Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, all my friends say God is cool,
Speaker 1: and I want to find out if God is cool too.
Speaker 2: I was a loser dog, you're I dropped down Mountain
Speaker 2: dew like we gotta go to church, somebody. I gotta
Speaker 2: figure out where this ship came from.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, if something, if this, if this nectar
Speaker 1: of the Gods exists, I simply must serve at his foot.
Speaker 1: The creator who made this.
Speaker 3: Kalas racist, the money turning stuff, I can't tell me.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama
Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where.
Speaker 2: We dive deep, deep, deep into the pockets of black
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove the theories
Speaker 2: that you the listener have at home.
Speaker 1: This is this is a bit of a twist of
Speaker 1: an episode because we're doing many episode shit on on
Speaker 1: a Maxi day. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maxie pads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I meant O day.
Speaker 1: You got a heavy flowsis got it?
Speaker 2: Got it? Super Max jumbos.
Speaker 1: Which makes you feel gorgeous. You wanted to hear how
Speaker 1: Jumbo it is, and boy, did your tampons delivered. I'm
Speaker 1: one of your host Legs and Kerman.
Speaker 2: And I'm your other host, David Boy, and it's just
Speaker 2: us too, and then maybe one other person ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something you and you played it smooth, baby. You
Speaker 1: brought us right into it. And that was something Olivia
Speaker 1: wanted us to mention, is that there will be times
Speaker 1: where it's just David and I for episodes, and then
Speaker 1: other times we will have more of those those wonderful
Speaker 1: guests we've had in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we nailed it. I thought that was a great
Speaker 2: implement of notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so suck that, Olivia.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't say that. I respect you as
Speaker 2: a producer, not me.
Speaker 1: Suck on it, suck on on us effectively delivering what
Speaker 1: you what you asked for. I'm excited today because I
Speaker 1: guess today's episode was originally prompted and this is why
Speaker 1: it's a mini Maxi episode. But today's episode was originally
Speaker 1: prompted by an email that I received from one of
Speaker 1: our listeners who was very excited loves the show. But
Speaker 1: before we get into that, I want to say that
Speaker 1: that and maybe it's better to just start with the email.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how we begin, and then I'll introduce the
Speaker 1: broader idea that sort of came of it. But the
Speaker 1: listener name John sent us a message. John said, peace
Speaker 1: David and Langston David. First, I like that. I wanted
Speaker 1: to share a conspiracy theory I heard not from my mama,
Speaker 1: but from her childhood friend who was later my eighth
Speaker 1: grade teacher. Since this was at a school where the
Speaker 1: teachers were tacitly allowed to whoop us like they were
Speaker 1: our mama's, I figured it would count.
Speaker 2: Damn how old is John?
Speaker 1: Yeah, John's got to be old as fuck, right.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So he's either old as fuck or from Alabama.
Speaker 2: And then say the deep deep South.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like an Arkansas kind of Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hate kids. You could just hit other
Speaker 2: people's kids in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could fuck up with stranger's kids in Arkansas,
Speaker 1: like right outside the barbershop, just being bakers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they called me, sir, I'm not going to show.
Speaker 1: He kept his he kept his hat on in my
Speaker 1: Penny candy shop.
Speaker 2: And I that child had the nerve to look me
Speaker 2: in my eyes, and I beat that out of him.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not accepting that and not in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy two.
Speaker 2: No such child, No, no, no, no, I will beat
Speaker 2: all these dirty kids ass in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I like to believe in Arkansas they still think it's
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, you know, like they don't they don't
Speaker 1: have the Internet, so they don't really know what year
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: No, they're getting ready for the by centennial down there.
Speaker 1: And what a fireworks show that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, it's that's the old fireworks before the internets.
Speaker 2: I think fireworks were better before the Internet.
Speaker 1: Oh, tell me more about this.
Speaker 2: I think all entertainment was better than the Internet. We
Speaker 2: weren't all blissed out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh, meaning like we we've seen too much shit, So
Speaker 1: now fireworks in a field ain't enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've seen like a you know, like a five
Speaker 2: way gang bang. What's firing the sky gonna do the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair you. I remember tuning into E Bomb's World.
Speaker 1: I was a big subscriber to E Bomb's World. Maybe
Speaker 1: that dates me the same age as John, but I
Speaker 1: remember there were like there was an entire like sect
Speaker 1: of E Bomb's World that was just dedicated to like
Speaker 1: drone footage murdering like people overseas like what it was
Speaker 1: just like constant like sort of like a fucking night
Speaker 1: vision Goggle footage of people getting like gunned through like
Speaker 1: from up above, from like planes and drones and shit.
Speaker 2: And that was your section.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I didn't go it just said you no, no.
Speaker 1: I liked e Bomb's world. I minded my business as
Speaker 1: far as drone footage goes. Now, if it was somebody
Speaker 1: getting kicked in the dick, your boy was over.
Speaker 2: There, that's your personal drone footage.
Speaker 1: That's don't look like a victim to me. That looks.
Speaker 2: All I see is a joke in progress.
Speaker 1: I don't feel nothing for nobody on the dig videos,
Speaker 1: the drunt footage. I feel terrible. That's is that even legal?
Speaker 1: Can you do that anymore? I can't imagine that you can,
Speaker 1: nor should you. I think all of it went real wrong.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was a kid, they used to
Speaker 2: have these videos like Banded America or whatever, and it
Speaker 2: would be like the kid we would go to the
Speaker 2: kid whose apartment, whose parents like cared the least about
Speaker 2: him for him, and then we would watch these videos
Speaker 2: and it would be like people killing people stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I I remember working at a company
Speaker 1: that my dad got me hired for a job on
Speaker 1: was was working as basically a spammer for this website
Speaker 1: called digitalfuntown dot com where I had to like promote
Speaker 1: their their very off color fucking animated videos. It was
Speaker 1: like adult animation, but it was just without good writers.
Speaker 1: So it was like a big man's in prison and
Speaker 1: he prison stabbed some squirrels, and the squirrels they're in
Speaker 1: jail too, and what and like that was the whole
Speaker 1: vibe over there. And I had to spam for them.
Speaker 1: I had to go on websites and just send out
Speaker 1: fucking blasts trying to get people to go to digitalfundown
Speaker 1: dot com. You're shaking your.
Speaker 2: Own hour, huh, like twelve an hour?
Speaker 1: It was. It was up there.
Speaker 2: It was really pretty high at the time. I mean,
Speaker 2: can I tell you this is gonna this is gonna
Speaker 2: blow your fucking mind. Uh. Oh. I used to write
Speaker 2: for ebombs. I'm completely serious, is it really? Yeah? Me
Speaker 2: and Alison Stevenson, it was.
Speaker 1: You lave me bailing for bailed for so long.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't go on the website. Oh this was
Speaker 2: this was. I was like, I was like writing their
Speaker 2: meme generate. They had meme generator software, so I had
Speaker 2: to make like ten memes every time, and then I
Speaker 2: was doing all kinds of ship. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 2: go on it ever.
Speaker 1: Oh that's smart. It didn't heal me. It didn't make
Speaker 1: me better, but.
Speaker 2: I did I did have I did make one move
Speaker 2: meme that went pretty big. It was Michael Sarah and
Speaker 2: that young pregnant white women women and it said don't
Speaker 2: be silly. You know I don't wear condom. It was
Speaker 2: my big e bombs world credit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that did numbers for you. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't go on the site, but I'm hearing good things. No,
Speaker 1: I you know you're not. I don't wear condoms, big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was that was my interest
Speaker 2: to the game.
Speaker 1: Well, I'd say all that to say that the thing
Speaker 1: that ended up happening was you go on different websites spamming.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you watch the videos. I'm watching this video of
Speaker 1: a kiddy cat and a dog playing together. They're just playing.
Speaker 1: It's harmless fun. And then it immediately switched a cut
Speaker 1: to a video of a dude getting his head sawed off.
Speaker 1: By another man. And then I just had to go
Speaker 1: to a boss and be like, hey, bro, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't do this no more. That was it that
Speaker 1: you were like, No, man, I don't think this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna keep happening for very long.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Call me when they're kicking people in the dick again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is not fun.
