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Speaker 1: Come on, man, if something, if this, if this nectar

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama

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Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where.

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Speaker 2: We dive deep, deep, deep into the pockets of black

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove the theories

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Speaker 1: This is this is a bit of a twist of

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Speaker 1: an episode because we're doing many episode shit on on

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Speaker 1: a Maxi day. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I meant O day.

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Speaker 1: You got a heavy flowsis got it?

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Speaker 2: Got it? Super Max jumbos.

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Speaker 1: Which makes you feel gorgeous. You wanted to hear how

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Speaker 2: And I'm your other host, David Boy, and it's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something you and you played it smooth, baby. You

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Speaker 2: No, we're both laughing, but this is trauma for you

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Speaker 2: No, you gotta you gotta talk to somebody. That's like

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Speaker 1: So our friend John goes on to say, one day,

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Speaker 2: But Earth Win and Fire also they're from Tuskegee, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Why are you gonna do Skegee so much?

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Speaker 2: But they're also not going they're not going to the

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Speaker 2: they're not going blood everywhere. I don't, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 2: And what I feel like this lady is just saying,

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad theory. I will say that that

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, bro, I think if I

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Speaker 2: This is crazy because like, first of all, what was

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Speaker 1: It felt like if I were to I guess it

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Speaker 1: was like mid to early nineties. Okay, so they were

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Speaker 1: So I didn't none of this music meant anything to me.

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Speaker 1: But the fucking imagine it's so clearly a song about

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Speaker 1: harmony that it was like I'm reading the lyrics as

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay that is I get that. But there is

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Speaker 2: Devil mm hmm, Like when like when the How Boys

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Speaker 2: are like, I like the fucker and the ass, well

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Speaker 2: he beat up the pussy, Like that's not from God?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I'm saying, like, there is some music

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Speaker 1: But I guess somebody could argue, and this isn't my argument,

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Speaker 1: but I'll play the game. Is that maybe God gave

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, so sex out of it. What about

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Speaker 1: And that's I think there are things. And truly, I

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Speaker 1: But I do think that there are a bunch of

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Speaker 2: I guess that's part of the good time. I worry

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Speaker 2: more about idolatry than devil worshiping, at least if we're

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Speaker 1: Is mm hm, say more about that, like sense like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like you know, commitment of life to

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like the idea of the

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Speaker 2: so that I would worry about, but like directly developed,

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. I think there's a to me that feels

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Speaker 1: all of us. But it doesn't feel like they're like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather you just wear some horns, go down

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Speaker 1: A leather vest. Yeah, kill a goat.

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Speaker 2: I want you to dress up like a black Hebrew Israelite,

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Speaker 2: but fun but fun, fun like.

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Speaker 1: Colors, go kill a goat and then sing September.

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Speaker 2: It's worth it. Then it's worth it. Then I'm not

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that was a statement. If I've ever heard one,

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Speaker 1: are you? I don't. I'm I'm afraid of people who

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's one of those where it's like

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Speaker 2: Ass.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I think whatever they like

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm gonna go tell for toe

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Speaker 2: I've never met one that wasn't skinny, first of all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that scares me more. Oh you okay, because you

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Speaker 1: know it's like we all know skinny motherfuckers who can

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Speaker 2: How is this? And that is true? Like I have

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Speaker 2: almost like they're possessed. Uh huh, okay, that's fair. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: what is the devil effort? Like, you know, what have

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, man, you're missing the old devil.

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Speaker 2: I missed, I mean I missed like a concrete enemy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the new new school Devil. What a

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Speaker 2: bunch of white ladies got crystals in their titties. That's

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Speaker 2: I'm scared of that. That's fair. I will say new

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't see him. I don't

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Speaker 2: see him galvanizing the people to like, what, like, what

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Speaker 2: major moves have you made, Devil.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it sounds like you calling the

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Speaker 1: I'm not not damn you heard it here first, Devil

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Speaker 2: I just feel like I stuck up for that guy

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Speaker 1: A fight to win it all, and apparently there's a

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Speaker 1: for you, Devil, and you're you're going down, buddy, I

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Speaker 1: got you. Well, we're gonna take a break. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the most appropriate way to end this. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back with more, David boy

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Speaker 1: And my mama told me we are.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gay, no more, I am deserving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We're back here with more, David Bori more. My

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Speaker 1: Is that the fear?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that we hurt God when we turn

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Speaker 2: the devil is all about temptation, is the whole thing, right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this this big thing is trying to tempt

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Speaker 1: it temporarily or permanently. Yeah, So I guess God don't

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Speaker 1: like seeing you back.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's like a It's like the way I

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Speaker 2: treat kids in Arkansas, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 1: So I, upon hearing this earth winding fire Satanism question,

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to John's original question about

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Speaker 1: earth winding fire. I did, in fact do some research,

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Speaker 1: and specifically I stumbled into a forty five minute Facebook

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Speaker 1: documentary called satan.

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Speaker 2: Document That's just a video a dude put up.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no. They They had two different interviews,

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Speaker 1: one of which was with a brother named uh watchman

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Speaker 1: Yahoo Israel and uh yah yeah yeah, y a h u.

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Speaker 1: And I'm probably not Yahoo, but it's Yahoo.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I would respect it if it

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Speaker 2: was yho Oh, I'm not going Noah first name Watchman.

439
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: You're fine with that? Yeah, yeah, I got I get yeah,

440
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: it happens. But Yahoo's gotta be get your right.

441
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: But he produced this along with a woman who, despite

442
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: introducing himself at every interview segment of his own, he

443
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: never introduces hers. Is like a much grainier footage that

444
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: they film in a park. He's in like a full

445
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: studio setup, and they never even mentioned who the fuck

446
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: this bitch is for forty five minutes. And yes, you,

447
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: god damn right, I watched all forty five minutes of

448
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: this shit.

449
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: Can you do you have a clip? You gotta show

450
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Speaker 2: me a clip.

