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Speaker 2: Great radio. Hey greetings and welcome in. It's a beautiful

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Little odd timing for me. Some of

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Speaker 2: you may be jarring to hear my voice at this

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Speaker 2: time of day. I'm ubiquitous. I'm everywhere. I am forever more.

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon alongside the legend East Carry Rhoads at Carrie

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Speaker 2: twenty five Roads on Twitter, where you find him artist, actor,

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Speaker 2: retired football player and Fox Sports contributor is how he

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Speaker 2: you can check that out as well, music and everything

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Speaker 2: else has got going on. It's been a minute, buddy,

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Speaker 2: how are you man? It's great to see you, man,

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Speaker 2: great to hear your voice with me. I hear you

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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 3: I like two ships passing in the night. Usually I

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Speaker 3: see you coming in and out. But always a great

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Speaker 3: time when we get on the mic together and get

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Speaker 3: to share some time. Man. So it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Now we get into our football fun and excitement. I

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Speaker 2: heard the guys Chris and Bo along with Martin and

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Speaker 2: Steve and Rich all doing their divisional previews for the AFC.

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Speaker 2: The least amount I've ever heard Steve Hartman talk. He

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Speaker 2: joked about it on air, and I just have to

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Speaker 2: reiterate it here. As he's getting into his car and

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Speaker 2: driving away, I was like, wow, like very very generous

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what got into him when you

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Speaker 3: told me the story. When I walked in, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I just I was flabbergasted. So to actually see him

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Speaker 3: when we walked in and you know, he got some word.

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Speaker 2: Sound like like he didn't sound like he was, you know,

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Speaker 3: No, he was, he was legit. He just he was

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Speaker 3: being generous. So we got we gotta, you know, acknowledge

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Speaker 3: those days when they come.

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Speaker 2: There, you go just like everybody should have acknowledged their

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Speaker 3: Buying should be.

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Speaker 2: We're watching the end of a preseason game, so congratulations,

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Speaker 2: as they say, on a job done Titans with a

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Speaker 2: three point lead inside the final minute, Saints doing there

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Speaker 2: two minute drill. It's all fun and exciting. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start here with you, Carrie, because we've watched a

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Speaker 2: lot of the preseason, and one of the shifts that

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Speaker 2: we've seen is back into starters. Yes, what'spon a todd

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a cup of coffee, and then

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Speaker 2: we'd always have game three. Right, you're playing career, all right,

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Speaker 2: and you meet you're on first team. It's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna play week three. So it's the

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Speaker 2: ramp up. Not that everybody's not in shape, like you

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Speaker 2: can't do that, Like you're working another job as the

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Speaker 2: milkman or meat delivery like they were in Chicago back

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Speaker 2: I mean that's you want to go take it way back.

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Speaker 2: I was more thinking, you know, when my parents were

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Speaker 2: whatever else, you'd run into players in the offseason, regardless

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Speaker 2: of sport, doing other job. Yes, yes, right, so they

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Speaker 2: So I might start speaking a little more Chicago East today,

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Speaker 2: slipping into my southside. Because Ditka showed up and he

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Speaker 2: which was great, which was it was just perfect stuff.

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Speaker 2: But just the idea that you come in and you

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Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh had success, just say what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? And it looked like we

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Speaker 2: like one year contracts in the NBA. That was just quick.

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Speaker 2: We did that a couple of times and now we're done.

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Speaker 2: why why we the pendulum swung back so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is a level of attrition that's

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Speaker 3: So when I say attrition, when I say, you know,

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Speaker 3: unlike any other thing. You cannot ease back into it.

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Speaker 3: So in that time, you could probably say, and I would,

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Speaker 3: probably suggest that going through that process, going through the

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Speaker 3: playing in preseason games, I bet you those guys didn't

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Speaker 3: get as get hurt as much as they do now. Right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a proponent of that, like really getting there,

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Speaker 3: I know, like you say, like myself and other starters,

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Speaker 3: third preseason game we played a half. Like we didn't

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Speaker 3: So I'm a fan of that. I'm not a fan

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Speaker 2: It's curious, right, because I go back when I was

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Speaker 2: the coaches are finding that delineation between guys. But we

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Speaker 3: It, and think about the joint practices. You're so arm

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Speaker 3: redoing those as well, because there's a point of you

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Speaker 3: take that out on somebody else. Sure, and so you

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Speaker 3: have that energy. But also just take for an instance,

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Speaker 3: So you get there and it's time to practice and

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Speaker 3: It was like a blood bath and fights. Jeremy Shaki myself,

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Speaker 3: Amani toned like, hey, go back and look him up.

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Speaker 2: Folks, if you forgot you love the current crop of

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Speaker 2: tight Ends, your Kittles and Kelsey's or whatever. Let's turn

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Speaker 2: it back what fifteen twenty years at this point when yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that to you. I do

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Speaker 2: a lot earlier than the spirit did. Yes, but back

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Speaker 2: in the day, you weren't going to get cheated.

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Speaker 3: Man. It was one of those matchups I looked forward to.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of one on one guys matchups

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Speaker 3: I had with great tight Ends. But early on, man,

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Shaki was was a dog, and I mean even

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Speaker 3: I like Saki a lot, No, but that was.

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Speaker 2: Like one of those guys that did both. Because now

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys are still really good. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: But it's just that idea that we do have special specialists,

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Speaker 2: Whether it's the Steelers and their quarterback quote unquote competition.

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Speaker 2: quotes for it. It's Russell's job, and him getting hurt

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Speaker 2: But now you've got the battle between he and fields,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about that a little later on, but

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Speaker 2: you've got those circumstances. Otherwise, you've got presumed starting units

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Speaker 2: also I think in the NFL and the invisible hand,

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Speaker 2: the old Adam Smith economics philosophy of we still sell

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Speaker 2: a lot of tickets. We still got a lot of

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Speaker 2: people in the corporate boots. These are still televised. We

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Speaker 2: the guys that are going to be looking for putting

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: We had a good chance, Jason and I to talk

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Speaker 2: to Raheem Mostert a little over a week ago. I

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Speaker 2: was like a guy who's well traveled, go look up

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Speaker 2: his history, check out the podcast of that. It was

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Speaker 2: a fascinating, fun conversation. But talking about his history, the

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Speaker 2: number of teams he traveled to, and he just started

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Speaker 2: talking about training camp and these preseason games of very much.

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Speaker 2: I may not make it here, and this is what

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Speaker 2: every guy has to do when they step on the field.

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Speaker 2: you know what I might not be, which means I

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Speaker 2: the NFL, I was going to use the Patriots as

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Speaker 2: an example of that feeling out period for all those years,

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Speaker 2: because you're one of the few organizations that had stability.

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Speaker 2: We've got so few that you say the coach, the

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Speaker 2: GM decision makers coordinator. This year half the coordinators plugged

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Speaker 2: out on the offensive and defensive side. I think it's

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Speaker 2: thirty one total. In the NFL have a new court,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily guys that are new to the team, but

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Speaker 2: who have the coordinator job. So just that is going

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Speaker 2: to take some time and work to get used to.

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Speaker 2: So all that to say is just grab some popcorn.

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Speaker 2: If yesterday, week zero, day one is evidence of anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, but we still got twelve teams getting in that spot.

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Speaker 3: So you know, if they win the rest of their

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Speaker 3: how many games they left twelve?

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Speaker 2: You're trying to sell Florida State fan now you're trying

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Speaker 2: to bring them back.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I want our winter when we beat them,

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Speaker 3: you know, to have some type of substance for sure.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, when when do you got them? I think

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Speaker 3: we probably have them like the middle of the year.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's around in the middle time.

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Speaker 2: There, No, I think, if I'm looking at this right,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you get them this year.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Well, you know, let's see, we got BC, we

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Speaker 2: got Memphis, we got cal we got s MU, we

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Speaker 2: got Clemson, Duke Miami North Carolina noted Dame and then.

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Speaker 3: The final two Florida.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm getting served all sorts of ads which are

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Speaker 2: screwing up my ability to see here. Charleston Southern is

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Speaker 2: the second to last.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. Okay, so FLA say so nowhere

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Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, they can do what.

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Speaker 2: They need to do. I appreciate that. There you go

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Speaker 2: update on everything going on in our sporting universe, including

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Speaker 2: a celebration for being the worst team possible. Because if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna fail failed spectaculary, my White Sox, it's our guy,

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Oh man?

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Speaker 7: You know, I actually did have an al Central update.

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Speaker 7: That's the one division in which you got three teams

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Speaker 7: and all have a legitimate shot to still win it.

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Speaker 7: Carry I'll just give you an update. The White Sox

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Speaker 7: not one of those. Not one of those. They're on

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Speaker 7: track to be the worst team in baseball. And actually

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Speaker 7: her great advice earlier today on The Countdown the Kickoff

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Speaker 7: show of by Jeff Schwartz. He bets against the White

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Speaker 7: Sox whoever they're playing, he bets them on the run

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Speaker 7: line every single day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, the fate has been remarkable.

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Speaker 7: So Carrie, if this works out, the White Sox is

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Speaker 7: going to lose like some close to one hundred and

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Speaker 7: ten games.

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Speaker 2: Sh Well, they're at one hundred as of today, thirty one.

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Speaker 3: And one hundred, so, like I said, one hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Take it. I was gonna say, that's taking a winning

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Speaker 2: streak in here, Martin.

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Speaker 3: That ain't coming.

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Speaker 2: Grady Sizemore is gonna look like a president at the

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Speaker 2: end of his term after managing for forty five gigs.

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Speaker 7: Well, when you give a you give a fourteen hits

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Speaker 7: to the Tigers, who were one of the most the

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Speaker 7: worst offenses in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, that'll get it done.

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Speaker 7: Thirty one and thirty one and one hundred, the White

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Speaker 7: Sox eighteen and four forty seven at home? Carry Did

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Speaker 7: you think he lost forty seven games in your NFL

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Speaker 7: career Jets show?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm programmed. I mean that's my that's my week.

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Speaker 3: Week he had, Yeah, that and the hosts are ready

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Speaker 3: to go. But he did. Yeah, ready for that one.

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Speaker 3: That You know what that is. That's just a defense mechanism,

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. That's what that is.

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Speaker 2: Because we have just talked about my team losing one

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Speaker 2: hundred games.

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Speaker 3: I'm lounded. I don't care. I actually played on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a jersey off one so I

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Speaker 2: should be nicer.

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Speaker 7: Tigers meet the White Sox nine to four, and other

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Speaker 7: more relevant Al Central scores.

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Speaker 3: The Guardians are.

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Speaker 7: Definitely by a half game over the Royals and the Twins.

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Speaker 7: Guardians meet the Rangers four to two, Phillies three to

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Speaker 7: eleven over the Royals, Cardinals three to two over the Twins.

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Speaker 3: While we're talking about here a normal co host.

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Speaker 7: Jason Smith, the Mets right now they won nothing lead

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Speaker 7: as they're trying to fight for the NL wild card.

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Speaker 7: They lead the Padres one of nothing, top of the fourth,

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Speaker 7: Giants over the Mariners two to one, bottom of the fourth,

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Speaker 7: raise Dodgers still scoreless bottom of the fifth, and in

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Speaker 7: the bottom of the fourth and in the Athletics.

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Speaker 3: Have a three to two lead over the Brewers.

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Speaker 7: Had some preseason football earlier today the Titans and the Saints.

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Speaker 7: Will Levis what's got the start in preseason game three?

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Speaker 7: Surprises And see a starter out there right now seven

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Speaker 7: for eight for him one hundred and eighteen yards passing

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Speaker 7: Spencler Rattler seven for thirteen, one hundred and five yards

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Speaker 7: through the air and a touchdown. I'll tell you this

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Speaker 7: is Spenceraler. Ratler was a Day one or two pick.

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Speaker 7: People would be going crazy over the way his preseason

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Speaker 7: has gone so far. He has been balling Saints lose

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Speaker 7: thirty to twenty seven. In progress currently the Broncos fourteen

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Speaker 7: Cardinals non four point thirty left in the second quarter.

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Speaker 7: No bow Knicks, no Kyler Murray for either one of

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Speaker 7: these teams. Zach Wilson getting the Lion's chair of the work.

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Speaker 7: So far, He's got fifty eight yards passing at twenty

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Speaker 7: one yards rushing.

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Speaker 3: It took a wicket shot at the goal line. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if he knows. I guess he's playing for

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Speaker 3: a job.

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Speaker 7: Audrick Estimae with the touchdown for the Ronco's there and

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Speaker 7: Zach Wilson with one touchdown passing elsewhere in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Jamar Chase practice today in Cincinnati, his first practice as

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Speaker 7: he's still in search of a new contract. He's been

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Speaker 7: sitting out for pretty much all A camp. Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 7: releasing quarterback Mike White. Skyler Thompson at the quarterback number

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Speaker 7: two behind Tua Tongue by LOA and UH. Conflicting reports

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Speaker 7: here so and earlier today the Los Angeles Rams, it

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Speaker 7: was reported they granted starting linebacker Ernest Jones from Missis

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Speaker 7: Tozeka trade. About an hour ago, Ernest Jones tweeted, I

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Speaker 7: did not ask for a trade.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, sources, man, say sources exactly, so a bunch

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Speaker 2: of nonsense.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes. But I'm pretty sure confirmed here.

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Speaker 7: The Rams have released running back Boston Scott, so Boston's

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Speaker 7: got them, not tweet I have not been released.

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Speaker 3: So I think we're good. We're good on that front.

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Speaker 3: We're good. That notice did come through, not yet. I'll

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Speaker 3: keep you updated. I'm here all day back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The spots of Rattler thing though, is an interesting process,

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Speaker 2: right obvious. It's highly touted and we watched him in college.

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Speaker 2: For me, I've been keeping an eye on the the

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Speaker 2: Derek car because he's got a lot of apologies. You

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Speaker 2: can stay with us here Martin if you want here,

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Speaker 2: because you got your Spencer Rattler. Uh yeah, antenna is yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's the idea with Derek Carr, a lot

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Speaker 2: of defenders, not just his brother. And I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: blocked by the rest of the family just for bringing

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Speaker 2: this up. He's an average quarterback. He's average, right for sure,

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Speaker 2: That's what he is at this point. Are you winning

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Speaker 2: with him?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Why the Raiders didn't go and try to figure out

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Speaker 2: some in out, figure out who pay is what, and

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Speaker 2: bring Derek Carr back to make DeVante Adams happy for

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Speaker 2: one more year. I don't know Ratler.

