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Speaker 3: The way tire buying should be. Well, Richie, here we are.

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Speaker 2: We got one more preseason game, one more preseason game

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Speaker 2: Houston and New Orleans, and then next oh not next week,

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Speaker 2: the week after that we actually start the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Talk me off the led share Richie at the top

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Speaker 2: I know this has happened in the last couple of

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Speaker 2: years once they reduced the preseason from four to three games,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still trying to handle the idea that we

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Speaker 2: have a bye week before the first week of the

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Speaker 1: Now, I get it, and it is a frustration for many,

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Speaker 1: not just you. But we are but we are we

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Speaker 1: are still, we are still a little ways away from kickoff.

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Speaker 1: I did this actually midweek last week. I was talking

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Speaker 1: about the NFL season. I'm like, my goodness, you could,

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Speaker 1: you could smell it, you could almost taste it. We're

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Speaker 1: almost inside of one week away from the NFL season

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Speaker 1: kicking off. Enough of this preseason and then, of course,

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Speaker 1: like over over the talkback, which is the behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes Mike, I hear someone in my year ago the

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Speaker 1: NFL season doesn't kick off for two weeks. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Just unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 2: You know, yesterday I was talking to Carry Road, your

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Speaker 2: former teammate with the Arizona Cardinals. Obviously this was not

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Speaker 2: around this bye week before Week one of the NFL

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Speaker 3: So how do I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Curious now because again they're gonna cut the rosters. By

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Speaker 2: the way, you may remember, it was.

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Speaker 3: A layered cut.

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Speaker 2: It was this is now goes from ninety to fifty

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Speaker 2: And I guess when you have that kind of avalanche

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Speaker 2: it gives the teams an extra week maybe to you know,

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Speaker 2: But if you're securely on the roster, especially if you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, all these are good questions. So first of all,

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Speaker 1: I think the reason why they kept the week instead

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Speaker 1: there's over eleven hundred football players who were on a

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Speaker 1: So those eleven hundred players, now all of them aren't

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Speaker 2: Now, yesterday was one of the most bizarre preseason performances

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 2: We're going to give you every opportunity in this last

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Speaker 2: I mean, when do we ever see that in a

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Speaker 2: We appreciate what you've done the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately they did, but why was there a delay?

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Speaker 2: All right, So ug eleven days away from the first

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Speaker 2: But on the other side, we're gonna get to the

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is making progress. Remember the horrific start they

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Speaker 1: I'm not as sure as you are. And look, this

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Speaker 1: This is the first time that defense has seen a

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Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the ball around. That's that's what they

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Speaker 2: Steve Well, again, I'm gonna circle that date because USC's

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Speaker 3: But starting with that, notre Dame game.

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Speaker 3: But it's a backloaded schedule. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's Bowl record is one in four. So Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I heard Jeff Schwartz earlier, our friend talking about USC

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Speaker 3: He's like, look, when you.

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Speaker 2: coming out full week one. That's all we got next

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Speaker 3: Find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 2: So Monsey is here today, and so Monsey again, we're

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Speaker 7: Yes, no, no, not yet.

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Speaker 3: We're still two weeks, two Sundays away.

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Speaker 8: I am going to give a little bit of credit

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Speaker 2: I can't see it with that beard. That's where I

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Speaker 7: He said, I gave it to my mom.

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Speaker 3: I mean to me, Like the Flintstone's rib rib.

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 7: And then I saw the necklace.

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Speaker 8: I was like, okay, wead okay, we.

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Speaker 7: Made it into a little necklace for you to wear.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I said, why was this morning to get Joshah?

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Speaker 8: So what happened like within year in the off season, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is still bizarre behavior.

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Speaker 7: Everybody yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: That's okay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I mean again, I really am just glad

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Speaker 8: it wasn't like this giant rib that we're just going

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Speaker 8: to carry around for good luck.

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Speaker 7: You know, that it's something small and dainty.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm just it's so weird for me. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it would be great Sam one. You know, obviously we

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Speaker 2: talked about him when he was a wake four, especially

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, but my whole life I've

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Speaker 2: hated Notre Dame. I mean, it's it's like it's like

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Speaker 2: my I mean, imagine if Sam Harbin builds on what

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Speaker 2: we saw yesterday and and really gets into this Heisman Chase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he had a good year last year, was

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Speaker 1: out there. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: All right, guys, let's do a little NFL news because

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Speaker 8: the Dolphins have agreed to a three year extension with

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Speaker 8: defensive lineman Zach Zeeler. It's worth up to thirty eight

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Speaker 8: million dollars with twenty million guaranteed. And last night, receiver

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Speaker 8: Daywood Davis was off the field during the Dolphins preseason

467
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Speaker 8: game in Jacksonville. But good news because he has been

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Speaker 8: released from the hospital and he's headed back to Miami today.

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Speaker 7: In college sports.

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Speaker 8: It is confirmed one hundred percent that Arizona STATEUS expects

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Speaker 8: to self impose a one year bowl band for the

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three football season. This decision stems from the

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Speaker 8: ongoing nc double investigation for alleged violations that occurred under

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Speaker 8: former coach Irm Edwards.

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Speaker 7: And did you guys see that NASCAR crash?

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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness. I mean, when you need to find

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Speaker 7: out of it.

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Speaker 2: The car flip what a dozen times easily and it

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Speaker 2: was violent, violently spinning like he climbed out of there himself.

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Speaker 7: He was released. Driver Ryan Priest was released from the

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Speaker 7: hospital today. He said at home.

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Speaker 8: He even tweeted after the race quote if you want

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Speaker 8: to be a race car driver, you better be tough.

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Speaker 7: I'm coming back end quote.

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Speaker 2: So the safety measures that they've had in racing, because

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Speaker 2: I'm a big racing fan, especially with the long history

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Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis und I think I remember I was

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Speaker 2: looking at the roster of the thirty three drivers let's

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Speaker 2: say in the mid sixties at one race, and within

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Speaker 2: I don't know, five years, a third of the.

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Speaker 3: Field was gone. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm bridy and.

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Speaker 2: You remember remember those old pictures, they would have an

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Speaker 2: open cock built like with a helmet, like a leather helmet,

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Speaker 2: Like that's going to do anything.

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Speaker 3: R Watching that accident, knowing that he climbed.

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Speaker 7: Out of it is in.

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Speaker 1: Mind bogg I mean, I here's another thing. Now that

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Speaker 1: he's healthy and walked away from it, how dizzy would

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Speaker 1: you have been?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do you even find your way out of there? Right?

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Speaker 1: I honestly think it was more than a dozen times.

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Speaker 1: I think he spun something like twenty times.

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Speaker 8: It just happened so fast, like it was incredible, unreal,

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Speaker 8: and it didn't stop.

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Speaker 7: You were like, is it not going to stop?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's happening so fast in the moment

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Speaker 2: your brain can't be up really.

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Speaker 3: Functioning at that point.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, just hoping that you can open your

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Speaker 10: eyes exactly.

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Speaker 8: And I'm unfortunate news Brown's receiver and returner Jaquem Grant

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Speaker 8: did rupture his potaca attendant and yesterday's preseason game at

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Speaker 8: Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: So this guy blew out his achilles a year ago,

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Speaker 2: a year ago, and then in a preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and early season.

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Speaker 7: In the early preseason game too.

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Speaker 3: Remind me again of why we have preseason game that

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: At some point they got to say this is absurd.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there was.

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Speaker 3: Every time I see.

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Speaker 2: Somebody season end because of an injury in a preseason games.

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Speaker 7: Why, yeah, so unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, Monsie, thank you very much. We'll check in

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Speaker 1: So rich.

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Speaker 2: You know how much of a college football fan I am.

536
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Speaker 2: I know how much a college football fan you are.

537
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: And this is the final season at least of college

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Speaker 2: football as we have known it for I don't know,

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Speaker 2: the better part of one hundred years. I mean, we've

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Speaker 2: seen a few schools over the years. Your Nitney Lyons

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Speaker 2: went from being an independent to a member of the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten, and of course Nebraska left the old Big

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Speaker 2: Eight to go to the Big Ten. But we have

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Speaker 2: an unrecognizable college football landscape in twenty four based on

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Speaker 2: what we're still watching in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 2: Next year, you're gonna have Texas and Oklahoma leaving to

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Speaker 2: go into the SCC. You're gonna have four PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: schools move into the Big Ten. You're gonna have four

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Speaker 2: other PAC twelve schools moving into the Big twelve. Couple

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Speaker 2: of Big PAC twelve schools moving into the ACC, most

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Speaker 2: likely meaning the PAC twelve will cease and desist. By

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Speaker 2: the way, after all these years of having direct TV

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Speaker 2: and no access to the PAC twelve network, I have spectrum.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm actually watching the PAC twelve network final in

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Speaker 2: its final season.

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Speaker 3: It's the farewell season.

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Speaker 2: And also next year we go from this four school

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Speaker 2: please don't call it a playoff to a twelve school. Wow,

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever, we actually have a legitimate playoff.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to react to this really final

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Speaker 2: season of college football as we have known it for

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Speaker 2: the better part of one hundred years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. There's a certain there's a

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Speaker 1: certain level of nostalgia, and I think there'll be a

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Speaker 1: certain level of maybe. I guess the best way I

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Speaker 1: could describe it is I'll miss it to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: But at the same token. I'm a big believer in change. Now,

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Speaker 1: not all changes are great, and I definitely agree that,

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes changes can be for the worst, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen that many times. But when a change occurs, they

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Speaker 1: all feel uncomfortable at first, Like they never feel move

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Speaker 1: at first. There's always growing pains of one you know,

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Speaker 1: one way or another, there's gonna be some growing pains.

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Speaker 1: So I this, this is gonna be no different next season.

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Speaker 1: Getting used to saying big ten team USC and UCLA

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Speaker 1: or Oregon and Washington, Like I mean, that's that's bonkers,

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Speaker 1: Like that doesn't compute. Really, you know the fact that

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is legitimately we're all joking about it now,

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Speaker 1: but the PAC twelve is legitimately going to be down

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Speaker 1: to four teams unless they make a change. That's bizarre

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Speaker 1: and that's uncomfortable. But what my sincere hope is is

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Speaker 1: that the PAC twelve can find a way to put

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Speaker 1: together a different collection of teams and to still keep

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Speaker 1: their their name and still operate as one of the

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Speaker 1: Power five conferences. And really, you know, look, if you

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Speaker 1: if you kind of look at it, if cal and

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Speaker 1: Stanford stay and they add teams like a San Diego

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Speaker 1: State and an SMU, and we'll see what out, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe a UNLV. You know, there's a couple other teams,

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Speaker 1: a couple other markets where they can gobble up some

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Speaker 1: teams from other group of five conferences. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: much different outside of TCU's most recent run will the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve then look then the Big twelve and the

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Speaker 1: answer is really not that much different. Now, the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve did just pick up Utah, which is a name,

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Speaker 1: but you could still put together a reasonable conference here.

