1 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Hey, I do Part two. 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: It's your celebrity mentor Susan Noles and Batty Schwartz from 3 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: The Golden Bachelor in our podcast Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. 4 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: And we have a lot to cover in today's news. 5 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: We're talking divorce trends, splits in so much more in 6 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: chapter two. 7 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: You ready to get into this. 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: We got to get into it, and we have got 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: to start. Have you heard about this new trend with 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: divorce rings, how women are celebrating their breakups. I can't, Susan. 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: I mean they're having they're repurposing engagement rings, they're doing parties, tattoos, 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: wild home renovations like what just happened to simple divorce? 13 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. What do you think about it? 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: British Vogue is all about it. It's written up in there, 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: so it is a thing. 16 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we all know if Vogue says that it 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: must be true, right, So here's what I'm hearing about it. 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: They're putting it a ring on their fingers. 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's made of metal. 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes they're you know, repurposing their engagement ring. Remember they 21 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: talked about conscious uncoupling. 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: Yes, well now we're doing like conscious unhitching with jewelry. 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, you know what all celebrate 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: when we get married and we get a wedding ring, 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: And why be miserable at your divorce. Let's celebrate it 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: and put a sign on there that I'm divorced. Sometimes 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: I think they even tattoo. 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. I think a lot of women are. 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: You know, they're having parties, they're bringing their force attorneys state, 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: they all get together. I think it's a new way 31 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: of building community for the divorce women that are, frankly 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: a larger and larger part of our community. I don't know, 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that we'll talk about my ring in 34 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: a minute, but go ahead. 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: What were you gonna say? 36 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: The girl and gone girl? 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: That model Emily Radikalska. 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: She celebrated her divorce from Sebastian Bear macclair with not one, 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: but two rings that incorporated the diamonds from her engagement ring. 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: So this is like a new sport. 41 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, this is called new recycling. 42 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: Why sell a diamond ring for a quarter of its value? 43 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Why not just have a new ring made? 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: But I got to tell you so. 45 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: In Vogue they go on to talk about jewelers are 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: making these rings like it is a thing. Now bind 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: a ring, wearing it proudly, a lavish I don't know, 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: a divorce ring. 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: You wear it on the same finger, or I'd probably 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: wear it on my middle finger because i won't want 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: somebody else to think I'm not taking So. 52 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: It's a whole new thing for social media. Flash your ice, 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: your new ice on social media. But here's what I 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: want to know. If I'm gonna wear one, and I'm 56 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: surprised you wouldn't say this, do you know what finger 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: I'd wear it on? And I think a lot of 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: women are doing this the middle one because it can 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: it sends a message in so many ways. 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what I think about. 61 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Did you hear there's divorce cakes, divorce party games? 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: I mean, pin the tail on the X anyone? 63 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: I don't what do you think about it? Though? 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Like, I'm not sure? So you know I'm a widow 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: your divorce? What'd you do with your diamond ring? 66 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Actually my kids benefited from it because the Centerson, my 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: first son was getting engaged and he couldn't afford what 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: he wanted, so I gave him that My at first 69 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: my daughter had it, and then they that didn't work out, 70 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: and I had it set in a Christopher had it 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: set in a ring for Jessica, my daughter in law. 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 4: That's great. 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: Well how about you, Well, yours wasn't a Morris obviously 74 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: my husband died. 75 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: I it's funny. I wear my diamond ring on my 76 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: right hand. But you know what I've noticed and aren't 77 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: so smart they can't tell right now, They're like, oh, 78 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: she's married, So I've stopped wearing it. 79 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: If I go out, I just wear like nothing on. 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: A necklace or have a bracelet mate or something. 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: I don't know because I'm you know what I'm going 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: to do with that. I'm going to give it to 83 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: my granddaughter. 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see eventually. 