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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, February the fifteenth, and welcome into another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Draft Show. I'm David Hellman. Like the

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Speaker 1: big voice guy just said. I think he said all

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Speaker 1: y'all's names too. I don't know why I do this

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Speaker 1: every week. I'm with Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: You get the drill by now, guys, how are we

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Speaker 1: doing excellent talking about the draft? How can you not

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Speaker 1: be any better? I'm exactly. Super Bowls over just welcomed everybody.

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Speaker 1: Now that has to start to catch up. Yeah everybody Now,

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Speaker 1: now everybody else has to hop on. Like now you

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Speaker 1: don't hear you go if you're not a draft Nick skymore?

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Speaker 1: All right? Can you not more? Guy? Can you not

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Speaker 1: give away? Future segments from a start with that. Let

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Speaker 1: him let wide receiver Skymore. I asked Jeff who he

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Speaker 1: who was the last guy he watched last week? And

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Speaker 1: he got pissed at me. But now he comes in

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Speaker 1: here just dying to talk about sky More. Skymore, So

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Speaker 1: let's go. Come on. Oh, he's a Western Michigan wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's five ten, one hundred ninety five and he's Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: So um, just pick him. Yeah, second round done. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put him in every mock draft. Cooper Cup is

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Speaker 1: up yesterday. I mean a bigger player, play style. Sorry, Skymore,

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan wide receiver. Just put him on your radar.

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Speaker 1: If you're out there and you love the draft and

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Speaker 1: you haven't watched him, watch him. He's to me, the

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Speaker 1: safest it's weird to say about a Western Michigan wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's the safest receiver I've watched this year. At worst,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a good slot starter as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, well, you know, Corey Davis

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Speaker 1: you know he hasn't had him. He's all right, isn't

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Speaker 1: that right? And then a bad career. Maybe. Did I

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Speaker 1: hear him say he was talking about wide receiver one

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Speaker 1: he did, Yeah, he said he didn't have the nuts

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Speaker 1: to put him there, sky Moore, Yeah, well, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he could thrive on the out out here. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I just want to use him as Cooper Cup. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I keep saying Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, first round,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup in a first round pick, Yes, of course,

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Speaker 1: if you could red that draft, he absolutely would be.

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Speaker 1: And so like, I don't know how this guy's gonna test.

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Speaker 1: I know he's five nine five um, And when I

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Speaker 1: watch him play, it's just it's the movement patterns. Everything

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Speaker 1: looks like Cooper Cup. Looks like there's other guys in

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Speaker 1: the league that when they're runner are out like can

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Speaker 1: chop their feet and explode faster. But Cooper Cup like

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Speaker 1: does this thing where everything is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: and then after the catch he's hell on wheels. For

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Speaker 1: the same reason, Skymore at Western Michigan plays does he

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Speaker 1: just play inside? No, no, no excuse, me. He plays

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Speaker 1: shred Pitt and Michigan. There you go, you first team

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Speaker 1: All MAC. He's only a sophomore too, which is kind

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Speaker 1: it's all gonna fall along the same vein. But it's

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Speaker 1: like he's unstoppable off the line of scrimmage. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: He gets open off the line, and he gets open

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I remember that, so I'm on board

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Speaker 1: I just watched the tape, brother, Okay, Brian's just salty

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Speaker 1: he's from Western Michigan. Okay, this is a good segue.

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Speaker 1: so this is gonna be counterintuitive, but yes, we we're

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Speaker 1: fifty six, and I just want to pick y'all's brains.

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Speaker 1: I think every year at this time, you're always trying

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Speaker 1: Bowl teams, right, And I'm just curious what you think

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Speaker 1: for the last few years. Austin Corbett, failed second round

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Speaker 1: He started two years for them, Sony Michelle, they're leading

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Speaker 1: they're dropped open pick by Jakois guitar away from losing that.

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Speaker 1: And so winning the Super Bowl is very very hard,

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Speaker 1: and so whoever does it immediately saying I need to

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Speaker 1: be like them is probably a bad idea because guess what,

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Speaker 1: they ain't going back. I completely. Yeah, But is it

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Speaker 1: better than you just to give your odds neither one

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Speaker 1: of those teams is in the super Bowl next year?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean would you take that chance though,

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Speaker 1: if you knew it could get you a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: if as opposed to what you're doing right now for

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Speaker 1: the last twenty six years. But that's the problem. See that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem I have. Then if you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of Kwaski catches the ball? Sure didn't. Sure, But then again,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at twenty six years of here of not

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Speaker 1: having even even a chance at it. I mean you

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Speaker 1: look at you know, the way that you've done things,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, through the twenty six years, I was

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Speaker 1: part of the some of the bad crap that was

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Speaker 1: going on here, you know. But to me, I think

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Speaker 1: that you sit there and if you expect the same things,

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Speaker 1: then you get what you get. And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: and if the building a team is great and everybody

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Speaker 1: can say, oh, this is a really talented roster, and

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Speaker 1: then you sit home every year when it comes Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl time, and what good is that? And I think

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Speaker 1: that's why a lot of Cowboy fans are probably frustrated

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Speaker 1: because it feels like You're the one team who has

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Speaker 1: never been able to go on the run. And there

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Speaker 1: is no identifying reason of why Romo had two teams

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Speaker 1: that were probably good enough to go to the Supero.