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Speaker 3: Play after three preseason games. I'm ready to do it.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to do it? Vegas? Antonio Pierce, get

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Speaker 3: on the phone.

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Speaker 7: Minnesota interested in the vet, Get on the phone.

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Speaker 2: No sources to any of this. It's just a recognizing

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Speaker 2: who you are and what you are, and what that

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Speaker 2: quarterback is. They've got an out on his contract after

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 3: And what really matters to me in this conversation with

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Speaker 3: both of those guys, Rattler and you talk about about Nicks,

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Speaker 3: I thought both of those guys were going to be

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Speaker 3: trash in college. So they started at their their respective

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Speaker 3: places that they were at first. You know, Nix and Auburn,

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Speaker 3: Rattler in Oklahoma, and you saw those guys play and

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Speaker 3: they had so much buzz, both of them coming into college.

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Speaker 3: I saw them play and Auburn Boat Knicks could not

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Speaker 3: complete a pass for ten yards down the field, and

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Speaker 3: when I saw, I was like, these guys aren't going

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Speaker 3: to be good. Then you go to a different location,

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Speaker 3: in a different spot.

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Speaker 2: That's just did right. It's all about and that's why

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Speaker 2: we keep seeing. I had someone asking me, you know,

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Speaker 2: if Trey Lance, is he gonna end up somewhere else

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Speaker 2: kind of going off, and it's like there's still enough

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Speaker 2: of those traits that it's like the next offensive genius

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Speaker 2: wants to try to fix. Sam Darnold being the great

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Speaker 2: example in Minnesota, right, you saw enough. He's still young.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about his age compared with some of

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Speaker 2: these guys that came into the draft. What is he

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Speaker 2: a year and a half older?

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Speaker 3: A year old?

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Speaker 7: Panic and next year the example, I mean, nixt You're right,

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Speaker 7: his freshman year it was rough. It wasn't really until

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Speaker 7: Oregon I was like, wait a minute, Okay, this guy's

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Speaker 7: a pro for special rally.

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Speaker 3: The thing I find fascinating was super high recruit. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The guy he ended up getting benched for was the

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Speaker 7: guy who was the Heisman winner just a few years

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Speaker 7: later and then the eventual number one overall pick. And

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Speaker 7: in this transfer portal world, he didn't exactly get to

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Speaker 7: the best spot in South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: You have to wonder what it would have been.

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Speaker 7: Like if Spencer Ratler, for example, had done a Jalen

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Speaker 7: Hurts where he ended up getting benched by a guy

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Speaker 7: like Nick Saban and then going and playing for a

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Speaker 7: guy like Lincoln Riley, obviously getting best by Lincoln Rallley,

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Speaker 7: but going on and playing for I don't know, Jim

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Speaker 7: Harbar whoever they would have could have been an entirely

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Speaker 7: different story for Radley.

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Speaker 3: But it goes back to the larger backdrop of this.

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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a documentary series coming out about LSU. Okay,

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Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of the heavyweights, angel Rees being

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Speaker 2: one of them in terms of the nil money. Okay, Right,

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Speaker 2: So I think Daniels is part of it, Like I

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Speaker 2: think there's Livy done, Livy done, and then j I

651
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: think is the fourth. So I think the four of

652
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: them gave it like kind of the behind the scenes.

653
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it with some of the non

654
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: name people as well. But you wonder how much in

655
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: the background for a lot of these guys, and I'm

656
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: not casting his spursion of the people around Rattler or whatever,

657
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: but to where maybe something did them a disservice in

658
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: that part of the process, because that's a new part.

659
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Speaker 3: Of the game.

660
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Right, It was always there in the shadows, right, I

661
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: mean we all know that, and anybody that's doing come on, man,

662
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: you just showed me something that had to be during

663
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: your college. No, but it's it's just that we all

664
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Speaker 2: recognized how how it all worked, even you know, the

665
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Speaker 2: great John Wooden and UCLA. I mean, the stories are

666
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: there for decades, but it's now front and center and

667
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: they're trying to put the guardrails up. We still see

668
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Kirk Farnce and Jim Harball and these recruiting things and

669
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Speaker 2: and the Michigan thing at this point, like he ain't

670
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Speaker 2: coming back is now the kids that have nothing to

671
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: do with it are the ones that ended up. That's

672
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: always been the problem with the NCAA. But just where

673
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: we're at now of like how much of that in

674
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: the background is going to dictate? All Right, we would

675
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: have liked to have him here, but you don't know

676
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: the half of X y Z sure right. The Caleb

677
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: Williams talk about Chicago and what his old man was

678
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: allegedly asking for again sources, but it opened a door

679
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: to a whole other conversation about player empowerment, et cetera,

680
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Like the new NWSL deal that just got signed to

681
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: where they're kind of gonna they're gonna go to the

682
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: European style, so there's not a draft. So the hope

683
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: is that more of the players that were starting to

684
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: travel and play abroad, yeah, stay at home because they

685
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: get some choice into what they're doing and it becomes

686
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: a bidding war and process, which has its own problems.

687
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: We get that, but in the end, trying to figure

688
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: out where the best systems are. But for quarterbacks that

689
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: find themselves down in in a school that maybe didn't

690
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: seem commensurate with their initial evaluations and skill sets, you

691
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: wonder where that gap is and how much in that

692
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: pie goes to people around the nil puzzle school for

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: school because some relate adopters. One of my criticisms at Northwestern,

694
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: it's like that should have been one of the first things. Wait,

695
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: we've now got the ability to bring in all these

696
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: people from the business world, acting world, all these other

697
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: places of people of influence, and they were slow to mobilize.

698
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Now they're getting up to speed. Now Syracuse did the

699
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: same thing, so Smith was yelling about it there, But

700
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Speaker 2: in schools where it could really make a substantive difference, right,

701
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Michigan's always going to get players. Oh Ohio state's always

702
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: going to get players. Now you got wait, guy that

703
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: might have been a fringe guy for us with the

704
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: right package, Oh, might decide to come to Chicago for sure?

705
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: Right the same thing here, a guy like Spencer Rattler

706
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: and others of that ilk where you're wondering, Okay, show

707
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: me the steps that led you there and takes nothing

708
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: away from South Carolina. It's just where he starts, and

709
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: then from there and then going into the draft evaluation thereafter,

710
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 2: apples and oranges in terms of who's running routes for you.

711
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: This is this is going to be your new deal.

712
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: I think you should do a documentary on it. That's it.

713
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: You sound very passionate about it.

714
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: No, I think it's absolutely a fascinating time that we're

715
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: living in uh and again with no real rules and

716
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: being written.

717
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: As they go.

718
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we didn't really like how that one went,

719
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: so we should put that in. But you're you're the

720
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Speaker 2: n C Double A and you've got no more juice,

721
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: So what is it going to take an Act of Congress.

722
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: They've got other things to do. People. He's carry roads

723
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Speaker 2: on my Carmen. That's Martin Weiss over there. You hear

724
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: him on Saturdays alongside VJ. Husky as well as man.

725
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: He's ubickamous, he's our gall over, he's everywhere. He's a

726
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: man about tow. We've got Chris Purphett, weve got Bo

727
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: Benson making a sound so pretty today. Coming up next,

728
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 2: we're gonna get everybody involved because now we have that

729
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: weird gap. Now there's a couple of college games, but

730
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: we're still two weeks away really from the NFL in total,

731
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: which means you've got some film work to do. We're

732
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Speaker 2: gonna go through and try to figure out a metal

733
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Speaker 2: stand of best football movies. Coming up next here on Fox,

734
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Speaker 2: it's fight Night, and Carry Rhads is getting ready to

735
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Speaker 2: run back in. It's like you, we're gonna come to

736
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Speaker 2: the aid of a teammate that was getting manhandled downfield

737
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Speaker 2: after a after a scramble and then you immediately held

738
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Speaker 2: your shoulder like you you pulled something. Carrie Rhads, Mike

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Speaker 2: Harmon with you here, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday,

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741
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742
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743
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746
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Speaker 2: I think we got a couple of big ones coming

747
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: on as we get ready for football season. So starting

748
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 2: to see some of those memos as well. Always room

749
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 2: for aggressive expansion. And with that movie line and trying

750
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: to get myself into that that hype mode, you know,

751
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: you find yourself finding deep into the night right you're

752
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: looking for something to watch. I'll either find a cooking

753
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: show or I'll find a sports movie. Okay, And right now,

754
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: as we get ready for a football season, we got

755
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: these college games in the books. The preseason is gonna

756
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: be over. My team's lost a hundred games in Major

757
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: League Baseball, So while I watched them, I can always

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: have a second screen experience. It's it's always fine for me,

759
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: but well I will do time and time again just

760
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: because well, for giggles, you got any given Sunday, because

761
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: of the number of one liners and legends that show

762
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: up in there, will always find me. Yeah, no, like

763
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: whenever I find that. It's like the old line that

764
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: we had was you got shawshanked right, it was on

765
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: cable and we're wherever it was.

766
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: You're until the end, sure.

767
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: Right, you're until he crawls through the warden does his

768
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: thing and Clancy Brown go kats one of the great

769
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: actors of our time who we'd run into at the

770
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: stadium a few times. Charger fan frim But it's the

771
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, he goes through his processes and all you

772
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: stop whatever you're doing, and you stop, uh looking at

773
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: other channels and trying to find something else. I've got

774
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: that and I've got Draft Day. So those are my

775
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: two right off the jump. Okay, Carry Rhodes football movie

776
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: for folks to watch now that they've now that they're

777
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: Jones and you're fiending for football because you've been fed

778
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: this appetite. Your appetite has been wetted by all of

779
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: these games, close calls, fantastic finishes.

780
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'll go. I mean, obviously my time,

781
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: you know the program, the program there you gound was

782
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: a good one. It was the one that was obviously

783
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: souped up in of what what football represents. But you

784
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: got a lot of drama.

785
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: And any type you got Jimmy Kahn in a movie

786
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean a.

787
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: Lot of drama, a lot of intensity. But the other

788
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: one that's a little bit off the beaten path, I

789
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 3: think a lot of people still probably would under would know. Uh,

790
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: I can't think of the name right now. The Armadillo's

791
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: what's the name of the movie? Necessary Roughness? Thank you?

792
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you?

793
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: Robert Loja exactly, and Kathy Ireland kick and Field got

794
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: bacul kick and field goals.

795
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: You've got to.

796
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: But any time Robert Loja gets in the mix, he

797
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: was always a family hero.

798
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: So I take those two.

799
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Bo you got one that you want to add to

800
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: the list for people for required view? Yeah, next next

801
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: week or so. Did you say Friday Night Lights?

802
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: No? I have not.

803
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday Night Lights for sure. Watching that movie, the

804
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: beginning of it, when they do the montage of the

805
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: town like that takes me back to doing two a

806
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: days when I played in high school. So I think

807
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: we everyone that's that's ever put on pads knows that feeling.

808
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: So watching that movie invokes that, do you start getting creaky?

809
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, you start feeling. And I and I

810
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: only played in I played in a tiny high school

811
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: iron man league, So I cannot imagine how other people feel.

812
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, Friday Night Lights is up there. I like

813
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: any Giving Sunday. That's that's good. It's a little more dramatic.

814
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, those two I think are the two big

815
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: football movies for me. Chris Purfet, you got one that

816
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: we want to add to our movie marathon.

817
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: You know, I've kind of been I'm kind of a

818
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 6: little bit known around here as the sports movie hater.

819
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 6: I'm not big on sports movies at all. I think

820
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 6: my favorite is probably Uncut Gems, which is really about

821
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 6: sports gambling and Kevin Garnett. If I'm gonna go to football, though,

822
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 6: I've got a pretty low bar, I find a lot

823
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: of them. Saturine, I will go with I did. I

824
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: do kind of enjoy The long Shots, Okay, just as

825
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: Fred Durst. I don't know if it was his directorial debut,

826
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 6: but he did direct it, and Ice Cubes in it

827
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: and does well and then I forget the name of

828
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: the actress in there, but it's it's about a woman,

829
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 6: and it's about a girl in Pop Warner, so it's

830
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 6: it's it's fun.

831
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Speaker 3: It's fun.

832
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Uh does a East Ventura count as a football movie?

833
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: YEA I that does then, yea. There for me, it's

834
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: like we do die Hard at Christmas.

835
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: Maybe it works. One that I've had about that though,

836
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: one that I've had on my Chris.

837
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: One of that I've had on kind of my to

838
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: watch list forever and I don't know if I'll ever

839
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 6: get around to. It was made for TV, but it

840
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 6: was based on the book Monday Night Mayhem, and I've

841
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 6: wanted to watch that for a while. I think John

842
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 6: Taturo plays Howard Cosell in that movie. Yes, it's about

843
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: the start of Monday football, so it's been kind of

844
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 6: like circled for a while.

845
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: That's a good one, Mark White, you got one that

846
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: you want to add to.

847
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: The Yeah, I mean Chris is getting close to the

848
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: right idea. You guys are so serious to program any

849
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 7: give it Sunday. How about the annexation of Puerto Rico.

850
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: Of course I was gonna say that, Martin after you

851
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: got done, so.

852
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 7: I appreciate I say that. And the other one I

853
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 7: might steal from you as well from your former team

854
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 7: show me the money on.

855
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: Nicely.

856
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: The last one and one that I've shared with my

857
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: daughters on a number of occasions.

858
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: Remember the Titans. Of course, that's a great one.

859
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: There you go, dude. So we get Denzel Denzel, and

860
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: we get some singing along the way. Got little Hayden

861
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: pint area too. That's true, that's right. The daughter see

862
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: all those times he is carry roads. I'm by Carmen

863
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Speaker 2: at Carrie twenty five Roads. Find me over at Swollen Dome.

