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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know that. I was like thirty,

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Speaker 4: I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: And I think to be in this town, especially to

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Speaker 2: How often are you writing now?

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Speaker 4: A few times a week?

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Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's like my favorite part of this whole.

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Speaker 2: know you had a baby. Yeah, and I just heard,

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Speaker 2: well read do you have another baby?

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Speaker 2: So how does he feel about two girls?

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Speaker 1: Colby's pumped, He's you know, we this is just what

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Speaker 4: We have a girl dog.

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Speaker 2: We're just girls.

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Speaker 4: It's all girls.

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Speaker 2: And Kobe, your process, Tell me where you are in

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Speaker 1: Got to work on that with Nathan Chapman and Parker Welling,

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Speaker 4: Like, I was hoping you would say that.

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Speaker 2: Where are you at now? Publishing deal? Not anymore? No,

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Speaker 2: It is respecting.

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Speaker 4: I ask myself this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking a way of an insulting we. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, no. I I saw Scott Steppa Coffee and

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Speaker 2: so they must like to write with Scott. You don't.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like you need somebody to set that up.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, for anybody who doesn't know how it works,

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Speaker 1: So it's valuable and it's hard to get into those rooms,

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Speaker 4: And I haven't had a publishing deal. I think my

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Speaker 1: get into rooms. And there's just something about this town

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Speaker 1: that just it just continues to amaze me. How I mean,

446
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Speaker 1: I met Parker Welling. I don't know if you know

447
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: Parker personally, but she's just she's a hit songwriter. She

448
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 1: wrote Yours for Russell Dickerson, She's wrote, I mean a

449
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Speaker 1: million other things that you guys have heard on the radio.

450
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Speaker 1: And I mean I was star struck by her as

451
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Speaker 1: a writer for years. And my management team just got

452
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Speaker 1: a message from her one day saying that she wanted

453
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Speaker 1: to write with me because she saw a clip of

454
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Speaker 1: me singing at Whiskey Dam a song that yeah, and

455
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Speaker 1: she she and I connected and became friends, and she

456
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Speaker 1: just dove in with me and said, you know, I

457
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Speaker 1: want to I want to.

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Speaker 4: Help get you into room.

459
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Speaker 1: I want to help you get you into the rooms

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Speaker 1: that are going to elevate what you're already doing because

461
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Speaker 1: I believe in this and to have to have that

462
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Speaker 1: kind of thing happen without some of the criteria that

463
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Speaker 1: I thought I needed to have has has just been

464
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Speaker 1: honestly mind blowing to me. And fast forward to other,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, rooms like with Nathan Chapman and Scott stepakov

466
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Speaker 1: and I mean just countless other I mean, I feel

467
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Speaker 1: like I have the writing schedule that I have dreamt

468
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Speaker 1: of and I don't have anybody opening those doors for me.

469
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Speaker 2: It's just me.

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Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

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Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: So do you want to publish Angel? Yes, it's it's

473
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: the goal. Are you? Are you like shipping songs? Hey?

474
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

475
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah?

476
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: Like, what can I help you do?

477
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Speaker 4: Thank you?

478
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, I'm at a point where I've

479
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time, kind of spent a lot

480
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Speaker 1: of time ten years knocking on doors and you know,

481
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Speaker 1: taking the meetings and doing the thing. And I think

482
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: I'm really at a point now where it's not a

483
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: necessity anymore for me. It's not a I have to

484
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Speaker 1: have the poishing deal to be successful. I have to

485
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Speaker 1: have a record label to be successful. And so now

486
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Speaker 1: I am truly just focused on creating the best music

487
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Speaker 1: that I can, fostering these incredible relationships and friendships that

488
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Speaker 1: I have, and just enjoying it. And then I think,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe then the right team will come along

490
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Speaker 1: with that once I'm already enjoying myself.

491
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think too. You're seeing, especially with labels,

492
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: it's becoming more and more prevalent that people don't have

493
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Speaker 2: labels because they don't need labels. Meaning if you don't

494
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Speaker 2: need the promotion, that's what a label does, right, Yeah,

495
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Speaker 2: And so I have friends that aren't even on labels.

496
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Speaker 2: And there were times where people leave their labels. I

497
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: mean for a while, Miranda left her label and ended

498
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Speaker 2: up he signing her. And it's a different example. Another

499
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Speaker 2: one of my friends. I don't mention who it is,

500
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: but he left his label. He's like, I don't need

501
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: a record label. He has a bunch of hits, and

502
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't need a label because I don't

503
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: need the promotion because I'm doing it a bit different now.

504
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: So label's definitely not a thing. But I I think

505
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: you're really good. I think you're really good other than

506
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Speaker 2: I just like as a person. Yeah, I mean, let

507
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Speaker 2: me send some stuff off to tell me what I'll

508
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Speaker 2: do it. Everything's up. So which song if I were

509
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Speaker 2: to send one song from this project off, because nobody's

510
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: gonna listen for more than fifty seconds.

511
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they listened to like this.

512
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Speaker 2: They're just gonna listen that you might get him for

513
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Speaker 2: a minute, especially if I go, hey, we listen to this,

514
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: and you might get him for a minute. But I

515
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: could send an EP and they're like, well, which something long?

516
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Speaker 2: But the same thing. I do the same thing. I'm

517
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Speaker 2: not hating on everybody else, but it's like, you should

518
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: listen to this artist, even if it's not for work,

519
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: even if it's for you might enjoy them. Okay, well

520
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: let me see. Oh you send me album a great?

521
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: Now which one? And then I'm like, did I pick

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: the wrong one? So it's like, be very specific, but

523
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Speaker 2: tell me, like which which song represents you as a

524
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: writer the best? Because as soon as we're done here,

525
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Speaker 2: I'll fire it off to a couple of people and

526
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Speaker 2: be like, hey, look at her. I think she's really good.

527
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Speaker 2: But I do think that, or I wouldn't say that,

528
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Speaker 2: and nothing may come of it, or something may come

529
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Speaker 2: of it or something not now. It may not happen now,

530
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: but it gets to somebody, gets to somebody, you know

531
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Speaker 2: how the world works.

