1 00:00:15,436 --> 00:00:22,636 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey there, it's justin Richmond. Today we're gonna hear 2 00:00:22,636 --> 00:00:24,516 Speaker 1: a chat with one of my favorite artists from twenty 3 00:00:24,596 --> 00:00:28,436 Speaker 1: twenty one, Atlanta singer songwriter Faye Webster. We'll get into 4 00:00:28,476 --> 00:00:30,556 Speaker 1: her backstory in a minute, but first let's hear her 5 00:00:30,556 --> 00:00:33,036 Speaker 1: perform the title song off her new album, I Know 6 00:00:33,116 --> 00:00:38,516 Speaker 1: I'm Funny ha ha live from the Shangarlock control room. 7 00:00:38,676 --> 00:00:46,196 Speaker 1: Let's see. Don drink some sugame and we can argue 8 00:00:46,476 --> 00:00:56,756 Speaker 1: out the same thing. Talk about neighbors, food, I wonder 9 00:00:57,316 --> 00:01:05,036 Speaker 1: thing moving. I hope they don't know my one personally 10 00:01:07,076 --> 00:01:13,116 Speaker 1: some of it told them offt in this thing. The 11 00:01:13,436 --> 00:01:40,116 Speaker 1: fucking he kept my money you m h. I think 12 00:01:40,196 --> 00:01:48,716 Speaker 1: your sister's so pretty good drunken afy could they met me? 13 00:01:50,676 --> 00:01:56,956 Speaker 1: I made her laugh one time at dinner. She said, 14 00:01:57,036 --> 00:02:03,516 Speaker 1: I'm funny. No I think too. I know I'm funny. 15 00:02:03,756 --> 00:02:24,876 Speaker 1: Ha ha hm m M. I don't know. I keep 16 00:02:24,956 --> 00:02:35,156 Speaker 1: China on. We go through faces overs, but now we 17 00:02:35,436 --> 00:02:41,836 Speaker 1: both won will be rock stars. Got you base last 18 00:02:41,956 --> 00:02:50,556 Speaker 1: June birthday, same one the garphone linkin park Place. M 19 00:02:51,596 --> 00:03:21,196 Speaker 1: you look better with it anyways. That was Faye Webster 20 00:03:21,276 --> 00:03:24,436 Speaker 1: performing her song I Know I'm Funny ha ha. Fay 21 00:03:24,476 --> 00:03:27,276 Speaker 1: stopped by Changarla earlier this month, in between stops on 22 00:03:27,356 --> 00:03:30,196 Speaker 1: her tour opening for Wilco. The twenty four year old 23 00:03:30,196 --> 00:03:33,356 Speaker 1: singer Songwriters started releasing music independently when she was just 24 00:03:33,436 --> 00:03:36,756 Speaker 1: sixteen years old. In twenty seventeen, her second album was 25 00:03:36,796 --> 00:03:40,396 Speaker 1: released through Awful Records, home to the Atlanta hip hop collective. 26 00:03:40,956 --> 00:03:42,916 Speaker 1: Faye was a bit of an outlier on that rap 27 00:03:42,916 --> 00:03:45,276 Speaker 1: heavy label, but working with them gave her a different 28 00:03:45,276 --> 00:03:48,556 Speaker 1: perspective on recording than she otherwise would have had. In 29 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:51,476 Speaker 1: the years since, Faye Webster has gotten critical acclaim from 30 00:03:51,516 --> 00:03:54,556 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone and Pitchfork, and even ended up with a 31 00:03:54,596 --> 00:03:58,876 Speaker 1: coveted placement on Barack Obama's twenty twenty Spotify playlist. On 32 00:03:58,916 --> 00:04:01,356 Speaker 1: today's episode, I talked to Faye about artists like The 33 00:04:01,436 --> 00:04:05,116 Speaker 1: Ramones and Garth Brooks influencing her writing style. Faye also 34 00:04:05,116 --> 00:04:07,556 Speaker 1: played some songs live, as well as an early demo 35 00:04:07,676 --> 00:04:14,836 Speaker 1: version of her song Years. This is broken record liner 36 00:04:14,916 --> 00:04:22,596 Speaker 1: notes for the digital age. I'm justin Richmond. Here's my 37 00:04:22,636 --> 00:04:26,836 Speaker 1: conversation with Fay Webster. How long you've been on tour already? 38 00:04:27,036 --> 00:04:29,556 Speaker 1: Like for this tour only like two weeks. It's kind 39 00:04:29,556 --> 00:04:32,276 Speaker 1: of short this stretch, but we had just got off 40 00:04:32,316 --> 00:04:36,236 Speaker 1: tour from a month long tour before this. Yeah, okay 41 00:04:36,316 --> 00:04:38,316 Speaker 1: on the East Coast. Was that your first tour back? 42 00:04:38,516 --> 00:04:41,236 Speaker 1: It was? How was that? Going back at it? It 43 00:04:41,276 --> 00:04:44,196 Speaker 1: was fun. I feel like the first like three shows 44 00:04:44,196 --> 00:04:47,876 Speaker 1: were like weird, but after the fourth shows like, oh, 45 00:04:47,916 --> 00:04:51,996 Speaker 1: this is completely like I understand because like the past year, 46 00:04:51,996 --> 00:04:55,036 Speaker 1: I just been like sitting at home. So it's just 47 00:04:55,156 --> 00:04:59,996 Speaker 1: like I forgot like how stressful of a hustle touring is. 48 00:05:00,716 --> 00:05:02,836 Speaker 1: But it's also like such a normal thing to me 49 00:05:02,876 --> 00:05:05,316 Speaker 1: at this point. Nice. So I think you just took 50 00:05:05,516 --> 00:05:07,996 Speaker 1: a second to get back into the groove. Did you 51 00:05:08,116 --> 00:05:09,836 Speaker 1: enjoy just staying at home for like a year year 52 00:05:09,836 --> 00:05:13,436 Speaker 1: and a half? Yeah, I left it, Yeah I did, 53 00:05:13,476 --> 00:05:15,516 Speaker 1: because when I'm not touring, I'm just like that's what 54 00:05:15,556 --> 00:05:18,476 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Anyways, it's very normal to me. When did 55 00:05:18,476 --> 00:05:21,036 Speaker 1: you first start toy? I think my first tour was 56 00:05:21,076 --> 00:05:24,596 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen, so how old were you? I 57 00:05:24,636 --> 00:05:29,836 Speaker 1: was born in ninety seven, right, so I think that 58 00:05:29,876 --> 00:05:32,556 Speaker 1: sounds about right because my first tour I wasn't old 59 00:05:32,636 --> 00:05:35,516 Speaker 1: enough to drink and then I went to Europe and 60 00:05:35,556 --> 00:05:38,396 Speaker 1: I could drink there because the drinking age is low. 61 00:05:38,836 --> 00:05:40,956 Speaker 1: I remember getting like a really drunken Europe on my 62 00:05:40,996 --> 00:05:44,396 Speaker 1: first tour, and I like left my guitar and like 63 00:05:45,276 --> 00:05:49,076 Speaker 1: some crazy city that I could not get back to. Um. 64 00:05:49,196 --> 00:05:52,476 Speaker 1: I think I was in Glasgow, and then I think 65 00:05:52,476 --> 00:05:56,076 Speaker 1: I went back to London or something without damn, I 66 00:05:56,156 --> 00:06:00,636 Speaker 1: was hungover as buck and I left my guitar in Glasgow. 67 00:06:00,716 --> 00:06:07,276 Speaker 1: That sucks any other good tour stories. Probably my concept 68 00:06:07,276 --> 00:06:09,876 Speaker 1: of time is so messed up. Yeah, when I'm touring 69 00:06:09,916 --> 00:06:11,756 Speaker 1: and I feel like I don't think of things until 70 00:06:11,756 --> 00:06:15,796 Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, like I remember that, It's like 71 00:06:15,836 --> 00:06:19,276 Speaker 1: when was that? Where was that? But I don't know, 72 00:06:20,676 --> 00:06:22,756 Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's funny because I feel like 73 00:06:22,836 --> 00:06:24,796 Speaker 1: for most people who don't like just go on tour, 74 00:06:24,836 --> 00:06:27,156 Speaker 1: most people felt like the last year kind of warped 75 00:06:27,236 --> 00:06:28,836 Speaker 1: time for them, like they had no way to kind 76 00:06:28,836 --> 00:06:31,516 Speaker 1: of measure or account time. But for you, it was 77 00:06:31,556 --> 00:06:33,076 Speaker 1: just like that might not have been the case. It's 78 00:06:33,116 --> 00:06:35,436 Speaker 1: like normal if touring life just your normal sort of 79 00:06:35,436 --> 00:06:37,916 Speaker 1: life is a musician cause you just sort of have 80 00:06:37,996 --> 00:06:41,116 Speaker 1: that not being tethered to time, feeling yeah, was it 81 00:06:41,116 --> 00:06:42,796 Speaker 1: like different for you then the pandemic. Do think you 82 00:06:42,836 --> 00:06:45,316 Speaker 1: experienced it different? I guess so. I feel like it's 83 00:06:45,356 --> 00:06:50,396 Speaker 1: so different per person anyways, you know. But I feel 84 00:06:50,436 --> 00:06:56,356 Speaker 1: like over the pandemic time like flew by somehow, but 85 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:58,876 Speaker 1: also like it was nice because it's just like in 86 00:06:58,916 --> 00:07:02,436 Speaker 1: the moment. But tour, it's like last week seems like 87 00:07:03,436 --> 00:07:06,076 Speaker 1: last month to me right now when you're actually moving around, 88 00:07:06,476 --> 00:07:09,316 Speaker 1: how do you enjoy it? I do. I feel like 89 00:07:09,396 --> 00:07:13,236 Speaker 1: I enjoy both, Like I enjoy being home, but I 90 00:07:13,316 --> 00:07:16,156 Speaker 1: also like I enjoy being on tour. It's like when 91 00:07:16,156 --> 00:07:18,036 Speaker 1: I'm on tour, I'm like I can't wait to get home, 92 00:07:18,556 --> 00:07:19,916 Speaker 1: and then when I'm home, I'm like, I can't wait 93 00:07:19,956 --> 00:07:22,076 Speaker 1: to get on tour. And I was just going through 94 00:07:22,116 --> 00:07:24,556 Speaker 1: this cycle for the rest of my life. When you 95 00:07:24,596 --> 00:07:26,956 Speaker 1: were younger, did you want to be a professional musician? 