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Speaker 1: They were absolutely Dax had probably two teams that were

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Speaker 1: good enough to go to the Super Bowl. And yet

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Speaker 1: everybody else who gives themselves that many chances in the

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Speaker 1: postseason finds a way to advance more than the Cowboys had.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's my overall point. You're absolutely right. I

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Speaker 1: remember the whole league chased Seattle's model for like five years,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, it turns out it's really

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Speaker 1: hard to draft three Hall of Fame defenders and a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's good enough to start at the same two

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Speaker 1: of them on day three at right, So I get

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Speaker 1: that button. We're not just talking about the Rams winning

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Speaker 1: this Super Bowl. They've been a mainstay in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: for five years at this point, given to two super

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Speaker 1: Bowls in the last five years. Sean McVeigh helps them too.

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Speaker 1: I just think that that I think is true, and

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a Cowboys thing. That's a trend that

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch, is I just I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we're going to see a change in the way

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Speaker 1: teams cling to these draft picks that they can't be touched,

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Speaker 1: because that was the attitude for so long. Again, I

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Speaker 1: always gave up a one one time they needed a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well he gave it. Next he gave up

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Speaker 1: two ones for Joey Galloway. He gave up a one

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Speaker 1: and a three and a five for Roy Williams. Are

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Speaker 1: these are lifetime ago moves. But this iteration, but he

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Speaker 1: is the general manager. It shows a point. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: general manager has done this before it goes on there.

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Speaker 1: I do think the general manager is desperate. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's people around him that are desperate enough. That's

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Speaker 1: my problem. That is my problem. I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: do a lot of the things people are yelling at

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Speaker 1: them to do, and they don't realize it. Where it's

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Speaker 1: like because I hear a lot of people like, go

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Speaker 1: all in, move all the money back, keep everybody, do that,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, well, they're here because they actually already do.

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Speaker 1: Every highly paid player on this team that's not Dak

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Speaker 1: is on the cap this year for significantly more than

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Speaker 1: they get would your year. They've already done it. Would

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Speaker 1: you say, would you say, then they've misevaluated their team

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Speaker 1: of who to pay and has some of the and yes,

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Speaker 1: some of the contract extensions been because of they're not

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Speaker 1: moving quick enough. Yeah, some of the problems. I would

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Speaker 1: go after this front office and say, for a team

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Speaker 1: that talks about wanting to win deals, yeah, you get

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Speaker 1: destroyed in every negotiation. Tank destroyed you, Zeke destroyed you,

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Speaker 1: Dak destroyed you. For a team because they want it

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Speaker 1: to be their deal, and then they wait until it's

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Speaker 1: too late to get their deal, and it's like crap,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. Going back, going back to the line

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Speaker 1: about being a baseball team, I'm not sure they're ruthless

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Speaker 1: enough when it comes to just bottom line, like getting

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Speaker 1: rid of a guy a year too soon instead of

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Speaker 1: too late, not caving on negotiations, that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. Anyway. So now that

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Speaker 1: we've gotten all that frustration out from the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: gonna jump right into it guys, because we we we

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Speaker 1: Actually this question is from Jeff. That's perfect, and it's

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver question. I did not ask a question.

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Speaker 1: This will work in a crazy Seedee Lamb esque scenario

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Speaker 1: where Garrett Wilson and Treylon Burke's are both available to you.

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Speaker 1: Who do you prefer Garrett Wilson? Yeah, Wilson? Um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: y'all all agree that the best in the class. He's

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Speaker 1: my only He's my only first round wide receiver. And

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Speaker 1: by first round I mean the rest of them. I

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Speaker 1: gave the cheater grade two. I like to cheat like

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Speaker 1: a late like a late first yeah, game a one two,

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Speaker 1: which is just my way of delineating when I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at my own board. However you want you learn that

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Speaker 1: from Dane. It's how I draw a line of this group.

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Speaker 1: I would pick first, and then let's go down to

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Speaker 1: this group us. Your sky guy. Is he the top

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Speaker 1: of the right, below the one Wilson. Garrett Wilson is

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Speaker 1: number one to the house today, Trailing Burks is number two.

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Speaker 1: Now disclaimer, I still have not seen Drake London London Nutacks.

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Speaker 1: I still haven't say okay, I still haven't seen Drake London,

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Speaker 1: but Garrett Wilson is my first one, then Trail and

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Speaker 1: Burks at Arkansas, then Jamison Williams, then Skymore. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: my top four wide receivers. Wilson separates and separation is

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Speaker 1: King Burks is going to be hellified ball in the air,

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Speaker 1: screen game. You could gadget him. He'll be really, really good.

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Speaker 1: But Garrett Wilson I love. And the one thing about

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Speaker 1: Wilson you were talking earlier about Cooper Cup and that

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Speaker 1: first step like trying to have that first defender take

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Speaker 1: him down. It's not happening against Garrett Wilson. I think

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Speaker 1: he's shifty enough to get around defenders. He's he's going

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Speaker 1: to be good at all three levels. He's that deep

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Speaker 1: threat ability. He still has a chance to catch in

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Speaker 1: traffic because he is a decent size. I mean six

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Speaker 1: like him over Burks because I think he can do more.

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Speaker 1: I think you can use him in a number of

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Speaker 1: different works. Comes with more Risks, I agree wis a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of He's gone a flat routes and screen

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Speaker 1: game and he's got a really bad quarterback and he

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Speaker 1: makes catches, so that should presses men a bad quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Bat Lsu Drake London at US he watching him yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy can catch in traffic, he can

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Speaker 1: catch downfield. He has a bit of separation at the

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Speaker 1: top of his routes, but not as much as you

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Speaker 1: would really want because he's so big. He's just a

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Speaker 1: big bodied receiver, great on the outside. He can be used.