532
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Speaker 4: I I just so appreciate you and I love that

533
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Speaker 4: about you just being willing.

534
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Speaker 2: To didn't tell me a song? Yes, I've done nothing, Okay,

535
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Speaker 2: I just I'm not going to do it unless you

536
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Speaker 2: tell me. Tell me a song.

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Speaker 1: As a writer, I am most proud of pretty Good Living,

538
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Speaker 1: which is funny because that's the new one too.

539
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this right now.

540
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Speaker 4: So I love this. I want to know who you're doing.

541
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Speaker 2: No, no, let's see.

542
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Speaker 3: Of the publisher.

543
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Speaker 2: I have a couple of things I'm gonna do here. Okay,

544
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 2: so I know someone who owns part of a publisher company.

545
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: And then I have my manager is significantly intertwined into

546
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Speaker 2: this world because he also is a major part of

547
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: a management company. And I will also go, hey, here

548
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: she is, you do the thing, because he'll know who's

549
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: looking for what and what's looking for who. And again,

550
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: nothing may happen, okay, but nothing for sure is gonna

551
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: happen if nothing's happening, but something may happen if something's happening, right,

552
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Speaker 2: I got to keep your line on the water. It's

553
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 2: exactly so.

554
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Speaker 1: But I also, well, you're your line in the water

555
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: means a lot more than my line in the water.

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate this growing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, at this stage, I would say professionally that's accurate,

558
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean it's always going to be that way,

559
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean in three years I'm not like

560
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: he said about that, I need some help. You know,

561
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: you never know. So it's like get with your people, listen.

562
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Speaker 1: That's how I'll know I've made it is when you

563
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Speaker 1: when you have to ask me for.

564
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Speaker 2: Something that's okay. I don't think that's true, but fair enough.

565
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a little little recon work for you

566
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: and see what's up because I think you. I think

567
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: you're really good. And I also didn't know you didn't

568
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: have publishing deal right now, so I'm happy to at least,

569
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, see if other people maybe just weren't aware.

570
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: Thank you, Well, why haven't done anything with you? Welcome?

571
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Speaker 4: I will? You texted, Oh, I don't know what you

572
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: were doing on your phone.

573
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: But you don't know I was texting and I said,

574
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: oh yeah. I said, hey, I'm going to cover the name.

575
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Do you still on part of the publish company?

576
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Speaker 3: I do?

577
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Do you need something?

578
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

579
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Sure do.

580
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Speaker 4: I love how quick you get responses.

581
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Again in this season, I get responses quick I might

582
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: not in two years. I didn't always get this quick

583
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: a response. I'll be very honest with you. The last

584
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: few years have been good to your friend. That's me.

585
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Speaker 2: It's been very good. It's been good. Ye people respond quickly,

586
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: they answer the phone, that type of thing. But it

587
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: wasn't like that.

588
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Speaker 4: That's great, you know.

589
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it feels being pregnant, Like people

590
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: will open the door for you.

591
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: That's funny analogy.

592
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: It's so funny, Like you're just like, wow, why is

593
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: everyone being so nice today? And then you realize that

594
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: you look like you're struggling everywhere you go.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm gonna send.

596
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Speaker 3: This, uh share, Okay, what do you.

597
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say. But what

598
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 2: would you want someone to say about you if they

599
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: were like check this song out? Or like what what communication?

600
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: How would you communicate it? If you were me about you.

601
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: As an artist, no writer?

602
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: Like how would you like me to communicate this?

603
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: Now?

604
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: I may not communicate it the way that you say,

605
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: but like, what would you like me to say to

606
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: somebody who could possibly make a decision like hey, if

607
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: you have a few minutes, listen to this, or like

608
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: I think she starts is really good? Or signer or

609
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: I kill you, like there's all these options.

610
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: I think I think listen to this and.

611
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and obviously listen to the whole project if

612
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: if you get a moment, because I think it it

613
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: all of them showcase different different parts of me as

614
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Speaker 1: a writer and an artist.

615
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: But that's pretty standard though. If I say that's what

616
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: everybody says, yeah, and I think it's actually accurate.

617
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: I do believe it at the same time, but I

618
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: think the story in that and I think the way

619
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Speaker 1: that that song like, I'm just I'm proud of every

620
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: line of that song like that. That wasn't one that

621
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I left where I listened to the demo and I thought, oh,

622
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: we need to tweak that second verse or we need

623
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: to you know, that one just was had a pretty

624
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: bow on it from the minute we walked out.

625
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Speaker 2: And Okay, that's what I'm writing. And I'm not lying,

626
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating. I mean, I'll show it to you.

627
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: But I said, say, I'm just I'm.

628
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Speaker 4: Just proud of that one.

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Speaker 2: I guess, so you're just proud of that. I'm not

630
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: gonna say no, you say whatever. You I'm gonna say,

631
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Speaker 2: I'm proud of this one. Why would I say I'm

632
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: proud of I didn't do crap so you love every

633
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: line you're I just take what she said.

634
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: And he's like, actually, I'm a co writer.

635
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm pregnant. Yeah, Okay. My person that

636
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm messaging has a pretty significant position, and I know

637
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: he travels a lot internationally. Even so I'm going to say,

638
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: listen to this a few times when you fly. I

639
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: can even show you this. I said, listen to this

640
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: a few times because I'm not putting the pressure on, like,

641
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: listen to this and let me know, because I hate

642
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: when people do that to me.

643
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, because everyone's busy, everyone's in the middle of.

644
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: Something, So listen to this a few times when you fly, etc.

645
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: Et cetera. I said, she doesn't have a pubdial. She's

646
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: good refreshing in case you guys were looking at new people.

647
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: That's literally what I'm saying, because that's my voice and

648
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: that's how I feel.

649
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Speaker 5: I love it.

650
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: Okay, and I am sending boom. It has been sent.

651
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: That's one. I'll do another one after this after the interview,

652
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: but it's not This is not part of a bit.

653
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever done that during this, but

654
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: hopefully I have the track record at thinking that you're

655
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: a special artist that you don't feel like that was

656
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: just for a bit.