451
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: I absolutely have a clip. But I couldn't wait for

452
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Speaker 1: you to ask that question. Let me pull up some

453
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Speaker 1: of my favorite moments from thing.

454
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Speaker 2: Self produced.

455
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Right, it's absolutely self producing, And that won't even be

456
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: a question you'll have to ask. Shortly, you're gonna see

457
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: it and you'll know without a doubt that this is

458
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Speaker 1: self produced.

459
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm excited as hell.

460
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: So first of all, I want to play a clip.

461
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go.

462
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: Huh, white it out series? Oh they got okay, there's

463
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Speaker 2: a series.

464
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all the series. Make that ship big, yeah,

465
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: blow it up and listen to how the narrator sounds.

466
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: This is this is the reason we're watching here.

467
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Speaker 5: As you see in the previous episode, how Satan, being

468
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: a minister of music, has chosen musicians, singers, and entertainers

469
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: to be his music topic, his wicked messages and doctrines

470
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 5: throughout the world.

471
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: Just from from that uh, twilight gorge has.

472
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Speaker 5: Always been a form of worship since the beginning.

473
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: Because there's absolutely no way Rick James was a devil worshiper.

474
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Speaker 2: What okay, now you're there's no way he was not.

475
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: No, get out of here, Rick James wasn't worshiping the Devil.

476
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Rick James illicit substances.

477
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: He was slow New York's for Carlo James.

478
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely that motherfucker was not worshiping the Devil.

479
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

480
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: You mean Eddie Murphy's key collaborator is worshiping the devil.

481
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: Key collaborator is a boot.

482
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: You telling me he didn't make that song.

483
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 2: He turned some knobs in the video. I'm telling you

484
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: that I saw it. I think he provided a bunch

485
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: of cocaine. I listened. I think he listened to Eddie

486
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: Murphy vent about how his girl likes to party all

487
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: the time and said, maybe you should write that down.

488
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: And and so you're saying that whole time. He was like,

489
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: you should write that down for sake.

490
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm not. I just I feel like Rick James was

491
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: wild that I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. Also, Sammy

492
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: Davis Junior worshiped the devil.

493
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: Go on, is there any evidence behind this or is this.

494
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: There's a clip of Eddie Murphy talking about it on

495
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: Comedians and Cars with getting coffee.

496
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Speaker 1: I like how you played this game, because you're down

497
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: saying if I'm gonna use Eddie Murphy as evidence, then

498
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna use Eddie Murphy as evidence, which then either

499
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: forces me to refute my own Eddie Murphy evidence or

500
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: support yours.

501
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Listen, all I'm saying, I play you know, shoot a

502
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: shoot I it's really a jugglo video. This is terrible.

503
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: So this video, again forty five minutes on. This narrator

504
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: is not the person that is sort of leading the charge.

505
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: This dude Yahoo Israel is the main excuse me, watchman

506
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Yahoo Israel is the main dude pushing the charge. And

507
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: then that lady he won't ever introduce. But throughout the

508
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: video he goes into like this long thing about how

509
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: he used to fuck with or.

510
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: Earth Wind and Fire.

511
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: He supported them, and it wasn't until he really started

512
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: digging into their messaging that he realized that they were

513
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: of the devil, that they were out here spreading Satan's word.

514
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I need a clip of like a synopsis or something. Oh,

515
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to see it. My favorite

516
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: part of this before we press play on it, my

517
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: absolute that's the lady he won't introduce. My favorite part.

518
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Of this clip is the point in which he after

519
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: he starts to really feel like he's digging into a point,

520
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: he just starts yelling stuff like emphatically at the camera

521
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a moment of him losing his

522
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: mind at this information.

523
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 6: In nineteen seventy four, Sun Goddess rose to five twenty

524
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: and forty four on the US Disco R and B

525
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 6: and Hot one hundred Singles charts, respectively. It was Lewis's

526
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 6: biggest hit since the in Crowd. Earth Wind and Fire

527
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: also recorded a live version of the song for their

528
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 6: Gratitude LP in nineteen seventy four.

529
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Speaker 7: Sun Goddess Some Worship. This is exactly what they were

530
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 7: pushing in their music, Sun worship, worship of the Sun,

531
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 7: which is one of the oldest sins in descriptions, because

532
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 7: they tell you that even Judah at web time and

533
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 7: pray to the Sun, so worship.

534
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Sun goddesses.

535
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: To his sugars. Are his sugars are up ebody.

536
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Imagine getting that mad at Earth whin in Fire where

537
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: you're listening to their lyrics and first of all, all

538
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: these claiming, all he's suggesting is that they're saying worship

539
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: the Sun God instead of Jesus Christ. Like that's what

540
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: he claims, is the devil worshiping inside.

541
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: Of this, So this is it's all just hardcore Christianity,

542
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: that's his old thing.

543
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Well, he's saying like they're they're asking us to go

544
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: towards false idols and subsequently in doing that, that's like

545
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: basically Satan's biggest coolest trick is getting us to worship

546
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: someone that isn't Jesus Christ.

547
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't know what to make of this.

548
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: I love his passion, can I say that like I

549
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: appreciate he's sick.

550
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Man. I want to believe he does this for every

551
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: single Earthwind Empire.

552
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: So you're just sitting.

553
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: There like electric Bogle Loo boogle Loo Wonderland?

554
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: What also? Because and I've always wondered this, all right,

555
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: if it's why is it always the music? Why doesn't

556
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: God have any good musics on his side? Then? Mmm?

557
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: Don't you wonder that? What?

558
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Why God doesn't? I mean he's got some oh right,

559
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: because like oh yeah, that's worth noting that that this series,

560
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: it is a series and the other episodes circle around

561
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Prince and Parliament Funkadelic. So he ain't fucking like you said,

562
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: he ain't fucking within No, God ain't got no good

563
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: artists on his side.

564
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'm that. I mean, he's got like the.

565
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: Mmmm right right?

