Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Meungler and ar Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, what is up, suck Army. We're all back
Speaker 1: with a brand new episode of Help I Suck At Dating,
Speaker 1: a very special episode for everyone because Jared is gone
Speaker 1: and we have two very special co hosts, Tommy Dorfman
Speaker 1: and Rainy Quality. Is it quality? I'm going to mispronounce
Speaker 1: that anyways. They're from the new hit show Love in
Speaker 1: the Time of Corona. And who better to help co
Speaker 1: host this episode of Help I Suck At Dating than
Speaker 1: these two because I've only seen episode one, you guys,
Speaker 1: but I can tell there is a little bit of
Speaker 1: romantic tension between the two of you. Uh but if
Speaker 1: you guys could just take a second and introduce yourselves
Speaker 1: to our listeners, would be awesome. Everybody. I'm Tommy Dorfman. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm Ratty Quality. There we go, There we go. So
Speaker 1: so for the listeners, when you hear the voices that
Speaker 1: correspond to those names, you know he you're listening to.
Speaker 1: But Tommy, Rainy, you guys both start in this new show,
Speaker 1: Love in the Time of Corona, And I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool because we were talking about this off here
Speaker 1: a little bit. But this seems to me at least
Speaker 1: like the first show that was like conceptualized in the
Speaker 1: midst of the pandemic and is now being aired. So
Speaker 1: it's like it was it was ideated and then created
Speaker 1: and now being aired for us through the midst of
Speaker 1: this pandemic um and so it's got like a very
Speaker 1: fresh perspective for us. And there's like some weird filming
Speaker 1: tricks that you guys used for this, right, Like you
Speaker 1: didn't really have filming crews. Well, first of all, it
Speaker 1: was actually filmed in your your house, your apartment, yes,
Speaker 1: and then in yours Because you guys are are you
Speaker 1: guys quarantined together or were you quarantining for the duration
Speaker 1: of like the show was filming, we were in the
Speaker 1: same quarantine quarantine yeah, yeah, clean up. I mean ever
Speaker 1: since I guess quarantine started, we've been we had like
Speaker 1: a small group of friends, we're all hanging out, and
Speaker 1: then when this came up, we had already been quarantined
Speaker 1: together and actually stayed at Tommy's why we were shooting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've been together this full time. And that's
Speaker 1: that must have been super interesting for you guys, right,
Speaker 1: because you guys have both acted in many other things before,
Speaker 1: and this was the first one where it's like you're
Speaker 1: acting from your home essentially, right, Like that must have
Speaker 1: been pretty strange. Yeah, it was super weird. I never
Speaker 1: I don't really like strangers in my house, so it
Speaker 1: was quite a leap of faith to let UM viewers
Speaker 1: into my house. But I guess because it wasn't it's
Speaker 1: not a reality show. Um, it's scripted, and I could
Speaker 1: hide all the things I wanted to hide. Give give
Speaker 1: us an example, what did you want to hide? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, I actually don't have any sex toys. Um.
Speaker 1: Saddest is that I had to hide my dogs because
Speaker 1: they just would not have cooperated with us. So what
Speaker 1: did you with them? You just put them in another
Speaker 1: room or something, or I put they went to summer camp. Okay,
Speaker 1: they went to dogy camp. Did they come back a
Speaker 1: little bit more obedient? Yeah? They learned place. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: One trick is good enough, I think, right. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't buy it off too much. You know, Rainy,
Speaker 1: how is it for you? Because it wasn't necessarily your
Speaker 1: apartment that you were in, But I guess it was
Speaker 1: still I'm sure, a bit of a shift. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean for me it was pretty nice because well, we
Speaker 1: were shooting we only we don't We shot all four
Speaker 1: episodes in three or four days, so it was a
Speaker 1: lot heavy workload, and it was really convenient staying at
Speaker 1: Tommy's place. Yeah, there's like an extra apartment and Tommy's house,
Speaker 1: so I was staying down there and we'd run lines
Speaker 1: at night and go to sleep and wake up and
Speaker 1: make coffee there and then just work all day and
Speaker 1: kind of it was great to do scenes just in
Speaker 1: my bed. Yeah, I can't really imagine. All right, I've
Speaker 1: got a question for you guys, so and and don't
Speaker 1: spoil anything for me because I've only seen the first
Speaker 1: episode and Caitlin and I are going to binge the
Speaker 1: next three over the next couple of days. But this, uh,
Speaker 1: the shower guy, like the hot shower guy as you
Speaker 1: call them in episode one? Is he actually a neighbor
Speaker 1: or is he someone that you just knew that was
Speaker 1: hot and you wanted to have in the show. That's
Speaker 1: I think based off of There are two guys who
Speaker 1: are actually writer director duo and they live below me
Speaker 1: in Los Fields, and they shower naked outside where they
Speaker 1: rigged this hose, and I think I told Joanna about it,
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, that's a funny idea. Let's
Speaker 1: have a hot shower, hot naked shower guy. But they
Speaker 1: wouldn't let us use their yard for filming, so we
Speaker 1: they rigged a shower in my courtyard. Um, and we
Speaker 1: didn't ever really get to like meet that actor necessarily.