657
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: No, I just I just you you have going back

658
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: to talking about that first time that we met when

659
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: you did the duet on TikTok, you have you have

660
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: done this kind of thing for me more than once,

661
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: and I.

662
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: Just really appreciate it.

663
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the kind of thing that I

664
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: I go home at the end of the day and

665
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, Like I'm just pinching myself most days

666
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: that I'm here just showing up and I don't know, somebody,

667
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: somebody taking a chance on you is how it's.

668
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: How it happens.

669
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with that, and it's just it's

670
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: been an incredible for to be in my seat watching

671
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you text somebody because I believe it's like it's just

672
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: always been so genuine with you and I I I

673
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why, but I'm grateful, so

674
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: thank you.

675
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Fred Well, I know why should be grateful. I just

676
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: text to somebody that owns part of a publishing company. But no,

677
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

678
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: I believe you know I'm saying, I don't know why you.

679
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm kidding, and I feel the same way

680
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 2: about people that have done the same thing for me.

681
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: So just keep it going. One day you'll get to

682
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: believe in somebody and do the same thing, and they'll

683
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: be like, why do you even believe in me? And

684
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know what I do.

685
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I like it.

686
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: Oh, why'd your name it the way we started?

687
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's kind of fun. What Darcy's on my team.

688
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: She gets a little bit of credit for this, But

689
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: we we were.

690
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: Okay, we made a lyric bible.

691
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I typed out all of the lyrics in this entire

692
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: project and made them kind of pretty in a word,

693
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: doc and I was highlighting different things because.

694
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: None of the songs, none of the titles felt like

695
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: the title of the EP.

696
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: To me, Usually there's something that jumps out as, oh,

697
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: this is what the project's called. It's the third track title,

698
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: and that just didn't happen this time, because each song

699
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: felt like it didn't cover the entirety of the project.

700
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: And so I like how you did it, by the way,

701
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: I like when you name the project something that encompasses

702
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: the entire project.

703
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 4: Thank you.

704
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: It felt it felt unfinished to just like pick a

705
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: title and slap it on there, right, And it took

706
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: us a while. There was a few different songs and

707
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: pockets of lyrics that I was deciding between, and the

708
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: way we started as a line in what If We

709
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Broke Up, which ironically that song is what started this

710
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: whole project. That's the first time that I wrote with

711
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Nathan Chapman and Parkerwelling together, and.

712
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: That was about your husband, right, like what if you

713
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: broke up?

714
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, true true story, top to bottom. And that

715
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: that song, I mean, that was the first time we

716
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: had written together. I had no idea what was coming

717
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: of that day, but shortly after Nathan called and said,

718
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I want to you know, I want to cut a

719
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: few sides and pick some more songs and make this

720
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: a thing. And that song is what started the whole thing.

721
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: And Darcy pointed out the way we started as a

722
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: line as an option.

723
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: I just thought, oh my gosh, that is.

724
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: It's everything, because I've been doing this for ten years

725
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: and I still feel like I'm.

726
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: Just getting started.

727
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: And these songs are each kind of a different part

728
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: of that story of how I got started, how Colby

729
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: and I got started, and how we started our family,

730
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: and there's just there's so much in there.

731
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: I can't believe you were seventeen and you came here

732
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: by yourself. That's wild.

733
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: I can't either. I can't believe it.

734
00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 7: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

735
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 7: Bobby Cast.

736
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: So when you're seventeen and you move here, I mean,

737
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: you can even vote here like that matters. I don't

738
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: know what I can do. I can't vote. I mean,

739
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: you're you're not You're not. Are you an adult? Did

740
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: you do sign something that said you're seventeen a an adult?

741
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 2: Or no?

742
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: No, but I was.

743
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I moved in January when I was seventeen, and I

744
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: turned I was seventeen for about nine months here, so that's.

745
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: Almost the whole year. You're almost all of seventeen here.

746
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: I will say I did have a publishing deal at

747
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: the time with a lady named Kat grab It and

748
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Kay Fleming, who are just I mean, Kay's a Hall

749
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: of Fame songwriter. These women are incredible. I had a manager,

750
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: Leanne Falen, at the time, and we I had such

751
00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a strong support circle of in to that. It was

752
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: it was just this natural progression of I'd been taking

753
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: trips back and forth as soon as I graduated.

754
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: It just kind of felt like the right thing.

755
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to go to college because I told

756
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: my parents, I'm not gonna spend a bunch of money

757
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: and be in debt to you know, I don't need

758
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: a songwriting degree.

759
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: I don't need really. I mean, I was I was

760
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: immersing myself in the world that I wanted to be in,

761
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: and I felt like I was going to learn the

762
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: most by not going to school. And yeah, I had

763
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: I had like.

764
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Three secondary moms out here, and I think my parents

765
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: really felt like, Okay, she has a community and she's

766
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: got people looking out for I found a roommate on

767
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Facebook and she was I think nineteen, but we were

768
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: in the same boat.

769
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: She was.

770
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: Chasing an artist career as well, and it was just

771
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: it just felt normal, even though when you say it

772
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: on paper it does not look normal at all.

773
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: But it felt right, not at all. Yeah, were you

774
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: always super mature?

775
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: Yes? Even and I don't I'm not trying to say

776
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: that in a weird I asked.

777
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: You the question, though you didn't say, hey, I need

778
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: something because I need to say something. I'm super mature. No,

779
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: I asked because, like I said, I was extremely mature

780
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: at fifteen because I had to kind of grow into it, right.

781
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: I think we are the product of our circumstances in

782
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. I was adult mature as a

783
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: young kid because I had to develop those skills. Now emotionally,

784
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: my wife would say, now I'm not as not as

785
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: mature as like a normal nineteen year old, because I hadn't.

786
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: I never developed those skills because I was so hyper

787
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: focused on my career, because I was so scared.

788
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: But you had you developed, like you had survival skills

789
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: of like real world like street smart of how to operate.

790
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but I did not have the normal person skills.

791
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: So as I I was like weaponed out to like

792
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: whatever I needed to do to survive and thrive. I

793
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: didn't have the ability to like connect with someone on

794
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: a human level. I could put a microphone in front

795
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: me and do this all day and make people feel

796
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: like I'm their best friend. But when it was no microphone,

797
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. I know how

798
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship, I didn't know anything. I

799
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: mean my family, the family that nobody ever said they

800
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: loved each other. I never had told in a relationship.