566
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Ah? What's uh Whitney Houston's mom, Sissy Houston? Uh huh ah.

567
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: I feel like Ray Charles was on his side.

568
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Ray Charles did Heroin.

569
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: He's like, you get you Heroin and love God.

570
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Ray Charles, Here's what I'll

571
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: say I think Ray Charles loved Heroin more then God. Yeah,

572
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: at the end, not at the end, man through most

573
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: of his life.

574
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: Wait, damn what Here's what's crazy to me. By the

575
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: way I say, I say, you know, I don't think

576
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: all music is from God because I like to fuck

577
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: her in the house while he beat up to pussy.

578
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: And you're like, well, that could be anything but Heroin.

579
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: That's the line. You can feel I'm sad at once

580
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: and be a child of God, but you can't shoot

581
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: up a little bit of Heroin.

582
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that was my argument, and I and

583
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I I'd roll back the tape if I knew how

584
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: to do that. My argument wasn't that they are children

585
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: of God. There was no I wasn't sitting there being like,

586
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a child of God. Juvie Juvie is

587
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: a child of God. That wasn't my point. My point

588
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: was only that he was sharing holes with his friends,

589
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: not to serve at Satan's footsteps.

590
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but you but shooting up is Satan. I feel it.

591
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: It's the same activity.

592
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I I think that's a fair point that

593
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm willing to concede on that maybe I'm being a

594
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: little generous when I differentiate between heroin and a tag

595
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: team with your closest buddies.

596
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: Or is just some guy you met it, doesn't you know?

597
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: I don't know? All right? Fair enough?

598
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: I thought I thought in the song he was implying

599
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it with BEG and they have more

600
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: than just a passing friendship.

601
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: Right, man? Could you imagine walking in on that.

602
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: Just two of the most talented hideous men sharing one lady?

603
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh man? Where did she go? After that? You gotta

604
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: go and like, what do you? What do you do?

605
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: Right after you got tag team by JUVII and BG.

606
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

607
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I hope somewhere, I hope somewhere is special. I hope

608
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: like a good movie.

609
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: No, I bet you went. I hope it's like Golden Crowd,

610
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: like just decompressed. It's like, sit down, get you some

611
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: chocolate milk, and really think about what's been going on?

612
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Like what got me here?

613
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

614
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

615
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? How did I end up this way?

616
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 4: Oh man?

617
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: So the documentary is another You've only seen a couple

618
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: minutes of it, but it's it's forty five minutes long.

619
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: They they mostly even the Facebook comments are mostly people

620
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: calling them stupid and weird for spending this much time

621
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: on it. And obviously these claims of devil worshiping are

622
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: not limited to just earth wind and fire, right Like,

623
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: there are so many other groups and people you already

624
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: pointed to, like the Hot Boys, fucking John Lennon, the Beatles,

625
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: God damn it, Hotel California. When I was looking this

626
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: shit up, apparently it is a song that is meant

627
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: to have satan lyrics when you play it backwards. That

628
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: if you do that, that that back thing that that

629
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: white people out really excited about in the seventies sixty seventies.

630
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: I believe in that they do believe in backwards records.

631
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called back masking. Apparently, that's the technical term

632
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: for it.

633
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: I use that term for something completely different.

634
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: You have the devil man, and I'm proud of you.

635
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: People don't say that often enough. They don't go you

636
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: have the devil and.

637
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Good it felt good good. Here's my question, is there

638
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: any is there?

639
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I want?

640
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: I want because this is such a major claim, Is

641
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: there any major proof? Like, is there ever? Did you

642
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: find anything in all of your research where you were like, well,

643
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: that seems like actually a good point. They could be

644
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: for the devil.

645
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I will say that there were there are people that

646
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: they bring up where it's like, don't be silly, like

647
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: the whole hotel the Eagles are are hiding. They claim

648
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: they're hiding. Yes, Satan organized his own religion or Satan.

649
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: He hears this. He had me believe in him in

650
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: their music, and it's like, shut the fuck up. No, No,

651
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: they didn't.

652
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Seems like too much work, I mean. And it's also

653
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: like you don't have to hide it. You could say

654
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: it like they said, I like the fuck her in

655
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: the ass while he beat up the They just said it.

656
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: The market is wide open. You could just be saying

657
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: this shit.

658
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, you don't have to hide it in a

659
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: fucking turntable somewhere.

660
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: Because what kind of a fucking loser is listen to

661
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: that song backwards anyways?

662
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking dueves. Yeah what what girl did you invite

663
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: over that wants you to play it backwards?

664
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know how how I get laid. I

665
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: play fucking rock music backwards.

666
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: And then we get scared a little bit.

667
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a penny dropper every time.

668
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: So so obviously stuff like that feels very like I

669
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: you shut up, This isn't a thing. But then there's

670
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: other example where it's like there's a song from Slayer

671
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: if you're familiar at all with Slayer called hell Waits

672
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: or hell Awaits, and it's like, well, yeah, they hid

673
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: messages and that shiit.

674
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: What's the message by another Slayer album?

675
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: But no, I think they're they're feeding into the character.

676
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like they're doing fucking

677
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the character. Is literally you eating devil pussy and shit

678
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: on on your album covers.

679
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: I think that that's only for angels. Ah, I don't even.

680
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: I Also, this whole shit is crazy to me too,

681
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: because like, what's the allure of worship being the devil?

682
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I think that he'll he'll he'll bring your greatest desires

683
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: to come true. I'm basing this all off the movie

684
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate. You've seen that, Oh yeah, and al Pacino

685
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: being his dad for some reason?

686
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: Is that? But isn't that what God's supposed to do?

687
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess. But God's is like a slower drip,

688
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? God is microdos and your

689
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: your greatest dreams. What the Devil's offering is a big hit.

690
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Oh, because the devil give you like a one shot,

691
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: like I'll give you a hit single. God will give

692
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: you like a family that loves you.

693
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then and the inspiration to write the single,

694
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: should you so choose?