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Speaker 1: And so outside of the nostalgia, outside of like that

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Speaker 1: feeling of oh, I'm gonna miss the way college football

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Speaker 1: used to be, I'm kind of excited to see what

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Speaker 1: happens next. I'm sort of I'm very interested in seeing

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Speaker 1: how conference realignment lands over this next season or so,

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Speaker 1: but also over this next decade. I mean, we could

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Speaker 1: see a situation where maybe the Big ten just continue

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Speaker 1: to grow and gobble up more and more of these

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Speaker 1: conferences to the point where they have to sever off

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Speaker 1: into three separate divisions, and maybe the SEC is going

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Speaker 1: to do the same thing. Well, and I'm just very

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Speaker 1: curious to see what direction this heads and how fast

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Speaker 1: it takes for those directions to be met.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the two words you always hear connected to

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Speaker 2: college football, tradition and rivalries. The traditions don't change. Every

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Speaker 2: school's got its own traditions, and game day is going

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Speaker 2: to be the same. The opponents are going to be different.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about rivalries. You know, there are rivalries

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Speaker 2: that stand the test of time. You think of USC

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I mean that rivalry is not going to

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Speaker 2: go anywhere, but there was a time. There's literally a

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Speaker 2: whole generation of college football fans today that have no

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Speaker 2: idea that Nebraska Oklahoma used to be one of the

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Speaker 1: Oh, they have no idea.

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Speaker 2: They have no idea because this was the big matchup,

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Speaker 2: and that the Big Twelve used to be the Big

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Speaker 2: Eight and LESCo Oklahoma were like top five ranked teams

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Speaker 2: every year and their game at the end of the

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Speaker 2: year was one of those Michigan, Ohio State Auburn, Alabama

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Speaker 2: one of those type of games. And it all and

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Speaker 2: when Nebraska left for the Big Ten. So and then

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Speaker 2: then you get temporary rivalries, you know, like the uh

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Speaker 2: what was it the Convicts versus the Catholics. You know,

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Speaker 2: remember that when you had Miami, you Notre Dame had

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Speaker 2: a rivalry for a while, and then for a brief

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Speaker 2: period it was Florida State. The emergence of Florida, Florida

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Speaker 2: State and Miami as football powers created some temporary rivalries.

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Speaker 2: I guess what I really want to get into to

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Speaker 2: take it a step further, though, Rich, is just some

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Speaker 2: of the logistics of creating coast to coast rivalries and

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Speaker 2: what it actually means. Because when you mix in name, image, likeness,

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Speaker 2: the fact that these college players now by and large,

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Speaker 2: getting paid and in many cases millions of dollars. How

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Speaker 2: much has this changed the dynamic and does it even

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Speaker 2: matter for rivalries. We'll get into this as we get

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Speaker 2: We're talking a little college football as we really get

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Speaker 2: into everything next week full slate of games. We've been

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Speaker 2: talking about the changing landscape after this season for college football.

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Speaker 2: I want to get into just some of the logistics here.

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Speaker 2: For instance, see discussions going on right now of Stanford

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Speaker 2: now scattered all over the place, whether they're in the

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: Midwest and the mid north East coast. I mean, it's

661
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: it's coast to coast right now. And somehow we're still

662
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: trying to hang on to that idea of a student

663
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: athlete when in reality now these are paid professionals. Should

664
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Speaker 2: we look at this completely differently now because of name, image,

665
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: likeness and what we're asking our student athletes to do

666
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: in terms of traveling coast to coast and some of

667
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: the other inconveniences that really were not part of what

668
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 2: they were. I mean, you know, it's everything was very regional.

669
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: You didn't have long to travel. Occasionally, there was some

670
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, early season game every where he had a

671
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: cross country trip. This is going to go on on

672
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: a regular basis. Now, with these conferences scattered all over

673
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: the country, should we ask more of today's student athlete fleet,

674
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: now that the money's going into their pockets.

675
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: Ask more of the student athletes.

676
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are paid professionals, now are they not?

677
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: So you're they've always been. They've always been. Let's be

678
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: very clear, like, even if you are a walk on

679
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: on a football team, there were certain things that you

680
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: were receiving that other students couldn't receive, you know, the

681
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: access you had, some of the meals that were provided,

682
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: the travel. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's part

683
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: of being a part of this group. And walk on

684
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: to many cases are paying the entirety of their school tuition,

685
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: but so are the rest of the students on campus.

686
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: The reason why, let's be very honest with each other,

687
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: the only reason why these athletes haven't been considered professionals

688
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: is because these universities don't want to give them the

689
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: rights that other workers get to enjoy this country. That's it.

690
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: That's it, that's the whole thing. So that's the reason

691
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: why the n double A is a nonprofit. That's the

692
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: reason why these players were only paid with tuitions for

693
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: a very long time. And the reason why this is

694
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: all changing is because there's been outcry from these players

695
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: who have, in their own words, felt like they've been

696
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: taken advantage of for all these years and want to

697
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: start doing something about it. And so you saw coalitions

698
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: forming not you know, a couple of years ago during

699
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: the pandemic, you know, and you saw like the potential

700
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: for players to begin unionizing, and all of these conferences

701
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: and all of these universities looked at each other and

702
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, oh, can't do that. Can't allow

703
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: them to unionize, because then all of a sudden will

704
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: be on the hook for a lot more money than

705
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: we are now. So they allowed for name, image and

706
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: likeness to occur. And so, yeah, I'm not against any

707
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: of this. I'm not against the travel, the logistics like

708
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: and to be perfectly honest with you, that's the university

709
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and the conferences problems. That's not the problems of the players. Now. Yeah,

710
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean there'll be some players who say, hey, it's

711
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: really difficult to study for you know, my my history

712
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: final when I'm I'm logging six thousand miles over a

713
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: weekend to play against you know, some some team in

714
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: the Northeast, you know, like a Penn State. If I'm

715
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a player on on a A, UCLA or

716
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: a USC, I mean, okay, that's that's a gripe. I

717
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: get it. You know, a late season game against Rutgers

718
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: for UCLA may may get in the way of the

719
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: final schedule from some of those players. But but I

720
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I got I honestly feel like the people who are

721
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: going to be complaining about this the most the loudest

722
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: are the schools because they're going to have to commit

723
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: more money in their budget to traveling not only the

724
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: football team and the basketball team, which makes some profit

725
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: for their their athletic program, but also the track teams,

726
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: the Olympic sports, Yeah, the Olympic Sports, the softball team,

727
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: the volleyball teams. Like that's where the rubber really meets

728
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: the road.

729
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's again.

730
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Speaker 2: You can have a game plan and we talk about

731
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: how much money is being doled out to each one

732
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: of these schools and it looks good, but you haven't

733
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: applied it yet. No, so you know it looks all right, Well,

734
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: we have a budget of thirty million dollars, well, actually

735
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Speaker 2: cover it.

736
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Speaker 3: And then a couple of years in and You're like,

737
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: we're in trouble. I mean, you see.

738
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Speaker 2: To give you an idea, when UCLA desperately hooked on

739
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: with usc to join the Big Ten, the UCLA athletic

740
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: department was one hundred million dollars in the red.

741
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: You're like, how's that possible?

742
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: How could your athletic to beat department have that kind

743
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: of deficit? It tells you the cost of maintaining these

744
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: athletic programs. Again, just the revenue sports. Another problem for

745
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: UCLA is they play in a half empty Rose Bowl. Yep,

746
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: they're not filling up seventy eighty thousand. They get thirty thousand,

747
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,520
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748
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,600
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749
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
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750
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Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to figure this out down the road.

751
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad enough.

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Speaker 2: That is a good thing, all right, Rich. I want

779
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: to get to this forty nine ers story. And you know,

780
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: I was hearing our buddy Colin Coward the other day

781
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: lashing out the critics, you know, being critical of the

782
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: complete bus drafting of Trey Lance and all the draft

783
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: capital because they got their franchise quarterback in the seventh round.

784
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: So I did a little research on brock Party's numbers

785
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: last season compared to Jimmy Garoppolo.

786
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: Last year.

787
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, starting ten games, completed sixty seven point two

788
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: percent of his passes. Brock Purty, who started five games,

789
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: completed sixty seven point one same touchdown to interception ratio.

790
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: Brock Purty was thirteen touchdowns four picks. Garoppolo was sixteen

791
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: touchdowns four picks. Right, both of them had passer ratings

792
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: almost identical. In fact, if you look at these numbers

793
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: across the board, there is very little to distinguish what

794
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Garoppolo did last season and what brock Purty did last season.

795
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Now we know this about Jimmy Garoppolo because we talked

796
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: about this for years. Rich In games that Jimmy Garoppolo

797
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: started under Kyle Shanahan as opposed to those games that

798
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: he didn't start, it was like night and day, a

799
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: complete reversal of fortune for the forty nine ers when

800
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo was starting and when he wasn't starting, that

801
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: changed with Brock Purty. Rock Purty became Jimmy Garoppolo. So

802
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: you wanted to move Garoppolo out. You get a seventh

803
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: round pick for next to nothing, and he turns out

804
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: to be exactly that, another Jimmy Garoppolo. The idea that

805
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: the party is a franchise quarterback, well, you could say

806
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: Garoppolo was. He just couldn't stay healthy and already Perty's

807
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: had his first injury in that conference championship game. But

808
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone. I mean, it's a great story,

809
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: believe me. You know, mister l irrelevant becomes you know,

810
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: a top flight quarterback. I'm just not quite there yet,

811
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: because again, Purty last year did exactly what Garoppolo was

812
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: already doing. When you have a Deebo Samuel, when you

813
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: have a Christian McCaffrey, when you have a George Kettle,

814
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: when you have when you have these, you know, it's

815
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: like handing the keys to the Lamborghini. So I you know,

816
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: I hope does plays well. I don't think they really

817
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: require that much out of the quarterback position. If Garoppolo

818
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: was good enough, then I guess Purdy's good enough.

819
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: But I don't feel comfortable.

820
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: With the idea that Purdy is a next level quarterback

821
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: when in reality he's exactly what Jimmy Garoppolo was.

822
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand the overhype on Brock Purdy. Now.

