WEBVTT - Devil Coons (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie) RE-RELEASE 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.160 I was like, Yo, all my friends say God is cool, 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.360 and I want to find out if God is cool too. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:13.120 I was a loser dog, you're I dropped down Mountain 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.360 dew like we gotta go to church, somebody. I gotta 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.600 figure out where this ship came from. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.840 Come on, man, if something, if this, if this nectar 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:28.800 of the Gods exists, I simply must serve at his foot. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.760 The creator who made this. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:53.840 Kalas racist, the money turning stuff, I can't tell me. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.480 Yep, yep, yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:04.720 and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.000 Told Me, the podcast where. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.880 We dive deep, deep, deep into the pockets of black 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.959 conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove the theories 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.200 that you the listener have at home. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.360 This is this is a bit of a twist of 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.760 an episode because we're doing many episode shit on on 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.640 a Maxi day. You know what I mean? 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.920 Yeah, Maxie pads. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.880 Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I meant O day. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.160 You got a heavy flowsis got it? 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.880 Got it? Super Max jumbos. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.600 Which makes you feel gorgeous. You wanted to hear how 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:52.000 Jumbo it is, and boy, did your tampons delivered. I'm 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:53.960 one of your host Legs and Kerman. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.280 And I'm your other host, David Boy, and it's just 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.360 us too, and then maybe one other person ever. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.640 Yeah, something you and you played it smooth, baby. You 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.000 brought us right into it. And that was something Olivia 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.600 wanted us to mention, is that there will be times 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.080 where it's just David and I for episodes, and then 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.480 other times we will have more of those those wonderful 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:19.840 guests we've had in the past. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.160 Yeah, we nailed it. I thought that was a great 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.160 implement of notes. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.040 Yeah, so so suck that, Olivia. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.240 I didn't. I didn't say that. I respect you as 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.960 a producer, not me. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.880 Suck on it, suck on on us effectively delivering what 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.280 you what you asked for. I'm excited today because I 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.480 guess today's episode was originally prompted and this is why 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.240 it's a mini Maxi episode. But today's episode was originally 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.720 prompted by an email that I received from one of 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.960 our listeners who was very excited loves the show. But 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.480 before we get into that, I want to say that 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.680 that and maybe it's better to just start with the email. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.280 Maybe that's how we begin, and then I'll introduce the 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.360 broader idea that sort of came of it. But the 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:12.000 listener name John sent us a message. John said, peace 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.320 David and Langston David. First, I like that. I wanted 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.000 to share a conspiracy theory I heard not from my mama, 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.760 but from her childhood friend who was later my eighth 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.040 grade teacher. Since this was at a school where the 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.320 teachers were tacitly allowed to whoop us like they were 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.400 our mama's, I figured it would count. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:31.919 Damn how old is John? 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.400 Yeah, John's got to be old as fuck, right. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:34.960 I hope. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:41.640 So he's either old as fuck or from Alabama. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.360 And then say the deep deep South. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.800 Yeah, this feels like an Arkansas kind of Uh. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.240 Yeah, you can hate kids. You could just hit other 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:53.480 people's kids in Arkansas. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.320 Yeah, you could fuck up with stranger's kids in Arkansas, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.080 like right outside the barbershop, just being bakers. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.280 Yeah, they called me, sir, I'm not going to show. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.640 He kept his he kept his hat on in my 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:07.960 Penny candy shop. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.480 And I that child had the nerve to look me 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.839 in my eyes, and I beat that out of him. 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.520 You know, I'm not accepting that and not in nineteen 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:19.320 seventy two. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.920 No such child, No, no, no, no, I will beat 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.120 all these dirty kids ass in Arkansas. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.160 I like to believe in Arkansas they still think it's 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.240 nineteen seventy two, you know, like they don't they don't 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.280 have the Internet, so they don't really know what year 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:33.600 it is. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.040 No, they're getting ready for the by centennial down there. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.680 And what a fireworks show that's gonna be. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.360 Oh boy, yeah, it's that's the old fireworks before the internets. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.719 I think fireworks were better before the Internet. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:51.960 Oh, tell me more about this. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.960 I think all entertainment was better than the Internet. We 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.840 weren't all blissed out, you know what I mean? 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.720 Oh, meaning like we we've seen too much shit, So 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.279 now fireworks in a field ain't enough. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.560 Yeah, you've seen like a you know, like a five 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.120 way gang bang. What's firing the sky gonna do the. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.760 Yeah, that's fair you. I remember tuning into E Bomb's World. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.680 I was a big subscriber to E Bomb's World. Maybe 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.240 that dates me the same age as John, but I 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.720 remember there were like there was an entire like sect 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.680 of E Bomb's World that was just dedicated to like 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:30.840 drone footage murdering like people overseas like what it was 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.960 just like constant like sort of like a fucking night 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.680 vision Goggle footage of people getting like gunned through like 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 from up above, from like planes and drones and shit. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.600 And that was your section. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.160 No no, no, I didn't go it just said you no, no. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:54.240 I liked e Bomb's world. I minded my business as 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.279 far as drone footage goes. Now, if it was somebody 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.560 getting kicked in the dick, your boy was over. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.720 There, that's your personal drone footage. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.840 That's don't look like a victim to me. That looks. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.240 All I see is a joke in progress. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.120 I don't feel nothing for nobody on the dig videos, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.919 the drunt footage. I feel terrible. That's is that even legal? 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.360 Can you do that anymore? I can't imagine that you can, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.000 nor should you. I think all of it went real wrong. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.120 I remember when I was a kid, they used to 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.359 have these videos like Banded America or whatever, and it 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.680 would be like the kid we would go to the 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.039 kid whose apartment, whose parents like cared the least about 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.799 him for him, and then we would watch these videos 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.000 and it would be like people killing people stuff like that. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:50.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I I remember working at a company 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.039 that my dad got me hired for a job on 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.279 was was working as basically a spammer for this website 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.480 called digitalfuntown dot com where I had to like promote 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:06.320 their their very off color fucking animated videos. It was 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.840 like adult animation, but it was just without good writers. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.320 So it was like a big man's in prison and 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.680 he prison stabbed some squirrels, and the squirrels they're in 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.520 jail too, and what and like that was the whole 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.360 vibe over there. And I had to spam for them. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.160 I had to go on websites and just send out 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.560 fucking blasts trying to get people to go to digitalfundown 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.320 dot com. You're shaking your. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.880 Own hour, huh, like twelve an hour? 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:33.520 It was. It was up there. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.720 It was really pretty high at the time. I mean, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.200 can I tell you this is gonna this is gonna 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.840 blow your fucking mind. Uh. Oh. I used to write 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:47.040 for ebombs. I'm completely serious, is it really? Yeah? Me 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.680 and Alison Stevenson, it was. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.800 You lave me bailing for bailed for so long. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.520 Oh I didn't go on the website. Oh this was 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.440 this was. I was like, I was like writing their 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.960 meme generate. They had meme generator software, so I had 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.440 to make like ten memes every time, and then I 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.200 was doing all kinds of ship. I didn't I didn't 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:06.920 go on it ever. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.560 Oh that's smart. It didn't heal me. It didn't make 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.760 me better, but. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.920 I did I did have I did make one move 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.040 meme that went pretty big. It was Michael Sarah and 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.320 that young pregnant white women women and it said don't 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:27.200 be silly. You know I don't wear condom. It was 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.360 my big e bombs world credit. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.960 Oh yeah, that did numbers for you. Oh yeah, I 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.280 don't go on the site, but I'm hearing good things. No, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.120 I you know you're not. I don't wear condoms, big. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was that was my interest 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:43.640 to the game. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.840 Well, I'd say all that to say that the thing 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.679 that ended up happening was you go on different websites spamming. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.800 Sometimes you watch the videos. I'm watching this video of 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.760 a kiddy cat and a dog playing together. They're just playing. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.560 It's harmless fun. And then it immediately switched a cut 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.160 to a video of a dude getting his head sawed off. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.080 By another man. And then I just had to go 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.760 to a boss and be like, hey, bro, I can't 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.760 I can't do this no more. That was it that 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.800 you were like, No, man, I don't think this is 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.000 this is gonna keep happening for very long. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:21.360 Yeah. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.559 Call me when they're kicking people in the dick again. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.800 Yeah, this is this is not fun. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.440 That's awful. You had to see that at work. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.199 It was the worst day I think I've ever had 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:33.040 that workplace. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.800 No, we're both laughing, but this is trauma for you 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:36.840 for sure. Yeah. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.960 No, I haven't let it go. And this was many, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:39.679 many years ago. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:46.400 No, you gotta you gotta talk to somebody. That's like 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:47.880 a bad thing that happened. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:53.440 I hope this cuts out and then it's online psych 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.840 Yeah did you see did you see an Arab dude 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.920 chomping another Arab dudes? 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.839 Off work? I don't know if they were Arab. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.040 I don't know either, but you know I didn't keep 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.320 the video up. I didn't finish it. It was it 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.080 was pretty bad. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.120 Yeah, that's awful, man. Well look at you now, you 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:15.160 got a kid, You'll be all right. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.600 Yeah, And I had no way I transferred this down 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:18.520 to another person. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.720 No, No, you kept it all inside like a good 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:22.320 black man. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.040 So our friend John goes on to say, one day, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.520 while we could have been learning history or social studies 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.160 or anything related to the curriculum, she told us referring 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.280 to this woman who used to beat him at school. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.720 She told us about how much she used to love 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.640 the band Earth, Wind and Fire. Then she found out 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.000 that they worshiped the devil. That was a Christian school, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:50.920 so I'm sure she meant it as a warning to 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.199 us kids about our enjoyment of worldly music. She went 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.840 on to talk about how she heard they would pray 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.280 to Satan over their recordshipments whoa before they were sent out, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.040 and sacrifice an animal I think a goat to consecrate 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.360 their pact and ensure good sales. I'd love to know 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.640 if you heard anything similar and hear you talk about 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.079 anything you learned. Love the show. Been a fan from 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:17.040 the beginning. I've liked, subscribed, and reviewed, So please don't 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:22.000 threaten my knees by bitch John. Well, thank you, John, Yeah, John, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.360 thank you for saying this. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.080 Wow, Man, this is so compliment because I don't want 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.559 to be like I don't want to be rude to 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:37.920 your dusty teacher ass Auntie. But that bitch is lying. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.840 Yeah, Earth when and Fire being the source of Satan, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.880 feels wild. It is. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.959 Man, listen, if it was a bad group, then I 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.559 would be like, Okay, granted, maybe that's it right, it's 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.719 a bad group. The Devil used his power Earth Then 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.000 when it's incredible, what the fuck are you talking? 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.079 Millie, Millie, Millie Vanilli goes and they're secretly devil worshipers. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.480 That makes perfect sense. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.000 They're German already, it's right there. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.319 They didn't even sing their songs, so it's like, oh, 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.080 you just found shelves to take on the voice of 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.240 Satan for spreading his word. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.560 But Earth Win and Fire also they're from Tuskegee, Alabama. 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:25.040 I don't feel I feel like that's not Devil country. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.920 I've been. I've been several times. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.640 Why are you gonna do Skegee so much? 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:36.160 My mom had a friend who grew up down there. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.840 It's a good town to go to. You can go 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.000 to George Washington carference house. They have a there's a 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.280 drag racing track outside the town. Yeah, you know, don't 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:50.200 worry about why I'm in excusing I got I got 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.720 roots of the point. It's like that that that that 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.040 that that's who told her about the goat. That's also 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.720 what I don't understand. That means they did that goat 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.559 ship and somebody was like, ooh, I'm. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:06.280 Telling yeah, it's it's weird, like the goat in particular 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.280 is like okay, So they're first of all, they're in 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.440 charge of their own shipments. The Earth Winding Fire is 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.960 packing up their own crates to be don't. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.080 She is going to the fucking warehouse. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:24.040 Vinylanol's not wait wait Linold's not in Earth Winding Fire. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.240 Oh, I'm thinking about the Commodores. Yeah, they're from They're 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.760 from Tuskegee. I don't know where Earth Winning Fires from. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.080 I don't know either, wherever you do dreads and shaved 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.240 heads at the same time. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.760 But they're also not going they're not going to the 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.320 they're all dressed like wizards. They're not in packing warehouses. No, 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:48.280 they're not going blood everywhere. I don't, I don't, I don't. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.640 And what I feel like this lady is just saying, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.640 you know what happened? Uh? Oh, I think that she 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:58.400 got I think because it's very excitable music. I think 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.760 that she maybe got too over some earth winding fire, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.600 committed some actions that she's not proud of. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:10.720 Oh earth wind fire and sex, and then. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.199 She yeah, water. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.240 Which is what she screamed when she came is water. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.880 Yeah? She she she yeah, I think she. I think 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.480 she yeah. I think she might have given somebody some 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.520 sloppy toppy or something like that. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.600 And then you know, and then felt terrible. And then 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.720 she was like, that's devil music, y'alla of the devil. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.560 Yeah, that's what I think. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.040 That's not a bad theory. I will say that that 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.520 this was and part of where this Macro episode starts 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.560 to kick in this Maxi episode, is that this conversation 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.160 led me to a larger questioning, I guess, of whether 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.960 or not secular music is a sin? Right? That that 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.480 my mama told me secular music is a sin is 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.640 really the conversation we're having at large, and do you 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.920 feel that way? It's definitely something that I learned when 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.320 I was a kid. Like when I was like in 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.480 my teens, I advocated that we go to church just 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.320 because I was like, oh you yeah, it was weird. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:19.920 I got our family going to church. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.280 So you advocated for your family go to church, were you, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.560 So you weren't like you obviously were not afraid to 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.800 go to church at that age, like you weren't fornicated 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.040 or anything like that. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.640 No, and this was my early teens. Don't get it wrong. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.680 I got busy pretty soon after. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.320 You didn't even. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.240 No, David, look at me. I got prissy pretty soon 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.200 after let's just all be cool. I know, about a 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.000 year and then I figured out that some of this 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.440 felt very false. But to that, the larger thing that 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.480 that sort of broke me, I guess out of my 0:15:55.560 --> 0:16:00.680 dedication to religion specifically was going to church one day 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.160 and being sent to a basement for Bible study. And 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.360 in that basement they played like an hour and a 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.920 half long video where they accused literally every artist of 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:16.760 being a devil worshiper, like literally everybody. There was the 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.200 and literally the part that broke me. I'll never forget 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.120 it is they that there was a part of the 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.480 video where they were like, and now we're gonna talk 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:29.160 about John Lennon, And then they pulled up a clip 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.760 of Imagine, the song Imagine where his entire purpose and 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.240 the song is calling for peace amongst men, and they 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.800 go this motherfucker said God ain't real and it's like, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.720 I don't. I don't know, bro, I think if I 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.480 think this is different than what you're pitching to me. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.240 This is crazy because like, first of all, what was 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:56.000 the timestamp? What era was this video produced? Like? Is 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.920 this an eighties? Seventies? 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.600 It felt like if I were to I guess it 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:05.480 was like mid to early nineties. Okay, so they were 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.080 incorporating grunge and like a lot of shit. But like 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.800 for me, I wasn't. I'm not a that wasn't my 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.640 shit when I was a kid, you know what I mean. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.800 So I didn't none of this music meant anything to me. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:24.040 But the fucking imagine it's so clearly a song about 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.360 harmony that it was like I'm reading the lyrics as 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.480 they're calling it devil worship that I was like, look, man, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.680 I don't fuck with John Lennon, but God damn this 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.000 feels false. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.119 Right, Okay that is I get that. But there is 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.800 other music where you're like, maybe this is from the 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:48.479 Devil mm hmm, Like when like when the How Boys 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.400 are like, I like the fucker and the ass, well 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.960 he beat up the pussy, Like that's not from God? 