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: But but wait, we're not just so. It's not just 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: rings that people are doing. They there's paintings, like doing 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: their own mural. Apparently Jessica Alba did one after filing 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: for divorce from her husband Cash Warren, Like, I want 89 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: to burn it. 90 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: That one broke my heart. I love them together. Nicole 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Kidman and Keith Urban. 92 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: And Jennifer Aniston Andreith Rereith's Witherspoon are said to be 93 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: throwing a big one for her after her split. 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 4: Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. 95 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: When the celebration's over, let's let's let's go here, Susan. 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 5: We got we got our divorce rings, we've got our tattoos, 97 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: We've had our parties, we've had a mural, We've got 98 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 5: a tattoo that some of them are doing that says 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: life is transformation is life? 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: Like? Okay, once we've done all this and. 101 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: You know we've we hate the man, We've made it 102 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: in all of our social media. 103 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 4: We're done. When do we come back around to? 104 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: And maybe not him, but you know, maybe I want 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: to get married again. I mean, if I were a guy, 106 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: I'd like, I'm not touch her with a ten foot fall. 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: She's gonna have me on a billboard somewhere. 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: And also, Kathy, this is saying that both parties wanted 109 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: the divorce to have a celebration like this. That means 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: both Sometimes that does happen and they they agree they're 111 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 2: not meant to be and they go their separate ways. 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: That I can understand. How like this well person sad 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: over it. 114 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't think husband and wives are having these party 115 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: divorcees are having this party together. I think Jennifer Aniston, 116 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: Nicole Kinman, these women are having these parties. 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: I do not think. 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: I do not think the X or Y chromosome, whichever 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: one men is. 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: That men are. I think they're X. They're not invited. 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying it's it's uh, it's a lot. 122 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it is a lot. 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: Didn't Rachel Zoe from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: just do this? 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was married over twenty years. You know what 126 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 4: it says to me? 127 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, it's like I'd rather I mean, this is a 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: big public statement about divorce. I hate you. I'm going 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: to have a party. I'm going to tack tooo how 130 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: much I hate you. Then I'm going to burn something 131 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: in effigy of you. 132 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't think of the focus like that. Like for me, 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: for instance, we're really good friends. We do things together 134 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: still with our grandkids. And also not everybody is the 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: I hate ours was more like we can't. 136 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are. 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: Also, with all due respect, you're not Nicole Kidman, You're 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: not Jefferson, You're not in you know, they have children, 139 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: they have I heard the funniest thing the other day 140 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: about Nicole Kidman's divorce from Keith Urban, Like, yeah, he's 141 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: you know, I let me just say publicly. 142 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: I don't think i'd want to do it. 143 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: I get it, they're public, but we got to move 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: on to the next one. 145 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Okay, else split you're ready? 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: Yep? 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: I o'cook and Amanda Bachelor announced their separation after four. 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: Years of marriage. We're going to go their separate ways. 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: They post it to their Instagram stories on Monday till nineteenth. 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: What they say, we have mutually and amicably decided to 151 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 2: part ways as a couple. We share this heavy heart 152 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: and kindly ask for your grace and support while we 153 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: focus on our personal growth and healing. And it feels 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: ironic for them to ask for privacy when their whole 155 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: marriage was public. 156 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but they say, they said, it feels ironic 157 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: to ask for privacy during this time, since we've always 158 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: tried to be open and honest about our relationship. But 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: your kindness and respect will go a long way as 160 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: we try to navigate our chapter. And the statement concluded 161 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: with him signing a man and Kyle. 162 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: He's forty three thirty four. They got engaged in and 163 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: tied the knot in twenty one. It was actually postponed 164 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: due to COVID and it. 165 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Was right here in Jersey, you know. 