Speaker 2: That's awful. You had to see that at work.
Speaker 1: It was the worst day I think I've ever had
Speaker 1: that workplace.
Speaker 2: No, we're both laughing, but this is trauma for you
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't let it go. And this was many,
Speaker 1: many years ago.
Speaker 2: No, you gotta you gotta talk to somebody. That's like
Speaker 2: a bad thing that happened.
Speaker 1: I hope this cuts out and then it's online psych
Speaker 1: Yeah did you see did you see an Arab dude
Speaker 1: chomping another Arab dudes?
Speaker 2: Off work? I don't know if they were Arab.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, but you know I didn't keep
Speaker 1: the video up. I didn't finish it. It was it
Speaker 1: was pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awful, man. Well look at you now, you
Speaker 2: got a kid, You'll be all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I had no way I transferred this down
Speaker 1: to another person.
Speaker 2: No, No, you kept it all inside like a good
Speaker 2: black man.
Speaker 1: So our friend John goes on to say, one day,
Speaker 1: while we could have been learning history or social studies
Speaker 1: or anything related to the curriculum, she told us referring
Speaker 1: to this woman who used to beat him at school.
Speaker 1: She told us about how much she used to love
Speaker 1: the band Earth, Wind and Fire. Then she found out
Speaker 1: that they worshiped the devil. That was a Christian school,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure she meant it as a warning to
Speaker 1: us kids about our enjoyment of worldly music. She went
Speaker 1: on to talk about how she heard they would pray
Speaker 1: to Satan over their recordshipments whoa before they were sent out,
Speaker 1: and sacrifice an animal I think a goat to consecrate
Speaker 1: their pact and ensure good sales. I'd love to know
Speaker 1: if you heard anything similar and hear you talk about
Speaker 1: anything you learned. Love the show. Been a fan from
Speaker 1: the beginning. I've liked, subscribed, and reviewed, So please don't
Speaker 1: threaten my knees by bitch John. Well, thank you, John, Yeah, John,
Speaker 1: thank you for saying this.
Speaker 2: Wow, Man, this is so compliment because I don't want
Speaker 2: to be like I don't want to be rude to
Speaker 2: your dusty teacher ass Auntie. But that bitch is lying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Earth when and Fire being the source of Satan,
Speaker 1: feels wild. It is.
Speaker 2: Man, listen, if it was a bad group, then I
Speaker 2: would be like, Okay, granted, maybe that's it right, it's
Speaker 2: a bad group. The Devil used his power Earth Then
Speaker 2: when it's incredible, what the fuck are you talking?
Speaker 1: Millie, Millie, Millie Vanilli goes and they're secretly devil worshipers.
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: They're German already, it's right there.
Speaker 1: They didn't even sing their songs, so it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you just found shelves to take on the voice of
Speaker 1: Satan for spreading his word.
Speaker 2: But Earth Win and Fire also they're from Tuskegee, Alabama.
Speaker 2: I don't feel I feel like that's not Devil country.
Speaker 2: I've been. I've been several times.
Speaker 1: Why are you gonna do Skegee so much?
Speaker 2: My mom had a friend who grew up down there.
Speaker 2: It's a good town to go to. You can go
Speaker 2: to George Washington carference house. They have a there's a
Speaker 2: drag racing track outside the town. Yeah, you know, don't
Speaker 2: worry about why I'm in excusing I got I got
Speaker 2: roots of the point. It's like that that that that
Speaker 2: that that's who told her about the goat. That's also
Speaker 2: what I don't understand. That means they did that goat
Speaker 2: ship and somebody was like, ooh, I'm.
Speaker 1: Telling yeah, it's it's weird, like the goat in particular
Speaker 1: is like okay, So they're first of all, they're in
Speaker 1: charge of their own shipments. The Earth Winding Fire is
Speaker 1: packing up their own crates to be don't.
Speaker 2: She is going to the fucking warehouse.
Speaker 1: Vinylanol's not wait wait Linold's not in Earth Winding Fire.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm thinking about the Commodores. Yeah, they're from They're
Speaker 2: from Tuskegee. I don't know where Earth Winning Fires from.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, wherever you do dreads and shaved
Speaker 1: heads at the same time.
Speaker 2: But they're also not going they're not going to the
Speaker 2: they're all dressed like wizards. They're not in packing warehouses. No,
Speaker 2: they're not going blood everywhere. I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: And what I feel like this lady is just saying,
Speaker 2: you know what happened? Uh? Oh, I think that she
Speaker 2: got I think because it's very excitable music. I think
Speaker 2: that she maybe got too over some earth winding fire,
Speaker 2: committed some actions that she's not proud of.
Speaker 1: Oh earth wind fire and sex, and then.
Speaker 2: She yeah, water.
Speaker 1: Which is what she screamed when she came is water.
Speaker 2: Yeah? She she she yeah, I think she. I think
Speaker 2: she yeah. I think she might have given somebody some
Speaker 2: sloppy toppy or something like that.
Speaker 1: And then you know, and then felt terrible. And then
Speaker 1: she was like, that's devil music, y'alla of the devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad theory. I will say that that
Speaker 1: this was and part of where this Macro episode starts
Speaker 1: to kick in this Maxi episode, is that this conversation
Speaker 1: led me to a larger questioning, I guess, of whether
Speaker 1: or not secular music is a sin? Right? That that
Speaker 1: my mama told me secular music is a sin is
Speaker 1: really the conversation we're having at large, and do you
Speaker 1: feel that way? It's definitely something that I learned when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Like when I was like in
Speaker 1: my teens, I advocated that we go to church just
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh you yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 1: I got our family going to church.
Speaker 2: So you advocated for your family go to church, were you,
Speaker 2: So you weren't like you obviously were not afraid to
Speaker 2: go to church at that age, like you weren't fornicated
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, and this was my early teens. Don't get it wrong.
Speaker 1: I got busy pretty soon after.
Speaker 2: You didn't even.
Speaker 1: No, David, look at me. I got prissy pretty soon
Speaker 1: after let's just all be cool. I know, about a
Speaker 1: year and then I figured out that some of this
Speaker 1: felt very false. But to that, the larger thing that
Speaker 1: that sort of broke me, I guess out of my
Speaker 1: dedication to religion specifically was going to church one day
Speaker 1: and being sent to a basement for Bible study. And
Speaker 1: in that basement they played like an hour and a
Speaker 1: half long video where they accused literally every artist of
Speaker 1: being a devil worshiper, like literally everybody. There was the
Speaker 1: and literally the part that broke me. I'll never forget
Speaker 1: it is they that there was a part of the
Speaker 1: video where they were like, and now we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about John Lennon, And then they pulled up a clip
Speaker 1: of Imagine, the song Imagine where his entire purpose and
Speaker 1: the song is calling for peace amongst men, and they
Speaker 1: go this motherfucker said God ain't real and it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, bro, I think if I
Speaker 1: think this is different than what you're pitching to me.
Speaker 2: This is crazy because like, first of all, what was
Speaker 2: the timestamp? What era was this video produced? Like? Is
Speaker 2: this an eighties? Seventies?
Speaker 1: It felt like if I were to I guess it
Speaker 1: was like mid to early nineties. Okay, so they were
Speaker 1: incorporating grunge and like a lot of shit. But like
Speaker 1: for me, I wasn't. I'm not a that wasn't my
Speaker 1: shit when I was a kid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I didn't none of this music meant anything to me.
Speaker 1: But the fucking imagine it's so clearly a song about
Speaker 1: harmony that it was like I'm reading the lyrics as
Speaker 1: they're calling it devil worship that I was like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with John Lennon, but God damn this
Speaker 1: feels false.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay that is I get that. But there is
Speaker 2: other music where you're like, maybe this is from the
Speaker 2: Devil mm hmm, Like when like when the How Boys
Speaker 2: are like, I like the fucker and the ass, well
Speaker 2: he beat up the pussy, Like that's not from God?