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams M Yeah, I call I called him. I

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Speaker 1: called him Adam Feeling. Who's hoo? I called him. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was I thought he was a bigger Adam. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I said. Yeah, I'm gonna ask Brian this

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Speaker 1: If either of you all have watched him, feel free

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Speaker 1: to chime in. GC wants to know about Andrew Booth,

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Speaker 1: the Clemson cornerback. Yeah, I think there's a What's interesting

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Speaker 1: is about him with Booth is they don't throw the

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Speaker 1: him play, you really have to struggle to find them

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Speaker 1: like trying to attack him, because he's got all the

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Speaker 1: skills that you want. The coaches usually usually use him

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Speaker 1: on the outside in man coverage. But you know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's where I kind of feel like that he could

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Speaker 1: be his best With Clemson. You do see a little

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Speaker 1: bit of zone with him, but he just doesn't get

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Speaker 1: was able to rally and get there and make the play.

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Speaker 1: I saw a guy that you know, has all the

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Speaker 1: things you want, but I think he is a fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty tackler at best. I really really do. I've seen

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Speaker 1: burst and he does make some plays when he gets

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. If you're open to the Cowboys picking a

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Speaker 1: he goes. I think he's a guy that gets picked him.

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Speaker 1: This is a name. I don't think we've set his

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Speaker 1: name on this show now, and that feels like an

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Speaker 1: oversight at this point. I think he is a full

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Speaker 1: size corner that is very well rounded with one exception,

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Speaker 1: and Brian named it for you. He's an out of

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637
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Speaker 1: he'll throw his body at you, but he's not breaking down.

638
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: And he's not a good tackler. But man zone movement skills, catchpoint,

639
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Andrew Boots a player, he's good, so great and coverage

640
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: poor tackler. Where would that nick him for your grades? Like,

641
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: where would that set him? And I think I think

642
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I think the I think the movement skills

643
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and the ability to play the ball. And again I

644
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: always evaluate corners that could take routes inside because I

645
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: think that's the most difficult thing. This guy has no

646
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: problem doing that. I would like, I say, Jeff's right,

647
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: if you take him at twenty four. I don't think

648
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: that's a problem. The tackling is an issue, But then again,

649
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: there's people that will say his job is to cover,

650
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: not to tackle. Yeah, you do have to tackle, But

651
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, though, if I where I

652
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: put him is my thought was more about him at

653
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: the top of the second round than he was at first.

654
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: But then again, that's outside my range of the twenty

655
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: guys that I have first round grades on. So he's

656
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: in that in that mix of twenty two, twenty three,

657
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: twenty four area. For me, a lot of people have

658
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: him as like a top ten pitied. The skill, the skills,

659
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: the skills there. I mean, it's it's because he has

660
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: that blend. He has a blend of He's full sized,

661
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: he can play man or zone. Um. I won't say

662
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: he's not physical. He's a bad tackle. He's a bad tackler. Um.

663
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: And so when you're yeah, so if you're a guy

664
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: who's six foot two hundred and you're a blend of

665
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: all these things like Sauce, Gardner's a giant, super physical,

666
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: will blow up your screen game Like. He's not physical

667
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: like Sauce. Yeah, he's not as sticky as somebody like

668
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley or Trent McDuffie at Washington. He's just good. Yeah,

669
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: he's good at all of it. I'm glad you brought

670
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: up Stingley. I love this. I love the phrasing from

671
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Big squeak love the name too. He says he doesn't

672
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: just want to know about Derek Stingley. He says, help

673
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: me understand Stingley. And I think that's a good point

674
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: because most people agree he's like a top five talent

675
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: in this class. But then you hear a lot of

676
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: people complain about his recent tape about not having played

677
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a lot and maybe he could slide, And yeah, I

678
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: think it's a guy. It's worth trying to get a

679
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: handle on where you think he is in this class.

680
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: I have Gardner over him from Cincinnati. I think there's

681
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: some questions about his health when he plays. He tends

682
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: to play and then get hurt. I think that's a

683
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: concern right now. But when you watch him play, he

684
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: can cover from all levels. You put him up, you

685
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: put him back. You know, he can run with anybody.

686
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: The body, control the balance, he's you know, there's times

687
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: when you see him finish too. I mean you see

688
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: him like the ball will be there and he's able

689
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: to knock it down. He's in position. He'll even taunt.

690
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: I've said this before about this guy, like though some

691
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: of the will run routes on him and the ball

692
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: will be not going that guy's direction and he'll still

693
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: be in position broke down like, bro, you ain't getting

694
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm still here, you know. And it's almost

695
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: like he plays with that swagger about him. But the

696
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: athletic ability, the quickness, the burst, all that's there. I

697
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: would be concerned about his overall health as a player.

698
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: I think for Stingley, the reason that I would still

699
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: have him rated so high as potentially a top ten

700
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: to twelve pick is because on some levels, at corner

701
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: it's as simple as like that guy's gonna run somewhere

702
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: and you have to chase him. Can he get away

703
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: from you? And with Stingley, even as an eighteen year

704
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: old playing against twenty two year olds in the SEC,

705
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the answer was not even an inch. And so that

706
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: much ability, it goes high the ceiling. Absolutely, the ceiling

707
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: is dizzying. When he's not. He's not even twenty one yet,

708
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: and he's what He played a full season as a

709
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: true freshman, had both of his seasons cut short injury,

710
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: COVID stuff. The scheme didn't do him any favors in

711
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But when you talk like what he's been

712
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: able to do to this point in his career. If

713
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: he's healthy and locked in and committed. Yeah, it's crazy

714
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: how committed you think he really is. I trust that

715
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: he I trust that he will be in the pros.