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: And throughout their relationship, which was documented on Summerhouse, pair 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: has been open about their struggles. In season three of 168 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: the Bravo series, which aired in March of twenty nineteen, 169 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: Cook confessed to cheating on her, claiming the blackout during 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: the guy's trip and woke up with a girl in 171 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: his bed, and recent rumors that they had split began 172 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: to squirrel when Bachelor claimed that Cook spent the night 173 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: at a fans apartment in the. 174 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,239 Speaker 1: Trailer for season ten of Summerhouse. 175 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, yeah, Kyle was sleeping some fans apartment. 176 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: It came home at like six thirty in the morning. 177 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: I mean seriously, so so Amanda. You know, she's told 178 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Clara Miller and Lindsey Hubbard there expressing their disapproval. That's 179 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: like saying the sun rises in the east. I mean, 180 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: but here's the thing. They're young. 181 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: Cook's forty three, she's thirty four. They're young. It's public. 182 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be public. 183 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: Well, their whole I mean else was public, so why 184 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: shouldn't that be public. 185 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's what humor's about, the masking now for privacy. 186 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: My advice to them do it nice and move on. 187 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: Thirty four years old, you got a whole life ahead 188 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: of you, right. 189 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: My advice is, get out of the limelight anyway you can. 190 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: Do not take out a billboard, do not burn an effigy, 191 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: do not. 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Is she going to get a divorce ring? 193 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: I would know she's going to join Jennifer Anson the 194 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: rest of the crew and have a big party. I 195 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: got to say, though, Susan, it's got to be difficult 196 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: for these Hollywood people to you know, do you want 197 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: it publicly known that your husband, a recent ex wakes 198 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: up with a van? I mean, really, do you want? 199 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: I don't want to know that? All right now we're 200 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: going to move on to p K. Kemsley. 201 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: He's made a bold statement on his life amid divorce. 202 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 5: Paul p K. 203 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: Kemsley is sharing a new look at his life today. 204 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Amid his divorce from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills 205 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: cast member Darree Kemsley. PK has been so incredibly busy 206 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: with his life and job as Boy Georgia's talent manager. 207 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: The UK native has taken to Instagram who hasn't over 208 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: the past few months, where he revealed several new looks 209 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: at his life, including that he has been gearing up 210 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: for boy George's US tour, which by the way, begins 211 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: in February, hanging out with some old friends called pairing 212 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: the two children that he shares with Deret and ringing 213 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: in the new with his dad, Kenny Counseley. But p 214 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 3: K is ready for a break from his busy lifestyle, 215 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: so the entrepreneur took to his Instagram story on January fifteenth, 216 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: where he posted a photo of himself sitting against a bar, 217 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: looking directly into the camera with his salt and pepper 218 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: colored hair into a neat cooff dear life, he says, 219 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 3: I've had enough of the bull blankety blank, he wrote 220 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: over the photo. 221 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: Can we take a break? Please? 222 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: Dreat and Pik are still married as their divorce has 223 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: not yet been finalized. The mom of two appeared on 224 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen on January fifteenth, 225 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: where she revealed to host Andy Cohen that things are 226 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: still rough between her and her strange husband. 227 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: You don't know how much I would love to be 228 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: sitting here. 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: You asking me that question and say, yeah, Sandy, things 230 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: are so much better. This is coming from to read. 231 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: But she admitted that was not the case. No, she added, 232 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: shaking her head from side to side. 233 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, Susan. 234 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: You got to respect her for not just going off. 235 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: You know, she's keeping it low key. She's not going 236 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: to announce it with Andy on TV. 237 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Like. You got to respect that. 238 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but here, I mean, listen, public divorce is public divorce. 239 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: But you know she's not being all that above board either. 240 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: I believe she's told him or called him an alcoholic, 241 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: which you know he may or may not be. Here's 242 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: the thing, when you're in the public eye, when you're 243 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: on a public. 244 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: Television show, meaning you know, Beverly. 245 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: Housewives, Housewife's Beverly Hills, if you're in the public eye, 246 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I think it's asking a lot to your 247 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: fans who have put you where you are to say, 248 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: you know what, leave us alone, don't make any comments. 