Speaker 1: It was just like acting from like a very big
Speaker 1: distance yea, like a random neighbor that they put into
Speaker 1: the show. No, I think he's another one of Joanna's shows,
Speaker 1: Got You, Got You. That was my main question was
Speaker 1: it could have just been some random shower guy. You're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, he's hot, Let's incorporate him into the
Speaker 1: show somehow. That would have been king. It would have been.
Speaker 1: It would have been and I wouldn't have hated it
Speaker 1: too perfectly honest. Um. So in the first episode, we
Speaker 1: see that you guys are like basically bfs, right, and
Speaker 1: you guys, as many people in the midst of this
Speaker 1: pandemic are you start talking about like, well, how are
Speaker 1: we going to meet someone? How are we gonna start
Speaker 1: dating people? And I'm glad that we saught escalate quickly
Speaker 1: enough to the point where you guys were already doing
Speaker 1: with the Skype dates and everything too, because a lot
Speaker 1: of shows would have like draged that out over a
Speaker 1: couple episodes, but we got right to it with you guys,
Speaker 1: and the skype dates were honestly pretty spot on, which
Speaker 1: is what I could, I think, what people can expect
Speaker 1: with Skype dates during all this kind of stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: But then what I found really interesting was that Rainy,
Speaker 1: your character, l right, was kind of throwing some some
Speaker 1: some sex eyes over at Oscar in the middle of
Speaker 1: the bathtub. So I'm excited to see how that whole
Speaker 1: relationship escalates a little bit, and I think that something's
Speaker 1: going to happen between the two of you. But again,
Speaker 1: don't spoil anything for me, but tell me what we
Speaker 1: might be able to expect with that difficult deciposed to
Speaker 1: not don't mean for my person, what's going to happen? Right, Okay, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're a person stuck in a house with someone
Speaker 1: else who you love deeply as a friend, there's potential,
Speaker 1: especially if that person looks like Rainy, not I mean
Speaker 1: even if they didn't look like Rainy, but especially like
Speaker 1: I mean Rainy's my most beautiful friend. Um, things might
Speaker 1: go down. I mean, let's be honest, both of you
Speaker 1: guys are hot, so I think I think you have
Speaker 1: to you have to at least be willing to admit that, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could see like, like what is does
Speaker 1: this relate to your real life? But all I guess
Speaker 1: it's the question like are you guys quarantined with a
Speaker 1: significant other or are you skype dating people? Are you
Speaker 1: in this weird romantic fling thing with your roommates? What's
Speaker 1: going on? I mean, we did not have sex, but
Speaker 1: I'm in an open marriage and I haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: have sex with anybody other than my husband this whole time.
Speaker 1: And that's been okay, that's been a bummer. And you're
Speaker 1: pretty open about that. We talked about open relationships in
Speaker 1: the past on this podcast, and I guess I'm I'm
Speaker 1: kind of curious to hear more from your perspectivebout that
Speaker 1: if you willing to share about it, because it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting thing to talk about, especially
Speaker 1: when it's um like a head or head sexual relationship.
Speaker 1: I feel like it might be a little bit more
Speaker 1: challenging for for whatever reason. But how did you and
Speaker 1: your husband have that conversation like about having an open relationship?
Speaker 1: Bestly just super young when we met, and I think
Speaker 1: we both were on the same page that you know,
Speaker 1: we definitely wanted to spend our lives together in some capacity.