Speaker 2: You know what? I'm saying, like, there is some music
Speaker 2: that I listen to and sometimes in my head I'm
Speaker 2: like the devil.
Speaker 1: But I guess somebody could argue, and this isn't my argument,
Speaker 1: but I'll play the game. Is that maybe God gave
Speaker 1: us all them holes. Maybe them boys are just filling
Speaker 1: holes God. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're connecting to
Speaker 1: Satan as much as making choices.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, so sex out of it. What about
Speaker 2: just like violent I'm gonna kill you music?
Speaker 1: And that's I think there are things. And truly, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I have a hard formed opinion about
Speaker 1: sin or not sin or whatever the fuck it is.
Speaker 1: But I do think that there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: artists who who know that devil worshiping is a thing,
Speaker 1: and they play into the shit because that's that's part
Speaker 1: of the fun.
Speaker 2: I guess that's part of the good time. I worry
Speaker 2: more about idolatry than devil worshiping, at least if we're
Speaker 2: talking about Black Guard.
Speaker 1: Is mm hm, say more about that, like sense like
Speaker 1: us idolizing them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like you know, commitment of life to
Speaker 2: the pursuit of money and material wealth and designer and
Speaker 2: all these things. It does come off as worship. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like the idea of the
Speaker 2: of like designer being used as currency and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: so that I would worry about, but like directly developed,
Speaker 2: directly worshiping the devil is a heavy line.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. I think there's a to me that feels
Speaker 1: more like uh, what you're describing ego and sort of
Speaker 1: like toxicity that sort of consumption and capitalism does to
Speaker 1: all of us. But it doesn't feel like they're like
Speaker 1: burning fucking candles in their like you know, living room
Speaker 1: and being like love you devil, and then going and
Speaker 1: performing at their shows. You know what I mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: which one is worse than also? I honestly I would
Speaker 1: rather you commit to the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather you just wear some horns, go down
Speaker 2: to the warehouse. Kill a goat than like.
Speaker 1: A leather vest. Yeah, kill a goat.
Speaker 2: I want you to dress up like a black Hebrew Israelite,
Speaker 2: but fun but fun, fun like.
Speaker 1: Colors, go kill a goat and then sing September.
Speaker 2: It's worth it. Then it's worth it. Then I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid of the devil like that. Maybe I should chill.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was a statement. If I've ever heard one,
Speaker 1: are you? I don't. I'm I'm afraid of people who
Speaker 1: really like them. Yeah, I genuinely am.
Speaker 2: I see it in your face.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of those where it's like
Speaker 1: I beat a devil worshipers.
Speaker 2: Ass.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I think whatever they like
Speaker 1: makes them like have a weird strength that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm gonna go tell for toe
Speaker 1: with so nah, they make me uncomfortable for sure.
Speaker 2: I've never met one that wasn't skinny, first of all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that scares me more. Oh you okay, because you
Speaker 1: know it's like we all know skinny motherfuckers who can
Speaker 1: secretly fight. And you're like, why true, you ain't got
Speaker 1: no muscles?
Speaker 2: How is this? And that is true? Like I have
Speaker 2: seen scared. I knew a few skinny guys who like
Speaker 2: almost like they're possessed. Uh huh, okay, that's fair. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: what is the devil effort? Like, you know, what have
Speaker 2: you done for me lately?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, man, you're missing the old devil.
Speaker 2: I missed, I mean I missed like a concrete enemy.
Speaker 2: I feel like the new new school Devil. What a
Speaker 2: bunch of white ladies got crystals in their titties. That's
Speaker 2: I'm scared of that. That's fair. I will say new
Speaker 2: school Devil feels much closer to Troll. An effective leader,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't see him. I don't
Speaker 2: see him galvanizing the people to like, what, like, what
Speaker 2: major moves have you made, Devil.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it sounds like you calling the
Speaker 1: devil out and I'm excited to see where it lands.
Speaker 1: I'm not not damn you heard it here first, Devil
Speaker 1: versus David Bori.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I stuck up for that guy
Speaker 2: a lot and he never really did anything for me.
Speaker 1: A fight to win it all, and apparently there's a
Speaker 1: backstory that will cover eventually because because he stuck up
Speaker 1: for you, Devil, and you're you're going down, buddy, I
Speaker 1: got you. Well, we're gonna take a break. I think
Speaker 1: that's the most appropriate way to end this. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back with more, David boy
Speaker 1: And my mama told me we are.
Speaker 3: I'm not gay, no more, I am deserving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're back here with more, David Bori more. My
Speaker 1: mama told me we're still talking about the possibility that
Speaker 1: that secular music, the music of the everyday man, is
Speaker 1: sinful and and harmful to God. Are they hurting God?
Speaker 1: Is that the fear?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that we hurt God when we turn
Speaker 2: away from him. So I guess, like technically right, because
Speaker 2: the devil is all about temptation, is the whole thing, right?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this this big thing is trying to tempt
Speaker 1: us into I guess, turning our backs on God, be
Speaker 1: it temporarily or permanently. Yeah, So I guess God don't
Speaker 1: like seeing you back.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's like a It's like the way I
Speaker 2: treat kids in Arkansas, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: would be asked, I'll hit you close fisted like a man.
Speaker 1: So I, upon hearing this earth winding fire Satanism question,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to John's original question about
Speaker 1: earth winding fire. I did, in fact do some research,
Speaker 1: and specifically I stumbled into a forty five minute Facebook
Speaker 1: documentary called satan.
Speaker 2: Document That's just a video a dude put up.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no. They They had two different interviews,
Speaker 1: one of which was with a brother named uh watchman
Speaker 1: Yahoo Israel and uh yah yeah yeah, y a h u.
Speaker 1: And I'm probably not Yahoo, but it's Yahoo.
Speaker 2: That's the only way I would respect it if it
Speaker 2: was yho Oh, I'm not going Noah first name Watchman.
Speaker 2: You're fine with that? Yeah, yeah, I got I get yeah,
Speaker 2: it happens. But Yahoo's gotta be get your right.
Speaker 1: But he produced this along with a woman who, despite
Speaker 1: introducing himself at every interview segment of his own, he
Speaker 1: never introduces hers. Is like a much grainier footage that
Speaker 1: they film in a park. He's in like a full
Speaker 1: studio setup, and they never even mentioned who the fuck
Speaker 1: this bitch is for forty five minutes. And yes, you,
Speaker 1: god damn right, I watched all forty five minutes of
Speaker 1: this shit.
Speaker 2: Can you do you have a clip? You gotta show
Speaker 2: me a clip.
Speaker 1: I absolutely have a clip. But I couldn't wait for
Speaker 1: you to ask that question. Let me pull up some
Speaker 1: of my favorite moments from thing.
Speaker 2: Self produced.
Speaker 1: Right, it's absolutely self producing, And that won't even be
Speaker 1: a question you'll have to ask. Shortly, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: it and you'll know without a doubt that this is
Speaker 1: self produced.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm excited as hell.
Speaker 1: So first of all, I want to play a clip.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2: Huh, white it out series? Oh they got okay, there's
Speaker 2: a series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all the series. Make that ship big, yeah,
Speaker 1: blow it up and listen to how the narrator sounds.
Speaker 1: This is this is the reason we're watching here.
Speaker 5: As you see in the previous episode, how Satan, being
Speaker 5: a minister of music, has chosen musicians, singers, and entertainers
Speaker 5: to be his music topic, his wicked messages and doctrines
Speaker 5: throughout the world.
Speaker 1: Just from from that uh, twilight gorge has.
Speaker 5: Always been a form of worship since the beginning.
Speaker 1: Because there's absolutely no way Rick James was a devil worshiper.
Speaker 2: What okay, now you're there's no way he was not.
Speaker 1: No, get out of here, Rick James wasn't worshiping the Devil.
Speaker 1: Rick James illicit substances.
Speaker 2: He was slow New York's for Carlo James.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that motherfucker was not worshiping the Devil.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You mean Eddie Murphy's key collaborator is worshiping the devil.
Speaker 2: Key collaborator is a boot.