96 00:07:27,036 --> 00:07:28,876 Speaker 1: I go out, like to make a living touring and 97 00:07:29,396 --> 00:07:31,796 Speaker 1: making records or not really, I mean I wanted to 98 00:07:31,796 --> 00:07:35,116 Speaker 1: make music, and then it was like it wasn't like 99 00:07:35,196 --> 00:07:37,436 Speaker 1: senior year of high school and there was actually pressure 100 00:07:37,436 --> 00:07:38,556 Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, what do you want to 101 00:07:38,996 --> 00:07:41,756 Speaker 1: do when you grew up? And like that moment of 102 00:07:41,876 --> 00:07:43,956 Speaker 1: just like applying to colleges and stuff. I was like, 103 00:07:45,156 --> 00:07:46,756 Speaker 1: I guess this is the only thing I know how 104 00:07:46,796 --> 00:07:49,276 Speaker 1: to do. But I wasn't like, oh, I can't wait 105 00:07:49,316 --> 00:07:52,756 Speaker 1: to be a touring musician and like putting out records. 106 00:07:52,756 --> 00:07:55,196 Speaker 1: It was just like, I play music. That's all I 107 00:07:55,236 --> 00:07:57,956 Speaker 1: know what to do right now, right, And I feel 108 00:07:57,956 --> 00:07:59,996 Speaker 1: like that just like escalated into what it is. And 109 00:08:00,036 --> 00:08:02,116 Speaker 1: you would already put out a record by that point, right, 110 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:05,676 Speaker 1: your first very first record, Yeah, you would put out 111 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:08,156 Speaker 1: in high school? Yeah I did. Yeah, Well, got you 112 00:08:08,156 --> 00:08:11,876 Speaker 1: started playing music? Got you interested? My brother plays music 113 00:08:12,756 --> 00:08:14,476 Speaker 1: and he's a few years older than me, So I 114 00:08:14,476 --> 00:08:17,116 Speaker 1: feel like kind of just like sitting in my room 115 00:08:17,116 --> 00:08:18,996 Speaker 1: and hearing him through the walls in the house, I 116 00:08:19,116 --> 00:08:22,356 Speaker 1: was just like, that's kind of cool. What was he playing? Um? 117 00:08:22,596 --> 00:08:27,076 Speaker 1: He was like a Ramones Fane and like whatever, like 118 00:08:27,436 --> 00:08:30,236 Speaker 1: classic rock my dad listened to. I feel like he 119 00:08:30,316 --> 00:08:32,436 Speaker 1: kind of fell into that. So yeah, he was just 120 00:08:32,516 --> 00:08:36,956 Speaker 1: like in the basement setting up shitty amps and stuff, 121 00:08:37,636 --> 00:08:42,316 Speaker 1: shitty microphones and just like playing music, playing blitz greeg bop. 122 00:08:42,876 --> 00:08:46,596 Speaker 1: Yeah was it? And this was in Atlanta? Yes? Cool? 123 00:08:46,676 --> 00:08:50,756 Speaker 1: When do you start discovering like the larger music scene Atlanta. 124 00:08:50,996 --> 00:08:54,356 Speaker 1: When does that happen? Not? So like high school, I 125 00:08:54,476 --> 00:08:57,796 Speaker 1: was playing open mics all the time because there's the 126 00:08:57,836 --> 00:09:01,316 Speaker 1: only chance I had to play songs not in my bedroom. 127 00:09:02,796 --> 00:09:04,796 Speaker 1: And I think that's when I started to meet people 128 00:09:05,596 --> 00:09:08,516 Speaker 1: and be like, there's music that exists. That's not what 129 00:09:08,636 --> 00:09:11,196 Speaker 1: my parents are listening to. That's not what my brothers 130 00:09:11,276 --> 00:09:13,636 Speaker 1: listening to. Like that's crazy. I feel like it wasn't 131 00:09:13,676 --> 00:09:15,916 Speaker 1: untill like high school that I figured that out. Wow 132 00:09:16,236 --> 00:09:17,836 Speaker 1: were you writing at that time? Like, were you like 133 00:09:17,876 --> 00:09:20,236 Speaker 1: the songs you're playing at the open mics? Yeah, I 134 00:09:20,316 --> 00:09:23,596 Speaker 1: mean they sucked, but I was, yeah, I was writing songs. 135 00:09:24,116 --> 00:09:25,876 Speaker 1: What got you writing? I don't know. I feel like 136 00:09:25,876 --> 00:09:28,716 Speaker 1: when I learned a guitar, I was just playing covers 137 00:09:28,716 --> 00:09:32,916 Speaker 1: over and over and like even going to guitar lessons, 138 00:09:32,916 --> 00:09:34,556 Speaker 1: I would just print out lyrics and they would just 139 00:09:34,596 --> 00:09:36,636 Speaker 1: like write the chord above the lyric, like what it's 140 00:09:36,636 --> 00:09:39,276 Speaker 1: time to change to the chord, And I feel like, 141 00:09:39,396 --> 00:09:42,716 Speaker 1: I mean, I have like ten binders full of these lessons, 142 00:09:42,876 --> 00:09:45,036 Speaker 1: So I feel like I was just like, maybe I 143 00:09:45,036 --> 00:09:48,316 Speaker 1: should try to write my own songs to where they 144 00:09:48,356 --> 00:09:50,636 Speaker 1: can't do this to my songs like they can't tell 145 00:09:50,676 --> 00:09:52,876 Speaker 1: me what to play when you know, would you take 146 00:09:52,916 --> 00:09:54,956 Speaker 1: those into your teacher or would you would you just 147 00:09:55,036 --> 00:09:57,996 Speaker 1: quit lessons? And like, oh, eventually I switched teachers and 148 00:09:58,876 --> 00:10:00,636 Speaker 1: I started off with like a guitar teacher, and then 149 00:10:00,676 --> 00:10:03,556 Speaker 1: I went to like, oh, maybe I'll try a songwriting teacher, 150 00:10:04,716 --> 00:10:06,996 Speaker 1: and I would just like play songs. Just kind of 151 00:10:07,076 --> 00:10:10,796 Speaker 1: terrifying because they wrote good songs and I didn't feel 152 00:10:10,796 --> 00:10:14,556 Speaker 1: like I didn't even think about it, being like I 153 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:17,076 Speaker 1: want to write my own songs. I think I just 154 00:10:17,156 --> 00:10:21,076 Speaker 1: like started doing it from all those guitar lessons that 155 00:10:21,116 --> 00:10:24,116 Speaker 1: I first took, where they just wrote the chords above 156 00:10:24,156 --> 00:10:27,436 Speaker 1: the lyrics. I feel like that's kind of when I like, 157 00:10:27,436 --> 00:10:30,436 Speaker 1: I would eventually choose to change the key of songs 158 00:10:30,476 --> 00:10:33,396 Speaker 1: just to like play those chords. Are those are the chords? 159 00:10:33,396 --> 00:10:35,196 Speaker 1: Like if you sit down the guitar, you just start 160 00:10:35,276 --> 00:10:40,516 Speaker 1: playing those more often than not. Flick. Yes. I don't 161 00:10:40,516 --> 00:10:43,076 Speaker 1: even know who they are and I truly cannot tell you. 162 00:10:43,996 --> 00:10:47,276 Speaker 1: And are there any songs that you've written using like 163 00:10:47,316 --> 00:10:51,796 Speaker 1: those exactly those chords? Uh? Yeah, a lot? Anything you 164 00:10:51,836 --> 00:10:56,556 Speaker 1: can play? Um, do you want to play a song? Sure? 165 00:11:07,476 --> 00:11:12,516 Speaker 1: Student to want something better. It's been my time but 166 00:11:12,956 --> 00:11:20,836 Speaker 1: nothing so pepe nothing you were so long for me 167 00:11:20,996 --> 00:11:28,956 Speaker 1: to I'm so alone and here I'm with me. I 168 00:11:29,076 --> 00:11:32,756 Speaker 1: went to what in such you mind? You seem pretty 169 00:11:32,916 --> 00:11:42,516 Speaker 1: lucky butt and leave little fully up too same she 170 00:11:42,996 --> 00:11:46,436 Speaker 1: wastes and no change his name and make it my 171 00:11:50,796 --> 00:11:55,756 Speaker 1: will you William? Will you will you will you? Will 172 00:11:55,836 --> 00:12:04,236 Speaker 1: you be with me? Will you will you will you 173 00:12:04,476 --> 00:12:13,516 Speaker 1: will you Willia? Will you be with me? M try 174 00:12:13,596 --> 00:12:18,236 Speaker 1: to eat truth, sleep, but everything seems born to me. 175 00:12:18,436 --> 00:12:26,396 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Got to friendsic see 176 00:12:26,516 --> 00:12:29,996 Speaker 1: but they cut two jobs and a baby. I just 177 00:12:30,316 --> 00:12:38,716 Speaker 1: want to see pending on her time apart. But the 178 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:48,076 Speaker 1: distractions are in there, insental wor only two A couple 179 00:12:48,196 --> 00:12:52,956 Speaker 1: times thought you hear your likes, but I figured