695
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Right? So then I yeah, I don't understand you. So

696
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: you just picked the devil because.

697
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: You're lazy it seems that way, or at least you

698
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: you really are mad at God about something else, you

699
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like if God took my foot,

700
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: I probably would start to at least consider what the

701
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: devil's got to say.

702
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: That's all it takes.

703
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, that's that's about would start.

704
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: You're an easy flip. No wonder why you didn't last long.

705
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Your boy loves the jog.

706
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: You know.

707
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: Don't take that foot from me.

708
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand. I wait, do you believe in God?

709
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: Though? I think I believe that we didn't just create ourselves.

710
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that this is an even scientists talking about.

711
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: Well, sure, as I said, it didn't feel like the

712
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: smartest thing I had said all day, but you really

713
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: zeroed in on it, and I respect that.

714
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: Josey. Sorry, I'm sorry.

715
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is I believe that we

716
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: didn't just like walk out of some ooze as like

717
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: these these fully formed whatever that said. I do think

718
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: that that ooz or whatever created it or or what

719
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: formed humanity, because I do believe the ooh's part of it, right,

720
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Just I don't believe that that was like completely independent

721
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: of a greater being imagining whatever. I don't know that

722
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: that being takes any form that we've ever like presented

723
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: it as you.

724
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: I guess my question is, do you believe that there

725
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: is a supreme being, one who loved's over good and

726
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: one who lords over evil.

727
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't necessarily know that. I believe

728
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: in the binary good and evil well enough to know

729
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: that they're lording over it in that way.

730
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: That's the most serial killer answer you could have had.

731
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Fuck, Okay, there's good guys and there's bad guys.

732
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: A clear line.

733
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: No one's ever done anything on the other side of

734
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the line that doesn't match their personality. Okay, I mean,

735
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: do you believe in God? Are you a god man? Yeah?

736
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: I believe in intelligent designs somewhat. I don't think that

737
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: we got it right, Like I don't believe a lot

738
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: of Bible shit, I don't believe that there was a.

739
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Flood, That's what I'm saying.

740
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't really that. That doesn't make a

741
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me.

742
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: I think a bunch of motherfuckers were good storytellers and

743
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: we're we're real bought in on the stories. But I don't.

744
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: I don't think humans figured it out.

745
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: There's not even that many other stories. It's like if

746
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: you look at Christianity and then you look at like Xastionism,

747
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: pretty similar, completely different time periods, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,

748
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, I don't, I don't believe in that,

749
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, there could be something up there.

750
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the devil a shrug and then

751
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: checks for his phone. I love.

752
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Because now I'm worried that, like something's gonna happen.

753
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: God's just sending you a message like hey, bro, you

754
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: fucked up, man. Yeah you asked to fight. You asked

755
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: to fight Satan early, and I was like, yo, okay,

756
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: I fuck with this dude, but then you denounced me.

757
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: No.

758
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: I worry that if he, if there isn't real God,

759
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna send me back to work in the car wash.

760
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: That's like my big fear in life for anything.

761
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Fuck, I mean, it's a fair fear, bro.

762
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: They got you in there. You gotta wash rims with

763
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: a toothbrush. It's like terrible. Oh ship, Yeah, I felt

764
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: like slavery.

765
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: You were at a very specific car wash though, Okay,

766
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: yeah you were. They were. They were trying to class

767
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: up the car wash experience because I've gotten my car

768
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: washed fair amount and I've never seen a motherfucker with

769
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: a toothbrush go to any of my knooks or crannies.

770
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: That makes you sorry for you.

771
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't believe in God, because there's

772
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: no toothbrushes, and mynooks are my grannies in.

773
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Fact, cranny free, cranny free, toothbrush free cranny. No Jesus,

774
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: I understand that.

775
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. All right, we're gonna take a break.

776
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more David Boria more.

777
00:43:50,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: My mama told me, oh, I found the clip too,

778
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: what's the clip? Bedie Murphy talking about Sammy Davis ju.

779
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Sammy told me he worshiped the devil.

780
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: We were in uh d'An tannis on that restaurant with

781
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: all the pictures of it. Sammy was like, you know,

782
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: Satan is as powerful as God.

783
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, what talking about?

784
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: Why do you think there's so much anger in the

785
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: world and killing and murder and the Shatan? And he

786
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: saw my reaction to it and kind of lightened up

787
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: on it and he was like that, Dan, Tanna is

788
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: dark and it's the candles on the table and Sammy's

789
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: face over the candle. You know, Shatan is as powerful

790
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: as God.

791
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean if that's that it, why

792
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: would he lie about that?

793
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: That's too specific? That's too specific, right.

794
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Satan is as powerful as God. And then

795
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: he didn't have a fri and he was like, huh,

796
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: what not, I'm.

797
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: Playing No, I just kidd.

798
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get back in the stand up.

799
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: But if somebody as powerful as Sammy Davis Junior, because

800
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: he was powerful, right, he was pretty powerful. Yeah, So

801
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: that makes me think and it's like he was pretty

802
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: powerful and it's not that's not like a well known thing.

803
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: So it makes me think, is there like a crew

804
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: of people who worship the devil behind the scenes?

805
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Probably?

806
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: And that goes back to if there was ever an

807
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: industry that I've observed, which basically it's just too car

808
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: washing entertainment, if there was ever a place where something

809
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: like that could thrive behind closed doors, I do think

810
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: entertainment would be a place where that could happen.

811
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: Right, because of how many things we naturally do that

812
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: are sort of like hidden in secrecy and illusion.

813
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: And things like and things like like like like scientology

814
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: and things like that, Like there is like levels of

815
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: that type or like when Kabbala swept through Hollywood, like

816
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry is prone to having things like that affected.

817
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: I feel like.

818
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I guess my question for you is,

819
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: do you then, because you're saying like you believe in

820
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: intelligent design, you don't think that it's necessarily taking the

821
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: form that we're presenting it. We're similar in that way.