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.760 You know what? I'm saying, like, there is some music 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.240 that I listen to and sometimes in my head I'm 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:05.960 like the devil. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.399 But I guess somebody could argue, and this isn't my argument, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.880 but I'll play the game. Is that maybe God gave 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.080 us all them holes. Maybe them boys are just filling 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.879 holes God. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're connecting to 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.000 Satan as much as making choices. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.320 Okay, you're right, so sex out of it. What about 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.080 just like violent I'm gonna kill you music? 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.800 And that's I think there are things. And truly, I 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.200 don't know that I have a hard formed opinion about 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.800 sin or not sin or whatever the fuck it is. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:41.639 But I do think that there are a bunch of 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.600 artists who who know that devil worshiping is a thing, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.800 and they play into the shit because that's that's part 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.399 of the fun. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:55.040 I guess that's part of the good time. I worry 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.600 more about idolatry than devil worshiping, at least if we're 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.320 talking about Black Guard. 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.480 Is mm hm, say more about that, like sense like 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:05.920 us idolizing them? 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.879 Yeah, and just like you know, commitment of life to 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.439 the pursuit of money and material wealth and designer and 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.800 all these things. It does come off as worship. Mm hmmm, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.399 you know what I mean, Like the idea of the 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.280 of like designer being used as currency and stuff like that, 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:30.399 so that I would worry about, but like directly developed, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.720 directly worshiping the devil is a heavy line. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.320 Right, Yeah. I think there's a to me that feels 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:42.119 more like uh, what you're describing ego and sort of 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.320 like toxicity that sort of consumption and capitalism does to 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.760 all of us. But it doesn't feel like they're like 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:53.359 burning fucking candles in their like you know, living room 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.320 and being like love you devil, and then going and 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.960 performing at their shows. You know what I mean? I mean, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.000 which one is worse than also? I honestly I would 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.560 rather you commit to the ship. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.840 Yeah, I'd rather you just wear some horns, go down 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.000 to the warehouse. Kill a goat than like. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.879 A leather vest. Yeah, kill a goat. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.320 I want you to dress up like a black Hebrew Israelite, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.400 but fun but fun, fun like. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:31.240 Colors, go kill a goat and then sing September. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.159 It's worth it. Then it's worth it. Then I'm not 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.040 afraid of the devil like that. Maybe I should chill. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.600 Oh man, that was a statement. If I've ever heard one, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.320 are you? I don't. I'm I'm afraid of people who 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.720 really like them. Yeah, I genuinely am. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:52.200 I see it in your face. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.000 I don't think it's one of those where it's like 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.320 I beat a devil worshipers. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:57.600 Ass. 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.720 I don't think I would. I think whatever they like 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.679 makes them like have a weird strength that I don't. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.640 I don't know that I'm gonna go tell for toe 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.040 with so nah, they make me uncomfortable for sure. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.440 I've never met one that wasn't skinny, first of all. 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.399 Yeah, that scares me more. Oh you okay, because you 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.320 know it's like we all know skinny motherfuckers who can 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.919 secretly fight. And you're like, why true, you ain't got 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:23.600 no muscles? 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.080 How is this? And that is true? Like I have 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.560 seen scared. I knew a few skinny guys who like 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.800 almost like they're possessed. Uh huh, okay, that's fair. Come on, man, 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.919 what is the devil effort? Like, you know, what have 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.040 you done for me lately? 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:43.639 Like I don't know, man, you're missing the old devil. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.440 I missed, I mean I missed like a concrete enemy. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.399 I feel like the new new school Devil. What a 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.360 bunch of white ladies got crystals in their titties. That's 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.080 I'm scared of that. That's fair. I will say new 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.399 school Devil feels much closer to Troll. An effective leader, 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.680 That's what I'm saying. I don't see him. I don't 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:08.160 see him galvanizing the people to like, what, like, what 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:09.879 major moves have you made, Devil. 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.320 I'm gonna be honest, it sounds like you calling the 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.880 devil out and I'm excited to see where it lands. 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:22.320 I'm not not damn you heard it here first, Devil 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:23.680