Speaker 1: You telling me he didn't make that song.
Speaker 2: He turned some knobs in the video. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: that I saw it. I think he provided a bunch
Speaker 2: of cocaine. I listened. I think he listened to Eddie
Speaker 2: Murphy vent about how his girl likes to party all
Speaker 2: the time and said, maybe you should write that down.
Speaker 1: And and so you're saying that whole time. He was like,
Speaker 1: you should write that down for sake.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I just I feel like Rick James was
Speaker 2: wild that I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. Also, Sammy
Speaker 2: Davis Junior worshiped the devil.
Speaker 1: Go on, is there any evidence behind this or is this.
Speaker 2: There's a clip of Eddie Murphy talking about it on
Speaker 2: Comedians and Cars with getting coffee.
Speaker 1: I like how you played this game, because you're down
Speaker 1: saying if I'm gonna use Eddie Murphy as evidence, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna use Eddie Murphy as evidence, which then either
Speaker 1: forces me to refute my own Eddie Murphy evidence or
Speaker 1: support yours.
Speaker 2: Listen, all I'm saying, I play you know, shoot a
Speaker 2: shoot I it's really a jugglo video. This is terrible.
Speaker 1: So this video, again forty five minutes on. This narrator
Speaker 1: is not the person that is sort of leading the charge.
Speaker 1: This dude Yahoo Israel is the main excuse me, watchman
Speaker 1: Yahoo Israel is the main dude pushing the charge. And
Speaker 1: then that lady he won't ever introduce. But throughout the
Speaker 1: video he goes into like this long thing about how
Speaker 1: he used to fuck with or.
Speaker 2: Earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 1: He supported them, and it wasn't until he really started
Speaker 1: digging into their messaging that he realized that they were
Speaker 1: of the devil, that they were out here spreading Satan's word.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need a clip of like a synopsis or something. Oh,
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to see it. My favorite
Speaker 2: part of this before we press play on it, my
Speaker 2: absolute that's the lady he won't introduce. My favorite part.
Speaker 1: Of this clip is the point in which he after
Speaker 1: he starts to really feel like he's digging into a point,
Speaker 1: he just starts yelling stuff like emphatically at the camera
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a moment of him losing his
Speaker 1: mind at this information.
Speaker 6: In nineteen seventy four, Sun Goddess rose to five twenty
Speaker 6: and forty four on the US Disco R and B
Speaker 6: and Hot one hundred Singles charts, respectively. It was Lewis's
Speaker 6: biggest hit since the in Crowd. Earth Wind and Fire
Speaker 6: also recorded a live version of the song for their
Speaker 6: Gratitude LP in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 7: Sun Goddess Some Worship. This is exactly what they were
Speaker 7: pushing in their music, Sun worship, worship of the Sun,
Speaker 7: which is one of the oldest sins in descriptions, because
Speaker 7: they tell you that even Judah at web time and
Speaker 7: pray to the Sun, so worship.
Speaker 1: Sun goddesses.
Speaker 2: To his sugars. Are his sugars are up ebody.
Speaker 1: Imagine getting that mad at Earth whin in Fire where
Speaker 1: you're listening to their lyrics and first of all, all
Speaker 1: these claiming, all he's suggesting is that they're saying worship
Speaker 1: the Sun God instead of Jesus Christ. Like that's what
Speaker 1: he claims, is the devil worshiping inside.
Speaker 2: Of this, So this is it's all just hardcore Christianity,
Speaker 2: that's his old thing.
Speaker 1: Well, he's saying like they're they're asking us to go
Speaker 1: towards false idols and subsequently in doing that, that's like
Speaker 1: basically Satan's biggest coolest trick is getting us to worship
Speaker 1: someone that isn't Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't know what to make of this.
Speaker 2: I love his passion, can I say that like I
Speaker 2: appreciate he's sick.
Speaker 1: Man. I want to believe he does this for every
Speaker 1: single Earthwind Empire.
Speaker 2: So you're just sitting.
Speaker 1: There like electric Bogle Loo boogle Loo Wonderland?
Speaker 2: What also? Because and I've always wondered this, all right,
Speaker 2: if it's why is it always the music? Why doesn't
Speaker 2: God have any good musics on his side? Then? Mmm?
Speaker 2: Don't you wonder that? What?
Speaker 1: Why God doesn't? I mean he's got some oh right,
Speaker 1: because like oh yeah, that's worth noting that that this series,
Speaker 1: it is a series and the other episodes circle around
Speaker 1: Prince and Parliament Funkadelic. So he ain't fucking like you said,
Speaker 1: he ain't fucking within No, God ain't got no good
Speaker 1: artists on his side.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm that. I mean, he's got like the.
Speaker 1: Mmmm right right?
Speaker 2: Ah? What's uh Whitney Houston's mom, Sissy Houston? Uh huh ah.
Speaker 2: I feel like Ray Charles was on his side.
Speaker 1: Ray Charles did Heroin.
Speaker 2: He's like, you get you Heroin and love God.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Ray Charles, Here's what I'll
Speaker 1: say I think Ray Charles loved Heroin more then God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end, not at the end, man through most
Speaker 1: of his life.
Speaker 2: Wait, damn what Here's what's crazy to me. By the
Speaker 2: way I say, I say, you know, I don't think
Speaker 2: all music is from God because I like to fuck
Speaker 2: her in the house while he beat up to pussy.
Speaker 2: And you're like, well, that could be anything but Heroin.
Speaker 2: That's the line. You can feel I'm sad at once
Speaker 2: and be a child of God, but you can't shoot
Speaker 2: up a little bit of Heroin.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was my argument, and I and
Speaker 1: I I'd roll back the tape if I knew how
Speaker 1: to do that. My argument wasn't that they are children
Speaker 1: of God. There was no I wasn't sitting there being like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a child of God. Juvie Juvie is
Speaker 1: a child of God. That wasn't my point. My point
Speaker 1: was only that he was sharing holes with his friends,
Speaker 1: not to serve at Satan's footsteps.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you but shooting up is Satan. I feel it.
Speaker 2: It's the same activity.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I I think that's a fair point that
Speaker 1: I'm willing to concede on that maybe I'm being a
Speaker 1: little generous when I differentiate between heroin and a tag
Speaker 1: team with your closest buddies.
Speaker 2: Or is just some guy you met it, doesn't you know?
Speaker 2: I don't know? All right? Fair enough?
Speaker 1: I thought I thought in the song he was implying
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it with BEG and they have more
Speaker 1: than just a passing friendship.
Speaker 2: Right, man? Could you imagine walking in on that.
Speaker 1: Just two of the most talented hideous men sharing one lady?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Where did she go? After that? You gotta
Speaker 2: go and like, what do you? What do you do?
Speaker 2: Right after you got tag team by JUVII and BG.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I hope somewhere, I hope somewhere is special. I hope
Speaker 1: like a good movie.
Speaker 2: No, I bet you went. I hope it's like Golden Crowd,
Speaker 2: like just decompressed. It's like, sit down, get you some
Speaker 2: chocolate milk, and really think about what's been going on?
Speaker 1: Like what got me here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How did I end up this way?
Speaker 4: Oh man?
Speaker 1: So the documentary is another You've only seen a couple
Speaker 1: minutes of it, but it's it's forty five minutes long.
Speaker 1: They they mostly even the Facebook comments are mostly people
Speaker 1: calling them stupid and weird for spending this much time
Speaker 1: on it. And obviously these claims of devil worshiping are
Speaker 1: not limited to just earth wind and fire, right Like,
Speaker 1: there are so many other groups and people you already
Speaker 1: pointed to, like the Hot Boys, fucking John Lennon, the Beatles,
Speaker 1: God damn it, Hotel California. When I was looking this
Speaker 1: shit up, apparently it is a song that is meant
Speaker 1: to have satan lyrics when you play it backwards. That
Speaker 1: if you do that, that that back thing that that
Speaker 1: white people out really excited about in the seventies sixty seventies.
Speaker 2: I believe in that they do believe in backwards records.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called back masking. Apparently, that's the technical term
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: I use that term for something completely different.