864
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Speaker 2: We continue with Mare from the National Football League on Fox. Oh,

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867
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Speaker 2: of those Steph Curry jump shots and Team USA and

868
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Speaker 2: all those gold medals, some of the controversies starting to

869
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870
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Speaker 2: Week zero college football games and the exhibition season for

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Speaker 2: the NFL, thankfully drawing to a close welcome. In another

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside Carrie Rhoads, a man

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Speaker 2: of letters, a man distinguished in the National Football League,

874
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Speaker 2: a man who calls it Louisville properly the right way.

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Speaker 2: He's a good man. He's at Carrie twenty five Roads. Actor, singer, artist,

876
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877
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878
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Speaker 2: artistry and the world in the post playing career, and

879
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: he obviously hanging out with us here on a beautiful

880
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. How much were you geeked at the

881
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: final whistle of I said, geeked showing my age at

882
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: the final whistle of a preseason game, knowing that that

883
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: part of the time in the calendar was done.

884
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: The static it's time to go, you know, once that,

885
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: once the preseason is finally over, that fourth one is

886
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: the longest.

887
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: How long does it take in camp though, because we

888
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: saw Aaron Rodgers Wright and each team did these fun

889
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: little things. We'll talk about the one the Bears did

890
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: a little bit later as we get into Caleb Williams

891
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: and the grand expectations. I talked about building an arc. Yeah,

892
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: and I was expecting people to come to by two

893
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: and just you know, slowly fill it up. I was, Noah,

894
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: come on, let's get on the bandwagon now in terms

895
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: of my giant ship and I will take you to greatness.

896
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: And then they came thousands at a time and here

897
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: we are. But you know from that time that you

898
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: stepped foot on training camp. So the bit that the

899
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Jets did was what was overrated. The Bears did their best,

900
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, guilty Pleasure song, just real fun and surprising

901
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: ones mixed there. But for the Jets, it's like all

902
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: these guys are talking about foods and experiences and then

903
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers just dead pants to the camera. Training camp.

904
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: What time, what point in the in the continuum. As

905
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: a veteran, did you hit the training camp being overrated

906
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: and that you were done?

907
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm a firm believer in the work,

908
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: and you had to do the work. Obviously, that's part

909
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: of my DNA. So I don't know if I would

910
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: say I would have that response to it. But there

911
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: is a such thing as the dog days of camp,

912
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: and once you get to that, it's probably you want

913
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: it to be over. And I mean for me, that

914
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: would be maybe like two and a half weeks in

915
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: because again we haven't played in the preseason game. You're

916
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: just practicing. You're doing the same thing. It's routine, in

917
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: the same guys routine.

918
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: You're like, I still do it two a days because

919
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: you've got to talk about going uphill both ways. Yeah,

920
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: in the snow, no shoes, oh, or shoes that were

921
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: kind of ripped on the side. Oh yeah, you know

922
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: all of those things. If we talk about if we're

923
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: more than thirty years old.

924
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: Right, it's that vibe. And so yeah, probably like two

925
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: and a half weeks in, you're you're over it. You're

926
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: tired of the You're tired of eating the same thing

927
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: as well, because the food is the same as well.

928
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: So all of that is redundant and becoming not so

929
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: edible and tasty at that point. So you're trying to,

930
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: you know, have some type of levity. And I think

931
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 3: the levity that you can have, which in my day

932
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: was a big big deal was the rookie sh and

933
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if they do that as much. Still

934
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: I've seen some videos Oh yous a clips.

935
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Man, there's still it's still living on in some form,

936
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: if nothing else, for the forced act of hard knocks.

937
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: Probably yeah, for the TVs. Yeah, I mean, which.

938
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: As I've theorized, and folks, if you've watched any of

939
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: this on Max. As this has developed for the Bears,

940
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: go back to the preseason right off season Giants one.

941
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: They inadvertently stepped into greatness with the ineptitude and some

942
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: of the silliness of the front office, that famous phone

943
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: call to Saquon Barkley, which might as well have been

944
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: a crank anchors. You're really gonna call us back, aren't you.

945
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: I think those two teams, and you can correct me

946
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: if you think I'm wrong. That swollen down and bring

947
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: the pain is both of those teams worked a brilliant

948
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: strategy of we're going to try to be so boring

949
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: you're never gonna ask us to be on again.

950
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: Right.

951
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: We had the production people talking, yeah, out of deference

952
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: to the McCaskey family, there's no cursing, so that's missing.

953
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: No matter how foul mouthed any of the assistant coaches

954
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: may be, any of the frank discussions between players, it's

955
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: absolutely tamped down to where it's almost, you know, FCC compliant,

956
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: as opposed to previous iterations of guys you know, falling

957
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: all over themselves and spit coming out as they get

958
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: the the f's out and everything else. So you've got that.

959
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: So it's been pretty boring. Joked about the ice cream

960
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: museum and whatever, but it would appear that that part

961
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: of camp at least survives a little bit.

962
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: Get to know your rookies, yeah, you got to know

963
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: the rookies, the rookies putting them out there. You said

964
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 3: something about it earlier, you know, the signing bonus thing,

965
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: and that's such a big deal back in the day.

966
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: You come on, I'm I'm Jack Johnson, and I make

967
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand of my signing bones in the whole

968
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: the yeah Hi dinner sign him exactly. Oh man, that stuff,

969
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: the rookie dinners.

970
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: See, this is where I always wanted guys to keep

971
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: their receipts, because we would get they would trickle out

972
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: it on social media. And certainly, let's go back some years,

973
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: as you know, cell phones became, you know, so so prevalent.

974
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: It's like I always wanted guys to show that out

975
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: a little bit, like look how I got abused and

976
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: for nothing else, giving us scale, right, because we all

977
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: think about nights out, and depending on the circle you keep,

978
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: nights out might just be the cheap dive bar down

979
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: the street and whatever apps they serve sandwiches. Some of

980
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: them will let you order in a pizza from next

981
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: door or whatever else. Versus, Hey, we're going out and

982
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know, go a little bit bougie, so

983
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: I actually have to make reservations. And you actually have

984
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: to come in and now we talk about credit card

985
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: roulette and all those other things that start flowing in,

986
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: Like it's that strata. And certainly when it comes to

987
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: you know, NFL players, NBA players, Major League Baseball, whatever,

988
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: we always see the veterans when they're on rehab assignments.

989
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: They're picking up meals, and that gets publicized because it's

990
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: food they haven't seen and that's in their entire process, right.

991
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: That part too. So like our rookie dinner, I mean

992
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: the rookies on that came in with me. I was

993
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: the fourth round guy, but we had we had we

994
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: didn't have a first we didn't have a first round pick,

995
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: but we had two second round picks. And we had

996
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: a kicker from Ohio State, Mike Jugit and.

997
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: One of the greatest misses ever at Northwestern baby let's go.

998
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: And we had a Clemson defensive back, Justin Miller, and

999
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: so all of us, you know, we you know, we

1000
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: were the the substantial signing bonus.

1001
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: I got to go back and look at what Dugit

1002
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: got is.

1003
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: And so we're doing the rookie dinner and we go

1004
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 3: out to dinner, we do a whole big thing and

1005
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: that bill got up to around like twenty k for dinner,

1006
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: and here I don't remember.

1007
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, but a guestimation because we always want

1008
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: to put it to a per person because I know

1009
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: we can get to that. Twenty thousand really is easily.

1010
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Like we're in Los Angeles, all right, We've all been

1011
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of night life at times, and you

1012
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: get sticker show.

1013
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: But we're not even talking about the nightlife here. We're

1014
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: just talking about we're talking about dinner.

1015
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: But but you could do that with a bottle of one.

1016
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh easily. Right.

1017
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: You got two guys that are eatophiles at the end

1018
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: of the off shore, at the end, they go give

1019
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: us the wide list for sure. All of a sudden,

1020
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: it's like the vet's sitting there and give me a straw, right, no,

1021
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: for sure, And all of a sudden you're at twenty

1022
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: thousand before you blame it.

1023
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: Quick, yeah, And I'm looking at it. I'm like, yeah,

1024
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: I just got designing ones. But I don't want to

1025
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to pay that. I don't know what

1026
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: that what that looks crazy?

1027
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: It was a house, man, it was a house, a

1028
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: car or whatever you're at. But yeah, twenty k and easy.

1029
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Do you guys at least put that.

1030
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: We split it, we split it.

1031
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, kickers always wanted to be people too.

1032
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: That's the eyes of mine. Yeah, come on here, you're

1033
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: one of the guys. Now be a part of the

1034
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: first rounder.

1035
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny, but no, those those were the

1036
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at it at that time. Obviously

1037
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: it feels like you're being indoctrinated or whatever the case

1038
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: may be. But it's such a bonding thing still. Even

1039
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: though it gets outrageous sometimes and you know, those numbers

1040
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: can't get high, there is still some type of I guess,

1041
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: like a good feeling of being your.

1042
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: Beginning and that and that's one of the biggest thing

1043
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: because it also if someone's telling you you're you're paying

1044
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: that bill, means you're probably not in any trouble that

1045
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: you're losing losing at least your spot. You may not start,

1046
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: you may you know, still be fighting to get your

1047
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: rotation in. Now that's the kicker, that you're the kicker.

1048
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: But the point just being that if they're saying give

1049
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: the credit card, because the veterans, they know, they know

1050
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: before you're going out to dinner, don't go looking for

1051
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: that guy because he probably ain't gonna be regardless of

1052
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: what the bonus like, you will play your way out

1053
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: like it's it's sunk cost. At that point, you get

1054
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: a guy into camp, and like we were talking about

1055
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: last hour, Carrie, it was the just the idea of

1056
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: different fit, different circumstance, and you may be covered up

1057
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: by the guys you play around.

1058
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like for better or for worse. Right in

1059
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: my situation, like fourth round guy, you don't expect that

1060
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: guy to come in and public start right away. But

1061
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: the way the Dominoes felt the start and safety they

1062
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: had last year, the year prior to me, Reggie Tongue

1063
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 3: he was he had just got traded out and so

1064
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: the spot was kind of open still. I didn't you know,

1065
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 3: you're not You're not coming in and think you're a

1066
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: starting But you go through the rookie camp and you

1067
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: see the guys that you're going against that are coming in,

1068
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, I'm I feel like I'm a

1069
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: step above that. But then you bring the vet camp

1070
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: come in, and you have the other guys come in,

1071
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: and you have Chad Pennington over there and Curtis Martin

1072
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: and Laburnie is cold and like you're like, okay, this

1073
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: is a different animal. But I felt like I belonged then.

1074
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: And had a conversation with our coach at the time,

1075
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: Herr Netwards, and he was like, you know, we brought

1076
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 3: you in here to start, and so just that word,

1077
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Speaker 3: like having that reassurance.

1078
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: We talking about how far how far along did you

1079
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: get that from?

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Speaker 3: This was in this was in the first camp with

1081
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: all the all the veterans. Okay, so this is early,

1082
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: got through rookie camps. We got through right now, it's

1083
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: like we're showing up. It's all right, what's we got

1084
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: our sprint? This is opening week. And just that word,

1085
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: like just somebody giving you that reassurance like you belong here.

1086
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: That's all I needed. And I'm sure that trickles down

1087
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: to other players as well, like that reassurance, that acceptance,

1088
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: we believe in you type of attitude. I mean, the

1089
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: sky's the limit when that happens.

1090
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: Well, because that goes into a lot of the conversations

1091
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: we've had around training camps these last couple of weeks,

1092
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: right talking about guys fighting for jobs, whether it be quarterback,

1093
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: which is the most publicized, or on down the line.

1094
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: You know, in each marketplace is certainly dealing with that.

1095
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: Guys trying to be part of a linebacking corps being

1096
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: the you know, nickelback or whatever, and see what I

1097
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: did there. Whatever it might be that you're trying to

1098
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: solidify your place, but I gotta imagine for a defensive unit,

1099
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: for an offensive unity. The sooner you can have the

1100
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: coach come and tap you on the shoulder, not only

1101
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: for your own confidence, but everybody around you going all right,

1102
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: coach gave him the nod, that's it. We need to

1103
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: coach him up because we're stuck with his ass or

1104
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: for worse, like he's now one of us, you know,

1105
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: and now we get to make him pay for this.

1106
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: But it's just that far.

1107
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: But just that idea of of early on getting that

1108
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: now versus what we've seen with some of these camps,

1109
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: like how does that go over in.

1110
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 8: A locker room because there's outward noise, sure noise, and

1111
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 8: we can put the capital in on there, versus how

1112
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 8: much of that is still bleeding back in or do

1113
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 8: they know?

1114
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: And it's all just a big act. I think there's

1115
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: too many people that have to keep that together. It's

1116
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: like conspiracies, theories and secrets, the more people that know,

1117
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: eventually it's gonna leak, and not just from anonymous sources.

1118
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: And I think that's the time frame. So my time

1119
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: frame not as much, not as accessible. Right nowadays everybody

1120
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: knows everything. Our time in New York with herm it

1121
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: wasn't that way. But when Mangini was there, it was

1122
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: he knew everything. So anything that was going on, I say,

1123
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: somebody went to go do a show on Cold Pizza

1124
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: at the time or whatever. Let's get that. Yeah back,

1125
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: imagine like on that like he would have a team

1126
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 3: meeting and he would show that on the big screen.

1127
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 3: So whatever you were doing, everybody knew everything on the team.

1128
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: And you think of it being annoying at the time,

1129
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: but everybody's in the same place, on the same footing.

1130
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: Nothing gets by anybody. It doesn't matter who you are.

1131
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: We are all here, and so you go do that.

1132
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 3: He's letting the whole team know this guy is doing

1133
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: all these things. Is he really focusing on football? And

1134
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: so it actually brings you back to a point like

1135
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: a homeo stasis where all right, outside stuff doesn't matter.

1136
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: It's about what we what we know about in this

1137
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: locker room, and nothing's off limits.

1138
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: See I was gonna make the obvious joke about mangen stuff.

1139
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 9: Don't do it, man, Jeanie's my guy. Now, I'm just

1140
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 9: saying he dow some stuff. He lets some other people know,

1141
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 9: you know, do some stuff. He's carry Rhodes up by Carbon. Hey,

1142
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 9: coming up next, we're going to stay in the NFL.