Speaker 1: But like sex can be separated from the sort of
Speaker 1: emotional connection of love. And it's not to say that
Speaker 1: like we have emotionless sex with people they think it's
Speaker 1: always kind of emotional in some level. But there's definitely
Speaker 1: a distinction to be made for me at least and
Speaker 1: for him, um, between sort of you know, having a
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody else and just having like a sexual
Speaker 1: friendship with somebody else. Right, I guess there's gotta be
Speaker 1: a clear distinction. Is there like a lot of the
Speaker 1: sort of like burden off of each other to be
Speaker 1: our only to be everything for one another, So there's
Speaker 1: there's more freedom there, and we don't hold each other
Speaker 1: to such high expectations, right, Right? Is there any uh
Speaker 1: similarities between you and Oscar? Because Oscar in the show
Speaker 1: says that, uh, you know, I guess l always thought
Speaker 1: that he was only interested in men, but then she
Speaker 1: comes to find out that he might be interested in
Speaker 1: women as well, So I think I think they're trying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's some similarities there because I've had some
Speaker 1: questioning things myself. But on the other side of things,
Speaker 1: like as you'll see throughout the show, Oscar turned Oscar
Speaker 1: is not a super trusting person and just sort of
Speaker 1: a jealous person, and I'm of those things when it
Speaker 1: comes to relationships. I'm pretty like, go do whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do and like come back home to me
Speaker 1: and we're good. Yeah, Rainy, have you an open relationship? No,
Speaker 1: I am much too like jealous and possessive relationships. How, Rainy,
Speaker 1: how is dating for You've been in quarantine or do
Speaker 1: you have a partner as well? Um, I don't have
Speaker 1: a partner. There have been like some quarantine plings, I guess,
Speaker 1: but nothing nothing curious. You haven't had any superhero quizzes yet?
Speaker 1: Superhero quiz? Yeah, you have a superhero. The guy's like
Speaker 1: trying to proposition you need to take a superhero quiz
Speaker 1: in the first episode. No, Um, I haven't kind of
Speaker 1: funny that you guys are on uh separate sides of
Speaker 1: the spectrum in a sense, I don't know which one
Speaker 1: is better. Work So I have my girlfriend Kalin, and
Speaker 1: we've been obviously quarantined since back in February, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things where it's like you
Speaker 1: spend so much time in such a confined space with
Speaker 1: the other person that you almost kind of wish you
Speaker 1: could just like have more alone time or like get
Speaker 1: away from them for a little bit, you know, in
Speaker 1: certain sense. But also if you're like alone during these times,
Speaker 1: it might be one of those cases we're like I
Speaker 1: just need some social interaction, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the grass is always greener.
Speaker 1: I feel like, for sure I finally left you finally,
Speaker 1: Like just what went for a walk or what? No,
Speaker 1: I'm in Montana? Oh yeah, I like I went far
Speaker 1: just just to get away for a little bit or
Speaker 1: what was the reason? Yeah, I just needed a break
Speaker 1: from the house. And also I think from my husband,
Speaker 1: like I love him. That's a long time sweet peet,
Speaker 1: and sweet Pep needs a break from me. I'm so annoying.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, that's so funny that you say
Speaker 1: that we're my girlfriend and I are about to take
Speaker 1: our first big break since quarantine started, and we were
Speaker 1: like even to her I was like, dude, you should
Speaker 1: be so excited to get away from you for a
Speaker 1: little bit, and she's like sad about it. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're you definitely need a break from me because I'm
Speaker 1: annoying as hell too. Um, that's funny. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: up in Montana too. Maybe we could link up like
Speaker 1: a hike or something. Like the only place our whole
Speaker 1: group has gone during quarantine. My brother lives Montana's. I've
Speaker 1: been up a couple of times with our little group
Speaker 1: of friends too. It's so funny. I don't know live
Speaker 1: like everyone just goes to Montana very quarantineous. I feel
Speaker 1: like Montana has got to be like the best place
Speaker 1: in America to socially distance, just because there's so much
Speaker 1: like openness up there, you know, open and beautiful. Tell me,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know more about the show. So you
Speaker 1: guys we talked about a little bit at the beginning.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like your full on production in your house
Speaker 1: with you. There was like remote cameras set up right
Speaker 1: and they were controlling in the front. What was that
Speaker 1: like acting acting with that? Because I'm sure it's got
Speaker 1: to be incredible to go from like having this director
Speaker 1: producer on set with all these camera people too, then
Speaker 1: you're probably setting up the camera right and then they're
Speaker 1: controlling them from a distance. Was that weird for you
Speaker 1: guys to handle it all? Well, Tommy has a roommate
Speaker 1: that they trained to be uh pa. So fortunately, like
Speaker 1: before we started shooting, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I am how I don't know how to do a
Speaker 1: camera and it was very into medating. But luckily they
Speaker 1: taught Quinn. He was he was like moving the camera
Speaker 1: everywhere and slating. But we did have to like take