801
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: I never had told that to anybody and to my wife.

802
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: When I never said that to family, it was not said,

803
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: so I didn't know how to feel it or communicate it.

804
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: And communicating it is I mean, it's hard for everybody,

805
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: let alone if you've never heard that, and I used

806
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: to hearing that.

807
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm getting better at it. But my point is

808
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: I was wildly mature in one area but not in another.

809
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: But I was, And I could have moved anywhere sixteen

810
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: or seventeen and been fine. But you're seventeen. I imagine you

811
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: had to have made a bunch of mature decisions for

812
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: your parents to feel like we trust her. She has

813
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: a track record of doing things that are smart, mature

814
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: adult like.

815
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was trusted.

816
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I was given a lot of privileges

817
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: growing up because I.

818
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: Was a rule follower. I mean I just I just

819
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: was a clean kid and I knew.

820
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: It's funny, I think my parents knew when I came

821
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: to this city and had this apartment with like I

822
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything.

823
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: Wild like I was. I was just a very cautious.

824
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: Were you focused? Would you describe yourself as focused?

825
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: Incredibly focused, incredibly calculated? Might not be the right word.

826
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: But I just everything that I did was like intentional

827
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: and cautious. I think I'm like I was like more

828
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: scared of like like I would have never been caught

829
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: being somewhere sketchy too late. You didn't have to worry

830
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: about me with that because I was like just very

831
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: aware of my surroundings, very cautious about everything.

832
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: How did you get here? Did you drive your own

833
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: car out here?

834
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

835
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: My mom and I drove my Chevy Silverado from Colorado

836
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: and we we stopped in Arkansas all the time. You know,

837
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: growing up we might have talked about this, But.

838
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Mike, tell me again, I remember reading you, So I

839
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: don't know who are you.

840
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: My extended family is all in feate Wille.

841
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: I remember that.

842
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: So my brother went to school there, and but we,

843
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, growing up, we would stop at my aunt

844
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: Joyce's farm. We would drive back and forth and stop

845
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: there along the way.

846
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: So how long did she stay here before she left you?

847
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: Your mom?

848
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

849
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: I think maybe a few weeks.

850
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: She was she was.

851
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Nannying for actually, one of the women I was working

852
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: with adopted late in life, and she was nanny helping

853
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: out with somebody's newborn.

854
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: So she was.

855
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: She stayed to make sure that I was okay.

856
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: They ever come back now?

857
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

858
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: Now they have a grand Oh yeah, granddaughter.

859
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, once a monthly.

860
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: Are they still near four Collins or in the area? Yeah, yep.

861
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: And so is my brother. So he went to he

862
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: went to school in Fayetteville and then moved back home.

863
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: And they play music, your mom or dad.

864
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: No, nobody, nobody else is musical. They all love music.

865
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: They're not musical.

866
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Wonder what made you or what created that desire to

867
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: go even deeper, because it wasn't like you were watching

868
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: your dad play a guitar in the living room, but

869
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: for some reason you wanted to learn more about these

870
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: artists or learn more about Wonder where that desire came from.

871
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: I wonder that sometimes too, I think. I mean I

872
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: always I was sitting down at.

873
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: The piano when I was four years old, trying to

874
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: prop the music sheet up and figure out. And my

875
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: grandma always played piano, and so there was kind of

876
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: this desire early on to learn, and my parents put

877
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: me in lessons. When everybody does piano lessons when they're little,

878
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the thing to do.

879
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: I did them when I was like thirty, I hired

880
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: a teacher to come to my house.

881
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: I love that.

882
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's when I did them. But I was

883
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: also writing comedy music and not really knowing how to

884
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: do the music part, because I'd write jokes and try

885
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: to put them too songs. And I was like, any

886
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: learn I play pianos.

887
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: It's kind of foundational.

888
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: I feel like piano is I did it all wrong.

889
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I hear you to me, it wasn't. And

890
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: I struggled and I can do some chords and I

891
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: learned how to read music a little bit, but I'm

892
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: not even a good guitar player. Like I can play

893
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: like nine chords and figure out the others, but piano

894
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: was tough. I think if I would have learned it

895
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: at first, I think that would have been a good foundation.

896
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: But I know nothing about music.

897
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: It's actually it's interesting.

898
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: I feel like when people are trying to learn guitar

899
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: without knowing anything about piano, I'm kind of impressed because

900
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: I feel.

901
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: Like, without knowing anything about.

902
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: Chord structure or different notes in a chord or anything like,

903
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it would make guitar harder.

904
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 2: So but you're assuming that's what and how they're learning,

905
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 2: because I know nothing about that now. I know nothing.

906
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: And again, I was also on American I donot for

907
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: four years, getting paid a healthy wage to tell people

908
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: what to sing, how to sing it, what songs they

909
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: should avoid, what keys they should sing it like. And

910
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't know any of that, right, So I don't

911
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know. But what I did is

912
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: I bought a poster at Walmart that told me or

913
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: to put my fingers.

914
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: Love it.

915
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: That's I love it. And that's all I know now

916
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: is Okay, you want to see you on a g

917
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: you want a f I just don't to put my fingers.

918
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: You just know that, but I can't. I don't know

919
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: a scale. I don't know anything.

920
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: See, I will admit that I have.

921
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I've lost a lot of that knowledge along the way,

922
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: because you do you realize, okay, for what we're doing,

923
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: you only need so much, So it's kind of like

924
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: selective memory. I do feel like I've forgotten a lot

925
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: of the.

926
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: Things that I should know.

927
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: I definitely am not classically trained or anything, but it

928
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: was helpful.

929
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: For me to have some of that bassis.

930
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: By the time I went to figure out the guitar,

931
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: I think I was pretty like I was a quick study.

932
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Do you ever write on piano now?

933
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 5: No?

934
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Could you play now if there was one in front

935
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: of you.

936
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: I have one in front of me a lot because

937
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: my daughter is she loves my keyboard. She's so interested

938
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: and I'm terrible now, so I need to get it.