1143
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 9: Longtime friend of the network, our guy, Adam Kaplan stops

1144
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 9: by for his weekly visit with the show carrying Mike here,

1145
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 9: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back and

1146
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday by Carbon carry Rhodes

1147
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 9: with you having a blast. Coming up in a couple

1148
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 9: of minutes, we'll have Adam Kaplan with us here talking

1149
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 9: a little NFL action as we go.

1150
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: Mary Mack has.

1151
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Tagged in for Chris Purfett on the ones and twos,

1152
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: Mart and Weiss on the updates and the news desk.

1153
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: Ye all making us sound so pretty man, which is

1154
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: what it's all about. At Carrie twenty five Roads find

1155
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome. So let's bring on the

1156
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: aforementioned Adam Kaplan talking all things National Football League. His

1157
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: training camps are done. Preseason fun is done? Adam, how

1158
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: are you this afternoon?

1159
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: I'm good. Look, I'm glad to be off the road

1160
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: here or is on the road for a better part

1161
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 4: of four weeks. Yeah, going to training camps, joint practices, practices,

1162
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: and yeah we got wont game left tonight Patriots at

1163
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 4: the Commanders, And that'll do it. As we turn the page,

1164
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 4: folks to the regular season, what was.

1165
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: The what's the biggest part of the grind when you

1166
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: get to like week two, week three, what's the thing

1167
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: that you're missing or you're lamenting most?

1168
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 4: Uh, well, no, the only thing it's the heat. I mean,

1169
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: Carrie knows as a former player. As it drags on,

1170
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: it gets to be more and more and more. But

1171
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, though, I'd like to join

1172
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 4: practices that when we go and you know it's gonna

1173
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: happen when we go to the eighteen game schedule, right.

1174
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 3: Go to just two preseason games.

1175
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: It's Cary, he's laughing as he knows the drill. You

1176
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 4: know they're gonna be more, even more joint practices because

1177
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: you've got to make it up somehow, and joint practices

1178
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: are pretty good effect. There's so much more game planning.

1179
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: I noticed talking to coaches in the preseason games and

1180
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: we also we can talked to carry about that in

1181
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: terms of what goes on in preseason game planning, but

1182
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: in practices, I mean I'm talking to guys, oh yeah,

1183
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 4: like we because we know that they can't share this tape,

1184
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: the practice tape right now allowed to do that. So yeah,

1185
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: I think the joint practice are very valuable.

1186
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on that one for sure, Adam.

1187
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 3: The joint practices were fun. You actually got to we're

1188
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: going out there to actually put up some points on

1189
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: them and try to embarrass them while we could. And

1190
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: that's that's part of the that's part of what that entails.

1191
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 3: But outside of the China Camp stuff, I know that's

1192
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: ending right now when you I know you've had your

1193
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 3: fund with that. But what are you looking forward to

1194
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: the most as the season start And what's team do

1195
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: you have under under the radar team that you're you're

1196
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: looking to uh kind of blast out this season.

1197
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what. When we look at teams

1198
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: that or hype not hyped, and teams that people have

1199
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Speaker 4: expectations for, I know, I know the odds makers are

1200
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: very big on the Chicago Bears. That team, look, they

1201
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: they've not had a four thousand yeard passer before. They're

1202
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: so loaded on offense. They've rebuilt their offensive line over

1203
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: the last three years. I know talking to people there,

1204
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 4: they feel so good about the skill set around Caleb Williams.

1205
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: They're just gonna be fun in.

1206
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: A division where the Lions and the Packers are going

1207
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: to dominate. We know the vikings now of all sorts

1208
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: of problems. But the question for the Bears is can

1209
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: they put for Waldcrts. But but the oddsmakers at eight

1210
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: and a half nine wins, they've been on this Matt

1211
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: Everflew's potential of being the coach of the year. That's

1212
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 4: a team that I'm not saying they're going to make

1213
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: a Texans type of jump. They're getting hyped. I mean

1214
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: the Bears have the hype, not the kind of hype

1215
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: you know last year the Lion's got. But on your question,

1216
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: that's a team I'm looking forward to seeing this season.

1217
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: It's fun to see a guy go from being odds

1218
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: favorite to be.

1219
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Fired to potentially being coach of the year.

1220
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Speaker 2: As the South Side Chicago and of residents here, Adam

1221
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: At Kaplan NFL. Where you find Adam, I'll find him

1222
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: there the Inside the Birds podcast Insider here for Fox

1223
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio each and every week as part of Red

1224
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: Zone Radio here on Fox Sports Radio. And Adam to

1225
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: that point, we're watching a replay of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1226
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: Has this ever really been a battle between Wilson and

1227
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: Fields or is it just a media hype with a

1228
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of compilation.

1229
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: I guess yeah.

1230
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: I was there with the Steelers about a week and

1231
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: a half ago for two days, and Wilson just come

1232
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: back from this calf injury. You know, Mike Thomans said

1233
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: all offseason, Look, it's, you know, Wilson's the pole position.

1234
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: And then when Fields got off the good start training camp,

1235
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: it kind of backed off a little bit, but not

1236
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: really lately it's you know, Wilson did start that preseason game.

1237
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 4: Now the third the third preseason game is no longer

1238
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: the dress rehearsal really potentially for most teams, because it

1239
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 4: used to be, as you know, the fourth game would

1240
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: be the game that nobody plays. In the third game

1241
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: we rehearsal. But now the Steelers, folks, they're one of

1242
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: the few teams that they don't just play stars. They

1243
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: put this starts playing every game, and again Wilson did

1244
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: start that game.

1245
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: Adam, So I mean, I'd be remiss to not bring

1246
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: up your Eagles. Hasn't been a lot of Eagles talk

1247
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: this offseason obviously. I think people have them picked the

1248
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: win at division.

1249
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: But good though, isn't it? And I finally calm down,

1250
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: I agree with.

1251
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: That, But what is it because of wanting to temper

1252
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: the hype or people just kind of board with what

1253
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 3: Philly has put on tape the last couple of years.

1254
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 4: Carry I would say this with the Eagles just because

1255
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: of the way if they finished last year losing six

1256
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: out of seven, getting embarrassed in the playoffs at Tampa Bay,

1257
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 4: they're kind of flying under the radar. You know, Jalen

1258
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: Hurts took a step back last season, they have two

1259
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: new coordinators, a lot of change there. And you know

1260
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: the crazy stat, the divisional stat is no one's won

1261
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: that division back to back since two thousand and four.

1262
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: So Dallas won it last year, so you figure they're

1263
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: not going to win it now. They just lost Toron

1264
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 4: Bland for minimum of two months. That's a big injury

1265
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: for them. They got to get ceedee lamb back here,

1266
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: who's holding out. They feel confident they're going to get

1267
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: this deal done before Week one. Their team turmoil seemingly

1268
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 4: as usual. But I would say with Philly it's they're

1269
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: kind of flying out of the radar, which is kind

1270
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: of really rare for them. They usually not like that.

1271
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: But there's not a lot of hype. You're right, I

1272
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: don't there's no hype at all with them.

1273
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a little bit of the you know,

1274
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: Sirianni and the Hurts, didn't they get along last year

1275
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff, And then you have obviously

1276
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: they had changed coordinators, which you thought would have materialized

1277
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: early in the season as opposed to where they were late.

1278
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Jacksonville Jaguar fans were happy because their collapse

1279
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: was superseded by all topics, right, yeah.

1280
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: All right, to be honest with you, with the Jacksonville

1281
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: and and I did pick them all mit I did

1282
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: pick them to win that division. That was a total collapse.

1283
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: They had that thing mid mid season. I don't want

1284
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: to say wrapped up, but they're clearly on their way

1285
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 4: to win that division. And Doug Peterson fired pretty much

1286
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: as all defensive staff redid that boy that that was

1287
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Speaker 4: a stunner to me. Now I think what happened. Let's

1288
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Speaker 4: be hones with you on this situation with with Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 4: I remember being with the type excuse me, the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: leading up to that season of training camp, and he

1291
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: was like the anti Urban Meyer, breath of fresh air,

1292
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Speaker 4: a lot of positivity. It's what they needed. And then

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Speaker 4: you know last season they had pretty high expectations based

1294
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Speaker 4: on what happened with Trevor Lawrence two years ago, and

1295
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: you know he took a step back last season. Still,

1296
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Speaker 4: by the way, it's being paid fifty five million a

1297
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: year now with his extension. But the fans now are

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Speaker 4: kind of curious, I know you looking at social media

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Speaker 4: and a Jaguar fans are like, what's going on with

1300
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: this football team? And after what the Texans did coming

1301
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: out of nowhere like the Jaguars did two years ago,

1302
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: that the Jaguars or team are they in transition? What

1303
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Speaker 4: are they? I think that's a team to watch the season.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing about the NFL. A lot of

1305
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: people don't understand when you have a long term success

1306
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: at a place that just doesn't come, that doesn't come easy.

1307
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Speaker 3: And so when you look at the dinas seas or

1308
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 3: the teams that are consistent throughout the years that are

1309
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Speaker 3: going to put a good product out there, it's a

1310
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: jam because again, you look at Jacksonville young team, a

1311
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: budding star two years ago at the quarterback position. Then

1312
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Speaker 3: you go from that year having some you know, some confidence,

1313
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: having some you know, some awareness about that team, and

1314
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: then you've faltered the way you did. Now it's like,

1315
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: all right, do you have to rebuild? Do we keep going?

1316
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: So they're in a transition period. So I mean, obviously

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Speaker 3: you probably picked the Texans to win a division, right Adam,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I definitely.

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Speaker 4: Will care, but I want to stick with Jacksonville for

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Speaker 4: a seconds. So shot Con, their owner, kind of went

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Speaker 4: on the record and he talked about and this is

1322
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: just so rare for an owner to say this. He

1323
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: says that they got to get back to player development,

1324
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: and that obviously goes on to Doug Peterson. And if

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars don't make the playoffs, they don't have to

1326
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 4: win the division. But if they don't make the playoffs,

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 4: I think Doug Peterson's going to be the hot seat.

1328
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: In fact, I know he will be he that collapse

1329
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: is terrible and shot Con is so supportive with spending

1330
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: money or do whatever it takes building practice facility. They've

1331
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: looked at the cons have done what they can. At

1332
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: some point it's got to be up the coaching staff

1333
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 4: to not only develop these players but take the next level.

1334
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Speaker 4: And they've not had a lot of success in Jacksonville

1335
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 4: for the last twenty years. And they came out of

1336
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: nowhere in twenty seventeen. If you're a remember under Doug Morone,

1337
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: no one saw that coming. Almost made the Super Bowl. Yeah,

1338
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: but they've fallen back, you know, they fell back a

1339
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: while and obviously the ever Myer experience didn't work out well.

1340
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: But that's a team that you got to watch. If

1341
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: you look at if the three of us ranked, Okay,

1342
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: give me your coaches on the hot seater. Coaches have

1343
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: to win or the microft microscope is going to be

1344
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 4: on them. It's going to be on Doug Peterson, There's

1345
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 4: no question about.

1346
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be probably the leader in the clubhouse

1347
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: as it were. Maybe you look down to New Orleans

1348
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: and we can go down McCarthy, who's perennial hot seat,

1349
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: go on down the line out here in Los Angeles.

1350
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: Excitement a bit for the Rams people starting to get

1351
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: back on board that Adam. But obviously we're keeping an

1352
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: eye on Jim Harball and everything Charges related. We know

1353
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: we're going to get some great quotes from him every week.

1354
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: But what am I expecting from his team in a

1355
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: rebuilt offense with some new names both at tailbag guys

1356
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: that he gets from his brother that can't stay healthy. Yes, yes,

1357
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: and a new receiving corps. What am I expecting?

1358
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? I spent a day with them. They had joint

1359
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: practice with with h We'll start with the Chargers here.

1360
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: They had joined practice with the Rams. They refuses, they're

1361
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: refusing to call to rebuild. They think they've they've fortified

1362
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: their offensive line with Joe Alt, who's more of a

1363
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: left tackle than right. But you know they're gonna stick

1364
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 4: with Sean Slater at left. You know it's coming. With

1365
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: Greg Roman the run game, GM told me that the

1366
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 4: the most sophisticated run game he's ever seen. It's Romans.

1367
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: It's un orthodox, but it's phenomenal. And the odds makers, man,

1368
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: they were they were already out in front of eight

1369
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 4: and a half wins. I just don't see it. Uh,

1370
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 4: they're a team that's sort of in transitioner. Yes, they've

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 4: got Justin Herbert with their Planet Fashion injury coming back,

1372
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: they're gonna be so much run based, they'll be about

1373
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 4: seven or eight wins there, to be honest with, the

1374
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Speaker 4: Rams are better than they are. No, No, the Ram.

1375
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 4: No Aaron Donald, and that can't underestimated. But Matthew Stafford

1376
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: is there. Blake korm you mentioned him, who really a

1377
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 4: good story. But I hope back up Kyen Williams is

1378
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: certainly the starter there. I'll mention to see what happens

1379
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 4: here without Aaron Donald. That's that's gonna be fascinating. They

1380
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 4: haven't had to face this since twenty fourteen.

1381
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Do you think he finds his way back into a

1382
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: uniform in November?

1383
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 4: No? Based on talking to people who know him, he

1384
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: kind and he walked away from a lot of money.

1385
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: By the way, Sun Carrie, you could attest to this

1386
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: man when it's out of your when you feel like

1387
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 4: you're done, and not to take the physicality of that game.

1388
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 4: And I always talk to players when they retire, and

1389
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 4: so many of them don't feel right physically. Sadly, it's

1390
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: one of the saddest things about covering this league is

1391
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 4: how guys feel when they're done. You know, he remember

1392
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: there was talk two years ago about him retiring and

1393
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 4: decided to come back. When you're thirty at this in

1394
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: this business, even if you're able to play, and you

1395
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: decided to walk away like he did. Good for him.

1396
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty for him playing interior alignment and the not

1397
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: being through any physical contact or ramping up to try

1398
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: to play, and that wouldn't happen at all. I just

1399
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: don't see that happening. Yeah.