Speaker 1: You have the devil man, and I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: People don't say that often enough. They don't go you
Speaker 1: have the devil and.
Speaker 2: Good it felt good good. Here's my question, is there
Speaker 2: any is there?
Speaker 1: I want?
Speaker 2: I want because this is such a major claim, Is
Speaker 2: there any major proof? Like, is there ever? Did you
Speaker 2: find anything in all of your research where you were like, well,
Speaker 2: that seems like actually a good point. They could be
Speaker 2: for the devil.
Speaker 1: I will say that there were there are people that
Speaker 1: they bring up where it's like, don't be silly, like
Speaker 1: the whole hotel the Eagles are are hiding. They claim
Speaker 1: they're hiding. Yes, Satan organized his own religion or Satan.
Speaker 1: He hears this. He had me believe in him in
Speaker 1: their music, and it's like, shut the fuck up. No, No,
Speaker 1: they didn't.
Speaker 2: Seems like too much work, I mean. And it's also
Speaker 2: like you don't have to hide it. You could say
Speaker 2: it like they said, I like the fuck her in
Speaker 2: the ass while he beat up the They just said it.
Speaker 2: The market is wide open. You could just be saying
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, you don't have to hide it in a
Speaker 1: fucking turntable somewhere.
Speaker 2: Because what kind of a fucking loser is listen to
Speaker 2: that song backwards anyways?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking dueves. Yeah what what girl did you invite
Speaker 1: over that wants you to play it backwards?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know how how I get laid. I
Speaker 2: play fucking rock music backwards.
Speaker 1: And then we get scared a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a penny dropper every time.
Speaker 1: So so obviously stuff like that feels very like I
Speaker 1: you shut up, This isn't a thing. But then there's
Speaker 1: other example where it's like there's a song from Slayer
Speaker 1: if you're familiar at all with Slayer called hell Waits
Speaker 1: or hell Awaits, and it's like, well, yeah, they hid
Speaker 1: messages and that shiit.
Speaker 2: What's the message by another Slayer album?
Speaker 1: But no, I think they're they're feeding into the character.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like they're doing fucking
Speaker 1: the character. Is literally you eating devil pussy and shit
Speaker 1: on on your album covers.
Speaker 2: I think that that's only for angels. Ah, I don't even.
Speaker 2: I Also, this whole shit is crazy to me too,
Speaker 2: because like, what's the allure of worship being the devil?
Speaker 1: I think that he'll he'll he'll bring your greatest desires
Speaker 1: to come true. I'm basing this all off the movie
Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate. You've seen that, Oh yeah, and al Pacino
Speaker 1: being his dad for some reason?
Speaker 2: Is that? But isn't that what God's supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess. But God's is like a slower drip,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? God is microdos and your
Speaker 1: your greatest dreams. What the Devil's offering is a big hit.
Speaker 2: Oh, because the devil give you like a one shot,
Speaker 2: like I'll give you a hit single. God will give
Speaker 2: you like a family that loves you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then and the inspiration to write the single,
Speaker 1: should you so choose?
Speaker 2: Right? So then I yeah, I don't understand you. So
Speaker 2: you just picked the devil because.
Speaker 1: You're lazy it seems that way, or at least you
Speaker 1: you really are mad at God about something else, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like if God took my foot,
Speaker 1: I probably would start to at least consider what the
Speaker 1: devil's got to say.
Speaker 2: That's all it takes.
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, that's that's about would start.
Speaker 2: You're an easy flip. No wonder why you didn't last long.
Speaker 1: Your boy loves the jog.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Don't take that foot from me.
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand. I wait, do you believe in God?
Speaker 1: Though? I think I believe that we didn't just create ourselves.
Speaker 2: I don't think that this is an even scientists talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, sure, as I said, it didn't feel like the
Speaker 1: smartest thing I had said all day, but you really
Speaker 1: zeroed in on it, and I respect that.
Speaker 2: Josey. Sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is I believe that we
Speaker 1: didn't just like walk out of some ooze as like
Speaker 1: these these fully formed whatever that said. I do think
Speaker 1: that that ooz or whatever created it or or what
Speaker 1: formed humanity, because I do believe the ooh's part of it, right,
Speaker 1: Just I don't believe that that was like completely independent
Speaker 1: of a greater being imagining whatever. I don't know that
Speaker 1: that being takes any form that we've ever like presented
Speaker 1: it as you.
Speaker 2: I guess my question is, do you believe that there
Speaker 2: is a supreme being, one who loved's over good and
Speaker 2: one who lords over evil.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't necessarily know that. I believe
Speaker 1: in the binary good and evil well enough to know
Speaker 1: that they're lording over it in that way.
Speaker 2: That's the most serial killer answer you could have had.
Speaker 1: Fuck, Okay, there's good guys and there's bad guys.
Speaker 2: A clear line.
Speaker 1: No one's ever done anything on the other side of
Speaker 1: the line that doesn't match their personality. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you believe in God? Are you a god man? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I believe in intelligent designs somewhat. I don't think that
Speaker 2: we got it right, Like I don't believe a lot
Speaker 2: of Bible shit, I don't believe that there was a.
Speaker 1: Flood, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't really that. That doesn't make a
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1: I think a bunch of motherfuckers were good storytellers and
Speaker 1: we're we're real bought in on the stories. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think humans figured it out.
Speaker 2: There's not even that many other stories. It's like if
Speaker 2: you look at Christianity and then you look at like Xastionism,
Speaker 2: pretty similar, completely different time periods, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, I don't, I don't believe in that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, there could be something up there.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the devil a shrug and then
Speaker 1: checks for his phone. I love.
Speaker 2: Because now I'm worried that, like something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: God's just sending you a message like hey, bro, you
Speaker 1: fucked up, man. Yeah you asked to fight. You asked
Speaker 1: to fight Satan early, and I was like, yo, okay,
Speaker 1: I fuck with this dude, but then you denounced me.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I worry that if he, if there isn't real God,
Speaker 2: he's gonna send me back to work in the car wash.
Speaker 2: That's like my big fear in life for anything.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I mean, it's a fair fear, bro.
Speaker 2: They got you in there. You gotta wash rims with
Speaker 2: a toothbrush. It's like terrible. Oh ship, Yeah, I felt
Speaker 2: like slavery.
Speaker 1: You were at a very specific car wash though, Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah you were. They were. They were trying to class
Speaker 1: up the car wash experience because I've gotten my car
Speaker 1: washed fair amount and I've never seen a motherfucker with
Speaker 1: a toothbrush go to any of my knooks or crannies.
Speaker 2: That makes you sorry for you.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't believe in God, because there's
Speaker 1: no toothbrushes, and mynooks are my grannies in.
Speaker 2: Fact, cranny free, cranny free, toothbrush free cranny. No Jesus,
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. All right, we're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more David Boria more.
Speaker 2: My mama told me, oh, I found the clip too,
Speaker 2: what's the clip? Bedie Murphy talking about Sammy Davis ju.
Speaker 1: Sammy told me he worshiped the devil.
Speaker 4: We were in uh d'An tannis on that restaurant with
Speaker 4: all the pictures of it. Sammy was like, you know,
Speaker 4: Satan is as powerful as God.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what talking about?
Speaker 4: Why do you think there's so much anger in the
Speaker 4: world and killing and murder and the Shatan? And he
Speaker 4: saw my reaction to it and kind of lightened up
Speaker 4: on it and he was like that, Dan, Tanna is
Speaker 4: dark and it's the candles on the table and Sammy's
Speaker 4: face over the candle. You know, Shatan is as powerful
Speaker 4: as God.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean if that's that it, why
Speaker 1: would he lie about that?
Speaker 2: That's too specific? That's too specific, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Satan is as powerful as God. And then
Speaker 1: he didn't have a fri and he was like, huh,
Speaker 1: what not, I'm.
Speaker 2: Playing No, I just kidd.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get back in the stand up.