it 180 00:12:57,196 --> 00:13:01,236 Speaker 1: will you will you will you will you will you 181 00:13:01,756 --> 00:13:13,796 Speaker 1: will it be with me? Oh you will Lee bees, 182 00:13:20,716 --> 00:13:35,636 Speaker 1: will you will you? Who you leep? Busy O beus 183 00:13:38,236 --> 00:13:46,036 Speaker 1: O two chord songs. It's different, nice fucking love that 184 00:13:46,156 --> 00:13:48,956 Speaker 1: man like you have a really nice groove. There's also 185 00:13:48,956 --> 00:13:51,396 Speaker 1: a lot of repetition in your songs, which are like 186 00:13:51,756 --> 00:13:54,956 Speaker 1: well won two chords like you said yeah, like the 187 00:13:55,036 --> 00:13:57,876 Speaker 1: will you will you, and I feel like I appreciate 188 00:13:57,956 --> 00:14:04,116 Speaker 1: that in songwriting, just like sometimes like it should just 189 00:14:04,396 --> 00:14:08,916 Speaker 1: be simple, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like you 190 00:14:09,156 --> 00:14:11,356 Speaker 1: can play two chords and write a song. You can 191 00:14:11,396 --> 00:14:13,756 Speaker 1: play two chords and write a good song. The little 192 00:14:13,796 --> 00:14:15,996 Speaker 1: things that get overlooked is the cool shit to me, 193 00:14:17,356 --> 00:14:23,836 Speaker 1: influence creeping Yeah goodness, it's no shame in that it 194 00:14:23,916 --> 00:14:26,956 Speaker 1: doesn't love the Ramons. Yeah, we'll be right back with 195 00:14:27,036 --> 00:14:33,996 Speaker 1: Fay Webster. After a quick break, we're back with more 196 00:14:34,036 --> 00:14:37,076 Speaker 1: from my conversation with Fay Webster. Do you remember the 197 00:14:37,156 --> 00:14:40,316 Speaker 1: first song you wrote? Yeah, the first song I wrote, 198 00:14:41,276 --> 00:14:45,036 Speaker 1: I literally just like used the same melody as a 199 00:14:45,116 --> 00:14:47,916 Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus song and I changed the words, And I 200 00:14:47,956 --> 00:14:50,796 Speaker 1: remember my best friend got so mad at me, and 201 00:14:50,956 --> 00:14:54,556 Speaker 1: she was like delete this audio file, like you're going 202 00:14:54,636 --> 00:14:58,196 Speaker 1: to get sued, Like we're like an elementary school. Like 203 00:14:58,276 --> 00:15:01,836 Speaker 1: I was in like fifth grade, So I don't even 204 00:15:01,876 --> 00:15:04,196 Speaker 1: remember what it was, like what it egan was. I 205 00:15:04,276 --> 00:15:07,956 Speaker 1: just remember like I just changed the changed the lyrics, 206 00:15:08,156 --> 00:15:10,116 Speaker 1: used the same melody, and I was like I wrote 207 00:15:10,156 --> 00:15:14,516 Speaker 1: a song. My friends like no, what Miley song? What 208 00:15:14,636 --> 00:15:16,716 Speaker 1: what song did you change it was? I think it's 209 00:15:16,756 --> 00:15:19,876 Speaker 1: just called I miss you, okay, I don't know. It's 210 00:15:19,876 --> 00:15:23,676 Speaker 1: like very early. It was like I was really into 211 00:15:23,716 --> 00:15:25,956 Speaker 1: the song that she wrote with her dad on the airplane. 212 00:15:26,356 --> 00:15:28,196 Speaker 1: I don't know that one on the show and my dad. 213 00:15:28,196 --> 00:15:30,316 Speaker 1: I don't really get these references, but I don't Miley, 214 00:15:30,476 --> 00:15:32,996 Speaker 1: how'd you record that? I feel like my brothers had 215 00:15:33,156 --> 00:15:38,396 Speaker 1: like cool stuff, especially since he's older. Both of them 216 00:15:38,436 --> 00:15:40,676 Speaker 1: were into like making movies for a little bit, so 217 00:15:40,796 --> 00:15:44,476 Speaker 1: they had like the zoom recorder and like cool shit 218 00:15:44,916 --> 00:15:47,956 Speaker 1: connected to our PC. And I feel like maybe I 219 00:15:48,036 --> 00:15:50,236 Speaker 1: did it there. I don't even know. So fifth grade 220 00:15:50,316 --> 00:15:54,116 Speaker 1: you started writing and recording like the earliest stuff. Yeah, 221 00:15:54,316 --> 00:15:56,916 Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about because I don't remember 222 00:15:57,396 --> 00:15:59,836 Speaker 1: writing songs in fifth grade. But I remember, like performing 223 00:15:59,916 --> 00:16:02,596 Speaker 1: at my fifth grade graduation in one of your songs. 224 00:16:02,916 --> 00:16:08,636 Speaker 1: They did, but I sang the real one, Oh, the 225 00:16:08,716 --> 00:16:11,516 Speaker 1: real one, not your Okay, I should have seen your version. 226 00:16:11,796 --> 00:16:14,436 Speaker 1: I know. Did you play guitar? I performed that Did 227 00:16:14,476 --> 00:16:16,956 Speaker 1: you play the guitar? And was playing guitar? Wow, that's 228 00:16:16,996 --> 00:16:20,596 Speaker 1: fucking impressive for a fifth grader. But the first one 229 00:16:20,636 --> 00:16:25,236 Speaker 1: I ever learned was Lola the Kinks. Yeah, it's the 230 00:16:25,316 --> 00:16:29,636 Speaker 1: first one I ever learned. I don't know why. I 231 00:16:29,716 --> 00:16:32,996 Speaker 1: guess because my brother. Yeah, it's classic rock radio staple, 232 00:16:33,156 --> 00:16:36,676 Speaker 1: but the Kinks are incredible. Yeah, so classic rock punk 233 00:16:36,796 --> 00:16:39,756 Speaker 1: rock early on, like a Ramons at least is what 234 00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,196 Speaker 1: you were. That's just what you're hearing around the house. Yeah, 235 00:16:42,636 --> 00:16:44,876 Speaker 1: or like that's what my dad would play and my brother, 236 00:16:45,356 --> 00:16:48,396 Speaker 1: but then my mom would play like western swing music, 237 00:16:48,956 --> 00:16:52,756 Speaker 1: which I think I gravitated towards more like Texas playboys 238 00:16:52,836 --> 00:16:54,996 Speaker 1: and yeah, like a Sleep at the Wheel was one 239 00:16:54,996 --> 00:16:59,436 Speaker 1: of our favorite bands growing up. Wow, Alison Krause, Garth Brooks, 240 00:16:59,916 --> 00:17:02,636 Speaker 1: shit like that, Alison Krause, that's a really I don't know, 241 00:17:02,756 --> 00:17:05,156 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty evolved taste. I feel like, do you 242 00:17:05,236 --> 00:17:08,756 Speaker 1: think so? I feel like it makes so much sense. 243 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,756 Speaker 1: And that's interesting you say that because I've said that 244 00:17:11,796 --> 00:17:14,796 Speaker 1: to people before and they're like, really, well, my mom 245 00:17:14,916 --> 00:17:17,076 Speaker 1: is from Texas and like grew up listening to like 246 00:17:17,756 --> 00:17:20,316 Speaker 1: soft country like that. I feel like they she just 247 00:17:20,396 --> 00:17:22,956 Speaker 1: put me on before she put on all of y'all. Man, 248 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:25,076 Speaker 1: So what was it about Alison Krass that drew you in? 249 00:17:25,556 --> 00:17:28,796 Speaker 1: Definitely her voice. I was like, this is crazy, like 250 00:17:28,916 --> 00:17:34,236 Speaker 1: it truly sounds unreal. Like a cgi vocal woid. It's 251 00:17:34,236 --> 00:17:36,636 Speaker 1: just like too perfect all the time. It's heavenly. But 252 00:17:36,716 --> 00:17:38,996 Speaker 1: I also like that she played the violin. Yeah, I 253 00:17:39,076 --> 00:17:42,476 Speaker 1: like tried to take violin lessons a bunch and I 254 00:17:42,636 --> 00:17:45,436 Speaker 1: just sucked. I was so bad at it. I was like, 255 00:17:45,476 --> 00:17:48,316 Speaker 1: I can't do this. But it's also like, I mean, 256 00:17:48,396 --> 00:17:51,836 Speaker 1: growing up, I would only hear male artists, So I 257 00:17:51,876 --> 00:17:54,436 Speaker 1: feel like, finally when my mom started playing me Alison Cross, 258 00:17:54,516 --> 00:17:56,956 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like girls can do this too. Yeah, 259 00:17:57,836 --> 00:18:01,596 Speaker 1: that's fucking sick. She was very inspirational for me. And 260 00:18:01,636 --> 00:18:03,996 Speaker 1: I gotta say, if you're only hearing male artis, especially 261 00:18:03,996 --> 00:18:06,036 Speaker 1: if it's like the Ramones and like Zeppelin, you know, 262 00:18:06,116 --> 00:18:08,796 Speaker 1: like your usual like her voice would really cut through 263 00:18:08,916 --> 00:18:12,476 Speaker 1: the noise. Truly, I'm not super familiar with Atlanta. When 264 00:18:12,476 --> 00:18:14,876 Speaker 1: I think of Atlanta, I think really great R and B, 265 00:18:15,236 --> 00:18:17,476 Speaker 1: really great hip hop, you know, like I guess there's 266 00:18:17,556 --> 00:18:19,556 Speaker 1: rock and roll bands around, Like I don't really you know, 267 00:18:19,596 --> 00:18:20,996 Speaker 1: but I don't really think of it like that