1400
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: Again, it's a ton of money they walk away from. Yeah,

1401
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 4: they're gonna be a fun team. The Rams, there's certainly

1402
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: gonna be fun. They trafted a couple of guys on defense.

1403
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, Harbor. Listen one thing about Jim Harball, he

1404
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 4: wins everywhere he's been, whether it's you versus c Diego, Stanford,

1405
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: the Niners, we forget. They did make the Super Bowl,

1406
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: tough loss to the Ravens. They're gonna get things turned around.

1407
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 4: And I like their new complex in El Segundo. The

1408
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 4: Bolt kind of an odd area. I was driving by

1409
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: there because it's near Lax certainly a little different. But

1410
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: they finally have their own place.

1411
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: Well, when you head back to elsagin To, just let

1412
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: us know, we'll meet you for lunch right down the street.

1413
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: Carry and I, Well, we'll find you and we'll take you.

1414
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: To one of the local hats.

1415
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hey, standing off for whenever you're back in La.

1416
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: Last one for this round of things, Adam, we got

1417
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: ten days until we get to that preseason.

1418
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: Let's just go am west.

1419
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: In general, it seemed like last year was the opportunity,

1420
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: with the clunkiness of that Chiefs offense, if you were

1421
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: going to get them, it was last year. Can you

1422
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,479
Speaker 2: see anybody even making a claim barring fifteen going down?

1423
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm surprised, but you know it's interesting. I don't

1424
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: have in a front and I think the Chargers were

1425
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 4: only plus three hundred two win the division, which I

1426
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 4: thought was absurd. I know this, let's put this with

1427
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: the Raiders won't be a playoff team. But I spent

1428
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: old friend Antonio Pears with him about two and a

1429
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: half weeks ago. I was stunned. First of all, they

1430
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: hit Carrie. I don't know if you know, they actually

1431
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 4: hit for forty minutes and they actually.

1432
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: Tackled there you go talk callused up, let's go.

1433
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: I mean I could tell he and I worked together

1434
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: at ESPN and I talked about the owner wing for

1435
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 4: a while. Their defensive line has a chance to be really,

1436
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: really good. I have real problems with their secondary. Their

1437
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: offensive lines got some injuries, which I'm concerned about. You know,

1438
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 4: they're going to run the ball with Pierce being the

1439
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 4: head coach. But Pierce did say to me, he goes, look,

1440
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: people want to pitcheonhole me like that. Yes, look, we

1441
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: want to be physical, but there's also talent around them.

1442
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 4: They could be somewhere around eight wins, and by the way,

1443
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: they were eight and nine last year. But yeah, yeah,

1444
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are going to win that division. There's it's

1445
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 4: there's no way they're not going to win it. The

1446
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 4: question is ken someone if some kind of come out

1447
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 4: of nowhere and shock the world there like the Chargers. No,

1448
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 4: I just don't see it. I don't see it in

1449
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: harbaugh first year. But watch Xavier Worthy, the Chiefs first

1450
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 4: round receiver at the University of Texas, who could flat out.

1451
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: Fly Scary stuff right there. Plus three ninety the latest

1452
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: odds for the Chargers. Yeah, there go the Raiders sitting

1453
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: at eleven to one Broncos all the way. If you

1454
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 2: like a value play. Adam twenty two to one for

1455
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: Showing and Company. Follow him on Twitter at Kaplan NFL.

1456
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: Adam always good to talk to you. Thanks for stopping

1457
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: by this afternoon. Thank you all right, appreciate it. Carry roads.

1458
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: Mike Carman here, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday. Now

1459
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: it's hard to turn our attention over to the news

1460
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 2: desk for our guy, Martin Weiss, who's got everything trending

1461
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 2: in our sporting universe.

1462
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 3: I sure do.

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 7: Three to oh eight left in the third quarter of

1464
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 7: the second and last preseason game, guys, it is quickly

1465
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 7: approaching the Denver Broncos seventeen Arizona Cardinals with six Zach

1466
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 7: Wilson getting the law the most of the work here

1467
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 7: for the Broncos. Thirteen for nineteen, one hundred and fifty

1468
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 7: nine yards passing and a touchdown, adding twenty one yards rushing.

1469
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 7: Desmond Ritter now in the game for the Cardinals, five

1470
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 7: for seven, forty nine yards passing, and again they only

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 7: have six points with three minutes lefts in the third quarter.

1472
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 7: Earlier today, the Titans and the Saints played their third

1473
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 7: preseason game the Titans now thirty Saints twenty seven. Will

1474
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 7: Levis got to start eight for seven. I've said that

1475
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 7: three times now. I was reading it dyslexically. I don't

1476
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 7: know how you go eight for seven, How you do it?

1477
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 7: How you do it?

1478
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: Baby? Will Levis could figure it out, But.

1479
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 2: Eight seven you your own way of broadcasting the news.

1480
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: I just you'd be a trailblazer.

1481
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what is just legitimately like, I've read

1482
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: that now wrong. I'm looking at it.

1483
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 7: Right, you haint, Will Levis, it's just seven for eight,

1484
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 7: seven for eight, Martin, seven for eight, that's it?

1485
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: Or eight for seven.

1486
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 7: No, no, it's just seven for I was just wrong.

1487
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 7: But I also don't know what Will Loves was even

1488
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 7: doing out there. That's a week one start.

1489
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: That's a much bigger question that we've been asking this

1490
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: entire show. You know, you can always do the take

1491
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: a lap for yourself. I don't know what your self

1492
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 2: penalty will be.

1493
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: I'll have to bust out five push ups after this

1494
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: is open. Five listen, no, no, no, no, ten.

1495
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: Hey, the road to swoll begins with that first step, Okay,

1496
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Speaker 2: so he gets five and then he can build from there.

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 7: This guy's over here singing opera and then going and

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 7: climbing mountains inside.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it happen before, and he's gonna come for me.

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Speaker 7: I'm only one of us here was a former professional

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 7: athlete carry and it was not me. Specier Ratler played

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 7: well seven for thirteen, one hundred and five yards one touchdown.

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01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 3: Let's move over to baseball. The Al Central Race.

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 7: The Guardians gained half a game on the Royals and

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 7: the Twins as they beat the Rangers four to two.

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 7: The Phillies beat the Royals eleven of three, Cardinals beat

1507
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 7: the Twins three to two, and just some housekeeping, you know,

1508
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 7: at the bottom of the Al Central, the doldrums, the basement. Yeah, historic,

1509
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 7: historically bad.

1510
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: If you're gonna fail, fail spectacularly in life, mark wise,

1511
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: you know this well, you reach for the stars, you

1512
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: try to do all that. Somewhere in between, you're gonna

1513
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: find something good.

1514
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: That is what the White Sox are looking for.

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01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 7: They did not find it today as the Tigers beat

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 7: them nine to four, thirty one and one hundred on

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 7: the season.

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just leave every time you say that, I

1519
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: just I just shake my head.

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you're just another ninety loss team.

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 3: Who cares?

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: Right, you finish the season at ninety two losses? You

1523
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: finished sixty four. You know in ninety eight you didn't

1524
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: get to the triple digit. You're just another bad team here.

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: Historic here, we're talking history, historic, right. If you're gonna

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: be bad, just burn it all down. I mean we've

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: had earlier today, we talked about it.

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 7: Pretty sure that White Socks have lost more home games

1529
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 7: this season than carry lost NFL games in general.

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely college.

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: Games, Oh for sure, definitely look at that. And he

1532
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 3: goes back to show. Yes, Louisville. Look how he puffed

1533
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: up there. You remember the last time you did that,

1534
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: you were holding your shoulder. No, exactly, he just did too.

1535
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: I heard that one coming up. You better be ready.

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: You got checked up at Mark Weiss. Where you find

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 2: him in the Twitter verse at Carrie twenty five Roads.

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Speaker 2: should be. As we continue, one of the stories of

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 2: the week, and normally I like to let those go

1555
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: away right there are days in the rear view, but

1556
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: this is one that's gonna live with us, and it's

1557
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: the ongoing saga.

1558
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 3: The tale.

1559
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: Whatever the troubadour behind him of Dion Sanders persecuted or

1560
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: just an icon that gets attention in a sea of mediocrity.

1561
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next here in on Fox.

1562
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 3: Look at this.

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: Now, I just want to listen to music. Hey, as

1564
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: opposed to the sound of my own voice, Carrie twenty

1565
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: five Roads artist musician singer in overalls like Vince Wilfork

1566
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: on the top of the mountain. You want to see

1567
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: me throw the football all over that mountain. Yes, and

1568
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: the man that would hawk you down and separate you

1569
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: from said football along the way.

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: There you go, buddy, Yeah, man, I love it.

1571
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: We'll make sure to share all the audio and the

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: video components to this. You can find it at Carrying

1573
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: twenty five Roads in the Twitter verse. Here every Sunday

1574
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: for those asking, I'm keeping the seat warm for Dan.

1575
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: I've gotten a couple of tweets and a couple of texts. Oh,

1576
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: folks missing Dan Byer. I don't know if that's reflective

1577
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: of the job I've done thus far or just people

1578
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: trying to get their calendars together. But appreciate y'all at

1579
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: Dan Byron Fox. I'm sure he'd love to hear from

1580
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 2: you as well. But no, this week Carrie and I reunited.

1581
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: Feels so good for these couple hours with our team here.

1582
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: We got Mary Mack, we got Bo Benz and our

1583
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: executive producer and Martin Weiss over at the news desk

1584
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: making it sound so pretty as we take you into

1585
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: your Sunday evening. I know school's back in session, so

1586
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: maybe the last throws of homework that didn't get done

1587
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend or maybe a family dinner.

1588
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: Whatever you're doing however you're getting along on your Sunday,

1589
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: we appreciate you stopping by being part of our extended family.

1590
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: We know you have a lot of entertainment and information options,

1591
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: so stopping by and hanging out with Carrie and I

1592
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: and the team it does the heart good and we

1593
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: certainly don't take it for granted, so we appreciate you.

1594
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: Four hundred plus affiliates nationwide. Always you can take us

1595
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 2: with you as you go and evangelize family friends. We're

1596
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: always always room on this boat. For more at the

1597
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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Download it with all the podcasts, music stations,

1598
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio of course. Twenty four to seven, I

1599
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: listened to the Broadway station to go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 2: And then I start singing Master of the House, and

1602
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I'm marching around so like it

1603
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: totally changes changes the vibe really quickly depending on what

1604
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: shows up on that station.

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01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 3: You're a theater kid, huh.

1606
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, well I should have done it. Yeah I didn't.

1607
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: My older daughter was. My younger daughter has some of

1608
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: those sensibilities, but won't go down that highway. Just doing

1609
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: the soccer thing for me. Let's just say the South

1610
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: Side Chicago and in me was not exactly encouraged to

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01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: pursue those or this for that matter, Hi mom, Hi

1612
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: probably would have been would have gotten really.

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 3: Physical for you if you were in in the uh,

1614
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 3: the theater department and you went down that down, it could.

1615
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: Have been fun instead. No, no, now I just do

1616
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 2: it run around and singing in the car.

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you love it. You're a big music guy

1618
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 3: and what we do and theater guy. I've known that

1619
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: about you. I've learned that about you in the in

1620
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 3: the past couple of months and really makes my heart

1621
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: heart really warm.

1622
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: And now we got to just figure out how to

1623
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: monetize all that carry more podcasts. I think with the

1624
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: two of us yelling at each other, come now, I

1625
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: got to ask this question. Earlier this week. Deon Sanders

1626
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: back in the news again. A lot of questions Colorado

1627
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,919
Speaker 2: New Conference, what do they do the transfer portal? Changing

1628
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: out some of the coaches. We saw the offensive coordinator leave.

1629
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: He's got a head coach job, but he had been

1630
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 2: deposed as play caller despite early success for Shador Sanders

1631
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: in that offense. But now into the war of words,

1632
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: or at least it's combative. Let's put it that way,

1633
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: because Dion will always kill you with kindness. We see

1634
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: that because you have the juxtaposition of Dion with reporters

1635
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: that he's not going to acknowledge, and there's things in

1636
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: his contract to that effect of he doesn't have to which, okay, fine,

1637
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: table that for a moment. But then I see the

1638
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: speeches he gives to the incoming Colorado class about responsibility

1639
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: and making mom and dad and grandma and everybody proud

1640
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: and you know, don't make these mistakes and stay to

1641
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 2: your grind or whatever. You see some of the uplifting

1642
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: speeches he gives, you know, the dichotomy that is Dion,

1643
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: And part of it comes back to the old Spider

1644
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: Man quote, because we love it so much. Great power

1645
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,440
Speaker 2: comes great responsibility. So I see articles and the tweetstorms

1646
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: from folks of how Dion is persecuted for who he is, Like, well, no,

1647
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: he's acknowledged for who he is. That people talk about

1648
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: building his own wing in the Hall of Fame. I

1649
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: think we're just in a state in terms of content.

1650
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: You can dislike that. Folks might use a pop culture

1651
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: reference or a term that maybe you don't like to

1652
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: make their point, but in the end, it's content and

1653
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: they're talking about your program. We as a national media,

1654
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and others. For better or for worse,

1655
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of teams that get a lot

1656
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 2: of run. And normally, let's face it, if it bleeds,

1657
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: it leads. So when there's malcontendedness, reports of problems in

1658
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: a locker room, or cohesiveness, transferring out, folks telling tales

1659
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: after leaving, whatever, that's going to get our attention, not

1660
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: to mention, you're one of the greatest players we've ever

1661
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: seen and personalities. So is it that you know it's

1662
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: unfair criticism or is it just that, look, we look

1663
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: at him a bit differently, right, Kirk Farns got called

1664
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: everything in the book for what that offense has done,

1665
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: and he deserved it. But you know what I mean,

1666
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: like the same thing here to a degree because we

1667
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: saw the second half of the season.

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01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he deserves blame for what happened with

1669
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: that team record wise, yes, but also there's an authenticity

1670
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: to Deon Sanders that you're gonna love and you're gonna

1671
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 3: fall in love with how he does it because it

1672
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: is true to him, and it's true to he doesn't

1673
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: waver from that. Now, when you live that way, criticism

1674
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: comes as well, and it could be fair. It just

1675
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: depends on where it's coming from. If it's coming from

1676
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 3: a place of authenticity, from that's from the person that's

1677
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 3: making the criticism, it's fair as well. So it's a

1678
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 3: it's a weird dynamic of weird dichotomy that happens with

1679
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: the Dion phenomenon.