822
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Do you then still believe in the devil? Are you

823
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: like yo, but the Devil's realist? Fuck?

824
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: No, because it's like, you know, you gotta have white

825
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: to have black or whatever. So no, I don't. I

826
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: guess I believe because I also have a very strong

827
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: feeling that it's like dangerous to make your own god

828
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: like completely. I think that kind of fucks people up

829
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: a lot of times. But I do think that like

830
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: if there is a higher power. I see it as

831
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: being more kind of ambivalent to the left or the like.

832
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't see it being as supreme. I don't see

833
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: whatever the designer is is being supreme good so that

834
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: there's no reason for supreme evil.

835
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel similarly, and it does feel crazy, I guess.

836
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: And this is where the question goes, is why if

837
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: our theory, if what you're presenting potentially is true, that

838
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: like this is much more of like a neutral god

839
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: who isn't choosing between good and bad, but merely just

840
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: showing humanity as it is reflecting back at itself. Right,

841
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: If that is possible, then why the devil? For all

842
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: these individuals? What is the devil in fact meant to

843
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: do for them if they're investing?

844
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I think the devil it

845
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: to me, it seems like the devil is supposed to symbolize,

846
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: like you were saying before, like a quick fix. It's

847
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: supposed to be like the antithesis of like hard work

848
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: and earning it. So I feel like on a moral level,

849
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: it's more like even if you're even if you're not

850
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: saying even like the devil is just like a stand

851
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: in for like loose morals and ethics, you know what

852
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean.

853
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh, so the Devil is more like a concise mission

854
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: statement relating to much more fucked up shit, right, And

855
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: I think.

856
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: It's I think it more stands for like the idea

857
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: of not having disciplined in your life or whatever. You

858
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

859
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: I got you. It's like, ah, yeah, I share holes

860
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: with my boys, and I'll wake up at a reasonable

861
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: hour exact worship the Devil exactly exactly.

862
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not I'm not doing I'm not waking

863
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: every day with a up every day with a purpose.

864
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: I'm not dedicated to anything, you know what I mean.

865
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: I won't. I don't work hard. I think that's all

866
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: the Devil.

867
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to that point. One of the things

868
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: that always surprises me with the music, specifically the music

869
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: being played backwards, is that the Devil's never putting like

870
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: a message in that's really like a fucking crazy message,

871
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like it's always like

872
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: Satan's real that that's the big message. Yea, that they're

873
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: slipping into this shit is like Satan, He's alive, And

874
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: it's like I okay, cool man, Like you're not I'm

875
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: not learning anything. It's not like Satan believes in you

876
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: and wants to talk to you about repairing your relationship

877
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: with your family members.

878
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: It's just like or even like go kill your parents.

879
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never that active and so way. It feels like,

880
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: to your your point, just dumb dumbs trying to make

881
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: a quick fix more than actually them having figured out

882
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: the exact articulation of like this is how we we

883
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: get into the minds of the youth and destroy God.

884
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: Right, right, No, I don't. I don't think that. Yeah,

885
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, if the devil is real, it can't

886
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: be these passive messages. It's twenty twenty two. The kids

887
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: are Internet savvy. Everyone's media trains. You have to have

888
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: like a pointed direction about your ship. You can't just

889
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: be out here saying you exist. That's not gonna get

890
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: it done.

891
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotta be the Satan, like Lucifer says, killed

892
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: the President on Thursday, needs to be in the music

893
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: for me to believe.

894
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: That this is true, Like, right, Satan is shit, right,

895
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: like NFTs are mine like shit like that, Like he's

896
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: gotta lie.

897
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: He's just bragging, he's like that shit. Yeah, I made

898
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: you buy pictures that you could just have, you dumb bitch.

899
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: That's me. You think, why wan say, bitch?

900
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Do you think Satan doesn't cuss? He's like real clean.

901
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: I think that he's almost so smooth he doesn't.

902
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: Have to whoa. That feels like what Will Smith got

903
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: told before he started rapping, You know.

904
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: What I mean?

905
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: You know the best rapper is so smooth he doesn't

906
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: have to cuts. And Will was like hell yeah, oh yeah.

907
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Well, because I always like and this is and this

908
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: is something about me. I've always assumed that if the

909
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: Devil were real, I would be very susceptible, like and

910
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: I always think, who would turn me? Like somebody really smooth? Like,

911
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: who's that guy? Not Uncle el Roy? Who's that actor?

912
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's.

913
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Got like the deep voice ving rings?

914
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he was the guy with that

915
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: he was in Uh he was Kirby Kirby in Dead Presidents.

916
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: Oh ship, hold on, I'm looking at looking him up.

917
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: You're not talking about the All State guy, are you?

918
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: No? No, I met him once. Didn't feel like the devil.

919
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh are you talking about the dude? David Keith? David

920
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: David George to me, who seems like the devil, right,

921
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: And Keith David doesn't seem like he has to cuts.

922
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: He just kind of yeah, he's just kind of smooth

923
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: like that.

924
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just kidding. But also doesn't he seem like

925
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: that's what the devil would look like? Hey, No, he's

926
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: got Keith David. And I'm a big fan. But he's

927
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: got an evil fucking face.

928
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm a huge fan. That's why I like you.

929
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a goddamn devil's face if I've ever

930
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: seen one.

931
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy looks like he could, like he could

932
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: just say some wild like you would walk into a

933
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 2: room and it would be just him and he's got

934
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: like some brandy and he would just say some crazy shit. Yeah.

935
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Keith David.

936
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: And you're lucky if it's Satanism, because it might just

937
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: be him like scatting at you and you're like, this

938
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: is this is so much scarier Keith David.

939
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be alone with Keith David, regardless of what

940
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

941
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: So the last little bit that I'll bring up in

942
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: all of this, it got me thinking about more contemporary examples, right,

943
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: because if we're talking about Slayer. We're talking about John Lennon, Earth,

944
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: Wind and Fire, all these different groups.