way. 268 00:18:21,996 --> 00:18:24,476 Speaker 1: Was that like were you plugged into that stuff growing up? 269 00:18:24,636 --> 00:18:27,996 Speaker 1: Was were you hearing that? I mean born in ninety seven, Like, yeah, 270 00:18:28,236 --> 00:18:31,076 Speaker 1: everything's hitting at that I like Atlanta because it's just 271 00:18:31,236 --> 00:18:34,716 Speaker 1: like there's everything. It's like what do you want? And 272 00:18:34,796 --> 00:18:37,116 Speaker 1: then you can find that there. You can go see 273 00:18:37,196 --> 00:18:40,596 Speaker 1: like a garage rock band, and you can also go 274 00:18:40,716 --> 00:18:44,156 Speaker 1: see like sick ass rep and R and B artist, 275 00:18:44,236 --> 00:18:48,156 Speaker 1: and you can also go see like singers long writers 276 00:18:48,316 --> 00:18:50,676 Speaker 1: at like a weird open mic. I don't know, it's 277 00:18:50,716 --> 00:18:54,356 Speaker 1: like I really appreciate that about Atlanta. So once you 278 00:18:54,396 --> 00:18:56,076 Speaker 1: got to high school sort of finding your own music, 279 00:18:56,196 --> 00:18:59,396 Speaker 1: what were you finding? I feel like I was that's 280 00:18:59,436 --> 00:19:02,436 Speaker 1: when I was finding like folk music or like folk 281 00:19:02,756 --> 00:19:06,796 Speaker 1: rock music. I was listening to Daz's record Nothing Is 282 00:19:06,836 --> 00:19:09,396 Speaker 1: Wrong a Lot in high School is one of my 283 00:19:09,476 --> 00:19:11,916 Speaker 1: favorite records in high school. How did you end up 284 00:19:11,916 --> 00:19:14,916 Speaker 1: recording your first record in high school? My friend had 285 00:19:14,956 --> 00:19:16,796 Speaker 1: moved to Nashville, so I was just like going there 286 00:19:16,796 --> 00:19:19,836 Speaker 1: a lot and it was just like it was really 287 00:19:19,916 --> 00:19:22,276 Speaker 1: my dad that was like, you're you're playing these open 288 00:19:22,356 --> 00:19:24,156 Speaker 1: mics all the time and then you have like nothing 289 00:19:24,236 --> 00:19:28,556 Speaker 1: to give to people. I'm like, okay, do they even 290 00:19:28,636 --> 00:19:31,236 Speaker 1: want something? Like I didn't even know, but I had 291 00:19:31,316 --> 00:19:33,436 Speaker 1: these songs and it was just like I knew so 292 00:19:33,556 --> 00:19:35,996 Speaker 1: many people in Nashville that made music. And how'd you 293 00:19:36,076 --> 00:19:39,676 Speaker 1: know people there because my friend moved there that I 294 00:19:39,876 --> 00:19:43,476 Speaker 1: met also in like the open mic stuff. When she moved, 295 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:45,836 Speaker 1: I would just like go visit her and like sing 296 00:19:45,996 --> 00:19:49,196 Speaker 1: with her and like play music with her. It's recorded 297 00:19:49,276 --> 00:19:51,636 Speaker 1: really well. It's just like in a house. I recorded 298 00:19:51,716 --> 00:19:54,436 Speaker 1: both my first two records, and just like bedrooms. You 299 00:19:54,556 --> 00:19:56,836 Speaker 1: had an engineer obviously on that, right, Yeah, because it's recorded, 300 00:19:56,876 --> 00:19:59,836 Speaker 1: it makes sense that I haven't listened to it. And 301 00:20:00,756 --> 00:20:04,396 Speaker 1: so long did you play anything off of that record? 302 00:20:04,476 --> 00:20:07,876 Speaker 1: Stof No, I barely play stuff off my self titled record. 303 00:20:08,156 --> 00:20:09,996 Speaker 1: Do you feel connection to any of the songs anymore? 304 00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:13,036 Speaker 1: Definitely not my first record. There's some songs on my 305 00:20:13,116 --> 00:20:16,156 Speaker 1: self title that I'm like, this still represents me in 306 00:20:16,276 --> 00:20:19,316 Speaker 1: some way, Like at one point it did really well 307 00:20:19,476 --> 00:20:22,076 Speaker 1: and it doesn't anymore. But I still like there's moments 308 00:20:22,116 --> 00:20:25,196 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I enjoyed playing the song because it 309 00:20:25,316 --> 00:20:29,276 Speaker 1: makes me feel like I just started playing music again. 310 00:20:29,516 --> 00:20:31,836 Speaker 1: My Self Titled was when I was just like, oh, 311 00:20:31,876 --> 00:20:34,476 Speaker 1: I'm taking this seriously now, how do you get from 312 00:20:34,996 --> 00:20:37,396 Speaker 1: that self titled or from the first record to the 313 00:20:37,436 --> 00:20:41,636 Speaker 1: self titled which was like it's pretty experimental for like, yeah, 314 00:20:41,836 --> 00:20:43,796 Speaker 1: Rold you might have been at the time. Yeah, I 315 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:45,556 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like the first one is like 316 00:20:45,836 --> 00:20:48,916 Speaker 1: very Nashville esque, and then when I realized that I 317 00:20:49,076 --> 00:20:53,236 Speaker 1: don't like Nashville, Like, I was just spending more time 318 00:20:53,596 --> 00:20:57,756 Speaker 1: back home in Atlanta, and like my brothers moved to Athens, 319 00:20:57,916 --> 00:20:59,516 Speaker 1: so I was spending a lot of time in Athens. 320 00:21:00,356 --> 00:21:03,116 Speaker 1: And just the music scene in Athens is really really sick. 321 00:21:03,396 --> 00:21:09,356 Speaker 1: What's that like? It's just like I literally call shit 322 00:21:09,516 --> 00:21:13,076 Speaker 1: like Athens rock, Like I don't know what you call it, 323 00:21:13,156 --> 00:21:15,636 Speaker 1: but it's like so I feel like it's it's like specific. 324 00:21:15,956 --> 00:21:19,116 Speaker 1: Is there like a band we could listen to or something? Well, 325 00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:22,196 Speaker 1: Rim is from Athens. Oh, I didn't realize that my 326 00:21:22,316 --> 00:21:25,556 Speaker 1: brother's in a really cool band called way Yuka, but 327 00:21:26,636 --> 00:21:28,876 Speaker 1: the wigs are from Athens. I don't know. It's kind 328 00:21:28,876 --> 00:21:30,556 Speaker 1: of iconic. And I was just like spending a lot 329 00:21:30,596 --> 00:21:33,156 Speaker 1: of time there and they had like shows and stuff 330 00:21:33,236 --> 00:21:36,196 Speaker 1: that I feel like Atlanta didn't really have the same 331 00:21:36,316 --> 00:21:40,676 Speaker 1: like intimate vibe as Athens did. A small town, I 332 00:21:40,916 --> 00:21:44,156 Speaker 1: don't know, I think so, And just like it's also 333 00:21:44,356 --> 00:21:47,556 Speaker 1: so supportive the way that Atlanta is supportive. So I 334 00:21:47,596 --> 00:21:49,196 Speaker 1: was spending also a lot of time in the air, 335 00:21:49,516 --> 00:21:52,236 Speaker 1: and that's when I was like meeting my brother's friends 336 00:21:52,316 --> 00:21:56,556 Speaker 1: that make music and like truly experiencing like what it's 337 00:21:56,596 --> 00:21:59,036 Speaker 1: like to be at a show or like what it's 338 00:21:59,116 --> 00:22:04,476 Speaker 1: like to like watch somebody record music. And that's when 339 00:22:04,516 --> 00:22:06,556 Speaker 1: I just like clicked with it and I've made on 340 00:22:06,916 --> 00:22:10,316 Speaker 1: all the rest of my records there. But I don't know, 341 00:22:11,236 --> 00:22:14,756 Speaker 1: it's really sick. How did you get on Awful Records 342 00:22:15,076 --> 00:22:18,036 Speaker 1: for that second record? I was just a fan. I 343 00:22:18,156 --> 00:22:22,676 Speaker 1: was literally a fan and was like messaging Etherial a lot, 344 00:22:22,996 --> 00:22:24,836 Speaker 1: just like sending my music, and he would like send 345 00:22:24,876 --> 00:22:28,676 Speaker 1: me his music eat humans would like sell photoprints at 346 00:22:28,676 --> 00:22:31,036 Speaker 1: their shows and I would like buy photos from him 347 00:22:31,076 --> 00:22:35,676 Speaker 1: and just like became friends. And then I think like 348 00:22:35,796 --> 00:22:37,676 Speaker 1: the year I dropped out of college, I was just 349 00:22:38,436 --> 00:22:41,836 Speaker 1: with them every day because I was just like watching 350 00:22:42,036 --> 00:22:45,156 Speaker 1: and learning. And then when it got time for me 351 00:22:45,236 --> 00:22:48,396 Speaker 1: to put out another record, they were just like like, 352 00:22:48,436 --> 00:22:51,996 Speaker 1: you're already here. You're already here every day, Like why 353 00:22:52,036 --> 00:22:54,716 Speaker 1: don't you just like do this with us? And how 354 00:22:54,756 --> 00:22:56,996 Speaker 1: would you explain that label to people? I feel like 355 00:22:57,316 --> 00:23:01,236 Speaker 1: maybe not. It's really like it was like a collective. 356 00:23:01,836 --> 00:23:04,636 Speaker 1: Like it didn't feel like I was on a label. 