939
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I know how to read music.

940
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I just need to get It's a skill. It's like

941
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: muscle memory. You gotta keep. So some of it kind of.

942
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: Comes back when I sit down, but it's bad. I

943
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta refresh.

944
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: Are you getting to play much like with people watching.

945
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: Doing you know, if we're talking about piano or just

946
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: in general anything, Yes, I will say, I mean getting

947
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: ready for baby number two. That's slowed down a little bit.

948
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: But you've been you've been doing some some shows.

949
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's always been a lot of like writers

950
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: rounds and different things around here. For me, anything that

951
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: I feel like, I I love an intimate setting. Maybe

952
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: it's just that my voice really like lends itself to that.

953
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: But I would agree you have a very precious voice.

954
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, And I think you're right some voices are

955
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: better for different places. I also think that you could

956
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: play anywhere. But I do understand the preciousness of your

957
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: voice and how you might think it's better and intimate setting.

958
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't think you're I don't think you're right on

959
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: that where it's just better in an intimate setting. But

960
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I think you have a very precious voice, but you

961
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: also speak with that same voice. Really Yeah, Oh don't

962
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: you agree?

963
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: Mic?

964
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, A little baby like a little baby bird, very jollyful.

965
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I could break its neck with a

966
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: single term I could say.

967
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: So.

968
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

969
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: The cool thing about Nashville is, yeah, there's always somewhere

970
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: to play. Do you ever play a song that you

971
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: just wrote and I don't know gauge?

972
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love listening room for that. I feel like

973
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: you can really get a I mean most rooms in Nashville.

974
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you can get a pretty good sense

975
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: when you play something new. But I felt I felt

976
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: that way with Diamond and a Baby that's on the

977
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: on the EP.

978
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: I just knew that one.

979
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: It's partly because it's fun and up tempo and there's

980
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: clapping and people love it, but I just that was

981
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: one that when I started playing it in front of anyone,

982
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is this is gonna be good.

983
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Are you an organized person now?

984
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

985
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Do you keep a calendar?

986
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

987
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: Like what is your in your phone? You have a

988
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: calendar of like stuff? What do you put in your rights?

989
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

990
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: Okay, like mine everything is like colored right, like I

991
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: have like five This is how do you organize yours?

992
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I'm not as organized as.

993
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: I am, Hyer, don't compare, Like, don't compare yourself to me,

994
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: because I am. It's like one of the things that

995
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: I'm prideful of. But it's again, it's a survival thing. Yeah,

996
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: I need everything mapped out exactly, which is great right now.

997
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: It depends who you're talking to. Yes, I can be

998
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: a little rigid.

999
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 4: I actually have been wanting to lately get a written place.

1000
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: Do you know it's all cute for a minute. It's

1001
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: like going to get a butter churner. It's like it

1002
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: was fun for a picture, but god, dang, four time

1003
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: you want to turn a butter it sucks.

1004
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: Okay, you're about to save me money because.

1005
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: I was a butter turner. Don't get that. I mean,

1006
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: you can get one, but it's annoying. What are you

1007
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: trying to prove? You carrying around paper? And also if

1008
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 2: it gets wet, it sucks. You gotta have a pin.

1009
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: It's like do a japin got to borrow a pin.

1010
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Now you got COVID because the pin had COVID on it.

1011
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: You don't need that. You can't put in your pocket.

1012
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: Just do it on your phone.

1013
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 4: Okay, it's the writer in me. I want to see it.

1014
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: It is romantic to write. Yes, yeah, I bet you have.

1015
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: I want to romanticize my schedule.

1016
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: Okay, pull up your phone, every phone with you? No,

1017
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't do you even have you use the phone?

1018
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: She's like, I do not. I want to romanticize.

1019
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 4: I'm off the grid.

1020
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: No, I mail all my correspondents.

1021
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: I very much so have my phone. You're making me

1022
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: nervous with what.

1023
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be nothing is? Is this a little test?

1024
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: Okay?

1025
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: What do you have?

1026
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: What's today? Second? What do you do? What do you

1027
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: have for today?

1028
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: You?

1029
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay? Like it? What about tomorrow?

1030
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: A doctor's appointment?

1031
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: What about?

1032
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Let me just move on here? The twenty fifth? Do

1033
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: you have anything October twenty five?

1034
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh, my daughter's birthday is the twenty seventh, But I

1035
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: have nothing that Friday.

1036
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's cool because what I would like to

1037
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: invite you to do at some friends. You're gonna make

1038
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: your Ofrey debut?

1039
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: No, are you serious? Are you kidding me?

1040
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. What so, if your calendar is free,

1041
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: how would you like to.

1042
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you have got to be joking.

1043
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm not joking.

1044
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: What is that happening right now? Did you want to

1045
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 4: know about this?

1046
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: You haven't answered the questions?

1047
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I will be there. Oh my gosh, I

1048
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: thought you were just did you just make this up?

1049
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: Just like, what do you mean?

1050
00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: No?

1051
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 4: This they note about this?

1052
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that would be funny. No, I didn't make

1053
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: it up that the texting had nothing to do with this.

1054
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1055
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: But the Oprey would like to invite you to come

1056
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: out and make your Oprey debut on October twenty fifth.

1057
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I cannot believe this.

1058
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel?

1059
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: It's just the most surreal this.

1060
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: I think this is the most surreal moment of my

1061
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: ten years. I've just I've dreamt about that for so

1062
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: long and you and you watch your heroes do that's

1063
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: just the one thing that is like you've made it

1064
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: when you do that.

1065
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: I can't believe they're going to let me do that.

1066
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: They're not letting you do anything. They think you have

1067
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: earned the ability to play that stage, so they're not

1068
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: letting you. There's no charity in volunteer, there's no make

1069
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: a wish. If so, i'd have gotten other a long

1070
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: time early. Wait let me play?

1071
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: Uh know.

1072
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: Then I think they have an appreciation for what you do,

1073
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: how you do it, what you've created, even with the

1074
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: new project.

1075
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

1076
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: And so the twenty fifth, Oh my gosh, I did

1077
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: set you up on the other dates, like I was like,

1078
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: what are you doing today? I was just kind of

1079
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: walking you to it. Yeah, that's exciting.