249 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: We want our privacy. You can have it both ways, 250 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: That's what I think. 251 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 4: Well you think o him. 252 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: Look in the camera and say, dear life, I've had 253 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,119 Speaker 2: enough of this bullsh please, and she's just like no. 254 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: Well, and here's my thing. He might have had enough 255 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: of it. Does he want the paychecks to keep coming? 256 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm guessing that, Okay, the next one. I'm tortured by 257 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: the next one because I love this guy, Like I 258 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: envisioned myself meeting this guy in of Starbucks and he's 259 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: the Dermott mulrooney. You having him said to me, you 260 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: are the girl that I've wanted my whole life. 261 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: Dancing with him at the wedding like this is my man. 262 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: One of my favorite shows movies. 263 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: Right. 264 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: Dermott settles divorce from Prima outside of court. 265 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: You know he's sixty two for me. 266 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: His own lawyer filed a declaration for an uncontested dissolution 267 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: of the marriage on Friday, January sixteenth, According to documents 268 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: obtained by People, The filing reveals that the cup reached 269 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: a settlement through meditation. 270 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Outside of it's through mediation, mediation. I beg you for 271 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I thought they were meditating. 272 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: Well, he probably probably needs to. I'm saying, first of all, 273 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: after they meditated and mediated, good for them that they 274 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: got it done outside of court, right, Good for them. 275 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: But all I want to know is where is he now? 276 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: Stop? Stop? Wait? 277 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: He also is representing himself, and I know that it 278 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: addresses payment of attorney fees, spousal and child support, as 279 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: well as custody and visitation matters regarding their two daughters. Unbelievable, Like, 280 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of smart. Mabel Ray seventeen and 281 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Sally june Is fifteen. Once a judge signs off, the 282 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: divorce will be finalized. 283 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: Okay, but here's the thing, it doesn't happen very often. 284 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: He filed in June of twenty twenty five, so six 285 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: months ago, after fifteen years of marriage, citing what most 286 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: people do, irreconcilable differences and listing the data separation as 287 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: TBD to be determined. In the initial filing, he asked 288 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: that he and his soon to be ex wife split 289 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: attorney's fees and that they share joint physical and legal 290 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: custody of their minor children. Susan, you know, I have 291 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: not been divorced, but this is pretty standard. This is 292 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: pretty standard legal legally. You know we're gonna we're gonna 293 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: have joint custody. Blah blah blah. 294 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: Easy. 295 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: Nobody is asking for anything, not one is denying anything. 296 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: They're not arguing over the children or the money. 297 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Right, they use mediators not lawyers as they are friends. 298 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: I love this, Okay, is amicable. 299 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: Can I just say to you, you know how long 300 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: they're going to stay friends. They're going to stay friends 301 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: until one of them meets somebody else. 302 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: This, No, it does happen, Kathy, Well. 303 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: Listen, Can I just tell you when I meet him 304 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: at Starbucks in LA I don't care if he's got 305 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: twenty children, he is going to be mine. 306 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to say. 307 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: It was happier he got divorced, but this guy, ever 308 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: since my best friend's wedding, I was like, where is he? 309 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: Where is he? 310 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: And Lucky Julia Roberts that's million dollars smile. 311 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I got one of those too. He's not 312 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: gonna be able to resist me. 313 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: Melissa Gilbert cries court as her husband Timothy is released 314 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: from jail WAF facing child's sex abuse charge. 315 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So, after a two hour pre trial detention hearing 316 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: in New Mexico District Court on Tuesday, January twenty one, 317 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: a judge ruled at the sixty eight years old will 318 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: be released with conditions while he awaits trial as he 319 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: faces charges as child sex abius. All right, given the 320 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: lack and this is what the judge had, given the 321 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: lack of a pattern involving children in this case, I 322 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: think that can be remedied through different conditions of release. 