Speaker 2: But if somebody as powerful as Sammy Davis Junior, because
Speaker 2: he was powerful, right, he was pretty powerful. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: that makes me think and it's like he was pretty
Speaker 2: powerful and it's not that's not like a well known thing.
Speaker 2: So it makes me think, is there like a crew
Speaker 2: of people who worship the devil behind the scenes?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: And that goes back to if there was ever an
Speaker 2: industry that I've observed, which basically it's just too car
Speaker 2: washing entertainment, if there was ever a place where something
Speaker 2: like that could thrive behind closed doors, I do think
Speaker 2: entertainment would be a place where that could happen.
Speaker 1: Right, because of how many things we naturally do that
Speaker 1: are sort of like hidden in secrecy and illusion.
Speaker 2: And things like and things like like like like scientology
Speaker 2: and things like that, Like there is like levels of
Speaker 2: that type or like when Kabbala swept through Hollywood, like
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry is prone to having things like that affected.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I guess my question for you is,
Speaker 1: do you then, because you're saying like you believe in
Speaker 1: intelligent design, you don't think that it's necessarily taking the
Speaker 1: form that we're presenting it. We're similar in that way.
Speaker 1: Do you then still believe in the devil? Are you
Speaker 1: like yo, but the Devil's realist? Fuck?
Speaker 2: No, because it's like, you know, you gotta have white
Speaker 2: to have black or whatever. So no, I don't. I
Speaker 2: guess I believe because I also have a very strong
Speaker 2: feeling that it's like dangerous to make your own god
Speaker 2: like completely. I think that kind of fucks people up
Speaker 2: a lot of times. But I do think that like
Speaker 2: if there is a higher power. I see it as
Speaker 2: being more kind of ambivalent to the left or the like.
Speaker 2: I don't see it being as supreme. I don't see
Speaker 2: whatever the designer is is being supreme good so that
Speaker 2: there's no reason for supreme evil.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel similarly, and it does feel crazy, I guess.
Speaker 1: And this is where the question goes, is why if
Speaker 1: our theory, if what you're presenting potentially is true, that
Speaker 1: like this is much more of like a neutral god
Speaker 1: who isn't choosing between good and bad, but merely just
Speaker 1: showing humanity as it is reflecting back at itself. Right,
Speaker 1: If that is possible, then why the devil? For all
Speaker 1: these individuals? What is the devil in fact meant to
Speaker 1: do for them if they're investing?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I think the devil it
Speaker 2: to me, it seems like the devil is supposed to symbolize,
Speaker 2: like you were saying before, like a quick fix. It's
Speaker 2: supposed to be like the antithesis of like hard work
Speaker 2: and earning it. So I feel like on a moral level,
Speaker 2: it's more like even if you're even if you're not
Speaker 2: saying even like the devil is just like a stand
Speaker 2: in for like loose morals and ethics, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, so the Devil is more like a concise mission
Speaker 1: statement relating to much more fucked up shit, right, And
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: It's I think it more stands for like the idea
Speaker 2: of not having disciplined in your life or whatever. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got you. It's like, ah, yeah, I share holes
Speaker 1: with my boys, and I'll wake up at a reasonable
Speaker 1: hour exact worship the Devil exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not I'm not doing I'm not waking
Speaker 2: every day with a up every day with a purpose.
Speaker 2: I'm not dedicated to anything, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I won't. I don't work hard. I think that's all
Speaker 2: the Devil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to that point. One of the things
Speaker 1: that always surprises me with the music, specifically the music
Speaker 1: being played backwards, is that the Devil's never putting like
Speaker 1: a message in that's really like a fucking crazy message,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like it's always like
Speaker 1: Satan's real that that's the big message. Yea, that they're
Speaker 1: slipping into this shit is like Satan, He's alive, And
Speaker 1: it's like I okay, cool man, Like you're not I'm
Speaker 1: not learning anything. It's not like Satan believes in you
Speaker 1: and wants to talk to you about repairing your relationship
Speaker 1: with your family members.
Speaker 2: It's just like or even like go kill your parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never that active and so way. It feels like,
Speaker 1: to your your point, just dumb dumbs trying to make
Speaker 1: a quick fix more than actually them having figured out
Speaker 1: the exact articulation of like this is how we we
Speaker 1: get into the minds of the youth and destroy God.
Speaker 2: Right, right, No, I don't. I don't think that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, if the devil is real, it can't
Speaker 2: be these passive messages. It's twenty twenty two. The kids
Speaker 2: are Internet savvy. Everyone's media trains. You have to have
Speaker 2: like a pointed direction about your ship. You can't just
Speaker 2: be out here saying you exist. That's not gonna get
Speaker 2: it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotta be the Satan, like Lucifer says, killed
Speaker 1: the President on Thursday, needs to be in the music
Speaker 1: for me to believe.
Speaker 2: That this is true, Like, right, Satan is shit, right,
Speaker 2: like NFTs are mine like shit like that, Like he's
Speaker 2: gotta lie.
Speaker 1: He's just bragging, he's like that shit. Yeah, I made
Speaker 1: you buy pictures that you could just have, you dumb bitch.
Speaker 2: That's me. You think, why wan say, bitch?
Speaker 1: Do you think Satan doesn't cuss? He's like real clean.
Speaker 2: I think that he's almost so smooth he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have to whoa. That feels like what Will Smith got
Speaker 1: told before he started rapping, You know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 1: You know the best rapper is so smooth he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to cuts. And Will was like hell yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, because I always like and this is and this
Speaker 2: is something about me. I've always assumed that if the
Speaker 2: Devil were real, I would be very susceptible, like and
Speaker 2: I always think, who would turn me? Like somebody really smooth? Like,
Speaker 2: who's that guy? Not Uncle el Roy? Who's that actor?
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's.
Speaker 1: Got like the deep voice ving rings?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he was the guy with that
Speaker 2: he was in Uh he was Kirby Kirby in Dead Presidents.
Speaker 2: Oh ship, hold on, I'm looking at looking him up.
Speaker 1: You're not talking about the All State guy, are you?
Speaker 2: No? No, I met him once. Didn't feel like the devil.
Speaker 1: Oh are you talking about the dude? David Keith? David
Speaker 1: David George to me, who seems like the devil, right,
Speaker 1: And Keith David doesn't seem like he has to cuts.
Speaker 2: He just kind of yeah, he's just kind of smooth
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just kidding. But also doesn't he seem like
Speaker 1: that's what the devil would look like? Hey, No, he's
Speaker 1: got Keith David. And I'm a big fan. But he's
Speaker 1: got an evil fucking face.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a huge fan. That's why I like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a goddamn devil's face if I've ever
Speaker 1: seen one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy looks like he could, like he could
Speaker 2: just say some wild like you would walk into a
Speaker 2: room and it would be just him and he's got
Speaker 2: like some brandy and he would just say some crazy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Keith David.
Speaker 1: And you're lucky if it's Satanism, because it might just
Speaker 1: be him like scatting at you and you're like, this
Speaker 1: is this is so much scarier Keith David.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be alone with Keith David, regardless of what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So the last little bit that I'll bring up in
Speaker 1: all of this, it got me thinking about more contemporary examples, right,
Speaker 1: because if we're talking about Slayer. We're talking about John Lennon, Earth,
Speaker 1: Wind and Fire, all these different groups.
Speaker 2: You should be talking about John Legend.
Speaker 1: John Legend, And we're talking about not cheating John Legend.
Speaker 1: Not that early shit where he was constantly cheating on
Speaker 1: his girls. No loving John Legend, civil rights activist, John Legend.
Speaker 2: Sexiest man, People's Sexiest man Alive, John Legend.
Speaker 1: Sexiest mouse Alive. John Legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit was a sham.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It made me maybe stop believing
Speaker 1: in anything. It was who who says? I never heard
Speaker 1: that from him.
Speaker 2: No, there was like a short John bat singer who's
Speaker 2: not known for being sexy, that's already maybe the devil's work.
Speaker 1: There was like a short window where he had like
Speaker 1: started working out and got like a haircut, and every
Speaker 1: girl was like, god damn John John Legend is sexy.