823
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: I think this is more regionalized. I think it's mostly

824
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers fan who have become very dependent, yes,

825
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: but also defensive of Brock Purty. But I also think

826
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: there have been some analysts who played football or have

827
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: watched football written about football for their entire lives, and

828
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: are watching Brock and probably making more out of the

829
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: very short sample size that we experienced last year, then

830
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: they really should. Look. I'm not saying he can't be

831
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: the next Tom Brady, and he can't go on to

832
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: smash passing records and become something that many wouldn't expect

833
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: a last overall pick could become in the NFL, including

834
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: by the way, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, because

835
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: the only reason why they drafted them drafted him is

836
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: because they had an empty spot on their quarterback roster,

837
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: and they needed a warm body for camp, and it

838
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: saves you the time of going out and finding an

839
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. You could just draft the guy because hey,

840
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: maybe he was the next on your board. Anyways, Okay,

841
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: off to the races we go. If you ask Kyle

842
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Shanahan or John Lynch, hey, how much faith are you

843
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: going to put in Brock Pardy being the guy this

844
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: season to lead you guys to the NFC Championship game?

845
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: They would have told you zero on draft Day. And

846
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: that's okay because sometimes luck or life works out this way.

847
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: But to sit here and to say Brock party is

848
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know even a Jimmy Garoppolo or even a

849
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins or even a Dak Prescott. These are some

850
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: of the comparisons I've been hearing. Kirk Cousins has done

851
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: this for a decade. Dak is getting close. Jimmy Garoppolo,

852
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: He's been hurt a lot, but has an enormous sample

853
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: size of games that we could go back and talk

854
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: about his statistical achievements over a course of a career

855
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: playoff record. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo has been doing this

856
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: for a very long time. It's almost insulting to compare

857
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: brock Purdy to any of those names yet because he

858
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything in this league yet. Actually, that's not

859
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: being fair. What he did was admirable. What he did

860
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: was impressive and in some cases amazing. The level of

861
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: composure that he showed playing in games of that of

862
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: that importance as a rookie and and performing as well

863
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: as he did, that cannot be That cannot be overlooked

864
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: because that is a really big deal. But Brock Party

865
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: has everything to prove still, And for anybody out there

866
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: who's listening to this who has that like defensiveness, you

867
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: know growing inside of them, that the hair on the

868
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: back of your neck is starting to stand up. Because

869
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm talking bad about Brock Purty. I'm not talking bad

870
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: about Brock Purty. All I'm saying is we don't have

871
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: enough evidence at the NFL level to know who the

872
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: hell this guy is, So stop making these bold proclamations

873
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: that you know that he's the next Montana or Young

874
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: or better than Trey Lance or as good as the

875
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins or Jimmy Garoppolo, because guess what, we don't

876
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: know yet. There were people out there who were saying

877
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: RG three is going to be a Hall of Famer

878
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: after his rookie season. Okay, we saw how that worked out. Now,

879
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: it's it all his fault. No, he had a horrific

880
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: knee injury. He never really recovered from it. His career

881
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL spiraled after that. Colin Kaepernick, same thing

882
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for crying out loud. People were saying,

883
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: this is the man who is going to shepherd in

884
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: the new era of the NFL. He is the face

885
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: of the new du dual threat quarterback and everybody's gonna

886
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: try to copy what the Niners are doing. Well, guess what.

887
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: He fizzled out too. Like there, there are moments in

888
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: the league where everybody's hair sets on fire and they

889
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: start saying things that don't really make sense. This is

890
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: one of them. We have no idea who brought party

891
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: is yet, we just don't have enough evidence.

892
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: It is way too early to call him a franchise quarterback.

893
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Let's way too early.

894
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: So let's get back to the Trey Lance Dale, you

895
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: and I were on the air. We were talking about when

896
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers traded three number ones to move

897
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: up to get this third overall pick, and we didn't

898
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: know where direction. We started hearing rumors they're going after

899
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: mac Jones. I'm like, mac Jones, You're going to trade

900
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: up for mac Jones. As it turned out, if they

901
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: really wanted mac Jones, they could have stayed at twelve

902
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: and gotten him because he went on the board after that.

903
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: So as it turnedout, when they announced Trey Lance, the

904
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: thought process was and I think going back to the

905
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs going after Patrick Mahomes. They had Alex Smith,

906
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: who's like Jimmy Garoppolo, right, I mean, Alex Smith is

907
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: a very serviceable He's won a lot more games than

908
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: he has lost. But Andy Reid and the Chiefs felt

909
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: we need to get a quarterback that can take us

910
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: to the next level, so they go after Patrick Mahomes.

911
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: And it's been pure gold obviously ever since. But he

912
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: had to be realistic with Trey Lance.

913
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

914
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy who literally, over the

915
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: last five years, has played in less than twenty games.

916
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, even at the collegiate level, you're talking an

917
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: FCS quarterback at North Dakota State. And if you don't

918
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: know everything about North Dakota State, They're like an FBS

919
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: school playing FCS football. That's why they win the championship

920
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: seeming they won five in a row at one point.

921
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 2: They just have more talent than the teams they're playing against. Still,

922
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: that he had no interceptions, twenty eight touchdowns, ran for

923
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: eleven hundred yards at all looked good. But this was

924
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: a Kyle Shanahan pick. Let's make no mistake about this.

925
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: He felt like, I need in my head the genius

926
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: offense that I have, that I need a quarterback that

927
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: can do more, when in reality, he had the quarterback

928
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: that he needed in Jimmy Garoppolo. He just couldn't stay healthy.

929
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: And we'll see whether or not brock Perty can stay

930
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: healthy because you don't need to have a lot of

931
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: extras out of your quarterback when you got the skill

932
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: players that the forty nine ers have. So I think

933
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan overplayed his hand in terms of what he

934
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: envisioned it. He could take his offense to, you know,

935
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: new levels that we've never seen before, when in reality,

936
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: he already had an offense that was operating as well

937
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: as it possibly can and now he has again another

938
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo guy. Then get the ball to the right

939
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: guys in the right spot and everything is good. So

940
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: there is no excusing the forty nine ers for this none.

941
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: It was a disastrous trade. And by the way, if

942
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: you look at players they could have gotten in the draft.

943
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: You're talking about the trade to get Trey Lance.

944
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: To get Trey Lance, I mean they was the twelfth pick.

945
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know they could have gotten a certain linebacker

946
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: in that draft that is now playing with the Dallas Cowboys.

947
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: How would he look on their defense?

948
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: He's worked out. Look, here here's the thing I will

949
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: say about Trey Lance. Did he get enough of a

950
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: shot to make any bold proclamation. That's a fair question

951
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: about him. And my answer to that question is no.

952
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: But there are much different expectations on a pick who's

953
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: taken in the top five than there are on, for example,

954
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: picks that are taken in the seventh round. Look, I mean,

955
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: if you pay somebody, I don't know, twenty bucks because

956
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: they're doing your neighbor's lawn to come over and mow

957
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: your lawn real quick, because yeah, your back's hurting and

958
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to get all the lawn gear out,

959
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: and they do kind of a half assed job. But

960
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: you know what, it's twenty bucks. Here's twenty bucks. You know,

961
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: at least a lawns cut, whatever. But if you're going

962
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: to pay someone one hundred thousand dollars or one hundred

963
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars to completely demolish the outdoor landscape

964
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: and hard scapes and put in brand new trees and

965
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: pour you a driveway out of concrete and build you

966
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: a sleep path up to your front doorway and a

967
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: deck out back, and they do half ass work, You're

968
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a big problem with that because it's a

969
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: difference of investment a twenty dollars bill to the kid

970
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: who's mowing your neighbor's long to come over and take

971
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: down to save your back for a weekend versus somebody

972
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: who you're going to make a substantial investment with, you're

973
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: going to have very different feelings about those two jobs.

974
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: And so with Trey Lance, for example, I mean, compare

975
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: them to any quarterback in this league who has taken

976
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: in the top five, and you're going to feel like,

977
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: even in that conversation, it was disappointing because you're expecting

978
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: somebody to walk through the doors and change the face

979
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: of the franchise forever like that is the amount. And

980
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: if you're going to trade first round capital to go

981
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: up and get this player, even more so, you're saying

982
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a franchise changing player,

983
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: because guess what, when you invest those picks into that player,

984
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: you're leveraging the future of your franchise. Now, I don't

985
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: think it's as consequential as some people will say, Well,

986
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: that affects your you know, your ability to build for

987
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: a decade. No, that's not true. It hurts you for

988
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: about three years. And when that three year timer went

989
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: off in John Lynch's head and Kyle Shanahan's head, they said,

990
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: you know what, sometimes you just got to fold the hand.

991
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to move on and say we missed.

992
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: You know, we try to bluff our way through the

993
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: river and get to the final draw. We can't do

994
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: it anymore. So here we go. We're folding the hand. Dallas,

995
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: what is it? A fourth rounder? Okay, at least we

996
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: got something for him. And that's exactly what happened. The

997
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: expectations were insanely high. He wasn't able to produce due

998
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: to injury, and by the way, when he got out there.

999
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, it didn't look great. So whether or not

1000
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: you believe he got a fair shake, which I agree

1001
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: with you, it's too short of a sample to our

1002
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: that he's a terrible quarterback at the NFL level. I

1003
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: don't believe in that. I think he needs a fresh

1004
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: start elsewhere. But it did not work for the forty

1005
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: nine ers, and they did the only thing they could do,

1006
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: which is get rid of them.

1007
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, and we'll get into why the Cowboys of

1008
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: all teams were interested in Trey Lance a little later.

1009
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: But on the other side, I want to get to

1010
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: the importance of outcomes in preseason games, especially for one team,

1011
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: one team that we may have really found out a

1012
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: lot about this team and their coach in this preseason

1013
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: Tell you which team that is. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1014
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Rich Ormberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

1015
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: from the tay Iraq dot Com studios now as we

1016
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: get ready for two weeks from today. Rich, Yeah, Iowa

1017
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Sam who has had Sam am I overstating it. You've

1018
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 2: had a crazy schedule over the last month plus here

1019
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio.

1020
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

1021
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 10: Yes, Sid, I was just talking Rich about it. Actually

1022
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 10: about the last six weeks to two months, I'd say, yeah.

1023
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: I mean you've been all over overnight, you know the day.

1024
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean, just you don't know where you are half

1025
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: the time.

1026
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1027
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 10: I don't know what day it is. I don't know month.

1028
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 10: I only know that college football is like it's starting soon.

1029
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 10: But is it still August or is it December?

1030
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what the point I want to make here, Sam,

1031
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: is that for those that have listened to us over

1032
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: the years here on our Fox Sports Sunday especially during

1033
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: the NFL season or Red Zone Radio, you are a

1034
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: huge part of this and you informed us that you're

1035
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: not going to go the distance this year with us.

1036
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: You'll start the season, but due to where you're needed here,

1037
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: yes at Fox Sports Radio, eventually you'll be off Sundays.

1038
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I won't be here on the weekends and probably

1039
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 10: the next two to four weeks. So I'm going to

1040
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 10: be uh the overnight tech producer for the Ben Maller

1041
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 10: Show and Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Monday

1042
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 10: through Friday. So sadly, I was just telling Richard I

1043
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 10: wanna miss you and miss rich and everybody. Monsei, I'm

1044
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 10: only gonna be around like four or five people regularly

1045
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 10: most most of the time.