716
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to blame guys in the COVID world,

717
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean Chason Parsons and or the free labor world

718
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: of college football. Fair once your stock is established, if

719
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: you decide Stingley wasn't a COVID opt out the way

720
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: that Chase and Parsons were. But if those guys can

721
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: opt out and come in and take over the league,

722
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: I completely trust that Derek Stingley can recommit himself. I

723
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: also I don't blame people for having questions about that though, Yeah,

724
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't blame people for well, when you look up

725
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: prototypical cornerback in the dictionary and Stingley could pop up

726
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: as the picture because he has that high ceiling, he

727
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: has that coverage ability, the rare athleticism, the prototypical build

728
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: for a corner. And then one thing that I think

729
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: is extremely rare of his tape is his ball skills.

730
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: The way he's able to catch it almost like a

731
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver, good punt returner. You could use them on

732
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: special teams. If you really wanted to the ceiling is

733
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: what you would draft him for at ten to twelve.

734
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: I know that's what Jeff said a little bit early

735
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: on ten to twelve. If that's where you wanted to

736
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: take him, you're putting him in the conversation of a

737
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: JC Horn and a Patrick's or Tan from last year.

738
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I would put him on the list with those two guys.

739
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Out of all three of them together, I'd put him

740
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: a solid third. But I don't have necessarily as many

741
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: doubts on the fact that he could come in and

742
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: play in NFL high caliber of football. It's just can

743
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: he do it consistently? That's my biggest pause. I think

744
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: the thing too about with with Stingley that you kind

745
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: of have to know about him is that to me? Well,

746
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: I was watching If you watch Pickens from George Joe Pickens, yeah,

747
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's a really good matchup.

748
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: Pickens did some good things against Stingley. A matter of fact,

749
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: Pickens did some things against him. The Auburn corner you

750
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: can create. Yeah, you kind of watch if you want

751
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: to go back and you could find those games, go

752
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: back and watch how Pickens played against those guys and

753
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: had success. So to me, I mean, I think I

754
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: agree with that what everybody's staying about Stingley again, let's

755
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: see how I think he'll be committed. I do worry

756
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: about his health. I just think there's sometimes he's one

757
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: of those guys that reminds me almost like a track

758
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: athlete did. He almost has to be perfect for him

759
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: to perform conditions and I mean conditions, body conditions almost

760
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: have to be perfect for him to perform. Amat says,

761
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: We've talked plenty about Nakobe Dean, but what about his

762
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: Georgia teammate, Channing ten Doll. Ten Doll, have you seen

763
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: ten Doll? You haven't watched him, I have. I have

764
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: only seen him getting ready for Bama and Georgia. I

765
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: kept writing down other Georgia linebacker names, and I was like,

766
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: he also can fly, yeah, and hit, and I wrote

767
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: that about like three different dudes. Jeff is absolutely right.

768
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Channing tend Yeah, he did, you did. You did a

769
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: great job. I said that in the second line. Best

770
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: trade is his ability to run. There's snaps where you

771
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: see him carrying receivers and maintains positions. He also does

772
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: a really good job when the ball goes wide and

773
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: he can run it down. He can cover a lot

774
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: of ground. Feel like he's a better player when it's

775
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: attacking things straight ahead. But I don't know if it's

776
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: his link or how the pads sit on his shoulders,

777
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: But not sure how well he can really turn. He

778
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: kicks a little tight to me and there, so there

779
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: might be a little stiffness into his game to that

780
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: point when it comes to really having to turn. But

781
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: everything downhill, he's a physical tackler, as all the Georgia

782
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: linebackers are. They come with a purpose, they wrap you up.

783
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: He's used as a blitzer, attacks hard, you know, but

784
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I think he needs to have a little bit better

785
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: plan when it comes to rush. And so I just

786
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: kind of like I like him in that mode. I'm

787
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: going to tell you exactly where I put him, but

788
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: Jeff's right about him on the running aspect of things.

789
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I put him in the third round on my board.

790
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of difficult because I've found notes I made

791
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: getting ready for the National title game. You will consistently

792
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: see Nakobe Dean, who's standing next to him, be gone

793
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: and going to make a play. Yeah, and Channing Tenda

794
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: hadn't figured out where he's gonna go yet. And part

795
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: of that is that Nikobe Dean is like a upercomputer.

796
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: And part of that you wonder is like, okay, our processors,

797
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: how are we processing here? But dude can fly and

798
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: dude can tackle. Yeah, you also got you also have

799
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: quay Walker and that makes as well. That's like another

800
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: you watched him yet, but everybody talks about him like

801
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Daniel Jermia I think has him the top fifty. You

802
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: can run and fly and hit. Okay, kind of like

803
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: those other Georgia linebacker, right, I can focus something in

804
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: cold I always focus. I can only and the scouts

805
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: here used to get on me about because they were like,

806
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: how do you not just watch four guys at once?

807
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can only watch the possible you watch

808
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: two because with the All twenty two you could watch

809
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: the wide view. If you're watching a car, Yeah, then

810
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: when they go to the inside, you could watch it.

811
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I've done that. I've been I've beene that with offensive

812
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: lineman before. If the guy's on the other side, I

813
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: kind of just take a peek at the corners doing something.

814
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I watch the corner and then I watched

815
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: the how like the tackles. I'll give him some love.