357 00:23:04,756 --> 00:23:08,436 Speaker 1: It just felt like I was a part of a 358 00:23:08,556 --> 00:23:11,916 Speaker 1: collective people that just like made cool shit. And it 359 00:23:12,076 --> 00:23:15,076 Speaker 1: wasn't even like all musicians. It was a very good 360 00:23:15,156 --> 00:23:19,156 Speaker 1: learning experience, an iconic like in Atlanta specifically, right, Yeah. 361 00:23:19,796 --> 00:23:21,516 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I was like when I joined, 362 00:23:21,596 --> 00:23:24,076 Speaker 1: I was like, even though I've been around these people 363 00:23:24,076 --> 00:23:26,076 Speaker 1: all day, it's like still some some people And I'm like, 364 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,556 Speaker 1: that's crazy that, like you want to hang out with me, 365 00:23:28,836 --> 00:23:31,836 Speaker 1: Like I've just listened to your music for like so 366 00:23:32,116 --> 00:23:35,876 Speaker 1: long and like idolize you guys at the time, would 367 00:23:35,876 --> 00:23:37,636 Speaker 1: you say it was like pretty local, like a local 368 00:23:37,996 --> 00:23:41,756 Speaker 1: yeah thing. Yeah, it really was. I don't know, it 369 00:23:41,876 --> 00:23:45,556 Speaker 1: was so iconic. Yeah, I feel like I would I 370 00:23:45,636 --> 00:23:47,956 Speaker 1: would have not wanted to have it any other way. 371 00:23:48,396 --> 00:23:50,796 Speaker 1: It's really like unique stuff and it reminds me like 372 00:23:51,036 --> 00:23:53,636 Speaker 1: not in not in terms of like the production sound, 373 00:23:53,676 --> 00:23:55,036 Speaker 1: but just in terms of the vibe like of like 374 00:23:55,116 --> 00:23:58,236 Speaker 1: the Memphis like the old Memphis cassette tape like rap 375 00:23:58,356 --> 00:24:00,596 Speaker 1: scene like back in the nineties, or or even like 376 00:24:00,636 --> 00:24:02,116 Speaker 1: the Bay Area rap scene, Like it just has its 377 00:24:02,196 --> 00:24:06,316 Speaker 1: own really distinctive, unique sound that you don't hear anywhere else. Yeah, 378 00:24:06,316 --> 00:24:07,676 Speaker 1: when I listened to those off When I listened to 379 00:24:07,676 --> 00:24:10,756 Speaker 1: those songs from from Off, Agree, what was it like 380 00:24:10,876 --> 00:24:13,876 Speaker 1: collaborating with them? I feel like everything was like so 381 00:24:14,236 --> 00:24:17,556 Speaker 1: di iy in like a way that I prefer, Like 382 00:24:17,716 --> 00:24:21,036 Speaker 1: I prefer to make music in a bedroom with friends, 383 00:24:22,036 --> 00:24:27,516 Speaker 1: and I feel like, just like watching people just like 384 00:24:28,116 --> 00:24:31,676 Speaker 1: make music when they felt like it was something I 385 00:24:31,876 --> 00:24:34,476 Speaker 1: had never really seen before. Like I was so used 386 00:24:34,476 --> 00:24:38,116 Speaker 1: to like people just sitting on songs forever and perfecting 387 00:24:38,196 --> 00:24:40,316 Speaker 1: it and like I'm not going to make a record 388 00:24:40,476 --> 00:24:43,636 Speaker 1: till I have twelve songs ready, and this way, it 389 00:24:43,756 --> 00:24:47,876 Speaker 1: just felt like when they made music, it was like 390 00:24:48,756 --> 00:24:50,716 Speaker 1: that's what it's supposed to sound like in this moment, 391 00:24:51,596 --> 00:24:53,116 Speaker 1: which is kind of how I like to record to 392 00:24:53,156 --> 00:24:56,356 Speaker 1: this day because it's like, yeah, I just wrote a 393 00:24:56,396 --> 00:24:57,716 Speaker 1: song and it's like I need to get this off 394 00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:01,676 Speaker 1: my chest now. Yeah, it's like if you sit on 395 00:25:01,756 --> 00:25:04,196 Speaker 1: it for a month, like you might just like alter 396 00:25:04,356 --> 00:25:08,116 Speaker 1: it or change it. And I feel like watching Awful record, 397 00:25:09,196 --> 00:25:11,476 Speaker 1: just like one take it was like sound good, y'all, 398 00:25:11,516 --> 00:25:13,516 Speaker 1: sound good to be like, let's put it out tomorrow, 399 00:25:14,316 --> 00:25:16,756 Speaker 1: And I was like, dang, that's like what people should 400 00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:19,356 Speaker 1: do more often and how you how would you put 401 00:25:19,396 --> 00:25:22,356 Speaker 1: them out? We were using SoundCloud a lot, and were 402 00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:25,596 Speaker 1: you making physical copies of things at all? No? Actually, 403 00:25:25,716 --> 00:25:29,196 Speaker 1: my Self Titled didn't come out on vinyl until last year. Really, Yeah, 404 00:25:29,756 --> 00:25:33,596 Speaker 1: so I never had records until AMC. That was like 405 00:25:33,676 --> 00:25:36,116 Speaker 1: the first time I was like really making records. That's cool. 406 00:25:36,756 --> 00:25:39,676 Speaker 1: The songs and yourself Titled? Were those all written pretty 407 00:25:39,716 --> 00:25:41,876 Speaker 1: quickly then and just recorded? Or were those songs that 408 00:25:41,876 --> 00:25:44,276 Speaker 1: you'd been building from the time you did your first record. 409 00:25:44,516 --> 00:25:47,076 Speaker 1: I was kind of building them, but I was recording 410 00:25:47,116 --> 00:25:50,236 Speaker 1: them one by one, Like I think to make that 411 00:25:50,356 --> 00:25:52,636 Speaker 1: record it took over a year because I would write 412 00:25:52,676 --> 00:25:55,436 Speaker 1: a song and then drive to Athens and like play 413 00:25:55,516 --> 00:25:58,476 Speaker 1: it and record it and then go back home and 414 00:25:58,636 --> 00:26:02,076 Speaker 1: start over. You have a very different sound from most 415 00:26:02,196 --> 00:26:05,436 Speaker 1: things on that label, yeah, like or in that collective? 416 00:26:05,876 --> 00:26:07,436 Speaker 1: Was you music like a weird fit in a way 417 00:26:07,516 --> 00:26:11,156 Speaker 1: for that? Or I mean I never felt like an outcast, 418 00:26:11,716 --> 00:26:13,836 Speaker 1: Like I felt like that's where I belonged at the time, 419 00:26:14,956 --> 00:26:17,676 Speaker 1: But it was also like, oh, yeah, they don't know 420 00:26:18,036 --> 00:26:21,116 Speaker 1: what to do with me like like that, like I 421 00:26:21,356 --> 00:26:24,996 Speaker 1: can't record like a whole band set up in this bedroom, 422 00:26:25,036 --> 00:26:26,876 Speaker 1: Like I have to like go somewhere else and do this. 423 00:26:27,996 --> 00:26:30,076 Speaker 1: What is it about the live band that you feel 424 00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:34,836 Speaker 1: like works for your songwriting in your performance style? Like 425 00:26:34,956 --> 00:26:37,356 Speaker 1: you never got tempted to just like write a song 426 00:26:37,476 --> 00:26:39,316 Speaker 1: and like just do a quick production in your bedroom, 427 00:26:39,596 --> 00:26:42,396 Speaker 1: right like on Ableton or something. I don't know how 428 00:26:42,436 --> 00:26:46,956 Speaker 1: to use. I literally record all my vocals on garage 429 00:26:46,996 --> 00:26:50,916 Speaker 1: band on all of my records. That's great, um, but 430 00:26:52,156 --> 00:26:54,996 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I grew up playing instruments, 431 00:26:55,036 --> 00:26:58,316 Speaker 1: so it was just like I only knew instruments like 432 00:26:58,676 --> 00:27:01,876 Speaker 1: my I love singing on ship, but it's like I 433 00:27:01,996 --> 00:27:06,156 Speaker 1: could never make this, Like I can only like build 434 00:27:06,236 --> 00:27:08,996 Speaker 1: instrument after instrument. I feel like it's kind of just 435 00:27:09,276 --> 00:27:11,836 Speaker 1: all I've known how to do, like like dip into 436 00:27:11,916 --> 00:27:13,836 Speaker 1: that world. But like then yeah, go back to You 437 00:27:13,956 --> 00:27:15,516 Speaker 1: can send me a song and I'll sing on it, 438 00:27:16,196 --> 00:27:19,636 Speaker 1: but I cannot make this unless you teach me how 439 00:27:19,676 --> 00:27:21,556 Speaker 1: to use pro tool? Can you write to someone else's song? 440 00:27:21,596 --> 00:27:23,116 Speaker 1: Like if someone sends you something and they're like, hey, 441 00:27:23,156 --> 00:27:25,156 Speaker 1: can you or do usually send you lyrics? Just like 442 00:27:25,276 --> 00:27:26,996 Speaker 1: hey sing this or will you come up with your 443 00:27:27,036 --> 00:27:29,116 Speaker 1: own home? No? Yeah, I'll write my own works. How 444 00:27:29,196 --> 00:27:31,476 Speaker 1: different is that for you than It's very different, But 445 00:27:31,556 --> 00:27:33,676 Speaker 1: I feel like that was like one of the biggest 446 00:27:33,716 --> 00:27:36,556 Speaker 1: things I also took out of being on Awful is 447 00:27:36,596 --> 00:27:38,636 Speaker 1: like just because we're in the same room together and 448 00:27:38,716 --> 00:27:40,796 Speaker 1: you happen to want to make music right now, it's 449 00:27:40,796 --> 00:27:43,156 Speaker 1: like I'm the only person in the room, so it's 450 00:27:43,156 --> 00:27:46,036 Speaker 1: like I'm on the song like just by de Vault. 