1046
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: Now rit to you know how we always operate on

1047
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: NFL Sunday because we have you know, eight nine, ten

1048
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: games going on simultaneously. We need a lot of eyes

1049
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: on the games open mics for everybody.

1050
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: This is first of all, it's gonna be sad to

1051
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: uh to see Sammy.

1052
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 11: Go.

1053
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Is there any way

1054
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: with the overnight schedule that you're gonna be doing during

1055
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: the weekdays for you to hang in there for one

1056
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: more for one last ride, kind of like Fast and

1057
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: the Furious. Is it possible?

1058
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't quite get the days off.

1059
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: I would like.

1060
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 10: It's it's the weeks are longer when I do it,

1061
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 10: like yeah, right, And it's not. The consistency is not there.

1062
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: He's still working on his eating schedule, more importantly, his

1063
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: sleep schedule.

1064
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: It's a challenge for him. We'll see. Yeah, we're gonna

1065
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 3: milk every every second. Oh yeah, I'm on these Sundays.

1066
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 10: You'll still get a few weeks you drive, yes, just

1067
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 10: watch and I will miss being here during the action

1068
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 10: and especially college football Saturdays where we have what thirty

1069
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 10: forty forty five games going on, yes, you know during

1070
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 10: the day, and then NFL Sundays are just a blast.

1071
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 10: We're playing so many highlights and you guys are reacting

1072
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 10: in real time, and I get to see Rich in person,

1073
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 10: and it's just.

1074
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, when you talk about Saturdays, there's

1075
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: really two games on Iowa and Iowa State. I mean

1076
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: those well, those are the only two games I see

1077
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: Sam watching.

1078
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: We have plenty where they have their rivalry game.

1079
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, well I don't know if anybody will actually

1080
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 10: suit for that rivalry game. Based on all the gambling

1081
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 10: scandal that's been sweeping through the state.

1082
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: There will be more eyeballs on those schools this year

1083
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: than ever before. They've become very notorious. All Right, I

1084
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: want to get to a team again. Preseason outcomes are meaningless.

1085
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: The one I.

1086
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Believe the Owen sixteen Lions team back in the day

1087
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: had an undefeated preseason, So whatever happens record wise in

1088
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: the preseason has zero bearing on the regular season.

1089
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: Let me preface by.

1090
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: Saying that, however, for certain teams, especially teams coming off

1091
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: bad seasons, the preseason is an opportunity for maybe a

1092
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: little attitude adjustment right, there's sort of like a reset.

1093
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: All right.

1094
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: We erased last year, let's maybe get a little more

1095
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 2: out of the preseason, maybe an outcome, you know, walk

1096
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: off the field a winner instead of a loser, just

1097
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: to reminder ourselves of what it's all about. Which brings

1098
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: me to the Los Angeles Rams, two years ago, super

1099
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: Bowl champions. Last year they were five and twelve. Here

1100
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: were the scores of their three preseason games.

1101
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: This year.

1102
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: They lost to the Chargers thirty four to seventeen. They

1103
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: followed that up with a loss to the Raiders thirty

1104
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: four to seventeen, and they wrapped it up yesterday against

1105
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: the Broncos, losing forty one to nothing. Sean McVeigh called

1106
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: it a humbling night. Not a lot of coaches talk

1107
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: about humbling Knights in a game that means nothing in

1108
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: terms of record. But this team is lost right now now.

1109
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Granted they're not playing their frontline players. And we talked earlier,

1110
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: in fact, a little bit later on the show last week,

1111
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Rich we got into some of our predictions on over

1112
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: underwins for teams in the Eastern and Western Conferences. We're

1113
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: going to take a look at some of the North

1114
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: and South teams today. But I mean, am I right

1115
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: about this With the Rams? I mean they look forty

1116
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: one and nothing.

1117
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: I don't care. Hang on, hey, if it's in the

1118
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: parking lot.

1119
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, and by the way, you know

1120
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: their young quarterback out of Georgia Stetson Bennett. I think

1121
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: it was four or fourteen or something like that, two interceptions,

1122
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: fourteen yards.

1123
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: It was bad.

1124
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I pump the brakes, pumped the break because

1125
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: you told me all last year, yes, you all last year.

1126
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: It's an aberration. The Rams will be back.

1127
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: Well, well, this is what I said, is I have

1128
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: faith that when you have Hall of famers in wait,

1129
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford may be, and Aaron Donald definitely is,

1130
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: and Cooper cup certainly if he comes back from this

1131
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: injury and he becomes anything resembling what he was when

1132
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: he left, the Rams are going to be very good

1133
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: at receiver. They're going to be very good upfront on

1134
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: the defense, as they always are, and they've got a

1135
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who can run this offense and make every throw.

1136
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: They're going to struggle if they have any and I

1137
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: mean any injuries. No depth, they have zero depth. But

1138
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of your buddy, someone you and

1139
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: your family have gotten close to. Tyler Higby.

1140
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the great tight end Tyler Higbee.

1141
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a budding star at that position. I

1142
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: really do.

1143
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: I think he's a guy, he's not just a young player.

1144
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that.

1145
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: He was reminded me.

1146
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: I told you we had dinner with him and Eric Dickerson,

1147
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: and he said, and Eric's like, so, what is this

1148
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: like your four or five?

1149
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: He goes, actually, it's my eighth year.

1150
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's lies. It's interesting when

1151
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: but honestly, he's been a guy who's kind of been

1152
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: slowly roiling in the background, and.

1153
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: His most productive season.

1154
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind. He's he's coming into his own as

1155
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: an NFL player. And sometimes look at Gino Smith. I

1156
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: mean Gino Smith similar story. You're eight and all of

1157
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: a sudden he signs a giant contract with the Seahawks

1158
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: to be their starting quarterback.

1159
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 11: For him.

1160
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: Sean McVay lost it.

1161
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: Well, No, I think when I say you're you need

1162
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: a pump the brakes, what I mean is if we

1163
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: can say that preseason is not a determinable measure to

1164
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: look at and have any sort of prediction on what

1165
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: the regular season is going to look like for the players.

1166
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: Then you have to say the same thing about the

1167
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: coaches and including what they say. Because Sean mcvagh to

1168
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: me handled that press conference and I saw a little

1169
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: bit of it with the same level of weight and

1170
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: heft that he would a regular season press press conference

1171
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: because he's practicing too. Look, the Rams may be in

1172
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: for a long season or maybe they'll surprise some people.

1173
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's not like every single team you

1174
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: look at in the NFC West or world beaters Seattle

1175
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: based on the insanely good play of their quarterback last year,

1176
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: they they found a way to to become something Otherwise

1177
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: that would have been a dreadful season for them. By

1178
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: the way, they're banged up heading into this season, Arizona

1179
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: looks like the worst team on paper in the NFL

1180
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: heading into this year, so they're really only competing with

1181
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in their division to start the year.

1182
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: Seattle could get healthy, et cetera, et cetera. But you

1183
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: follow me, like, the Rams may not be in that

1184
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: all of that of bad shape unless they get bit

1185
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: by the injury bug again. And with Sean McVay. You

1186
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: have to take these games seriously. But it's not weighing

1187
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: on him. I promise you. He lost no sleep after

1188
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: that game.

1189
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: He was the one that said it was a humbling night,

1190
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: all right, So.

1191
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: Let me say whatever you want. It doesn't mean that's

1192
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: what he's feeling. It's it's the preseason. Steve.

1193
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, this is why I said it. It

1194
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: is the preseason.

1195
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: It means nothing, but I this team needs an attitude adjustment.

1196
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: May again again during the police.

1197
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: The radio animals, Hang on, hang on? Are you gonna

1198
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: get the the attitude adjustment you need when you are

1199
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: literally playing the majority of the players who saw the

1200
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: field yesterday are not going to be on the run.

1201
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: I understand, But I go back, and I mentioned this

1202
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: a couple of times last year. Maurice Jones drew UCLA legend. Yes,

1203
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: and he's the radio analyst for the Rams. I guess

1204
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: I was tuning in one of their broadcasts another Rams

1205
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: ugly loss last year. This is probably week twelve or thirteen,

1206
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: and he just shocked me because obviously he'd seen every

1207
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: second of every game, and he said, I have yet

1208
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: to see an inspired RAM team this season. Like once

1209
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this team once showed up with any inspiration.

1210
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a harsh comment from a guy that

1211
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: played the game, who had seen every game. And again,

1212
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: I get back to the whole Sean McGee. Remember everyone

1213
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: was talking about a lot of people were talking retirement

1214
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: after that championship, right, Aaron Donna was talking retirement. Sean

1215
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: McVay was flirting with the idea maybe bolting into on

1216
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: broadcast job and everything else. And you know how this works, Rich,

1217
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: If suddenly that idea that you're retiring creeps into your head,

1218
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: it's tough to get it back. And I will see.

1219
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: I have one final question on this ramp thing for you. Yeah,

1220
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: the over Runner six.

1221
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: And a half.

1222
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that a lot of people they tune in

1223
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: obviously to count down to kickoff to hear your picks.

1224
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: They are people that are betting their life savings based

1225
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: on some of your selections.

1226
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: Which I would highly recommend. That's a good decision.

1227
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: You guys been talking future picks, future picks. We're gonna

1228
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: have more future picks on the show coming up next hour.

1229
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: But are you still leaning over six and.

1230
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: A half again?

1231
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: A seven and ten season seven and ten for a

1232
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: team with Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald seemingly healthy.

1233
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: Right now, Are you still leaning over six and a

1234
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: half for the Rams this season?

1235
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at this team as being better than advertised. Now, again,

1236
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: this assuming that they can stay healthy. And it's a

1237
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: rough assumption based on the fact that the three names

1238
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: that you know and you talk about the most when

1239
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: you talk about this roster, all three of them got

1240
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: hurt last season. But Aaron Donald's saying all the right things.

1241
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: When he was asked all the way back in the

1242
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: spring whether or not he considered retiring this offseason, he said,

1243
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: honestly not, he goes it never really crossed his mind

1244
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: in the least bit this offseason. Like this sounds like

1245
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: a guy who's ready to play a full season of football,

1246
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: who's ready to add to his legacy. The letter that

1247
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: went out two Rams season ticket owners from less Need,

1248
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: the general manager of the Rams, said that they are

1249
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: still aiming to be a playoff team this year. Now,

1250
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't go all in like they did in

1251
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: several other years, and they made some moves that wouldn't

1252
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: encourage the fan base to feel great about the prospects

1253
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: of a quick reload. But you still have stars both

1254
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: on the defense and the offense of this roster, and

1255
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: you have a very talented head coach, again assuming health,

1256
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: and that's assuming a lot in the NFL. I think

1257
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: they can beat an eleven loss record, because that's what

1258
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. If the Rams lose ten games,

1259
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: you win that bat. Yes, so, yeah, it's crazy, it

1260
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: is I'm taking the over.