816
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Our guy, our guy, Drew Fabian its national stand here

817
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. He would come into. Oh he would

818
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: rail us. We don't we don't see him as off

819
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: and because of COVID, but he would come in and

820
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: just laugh at us watching like one guy at a time.

821
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: He's like, you, you're supposed to be able to do

822
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: six of these guys at once, So like, that's why

823
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: you get paid to do this, and I do it

824
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: for fun. Take your candy and go on, leave me alone. Yeah,

825
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that's why Brian kept the candy jar stocked. Paul wants

826
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: to know bigger need to upgrade. If you had your choice,

827
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: in a perfect world again, whatever storyline you want to imagine,

828
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: you have a chance to dramatically upgrade center or guard,

829
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: left guard, what would you rather? What would you rather?

830
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: I guess guard because it's empty. Yeah, I'd probably say

831
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: guard there too. Okay, even knowing center, I'm not dying

832
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: right now, just for the fun of it. You can

833
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: address that position later. Tackle. No, that's not the question. Tackle,

834
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm moving Collins to guard. Okay, you did say that,

835
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: and then maybe you could pick your center then if

836
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: you wanted to. If you're telling me that I'm going

837
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: to dramatically upgrade one and the other one in some way,

838
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: shape or form is going to be passable, give me

839
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: the center. I would rather have a great center than

840
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: one guard. We should feel good about the whole right

841
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: side of your offensive line at that point, I think

842
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: I think I agree, and it just goes. You used

843
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: to say it all the time when Frederick played here.

844
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Just the ability to cut a defense in half. That's

845
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: that's key. When the running the ball the way the

846
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: teams run the ball nowadays, you have to cut the

847
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: defense in half. If you told me I could have it,

848
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: If you told me I could have an all pro center,

849
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern would be fine with an all pro center

850
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: playing next to him, I think I said, fine, not great.

851
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: I will take Linda Baum. If you tell me that

852
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: Collins could play guard. Okay, And I like Linda Baum

853
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: a lot, I really really do. Yeah, I'll tell you this.

854
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: The thing that the question I have and I need this.

855
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I need to ask my gang of seven about this

856
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: is how you know he doesn't like him? No, no, no,

857
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: every time I like him. But let me tell you

858
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: let me ask him, we ask you guys, because yeah,

859
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, he's he's at Iowa, he's two ninety two,

860
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: big ten weight program. Is he gonna gain weight? I

861
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll be okay, yeah, if he's fall if

862
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: he's kicking ass against the Ohio States, Michigan's and Wisconsins

863
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: of the world. I mean, he's not the number one

864
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: prospect in the draft because he's not an inch or

865
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: two taller and ten Okay, why is there such a

866
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: disparity of where this guy could be picked? I think

867
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: there's two. I think there's questions because it's because you're

868
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: asking the right question, Well, is he gonna gain weight?

869
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: And a draft it's rare that a center goes before

870
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: the late teens, but he's so good that maybe he will.

871
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: And something that Creed Humphreys should have gone in the

872
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: first round, which the veriest. Absolutely. Now, some teams are

873
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: gonna look at that, at that same question you asked,

874
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a bigger factor to them than

875
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: other teams. Other teams are gonna look at and say,

876
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: you know what, even if he doesn't gain weight, Oh,

877
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: he's still a bad We're gonna we see Jeff's not

878
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: wrong about the player. We see the athletic ability, the

879
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: ability to tie people up that they'll they'll send you

880
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: the ad guys on Twitter this morning, send me the

881
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: video of him wrestling, you know, Tristan wors Now he

882
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: also people keep spreading that one around worst did beat

883
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: him two out of three times when they wrestled. Apparently,

884
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: yeahs is like the one of the best everybody whatever,

885
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, technically he did meet him, he

886
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: got to wrap his fine. I just want to know,

887
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: is this guy always going to be two ninety two?

888
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted. If he is, what does that

889
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: do to you? I don't know. Yeah, what if I say, yes, yes,

890
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: he's always gonna be two ninety two, then I know

891
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: what I know. Then I have to play in probably

892
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: a certain way. I know that I know that maybe

893
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: some of the scheme things that I might want to

894
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: do with him having to play against power players, that

895
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I might have to give him a little bit more

896
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: help than normal. That's all I'm saying. I just I

897
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: just have I just know if he's two ninety two,

898
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: forever you okay, at twenty four, who else is on

899
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: the board of course. See, now you give me a choice.

900
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman who are gone? Are Neil, Equano, Cross, Kenyan Green,

901
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: Green's gone, Zion Johnson's gone. I'm gonna take away a

902
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: good guard. Let me ask you this, Let me ask

903
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: you this, Let me ask you this. The list it is.

904
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I would tell you can have Zion Johnson if you would,

905
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: would you rather have I would take Lindabam over Johnson? Okay? Um,

906
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: would you take Linderbaum over Jermaine Johnson? Yes, Edge Rusher, Yes,

907
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh not Dean Dean, not Dean or Lloyd Dean. I

908
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: would where you draw the line, Dean and Lloyd. I

909
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: would draw the line. Okay, so you would take Dean

910
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: and Lloyd. But we're not gonna find twenty three guys.

911
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: You would take over him? No, I mean, but but

912
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I just I just have to know.