451 00:27:46,756 --> 00:27:48,396 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like I just kind of learned and 452 00:27:48,516 --> 00:27:52,676 Speaker 1: like experimented that way, just like when it wasn't me 453 00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:56,756 Speaker 1: in the spotlight and like somebody wanted to just like 454 00:27:57,436 --> 00:28:00,036 Speaker 1: lend my voice or something. We'll be right back with 455 00:28:00,156 --> 00:28:07,436 Speaker 1: my conversation with Fay Webster after a quick break. We're 456 00:28:07,476 --> 00:28:10,836 Speaker 1: back with more from a Conversation with a Webster. Did 457 00:28:10,876 --> 00:28:12,836 Speaker 1: you grow up playing in a band at all? No, 458 00:28:13,236 --> 00:28:17,076 Speaker 1: I didn't. My brother did, but I did not. Have 459 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:19,196 Speaker 1: some members of your band with you today. How long 460 00:28:19,236 --> 00:28:21,836 Speaker 1: have you been playing with these guys pistol and I'm 461 00:28:21,836 --> 00:28:23,916 Speaker 1: a pedal steel player. We've been playing together for seven 462 00:28:23,996 --> 00:28:28,236 Speaker 1: years now. That's kind of how I started, Like I 463 00:28:28,356 --> 00:28:31,596 Speaker 1: feel like I was playing music and then I added 464 00:28:31,716 --> 00:28:33,756 Speaker 1: him to the band, and then from there on for 465 00:28:33,876 --> 00:28:35,516 Speaker 1: the rest of the time. It's just like who let's 466 00:28:35,596 --> 00:28:37,556 Speaker 1: play with me and pistol, Like, who, let's be in 467 00:28:37,636 --> 00:28:40,236 Speaker 1: our band? How did you guys meet? I knew I 468 00:28:40,356 --> 00:28:42,436 Speaker 1: wanted pedal steel because it's just what I grew up 469 00:28:42,476 --> 00:28:46,956 Speaker 1: listening too. And every time I said, hey, can you 470 00:28:46,996 --> 00:28:48,596 Speaker 1: help me find a pedal steel player, it was like 471 00:28:49,636 --> 00:28:54,276 Speaker 1: thirty people said the same person. There's nobody else, like like, 472 00:28:54,436 --> 00:28:56,796 Speaker 1: this is the player that you need. That's cool. Let's 473 00:28:57,036 --> 00:28:58,876 Speaker 1: have a hard time founding like a bass player, like 474 00:28:58,956 --> 00:29:01,356 Speaker 1: a drum like a good drummer, you know, but like 475 00:29:01,436 --> 00:29:04,956 Speaker 1: it's a high bar to find like a pedal steel player. Yeah, 476 00:29:05,436 --> 00:29:07,876 Speaker 1: it's like we're really going to do this if I found, 477 00:29:08,476 --> 00:29:11,196 Speaker 1: you know, right, found someone. But it's like you just 478 00:29:11,356 --> 00:29:13,916 Speaker 1: have to like wait and really find the people that 479 00:29:14,076 --> 00:29:17,196 Speaker 1: just like have the chemistry and get you and I 480 00:29:17,276 --> 00:29:19,396 Speaker 1: don't have to explain shit, like you know what I mean, 481 00:29:19,516 --> 00:29:22,476 Speaker 1: like just people that help me represent what I'm trying 482 00:29:22,516 --> 00:29:25,436 Speaker 1: to get across. Do you always play in studio and 483 00:29:25,476 --> 00:29:29,076 Speaker 1: live like the same? Yeah, crew, we always record everything live. 484 00:29:29,316 --> 00:29:31,836 Speaker 1: That's great, and then I go home and redo vocals 485 00:29:31,956 --> 00:29:38,356 Speaker 1: at my kitchen. That's so funny. What is it about 486 00:29:38,436 --> 00:29:42,156 Speaker 1: like a band that helps you write. I think it's 487 00:29:42,236 --> 00:29:45,716 Speaker 1: more just like I have this song, and I've written 488 00:29:45,756 --> 00:29:49,436 Speaker 1: this song, and it's like, how can I make the 489 00:29:49,516 --> 00:29:53,516 Speaker 1: best representation of me in this song if other people 490 00:29:53,516 --> 00:29:55,756 Speaker 1: are going to hear it? Like I truly wanted to 491 00:29:55,796 --> 00:29:58,276 Speaker 1: be the best representation it could be. So what's the 492 00:29:58,396 --> 00:30:01,316 Speaker 1: process then, Like who would you go to first? You have? 493 00:30:01,516 --> 00:30:05,236 Speaker 1: I don't show anybody until we're in the studio. I 494 00:30:05,396 --> 00:30:08,076 Speaker 1: don't share I don't even like share it with our engineer, 495 00:30:08,876 --> 00:30:10,636 Speaker 1: just because I don't want people like plotting on it 496 00:30:11,316 --> 00:30:14,556 Speaker 1: be like oh this part, like it's so good to 497 00:30:14,636 --> 00:30:17,196 Speaker 1: play something right here, and I feel like that kind 498 00:30:17,196 --> 00:30:19,836 Speaker 1: of just like ruined not ruins it, but like I 499 00:30:19,916 --> 00:30:21,516 Speaker 1: feel like in the moment is when it's more like, 500 00:30:22,596 --> 00:30:25,116 Speaker 1: oh I just played that and it sounded good, So 501 00:30:25,236 --> 00:30:28,756 Speaker 1: like let's just do that again, right, and like record 502 00:30:28,796 --> 00:30:31,556 Speaker 1: it this time please? So you want people come up 503 00:30:31,596 --> 00:30:34,676 Speaker 1: with their part. It's like on the spot, not truly reconceived, 504 00:30:34,836 --> 00:30:37,356 Speaker 1: like oh I could do this and that's interesting. It 505 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:41,676 Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot anymore. Yeah, which is I feel 506 00:30:41,676 --> 00:30:43,596 Speaker 1: like from the other side of it, like if it 507 00:30:43,716 --> 00:30:46,396 Speaker 1: wasn't my song and somebody made me come to the 508 00:30:46,516 --> 00:30:48,916 Speaker 1: studio and record on demand, I would be freaked out, 509 00:30:49,836 --> 00:30:53,156 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's nice to be the only one that 510 00:30:53,316 --> 00:30:57,596 Speaker 1: knows what's about to happen, right, going from the self 511 00:30:57,636 --> 00:31:00,716 Speaker 1: title to Atlanta Millionaires Club, What was the jump there? Like? 512 00:31:00,836 --> 00:31:03,516 Speaker 1: How did you go from those songs in that place, 513 00:31:03,956 --> 00:31:06,396 Speaker 1: putting it out through Awful and then going to like 514 00:31:07,276 --> 00:31:10,276 Speaker 1: atlant A Millionaires Club. I don't know. I feel like 515 00:31:10,316 --> 00:31:14,476 Speaker 1: it was just like a natural evolution and it's not 516 00:31:14,556 --> 00:31:18,356 Speaker 1: even that different of a record, Like I feel like 517 00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:22,836 Speaker 1: throughout my three main records, there's always a song from 518 00:31:24,156 --> 00:31:26,436 Speaker 1: the latter record that could have been on the earlier one, 519 00:31:26,876 --> 00:31:30,156 Speaker 1: but not the one too before it. Otherwise it would 520 00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:32,876 Speaker 1: have just been like this weird out of place song, 521 00:31:33,236 --> 00:31:35,916 Speaker 1: Like too quick of an evolution, I feel like. But 522 00:31:36,036 --> 00:31:37,596 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it was just like 523 00:31:37,956 --> 00:31:42,276 Speaker 1: the right time and place. I met secretly Canadian who 524 00:31:42,356 --> 00:31:44,076 Speaker 1: I love and they just like feel like family to 525 00:31:44,156 --> 00:31:47,396 Speaker 1: me at this point, and I just had more songs 526 00:31:47,436 --> 00:31:49,636 Speaker 1: and I was like cains, like, I guess it's time 527 00:31:49,636 --> 00:31:51,996 Speaker 1: to put out another record, And I feel like that's 528 00:31:52,116 --> 00:31:54,876 Speaker 1: kind of when I noticed that it wasn't just like 529 00:31:56,436 --> 00:31:59,316 Speaker 1: family listening to my stuff. Like, I feel like that's 530 00:31:59,356 --> 00:32:03,476 Speaker 1: when I kind of like got put on the radar. 