1261
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still lean that way.

1262
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: But man, the preseason woof that was it's forty one

1263
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: nothing to the Broncos.

1264
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: Wow, stop reading too deeply.

1265
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: Preseason well, Sean Payton obviously wanted to prove something by

1266
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: putting a big number up there.

1267
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: Who do you trust? Who do you trust more this season?

1268
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: Who do you trust more this season? Right now? The

1269
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos are the Rams.

1270
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: That is a good question.

1271
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: I'll get to that on the other side, but I

1272
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: have to think about that for a second. I really do,

1273
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: all right, but first let's find out what is trendy

1274
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: right now? Can you ever imagine Manzi like retirement?

1275
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean that's so hard Manzi absolutely

1276
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 3: not well obviously not now, but.

1277
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it is a tiny robot said

1278
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: from outer space.

1279
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is on.

1280
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: The radio twenty four hours.

1281
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: It's retirement in your family.

1282
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 7: No, my dad is my dad retired and still works.

1283
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's like, I can't you have to do something?

1284
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

1285
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 3: It is people retire from jobs.

1286
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 2: And then my mom she retired from teaching, but she

1287
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: volunteered and doing a lot of She was I think

1288
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: busier even in so called retirement.

1289
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: By the way, I've heard that before, like from from

1290
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 1: other people and like you know, like your family members

1291
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: sitting around the dinner table, it's like, yeah, I retired,

1292
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: but I still work. I just can't stay home exactly. Well,

1293
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: what the crazy thing is is when somebody says that,

1294
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: it like what they're saying is with you people.

1295
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: I always love when I hear guys they say, well

1296
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: I want to I want to spend more time with

1297
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 2: my family.

1298
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 7: That's not gonna last exactly.

1299
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean, after one day, you're like, Okay, that's enough time.

1300
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 7: I got to get out of the you know, but

1301
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Speaker 7: some families like each other.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to go back to Sam Hartman because I

1303
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,480
Speaker 8: got you all the details. Okay, So he had Pagette

1304
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 8: Schroeder syndrome. So part of his treatment was to undergo

1305
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 8: the procedure to get rid of blood cloths, which was

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,480
Speaker 8: removing the rib closest to the collarbone.

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01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 7: To prevent any further blood clotting. That's why it had

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Speaker 7: to be removed.

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 2: And it's one thing to remove a rib, it's another

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01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: to wear the rib.

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Speaker 8: Right, So then he sent it to his mother, and

1312
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 8: his mother had to put it in the freezer.

1313
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 7: Why so she could remove the flesh.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, okay, I can officially say that Sam Hartman

1315
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: and his family have no relationship.

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: Side of the Hartman is going to win every game this.

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 8: Season because that's what mom does, that is she.

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 7: And it had to go in the freezer in order

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Speaker 7: to be able to remove.

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Speaker 2: The flesh rich in all this food process. So you

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: had a human rib and you had to remove the flesh.

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 2: How exactly would you go about that?

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I would use a boning knife.

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01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even really want to answer this quest.

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 10: Kid, do you put it in a deep boiled Come on, guys,

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01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 10: handim elector online too?

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Speaker 3: Thank you a little? K? Well with that?

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01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, let's move on to baseball, because you cannot tell

1329
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 8: me it is not romantic.

1330
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 7: The Nationals and the Marlins are playing, and there's.

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01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 8: A video on social media of National second basement. Vargas

1332
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 8: he either about to switch in means or like you know,

1333
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 8: switch and he leaves a little bowl of bubble gum

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 8: on the floor for second basement.

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 7: So Lise goes onto the field. He fields a ball.

1336
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 7: They're about to start another inning, and he grabs a gum,

1337
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 7: puts it.

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Speaker 1: In his pocket.

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 7: Tell me baseball is not romantic, because it is. Marlins

1340
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 7: are beating the National.

1341
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: Some stories today.

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 7: I'm gonna start the fifth inning. Padres and Birs tied

1343
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 7: at Winnipece. Top of the second inning. Rangers have scored

1344
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 7: first against the Twins. It's one zero.

1345
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 8: They're about to start the third inning. Yankees and Rays

1346
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 8: were tied not anymore. Anthony Volpi puts New York on

1347
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 8: top with the.

1348
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: Two run homer.

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 7: It's four too.

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Speaker 8: They're about to start the bottom of the fourth inning,

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 8: Astros blanking the Tigers two zero. The Guardians have taken

1352
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 8: the lead over the Blue Jays. They were tied not anymore,

1353
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 8: four to two. Bottom of the fourth inning, and James

1354
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 8: Outman has hit a solo shot, putting the Dodgers on

1355
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 8: the scoreboard first against the Red Sox.

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 7: It's one zero, top of the fourth inning. Back to you, guys.

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: Good thing of getting these stories out of the way now,

1358
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: because you know in two weeks you're going to be

1359
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: doing scores, scores, scores that score.

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Speaker 8: We'll be able to tell you about a rib or

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 8: how romantic baseball is exactly.

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01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: All right, Manzi, we'll check it with you a little

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01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: bit later on with more of these great stories here.

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Speaker 3: All right.

1370
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side are one non football story,

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: one non football story of the day.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Harberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: live from the Tyraq dot com studios. Coming up in

1375
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:26,919
Speaker 2: the next hour, we're going to dive into the northern

1376
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: divisions of the NFC and the AFC as far as

1377
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: over under wins and of course, since Rich now is

1378
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: very much a part of the gambling community, and by

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01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: the way, very quick note here, Rich, you tend to

1380
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: lean unders as opposed to overs well and by the way,

1381
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: and that's on point totals as well, and I've heard

1382
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: crack by the way.

1383
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 3: Similarly, everyone likes the.

1384
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: Betovers, everyone likes the bed over.

1385
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 3: They all betovers.

1386
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: You know, more is better, and the smart gambler sees

1387
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: some golden opportunities with unders.

1388
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, full disclosure, the two unders that I

1389
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: had on my list for week zero did not hit

1390
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: USC San Jose State. That was a line set at

1391
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: sixty six and a hook took the under there that

1392
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: went well over. And then the first half I took

1393
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: the under for Hawaii visiting all the way out in

1394
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee to face Vandy. The first half point total was

1395
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half. I figured it was going

1396
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: to be a slow start for the Rainbows and then

1397
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: also the lightning delay, like there was everything was looking

1398
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: up Ornberger and then they actually took the field and

1399
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: cumulatively scored thirty five points in the first half.

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, here's the one thing bet under on every

1401
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: Sandy State football game this year?

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 3: Can we do that?

1403
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: I think that's saying, all right, I want to get

1404
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: to this one non football story, because obviously it was

1405
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: a huge story the shutdown of sho hey Otani with

1406
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: this arm injury. And it's hard to gauge exactly because

1407
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: I was talking to Carry Rose about this.

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 3: What is it you, r L? Is that what the

1409
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 3: injury is?

1410
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:18,440
Speaker 1: UCL?

1411
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: UCL?

1412
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about the elbow ligament.

1413
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Yet right now again he's hitting, in fact, can hit

1414
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: another home run. So I'm trying to figure this out

1415
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: because I was I was under the impression that Bryce

1416
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: Harper had this injury and he had to set out

1417
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: several months. So I'm still trying to figure out the

1418
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: seriousness of the injury. And obviously the big question is now,

1419
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,839
Speaker 2: how does this affect free agency for show a o Twani.

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01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that he doesn't want to just

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: shut it down anyway. From a pitching standpoint, you know,

1422
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: if you start to feel a little discomfort in your

1423
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: arm and your team's going nowhere and the Angels are

1424
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: not going to somehow backdoor into a wildcard spot in

1425
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: the American League, why go there? I mean, are we

1426
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: looking at all this hundreds of millions of dollars out

1427
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 2: the window because of this injury? How do you think

1428
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 2: this is going to play out.

1429
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's very possible that with this injury,

1430
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: he's lost potentially hundreds of millions of dollars that he

1431
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: could have earned, because there's going to be teams out

1432
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: there who are going to take pause before considering paying

1433
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: that level of contract to a player, even a player

1434
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: of his stature and caliber at the plate, because what

1435
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: you were essentially paying for before this injury was a

1436
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 1: great hitter and a great pitcher and a healthy player.

1437
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: And now, especially considering the nature of elbow injuries, especially

1438
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: associated with the UCLU, and that is the Tommy John

1439
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: Ligaman in the elbow, you have to take a deep

1440
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: breath and decide whether or not you want to commit

1441
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: six or seven hundred million dollars in contract value to

1442
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,839
Speaker 1: a single player, because think of it this way, like, Okay,

1443
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: so even if he's the most expensive hitter who's ever

1444
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: been signed by a baseball team, you know, say whatever,

1445
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: he ends up signing a five hundred million dollar contract

1446
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: or a four hundred and fifty fifty ten years something, yeah,

1447
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. Well, if you compare it to

1448
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: some of the valuations that we were seeing for sho

1449
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: Heyo Tani, prior to the elbow injury, like seven hundred

1450
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars. What you could do with that

1451
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: that two hundred and fifty million dollars you didn't spend

1452
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: is go out and potentially spend that money on an

1453
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: ace or maybe even two aaces like it's it's so.

1454
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: I look, the finances of sports get really tricky when

1455
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: you talk about injury situations, and so I I know

1456
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: the entire baseball media collectively were apoplectic when he hurt

1457
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: his elbow and talking about some of the limitations he's

1458
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: going to have for the remainder of the season and

1459
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: what this is going to mean about his future. I

1460
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: think he'll probably still return to pitching even if he

1461
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: does have a second Tommy John surgery. I think that's

1462
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: one of the things that was most important to show

1463
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: Heyotani when he came to the United States to play professionally,

1464
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: was he doesn't want to just be a hitter. He

1465
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: doesn't want to just be a pitcher. He doesn't want

1466
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: to specialize in either. He wants to do both. So

1467
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: whether that means he's going to be a bullpen arm

1468
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: of some sort or if he's going to be a

1469
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: starting pitcher. Again, I think whoever signs this contract may

1470
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: actually get him for more of a value because I

1471
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: don't think his pitching days are over.

1472
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Palmerosil Jonas in our final hour today will

1473
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 2: get an update there. But I look at it this way,

1474
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: and this is even before this latest injury. If you're

1475
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: gonna pay for Showan in terms of his value to

1476
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: you as a pitcher, you're looking for him to pitch

1477
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: in the postseason, yes, and so he can't be I mean,

1478
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: if you look at these last three years, he had

1479
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty eight, and twenty three starts this year, right,

1480
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: he is a twenty to twenty five game starter, not thirty.