945
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: You should be talking about John Legend.

946
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: John Legend, And we're talking about not cheating John Legend.

947
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Not that early shit where he was constantly cheating on

948
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: his girls. No loving John Legend, civil rights activist, John Legend.

949
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: Sexiest man, People's Sexiest man Alive, John Legend.

950
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Sexiest mouse Alive. John Legend.

951
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shit was a sham.

952
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It made me maybe stop believing

953
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: in anything. It was who who says? I never heard

954
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: that from him.

955
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: No, there was like a short John bat singer who's

956
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: not known for being sexy, that's already maybe the devil's work.

957
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: There was like a short window where he had like

958
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: started working out and got like a haircut, and every

959
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: girl was like, god damn John John Legend is sexy.

960
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: But that was like twelve years ago, and he was

961
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: He didn't have Christy Tigan, he didn't have kids yet.

962
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: It was truly like a fucking brief blip in in

963
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: our in our giant universe.

964
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember sexy John Legend. I always

965
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: remember assistant Principal ass John Legend.

966
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh sweater vest John Legend.

967
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

968
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: That's when he was cheating on on everybody.

969
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean maybe that was maybe that was sexy.

970
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: I can't tell, I can't. I just he doesn't seem

971
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: sexy to me. I don't know what to say.

972
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Look up John Legend sexy. There there's pictures of him

973
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: with coum gutters. He got them them cum gutters.

974
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: I think Keith David is sexier.

975
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: Than I'm not arguing against that.

976
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: I think he does. Got the d'angelo's out.

977
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, but again those are twelve years ago pictures.

978
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't contemporary shit, do you know what

979
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: I mean?

980
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I got you, I got you. I don't

981
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: like this at all.

982
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: You gotta delete that from your arch history.

983
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: No.

984
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: So, one of the things that got me thinking about

985
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: is some of the more contemporary examples, and one of

986
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the first people that came to mind for me was

987
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Travis Scott. Right, Travis Scott is somebody who is constantly

988
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: being sort of like associated, whether intentionally or unintentionally, with

989
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: like the devil and Satanism and shit.

990
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Right. He also seems like the kind of guy who

991
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: would he feels like he would dabble in that mm hmm,

992
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: just because he seems like kind of like a I

993
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: don't so, what what did you find about Travis Scott?

994
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: Did you find anything?

995
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that I did find was

996
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: that there were a lot of people accusing him, specifically

997
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: around the Astro World catastrophe right of this festival where

998
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: people died because he kept performing or not because because

999
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: it was overcrowded, yeah, and because people were not responsible

1000
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: about making sure that there was like safety protocols put

1001
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: in place, and then he kept performing while these safety

1002
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: protocols sort of had fallen, which people then put on

1003
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: him as his responsibility, whether right or wrong, who knows

1004
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: either way. There's like a big TikTok sub sect much

1005
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: like Ebomb's world, where they are very adamant that he

1006
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: was doing some demonic shit intentionally that day that like

1007
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: his stage apparently was shaped like a crooked, upside down crucifix,

1008
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: which was meant to be a pathway from Satan from

1009
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Hell to like Earth that he was introducing. He was

1010
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt apparently that had people walking through a

1011
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: doorway where they like pass through the doorway and then

1012
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: have horns on the other side. And then there was

1013
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, videos obviously of him like

1014
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: sort of like staring very sort of dead eyed at

1015
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: people as they're being ambulanced out or dragged out of

1016
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: the concert while it's happening.

1017
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: All right, I want to say this is very careful.

1018
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm listening. I'm excited.

1019
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: Here is this that goes back to this point of

1020
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: then the devil is weak as hell. All that all

1021
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: that million dollar crooked cross stage tickets bought and you

1022
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: can only ice like four people. That's like, that's that's bad.

1023
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. That's not good stats. Baby, that's terrible.

1024
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: You're a loser.

1025
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad free throw percentage.

1026
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like you did all that to just throw.

1027
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: Up a couple of bricks, Like, all right, Satan if

1028
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: anything is not effective at his job.

1029
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel if that's if that's the case, Okay,

1030
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean the internet feels differently. They feel like the

1031
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: I think it was eight, if I'm not mistaken, eight

1032
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: people who died. There was enough to prove that Satan

1033
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: was secretly behind all of this. Now you gotta hit

1034
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty to make me even move.

1035
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: I will say that one of the things that I

1036
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: struggled with inside of this is the Travis Scott of

1037
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: it all right, Like he look Travis Scott at the

1038
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: core of him, and I get it. He dabbles, he

1039
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: sort of plays, and he feels very weird and strange

1040
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: to the art form he's in. But Travis Scott at

1041
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: its core is still a nigga from Houston, Texas. And

1042
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: his real name is Jack quees You know what I'm saying. Really, yeah,

1043
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: this man's his name is Jack Queeze. Ain't no country

1044
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: nigga named Jack Queese ever read the Satanic Bible? Do

1045
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You can't read the Satanic

1046
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: Bible in line at the Turkey leg hut you have,

1047
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: It's not possible. They'll kill you, those big old corn

1048
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: bread church people will beat the fuck out of you.

1049
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: I don't think you can read it in Houston, to

1050
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: be quite honest.

1051
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's just this feels like a

1052
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: stretch to say that. I don't believe that Travis Scott

1053
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: reads much less it's reading. I'm on the best practices

1054
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: for introducing hell gateways.

1055
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: And as far as him staring dead eyed. He does

1056
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: that a lot because I've always wondered with Travis Scott

1057
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know if you're faster or slow?

1058
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: Wait? Have you never seen Travis Scott play basketball?

1059
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: No?

1060
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, you've never seen it?

1061
00:59:59,360 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: Is it good?

1062
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 5: Oh?

1063
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 3: No?

1064
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: I want? His name is Chuck Wheeze?

1065
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: He does? He absolutely does. I'll look it up real

1066
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: quick and send it to you if you can.