531 00:32:03,916 --> 00:32:07,036 Speaker 1: It was truly the perfect time and perfect place in 532 00:32:07,156 --> 00:32:09,276 Speaker 1: my life. You were saying, how there's like always a 533 00:32:09,356 --> 00:32:11,956 Speaker 1: song like that wouldn't fit like a couple of albums ago, 534 00:32:11,996 --> 00:32:13,476 Speaker 1: but probably within the last but I feel like there's 535 00:32:13,476 --> 00:32:15,996 Speaker 1: and there's also I mean, your albums are like super very, 536 00:32:16,356 --> 00:32:19,236 Speaker 1: and there's always a song that it feels like it's 537 00:32:19,236 --> 00:32:21,956 Speaker 1: just a complete outlier just in general, you know, yeah, 538 00:32:22,156 --> 00:32:25,076 Speaker 1: like a landa Millionaire's Club, Like Flowers feels like a 539 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:26,956 Speaker 1: like a very, you know, and there's a couple even 540 00:32:26,996 --> 00:32:28,676 Speaker 1: like Kingston sounds a little different than some of the 541 00:32:28,756 --> 00:32:31,796 Speaker 1: others exactly. It's like that could have been on myself titled, 542 00:32:32,316 --> 00:32:33,876 Speaker 1: but it feels on Run and Tell, then it would 543 00:32:33,876 --> 00:32:38,236 Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, like who just hopped on the sticks? 544 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:41,236 Speaker 1: And then like on this new one too cheers. Yeah, 545 00:32:41,436 --> 00:32:43,916 Speaker 1: even Overslept sounds kind of different from the rest of 546 00:32:43,956 --> 00:32:47,516 Speaker 1: the Rapier. Yeah, could have been on AMC Like on 547 00:32:47,596 --> 00:32:49,636 Speaker 1: those songs that are kind of outliers. Do you look 548 00:32:49,676 --> 00:32:51,276 Speaker 1: to make a song that's very different from the rest 549 00:32:51,276 --> 00:32:53,636 Speaker 1: of the album, or is it just happen. It really 550 00:32:53,716 --> 00:32:57,476 Speaker 1: just happens, because I mean when I'm writing these songs 551 00:32:57,516 --> 00:33:01,356 Speaker 1: at home by myself, like they're all pretty fucking similar, 552 00:33:01,876 --> 00:33:04,716 Speaker 1: Like there's like they sound like they come out like 553 00:33:04,796 --> 00:33:06,596 Speaker 1: you was the writing them songs all right home. It's 554 00:33:06,596 --> 00:33:10,236 Speaker 1: just me being quiet as trying to write a song. 555 00:33:11,116 --> 00:33:14,156 Speaker 1: And then it's like, there's no way that my shitty 556 00:33:14,396 --> 00:33:18,356 Speaker 1: Cheers demo from my kitchen table sounds like what Cheers 557 00:33:18,436 --> 00:33:22,036 Speaker 1: sounds like. But it's just like when it was time 558 00:33:22,076 --> 00:33:24,476 Speaker 1: to like all sit together and save room and play it, 559 00:33:25,596 --> 00:33:29,036 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, like this is how it has 560 00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:30,876 Speaker 1: to sound or it's just gonna be weird. Was it 561 00:33:30,956 --> 00:33:33,396 Speaker 1: always as loud as it was? I don't remember. I 562 00:33:33,636 --> 00:33:36,716 Speaker 1: should go find the demo, but like I write songs 563 00:33:36,796 --> 00:33:39,476 Speaker 1: on an acoustic guitar at home, so it's not like 564 00:33:39,596 --> 00:33:42,316 Speaker 1: I'm like fucking rocking out. But then one and then 565 00:33:42,356 --> 00:33:43,796 Speaker 1: once you took it to the band, though, like, was 566 00:33:43,876 --> 00:33:47,476 Speaker 1: it like pretty like right away? Did it truly? Was? Really? Yeah? 567 00:33:48,556 --> 00:33:52,916 Speaker 1: I feel like that song specifically, like people were scrambling 568 00:33:53,116 --> 00:33:56,116 Speaker 1: because I started playing it. It's just like, oh, like 569 00:33:56,236 --> 00:33:59,876 Speaker 1: it should definitely sound this way. But I don't own 570 00:33:59,916 --> 00:34:02,636 Speaker 1: any cool shit. So I was just like people were 571 00:34:02,676 --> 00:34:05,156 Speaker 1: like pulling pedals out of closets and stuff because I 572 00:34:05,316 --> 00:34:07,516 Speaker 1: was like, my my guitar is just like I just 573 00:34:07,596 --> 00:34:10,716 Speaker 1: pluged straight into my amp all the time. But yeah, 574 00:34:10,836 --> 00:34:14,436 Speaker 1: just like ended up like that who cheers during the pandemic? 575 00:34:14,556 --> 00:34:16,796 Speaker 1: Oh here it is. It's called it used to be 576 00:34:16,876 --> 00:34:18,996 Speaker 1: called cheers to each other? And I was like, that's 577 00:34:19,036 --> 00:34:28,276 Speaker 1: a horrible name. This is risky bad name. Sorry, it 578 00:34:28,436 --> 00:34:40,796 Speaker 1: does kind of sound like that. It sounds exactly like 579 00:34:40,836 --> 00:34:49,356 Speaker 1: the record. Let me see that. The chorus sounds like 580 00:35:07,636 --> 00:35:11,636 Speaker 1: that sounds pretty pretty really good in your demos. It's 581 00:35:11,636 --> 00:35:14,156 Speaker 1: just like at my in my badge in my kitchen, 582 00:35:14,516 --> 00:35:18,996 Speaker 1: fucking great voice, thank you. That's crazy. Ever since I 583 00:35:19,116 --> 00:35:20,876 Speaker 1: heard the album, and I heard the song before that 584 00:35:20,876 --> 00:35:22,516 Speaker 1: albu because it came out before the album, but in 585 00:35:22,596 --> 00:35:26,636 Speaker 1: a good way. The Spanish guitar or the classical guitar, 586 00:35:26,716 --> 00:35:29,236 Speaker 1: whatever it'd be, I guess called on that song. How like, 587 00:35:29,356 --> 00:35:35,116 Speaker 1: how did that happen? Yeah? Well, I feel like when 588 00:35:35,196 --> 00:35:40,636 Speaker 1: I started to write a lot, that's when I was like, 589 00:35:40,956 --> 00:35:43,116 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna like just try and buy different 590 00:35:43,156 --> 00:35:48,236 Speaker 1: guitars because every guitar play makes me write something completely different. 591 00:35:48,676 --> 00:35:51,596 Speaker 1: Like there's songs that I just like wrote on the 592 00:35:51,676 --> 00:35:54,876 Speaker 1: classical guitar that I could have not written on my harmony, etc. 593 00:35:55,716 --> 00:35:57,556 Speaker 1: And there's also moments in the studio where it's like 594 00:35:58,836 --> 00:36:00,956 Speaker 1: the band is playing, it's like, bro, this is not 595 00:36:01,036 --> 00:36:03,556 Speaker 1: the one for the pedal steel, or like bro, this 596 00:36:03,756 --> 00:36:06,596 Speaker 1: is not the one for the worldly like and you 597 00:36:06,716 --> 00:36:07,996 Speaker 1: need to go with like you know what I mean. 598 00:36:08,076 --> 00:36:10,876 Speaker 1: Like it's just certain moments I feel like that song 599 00:36:10,956 --> 00:36:13,836 Speaker 1: specifically was like this is how I wrote it, So 600 00:36:13,916 --> 00:36:16,556 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what it like, let's switch it up. 601 00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:18,156 Speaker 1: And I feel like I didn't really switch it up 602 00:36:18,196 --> 00:36:21,836 Speaker 1: until AMC and ha ha. It was when I was 603 00:36:21,876 --> 00:36:25,676 Speaker 1: really like, let's try playing other stuff. You wrote that 604 00:36:25,756 --> 00:36:29,196 Speaker 1: song on a classical guitar. Yeah, really, And I only 605 00:36:29,316 --> 00:36:33,556 Speaker 1: had like obviously my rhythm guitar and my vocals, and 606 00:36:33,636 --> 00:36:38,516 Speaker 1: then I put like just the classical guitar, uh, like 607 00:36:39,036 --> 00:36:42,116 Speaker 1: mimicking part on my demo? Do you mind playing a 608 00:36:42,196 --> 00:36:49,076 Speaker 1: bit of a good way? Sure? I didn't know being 609 00:36:52,916 --> 00:37:14,396 Speaker 1: usual me. I didn't know good from me too. He 610 00:37:14,676 --> 00:37:18,836 Speaker 1: makes me on a crap hie on a good week. 611 00:37:21,436 --> 00:37:25,876 Speaker 1: He makes me want a crab hie on a good wine. 612 00:37:28,436 --> 00:37:33,316 Speaker 1: He makes me want a crab hie on a good week. 613 00:37:35,676 --> 00:37:40,236 Speaker 1: He makes me want a crab high on a good wine. 614 00:37:41,996 --> 00:37:48,116 Speaker 1: You ain't just as much as me, don't you. I 615 00:37:48,316 --> 00:37:57,596 Speaker 1: can feel it when we took and I know you've 616 00:37:57,676 --> 00:38:04,436 Speaker 1: been having my mind slately and I'm sorry A full 617 00:38:04,676 --> 00:38:19,756 Speaker 1: sleep food. You make me Hi good. You make me 618 00:38:20,556 --> 00:38:28,036 Speaker 1: crew Hi a good one. You make me a crew 619 00:38:28,716 --> 00:38:41,236 Speaker 1: Hi cood. You make me a crew Hi one. Fuck 620 00:38:41,796 --> 00:38:44,716 Speaker 1: this fucking nuts? And did you know you're gonna have 621 00:38:44,756 --> 00:38:46,516 Speaker 1: the feature on overslept or how it? Or did that 622 00:38:46,596 --> 00:38:48,876 Speaker 1: you wanted a feature? I just knew I wanted when 623 00:38:49,236 --> 00:38:53,196 Speaker 1: because I just like, truly cannot finish it. And I 624 00:38:53,356 --> 00:38:58,316 Speaker 1: was