Speaker 1: on a bunch of more roles than we typically would have,
Speaker 1: just as as actors normally grown hair and makeup and
Speaker 1: costumes and put our on our own mics and um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like at the start, I was kind of
Speaker 1: apprehensive about how it was going to actually go down
Speaker 1: because I felt like there's a lot of pressure to
Speaker 1: do things that I didn't feel capable of. But after
Speaker 1: the first day, everything kind of settled in and we
Speaker 1: were actually able to get a lot more done, taking
Speaker 1: on so much more than we typically would. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: then like outside, all the different departments had separate little
Speaker 1: tents and were wearing masks and was very lots of
Speaker 1: protocol in place. Um, but yeah, yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: turned it out pretty well. It was so nice not
Speaker 1: having like a hundred people do you have to pretend
Speaker 1: aren't there while you're acting and just have two cameras
Speaker 1: and then getting directed through was so it was very liberating,
Speaker 1: and um, I kind of wish every experience could be
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I can only imagine, and I bet
Speaker 1: you too. The fact that you guys like how to
Speaker 1: do your own makeup and hearing all those things kind
Speaker 1: of added to the authenticity of being in quarantine, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, that's exactly what I was
Speaker 1: referring to. Yeah, you looked really bad and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make still the other day and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I look busted. No one told me,
Speaker 1: But that makes it more naturally, you know, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy actually just quarantined. Yeah. Um sweet, Well you guys.
Speaker 1: So typically what we do with this podcast is we
Speaker 1: have listeners email us in their questions, right, like they've
Speaker 1: got these dating questions. It's called help by Sucker Dating
Speaker 1: for a reason because we all suck a dating and
Speaker 1: we want to be able to help the people out
Speaker 1: sucker dating with us. So I was thinking it might
Speaker 1: be fun if you guys help me answer some of
Speaker 1: these questions from our listeners. Are you down for that?
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not on how to be good at dating right?
Speaker 1: And what I always tell the list there's two is
Speaker 1: to do the opposite of what we recommend for them,
Speaker 1: because you never want to follow someone's advice if they
Speaker 1: suck a dating, right. Um, So, Mark, if you're there,
Speaker 1: can you read us some emails from Anneka? Maybe? Well, sure,
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to This was actually sent in last
Speaker 1: week during the live virtual help I Suck a Dating
Speaker 1: we did. This was from Julia. She asked, what was
Speaker 1: the worst dating advice you've ever received? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'll have one of you guys handle this one first.
Speaker 1: So I'm supposed to say the opposite of what the
Speaker 1: worst dating advice like, actually give your best advice. Give
Speaker 1: your best advice. But I just want the listeners to
Speaker 1: know that everything that we say just needs to be
Speaker 1: taken with the biggest grain of salt possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So what do you think? What is your worst dating
Speaker 1: advice you guys have ever received? Play games. And by that,
Speaker 1: I mean I've had friends to be like, well, if
Speaker 1: they wait thirty minutes to text you back, wait an hour.
Speaker 1: I know that's that's so stupid, like the double the
Speaker 1: time if they take twenty minutes, take do you seem more? Like?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know the point of that.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just such a like I want to marry,
Speaker 1: let's move in together person and like either that scares
Speaker 1: you or it doesn't. No games, no game? Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good, nanny. What about you? What's the worst dating
Speaker 1: advice you've ever received? My mom has given me a
Speaker 1: bunch of weird dating advice. It's not that bad. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is what do you? What are
Speaker 1: you thinking? Like like last week she was telling my
Speaker 1: sister like, oh, make sure you wear some pretty virginal dresses,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the hell, mom, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: So I honestly got to know what is it? Do
Speaker 1: we know what it is? Like I think like pretty
Speaker 1: slow a dresses too, I don't. I don't know. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: to attract a mate, I mean, I mean I do
Speaker 1: love a good sun dress. I gotta be honest. I guess,
Speaker 1: but I would say the worst dating advice I've ever received. Again,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard when you just have to think
Speaker 1: about it on the spot. But a lot of my
Speaker 1: friends they're always like, like, let's say you just got
Speaker 1: over a breakup, And I think the worst advice friends
Speaker 1: always give each other is just like that you need
Speaker 1: to go out and like hook up with as many
Speaker 1: people as you can to get over your ex, and
Speaker 1: it just never really seems to work. It might work
Speaker 1: like short term, but I think long term you just
Speaker 1: kind of look back and you kind of feel maybe
Speaker 1: like a little icky about it. And I think that's
Speaker 1: just like very common advice, especially amongst my friend groups.