1067
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this. I never even thought about

1068
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: him playing basketball because he went to art school.

1069
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, Travis Scott plays basketball baby.

1070
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: Like a lot.

1071
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Uh who hard to know?

1072
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: Ah man, I'm so excited.

1073
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: But he he certainly moves with the same confidence he

1074
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: moves with on stage.

1075
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: I want him to be good. I want him to

1076
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: be good.

1077
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: You want Travis Scott to be good?

1078
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: I want him to be like I want him to

1079
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: be like unselfish, like really really good passing.

1080
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: WHOA, you're a big Travis Scott fan.

1081
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't do that to me.

1082
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: You like that? Those kids die?

1083
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: No? Why did you do that with his arm? What's happening?

1084
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: Baby?

1085
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: That's not what that is.

1086
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: That's what Trav guy who can look like oh, this

1087
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: is my favorite party. The Yeah, there was an angle

1088
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: that you'll have to see at a different time.

1089
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: I think he's just trying athletic. I think he plays

1090
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: basketball like he went to arts school.

1091
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one where you can see from the back,

1092
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Speaker 1: from his back how crazy the release is. And that

1093
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: was the one that I was most joyful in sharing.

1094
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: But here we are.

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: That's okay. That was okay, That wasn't That wasn't as

1096
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: bad as it could have been.

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Speaker 1: No, and he is much worse than than what those

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01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: videos sort of reflected.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I was a rap star, first

1100
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: thing I do, I play that guy lethal shooter, come

1101
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: get you right immediately.

1102
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Speaker 1: Come on, man, I want to be in the All

1103
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: Star Game, and and people will be like, yo, he

1104
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: could hoop. I'm not. I'm not trying to make the league.

1105
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fix whatever, you know, dreams I lost.

1106
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: I just need people to be like, hey, you know who.

1107
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: You want to be when compared with other people in

1108
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: your field at basketball, they want to be like, hey,

1109
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: stand up comedians. It's like Leinston Kerman yep. I feel

1110
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: like Clayton English. I don't know, you know, a garden Swarts.

1111
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Speaker 1: He's pretty good.

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01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1113
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: I think Travis Scott to me feels much more like

1114
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: just a dude playing in in imagery right that services

1115
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: the selling of his brand more than an actual devil worship.

1116
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: I can believe that as well. I mean, I I

1117
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Speaker 2: just he's like a hype.

1118
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: Beast, yes exactly. And he's he's then making devil worshiping

1119
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Speaker 1: like palatable for a fucking tweem who.

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Speaker 2: He's a sellout. He's a devil sellout.

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01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's truly a devil kne and that that

1122
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a term that I thought I would use today.

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1124
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: I love it so much.

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: I never that's he's a devil.

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01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: Travis Scott is a devil coon.

1127
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Can we please title this episode double Coons? I think

1129
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: it's the only option we have at this point.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, he's a I'm gonna call man. I'm gonna man,

1131
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 2: my little brother just left. I would have called him

1132
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: a devil coon. I'm gonna say. I'm saying that every

1133
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it to the barbershop.

1134
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna your brother is gonna be like, yo, what

1135
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: the fuck.

1136
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: He's not gonna know how to take it.

1137
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: That's you'll be a while. He's a double coon.

1138
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: He is a devil It's perfect. It's too good. Do

1139
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: you think Sammy Davis Jr. Was a devil coon or

1140
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: was he?

1141
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: I think based off of what we now know from

1142
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: this one conversation with Jerry Seinfeld and Eddie Murphy, then yeah,

1143
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: Sammy Davis was a devil coon.

1144
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: All right? Before this episode ends, can we just list

1145
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: four known devil coons?

1146
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Well, Sammy Davis was a one eyed devil coon, which

1147
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: feels like a worst that's the worst version of it.

1148
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: The only kind that's worst is a Kentucky devil coon.

1149
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kentucky Kentucky devil coon sounds bad.

1150
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, So Sammy Davis Jr. No devil coon.

1151
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Travis Scott suspected devil.

1152
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: Coon, suspected devil coon.

1153
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: I would I would go so far as to say

1154
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Terry Crews is a devil.

1155
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: Terry CRUs is a hot if anybody was ever a

1156
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: devil coon one, if there was ever one.

1157
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: I think Terry Crewis is definitely pulling in devil cruise

1158
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: like he he feels like he's definitely playing a different

1159
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: version of Satanism than Travis Scott and Sammy Davis.

1160
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, No, I think he's the one who's really

1161
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: believe in it. Yeah, like he's that's he's find so

1162
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: hard to be so soft, like to be seen it

1163
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: you to porn just because you're devil Cooning.

1164
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels like sort of the uh, the tom

1165
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: Cruise of his field as far as Satanism is concerned,

1166
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: where it's like, you're so good at it, we we

1167
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: don't even want you to hide it.

1168
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you to be out. Yeah he's yeah, okay, yeah,

1169
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: he might be King Devil Coon.

1170
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: I think he's King Devil Coope for sure.

1171
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay. And then who's the last one? Maybe Brian Pumper.

1172
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I can see that. You gotta you gotta fucking

1173
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: diversify your bonds.

1174
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

1175
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: All of them do a different thing.

1176
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: It's all different.

1177
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: If if Satan needed four horsemen of his version of

1178
01:05:52,440 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: the apocalypse, you are glass eide Sammy Davis. You want

1179
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: silly jumpshot Travis Scott, you want buff ass terry crews,

1180
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: and then you want button naked Brian Puffer with a

1181
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: long ass dick next to a horse's long ass dick.

1182
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: This makes perfect sense to me. The four double coons

1183
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: of the apocket. What a what a combination?

1184
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's like it's the perfect access of evil.

1185
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: They hidding every spot.

1186
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: All the bad, all the bad.

1187
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: There is not a black person who subscribes that this podcast,

1188
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: or frankly any other podcast that has not at some

1189
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: point invested in one of those four people.