1080
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: Wow, Oh my gosh, thank you so much.

1081
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm not the opry, I just am the conduit to

1082
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: get it to you.

1083
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: You you just you were the deliverer of the best news.

1084
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: Do you tell your Malman thank you every day? Thank

1085
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: you so much, mister ups guy. You are the reason

1086
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: I got this good? Yeah.

1087
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: I do say Okay, I say thank you a lot.

1088
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 4: It's better. I've gotten better about apologizing a lot.

1089
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: I no longer say sorry too much, but I say

1090
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: thank you a lot.

1091
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: How did so already as maybe a crutch word? Where

1092
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: did that.

1093
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: I think so many girls have this as a crutch word,

1094
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: like we just somebody like hits us in the face

1095
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: with a door and we apologize for being in the way.

1096
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: It's just kind of this it's a culture it's a

1097
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: culture thing.

1098
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just kind of this knee jerk thing that

1099
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: we say all the time. And I think probably dating

1100
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Colby and being in that relationship was the first time

1101
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: that you know.

1102
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: He was like you, you do not need to be

1103
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: sorry all that.

1104
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: There's nothing like don't be sorry that you exist.

1105
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now I say thank you a lot, but

1106
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't say sorry.

1107
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: I think it's probably better. I think he's better than sorry. Yeah,

1108
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: unless you're saying for the same reason, that would just

1109
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: be weird you bump into somebody. Thank you. Now that's

1110
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: a little long.

1111
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: This is a perfect setting to be thankful for.

1112
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm saying it a lot here.

1113
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: But well, I'm excited for you. It is a really

1114
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: cool night that you deserve. Thank you, And it's going

1115
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: to be a little overwhelming in the greatest way.

1116
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: I I'm already nervous.

1117
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: Good.

1118
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't good.

1119
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: This is one of those things that and It's so

1120
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of you to say those things, because I I

1121
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: almost feel like imposter syndrome. I almost feel like, oh

1122
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, like they think that I'm deserving of playing

1123
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the opry.

1124
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: That feels insane to me.

1125
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: But they do think that. They do believe that. I

1126
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: also think that and believe that, But I had nothing

1127
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: to do with them thinking that, believing that. I did

1128
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: not make a single don't even think this is a

1129
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: me thing. I didn't make a single call to the

1130
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: opera to be like, please let my friend do well.

1131
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that because that's such an important thing

1132
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: that that call I would not make that.

1133
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: That's what's crazy to me, is this.

1134
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: It's this thing that's it's just so coveted and I

1135
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe nobody ever feels worthy when they get

1136
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: to do it for the first time, but I just, yeah,

1137
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like they're I'm skating by

1138
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: getting in there.

1139
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy, you'll always feel like that regardless of what happens,

1140
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 2: because I do. I have ten blankets of imposter syndrome

1141
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 2: on me at all times.

1142
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: It's interesting, like I wonder maybe that's a good thing

1143
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: in a.

1144
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: Way that you I think what's great about it is

1145
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: also what's unhealthy about it, and it's how you balance that,

1146
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: because what's great about it for me is I'm never satisfied,

1147
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: and I feel like if my momentum is gone, I'm done. Like,

1148
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 2: as soon as there's not momentum, I'm out. Why would

1149
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: anybody hire me for anything if there's not momentum behind

1150
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: me or a reason that they feel other than whatever talent,

1151
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: because I don't feel like I'm that talented. I feel

1152
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: like I'm only momentum based. So the great part is

1153
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: it keeps me motivated and I'm driven. But the bad

1154
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: part is it keeps me motivated and I'm driven at

1155
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: times when I'm probably shouldn't be, like an unhealthy.

1156
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Obsession, Like you don't you don't take the time to

1157
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: step away when you need to, like like a break of.

1158
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: Rest, never and I don't. It's got to the point

1159
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: where it's very unhealthy for I don't even sleep anymore,

1160
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: and not in the way of like, ah, I work

1161
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: all the time, like I stay. I never felt like

1162
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: and I still don't feel like I have anxiety and

1163
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: I have friends that have it. But now I've learned

1164
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: that I do have it. It's just whenever I lay

1165
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: down to go to sleep, as soon as I lay

1166
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: down on my heart and about nothing, about nothing, but

1167
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: about everything.

1168
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: It's because you're so You're so wired at all times.

1169
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: I'm so I have such imposter syndrome that I feel

1170
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: like if I'm not doing everything right, then nothing is

1171
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: going to be right. Everything's gonna be wrong. So it's

1172
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: my job. This is what I must tell myself in

1173
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: my un and subconscious. It's my job to make sure

1174
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: everything goes right Tomorrow. I get everywhere on time. It

1175
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: has to be at the highest level. I'd need to

1176
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: be prepared, I need. I'm not picking to do that.

1177
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm not slaying down, going Okay, well now it's time

1178
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: for me to think about all this stuff. Yeah, but again,

1179
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: I have massive amounts of imposter syndrome. But also what

1180
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: makes me really great also is what drives me crazy

1181
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: and makes me unhealthy. And I don't like that. But

1182
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: also I love it.

1183
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: I will say, I feel like that's something about you

1184
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: that's going.

1185
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: Well, think it's about me. I think I'm just relating

1186
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: to you. You're always gonna have it. Yeah, because you're

1187
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: a you're a creator, and you're putting pressure to create

1188
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: something that's not even it's not tangible.

1189
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1190
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: There's nothing that you're creating that I can reach out

1191
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: and touch or put in my pocket. And then you're

1192
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: you have to as an artist, base your success on

1193
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: somebody's feelings and if they like something or if it

1194
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: resonates with them. That's a weird world to live in.

1195
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: That's what we kind of what we were talking about

1196
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: with all those publishing meetings and record label meetings and all.

1197
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 4: These I've had. I've had multiple.

1198
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: Those calls.

1199
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 4: I call them close calls.