Speaker 1: So that's probably the worst advice I've ever gotten and
Speaker 1: not what I would recommend anyone else do. But let
Speaker 1: me one to the next one. Mark you got Anika here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you want to read that one for us? I
Speaker 1: was wondering what your thoughts are about wanting more independence
Speaker 1: in your relationship without hurting or offending your significant other.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like Dean in the sense that I
Speaker 1: want to do what I want when I want to
Speaker 1: do it. At the beginning of my relationship, my boyfriend
Speaker 1: and I hung out all the time. I started using
Speaker 1: Bumble for friends, and I want to start hanging out
Speaker 1: with my girlfriends more as well. Every time I want to,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm offending him, but I'm not trying to.
Speaker 1: All his relationships are of wives, so anytime we hang
Speaker 1: out with them, it's all of us together, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't get together with them as much without me. I
Speaker 1: was wondering if you have any advice on this and
Speaker 1: how I said to be more independent again without him
Speaker 1: getting hurt, or how to explain it to him nicely
Speaker 1: that I need more alone time by myself and with friends.
Speaker 1: For context, I'm twenty six, he's thirty. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're very blessed to have Tommy on for this question
Speaker 1: because I think this kind of just fits in kind
Speaker 1: of almost what we talked about earlier. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing that's on him if he's feeling sad
Speaker 1: about like you wanting independence and like he needs to
Speaker 1: figure that out on his own. In my opinion, like
Speaker 1: there's I think as long as you're honest and you
Speaker 1: communicate like hey, I need my own time, I need
Speaker 1: a loan time, that's gonna make our relationships stronger, and
Speaker 1: if he has a problem with you needing independence, then
Speaker 1: like he's not the one period, Like move on. It's
Speaker 1: just like that's so controlling. If your husband were to
Speaker 1: ever say anything along the lines of I don't want
Speaker 1: you to go to Montana, how would you what would
Speaker 1: you reaction be granted, okay, cool? Why? And if he
Speaker 1: was like, it's a lot of responsibility to have two
Speaker 1: of the dogs right now, and I'm really busy with work.
Speaker 1: I just really need you here to help, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, fun fair, right, But like if it
Speaker 1: was because I'm gonna be lonely, I'd say, maybe you
Speaker 1: need to be lonely and work some things out and
Speaker 1: I'll see you in two weeks. Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think that especially when the president
Speaker 1: is set early on, when Caitlin and I first started dating,
Speaker 1: that was one of the big things that I was
Speaker 1: made sure that she knew that what she was getting
Speaker 1: herself into. Essentially, I was like, look, I like, like
Speaker 1: go out on my own for a couple weeks at
Speaker 1: a time. It's just like one of the things that
Speaker 1: I need to do to recharge my own bat And
Speaker 1: we've lost bean. You know you guys might not know this.
Speaker 1: Dean does the show from his van, so we deal
Speaker 1: with this at a regular basis, Just so you know
Speaker 1: behind the scenes it did look vand why he steals
Speaker 1: WiFi from area hotels and coffee shops. Anyway, here's another
Speaker 1: email for you. I'm currently seeing someone who I've been
Speaker 1: with for the past two and a half years and
Speaker 1: relationship has never had any problems. However, this past year,
Speaker 1: I'm finding we have lost the spark in our relationship
Speaker 1: and feel like the love I feel is more of
Speaker 1: a friend love that a romantic love. He doesn't feel
Speaker 1: this way. I've brought it up. I'm twenty one and
Speaker 1: wondering if you have any advice. Is it wrong to
Speaker 1: break up with someone just because of that reason alone?
Speaker 1: I am scared there will not be a good guy
Speaker 1: out there to treat me this well, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to lose my best friend. Help. I would say,
Speaker 1: if you are old and you're feeling like you've lost
Speaker 1: the romantic spark in relationship, it's it's only fair to
Speaker 1: like be honest and communicate that probably you should break up.