913
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: I just have to know. I have to be committed

914
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: to this player. Daxton Hill, Michigan Michigan Safety. I thought

915
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: Dallas would take Daxton Heill. I've said this before. No, no, no,

916
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought that Dallas when they thought Linderbaum would be gone. Okay,

917
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Jordan Davis yes, I would take

918
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: him over Jordan Dane. Yeah, for sure, any of the

919
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Uh, maybe not the Ohio State Wilson. No,

920
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: not Wilson or Williams. No, Okay, you're still good at

921
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: twenty four. Look, there's a lot of ways we can

922
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: be for no Lineman up in Texas. Like you got

923
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: water Burger, there's a barbecue restaurant on every corner. Just no,

924
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Just know this guy is probably going to be too

925
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: ninety two his whole career, and that's okay. And if

926
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: it's Travis Kelsey, or it's gonna be Jason Jason Kelsey.

927
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: If it's Jason Kelsey and that's the guy you get.

928
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: Hey by all means, I'm just I'm saying this are

929
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: the things you need to know. It's not like he

930
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: goes to school at Hobart and has a terrible weight program.

931
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: You know he's going he goes to a Big ten

932
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: school that has a really good weight program. Now their

933
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: strength coach a little crazy or questionable from back in

934
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: the day was but that's kind of what you're dealing with.

935
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Just know that you're gonna probably be your guy. Good

936
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,440
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937
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,239
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938
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: of you got a question. Nice nice name, by the way,

939
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,480
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment. Of the draft show.

975
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: I am Dave. Actually this isn't this is it's not

976
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: really a discussion, but somebody did ask about comp picks.

977
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are going to be in line

978
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: for one this year. At the end of the day,

979
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: Terrell Basham probably offsets at least one of the guys

980
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: you lost, and then Andy Dalton probably nets you like

981
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: a five if I had to guess. So just file

982
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: that away. I looked it up and I believe that

983
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: to be right. So researching somebody. Actually, I love that

984
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: somebody asked me about the comp pics they can expect

985
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: in twenty three, which I just I love. People are

986
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: always willing to just go down the road. H oh,

987
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm yeah, I'm comp pick. God, what do

988
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: we got? I'd be good, I'd have some good ones,

989
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: say you'd probably have like I would assume they'll get

990
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: three or four next year, depending on who I mean.

991
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz likely gets you one. Whichever receivers wind up

992
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: leaving probably get you one, and those are gonna be

993
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: high draft. John Williams might get you one. Connor Williams

994
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: could get you one. Connor Williams is going to get

995
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: some money like Goad, he'll get six seven million years,

996
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: maybe eight yeah, urse maybe yeah, jeron curse. So file

997
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: that away. But I think it's it's only going to

998
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: be one this year, would be my guest. Don't say

999
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: that we're not letting Randy go. But what I wanted

1000
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: to get into was a question, like I said, from David,

1001
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: and this is what we were going to talk about anyway.

1002
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: He wants to know what position of need for the

1003
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys looks to be the thinnest to you right now.

1004
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: And I just kind of want to have a conversation

1005
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: about how you feel about the strong points and weak

1006
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: points of this class from what you've seen so far,

1007
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: just from an outsider's perspective, I gotta be honest, I

1008
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: don't think that the draft is top heavy. Well, we've

1009
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: talked about that, but I don't have a position so

1010
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: far that I'm watching where I don't see options that

1011
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: can help you in the second, third round. Like I

1012
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: can find you tight ends, I like I can find

1013
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: your offensive lineman. I like wide receivers, I like edge guys,

1014
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: D tackles. I haven't seen enough linebackers. But it's you

1015
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: have WHYTT to first is a first round grade. Uh No,

1016
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I have no first round d tackles. Okay, So see

1017
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Though, I think got a bunch

1018
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: of twos to me. If you if you the thing,

1019
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: if you're really interested in a center, then you need

1020
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: to draft lend to bomb it at twenty four if

1021
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: you if you need a tight end, that's probably more

1022
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: probably a third round there, unless I don't think they

1023
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: would Widermeyer. I don't know from Texas A and M

1024
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: if he ends up in the first round, you know,

1025
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a first round tight end myself. You know,

1026
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: depending on what you want to do with Dalton Schultz,

1027
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: I think there's some I think there's some good ones though.

1028
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: I think odd And at Washington's good. Rucker at at

1029
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State, McBride at Colorado State, I think are all

1030
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: pretty good options there. Um, I'm kind of thinking about,

1031
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: like Jeff was talking about the defensive tackle stuff. I

1032
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's initially very good. I don't have a

1033
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: first round defensive tackle, but I would look at Wyatt,

1034
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I would look at uh mathis from from Oklahoma, Bama, Yeah,

1035
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: free Winfield, Yeah, Oklahoma. Uh. Logan Hall was a guy

1036
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: that was kind of interesting to me at Houston, but

1037
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: that was all kind of second round guys. You know,

1038
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: the safety thing stretches pretty good for you. I think

1039
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: the corner stretch is pretty good. You know, we'll see

1040
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: about the you know, unless you get one of these linebackers.