1680
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 2: We'll continue with this one as we go through, because

1681
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean, who decides authenticity. He's Garry Rhodes. I'm Mike

1682
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: carbon this is Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Fox Sports Radio.

1683
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in hour and three the program. Oh my,

1684
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: how it goes so fast? Carrie Rhoads with me on

1685
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Speaker 2: we got into a little bit of the the latest

1691
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: in the Dion Sander world. But I think if we could,

1692
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: we could wrap it in a big embrace for college

1693
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:35,480
Speaker 2: football and responsibility access all of those kind of conversations

1694
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: as we go through, expectations based on on past and

1695
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: where we're at in a social media age where even

1696
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: a cross look will get amplified from a coach, from

1697
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: a player, et cetera. Maybe why Dion, where's the big

1698
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: sunglasses so he gets to do his poker face? Yep,

1699
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: So when they come off, now you got the eyes

1700
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: and they're staying back at.

1701
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's it.

1702
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: Carrie's thinking about taking my head again. We saw the

1703
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: shoulder thing earlier, even though you're climbing mountains to record

1704
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: music videos at Carrie twenty five Roads on Twitter. Find

1705
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome. But just the idea that

1706
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, for Deon Sanders and for those that missed

1707
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: it earlier in the week, we bring it back here

1708
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: just to take it into the larger scope because we're

1709
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: getting ready to embark on another college football season, a

1710
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: longer college football season for twelve plus teams, because we're

1711
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: gonna have a bunch of teams down the stretch, the

1712
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,520
Speaker 2: most exciting final weeks of the campaign, fighting and jockeying

1713
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: to be one of those twelve to have their name

1714
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: called and go to the dance football style this time around,

1715
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: and all the arguments that we'll make leading up to that. Likewise,

1716
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: the NFL and the long arduous campaign to come, that

1717
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,480
Speaker 2: means a lot of tense situations reporters and coaches, assistant

1718
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: coaches and players if things go a little bit sideways,

1719
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: or if they fall apart altogether. Right, because last year

1720
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 2: toasted the town, everybody wanted to be anywhere near the

1721
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Colorado campus. We saw the recruitment, We saw the sales,

1722
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 2: ticket sales, the celebrities lining up to try to be

1723
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: somewhere within arms reach of Dion at something like all

1724
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: of that, and they became an adopted team. And we

1725
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: talked about it along the lines of it, like I

1726
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 2: have a lot of friends that suddenly that no dog

1727
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: in the fight for years might have gone to college,

1728
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 2: might not have. Colorado became their team because of Dion,

1729
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: because of their history. Maybe they were a fan of

1730
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: his NFL career. Maybe it was as simple as race,

1731
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: but it happened, right. It activated a bunch of people

1732
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: to pay attention to what they were doing and what

1733
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: they said and for the college football world for a month,

1734
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: it was a hell of a ride, right, and then

1735
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 2: the injury started and where they weren't so fortified at

1736
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 2: the O line, D line, anybody not named Sanders or Hunter.

1737
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: It started to show. I mean, let's call it what

1738
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: it was, right, You've got three stars, a couple of

1739
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: guys that are gonna be twainters and maybe more this

1740
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: year as we see this roster shakeout again. To your point,

1741
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: we don't know yet size, scale, fit whatever, new new

1742
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: conference and everything else. But as it went souf and

1743
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: criticism came. There was, you know, the reticence to acknowledge

1744
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: what they're going through at times. And we can play

1745
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: back a ton of d on audio and it's not

1746
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: to persecute him. It's the idea, at least from where

1747
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 2: I sit, is like it becomes fair questions of where

1748
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: you're at as a program. Now, I know it's you're

1749
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: taking over and you're trying to build, but you're building

1750
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 2: out a foundation and you get that kind of press.

1751
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: On the plus side, guess what those folks are going

1752
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: to be there if you stumble, and they're gonna ask

1753
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 2: questions and you may not want to answer the questions

1754
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: at that point, because you're in.

1755
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: It, right, right.

1756
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you've been on teams when it's going well, hey, everybody,

1757
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 2: come on in, come around my locker, get those microphones up,

1758
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: don't be shy, and come on in. If things are

1759
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: going bad, you don't want that second guy even creeping over,

1760
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: let alone the first guy standing at your locker when

1761
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: you get to it. And Dion strikes me, at least

1762
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: from what we've seen, you don't want that second guy coming.

1763
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: Over at this point.

1764
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's this message of positivity and always right

1765
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: with the world.

1766
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a consistency that comes with that, Right,

1767
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: there's a there's guys that are consisted consistently you know,

1768
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: I guess fair, and then there are some guys that

1769
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 3: are consistently unfair. And so I think when you get that,

1770
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, you get that moniker of being an unfair guy.

1771
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that's the situation that's happening here

1772
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: in Colorado, but when you get that, there's a baggage

1773
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: that comes with that. There's a there's a certain look

1774
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: that comes with that from the players, the head coaches

1775
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: when they see you coming in a room. So it's that,

1776
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 3: so you you kind of label yourself as such. So

1777
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 3: you talk about Colorado starting really well last year, all

1778
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: the positivity that came with that, You'll you'll find in

1779
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 3: certain locker rooms, in certain clubs, even when the positivity

1780
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 3: is rolling through, there are some sepets there, or there's

1781
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: a couple of guys that are only there to find

1782
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 3: the fissures that And so that's the thing that you

1783
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: would have to know with any of these conversations, right like,

1784
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 3: just from us assuming or hearing the story you're seeing

1785
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 3: about it here recently that you know Dion's cutting a

1786
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: few people off from interviewing, right Like, we'll just read

1787
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: that as a headline. But you have to really know

1788
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 3: the room and know who's in there and what that

1789
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: guy's about. So I can't really speak on the situation

1790
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: and its totality, but from a former player being in

1791
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 3: the locker room, you know there are certain guys beat writer.

1792
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 3: It could be a beat writer, it could be a

1793
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 3: national writer. It doesn't matter who that person is. But

1794
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 3: when they come in room, you kind of like, oh.

1795
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: My god, here cooler, right, the idea of all right,

1796
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: the negative story, what are they trying to find? Right,

1797
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 2: and look years growing up right in Chicago, the Sun

1798
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Times Tribune, I had long bus rides to high school.

1799
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 2: Guess well, we bought them both and then we trade

1800
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: as we were going. If I was on the the

1801
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: the bus and then the train with my brothers or

1802
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: friends that would come along, you know, down the line,

1803
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: like here you grow just the stranger next to me. Yeah,

1804
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: you can read that one. While I'm here. I could

1805
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: set by my my my watch, right, is it a Monday?

1806
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: All right?

1807
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: Marriotti is writing this, Bayless is writing this right, and

1808
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: of the time, I'd be right. It's either this is

1809
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: gonna be the shot against Frank Thomas, this is gonna

1810
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: be the Jerry.

1811
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: Ryder you know it going in.

1812
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's no it's no secret anybody that lived

1813
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: in the marketplace or any of the marketplaces that that

1814
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: those guys worked in on down the line, go back

1815
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: to Dallas, go read a bunch of skip columns from

1816
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 2: back then. You could set your watch to it. All right,

1817
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: it's Monday at the Cowboys loss. Guess what, really, you're

1818
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 2: gonna go after it? For the For the Chicago thing,

1819
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, here's the I don't like

1820
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: Azie Ian. Here's the I don't like Frank Thomas. Here's

1821
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: the Ryans Dwarf's bad for business. One hundred losses today. Yay, uh,

1822
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: all of those things. You could set it so you

1823
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: knew that was just part of the persona. Right. You

1824
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: have cheerleaders for the city, for the team, for whatever,

1825
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: who are probably annoying the other way because they because

1826
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: they don't see reality sometimes because you're trying to lift

1827
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 2: people up right again, like what we do here on radio,

1828
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of stories that we read, we

1829
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: vet and we go where's the win right?

1830
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1831
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: This one's more just the conversation about press and getting

1832
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 2: information to you and hopefully everybody finding where that happy

1833
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: medium is right, because Popovich and Belichick were characters, yes,

1834
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: and they recognize that Popovich still coaching. Bill's goutstually going

1835
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: to be a member of the media now, can't wait

1836
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: to see it Saban as a member of the media

1837
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: talking about how hard it is just to pick a game,

1838
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: let alone be honest about criticism and constructive or otherwise.

1839
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: How was he I didn't see him good. He was good.

1840
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: He's going to get more comfortable, I think in terms

1841
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: of all right, let's let's talk about where this went wrong,

1842
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: because he's trying to I think still feeling that part out.

1843
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: But it's like Brady, you know, he did his thing

1844
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 2: at Fanatics. We had the little Daniel Jones side swipe,

1845
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: but just in general saying, look, I but who were

1846
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: better to tell you about what's right or wrong on

1847
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: a field? And Brady as an ex player or save

1848
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: It or Belichick you know, as an ex coach. But

1849
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 2: it's it's trying to figure out where that median was.

1850
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 2: And I bring Save It up to say for him

1851
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: and Belichick, it was you got an act like you

1852
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: talk to anybody that knew these guys away from a microphone.

1853
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Life of the party. Right, let's talk about music. Let's

1854
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: talk about you know, buy and whine to anything, a

1855
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: lot of varied interest whatever, but in front of the camera,

1856
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: this is what you're gonna get and you can like

1857
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: it or not right, and Popovich will do the same act.

1858
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 2: Now he'll get more reps this year again because of

1859
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 2: when Binyama they'll be back into the rotation of national games.

1860
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 2: So people will have to decide again, do I want

1861
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: to watch the sideline interview, which is again are the

1862
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: dumbest things in sports to my thinking, coach, defense was

1863
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: a little slow. You gotta run over. Look, Yeah, we're

1864
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: gonna have to play better and we're gonna have to

1865
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: rotate better.

1866
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Thanks coach, no information, you know what I mean? Like

1867
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: what am I getting out of you?

1868
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: But it's it's just that from that relationship and that

1869
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of business arrangement that'll be curious to see because

1870
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,959
Speaker 2: Dion gets again cycled out because he is who he is, pitchman.

1871
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 3: Like his voices.

1872
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: You know his voice, so you know when he's a

1873
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: bird on a commercial. You know when he's trying to

1874
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: sell you a chicken. You know, like he shows up

1875
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: on on as himself in commercial, Like you know the guy.

1876
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 2: Even if you don't follow football, you know who Dion

1877
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 2: Sanders is. So with that it becomes elevated. We were

1878
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: just doing it as the fun exercise, you know, as

1879
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: Martin was doing his update of the number of guys

1880
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 2: that on a national scale really get any kind of run.

1881
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 2: It's a handful and one of them is in the

1882
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: press and Nick Saban that's it. So it's dwindling, which

1883
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: means more focus goes to Dion because people know who

1884
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 2: he is I can't do a huge thought piece about

1885
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,959
Speaker 2: a coach you've never heard of or never.

1886
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 3: Heard or or don't know who he is.

1887
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 2: From his history unless you're a fan of that university.

1888
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: No, but that's just it.

1889
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 2: But but that's the danger of the national versus local

1890
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: regional conference kind of thing with college football and college

1891
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: basketball that we get at times to where it does

1892
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,520
Speaker 2: go into those silos.

1893
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 3: And that's why you have to be careful with if

1894
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: you are a media person and and somebody, like I said,

1895
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 3: in those rooms as a beat writer, right, there's a

1896
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 3: big responsibility that you have to, you know, keep people

1897
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 3: abreast of what's going on at that university with that coach,

1898
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 3: with the players or whatever it is. On an intermediate

1899
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 3: level that means university locally all that stuff, but nationally

1900
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 3: when you're reporting stuff like I don't want to say delicate,

1901
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 3: but there's there's an energy of being right that needs

1902
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 3: to happen before you're putting out these big stories about

1903
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 3: somebody not allowing you to do something. Okay, why are

1904
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 3: they not allowing you to do something? Like if you're

1905
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: gonna put the story out like that, like the truth

1906
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 3: and the fullness of it has to be well.

1907
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: But there's the triple underscore of the word truth. Yeah,

1908
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: your side, my side, truth sitting in the middle here

1909
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 2: is somewhere sure, and so like it becomes a question

1910
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: of responsibility, right being the adult in the room perhaps

1911
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 2: comes in as well on either side. Right, Again, we

1912
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 2: don't know all the inner workings. But unless he's printed

1913
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff that's factually incorrect.

1914
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's well, but do we know that?

1915
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, So like, do does anybody?

1916
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: Has anybody come forward and said that that stuff?

1917
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Speaker 2: But that's the point, right, I think, And by this

1918
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 2: point this is blown up enough to where it's like

1919
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: there were a bunch of errors in it. Dion or

1920
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: someone on that step would have raised their hand and

1921
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 2: been like, hey, there's errors. Mart White's looking to tag in.

1922
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Speaker 7: I got the Colorado statement that came out from the

1923
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 7: football the football team or whatever. The PR person said

1924
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 7: that there were phrases that they channeled. They flagged some

1925
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 7: of one of them deposition Dion uh, the Bruce Lee

1926
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 7: of bs Uh.

1927
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 3: That's pretty good one for deon kool aid.

1928
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dion, let go, Yeah, Yeah, there were several different

1929
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 7: phrases that they said. I plant Dion was another one

1930
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 7: that this writer used to describe the Colorado football program

1931
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 7: and Dion's influence on it.

1932
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Speaker 3: So those were the phrases that were flagged.

1933
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 7: That's the reason why all of this started in the

1934
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,799
Speaker 7: first place. I personally thought the Bruce Lee of BS

1935
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 7: was pretty good.

1936
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: That's pretty It's a pretty clever line. Yeah, it's a

1937
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 2: pretty clever line, and I could get along.