323 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: He said this in part while delivering his decision, quote, 324 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't find that there's been sufficient presentation that this 325 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: defendant may commit new crimes in released pending trial. There's 326 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: no evidence of a pattern of criminal conduct. There are 327 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: no similar allegations involving children in his past. There is 328 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: no evidence of non compliance with prior court orders. Rather, 329 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: this defendant self surrendered and submitted himself to the court jurisdiction, 330 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: demonstrating compliance with the court order for his arrest. The 331 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: judge continued, I cannot find that the state is proven 332 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: by clear and convincing evidence that there are no release 333 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: conditions that would reasonably protect the safety of any younger 334 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: person in the community. 335 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 4: Let me just say to you, this is a. 336 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: Lot of legalese legal jargons saying there almost doesn't sound 337 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: like there is enough information to bring a court case 338 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: against him. 339 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: What brought in there, Like, you gotta think about that. 340 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: Well, what brought him? 341 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: There were two kids said years ago that he molested them, 342 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: but apparently they were fired on set for behavior cause 343 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: I don't know why they were fired. And you know, 344 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: now how many years later we're gonna take it to court. 345 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: After being released on his own recognizance, Busfield has been 346 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: ordered to appear for all his future court dates and 347 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: is not allowed to possess any firearms or dangerous weapons, 348 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: consume any alcohol or illegal drugs, have contact with the 349 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: alleged victims or their families, discussed the case of any witnesses, 350 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 3: or have unsupervised contact with any minor children. The judge 351 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: is allowing Busfield to travel, but he will be under 352 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: the supervision of pre trial services in New Mexico and 353 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: must notify the court of his address. Upon hearing the news, 354 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: Busfield's wife, Melissa Gilbert was seeing crime and whispering, thank 355 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: you God, it makes it gives me the chills, Susan. 356 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: That sounds like she was being supportive. 357 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: Such she was, She wrote a letter to the judge. 358 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: Gilbert supported her husband from the courtroom, along with her 359 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: eighty nine year old mom, Barbara Cowan, and her son Michael, 360 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: and Busfield civil lawyer Larry Steen. Busfield's brother Buck Busfield 361 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: was also in. 362 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: Attendance at the hearing. 363 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: Gilbert previously voiced her support, told I just said this 364 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: or her husband in a letter. 365 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: To the judge in this case. 366 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: In the defendant's response in opposition to the state's motion 367 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: for pre trial detention fouled on January sixteenth, Gilbert was 368 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: one of seventy five I want you to hear that, 369 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: seventy five people who wrote letters of support. She called 370 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: Busfield my life, my rock, my partner in business and life, 371 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: adding that she knows him better and more intimately than 372 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: anything in his life ever has. I'm trying to tow 373 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: a line between logic and all the frailings strolling around me. 374 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: I began this letter with logic, but now the feelings 375 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: have taken over. I can't help it, she wrote. I 376 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: only want this extraordinary man safe and whole. So I 377 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: will close by asking you to please please take care 378 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: of my sweet husband, as he is my protector. I 379 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: am his, but I cannot protect him now, and I 380 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: think that, more than anything else, is what is truly 381 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 3: breaking my heart. I am relying on you to protect 382 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: him for me, and he first appeared. I know. 383 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 384 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: He first appeared in front of a judge on Wednesday, 385 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: January fourteenth, after he was officially charged with two counts 386 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: of criminal sexual conduct of a minor that's a child 387 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: under thirteen and one kind of child abuse on January thirteenth, 388 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: according to prosecutors, Okay, here's what I got to say. 389 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: I want to hear your opinion. First of all, the 390 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: fact that seventy five people came to him, he turned 391 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: himself in. You know, there was a worn't for his arrest. 392 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: He drove to turn himself in. Seventy five letters from 393 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: We're not talking the mailman and the guy that works 394 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: at the grocery store. These are seventy five people out 395 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: of Hollywood who are putting their names on the line 396 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: to protect this guy, to stand. 397 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 4: Up for him. What do you think. I think it's 398 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 4: amazing myself. What do you think? 399 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: I think it's outstanding that people actually believe in him 400 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: and believe him like this could have been a case 401 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: of people looking for money. They're going to say he 402 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: did something that he didn't. That's the problem here. So 403 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: many I could never be a judge. I think I've 404 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: said this to you before so many people. You're innocent 405 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: until proven guilty, but not really based. 