1041
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: I have Clark and Chris Harris as my two kind

1042
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: of second round inside linebacker guys. And we talked about

1043
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Tindale from Georgia, so I mean where they were there,

1044
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: where they need players. I don't think it's terribly bad

1045
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: other than the center if you had to get into

1046
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: the second or third round. What about edge rusher just

1047
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: because I mean it's it's deep. That thing's deep. Yeah,

1048
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: it's deep, but also kind of risky. Right, it's kind

1049
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: of how edge works, Like there's a lot of different

1050
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: guys every year. Thing, Right, You're not gonna feel great

1051
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: about a second round edge guy like, hey, he can

1052
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: go start today. I think that would. I think guys

1053
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: like my j Sanders from Cincinnati. He could be probably

1054
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth or maybe even longer than they

1055
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: maybe the six or seventh guy off the board from

1056
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: the edge spot, and he's probably gonna be like a

1057
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: late second, early third. He could come in and start

1058
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: for you right now. I agree for I completely believe

1059
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: in that. I think there are some edge rushers in

1060
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: this class that are going to come in and make

1061
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: immediate impacts. Maybe not twenty twenty five deep or anything outrageous,

1062
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: but I agree with Brian in that fact. I think

1063
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: this is a deep edge rusher class that you can

1064
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: get some guys not in the first round. We always

1065
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: like to think of that. We all kind of liked

1066
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: Ojilari and then he goes to the Giants, and you know,

1067
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: these guys go to that season, they have they have success.

1068
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's funny. You're like, oh,

1069
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: this guy's only two thirty eight or only's only two

1070
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty nine whatever, and you're like you kind of ding him,

1071
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: and then he get in the game and you're and

1072
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: then you're like, going, hot, jeez, I didn't see that

1073
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: guy the right way. I kind of feel like this

1074
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: is the same group. I think. You know, the South

1075
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: Carolina kid was at Agnar heading to U E n

1076
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: A g h R E Nagbaria Bari. Yeah, I don't

1077
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: man to me. I like watched him. He was at

1078
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: the senior bowled stuff like that. You watch his tape.

1079
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: He's got, you know, he's got some qualities to them

1080
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: that they're pretty good. Him Cam Thomas at San Diego State.

1081
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: Their tape, their tape is a lot better than probably

1082
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: what they performed at the Senior Bowl. I say, Ignagbari

1083
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: eat nag Bari, and then you've got like Arnold Ebba Kadi. Yeah,

1084
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious. And I know Fosky from Notre

1085
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: Dame's another one, Drake Jackson from sc SC. We probably

1086
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: talk too much about wide receivers sometimes, let's do it. Well,

1087
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: you just said earlier in the show that you'll need one.

1088
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: You well, but you only have one first round grade

1089
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: and that. Yeah, but I'm gonna have fifteen second round grades. Well,

1090
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: that's what I was That's what I was about to ask.

1091
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Is I mean, we've been on this run for the

1092
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: last few years where they're there's four or five six

1093
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: receivers going in the first round and there will be

1094
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I bet those guys are going to go

1095
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: first yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Twelve first round grade. Yeah,

1096
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of that's first round grade going

1097
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: on the first round. I forget, we've already talked about

1098
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: this being a class with fewer than normal first round grades.

1099
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: But even still, you're kind of painting a picture for

1100
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: me where starting at twenty and going to like sixty five,

1101
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: where we dance. That's where you're sweet spots. Oh, that's

1102
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: where we dance. That's where Sky Moore and George Pickens

1103
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: and Chris Lave and Johan Dotson and John Mechi and

1104
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert talking about Wandelle Robinson. Wandell Robinson's on the

1105
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: back end of that for me, but he's still there.

1106
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a fun gadget, little speed, quickness. Uh,

1107
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: this is a it's a fun watch. Alex Pierce from Cincinnati,

1108
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: have not yet need to watch him, need to to

1109
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: watch Alex and just let me let me find out.

1110
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson shifty and is bigger the tall he is,

1111
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: he's not. You can't try to watch he's not all right.

1112
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: He might be the social discussion. Wandale Robinson is skinny? No,

1113
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: you're he is. He is one eighty five. You're right.

1114
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the tight end class is deep at all.

1115
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty thin. Brian mentioned feels like the

1116
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: norm at this point to me, but that's a fair assess.

1117
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: But go ahead. But Brian said, four names, rutgerd Oughton, Widemeyer, McBride.

1118
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: Those are my top four tight ends, only four i've done.

1119
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: I'll throw Jake Ferguson in there as well. Likely after that.

1120
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I don't love his tape either,

1121
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: but I know that it's going to be a top twenty.

1122
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah he again, Daniel Jeremiah, I mean his top we

1123
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: all look at these guys. Jefford, but he was in

1124
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: this likely from where Coastal Carolina, and Jake Ferguson from

1125
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: where Wisconsin, Wisconsin. I always like to get the school, yes,

1126
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: for sure, But I think outside of those five six names,

1127
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't see anything happening until day three. That's that's

1128
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: late day three. That does feel normal right where it's

1129
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: like there's no first rounder, there's a second rounder. Two

1130
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: people will two four people will put people will put

1131
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Widemeyer from Texas A and M the first round at point,

1132
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: and I've got him at a second I'm well, I'm

1133
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: well aware how in love I was with Kyle Pitts.

1134
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: But unless it's that type of talent, I don't see

1135
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: the point to be honest with you like these, I mean,

1136
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, you hate tight ends. I hate overdrafting tight

1137
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: ends who don't know how to play the position in

1138
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: the NFL and are going to need like two years

1139
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: at minimum to get up to speed. DALTI me a freak,

1140
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: or give me a jobber. Dalton Schultz was like everybody's

1141
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: favorite roster casualty for two years and then he put

1142
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: it together, which is fine for a fourth Darwin's undrafted

1143
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: free age for a fourth, fifth, sixth round pick, that's great,

1144
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: But I ain't trying to get that from my second

1145
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: round pick, like I, uh no, thank you, sir, no,

1146
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: thank you. There are other positions of need that you

1147
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: need to address before you really look at the tight

1148
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: end room and say that is a premier player. How

1149
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: do you You mentioned d tackle Brian, Like, how do