1190
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, to their detriment, because we all did it. We

1191
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: all did it. We saw we saw white chicks. We

1192
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: thought Terry Crews is harmless.

1193
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like, he gets it, he gets what

1194
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: this joke is. He's on our side. No, but never na,

1195
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: he meant every word.

1196
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: And we've also who hasn't who hasn't invested some time

1197
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: in Brian Bumper?

1198
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: Come on, dog, come on.

1199
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh no, you hear that song

1200
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: King Dingling? He made you head that song? No you

1201
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: never heard King Dingling by Brian Bumper. This last video

1202
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: for today. I swear to God, No I haven't. I didn't.

1203
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I thought you were cool. This is You're

1204
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: gonna love this. Oh man, if this, if if there

1205
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: was ever a video of it, screamed devil Coon in

1206
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: double I can't wait for double Coon merch to start

1207
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: dropping on the internet.

1208
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: We get Devil Cone T shirts, we can get double

1209
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: coot our wear a double Coon T shirt without any

1210
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: other context attached to it.

1211
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you're not right now.

1212
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: It would mean the world to me if that was

1213
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: the the product that we started pushing on this show.

1214
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: Is that the first time you've ever said that?

1215
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never called anybody a devil coon before.

1216
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: Damn, this is a good day. All right, this is

1217
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: the last. But this is this. You're gonna watch this

1218
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be like, oh, this is devil cooner.

1219
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm excited.

1220
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't wait. I'm so glad I get

1221
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: to show you this. You should read that thought.

1222
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: When you have a dream and a passion, keep going

1223
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: and major investor will recognize. Pumping Oh no, Pumper piece

1224
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: and love album coming soon. Okay, King Dangling. He had

1225
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: to turn it down.

1226
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 3: He needs to know.

1227
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: You need to know whoa. My favorite part is that

1228
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: he did it all with the same cadence as the

1229
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: boys from the Super Bowl Shuffle. It's like the yeah, yeah,

1230
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: maybe the worst rap I've ever heard anybody rap.

1231
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's so, that's that's double cooning in his finest.

1232
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's because you're selling. He's selling us back as

1233
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: like these animals for just swinging dicks and fucking each

1234
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: other's gurgles and ship.

1235
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: He said, He said, I have nothing else to offer.

1236
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't exist except for this goddamn ding aling.

1237
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: And this crazy dance. He thought that was gonna catch'll.

1238
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: He was like, hold on, pause the music, y'all need

1239
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: to hear this first king dingling dance.

1240
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so foud you didn't know that's what your body

1241
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: was doing something.

1242
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: He's like, don't you dare confuse that with the fox trot.

1243
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: That's the king dingleling dance right there.

1244
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Oh you thought this was the twist you to go.

1245
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: That's the king dingling dance.

1246
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: I think king dingling should be the official dance of

1247
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 2: the devil coon.

1248
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: That's that's great. So they're four horsemen all lined up

1249
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: on a hill. Their backs they're they're in shadow, They've

1250
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: got these hoods on, and as they descend the hill,

1251
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: they're doing the king dinging dance. Are they on top

1252
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: of their horses or is this just I think? Oh,

1253
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: they stand on their horses.

1254
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're standing on horses like and they're

1255
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: doing it. They're doing the dance. Wow.

1256
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: Oh this is hard. This is scary.

1257
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: Shit, this is fucked up. I worry that it's like

1258
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: a bloody marry thing where if you do the King

1259
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: dandling three times alone in the mirror, come out to

1260
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 2: fuck your girl.

1261
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: It's like some candy. You just hear your girls scream

1262
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: out because Brian Pumper's up in there. Jesus Christ, oh man, Well, Bory,

1263
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think I think I

1264
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: think we covered everything we needed to cover in this episode.

1265
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: Please tell the people where they can find you what

1266
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: cool shit you have going on, you.

1267
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: Know, just cool guy jokes seventy seven on Instagram. I'm

1268
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: doing a show at the Illegion in Los Angeles September fifteenth.

1269
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: You could find the link to tickets on my Instagram.

1270
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: Come see Langston Kerman at Fadedcomedyenver dot com. Faded Denver

1271
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: best black and brown comics in the country. We bring

1272
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 2: them to Denver just for you. Langston's going to be

1273
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: headlining September sixteenth, right, yes, right, yeah, and that's all

1274
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: and you know everything else. Just don't don't don't do

1275
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 2: the king dingling alone in the mirror.

1276
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't you do it three times? Because God,

1277
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: that's it for you.

1278
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: Unless you don't love your girl, are you that big

1279
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: bumper fan?

1280
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: Or you're willing to risk losing your girl for this?

1281
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: You don't want that?

1282
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, so go to David's site, go

1283
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: to all his shows. I don't know what we're doing anymore.

1284
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm oh, I'm at Faded September sixteenth, September A through

1285
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 1: the eleventh. I believe I'll be in Sandman Comedy Club

1286
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: in Richmond, Virgina, and then I got some other shit

1287
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: coming up in LA that I would love for people

1288
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: to show up to. Specifically, I believe nine twenty two,

1289
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at at the I'm saying it in

1290
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: weird ways. September twenty second, I'm gonna be at at

1291
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: the lyric hyperiod during an hour that I would love

1292
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: for folks to show up to tell them my little jokes,

1293
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1294
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: Beautiful? All right?

1295
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to send us your drops, your

1296
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: own conspiracy theories, you can send those to my mama

1297
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear

1298
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: from you. And if you want to see video and

1299
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: all of the things that we watched today, those videos

1300
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: will be in the episode notes of this episode, so

1301
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: you can watch all our bullshit and otherwise that's it

1302
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: by bitch.

1303
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: Chips and your.

1304
01:13:54,280 --> 01:14:01,440
Speaker 1: Quality best racist violayer ows and money.

1305
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Speaker 3: I ships and men, turkey stuffing. I can't tell me

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Speaker 3: nothing