1200
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: It's like these almost deals that you think that deal

1201
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: or that person believing in you is gonna like make

1202
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: or break and it falls through. And then we're trained

1203
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: in this industry to be putting so much weight on

1204
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: what all these different people think of us, including going

1205
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: into I mean, you've got to feel that way being

1206
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: on TV, and I mean we're putting ourselves out there

1207
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: for all of these different people, especially in twenty twenty

1208
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: four with social media and everybody just ripping everybody else

1209
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: to shreds. It's like we're just opened up to waiting

1210
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: to hear what people think about us, and it's all

1211
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: subjective and all shouldn't be.

1212
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 4: It really shouldn't be. Hey, what do you think about me?

1213
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 4: It should be.

1214
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm really proud of this song that I created

1215
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: with special people and we felt something when we wrote it,

1216
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: and I want you to feel that way too, And

1217
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: that's what I try to focus on.

1218
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: But it's so hard to like get.

1219
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Out of the way of Oh my gosh, am I

1220
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna hit all the notes?

1221
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: And are people gonna you know.

1222
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: The video gonna get as many streams?

1223
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

1224
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: Is this song gonna flop?

1225
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

1226
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: After I've been so excited. I mean, all of that

1227
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: is just so constant that it's.

1228
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: A bizarre world. But it's also awesome, right, and the

1229
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: worst things about it also are the greatest, And it's

1230
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: trying to figure out to balance it. I don't have

1231
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: that figured out. I still I've figured out that I'll

1232
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: never figure it out, and there's a little bit of

1233
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: peace with that. Yeah, And that there is no fountain

1234
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: that I'm going to find. That gives me the ability

1235
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: to understand there is no fountain, and so I can

1236
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: accept that. And something you said earlier where you're like,

1237
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: you know, you wait for a bunch almost even go

1238
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: up one where I've had things that I've gotten that

1239
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: I were sure we're going to change my scope because

1240
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: I had a I mean, I just had an almost.

1241
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: In my life is a constant list of almost. Nobody

1242
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: knows the almost right, we don't those aren't public. Fox

1243
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: called me a couple of weeks ago about hosting a

1244
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: network game show and they were like, hey, you'd be

1245
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: perfect for this job. I didn't approach them. I didn't

1246
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: even know about the show and I was like, yeah,

1247
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: I tell me more about it. They're like it's da

1248
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: da da da, and I'm like cool. So I got

1249
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: on with the network heads and they were like we

1250
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: love you. You're the guy. Yeah, and I'm like cool.

1251
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: And then I got on with the heads of the

1252
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: product covering like man, we love you, you're the guy,

1253
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like cool, cool, cool. And I got a

1254
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: call from my agent like a day later and they were like, oh,

1255
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: they end up going with some other person, and I

1256
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: was like huh. And I get it. There's a lot

1257
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: of rejection in this business and I get it a lot,

1258
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: but I was thinking, man, this would be a good

1259
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: one to get, like this is the next thing. But

1260
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: then I have to remind myself that I've gotten those

1261
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: things that I thought we're gonna be the next things,

1262
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: and they weren't the next thing.

1263
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: That's what's interesting is that sometimes when you get that thing,

1264
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't even.

1265
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't lead to where you think it should lead

1266
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: you or Yeah, but there have been things where I

1267
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: thought they would lead to nothing or didn't have any

1268
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: pre There was not a single thought about what this

1269
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: could do. I was just doing it because either I

1270
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: love to do it or I was challenged by it,

1271
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: and it actually led to massive things. They're just is

1272
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: no that I just tried to not think I can

1273
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: understand it with more effort because I can't, and I

1274
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: need to balance that.

1275
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: It's it's like the working smarter, not harder for me.

1276
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: I just know I'm not going to figure it out,

1277
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: So why waste energy trying to figure it out? And

1278
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: now I still try to figure it out sometimes, Yeah,

1279
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: but why waste energy? If my whole key is like

1280
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: executing and doing things at a high level things I love,

1281
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: things that I've am challenged by. Why am I going

1282
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: to spend time trying to figure out something that I

1283
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: know I'm not going to figure out? So most of

1284
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: the time, I can talk myself out of wasting that energy.

1285
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm human, I can't always that's my and that's what

1286
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: you're saying. You're like, you know, there were so many almosts,

1287
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: but I don't think any of those would have led

1288
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: to whatever it is that you're wanting to be led to.

1289
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: M I love that.

1290
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: I agree, and you see that looking back in hindsight, Yeah.

1291
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: This happened to me a hundred times. Yeah, my almost

1292
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: or the ones I got, never led to what I

1293
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: really thought. It was always the things I didn't know,

1294
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: didn't expect that I was passionate about, either again because

1295
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: I love doing it or because I was challenged by it.

1296
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: I also think that's something important too that I've been

1297
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: learning to do lately, is just kind of redefining what

1298
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: success is because I think you and I are both.

1299
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: I have that personality of being driven to be successful,

1300
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: but especially after starting my family, it's been this this

1301
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: journey of going okay. So I thought that from the

1302
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: time I was fourteen fifteen, I thought that success was

1303
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: the publishing deal, the record deal, a certain trajectory on radio.

1304
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: Then you're successful. Then you hope to have X amount

1305
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: of hits there's just.

1306
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: A path, and because it's been other people's path, and

1307
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: then we're told that's the path, that's the path, that's

1308
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: the path.

1309
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: And that's what makes you feel fulfilled and feel successful.

1310
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: And it's interesting.

1311
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: I love this part of your story because it's like

1312
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: you didn't even know to put that as an end

1313
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: result for yourself, Like you had no idea.

1314
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: Had I tried, I don't think I would have got

1315
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: it because I would have tried it a different way exactly,

1316
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: and the way that I have, the way that I

1317
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: thought I should, would not have been the accurate way.

1318
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my point. I don't have a I

1319
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: don't know points, I don't know anything.

1320
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: No, but it's it's it's inspiring for me because there's

1321
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Speaker 1: so much right now that like you asked me, where

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01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm at as an artist or what I'm doing, And

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Speaker 1: it's funny because there's so much at the time right

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Speaker 1: now that I go day by day, week by week,

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Speaker 1: and I think I'm just I'm gonna write the best

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Speaker 1: I can write, I'm gonna sing the best I can sing,

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01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up the best that I can and

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Speaker 1: I don't even know this journey has been so long

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01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: for me, and it's changed so many times, and sometimes

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01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm like.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know where the end result is. I

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 4: just know that I I just know that I don't

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01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: want to compromise family to get it either. I mean,

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 4: that was a choice that I made, and you know, hey,

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let becoming a mom scare me out

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: of the other things that I want to do.