1481
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: Especially if you go deep in the playoffs Rich you're

1482
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: looking at your top pitchers six or seven starts. So

1483
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: my point with Otani is, honestly, I am spots starting you.

1484
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 3: I don't see how it's practical to be a reliever.

1485
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even go that route, but I do think

1486
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: if you have like twenty stars just to sort of

1487
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: keep him in the mix, with the idea being we

1488
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: want you fully going and healthy once we get to

1489
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: the postseason, because that's why we need you, because pitching

1490
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: wins postseason runs. We see year after year after year

1491
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: the teams that have the hot pitchers suddenly come away

1492
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: with World Series championships. So again, it's gonna be very interesting.

1493
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 2: It really only comes down to a couple teams, you know,

1494
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: suddenly get hot for the idea of getting Otani and

1495
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: the roster that could drive the number up, or or

1496
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: maybe the Angels are still in the mix. I have

1497
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: a hard read on Shohatani. But again, John Palmerrossio wo

1498
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: give us an update on a final hour coming up.

1499
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: On the other side, though, over underwins, we're gonna get

1500
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: focused on the northern divisions of the NFL. Some ugly numbers,

1501
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: by the way, keep it here. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1502
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: continuing our march to Sundays. That'll be frantic talking about

1503
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 2: the start of the regular season in the NFL two

1504
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: weeks from today. Technically, of course, we get the Thursday

1505
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 2: match up between the Chiefs and the Lions. That's still

1506
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: eleven days away. Folks, You're you're in for it because

1507
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 2: next week there is no NFL football, but we have

1508
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: a lot of college football. A reminder, we're broadcasting live

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Speaker 3: So last week, Rich we dove.

1515
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: Into these over underwins for teams in the NFC East,

1516
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: AFC East, NFC West, and the AFC West. So today

1517
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,520
Speaker 2: we're going to be focused in on the other divisions

1518
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: around the National Football League because these future bets are huge, right,

1519
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean you do, by the way, I listened to

1520
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 2: you yesterday and so you guys are doing something interesting here.

1521
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 2: So on the countdown to kickoff show, you had something

1522
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: about one hundred dollars you're betting or five hundred dollars right,

1523
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: mythical money of fictitious money, right, and he had to

1524
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: make five picks. I heard crack immediately.

1525
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 3: Who is with you?

1526
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: It was me? It was Brian Now and Jared Smith.

1527
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: Right, so I believe it was Jared.

1528
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: He came in with the idea, well do I have

1529
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 2: to can I do four picks for the five hundred

1530
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: or something along those lines.

1531
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: What were your five picks?

1532
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: By the way, By the way, everyone assumed you were

1533
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: only going to talk college football, and then you interjected

1534
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: some NFL football. Well yeah, originally, like the rules are

1535
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: being made up as you went.

1536
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure originally everybody was thinking, since we're

1537
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: counting down to by the.

1538
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: Way, this is something you and I did constantly. Oh yeah,

1539
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: where we are changing rules as we went to favor

1540
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: one of us, you know, yeah.

1541
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not quite as you used to this

1542
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: as I am, so so I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no,

1543
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 1: this is how we're going to do it. So anyway,

1544
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: So the way it works is, yeah, you take five

1545
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: hundred fictitious dollars that you have to evenly spread over

1546
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: five futures picks prior to the kickoff of the college

1547
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: football and NFL s. Right, and then what is kind

1548
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: of cool about this segment is we're gonna check back

1549
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: in on it throughout the year and give each other

1550
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: opportunities for buyouts, just like sportsbook. Do you know if

1551
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: you have a big time parlay going sometimes a sportsbook

1552
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: based on how much money you're gonna win. If the

1553
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: parlay hits, we'll say, hey, you can cash out now

1554
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: for this amount, because if you miss on the next game,

1555
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: the parlay goes away. But if you hit, you know,

1556
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: the final two legs of the parlay, you win a

1557
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: million dollars. So we're gonna allow you to cash out

1558
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: right now for half a million bucks or three hundred

1559
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: thousand dollars.

1560
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know you could do that.

1561
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's certainly yep, yep, yep, yep.

1562
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 3: Wow.

1563
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: So this is kind of like that, right, you have

1564
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: a five leg futures bet parlay going not really a

1565
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: parlay because we're gonna look at the fictitious bankroll at

1566
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: the end of the season and to see you as

1567
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: the best. Now, I thought, because me, you know, I'm

1568
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: thinking you want to make this interesting. I thought we

1569
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: were all going to go for a couple of long shots,

1570
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, at least a couple long shots. I was

1571
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: sorely mistaken. Yeah, my, my, my co hosts did not

1572
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: join me in the deep end of the pool. They

1573
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: played it very safe. They did mostly win totals overs

1574
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: under stuff like that. So what what my five were

1575
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: was Alabama to win the national title at plus six hundred.

1576
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, they haven't even announced their starting

1577
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: quarterback yet.

1578
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Right, But this is this is again, Look, there is

1579
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: there value in picking the bullet.

1580
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 3: I understand what the number. Yeah yeah, but.

1581
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a little bit of a longer odd

1582
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: shot Alabama. All right, all right, my longest odd shot

1583
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis to win the Heisman.

1584
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: That is that is long, that is long plus twelve

1585
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: vends for a quarterback to win the Heisman.

1586
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 3: The team really asked to be a role.

1587
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Florida State could win the AC I mean

1588
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: they obviously they'd have to win the a SEC Championship.

1589
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: Cut there's no question about it. Chiefs to win the

1590
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl plus six hundred.

1591
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: Okay, that seems like not really going out on a limb.

1592
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: That's not out on a limb. But look, you know,

1593
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's a plus money.

1594
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: By the way, I do have something to say about

1595
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: the Chiefs later. So all right, so you have the Chiefs.

1596
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay, And then I just went to you know, NFL

1597
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: win totals, Patriots over the six and a half win totals.

1598
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 3: Say that every year about the Patriots.

1599
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: I know, and honestly, and usually it hits Jets over

1600
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: there nine and a half win total.

1601
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: We talked about that one. Yeah, I agree with you

1602
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: on the Jets, that just seems like a low number.

1603
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they can't win ten games with Aaron Rodgers.

1604
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's exactly That's exactly how I'm looking

1605
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: at it. It. Okay, So you're telling me, if you're

1606
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: going to take the Patriots and the under on their

1607
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: win total, your prediction on the year is Bill Belichick's

1608
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna lose eleven games this year. So I just have

1609
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: a hard time stomaching that, in fact, so much so

1610
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: that it compels me to take over. And same thing

1611
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: with the Jets. You look at this roster in New York,

1612
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean defensively and offensively, and you see what they

1613
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: did with the quarterbacks they had last year with Flacco

1614
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson and Mike White. You add an Aaron

1615
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers to that picture, and you have some of those

1616
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: players who are injured last year back and healthy this season. No,

1617
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm they're gonna win ten games at least.

1618
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: All right, Well, it's hard to predict year to year.

1619
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Last year, I'm gonna start, as we do our over

1620
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: unders and our predictions for each of these divisions in

1621
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: the NFL. We turned out to the NFC North, and

1622
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: when you look at last season. It is one of

1623
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,839
Speaker 2: the most bizarre seasons, not just for that division, any division.

1624
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 3: Let's think about it. Let's start at the top.

1625
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: The Vikings were thirteen and four and they actually gave

1626
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: up three more points than they scored last year.

1627
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Now, how is it even possible?

1628
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 2: How do you win thirteen games and actually give up

1629
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: more points than you score over the course of his season. Well,

1630
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: here's how you do it. They were eleven to zero

1631
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: in one score games. They didn't lose a single once

1632
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: game the entire year. That means they only won two

1633
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: games by more than one score. However, all four of

1634
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: their losses, I mean, some of them were really ugly,

1635
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: but all of this obviously, all four of their losses

1636
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: were by at least more than one score.

1637
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1638
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: So last year the Vikings were thirteen and four. They're

1639
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: over underwins. Consensus in Vegas is eight and a half.

1640
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 2: That's a mighty drop from thirteen and four. Rich, So

1641
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: let's start with the Vikings. Kirk Cousins is back, Davin

1642
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: Cook is not. So I guess the real read offensively

1643
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: for the Vikings is can they go running back by

1644
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: committee and get anywhere near the production they got out

1645
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 2: of one of the best running backs in the league

1646
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: ever since he entered this league, Dalvin Cook. And can

1647
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 2: kirk Cousins come back and build on what he did

1648
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: a year ago? Because one thing you have to say

1649
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: about kirk Cousins. We always talk about, Hey, how did

1650
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 2: your quarterback do in one score games when they were close?

1651
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1652
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: And this guy was eleven to zero, losing only, of

1653
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: course eventually in that playoff game to the Giants. So

1654
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 2: where are you leaning right now over under eight and

1655
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: a half wins for the Vikings.

1656
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: Look, you gotta win football games, right, you have to

1657
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: win them, and the majority of football games are close.

1658
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: So this stat to me, and I understand its record breaking,

1659
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: and I understand that a lot of people don't think

1660
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: they were as good as a thirteen and four team

1661
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: should normally look, But screw that. Honestly, I just don't

1662
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: take much stock in that you win close games in

1663
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. That is literally how jobs are won or

1664
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,919
Speaker 1: lost at the head coaching position at the quarterback position.

1665
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: I mean, because those are two positions obviously where wins

1666
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and losses are and the weight of that are tied

1667
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: to regardless of losing, Dallas or excuse me, Dallas Clark.

1668
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: Regardless of losing Dalvin Cook. When you lose a player

1669
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: of that caliber, it's going to have an impact. But

1670
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be an impact that

1671
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: leads them to, like, i mean, completely dropping off the map.

1672
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about going from thirteen wins to eight for

1673
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: the under to hit. I'm taking the over here, and

1674
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm not even flinching, Like this is one of the

1675
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: easier overs to take in my opinion.

1676
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.

1677
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: It just it just seems like you're short changing their

1678
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: ability to win close games.

1679
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: They won a game they were trailing thirty three nothing

1680
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: at halftime.

1681
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: Biggest comeback in the league. How about that crazy Buffalo game.

1682
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know.

1683
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a lot of things going their way,

1684
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 2: but they won their close games. Yeah, somehow they were

1685
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 2: penalized or dismissed all season long.

1686
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Said, well, that doesn't.

1687
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Really count, course of counts. Those are those games. I'm

1688
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: with you on that one. All right, let's go to

1689
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: the bottom. The Bears were awful. They were three and

1690
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: fourteen as they were trying to get justin fields up

1691
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: to speed. Well, guess what, they're three and fourteen. Last year,

1692
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 2: they're over under is seven and a half. So obviously

1693
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Vegas believes the Bears are going to be much improved

1694
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: coming up here in twenty twenty three.

1695
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 3: Do you buy it?