406 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: On what the judge says, there's no there's no grants. 407 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: But anyone that gets a sexual abuse charge to a minor, 408 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: to a child, it's an automatic. 409 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I hate you go to jail. 410 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 4: Right. 411 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: They don't even give him the bet. 412 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: That's why seventy five different people stood up for him. 413 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well, everyone's innocent. He'll proven guilty. Yes, 414 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: some brings a charge, they have to investigate it. But frankly, 415 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: for me, based on what the judge has said, he 416 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: said it's got no history of this. He is no 417 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: history to that. Like, where is this coming from? I 418 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: personally hope he gets off. I don't think it's true. 419 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: For her to write that letter and her emotional part 420 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: taking over pleading with this judge. Some people like even 421 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: at like a death of a child, not comparing to this, 422 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: But some marriages get even closer together, where other marriages 423 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: it's like a big knife right down the middle. 424 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: How do you feel this one's going. 425 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: I think her support is going to make him love 426 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: her even more. 427 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know that I hang around with a lot 428 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: of people in Hollywood and I and so I know 429 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: the ins and outs of this. 430 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: That's a joke. 431 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: But I think the fact that she wrote a letter 432 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 3: to the I think the fact that he turned himself 433 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: in and said this is preposterous and very calmly. I 434 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: think the fact that she from the very beginning, there 435 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: hasn't been one iota from her of questioning him, not one. 436 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 4: She it defends him. Care for the man who's cared 437 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: for me. 438 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I think that'll make her marriage even stronger. 439 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: I think they've been married, like, I don't know, close 440 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: to thirteen years, maybe fourteen. I think they have a 441 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: very close marriage. They both were married before they know 442 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: what it takes to make a strong marriage. I personally 443 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: think this is going to bring him closer together. I 444 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: think she's going to fight tooth and nail for his freedom. 445 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: And you know what, they have the money. 446 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: If God forbid, it was you, okay, and somebody plant 447 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: that seed, you have to question that. I know you 448 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: love your husband, and I know you think's he's absolutely 449 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: not guilty, but there's got to be one moment of 450 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: oh my god, could he have or no way? 451 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Well, I think it's yeah, no, 452 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: I think it's human nature to that to say, wait, 453 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: to maybe say for a fraction of a second season, 454 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: I might say what, and they're absolutely not, or have. 455 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: A conversation with him. 456 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: You No, never, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 457 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: For me, it would probably just blurred out of my mouth, 458 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: even though I would not knew. Yeah, oh my god, 459 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: I did not do anything like this, did you? 460 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? I can hear you doing that. 461 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is I can't imagine being 462 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: married to someone and I know you can't either where 463 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: that would be the case. And remember, we don't know. 464 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: There is more to this story than what we know. 465 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: So given that, I'm guessing there is more to the 466 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: story of these kids that we're never going to know 467 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: unless it gets to court, and then we're going to 468 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: hear all kinds of things. 469 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: And it depends on how big it is in court 470 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: and how loud it gets, whether it affects. 471 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: The marriage or not. 472 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: To certain things are said, questions that are asked, Sometimes 473 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: you just take a step back and go what the actual. 474 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: Okay, let's take a bet now. 475 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I think their marriage is going to 476 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: be a strong, if not stronger. 477 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: What do you think that's what I'm hoping for? 478 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, well, we're gonna keep watching this. 479 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 4: I just I really don't think so. 480 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but I feel I don't 481 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: know how much older these kids are now. 482 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: But you said it earlier. 