movie. But
Speaker 1: you may not get exactly what you're expected got you like,
Speaker 1: you might not get the eternal story that you know
Speaker 1: from the comics. That might not come down for a
Speaker 1: movie or two. Right, you might get something. You'll get
Speaker 1: a bridge version that will go Hey, like I said,
Speaker 1: here's the beginning, here's your little fan, here's stands. There
Speaker 1: you go. You got him. You're good. Now we're moving forward.
Speaker 1: You get baby fans and that's it, and then you
Speaker 1: move forward. You probably get you get the fight you
Speaker 1: get the wakening them up and they're like, oh, so
Speaker 1: this is this bigger thing that's happening. This may be
Speaker 1: your your mutant post credit City movie. I think Thor
Speaker 1: actually said about killing him as a baby and Infinity.
Speaker 1: I haven't rewatched Infinity more lately, but I thought he
Speaker 1: was the one that I think it was an end
Speaker 1: game machine. But yeah, the time machine, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the whole time machine thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. So Cosmic
Speaker 1: ghost Writer is Frank Castle as the ghostwriter. When he
Speaker 1: got killed, he sold his soul to Dormamo, not Dormammu. Um,
Speaker 1: who's the underworld guy? Um? Now mom mels Mephistopol close
Speaker 1: to its Mephisto. Yeah, souldis so old. And Mephisto became
Speaker 1: the new ghostwriter. Then he like became a Galactus's Harold
Speaker 1: and then so he became Cosmic Ghostwriter. Then he killed
Speaker 1: Galactus and then he uh and then he said he
Speaker 1: was going to go back in time to kill to
Speaker 1: kill Fanos, baby Fanos. He couldn't kill baby Thanos. He
Speaker 1: tried to like raise him as a good person because
Speaker 1: of all the bad stuff that turn him into, but
Speaker 1: it invents and he still ends up turning out evil,
Speaker 1: so he tried to go back in time to kill
Speaker 1: It's really it's a fun romp. But the newer version
Speaker 1: is written by Nick Giovannetti and Paul Shear and yeah,
Speaker 1: because he gets trapped back in time after that rum,
Speaker 1: which like, uh, Nick coats, Nick coats, Nikki coats. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'll you know I love you. Uh. The first writer
Speaker 1: hands it off like he ends and he ends up
Speaker 1: being trapped in time. He's like, well, I'm just stay
Speaker 1: in time because he wants to stay in time and
Speaker 1: see if he can prevent his family from being killed. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's like a fun, wholesome romp. And also it
Speaker 1: was real cool because that's when I was in the
Speaker 1: room with Nick and I got to see the uh
Speaker 1: the writing process of a comics. So like getting getting
Speaker 1: to see that, seeing the early pins and learning that
Speaker 1: and trying to, you know, uh, do one other thing
Speaker 1: on the list of the many things that I'm already doing. Uh.
Speaker 1: So thank Nick for that insight and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And check out Cosmic Ghostwriter. You know what's going to
Speaker 1: be wild is I wonder if they all of the
Speaker 1: eternals are going to have different accents because you have
Speaker 1: Harringtons and you have so much. But they're all supposed
Speaker 1: to be from the same like kind of grew up
Speaker 1: in the same you know what I mean, So like
Speaker 1: why does he sound British or what? Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is with them being in these different areas. I guess
Speaker 1: it's that whole you adapt to where you're from. Like
Speaker 1: people who aren't from California Los Angeles now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they've been here for some time, maybe they
Speaker 1: lose their regular accents and whatnot. So I think you
Speaker 1: can play that that level, got it because him and
Speaker 1: Tella Hikes do not sound anything. So yeah, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is like while everyone in Star Wars is like, what
Speaker 1: British or something, isn't that well, yeah, the whole our
Speaker 1: world is. Yeah, the galaxy is British, just like they
Speaker 1: did in Krypton everybody was British. You just have those
Speaker 1: different things that happened with this. It's it's a different one.
Speaker 1: This is a book. This is a book. There is
Speaker 1: the characters in the books who they set up everything,
Speaker 1: they've been around for the longest. Eventually it come back
Speaker 1: to bring me, you know, the Celestials come back. There's
Speaker 1: this big battle with them against the celestials. We're not
Speaker 1: going to get that in the film. We're not because
Speaker 1: that's too much. That's too much, that's an entire that's
Speaker 1: the entire phase by itself. We're not gonna get that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get this movie where it's gonna set up
Speaker 1: these characters. Now, will they all just make them live?
Speaker 1: Because you know, the m c u is has a
Speaker 1: thing for all right, we gotta kill you off. You
Speaker 1: gotta go very down for that because there's so many people.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a gigantic marble poster? Everybody very
Speaker 1: okay with people dying, Like it's just you can't say that,
Speaker 1: what a cute sounding voice. I'm very okay with people dying.
Speaker 1: I like when there's steaks, like when someone actually stays dead, which,
Speaker 1: even though this is Comic Book World, says the dragon
Speaker 1: ball Z fan, it's true, I guess the Jeta die,
Speaker 1: you know, which you know, I forgot to mention that
Speaker 1: in my geeking out about this small sidebar. But I
Speaker 1: think one of the coolest things about the Cacarrot game
Speaker 1: coming out is that they went ahead and put in
Speaker 1: those fatherhood moments that I said existed between Apps and
Speaker 1: y'all gonna have to play. It'll don't have to play.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they think that it doesn't matter anymore. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Goku daddy moment. No, you know the
Speaker 1: best moment is that they added the d m v
Speaker 1: C or you actually have to go to the d
Speaker 1: m V that is that's oh they were they knew
Speaker 1: that's like, um like that is real. Yeah, it's great
Speaker 1: and they so so fans are getting a fan service there.