Speaker 1: You're young and you should like explore and hopefully if
Speaker 1: you're honest with each other, you can remain friends and
Speaker 1: who knows them the line where will happen if it's
Speaker 1: like a true connection whatever. Also, like life is sure,
Speaker 1: you should have a good time, find someone like that
Speaker 1: or just trying to do the people and see like
Speaker 1: what else there is in the world. That would be
Speaker 1: my advice. Yeah, I mean, I think again, I'm very
Speaker 1: like honest communication in a relationship, being really open, and
Speaker 1: you're an adult twenty one, but you're also so so
Speaker 1: young and like I'm twenty eight now, and I think
Speaker 1: so many things have happened, so many different experiences, so
Speaker 1: you should definitely just be like, just tell them that
Speaker 1: you want to be friends, and um, he might be
Speaker 1: hurt for a little while, but if you're meant to
Speaker 1: be together in some capacity and in each other's lives,
Speaker 1: will be together in each other's lives. But you should
Speaker 1: definitely be having fun right now period. Yeah, And just
Speaker 1: because there hasn't been some traumatic thing to end the
Speaker 1: relationship doesn't mean that it wasn't run its course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that kind of leads and Mickey's email is similar
Speaker 1: and just to summarize, she got guilfted from a guy
Speaker 1: who said he genuinely wanted to be friends. He says,
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that, I really do. I'm going
Speaker 1: to call you in a week and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: And then he never called and that was in May.
Speaker 1: So what she's asking is why would he goes to me?
Speaker 1: And is that a thing? The guys ever really want
Speaker 1: to be friends when they just say in that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think if somebody who goes too, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: clear indication that they're not interested, and that can be
Speaker 1: really painful if you time is painful. But I would
Speaker 1: just say, like you, you probably why would you want
Speaker 1: to be with someone that treats you poorly? So like
Speaker 1: try to like send yourself a little love and get
Speaker 1: over the hurt and like a person that teasy that
Speaker 1: way you wouldn't want in your life anyway. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a great opportunity for revenge. Definitely go his best friend.
Speaker 1: Um no, I think, um Kim, And listen, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go someone in your life too. We've all done it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people aren't decent enough to have these very uncomfortable conversations,
Speaker 1: or maybe something really tragic happened, So you should hold
Speaker 1: space in your heart for him, and you know, like
Speaker 1: we say in this out, pray for him. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the case, because he was following her, watching
Speaker 1: all the Instagram stories for about a month and he's canceled.
Speaker 1: He's canceled exactly. Honestly, I think this is better advice
Speaker 1: than Dean and Jared would have given. So thanks to
Speaker 1: both of you. Thank you so much. It's just so
Speaker 1: much fun. Thank you. And Tommy, you're off to what
Speaker 1: did you say you're gonna do? To do archery? Right now?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do some archery, which is very off
Speaker 1: brand for me, but as was my fly fishing excursion yesterday.
Speaker 1: But I'm honestly, like I was telling my friend earlier,
Speaker 1: I thought my Montana's my first time in Montana. I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be more like Nicole Kidman's
Speaker 1: seventy three Questions, and I was going to be in
Speaker 1: a virgin dress, like prancing around picking or something. But
Speaker 1: the reality is I've been in like man jeans and
Speaker 1: my grandfather's filannel fishing and it's iconic. But I've never
Speaker 1: felt hotter, and I wish there were more guys to here.
Speaker 1: But I found one positive twink from Connecticut who left
Speaker 1: the day I got here. It was really sad. Um. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm back. I apologize. I know that
Speaker 1: that was the absolute worst thing to possibly happen, but
Speaker 1: it sounds like you handled it perfectly, perfectly fine, So
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for the record. For the record,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm currently in western Utah. It's a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty degrees and all of my electronics aren't well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a c This was loud and I didn't
Speaker 1: want to disrupt the audio quality. So it's just I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting in this thing baking right now. Just for
Speaker 1: you guys though. Yeah, and Tommy, I understand. You gotta go.
Speaker 1: You said you were going fishing today. I went fishing yesterday.
Speaker 1: I have to go to archery right now. You really
Speaker 1: are living that montanaly Yes, thank you so much. I'll
Speaker 1: tend to photos somehow. I'll find a way of my
Speaker 1: arch exclude him over on Instagram or something like that. Hey,
Speaker 1: bye bye, it was nice to meet you. We're to
Speaker 1: uh still to finish out the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Go enjoy your archery, chilly guys.