483 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: I think sometimes people say something happened, you know, eighteen 484 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: years ago, and now he's got some money, I'm gonna 485 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: go after it, you know. 486 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: So, so I don't know. 487 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I think he's innocent. Let's pray that the judge thinks so. 488 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: And it sounds by the way the judge is saying, look, 489 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: you're not doing any. 490 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: Harm or I'm going to go when all alts fails. 491 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: It's their third marriage and the third time is the charm. 492 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll say stick with that and that's your good 493 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: luck chart. 494 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: Really, oh man, let's get into Shannon and God rest 495 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: the soul. Doherty ex husband Kurt is challenging he challenges 496 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: the divorce settlement two years after her death. He said 497 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: he's filed legal documents, which people obtained in Los Angeles 498 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: Superior Court on January fourteenth, nearly two months after her estate, 499 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: said he has failed to fulfill several monetary obligations and 500 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: provisions of the settlement that the alleged alleged that the 501 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: divorce settlement, which was signed by her by Shannon on 502 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: July twelfth, twenty twenty four, and Kurt on the following day, 503 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: and was finalized just before her death on July thirteenth 504 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: that year. Was brought in the wrong court, Kathy. Because 505 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: of this, he claimed, the court has no jurisdiction to 506 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: enforce the terms of the agreement. 507 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: Okay, wait before we continue, Before we continue, let me 508 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: just say to you. 509 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: You know, the US law is very particular, and people 510 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 3: win on on. 511 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: Technicalities all the time. 512 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 3: That's what he's trying to do, right, Well, you know, Okay, 513 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: keep going here, Okay, well here, let me give you 514 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: some more. He further argued that the divorce case should 515 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: have been put to an end when Doherty died after 516 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: years long battle with Cancler and the settlement shouldn't have 517 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: even been filed per the legal documents. This comes after 518 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Doherty's attorneys and Christopher Cortezzo, trustee of the Shannon Doherty 519 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: Family Trust, claimed in a filing on November twenty fourth, 520 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: that Israelanko still owes. 521 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: Money as part of the divorce settlement. Holy smokes. 522 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: This included a provision for him to sell Doherty's one 523 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: point five million Texas home and equally divide the net 524 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: proceeds with her estate. However, the filing stated that he 525 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: has refused to list the Dripping Springs home for sale. 526 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: You understand I live twenty minutes from this home. I'm 527 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: going to go check it out and see if I 528 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: can get it, okay. The filing also claimed that a 529 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 3: photographer was to buy out Doherty's share of a Mooney 530 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: M twenty airplane for one hundred thousand and pay that 531 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: sum to her estate within five business days of the sale. However, 532 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: he allegedly unilaterally withheld fifty two hundred and seventy four 533 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: dollars from Doherty's estate after making the sale in August 534 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, and as you have to pay 535 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: the SUN and. 536 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: D Her attorneys noted that that he has also refused 537 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: to return Doherty's items of personal property, including photographs of her, 538 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: which was another provision of the divorce settlement. 539 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: Why couldn't make any photos of her? 540 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: Keep going? 541 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't get that part. 542 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: I got thoughts, Keep going. 543 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: Okay? 544 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: He contended in his January fourteenth filing that Cortezza can't 545 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: Cortano failed to show he has authority under the trust 546 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: to have even introduced the motion in the first place. 547 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: Doherty filed for divorce in twenty twenty three after eleven 548 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: years of marriage. I'm believed her representation, Leslie Sloane, told 549 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: people in a statement at the time, divorce is the 550 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: last thing Shannon wanted. Unfortunately, she felt she was left 551 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: with no other option. 552 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: Okay, what he's trying to do. 553 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: Can I just say to you, you know who wins 554 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: in these cases, not the not the estate of the deceased, 555 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: and not her ex husband. 556 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: The lawyers, that's the wins. 557 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: They're going to argue point after poor, legality over legality, 558 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: and anyone you know, is he supposed to send the money? 559 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: Is he's supposed to Is the divorce supposed to happen? 560 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: The interrupt for one second. 561 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: So she passes before they sell the one point five 562 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: million dollar home in Texas. If we divide the proceeds 563 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: with her estate, Okay, she passed, her estate gets happened. 