1938
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 3: So it's a little fight, a little push back, little

1939
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 3: fight back then, is what I'm saying. So it's not

1940
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 3: there are some things that are taking If you're not

1941
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 3: really dialed in on this stuff, you can run with

1942
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 3: it and say, oh, Dean's been this, he's been a

1943
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 3: diva or whatever, right, and the university is supporting that,

1944
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: or the university is sticking up for their guy. So

1945
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 3: it's just that the fissure of where that stands is

1946
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 3: really wide. Where is the truth? And that's it.

1947
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: Thanks Martin, He's Carrie Rhoades on Mike Carmen here. Thanks

1948
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,839
Speaker 2: to whoever I had news is. I appreciate you still listening.

1949
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Tell all your friends and family to listen here at

1950
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio at Swallen' dome at me at Carrie

1951
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: twenty five Roads where you find him, find all the

1952
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: link out to his music and such. As we continue here,

1953
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio thought we'd just dive down that rabbit

1954
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,959
Speaker 2: hole a little bit longer again. Other coaches, certainly locally,

1955
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: the message boards will tell you everything you need to know.

1956
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: We talked about Iowa football and the family. Now Kirk

1957
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 2: Farrence with his suspension, but certainly the ineptitude of the offense.

1958
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: They weren't exactly kind with that, right, I mean, and

1959
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: that becomes personal attacks versus it is just bad football, right, Like,

1960
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 2: there's that line, right and where and who's deciding arbitrarily

1961
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: where that line is? And whether you, as a coaching

1962
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: staff are above said line, because are any of those

1963
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: really patently offensive? No? Right, I mean you're buying into

1964
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 2: Dion cult of Dion?

1965
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 3: Right?

1966
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Is that wrong?

1967
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 3: No?

1968
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,879
Speaker 2: I mean he's selling, But I mean he's selling a product,

1969
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 2: and if you're buying it, you could say you're believing

1970
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 2: and you're now in the cult of what he's selling. Right,

1971
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily a pejorative term. But we move on

1972
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: as we get going through here, Hey, who says.

1973
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 3: You can't go home. A couple of.

1974
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Legends got some flowers this weekend and both times I'm

1975
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 2: a little surprised. We'll do that, and we've actually got

1976
01:34:54,720 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 2: some heavy words coming from Magic Johnson. What's that all about?

1977
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: We'll tell you next year. On Fox Sports Radio, final

1978
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: throws of the preseason games wrapping up today. You can

1979
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 2: find all the replays in the NFL Network and other

1980
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,759
Speaker 2: because you know you gotta you got your appetite wedded.

1981
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 2: Now you gotta wait for live live action again until

1982
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: the next week one of college football comes up on

1983
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 2: you waiting on some of those announcements from Mike Tomlin

1984
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: about his quarterback position and so much else. As we

1985
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 2: sit here live in the tire rac dot Com studios,

1986
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Speaker 2: Mike Carmon alongside Carrie Rhodes having some fun with you, hey,

1987
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1990
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1997
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome. Now this one was brought to my attention.

1998
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: We've got two Lakers stories we'll do here. We'll push

1999
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: the going home again towards the end of the hour,

2000
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 2: because you know, we always want to talk about reconciliation

2001
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: and finding your way back positivity as we finish up

2002
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 2: here on a Sunday. Usually I do those things on

2003
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 2: a Sunday morning, so it says people are getting out

2004
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: of services. Maybe there's a Sunday afternoon service that you're

2005
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: finishing up with, or maybe you lead a little bit

2006
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 2: of positivity and an icing on the cake. We'll do

2007
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 2: that in a little bit. But two stories. First, we'll

2008
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: go on the court. The report coming from the Ringer

2009
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 2: saw it on a numerous outlets now that in the

2010
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: post Lebron James era, the Lakers are targeting your guys

2011
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: as the potential air Now to be fair, living here

2012
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles for as long as I have most

2013
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 2: anybody who's ever snipped an all star game has been

2014
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 2: photoshopped into a Lakers jersey or an alternate Lakers jersey

2015
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 2: at least once. So as a Mavericks guy, how does

2016
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:18,799
Speaker 2: this make you feel?

2017
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm not scared at all. The Lakers have flirted and

2018
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 3: tried to lure another Dallas Maverick superstar in the past

2019
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 3: and that did not materialize. In the Great Dirt Novisky

2020
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: they were, you know, Kobe reached out to him directly

2021
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 3: and to get him to come to the.

2022
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 2: Lay are on Mama Day celebrating and minds around the

2023
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 2: block to get that Kobe Bryant jersey at Dodger Stadium exactly.

2024
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 3: So that's already you know, I've I've been around, I've

2025
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 3: seen that game.

2026
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 2: Before, saying lucas that same kind of guy.

2027
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 3: Lucas a loyal guy.

2028
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: What if he were to say, get a an invite

2029
01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 2: to go ride horses, go drinking and hang out with NICOLEA.

2030
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,839
Speaker 3: Jokic, He's still loyal.

2031
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: I think, I think, why did you have to twist

2032
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 2: it make it about the Lakers?

2033
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 3: Know exactly, It's definitely that's definitely his guy. He already

2034
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 3: was on the record saying if he would love to

2035
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 3: play with Nicole club, but he would have to come

2036
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 3: to Dallas, so that was already on the record, so

2037
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that either.

2038
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, no, I gave you pause because

2039
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: once you put it out there, now it becomes a

2040
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: question of.

2041
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,520
Speaker 3: How do we make this happen? Exactly right, It's still.

2042
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's still Sunday and it's early in

2043
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 2: a non we gotta keep it PG. But there's a

2044
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: lot of things you can ask folks and be like, Okay, no, never,

2045
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do this, you know, never, never have I ever?

2046
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 3: Right?

2047
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 2: But also the value proposition. You know, if I put

2048
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 2: a plate of insert the thing that's most vile to you,

2049
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: would you eat it?

2050
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 3: No?

2051
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: But what if I gave you one thousand dollars? Maybe

2052
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 2: you pause? What if I say five thousand and you

2053
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 2: start doing a well, it's like all right, now we

2054
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: know there's there's a price. Yes, yeah, same thing here.

2055
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 2: They want to team up. Yeah that if the circumstances.

2056
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: It's like Steph Curry, right, lifetime Warrior?

2057
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or is he didn't?

2058
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Didn't the Mavericks just like make Luca the highest paid

2059
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:20,799
Speaker 2: player in basketball?

2060
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 3: Am I?

2061
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? But that changes every five minutes.

2062
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 3: Like I'm saying, it wouldn't be a money issue. It's like,

2063
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 3: it's buddy, that's buddy.

2064
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: That's like it's still like it's not a one year

2065
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: contract that he signed. It's a four or five year deal, right, so.

2066
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: He's gonna be and he's twenty five. What are we

2067
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 3: doing here?

2068
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: But that's I'm advancing the narrative. I don't even know

2069
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 2: how this story started, but it's well. But it's like anything,

2070
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 2: it's all it takes is one quasi credible source in

2071
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 2: this case, somewhat at the ringer putting it out and

2072
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: it gets picked up as a discussion point. No, thirteen

2073
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 2: years out, ninety percent of the stuff we talk about here,

2074
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't come to wish. It's all theorizing about circumstances,

2075
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 2: these situations. We should start a rumor saying that the

2076
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 2: Lakers are targeting like Patrick Mahomes.

2077
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 3: Behind the past.

2078
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, complay point guard when he's done with football, Like

2079
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 2: that would be fun. That's actually a perfect segment to

2080
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 2: another story that came up earlier this week. Anthony Edwards

2081
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: was making the rounds and talking about you know, the

2082
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 2: old plumber line kind of comes up in so many words,

2083
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: saying Michael Jordan was the only player of skills in

2084
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 2: the eighties.

2085
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 3: It's it's misinformed. It's misinformed.

2086
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 2: It's the old People are entitled to their opinion, however

2087
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 2: naive or ill informed. Yes they may be.

2088
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you can say whatever you want, but there's

2089
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 3: so many skilled players. I mean, that was more of

2090
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 3: the game at that time, nobody.

2091
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: It always comes back to this. You can have your opinion, sure,

2092
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: and then I can tell you you're wrong. You can

2093
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: tell me that. You know, hey, freedom of speech, but

2094
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm perfect within my rights to say A, you're wrong, yeah,

2095
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,480
Speaker 2: and B you're not free of responsibility.

2096
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 3: It's perfectly fine to be like, speak your mind, you should,

2097
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: but there's too many people out here speaking their mind

2098
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 3: that are misinformed. And that's that's the that's where I

2099
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:17,799
Speaker 3: draw the line with it for myself.

2100
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Now, remember Anthony Edwards started a little bit of a

2101
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 2: fire ahead of Team usays run to a gold medal

2102
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 2: by saying he was the number one option. Yeah, which

2103
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure the veterans on that roster kind of chuckle, right.

2104
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, he were inseparable. He was like his little buddy,

2105
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever. He wanted to do, and you start theorizing,

2106
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 2: is that a better team up to go down the

2107
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 2: road with Bo teaming up Kevin Durant. I'm Anthony Edward.

2108
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 2: I think it's more realistic given that Kevin Durant loves

2109
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 2: to go wherever the wind takes him. But good move around. Yeah,

2110
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 2: Like I guys just don't know what they don't know yet. Yeah,

2111
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 2: I just, I just I saw that story yesterday and

2112
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 2: I just was like, why are why would anybody give

2113
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: this any oxygen? The idea Luka Doncic who just signed

2114
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: a new contract. There's no chance he's gonna move anytime soon.

2115
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but it's it's nice fodder the NBA.

2116
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: We know how this works many players anymore, Right, it's

2117
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 2: the what's the best situation tomorrow? And if my mind changes.

2118
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't like Mark Cuban uh and and who has

2119
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 2: taken his place? Right, I don't like the situation in Dallas,

2120
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: So I like Mark Cuban. He's not the owner anymore.

2121
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 2: So now I'm upset or that they don't have a

2122
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: comfortable enough seat, or I don't like Texas anymore, like

2123
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 2: anybody's whims and are fed in the NBA. I mean, look,

2124
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 2: the NFL guys are trying to push the envelope as

2125
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 2: best they can. They're meeting with more resistance, but it's

2126
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 2: still the same idea. Yeah, the story, the stories, whatever.

2127
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 3: But then as a writer, there's a responsibility, like you're

2128
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 3: building these pipe dreams that aren't realistic, and then you

2129
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Speaker 3: as a fan of that team, like the fan of

2130
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 3: the Miers.

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01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: I get, yeah, I guess that's my my thing. What

2132
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 2: you said it like, it's exhausting to once again, I don't.

2133
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,839
Speaker 2: I've not heard a single Lakers fan or person adjacent

2134
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 2: to the Lakers be like, yeah, Luka, Doncic is a

2135
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 2: realistic target. But then you get this story out there,

2136
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, every other fan base

2137
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: is like, man, see Lakers fans, they.

2138
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 3: Think they can get everybody exactly.

2139
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 2: The only person that does that is Rob Ge and

2140
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 2: he's facetious much at the time, well, having fun with

2141
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 2: it as it goes. But it's it's just the idea

2142
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: of an evolving NBA world where we've seen guys decide

2143
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 2: you know what I'm done. Yeah, And one of the

2144
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 2: things I'll always respect James Harden for and I know

2145
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 2: he was castigated for it was what he said he

2146
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 2: was done in Houston. He didn't he didn't dance around it,

2147
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 2: just said I'm done.

2148
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be here.

2149
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 2: But a guy who takes the Anthony Edwards Michael Jordan

2150
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 2: line pretty seriously, the guy very decorated, goes back to

2151
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers point guard position. In a conversation with Steve

2152
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: and A Smith, Magic Johnson replied to the young fella.

2153
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 10: Edwards just said the other day that there really wasn't

2154
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 10: any skilled players in the NBA back in the day

2155
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 10: alisade of Michael Jordan.

2156
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: That's what he's saying.

2157
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:25,919
Speaker 10: Your response to that, you know, I don't never respond

2158
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 10: to a guy that's never won a championship.

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01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 3: There's not nothing to really say. He didn't win a

2160
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 3: college championship. I don't know if you even want a

2161
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 3: high schools hit him with a double negative. So you

2162
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: know he was waiting bill On Yeah, not not nothing

2163
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 3: crowd there.

2164
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Uh In really loved Magic flexing because generally we we

2165
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 2: respond to many of these things from the Magic Johnson

2166
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: Twitter game that Smith and I have been doing for years,

2167
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 2: because it's generally box score reading or pretty innocuous comments.

2168
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 2: But to be sitting on that stage. It's good to

2169
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 2: see he's back from his vacation.

2170
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Speaker 3: Where did he go?

2171
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 2: They're on a super yacht every summer. Yeah, I don't

2172
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 2: know those things. I aspire to travel in those circles.

2173
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 2: But comes back and just says, well, hold on, I've

2174
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: got some things to say, and immediately if you if

2175
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,520
Speaker 2: you see any writeups of this goes down Magic Johnson's

2176
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: CV and everything that he's won along the way, which

2177
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: is great. But again it goes owing to the earlier

2178
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 2: conversation of you know, you got to have a little

2179
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,799
Speaker 2: bit of sense of history. Yes, and certainly for our business,

2180
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: there's folks that you know, history goes back to maybe

2181
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Lebron's starting playing basketball, maybe a little bit later, you know,

2182
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. And it's not that you

2183
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 2: need to know every name, date and place from fifty

2184
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: years ago, but recognizing an entire era of basketball and

2185
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: funneling it down to one guy, just because he was

2186
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: the focal point marketing and media.

2187
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 3: Right, it's the only one he probably knows well.

2188
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 11: His exact comment. I have the exact comment, Hi, Mary, Hi, Hi.

2189
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 11: I decided I'll read the exact comment that he said

2190
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 11: that kind of led it. He said, I didn't watch

2191
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 11: it back in the day, so I can't speak on it,

2192
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 11: and then proceeds to go they say it was tougher

2193
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 11: back in the day than it is now, But I

2194
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 11: don't think anybody has skill. Back then, Michael Jordan was

2195
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 11: the only one that really has skill, you know what

2196
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 11: I mean. So that's why when they saw Kobe they

2197
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 11: were like, oh my god.