Speaker 1: But that was like twelve years ago, and he was
Speaker 1: He didn't have Christy Tigan, he didn't have kids yet.
Speaker 1: It was truly like a fucking brief blip in in
Speaker 1: our in our giant universe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember sexy John Legend. I always
Speaker 2: remember assistant Principal ass John Legend.
Speaker 1: Oh sweater vest John Legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's when he was cheating on on everybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean maybe that was maybe that was sexy.
Speaker 2: I can't tell, I can't. I just he doesn't seem
Speaker 2: sexy to me. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: Look up John Legend sexy. There there's pictures of him
Speaker 1: with coum gutters. He got them them cum gutters.
Speaker 2: I think Keith David is sexier.
Speaker 1: Than I'm not arguing against that.
Speaker 2: I think he does. Got the d'angelo's out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, but again those are twelve years ago pictures.
Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't contemporary shit, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I got you, I got you. I don't
Speaker 2: like this at all.
Speaker 1: You gotta delete that from your arch history.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So, one of the things that got me thinking about
Speaker 1: is some of the more contemporary examples, and one of
Speaker 1: the first people that came to mind for me was
Speaker 1: Travis Scott. Right, Travis Scott is somebody who is constantly
Speaker 1: being sort of like associated, whether intentionally or unintentionally, with
Speaker 1: like the devil and Satanism and shit.
Speaker 2: Right. He also seems like the kind of guy who
Speaker 2: would he feels like he would dabble in that mm hmm,
Speaker 2: just because he seems like kind of like a I
Speaker 2: don't so, what what did you find about Travis Scott?
Speaker 2: Did you find anything?
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that I did find was
Speaker 1: that there were a lot of people accusing him, specifically
Speaker 1: around the Astro World catastrophe right of this festival where
Speaker 1: people died because he kept performing or not because because
Speaker 1: it was overcrowded, yeah, and because people were not responsible
Speaker 1: about making sure that there was like safety protocols put
Speaker 1: in place, and then he kept performing while these safety
Speaker 1: protocols sort of had fallen, which people then put on
Speaker 1: him as his responsibility, whether right or wrong, who knows
Speaker 1: either way. There's like a big TikTok sub sect much
Speaker 1: like Ebomb's world, where they are very adamant that he
Speaker 1: was doing some demonic shit intentionally that day that like
Speaker 1: his stage apparently was shaped like a crooked, upside down crucifix,
Speaker 1: which was meant to be a pathway from Satan from
Speaker 1: Hell to like Earth that he was introducing. He was
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt apparently that had people walking through a
Speaker 1: doorway where they like pass through the doorway and then
Speaker 1: have horns on the other side. And then there was
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, videos obviously of him like
Speaker 1: sort of like staring very sort of dead eyed at
Speaker 1: people as they're being ambulanced out or dragged out of
Speaker 1: the concert while it's happening.
Speaker 2: All right, I want to say this is very careful.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm listening. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Here is this that goes back to this point of
Speaker 2: then the devil is weak as hell. All that all
Speaker 2: that million dollar crooked cross stage tickets bought and you
Speaker 2: can only ice like four people. That's like, that's that's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. That's not good stats. Baby, that's terrible.
Speaker 2: You're a loser.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad free throw percentage.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like you did all that to just throw.
Speaker 1: Up a couple of bricks, Like, all right, Satan if
Speaker 1: anything is not effective at his job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel if that's if that's the case, Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean the internet feels differently. They feel like the
Speaker 2: I think it was eight, if I'm not mistaken, eight
Speaker 2: people who died. There was enough to prove that Satan
Speaker 2: was secretly behind all of this. Now you gotta hit
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty to make me even move.
Speaker 1: I will say that one of the things that I
Speaker 1: struggled with inside of this is the Travis Scott of
Speaker 1: it all right, Like he look Travis Scott at the
Speaker 1: core of him, and I get it. He dabbles, he
Speaker 1: sort of plays, and he feels very weird and strange
Speaker 1: to the art form he's in. But Travis Scott at
Speaker 1: its core is still a nigga from Houston, Texas. And
Speaker 1: his real name is Jack quees You know what I'm saying. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: this man's his name is Jack Queeze. Ain't no country
Speaker 1: nigga named Jack Queese ever read the Satanic Bible? Do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You can't read the Satanic
Speaker 1: Bible in line at the Turkey leg hut you have,
Speaker 1: It's not possible. They'll kill you, those big old corn
Speaker 1: bread church people will beat the fuck out of you.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can read it in Houston, to
Speaker 2: be quite honest.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's just this feels like a
Speaker 1: stretch to say that. I don't believe that Travis Scott
Speaker 1: reads much less it's reading. I'm on the best practices
Speaker 1: for introducing hell gateways.
Speaker 2: And as far as him staring dead eyed. He does
Speaker 2: that a lot because I've always wondered with Travis Scott
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know if you're faster or slow?
Speaker 1: Wait? Have you never seen Travis Scott play basketball?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you've never seen it?
Speaker 2: Is it good?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I want? His name is Chuck Wheeze?
Speaker 1: He does? He absolutely does. I'll look it up real
Speaker 1: quick and send it to you if you can.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this. I never even thought about
Speaker 2: him playing basketball because he went to art school.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Travis Scott plays basketball baby.
Speaker 2: Like a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh who hard to know?
Speaker 2: Ah man, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: But he he certainly moves with the same confidence he
Speaker 1: moves with on stage.
Speaker 2: I want him to be good. I want him to
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 1: You want Travis Scott to be good?
Speaker 2: I want him to be like I want him to
Speaker 2: be like unselfish, like really really good passing.
Speaker 1: WHOA, you're a big Travis Scott fan.
Speaker 2: No, I don't do that to me.
Speaker 1: You like that? Those kids die?
Speaker 2: No? Why did you do that with his arm? What's happening?
Speaker 3: Baby?
Speaker 2: That's not what that is.
Speaker 1: That's what Trav guy who can look like oh, this
Speaker 1: is my favorite party. The Yeah, there was an angle
Speaker 1: that you'll have to see at a different time.
Speaker 2: I think he's just trying athletic. I think he plays
Speaker 2: basketball like he went to arts school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one where you can see from the back,
Speaker 1: from his back how crazy the release is. And that
Speaker 1: was the one that I was most joyful in sharing.
Speaker 1: But here we are.
Speaker 2: That's okay. That was okay, That wasn't That wasn't as
Speaker 2: bad as it could have been.
Speaker 1: No, and he is much worse than than what those
Speaker 1: videos sort of reflected.
Speaker 2: I feel like if I was a rap star, first
Speaker 2: thing I do, I play that guy lethal shooter, come
Speaker 2: get you right immediately.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I want to be in the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, and and people will be like, yo, he
Speaker 1: could hoop. I'm not. I'm not trying to make the league.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fix whatever, you know, dreams I lost.
Speaker 1: I just need people to be like, hey, you know who.
Speaker 2: You want to be when compared with other people in
Speaker 2: your field at basketball, they want to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: stand up comedians. It's like Leinston Kerman yep. I feel
Speaker 2: like Clayton English. I don't know, you know, a garden Swarts.
Speaker 1: He's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Travis Scott to me feels much more like
Speaker 1: just a dude playing in in imagery right that services
Speaker 1: the selling of his brand more than an actual devil worship.
Speaker 2: I can believe that as well. I mean, I I
Speaker 2: just he's like a hype.
Speaker 1: Beast, yes exactly. And he's he's then making devil worshiping
Speaker 1: like palatable for a fucking tweem who.
Speaker 2: He's a sellout. He's a devil sellout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's truly a devil kne and that that
Speaker 1: wasn't a term that I thought I would use today.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much.
Speaker 2: I never that's he's a devil.
Speaker 1: Travis Scott is a devil coon.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Can we please title this episode double Coons? I think
Speaker 1: it's the only option we have at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's a I'm gonna call man. I'm gonna man,
Speaker 2: my little brother just left. I would have called him
Speaker 2: a devil coon. I'm gonna say. I'm saying that every
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it to the barbershop.