obsessed with me Yihara. I am obsessed though, but yeah, 625 00:38:58,316 --> 00:38:59,676 Speaker 1: I was like, if she's not on it, then, to 626 00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:02,676 Speaker 1: be honest, I'm fake. If I got anybody else on 627 00:39:02,716 --> 00:39:04,876 Speaker 1: this record right now, I'm fake. What attracts you to her? 628 00:39:04,916 --> 00:39:07,076 Speaker 1: And then also what made you? Have you heard her music? Yeah, 629 00:39:07,556 --> 00:39:10,476 Speaker 1: she's so good and I feel like the first time 630 00:39:10,516 --> 00:39:14,716 Speaker 1: I heard her, I was just like is this me? Like? 631 00:39:15,236 --> 00:39:17,916 Speaker 1: Is this me and my band playing this song I've 632 00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:21,196 Speaker 1: never heard before? Like I feel so similar to her? 633 00:39:21,636 --> 00:39:25,476 Speaker 1: But it's also like her brain thinks of stuff I 634 00:39:25,516 --> 00:39:28,356 Speaker 1: can't think of, but like that I wish I thought 635 00:39:28,396 --> 00:39:31,756 Speaker 1: of you know what I mean, Just like the instrumentation 636 00:39:31,796 --> 00:39:35,156 Speaker 1: and shit on her records are so good. Yeah, I'm 637 00:39:35,196 --> 00:39:37,676 Speaker 1: just like, fuck, I wish I thought of that. I 638 00:39:37,956 --> 00:39:44,196 Speaker 1: really appreciate, like especially in like old Western swing music, 639 00:39:44,676 --> 00:39:50,596 Speaker 1: just like the really cheesy, classic traditional duo songs. Yeah, 640 00:39:50,836 --> 00:39:52,756 Speaker 1: would you say countries like your main Like is that? 641 00:39:52,916 --> 00:39:54,876 Speaker 1: Like is that the music you listen to the most? 642 00:39:54,916 --> 00:39:58,196 Speaker 1: Would you say? Or even? But I feel like that 643 00:39:58,516 --> 00:40:03,636 Speaker 1: is like perhaps the strongest route that I have. Then 644 00:40:03,676 --> 00:40:05,396 Speaker 1: it's like from there, I'll just like add on other 645 00:40:05,476 --> 00:40:08,636 Speaker 1: shit that inspires me. I feel like it does stem 646 00:40:10,316 --> 00:40:13,036 Speaker 1: from country music. Yeah, it's funny because I never really 647 00:40:13,116 --> 00:40:16,556 Speaker 1: thought of you. But like, you know, there's like obviously 648 00:40:16,596 --> 00:40:18,236 Speaker 1: the pedal steel is kind of like a giveaway that 649 00:40:18,276 --> 00:40:20,516 Speaker 1: you're into country, but like the songs don't sound particularly 650 00:40:20,556 --> 00:40:22,996 Speaker 1: country at all. You know, there's so many different like 651 00:40:23,196 --> 00:40:25,756 Speaker 1: elements in your tracks. You know, It's like there's a 652 00:40:25,836 --> 00:40:27,716 Speaker 1: little bit of everything, and a lot of the songs, 653 00:40:27,756 --> 00:40:29,596 Speaker 1: you know, like there's a lot of R and B feel, 654 00:40:29,676 --> 00:40:30,876 Speaker 1: it's like a good R and B feel on a 655 00:40:30,956 --> 00:40:34,076 Speaker 1: lot good like folk feel some country with the pedal 656 00:40:34,156 --> 00:40:37,356 Speaker 1: steel and then even with like the adding the classical guitar, 657 00:40:37,596 --> 00:40:39,916 Speaker 1: like the doubling on the on in a good way. 658 00:40:39,956 --> 00:40:42,556 Speaker 1: It's like that sounds like a classic like ballad, you know, 659 00:40:42,676 --> 00:40:45,196 Speaker 1: like move or something, and it's like all that stuff 660 00:40:45,236 --> 00:40:47,596 Speaker 1: kind of like just collides in a really cool way. 661 00:40:47,756 --> 00:40:49,396 Speaker 1: But I didn't really think of it as like country, 662 00:40:49,476 --> 00:40:51,356 Speaker 1: like I do you when you hear songs when you 663 00:40:51,436 --> 00:40:54,356 Speaker 1: write songs? Do you almost hear them most country songs? First? 664 00:40:54,756 --> 00:40:58,676 Speaker 1: Not really, But it's just like the way that I 665 00:40:58,836 --> 00:41:03,156 Speaker 1: know format is just like country music format, and what 666 00:41:03,316 --> 00:41:05,876 Speaker 1: what do you mean? Just like even the chords that 667 00:41:05,956 --> 00:41:09,316 Speaker 1: I prefer to write with that just feel like is 668 00:41:09,316 --> 00:41:11,916 Speaker 1: a good representation of me and I just like use 669 00:41:11,996 --> 00:41:15,156 Speaker 1: them a lot or just like like I said, the 670 00:41:16,676 --> 00:41:20,596 Speaker 1: classic format of like okay versus then chords the like 671 00:41:20,756 --> 00:41:22,636 Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't know, I feel like it 672 00:41:22,716 --> 00:41:26,236 Speaker 1: definitely all does stem from just like growing up in 673 00:41:26,356 --> 00:41:28,476 Speaker 1: years and years of listening to country music. Do you 674 00:41:28,516 --> 00:41:30,436 Speaker 1: mind playing a couple of those cours just showing the 675 00:41:30,516 --> 00:41:41,436 Speaker 1: chords that you is one of my favorite chords? Just curious, 676 00:41:41,436 --> 00:41:44,116 Speaker 1: like what chords he gravitates us. See Jeff Tweedy was 677 00:41:44,156 --> 00:41:46,276 Speaker 1: talking one time about how it just naturally every time 678 00:41:46,316 --> 00:41:48,236 Speaker 1: he plays he plays a g You just like that's 679 00:41:48,236 --> 00:41:51,676 Speaker 1: just the Cordy ghost too. Really, Yeah, that's it. I've 680 00:41:51,716 --> 00:41:55,076 Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed watching Jeff play guitar every night. Also, the 681 00:41:55,316 --> 00:41:59,596 Speaker 1: first show we played with him, I was like, are 682 00:41:59,636 --> 00:42:04,196 Speaker 1: you not using in years? No? He was like, no, 683 00:42:04,356 --> 00:42:06,636 Speaker 1: if if it's not coming out of a monitor, doesn't 684 00:42:06,676 --> 00:42:09,276 Speaker 1: sound like music to me. He's that crazy. Have you 685 00:42:09,276 --> 00:42:10,996 Speaker 1: been hanging with them a lot on tour. I haven't 686 00:42:11,076 --> 00:42:13,156 Speaker 1: really been an opener in a very long time, so 687 00:42:13,236 --> 00:42:15,396 Speaker 1: I kind of forgot what it's like, what it's like, 688 00:42:16,116 --> 00:42:21,996 Speaker 1: But I really like and appreciate just like the offstage 689 00:42:23,116 --> 00:42:25,676 Speaker 1: set up that they have, Like I feel like every 690 00:42:25,836 --> 00:42:31,676 Speaker 1: venue we have played it's been like very like community space, 691 00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:35,156 Speaker 1: backstage nice, and it's just like you're always running into people. 692 00:42:35,196 --> 00:42:38,116 Speaker 1: You're always like hearing shit. Like they have a jam 693 00:42:38,276 --> 00:42:40,996 Speaker 1: room before they go on stage, and it's like that's cool. 694 00:42:41,116 --> 00:42:43,676 Speaker 1: I never thought about to warm up before, like the 695 00:42:44,036 --> 00:42:46,716 Speaker 1: jam out together on a jam ra. Yeah, it's like, dang, 696 00:42:46,916 --> 00:42:49,836 Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's so cool. Wow, have you 697 00:42:49,916 --> 00:42:53,356 Speaker 1: gone into the jam room. You know, I'm scared. I 698 00:42:53,396 --> 00:42:56,036 Speaker 1: don't want to touch their stuff. I'm like, I probably 699 00:42:56,076 --> 00:42:58,756 Speaker 1: can't afford this. I'm not gonna touch it. If I 700 00:42:58,836 --> 00:43:00,356 Speaker 1: was on tour with them, I probably just asked Nell's 701 00:43:00,396 --> 00:43:03,316 Speaker 1: climb like a thousand and one questions. Dude, Nells is 702 00:43:03,636 --> 00:43:07,836 Speaker 1: my favorite person to talk to. I told him in Vegas. 703 00:43:07,876 --> 00:43:11,436 Speaker 1: I was like, my favorite guitar player is KK Slider 704 00:43:12,276 --> 00:43:13,996 Speaker 1: And He's like, I don't know who that is. I 705 00:43:14,036 --> 00:43:15,436 Speaker 1: don't know who that is either, And I was like, 706 00:43:15,596 --> 00:43:19,236 Speaker 1: hell yeah, beat you at your own game. And the 707 00:43:19,356 --> 00:43:21,996 Speaker 1: next day he looked him up and came back and 708 00:43:22,036 --> 00:43:25,636 Speaker 1: we talked about it. It's been beautiful having you. Oh yeah, 709 00:43:25,796 --> 00:43:31,956 Speaker 1: thank you so much. This has been beautiful. Thanks to 710 00:43:32,036 --> 00:43:34,716 Speaker 1: Faye Webster for coming through Shango Law and playing for us. 711 00:43:35,276 --> 00:43:36,796 Speaker 1: You can check out a playlist of all of our 712 00:43:36,836 --> 00:43:40,636 Speaker 1: favorite Faye Webster songs at Broken Record Podcast. 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