Speaker 1: What Branny tell us more about other projects that you
Speaker 1: might be working on. Um, well, I also I make
Speaker 1: music as well. I'm this music under my full name,
Speaker 1: which is Rainsford. So I have I just shot a
Speaker 1: music video of this past Sunday from my next single,
Speaker 1: it's called On, and then I have another single coming
Speaker 1: out the following month. Um, that's probably my favorite song
Speaker 1: we're ever written. Uh, we're shooting a video for at
Speaker 1: the end of the month that has some like really
Speaker 1: cool people involved. Um. Yeah, I've just been working on music. Awesome.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you act, you sing, what else
Speaker 1: do you do? Um? I am a cat enthusiast. My
Speaker 1: cat um and Foster kitttens too. I live with my
Speaker 1: sister and she's allergic to cats, and we just moved
Speaker 1: into like this a different apartment. So she's about to
Speaker 1: leave to Canada for like six months. I'm gonna probably
Speaker 1: pick up posting again once she's gone. So I don't
Speaker 1: toutu her cat here. Do you think it's your it's
Speaker 1: your cat fandom that is the reason that you're single. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm just a dumbass. That's
Speaker 1: probably what I'm single. No, come on, I just don't
Speaker 1: understand Okay, you're this awesome actress. You're putting out incredible music.
Speaker 1: So I just I guess I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 1: to piece together the reasons as to why. I guess
Speaker 1: obviously you're busy with your career and everything, and maybe
Speaker 1: you just don't have time to day. Maybe you're just
Speaker 1: not even interested in dating. Um, I have time and
Speaker 1: I'm interested. I don't know. I think I was in
Speaker 1: a cycle of kind of being jumping from one serious
Speaker 1: relationship with the next for like the majority of my twenties,
Speaker 1: and I think for the past year, I've actually it's
Speaker 1: been like a year since my last major breakup, and
Speaker 1: I think I definitely needed home to just actually foster
Speaker 1: my friendships and um have space on my own and
Speaker 1: kind of realized that I can be happy on my own.
Speaker 1: And I for the longest time, people I would hear
Speaker 1: people say like, oh, but once you're single for a while,
Speaker 1: you're just you're gonna be so happy, You're gonna not
Speaker 1: want to be with anyone. I always like thought like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: you're a crazy person, but but now actually I am
Speaker 1: happy being alone, And I think that's kind of like
Speaker 1: raised my standards for what I'm looking for in relationship
Speaker 1: and I'm not just like so eager to slip into
Speaker 1: something because it seems comfortable and that is what I'm using.
Speaker 1: So yeah, has the quarantine or the corona changed that
Speaker 1: perspective at all? I mean, obviously, like you said, you've
Speaker 1: been on dates and all those kinds of things, But
Speaker 1: has it shifted your mentality even more at all? Do
Speaker 1: you think? I think, more than anything, being in quarantine
Speaker 1: is really uh, like, usually my friend group, it's mostly
Speaker 1: like artists and actors, people that have jobbed through quire
Speaker 1: them to problem quite a bit. So having time where
Speaker 1: we can all hang used to be really few and
Speaker 1: far between. So but now during quarantine, everybody's stuck in
Speaker 1: l A and it's been kind of amazing in that
Speaker 1: we've been able to actually like hang out all the
Speaker 1: time and like have game really wholesome like bonding experiences
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have had otherwise. So I think that's
Speaker 1: been pretty great. I don't I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I haven't really had like monumentous dating breakthroughs in this time,
Speaker 1: but um, but yeah, I mean I think more than
Speaker 1: one than any think, it's like it's just helped me
Speaker 1: foster my friendships that I already had. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: do agree with what you said to It kind of
Speaker 1: allows you to be comfortable with being alone, which I
Speaker 1: think in turn, I don't want to use the word
Speaker 1: but like and I'm not saying that you'd like this
Speaker 1: at all, but like, the less desperate you are for
Speaker 1: a relationship, the more meaningful relationship becomes later on. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're desperate at all. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: the fact that you're like self sustained and independent and
Speaker 1: you're not like actively seeking out a relationship just for
Speaker 1: the sake of a relationship, that is, Like, that's a
Speaker 1: good thing, I think totally. Yeah, I think having any
Speaker 1: kind of desperate energy, whether you're like I, I've definitely
Speaker 1: felt that way, almost more when I'm when I can
Speaker 1: when I've been in a relationship and I can feel
Speaker 1: that it's falling apart, and then it become desperate to
Speaker 1: try to hold it together because I don't want to
Speaker 1: lose the love that I have. That. Yeah, like having
Speaker 1: like frantic, scared energy, I don't think it's a good
Speaker 1: place to be in when you're searching for something or
Speaker 1: when you're in something already, So yeah, I agree, that's
Speaker 1: my mentality almost everything. Especially my girlfriend hates when I
Speaker 1: say that about marriage, But I'm like, if I like
Speaker 1: don't want to get married at all for my entire life,
Speaker 1: and then somehow I do end up getting married, it's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know that it's more meaningful because despite my best
Speaker 1: efforts to not let it happen, it's still is going
Speaker 1: to happen, which makes it happening for a good reason,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like, in the case
Speaker 1: of dating new people, it's like, you don't really want
Speaker 1: to date anyone, or you do want to date people,
Speaker 1: but you're not like actively uh putting that, yeah, that
Speaker 1: desperate attitude out there, and because of that, you're going
Speaker 1: to I guess, attract the people that you want to
Speaker 1: attract more so. And I mean, hey, look, you're killing it.