Speaker 1: We go love it and we accept it and we
Speaker 1: love it. Um. But yeah, I guess we will have
Speaker 1: to check back and we'll have to have you on
Speaker 1: our eternals episode when what is this strapping? Okay, so
Speaker 1: we'll see you in two years. We'll see they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: j was eventually supposed to come back, like we'll see you.
Speaker 1: We'll bring you in for more mutant stuff like doing
Speaker 1: this European comedy tour. So he can't come on the
Speaker 1: European I wish I was doing European to go to
Speaker 1: speak it to existence, buddy, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: do it, not rather do just an Asian one. That's
Speaker 1: why I want to go into Thailand and do a tour.
Speaker 1: No I know comedians that have gone to Japan, Like
Speaker 1: even some of my friends that aren't as well known,
Speaker 1: they'll do a Japanese comedy because they love that. They
Speaker 1: love American comedians and I actually know it. It's like
Speaker 1: you would think, like, isn't there a language barrier? But no,
Speaker 1: they actually know what. They're actually educated on like us,
Speaker 1: they can. They're like bilingual as opposed to most of
Speaker 1: Americans only speak and only think that that's all you
Speaker 1: should speak. Other countries actually do their work to try
Speaker 1: and learn other languages. But Jay, where could everyone catch you?
Speaker 1: You can catch me in the streets now. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram and Mr J Washington
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Speaker 1: Everywhere you get your podcast listening on, I get you
Speaker 1: caught up on everything that's happening in the Marvel n
Speaker 1: d C Live Action cinematic universes. It is barbershop talk
Speaker 1: for nerds. I've been trying to get Danny on ever
Speaker 1: Danny is two. Damn No, you just asked me, Oh
Speaker 1: come on, I just asked me right now, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. That was the easiest. I mean every time
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, should hit up Danny out here
Speaker 1: working and doing like film out eight scripts at a thing,
Speaker 1: seventeen auditions. You have to do that out here and
Speaker 1: then you all will see one of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's there's nothing wrong with it. Trust me. I know
Speaker 1: I'm in like several pitch meetings for different things. So
Speaker 1: I did it. That is one thing I love that
Speaker 1: Lewis Tan, who has been in so many of these
Speaker 1: different superhero things but is also now in Mortal Kombat,
Speaker 1: is the lead in Mortal Kombat, that he was like, um,
Speaker 1: I had so many almost He posted that like nobody
Speaker 1: nobody sees that. Nobody sees all of the almost and
Speaker 1: the near misses and the thing that you got called
Speaker 1: back on but ultimately didn't get and the projects that
Speaker 1: fell through you. They just see the winds. And so
Speaker 1: I love that he posted that because it's such a
Speaker 1: good reminder. Well, you know a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that people only say that when they make some big happen,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really exist to everybody else, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if a star says that, then
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this happens. But if the average person
Speaker 1: says it's like, well that doesn't you know, that's not
Speaker 1: real life. You're just not working hard enough or whatnot.
Speaker 1: I've had people who said, oh, well, you're just not
Speaker 1: doing you're doing stuff, and when you have a know
Speaker 1: what that means. You know that that isn't anything. I'm yes,
Speaker 1: it is, because it's not rent right like I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought I've had a couple of things. I thought
Speaker 1: I had a couple of pilots and I got told
Speaker 1: by my agent it was like, they love you, They're
Speaker 1: bringing you back for the screen tasks. And then I
Speaker 1: get nothing, and I was like, are you serious? So
Speaker 1: I can believe understand that you have to make a
Speaker 1: lot of your own stuff out here. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's why I mean, that's what I
Speaker 1: say about you know, just I know how busy you are.
Speaker 1: I know what if he's out here to do and
Speaker 1: I follow both of you because I just want to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I want to grow up, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just that and the Latina A five for sassy Latina
Speaker 1: who will go with anybody on Twitter real quick, who
Speaker 1: will go at people with a heartbeat. But also yeah,
Speaker 1: next week, this week when coming up, when it comes out,
Speaker 1: I will be in Salt Lake City for fan Ex
Speaker 1: Salt Lake Comic Convention. They're bringing me out again to
Speaker 1: do a couple of panels. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I have Benedict, Juan Magana, Wayne or the
Speaker 1: Power Rangers. Yet they tell me I've got one of
Speaker 1: the three of them, so it's gonna be fun. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm at is Danny Fernandez on all the things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be nice to me when you tweet at me, that's great.
Speaker 1: I we love talking to people. I just uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: But following on this socials for updates on any shows
Speaker 1: and all that, because I never put it in my calendar.
Speaker 1: Al Right, I forgot to say, alb at New York
Speaker 1: Comic Con, I can't announce my panels yet, but I
Speaker 1: will post them soon. So if you're going to be
Speaker 1: a new at Comic Con, I will also be there.
Speaker 1: We'll see if I'll be there. All right, Let's get
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