Speaker 1: He's gonna your brother is gonna be like, yo, what
Speaker 1: the fuck.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna know how to take it.
Speaker 1: That's you'll be a while. He's a double coon.
Speaker 2: He is a devil It's perfect. It's too good. Do
Speaker 2: you think Sammy Davis Jr. Was a devil coon or
Speaker 2: was he?
Speaker 1: I think based off of what we now know from
Speaker 1: this one conversation with Jerry Seinfeld and Eddie Murphy, then yeah,
Speaker 1: Sammy Davis was a devil coon.
Speaker 2: All right? Before this episode ends, can we just list
Speaker 2: four known devil coons?
Speaker 1: Well, Sammy Davis was a one eyed devil coon, which
Speaker 1: feels like a worst that's the worst version of it.
Speaker 2: The only kind that's worst is a Kentucky devil coon.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kentucky Kentucky devil coon sounds bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, So Sammy Davis Jr. No devil coon.
Speaker 1: Travis Scott suspected devil.
Speaker 2: Coon, suspected devil coon.
Speaker 1: I would I would go so far as to say
Speaker 1: Terry Crews is a devil.
Speaker 2: Terry CRUs is a hot if anybody was ever a
Speaker 2: devil coon one, if there was ever one.
Speaker 1: I think Terry Crewis is definitely pulling in devil cruise
Speaker 1: like he he feels like he's definitely playing a different
Speaker 1: version of Satanism than Travis Scott and Sammy Davis.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, No, I think he's the one who's really
Speaker 2: believe in it. Yeah, like he's that's he's find so
Speaker 2: hard to be so soft, like to be seen it
Speaker 2: you to porn just because you're devil Cooning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels like sort of the uh, the tom
Speaker 1: Cruise of his field as far as Satanism is concerned,
Speaker 1: where it's like, you're so good at it, we we
Speaker 1: don't even want you to hide it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you to be out. Yeah he's yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he might be King Devil Coon.
Speaker 1: I think he's King Devil Coope for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay. And then who's the last one? Maybe Brian Pumper.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can see that. You gotta you gotta fucking
Speaker 1: diversify your bonds.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: All of them do a different thing.
Speaker 2: It's all different.
Speaker 1: If if Satan needed four horsemen of his version of
Speaker 1: the apocalypse, you are glass eide Sammy Davis. You want
Speaker 1: silly jumpshot Travis Scott, you want buff ass terry crews,
Speaker 1: and then you want button naked Brian Puffer with a
Speaker 1: long ass dick next to a horse's long ass dick.
Speaker 1: This makes perfect sense to me. The four double coons
Speaker 1: of the apocket. What a what a combination?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's like it's the perfect access of evil.
Speaker 1: They hidding every spot.
Speaker 2: All the bad, all the bad.
Speaker 1: There is not a black person who subscribes that this podcast,
Speaker 1: or frankly any other podcast that has not at some
Speaker 1: point invested in one of those four people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to their detriment, because we all did it. We
Speaker 2: all did it. We saw we saw white chicks. We
Speaker 2: thought Terry Crews is harmless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like, he gets it, he gets what
Speaker 1: this joke is. He's on our side. No, but never na,
Speaker 1: he meant every word.
Speaker 2: And we've also who hasn't who hasn't invested some time
Speaker 2: in Brian Bumper?
Speaker 1: Come on, dog, come on.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh no, you hear that song
Speaker 2: King Dingling? He made you head that song? No you
Speaker 2: never heard King Dingling by Brian Bumper. This last video
Speaker 2: for today. I swear to God, No I haven't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I thought you were cool. This is You're
Speaker 2: gonna love this. Oh man, if this, if if there
Speaker 2: was ever a video of it, screamed devil Coon in
Speaker 2: double I can't wait for double Coon merch to start
Speaker 2: dropping on the internet.
Speaker 1: We get Devil Cone T shirts, we can get double
Speaker 1: coot our wear a double Coon T shirt without any
Speaker 1: other context attached to it.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you're not right now.
Speaker 1: It would mean the world to me if that was
Speaker 1: the the product that we started pushing on this show.
Speaker 2: Is that the first time you've ever said that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never called anybody a devil coon before.
Speaker 2: Damn, this is a good day. All right, this is
Speaker 2: the last. But this is this. You're gonna watch this
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be like, oh, this is devil cooner.
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't wait. I'm so glad I get
Speaker 2: to show you this. You should read that thought.
Speaker 1: When you have a dream and a passion, keep going
Speaker 1: and major investor will recognize. Pumping Oh no, Pumper piece
Speaker 1: and love album coming soon. Okay, King Dangling. He had
Speaker 1: to turn it down.
Speaker 3: He needs to know.
Speaker 1: You need to know whoa. My favorite part is that
Speaker 1: he did it all with the same cadence as the
Speaker 1: boys from the Super Bowl Shuffle. It's like the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe the worst rap I've ever heard anybody rap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's so, that's that's double cooning in his finest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because you're selling. He's selling us back as
Speaker 1: like these animals for just swinging dicks and fucking each
Speaker 1: other's gurgles and ship.
Speaker 2: He said, He said, I have nothing else to offer.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't exist except for this goddamn ding aling.
Speaker 2: And this crazy dance. He thought that was gonna catch'll.
Speaker 1: He was like, hold on, pause the music, y'all need
Speaker 1: to hear this first king dingling dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so foud you didn't know that's what your body
Speaker 2: was doing something.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't you dare confuse that with the fox trot.
Speaker 1: That's the king dingleling dance right there.
Speaker 2: Oh you thought this was the twist you to go.
Speaker 1: That's the king dingling dance.
Speaker 2: I think king dingling should be the official dance of
Speaker 2: the devil coon.
Speaker 1: That's that's great. So they're four horsemen all lined up
Speaker 1: on a hill. Their backs they're they're in shadow, They've
Speaker 1: got these hoods on, and as they descend the hill,
Speaker 1: they're doing the king dinging dance. Are they on top
Speaker 1: of their horses or is this just I think? Oh,
Speaker 1: they stand on their horses.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're standing on horses like and they're
Speaker 2: doing it. They're doing the dance. Wow.
Speaker 1: Oh this is hard. This is scary.
Speaker 2: Shit, this is fucked up. I worry that it's like
Speaker 2: a bloody marry thing where if you do the King
Speaker 2: dandling three times alone in the mirror, come out to
Speaker 2: fuck your girl.
Speaker 1: It's like some candy. You just hear your girls scream
Speaker 1: out because Brian Pumper's up in there. Jesus Christ, oh man, Well, Bory,
Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think we covered everything we needed to cover in this episode.
Speaker 1: Please tell the people where they can find you what
Speaker 1: cool shit you have going on, you.
Speaker 2: Know, just cool guy jokes seventy seven on Instagram. I'm
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Speaker 2: You could find the link to tickets on my Instagram.
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Speaker 2: and you know everything else. Just don't don't don't do
Speaker 2: the king dingling alone in the mirror.
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't you do it three times? Because God,
Speaker 1: that's it for you.
Speaker 2: Unless you don't love your girl, are you that big
Speaker 2: bumper fan?
Speaker 1: Or you're willing to risk losing your girl for this?
Speaker 2: You don't want that?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, so go to David's site, go
Speaker 1: to all his shows. I don't know what we're doing anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm oh, I'm at Faded September sixteenth, September A through
Speaker 1: the eleventh. I believe I'll be in Sandman Comedy Club
Speaker 1: in Richmond, Virgina, and then I got some other shit
Speaker 1: coming up in LA that I would love for people
Speaker 1: to show up to. Specifically, I believe nine twenty two,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at at the I'm saying it in
Speaker 1: weird ways. September twenty second, I'm gonna be at at
Speaker 1: the lyric hyperiod during an hour that I would love
Speaker 1: for folks to show up to tell them my little jokes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Beautiful? All right?
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to send us your drops, your
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories, you can send those to my mama
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Speaker 1: all of the things that we watched today, those videos
Speaker 1: will be in the episode notes of this episode, so
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