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Speaker 2: Did it scare you the first time with your daughter?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: Did you think it was like gonna have to be

1340
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: big back seat or over or I don't know, I

1341
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: don't know what your mine was.

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, my first daughter was a surprise.

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01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: She's the best surprise ever. But yeah, it was. It

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 4: was hard for me.

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01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Not because I didn't think I could do all of

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: the things I was doing. It was more about worrying

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: about the perception of people in the industry. And I

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: think that's getting better, but I feel like there there

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01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 1: was just kind of for a while.

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Speaker 4: They're just kind of an underlying.

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree stigma, And I.

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Speaker 1: Don't really nobody's ever specifically made me feel that way.

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: It's just I think and I've talked to a loother

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01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: a lot of other female artists who feel that way.

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: I haven't felt that way a little bit about getting married,

1356
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: which is so funny because.

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Speaker 2: You're in a boy band and you don't want the

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: people to think you have a girlfriend. Yeah, I like,

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean, but a little bit. I mean, that's it, right,

1360
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing it is.

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because it's like who, like, who

1362
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: are we supposed to look available for?

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 4: That's so weird, like, and.

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: It's funny that now like these songs about I mean

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: that year that I got pregnant for the first time

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Speaker 1: and was just kind of going through all of this.

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea talk about not knowing where the

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01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: end result is gonna be or what's gonna I mean,

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: that was just it was the best time of my

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: life and I just thought, I am not gonna let

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: a concern about opinions or whatever in this industry like

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: ruin this joy for me. So I just had a

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01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: blast and we wrote this song called right on Time.

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: I wrote that with Scott Stepakov as well, and it

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: changed everything for me because the way that people connected

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: to that song that I wrote about meeting my husband

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: and meeting my daughter at the right time and her

1378
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: coming into this world at the perfect Like people just

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: resonated so much with that, and I realized, oh, I

1380
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't have to be the boy band person

1381
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: who doesn't share real life. I can I can actually

1382
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: relate more to my audience being myself.

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01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 4: Like that's what's so great about this is like.

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 5: Most of the girls in my age group, in my

1385
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 5: like we are, we're dating, we're getting married, we're trying

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: to have babies, we're struggling to get a toddler down

1387
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 5: to bed at night, and we're stressed out, and.

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: We're trying to work and clean dishes and do all

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01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, why can't we just talk about that

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01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: in a song because I.

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: I miss hearing that like I grew.

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these songs that made me fall

1394
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: in love with country music was you know, Trisha Yearwood

1395
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: and Martina Bride, and I just think we were like

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: celebrating all of these things that womanhood is. And I

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: just realized I don't have to hide all of those things.

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: So it's just gotten.

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: Better and better with you know, And now I'm in

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Speaker 1: another season of I don't know. I don't know how

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: to have two babies. I don't know how to juggle

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: it all.

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: But we don't have to. Yeah, you have a little time. Yeah,

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01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: I got some time operate to play first exactly, so

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: everybody out there. So here's the thing. The way we

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: started is the five song EP. But if she had

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01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: to pick one, she'd picked pretty Good Living because that's

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: the one I sent. But no, check out the way

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Speaker 2: we started and you can follow her at Sarah Beth

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: Tait t a I te will also put in the notes.

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Speaker 2: In October twenty fifth, you will be making your grand

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: ol Opry debut and it'd be awesome.

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Speaker 4: You gotta come.

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't know where I am, not even here. It's

1415
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: so stupid. I'm gone all the time.

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01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: Well, if you can come, you have to come.

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that is a fair I

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: think that's a fair ask. Yeah, I'm really proud of you. Continue,

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: that's all. Not continue doing it right or doing it wrong,

1420
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: or being a success or not. Just continue as long

1421
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: as you feel like you should go and and know

1422
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: that you're not the only one with imposter syndrome. Everybody

1423
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: has it. Everybody. It's if they admit it or not.

1424
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: And if they don't, they're a cycle killer. They're cycle Kill,

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: there's psychotic. I'm a big fan and I can just

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't get a text back yet to

1427
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: cause you're wondering. But between that and you know, I

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01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: programmed the women of iHeart Country and you have something new.

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: We put it on, like I just you're just the

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: country Top thirty. We put it on. So I'm a

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: fan of your art as well as of you as

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Speaker 2: a person, and I hope over the amount of times

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: we've known each other you can see that for what

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: it is, that it's true and it's not just me.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: Selnya belly Goods.

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for playing all the songs, and

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's just been a highlight of life for us.

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: Is like running out to our car in the driveway

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: to hear when the song comes on the baps.

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, we we like the Really, that's fair.

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: That's fair to me. It's not with you, it's not

1442
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: if it's when. I don't know when it's going to be,

1443
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen.

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 4: Thank you. I hope you're right.

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm right. But we'll see, we

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: will see. What do your friends call you?

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 4: SB?

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: Too many syllables for too s B. It's just it's

1449
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: too hard. I'm tired, s weird mixed together.

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 4: If you think that's long. A lot of people call me.

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: SBT mm hmm. All right, I'll just say, hey, you.

1452
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: Think think you think Sarabath is easier.

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: I think it's equal. I think it's equal. Sarahbeth s B.

1454
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: I think it's equal. So I don't know. Why do

1455
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: you want to call you?

1456
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: What drops a syllable?

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01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't s B, what s B? Sarah Beth,

1458
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: Sarah Beth. No, you're doing it too quick. I would

1459
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: say Sarah Beth. O. So to me, if you're going

1460
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: to have SB be short for Sarah Beeth, it should

1461
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: be shorter to say Sarah Beth s B.

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: You're just skipping a third silver.

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01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tate, Tate, all right, we're done. You guys follow

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: Sarah Beth Tate. Go watch Us the Opera October twenty fifth,

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01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: and check out the way we started. All right, go

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 2: to see Sarah Beth Tate.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production