1696
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: No, No, I'll take the under look. I'm just not

1697
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: a big believer in Justin Fields. Yet. What I saw

1698
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: last year was a guy who looked really uncomfortable throwing

1699
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: the football. And unless that changes in a huge hurry

1700
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: and in one offseason, which okay, again, and we've seen this,

1701
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible. We've seen it where Josh

1702
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: Allen looked like he was really uncomfortable throwing the football,

1703
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,520
Speaker 1: not quite as uncomfortable as Justin Fields, but was struggling

1704
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: his year, and then he came out in year two

1705
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: and improved, and came out in year three and improved,

1706
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: and that sort of steady improvement and having the ability

1707
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: to overcome some of the you know, obstacles that you

1708
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: come to the NFL with when you're a player out

1709
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: of Wyoming, you know, against the competition level that you're

1710
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: playing at the college football level. But that's not the

1711
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: same for Justin Fields. Justin Fields was was spoiled with

1712
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: talent at the collegiate level. Justin Field's played in huge

1713
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: games at the collegiate level, and he came to the NFL,

1714
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: and I think this is going to look more like

1715
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: a Tim Tebow than it will Josh Allen story. I

1716
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: think he is one of the most electric athletes in

1717
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: the NFL when he has the ball in his hands,

1718
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: but when he throws the football, I collected, I feel

1719
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: like Chicago fans collectively hold their breath because you don't

1720
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen next. So yeah, I'll take

1721
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Vonder on this win total.

1722
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 3: All right, I'm with you on that. That just seems

1723
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 3: like a mighty Again.

1724
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: You talked about the Vikings going from thirteen to eight,

1725
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 2: the Bears going from three to seven. Plus's too much

1726
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 2: of one season, all right. On the other side, we're

1727
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 2: going to get to the other two teams in the

1728
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Speaker 2: Should be so rich. If you had said before last

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01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: season began that the Lions would finish ahead of the

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01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 2: Packers in the standings of the NFC North, you would

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01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: have said what.

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Speaker 1: I would have said, There's little to no chance that happens.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you have Aaron Rodgers coming out back

1752
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 2: to back MVP seasons.

1753
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 3: You have the Lions, who are the Lions.

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01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though we thought, all right, they made some

1755
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: progress from the previous year.

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Speaker 1: But I mean mainly it comes down to, you know,

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01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback competition, the Packers defense. Yeah, like there's there's

1758
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: more faith that the in the Packers at that point

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01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: than the Lion. Yes.

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Speaker 2: So, as a turnout, the deciding game was the last

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01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: game of the regular season, the Packers still had a

1762
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs. The Lions have been eliminated

1763
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 2: that day, and they dominated that game. That was a

1764
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: Lions domination to send Aaron Rodgers out of Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: So now we have predictably a different thought process as

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01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: we go into twenty twenty three for both of these teams.

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Speaker 2: The Lions are the favorite to win the NFC North

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01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: this year. They're over under is nine and a half wins. Meanwhile,

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01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: the Packers with Jordan Love in his first year as

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01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback seven and a half wins for the Packers.

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01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Let's start with Green Bay right now, because I've heard

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01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: some of your co hosts trumpet the fact that the

1773
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: Packers may be better than a lot of people think.

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01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Love has been in the system for a couple

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01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: of years. It's not like he's a rookie. He's not

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01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 2: a rookie, so he's gotten reps. He knows what this

1777
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: offense is all about you. Obviously, he saw plenty of

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01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: them at the collegiate level seven and a half wins.

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01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 2: Where do you stand with the Packers in twenty twenty three, Yeah, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Take the under here. I think it's difficult in the

1781
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: NFL to break in a new quarterback, especially when that

1782
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: quarterback is replacing a superstar to the level of Aaron Rodgers.

1783
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,959
Speaker 1: And this is in a situation where it's New England

1784
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: and there is, you know, an insanely intact culture in place.

1785
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: And even though when Tom Brady left it was that

1786
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: pandemic gap year where Cam Newton came in, it was

1787
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of Brian Hoyer. They rebounded well with

1788
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Mac Jones his rookie season. Love's not a rookie, but

1789
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: he's replacing a great He's replacing a first ballot Hall

1790
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: of Famer. I think the Packers are going to struggle.

1791
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: I think defensively, they're probably one of the best teams

1792
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: in their division still and and in fact, that's not

1793
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 1: something we discussed with the Vikings, who I think regressed

1794
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: a lot on defense with some of the players they

1795
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: they lost in free agency. But but yeah, I'm feeling

1796
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: the under here. I'm not sold that Jordan Love in

1797
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: year one is going to be the elixir that Green

1798
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 1: Bay needs to vault them into, you know, their next

1799
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,919
Speaker 1: window of winning like they had after farv Aaron Rodgers

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01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 1: took over. I don't. I'm not as certain of Jordan Love.

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01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: I was with you on the Vikings, I was with

1802
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,799
Speaker 2: you on the Bears. I'm not with you on the Packers. Okay,

1803
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 2: I you mentioned the Packers defense. Yes, that's a big

1804
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: part of it. I mean, if you're solid defensively, and

1805
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 2: I think they're above average defensively in this league, that's

1806
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: a great starting point, especially if you again some create

1807
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: some short field situations for your new quarterback. I just

1808
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 2: have the sneaking suspicion because overall this is just not

1809
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: a great division. I think the Packers could get eight wins.

1810
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 2: I think they could get to nine wins. I think

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01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 2: that Jordan Love is going to be one of those guys,

1812
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 2: because again, there's something to be said about learning at.

1813
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 3: The feet of the master.

1814
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: In other words, when you watch, for instance, Hard Knocks

1815
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: right now, and you watch Aaron Rodgers and his interaction

1816
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: with Zach Wilson, I gotta believe he was to some

1817
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 2: degree doing that with Jordan Love. Maybe not to the

1818
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: extent of having the cameras on you, but at some point,

1819
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 2: even if he wasn't hands on with Jordan Love, there

1820
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Speaker 2: are meetings together. He watched from the sidelines. He knows

1821
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: what made Aaron Rodgers great, and I'm gonna trust that

1822
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: some of that, obviously not all of it, some of

1823
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: that has rubbed off on Jordan Love.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna lean over with the Packers. It's gonna

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01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 3: be close.

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01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: It's not like they're gonna win ten games, but could

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Speaker 2: they win eight nine? I think they can, which leads us,

1828
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: of course, to the Detroit Lions. I remind everyone again,

1829
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: I've been around for a long time. Not only had

1830
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 2: the Lions never won an NFL championship in my lifetime,

1831
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 2: Iron Aglie, they won their last NFL championship the year

1832
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 2: before I was born, and if you're wondering, you can

1833
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 2: look it up. Their last championship was in nineteen fifty seven.

1834
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 2: Since that time, not only have they not won an

1835
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 2: NFL championship, they've won one playoff game. In sixty five years,

1836
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: they have won one playoff game. So the overrunner on

1837
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 2: the Lions is nine and a half. They were nine

1838
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: and eight a year ago. So if you're going over,

1839
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna say they're gonna be a tick above where

1840
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 2: they were last year. Now, remember this was a Lions

1841
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: team that struggled and then sort of caught fire late.

1842
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 2: We talked about the Packers and their above average defense.

1843
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: The Lions have an awful defense, yeah, even with Aiden

1844
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Hutchinson who is an emerging star. But offensively, they were

1845
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: a juggernaut last year and it figures they will be

1846
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: the same this year. I think we're all fans of

1847
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, but when you look at over under nine

1848
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: and a half before you make your pick, keep in

1849
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: mind we're talking about the Detroit Lions, you know, I mean,

1850
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: you know it sort of like down in San Diego

1851
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: with the Potteries. There's still a podrace. Yeah yeah, and

1852
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 2: the Lions can revert to form at any point.

1853
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 3: So I'm giving you a.

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01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: Little precursor here, Rich, which way are you leaning over

1855
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 2: under nine and a half for the twenty twenty three

1856
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it kills me to say this because, like you,

1858
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm a Dan Campbell fan.

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01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 3: YEP.

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01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: I like his tone, I like the culture building I

1861
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 1: love the the hard knocks where we got insight to

1862
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: how competitive those practices and how energetic those practices are

1863
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: at very least in the preseason. I'm sure that sustains

1864
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:20,839
Speaker 1: throughout the regular season as well. But the Lions feel

1865
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: the Lions feel like a nine win team to me.

1866
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: They they just I don't. I mean, they don't. I

1867
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: don't think they They they seem like a team that

1868
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: should have a winning record, but they're still right there.

1869
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 1: They're not They're not quite there. And like the NFC

1870
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: North without Aaron Rodgers and with this mixed bag of

1871
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and Justin Fields and Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins,

1872
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: it feels like one of those divisions like the NFC

1873
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: East sometimes has been over the past half decade, where

1874
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, we're like, well, nobody really wants to win

1875
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: that division, right, you know, before Jellen Hurts really got

1876
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: going and last year the Cowboys were up at thirteen wins.

1877
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: The year before that, it was like it was a

1878
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 1: dog It was a dog fight for the for nobody

1879
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: wanted to win that division. So I sort of feel

1880
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: like that's where we're heading with the NFC North. I'm

1881
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna take the under here, and I'm gonna hold my

1882
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: nose while I take it because I hate that I'm

1883
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 1: doing it, But it just the Lions feel like a

1884
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: nine win team.

1885
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,799
Speaker 2: Well, I'll put it this way, over the last sixty

1886
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 2: five years, if you bet the over on the Lions

1887
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: every year, you're on skid row. I mean, I mean,

1888
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 2: I don't think they're They're farewell with their over unders

1889
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: over the years. I'm with you, Rich And by the way,

1890
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 2: I do believe the Lions are built for the long term.

1891
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: I think Jared Goff may take a little step backwards.

1892
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he had some ridiculously good numbers last year

1893
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 2: and they still went nine and eight. Is he gonna

1894
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: get better numbers this year? I do believe, though, especially

1895
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 2: in this division, the Lion will be in the conversation. Yeah,

1896
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 2: but a lot of times you see teams have a

1897
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 2: breakout year like they did a year ago, followed by

1898
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: a hiccup before they get back on trick. It even

1899
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 2: happened to the Patriots after they won that first Super

1900
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 2: Bowl with Tom Brady.

1901
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 3: Next year they didn't even make the playoffs.

1902
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm just a little confused about some of the decisions

1903
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 1: that they made. With the roster this offseason. You know,

1904
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: I mean, your number one need, there's no question about it,

1905
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: is improving that defense, Like there's no question about it.