Speaker 1: You're on the freaking hit show Love in the Time
Speaker 1: of Corona and you've got some singles coming out, So
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand how guys aren't line it up.
Speaker 1: But besides all that stuff, I'm gonna let you go.
Speaker 1: Um where else can the listeners, like, can they find
Speaker 1: you on Instagram? On Twitter? What else are you. Are
Speaker 1: we able to get more rainy content. Yeah, you said
Speaker 1: it's social media. All my stuff's rainsford because it's like
Speaker 1: music related for much. But yeah, that's I'm I'm online.
Speaker 1: We'll find you. I'm excited to binge the rest of
Speaker 1: Loving the Time of Corona. Um, and that's on free
Speaker 1: Form and all the episodes are out right. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: on free Form and hullo. That comes out Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 1: two episodes each day. And actually I've only seen clips.
Speaker 1: I've even seen it, so you've seen one night. Okay, gosh,
Speaker 1: I've only seen the first episode. But yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: maybe it hasn't been out yet. Maybe what I saw
Speaker 1: as a screener. I don't know. Either way, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing the rest. To check it out on
Speaker 1: free Form. I think it premieres, yeah, I guess I'm reading.
Speaker 1: It premieres this weekend at eight pm, So be sure
Speaker 1: to check her out and Tommy out over there. And
Speaker 1: we'll be on the lookout for those singles. You said
Speaker 1: you're excited for the single let you're dropping next month. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: so we'll ben look out for that as well. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Thank you for handling some of those emails for me.
Speaker 1: Sorry for dropping out, but I appreciate it. All right,
Speaker 1: We'll see you later, ye all right? Why am I
Speaker 1: so awkward? This is why we need Jared in here
Speaker 1: because he is much better interviewing guests than I am.
Speaker 1: I'm just incredibly awkward. Anyways, I'll do it for this
Speaker 1: week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating? Unless Mark
Speaker 1: or Eastern want to chirp in and say anything that
Speaker 1: I might have missed. What a Girl Wants? Oh, what
Speaker 1: a Girl Wants? That's right, thanks Danielle. So What a
Speaker 1: Girl Wants has been our Thursday installment of just that.
Speaker 1: What a Girl Wants, We speak with some of the
Speaker 1: incredible women from Bachelor Nation and just kind of picked
Speaker 1: their brains a little bit. Because two guys talking for
Speaker 1: an hour per week about dating, it just doesn't really
Speaker 1: cut it and it only really shares one side of
Speaker 1: the story. So What a Girl Wants every Thursday. Who
Speaker 1: do we have this week on What a Girl Wants? Danielle,
Speaker 1: Raven and Alexis I think, yeah, we're taking a little
Speaker 1: break this week, but we're coming back strong with Raven
Speaker 1: and Alexis were super excited um to talk to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Raven and Alexis are both great. I just talked to
Speaker 1: Raven actually the other day for the first time in
Speaker 1: a while. But you see, if you're doing well, um,
Speaker 1: and they're incredibly insightful. Raven obviously is getting married to
Speaker 1: Adam from my season of The bachelorret and Alexis has
Speaker 1: been dating her boyfriend for the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to hear from them, give some
Speaker 1: updates about the relationships and just hear kind of what's
Speaker 1: going on in their lives. And that is under help
Speaker 1: I sucky dating. Wherever you get your podcast, but it's
Speaker 1: called What a Girl Wants, uh, And if you haven't
Speaker 1: checked out the last couple of episodes, we had the
Speaker 1: ferguson Twins, and we had Molly and Trista Sutter on
Speaker 1: last week's What a Girl Wants as well, and they're
Speaker 1: both fantastic. So check that out if you haven't already.
Speaker 1: And if you already have checked it out again, why
Speaker 1: not it's probably worth a re listen. So um. In
Speaker 1: the meantime, I promised next week I'll come back with Jared.
Speaker 1: I promise this podcast will have a little bit more structure.
Speaker 1: I promise I won't be recording from a van where
Speaker 1: it's a hundred and twenty degrees and all of my
Speaker 1: electronics going overheat because because of that. Anyways, tune in
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