564 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: He gets halp, Is that with this is? 565 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean, last time I checked my legal decree from 566 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: the law school. 567 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: I intended in Texas. 568 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if you go way back up to 569 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: the this whole story began. 570 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: He refused to list it. 571 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: He's contending it was filed in the wrong court and 572 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: the court has no jurisdiction to enforce the terms of 573 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: the agreement. So you know whether or not, I think 574 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 3: it's all going to be rewound to whether the court 575 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: has jurisdiction, and if they don't have jurisdiction, and if 576 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: they she died inadvertently, you know, she died before everything 577 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: was finalized and then and then filed in the wrong court. 578 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: By the letter of the law, he may inherit everything. 579 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: You know, it's it made just technicality. 580 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: Listen, where I live, A guy just won a quarter 581 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: of a million dollars on it in RhoA on a technicality. 582 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: To make sure a slow year roll dot your eyes 583 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: and cross every tea. 584 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, it's like, you know what I want 585 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: to do. I want to go. Literally, Dripping Springs is 586 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: twenty minutes from. 587 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: Where I live, and I wonder why, you know why 588 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: he's refused to list the home. I mean, he's not 589 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: living in it, so but I guess the money would 590 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: go to the estate. 591 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Your backer pictures like, what is that about? 592 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think Susan that if it's I 593 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: think he does not want to honor. 594 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: This is my guest. 595 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer. He doesn't want to honor any 596 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: aspect of the divorce screen because if you honor one 597 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: part of it, you got to honor the rest of it. 598 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: He's saying they have no right to tell him to 599 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: give him back. I don't think he wants him. I 600 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: think he's arguing it again as a point of law. 601 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: And you know, I wanted to go to law school. 602 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: I wish I had gone so I could work on 603 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: this case. 604 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: I would be her in a courtroom. I'd walk out 605 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, it's all you may so. 606 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Out of everything we covered today, you know what really 607 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: sticks in my mind what I never got a divorce ring. 608 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: I want to do that tweet. You didn't get a 609 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: divorce ring. 610 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 3: You didn't get a tattoo, you didn't have a divorce party. 611 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: Bracelets. 612 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: I told you all the bracelets on my arm every 613 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: time I did a guy and it doesn't work out. 614 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: That's what you and I started to We keep buying bracelets. 615 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: The hell the hell would The ring men are dumb. 616 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: They see a ring with diamonds on your hand, they 617 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: think you're unavailable. 618 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: Both of the bracelets I don't know. Let me just 619 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: say one thing that I really want to say. 620 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: Divorce sucks. We all know that it's hard. It's rarely amicable. 621 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 3: You had one, but it rarely is amicable. And I 622 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: feel sorry for celebrities because not only are they having 623 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: to navigate the rough roads of financial emotional, they're doing 624 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: it in the public eye. 625 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: Yes, we now know what that's like, Kathy. 626 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: Everything we do, we're scrutinized in the on social media, 627 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: a lot of good positive things, but imagine doing saying 628 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: these things what social media has to say. 629 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: Well, I want to continue watching how these guys get 630 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 3: through chapter two. 631 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: I want to be invited to a divorce party. 632 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: I want to see if they start dating, what they 633 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: do with all this jewelry and tattoos when they find 634 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: the next man or woman of the dreams? 635 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 4: What do they do? What do they do? Get a 636 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: big X through through the tattoo and give the ring. 637 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: The diamond better be big enough to cover that tattoo. 638 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: That's all. That's a no brainer. And Dan, this was 639 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: a lot to cover. 640 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: But I think we can all learn a lot from 641 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: just hearing how other people, even celebrities, navigate through Chapter two. 642 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 4: Really. 643 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: If you need some advice, call us or email us. 644 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: All the InFocus in the show notes, follow us on socials. 645 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: Make sure to rate and review the podcast 646 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: I Do Part two and iHeartRadio podcast where falling in 647 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: love is the main objective