2198
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 3: But now everyone has skill, and that's that would have

2199
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 3: been perfectly fine if he left out the Jordan part,

2200
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 3: because he would have been true to not knowing the game, right,

2201
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 3: like not knowing that era. But then you just throw

2202
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 3: out the guy that everybody talks about, then it's of

2203
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 3: course the other guy's going to feel slighter because they

2204
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: are talented and other guys won during that time too,

2205
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 3: so it's it's just it's not a not a good look. No.

2206
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right.

2207
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: You can't say I didn't watch yes, and then name

2208
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 2: check Mike Jordan, like you've dismissed everything. Yes, so your

2209
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 2: opinion on everything else is invalid my.

2210
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 3: Point, So why do you even say it?

2211
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 2: Because you want to fill airtime, because you want to

2212
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 2: get your name and certainly Anthony Edwards. Look, he got

2213
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 2: compared to Jordan a lot, so I guess that becomes

2214
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 2: the obvious leap that you make in terms of where

2215
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 2: his mindset would be sure in that, you know, because

2216
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 2: during that playoff rod, Let's face it, how many side

2217
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: by sides did you see subtly injected into the coverage?

2218
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 2: It became all about Michael Jordan. Now players he's with.

2219
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 2: Now it's going to be lebron it goobia. We even

2220
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 2: see this reflected in a lot of the from the

2221
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: media standpoint, and what numbers are I mean, you've got

2222
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: guys affiliated with the the larger Fox properties actually funding

2223
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 2: things to decredit guys from back in the day, particularly

2224
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan for what they did. Right, let's go take

2225
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 2: away some stats. Okay, but you prop up who you're

2226
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 2: gonna prop up, and it's been the way it's always been.

2227
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 2: Back in the day, you didn't have access the same way,

2228
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 2: and you had to be nicer lest they pull your credentials.

2229
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 3: Do you gotta thought holding these people accountable for some

2230
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 3: of these outlands takes that they have, But what are

2231
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 3: you gonna do to it?

2232
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, he just kind of went up Okay,

2233
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 2: I just want to see him play basketball, right right,

2234
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 2: say what you're gonna say. But for the purposes of

2235
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 2: what we do here at Fox Sports Radio, it makes

2236
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: for fun fodder that you because Anthony Edwards is probably

2237
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 2: not speaking just for Anthony Edwards. Is really the larger

2238
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 2: point to be made out of this is that you

2239
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: probably do have a sub section of NBA players NFL

2240
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 2: players that don't know anything beyond the guys that they

2241
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: if played with or watched. I mean you were in

2242
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 2: locker rooms, yeah, I mean you probably had legends come

2243
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 2: walking through. It's like, I have no idea who this

2244
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 2: guy is.

2245
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 3: She's his pictures right behind you. Yes, that would be

2246
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:05,520
Speaker 3: the thing though, right, Like that would be an accurate statement,

2247
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 3: But I would then do my research on that. So

2248
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 3: like if I said something like that, I would come

2249
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 3: out in the next press conference or next time I

2250
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 3: had a chance to speak and say, you know what,

2251
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 3: there was a couple couple other guys that were really skilled,

2252
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 3: and like it's there's there's no accountability for what people

2253
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 3: say now, And I think that's part of why I

2254
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 3: don't think it's cute anymore, with the way that people

2255
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 3: are like disrespecting people that played prior or the legends

2256
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 3: that played before. So I'm a little sensitive when it

2257
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 3: comes to that.

2258
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's certainly some sports do it better

2259
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 2: than others to make sure you know the history. Like

2260
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 2: one of the things that was on the larger radar

2261
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 2: here is, you know, you get a couple of guys

2262
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 2: that come back for Old Timers Day. You know, Barry

2263
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 2: Bonds gets retired by the Pirates. Did you think that

2264
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 2: was gonna happen anytimes?

2265
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 4: No?

2266
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2267
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: Right. I saw another clip Pete Rose again talking about

2268
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 2: how you know he can come and wave his little

2269
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 2: cap when there's a Bobblehead Day or whatever, but he

2270
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 2: can't go into the batting cages still because of the

2271
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 2: band to go work with a hitter. That bridge still

2272
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: hasn't been mended. Alex Rodriguez showing up at Old Timers

2273
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Day at Yankee State. Did anybody to see that coming?

2274
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right.

2275
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 2: So, like you have these kind of bridges, but it

2276
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 2: also lends credence and supports the history like Baseball always

2277
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: did it really well right old Timers Days, the big

2278
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 2: tributes and celebrations. NFL has gotten.

2279
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 3: Better, get better with the legends program.

2280
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 2: Better with the Legends program, but still a wide chasm

2281
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 2: between guy's sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and even the nineties

2282
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 2: to a degree and the NBA itit's a pieces and

2283
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards kind of shows right there. All right, maybe

2284
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 2: there's there's still a disconnect in terms of bringing everybody

2285
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 2: along to what the game was and assessing what constitutes

2286
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 2: skill in.

2287
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 3: That part too, Right.

2288
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you're talk about athleticism, we could talk

2289
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: about different parts of the game that might might have grown.

2290
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: When we talk about training, recovery, scheduling, All of these

2291
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: things factor in to where we're at. Like guys that

2292
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 2: weren't weight trending, I mean famously even Jordan like didn't

2293
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: lift weights early on until he had or until like

2294
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 2: it became more accepted, and hey, you can do this,

2295
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 2: and it's not going to change change you materially to

2296
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,480
Speaker 2: where you can't do this that together.

2297
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 3: You're not You're still being able to shoot the ball

2298
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 3: that was the big thing.

2299
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Well and lift right, and all of a sudden you're

2300
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 2: putting out a bunch of muscle. How much different if

2301
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: you're up another fifteen pounds the weight you know, for

2302
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: your speed you're jumping ability, et cetera. Sure, which is

2303
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 2: what your trademark was. Hence Anthony Edwards jumping into that.

2304
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 3: MM.

2305
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 2: Here you go, he's carry roads out by carbon Here

2306
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, let's turn it over to Martin. Why

2307
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: is getting update on what's trending in our sporting universe.

2308
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 7: The second to last preseason game is in the book.

2309
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 7: The Broncos beat the Cardinals thirty eight to twelve. Sorry

2310
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 7: about that carry didn't count for what is worth? I'm

2311
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:10,799
Speaker 7: certainly fine.

2312
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 3: Trust me, I got you.

2313
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 7: Zach Wilson, the quarterback, getting most of the work in

2314
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 7: this game. He was sixteen for twenty five two hundred

2315
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 7: and fifty one yards, two touchdowns, added twenty two rushing

2316
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 7: yards as well and a touchdown on the ground. Clayton

2317
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 7: Tune got to start, had a pick six twelve for

2318
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 7: eighteen one hundred and nineteen yards.

2319
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter remember him. He started for the Falcons last year.

2320
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 7: He was ten for sixteen in mop up duty in

2321
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 7: the third preseason game.

2322
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 3: Shows you where he is now.

2323
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 7: Tennessee Titans beat the Saints earlier today, thirty thirty to

2324
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 7: twenty seven. Will Levis got to start eight for seven

2325
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 7: one hundred and eighteen yards passing. Spencer Rattler looked better

2326
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 7: than Jake Haynter as they were playing musical chairs at quarterback.

2327
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 7: Spencer Rattler with seven for thirteen one hundred and five

2328
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 7: yards and a touchdown Jake Haner eight for seventeen eighty

2329
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 7: seven yards. In Major League Baseball, the tightest race right now.

2330
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 7: The Al Central Guardians beat the Rangers four to two, which.

2331
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 3: Added a half game to their lead.

2332
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 7: In the division right now, as the Royals and the

2333
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 7: Twins both lost, Royals losing to the Phillies eleven to

2334
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 7: three and the Cardinals got the best of Minnesota three

2335
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 7: to two. Elsewhere around Major League Baseball, the Mets drop

2336
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 7: on to the Padres. The Mets that leave most of

2337
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 7: that game on Jason Smith somewhere is sick because that

2338
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 7: was a one nothing game for a lot of it,

2339
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 7: then two to one, and then all of a sudden

2340
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 7: when it mattered in the bottom of the ninth inning,

2341
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:30,560
Speaker 7: ended up being Padres three to two. Tigers beat the

2342
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 7: White Sox nine to four. White Sox one hundred losses

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Speaker 7: on the year so far. Sorry, Mike, Yeah, that's all right.

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Speaker 3: What's one more? For what it's worth.

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Speaker 7: The Marlins beat the Cubs too, So I don't know

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Speaker 7: if there's misery misery loves company or yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look what it's all said and done. You

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01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 2: know you root for the White Sox and anybody that

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Speaker 2: plays the Cubs.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 7: Marlin's Marlin's taking care of the Cubs today seven to two.

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Speaker 3: Let's see.

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01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 7: Also Al East leading Yankees. They beat the Rockies ten

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01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 7: to three. Astro's going right now, and I'm sorry, Orioles

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01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 7: and Astros going right now. We'll see if the Orioles

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01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 7: can't keep pace atop the AL East. Right now, it's

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01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 7: top of the third score is zero to zero. Jamar

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01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 7: Chase did practice today in Cincinnati. That's his first practice

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01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 7: of training camp as he is in search of a

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01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 7: new deal. And the Miami Dolphins released quarterback Mike White.

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Speaker 7: Skyler Thompson, former seventh round pick out of Kansas State,

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Speaker 7: the number two guy behind to a tongue of by

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Speaker 7: LOA wow, back to you Guys's.

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Speaker 2: A guy we spent a lot of time on, you know,

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01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 2: the whole Jets thing with Mike White.

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Speaker 3: He had a minute, Mike, He's pretty pretty talented. I

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01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 3: want to I want to we should see this is

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01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 3: how I work. I have like two names of I

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01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 3: should really make a top five of this.

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Speaker 7: But guys who got like the most unearned nicknames, Like

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01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 7: no disrespect to Mike White, but there were people going

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01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 7: around calling him Mike f and White for a long time.

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01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 3: Remember, like like a very long time.

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01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: The lesson, but sure for the purpose of this, yeah, yeah,

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: it's really it can be back.

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01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 7: You had big nick energy with Nick Foles for a while.

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01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah win super Bowl? Yeah, the super Bowl. Yeah,

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 3: I know he gets he gets to trade win a

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01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 3: couple of ways. Dude, No, but that's.

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 2: Just it, like it.

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01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 3: I was like from all reports, Yeah, Tommy DeVito saw

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01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 3: forget about exactly.

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 2: Like those people keep wondering if he's going to be

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01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback for more long.

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01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 7: But these fifteen minute quarterbacks you get their fifteen minutes

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01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 7: in the sun. Which I want to come up with

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 7: a list of the best nicknames of all of them.

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 3: Let me know that.

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01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, And Martin Weiss, if you've got

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01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: thoughts for guys that you were giving nicknames, keep it clean.

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 3: People kids are reading those out there.

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01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 3: I was great. I was excited about the rundown. What

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 3: he just said about my Yankees. Did you see the game? Uh,

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01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 3: they went that Soto, Judge and Stanton went back to

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01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 3: back to back and the I think of the seventh inning.

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01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and they'll get open and whenever those

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01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 2: two yes, they together. Meanwhile, my team lost one hundredth

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Speaker 2: can he's carrying, Mike. It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up going back into the NFL next

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Speaker 2: year on Fox. Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So as we close things up here, Carrie, we've traveled

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Speaker 2: many a weary mile in these three hours of discussion

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Speaker 2: NFL preseason now ending, and we talk about guys making

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Speaker 2: their careers, getting that shot, getting that opportunity. Certainly a

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Speaker 2: lot to be said. So when people are dismissive of

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Speaker 2: preseason action, I'm critical of it because we know many

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Speaker 2: many a player that we've watched go from undrafted late

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Speaker 2: draft pick to become stars in this league. Again going

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Speaker 2: owing to fit ye and where you find a coach,

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Speaker 2: a coordinator or a position coach, sometimes that just sees

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Speaker 2: you've got that little extra thing, either between the years

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Speaker 2: or physically right. And so as these final ten ten

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Speaker 2: days for the season begins, like how do you manage

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Speaker 2: these ten days?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. I mean a lot of these guys,

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01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 3: I mean you know, they're really their chances of making

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01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 3: the team is very slam and so you still, as

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01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 3: a family, you still build these relationships and bonds with

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01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 3: these guys and you want them to have success. And

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01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 3: again we know this, they're not just playing for that job.

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01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 3: There's thirty one other teams that they're trying other leagues.

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01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 3: That right, But yeah, but yeah, it's tough. It's a

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01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 3: tough time, man. I mean, even as a veteran, a

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01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 3: guy that's you know, your position is whatever, you don't

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01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 3: want to see these guys not get a chance to

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01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 3: show what they can do. So it's tough.

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01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 2: Was there there ever a guy in the final cut

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01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: that it just.

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01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 3: Hits you just wrong?

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01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean that where you get separate maybe a little bit,

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01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 2: you know personally, maybe you got got to know them

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01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 2: a bit, and when when they got cut it hit

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01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 2: you don't but just s I see your face. So yeah,

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01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 2: it was like five or six guys faces I think

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Speaker 2: just hit it did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I would have to really sit down

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01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 3: and think about that one. That's a great question, but

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01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 3: that is real. There is an affinity that you have

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01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 3: for certain guys and you see their situation. They come

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01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 3: from a small school and they're fighting, and you can

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01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 3: see how the talent is there to make a roster.

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01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 3: It may not be this one, right, and you want

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Speaker 3: that relationship to last. So the relationships are always big.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's the difficult part in watching it go

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01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 2: away right because people dismiss it, Oh, that guy's going

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01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 2: to be a future this, that the other still playing

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 2: in that moment right and show them that respect because

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01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 2: certainly for me, I mean that was gone, that dream

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01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: died a long long time ago. As we traverse the

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Speaker 2: halls of Fox Sports Radio at Carry twenty five Roads,

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Speaker 2: thanks for having me in. Dan will be back next week.

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Speaker 2: You can shout him out at Dan Byron Fox. Find

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Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome. I'll be back yelling at

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Speaker 2: Jason Smith tomorrow night. Have a great rest of your Sunday.