1150
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: you feel is there a sweet spot there in terms

1151
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: of like I'm kind of looking at guys like with

1152
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: the Davis I think Davis. I mentioned matth I mentioned

1153
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: this because Wyatt the questions about we were on Jeff

1154
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: and Dane and I were on their day talking about

1155
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Lyle the Texas A and m kid. You know, where

1156
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: do you Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. I mean

1157
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: to me, I mentioned Logan Hall. There's probably in that

1158
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: second round there's going to be a run on some

1159
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: of these defensive tackles, you know, depending, I think there's

1160
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: I think there's actually you guys really got me. I

1161
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the Clemson tape, Jeff. I appreciate you

1162
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: sending that to me of Travis Jones DT four, but

1163
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like they're better threes than there

1164
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: are ones, if that makes sense. Jordan Well really well,

1165
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: like DeVante White at Georgia and to Marvin Leel, I

1166
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: think are nice threes. Perry On Winfrey with what he

1167
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: did at the Senior Boyhoma looks really good like Wyatt

1168
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: Hall and Winfrey. Okay, yeah, and I have Haul as

1169
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: an edge, but wherever you want to play him, Um like,

1170
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis is a good one. Travis Jones is a

1171
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: good one. I think Fedarian Matthis at Alabama's Yeah, I

1172
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: think matthis is going to surprise some folk. I think

1173
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance that maybe a D tackle goes

1174
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: before the Cowboys pick, and maybe not, and that maybe

1175
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: five go before you pick again. That's what I think

1176
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: could happen maybe more than that. How do you all

1177
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: feel about I'm interested cornerback. We've talked a little bit

1178
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: about it. It's I mean, there's always going to be

1179
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the draft because of the

1180
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: importance of the position, But how do you rate it

1181
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: later on? And then on top of that, how do

1182
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: you rate it for the Cowboys knowing that they just

1183
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: put two guys in the pipeline last spring? I would

1184
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on the guys with length

1185
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: and I mentioned I mentioned Emerson from Mississippi State, these

1186
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: long rangey kind of guy. Did you watch ENTI I'm

1187
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: laughing because I loved I always love the little corners,

1188
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: like two favorite corners in this class or Trent McDuffie

1189
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: at Washington YEA and Roger McCreary at Auburn. Yeah, not

1190
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: one and two in my rankings. One thing I know

1191
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: about it to watch the little guys. The Washington Huskies

1192
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: are going to put out some badass dbs that the

1193
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys don't want to look at. That's what it

1194
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: always seems like that. But man, I kind of like

1195
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: Trent mcduffee might be the best corner in this draft.

1196
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: I love Elam and mcduffy. Elam from Florida. Mcduffey, I mean, yeah,

1197
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon's teammate's pretty good too, pretty good. Yeah, pretty

1198
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: as good as me. But mcduffey just jumps off the

1199
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: screen because he has the movement skills, the five ten

1200
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 1: or five eleven guy where it's just like holy cow,

1201
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: his ability to change direction, stop at the top of routes.

1202
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: It's it's goofy. The Kendrick kid at Georgia. I don't

1203
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: know if you guys have seen him at all. Clemson receiver. Yeah,

1204
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: he's he's a good little player. And I'll tell you what.

1205
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: Another one that I was trying to kind of figure out.

1206
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: Take a peek at Marcus Jones from Houston. This kid's

1207
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: five eight, one eighty five basically, and he's one of

1208
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: the best returnment in the country five nine, excuse me,

1209
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: one eighty five. Was watching him cover somebody this morning

1210
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: when I was watching a receiver. Maybe it was Calvin

1211
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: Austin at Memphis. He might This kid might be one

1212
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: of the most dynamic players in the country when you

1213
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: look at his overall in the way he plays, how

1214
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: physical he is and stuff. Like I was wondering why

1215
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: one of the little quick and fast wide receivers I

1216
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: was watching get open, And I actually googled this morning,

1217
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: who's number eight at Houston. Yeah, that's Marcus Jones. He

1218
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: transfers from Troy to Houston. And I'll tell you what,

1219
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: even just Troy tape, I went and just say, I

1220
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: gotta look at this guy some more, big, I asked.

1221
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: I asked one of my gang of seven guys, and

1222
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, there's this five nine corner at Hughes

1223
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: and the immediately went's Marcus Jones. Marcus Jones, Marcus Jones.

1224
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity, can't take a peek.

1225
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know, but this guy, when you watch him,

1226
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: he won the SMU game this year, Like SMU kicked

1227
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: the ball to him and he brought it back with

1228
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: him on the kickoff return. He's one of the most

1229
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: punt kickoff return He could cover on the outside, he

1230
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: could cover in the slot. But he's five nine, and

1231
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't think these guys will look at him. But

1232
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just in the spirit of the draft show. And

1233
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: now let me give another guy to Kyler Gordon at

1234
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: a Washington you mentioned all those Washington corners. Very sneak.

1235
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: They have a very sneaky case for DBU. They don't

1236
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: get the love they've been on that one for sure. Taylor.

1237
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Look we're Martin Emerson. We're getting into the weeds here.

1238
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: We're a month and a half in. I'm loving it.

1239
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: This was fun, guys. I'll see you all Thursday for

1240
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: sounds good for Jeff, Brian Kyle. Check about YouTube page.

1241
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm Dave. Check out Jefs YouTube page. Wednesday, we have

1242
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: a show Dan, get that plug in, fellas, thanks for

1243
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: listening to the Draft show. We will catch all next time.

1244
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1245
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,880
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