1906
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: And they have a first round draft pick and they

1907
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: go and they get Jamiir Gibbs, Like you know, it's

1908
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: like I get it. Yes, he's very talented and he

1909
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: had a great run at Alabama and you could do

1910
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 1: a lot of different things with him in such an

1911
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: explosive offense and your offensive coordinators returning. You didn't lose him,

1912
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: so there wasn't a brain drain there, And there's so

1913
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: many reasons why that could work out. But there's this

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01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: other side of it, which is, you know, you're only

1915
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: on the field with your offense for half the game,

1916
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: and you gave up a whole lot of points last year.

1917
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: And we'll see it during the opener if this defense

1918
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: has taken strides in the right direction, because they're gonna

1919
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: be tested early against the Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday

1920
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 1: night a week and a half from now, so we'll

1921
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: see what it looks like. But I wasn't impressed with

1922
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: how much they invested in their defense, and that was

1923
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: a glaring problem last.

1924
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Year, all right, So from one of the weaker divisions.

1925
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna switch gears on the other side to one

1926
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 2: of the best divisions, that would be the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: So we've had.

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Speaker 8: Human flesh on ribs on ribs that needed to be

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Speaker 8: taken off in order.

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Speaker 7: To create Have you seen have you.

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Speaker 8: Looked at the necklace yet it's really it looks like

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Speaker 8: something you'd.

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1940
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 7: a little tooth and like two little or three pieces

1941
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 7: around it. It's really small, like if you just.

1942
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 2: Saw you But it again for people just tuning in

1943
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 2: the fact, here's what we didn't understand.

1944
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 3: So we were talking about this off air.

1945
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 2: So the rib was sent by Sam Hartman to his

1946
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 2: mother who had it in a freezer.

1947
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 7: Which was necessary.

1948
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 2: It would seem to me if I have human flesh

1949
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: on a rib and I put in a freezer, it

1950
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 2: will like petrify onto the bone.

1951
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 3: And yet somehow Mom was able to chip it all off.

1952
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 8: Maybe that's what it was, that it became so hard

1953
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,520
Speaker 8: and it was easier to just take it apart. Right,

1954
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 8: I can't believe we're having this conversation.

1955
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Right, and see that's that's a good that's a good guess.

1956
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, like that's what I would imagine, that it hardened

1957
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,879
Speaker 8: and it was easier to a scrape.

1958
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to take every opportunity to say the name

1959
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Hartman is many times.

1960
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1961
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 8: No, Now I'm gonna get you a rib necklace because

1962
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 8: not for my ribs.

1963
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, we'll find you some other ribs.

1964
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 3: I mean ribs. Rich has got some tasty I've had

1965
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 3: his ribs.

1966
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 7: You know, when I did eat meat, I didn't care

1967
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 7: for ribs.

1968
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 3: You never had Riches ribs.

1969
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 7: Maybe that's what it was.

1970
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 8: I just never got I was like, I don't I

1971
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 8: don't understand what the infatuation here is.

1972
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 1: No, now you know what, maybe you should. We'll give

1973
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 1: you a hall pass on the whole veganism thing.

1974
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 2: Over over over the course of the season. He's gonna

1975
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 2: take because Rich Rich doesn't throw ribs. I mean there's

1976
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 2: a process.

1977
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 7: I bet, yeah. Yeah.

1978
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 8: I also just a'm not a huge fan of barbecue,

1979
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 8: and I feel that ribs always were barbecue. What the heck?

1980
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 7: It's a very strong flavor.

1981
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 3: Vegans like barbecue, but.

1982
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: It's such a strong flavor like it over it's called flavor.

1983
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate this so much for everything that's happened.

1984
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: I hate it's really gun.

1985
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 10: Why didn't Mama Hartman just bake the Sam Hartman's rib

1986
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 10: not so the meat falls run off the bone.

1987
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Go on doing like you're doing a real rib.

1988
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 7: Okay, no, let's move on.

1989
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Take its rib.

1990
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 7: Talk to baseball, because again, Baseball, you can't tell me

1991
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,440
Speaker 7: it's not romantic.

1992
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 8: When Mookie Betts returns to Boston and hits a home

1993
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 8: run right over the Green Monster. So the Dodgers are

1994
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 8: beating the Red Sox five to two, bottom of.

1995
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 7: The seventh inning.

1996
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 8: The Orioles, who have won four in a row, are

1997
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 8: seven and three in the last ten games, are currently

1998
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 8: losing to the Rockies at home three to one, top of.

1999
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 7: The eighth inning.

2000
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 8: Philly still holding onto their lead over the Cardinals to

2001
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 8: zero top of the seventh inning. The Cubs all over

2002
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 8: the Pirates six to one. They're about to start the

2003
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 8: bottom of the seventh inning. The Guardians in the Blue Jays.

2004
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 8: This has been a fun one.

2005
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 7: It's been back and forth. Blue Jays back on top.

2006
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 8: David Schneider with a two run homer in the sixth inning.

2007
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 7: Snyder, I don't know why I like to say Schneider, Schneider.

2008
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 7: It's five to four, top of the seventh inning.

2009
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 8: Blue back on top, Astros blanking the Tigers three zero.

2010
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 7: It's about to be the bottom of the sixth inning.

2011
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 7: And you know the Yankees were on top, not anymore.

2012
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay has taken the lead. It's six to four.

2013
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 8: Bottom of the sixth inning. Marlins holding on to their

2014
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 8: lead over the Nationals.

2015
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 7: Two to one.

2016
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 8: Top of the eighth inning, White Sox and A's does

2017
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 8: anyone care sure? Three zero top of the six inning,

2018
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 8: Chicago on top. Padres extended their leader for the Brewers.

2019
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 8: It's four to two, even though the Brewers I think

2020
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 8: I won seventh in a row, so they're trying to

2021
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 8: make it eight.

2022
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 7: But the Padres are on top. Four to two. Bottom

2023
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 7: of the.

2024
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 8: Fifth inning, and Jonah Him not to be confused with

2025
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 8: Jonah Hill, because vote Benson almost confused me in the

2026
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 8: hall way.

2027
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 7: Hit a grand slam for the Rangers.

2028
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 8: They're blanking the Twins five zero, top of the six inning.

2029
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,839
Speaker 7: Now, some news coming out of MLS so Inner.

2030
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 8: Miami announced that star Leonette Messi will miss at least

2031
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 8: three games this season because of national team duties. Argentina

2032
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 8: plays Ecuador on September seventh and Bolivia on September twelfth

2033
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 8: for the World Cup qualifiers.

2034
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 7: Miami has games.

2035
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 8: One of them is here against LAFC on September third,

2036
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 8: Then they play Kansas City on September nineteenth, and they

2037
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 8: head to Atlanta for September sixteenth. They won't say which

2038
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 8: games he's gonna miss, but if you're dropping some heavy

2039
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:21,879
Speaker 8: cash to see Leonel Messi, he might not play.

2040
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't care how much they're paying him. He's underpaid

2041
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 2: for sure.

2042
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: No.

2043
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is literally not just saving his team,

2044
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 2: this is the whole league.

2045
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 7: Yes, no, I know, the coach said after last night's when.

2046
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 8: They're like, well, we're gonna have to like get used

2047
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,799
Speaker 8: to winning without him because he's he has.

2048
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,879
Speaker 7: National team duties.

2049
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 3: Seriously, every team in the league should give him a south.

2050
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 7: Every I know, right, every team should.

2051
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 3: He MLS.

2052
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, well basically they are given every team is

2053
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: giving him a salary. Technically, yeah, he has a certain

2054
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:05,480
Speaker 1: percentage of every new subscription to the MLS.

2055
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 2: T there we go, Ben, He's yeah, so whenever he's

2056
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: making he's underpaid.

2057
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 8: Underpaid, Yes, but he's gonna miss some games and they

2058
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 8: won't say which ones.

2059
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 3: Let's talk about a roll of the time. Well, I know,

2060
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 3: all right, thank you very much much. We'll talk to

2061
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 3: you a little bit later on.

2062
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's turn our attention now to the AFC

2063
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 2: North and based on these over unders rich, this is

2064
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 2: going to be one of the best divisions in all

2065
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 2: of football, and I think we all agree to that.

2066
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the Cleveland Browns. It was a

2067
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 2: bizarre year, to say the least, last year with a

2068
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 2: whole Deshaun Watson situation, of course, waiting for him to

2069
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 2: finally take the field.

2070
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: He did, he.

2071
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: Looked predictably rusty. They finished with a record of seven

2072
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: and ten. Vegas is a believer. They got the Browns

2073
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 2: at nine and a half wins. So the big question,

2074
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean to get to nine and half or ten

2075
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: wins if you're betting the over, especially in a division

2076
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 2: that includes the likes of the Bengals and the Ravens,

2077
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to have a really good year out

2078
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: of Deshaun Watson. So the question here, Rich is how

2079
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 2: much faith do you have that Deshaun Watson is going

2080
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 2: to revert to form that we saw back in his Houston,

2081
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 2: Texan days.

2082
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: Boy, oh boy, isn't that the million dollar question? I

2083
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: have to be honest with you. I don't know if

2084
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: it's biased, being colored by the fact that he had

2085
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: all those you know, sexual misconduct claims made against him

2086
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: in civil court and served the suspension as a result,

2087
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: or the sort of step around in terms of his

2088
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: salary when he signed the mega deal with to sign

2089
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. But I just don't have a

2090
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of faith in Deshaun Watson at this level anymore.

2091
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 1: Now I could be completely wrong, it could be proven

2092
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: completely wrong, but a he is going to be facing

2093
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 1: a gauntlet in terms of defenses he'll see in the

2094
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: AFC North. This isn't the AFC South anymore. Yeah, I mean,

2095
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 1: like you are going to go against some of the

2096
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:16,440
Speaker 1: best defenders in this league on a six game basis,

2097
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 1: home and away. So there's that, there's that side of it.

2098
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,759
Speaker 1: And as electric as he was as a Houston Texan,

2099
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: that offense was ran by a completely different style of coordinator.

2100
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: You know, Billy O'Brien, who's now with the New England

2101
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: Patriots again after you know, after serving his stint with

2102
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: the Alabama Crimson Tide. You know, he's working with Kevin

2103
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Stefanski out there in Cleveland now, who's in control that offense.

2104
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he completely understands how to

2105
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: utilize Deshaun Watson. So we'll see. I mean, it was

2106
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: a real rough start after the suspension when he came

2107
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: back last year and he had a ton of Russ

2108
01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: to knockoff. I didn't see much discernible improvement from his

2109
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 1: first start to the end of the season. I thought

2110
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: there were gonna be bigger jumps. He just really wasn't

2111
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: seeing the football field well. And well, we'll see if

2112
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: they can catch lightning and bottle with them. But I'm

2113
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: not a big believer in the in the Browns this year.

2114
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:15,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under.

2115
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 2: All right, So let's move to this steel And by

2116
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 2: the way, I'm with you on that one. That jump

2117
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,679
Speaker 2: seems a little bit premature. I got to see Deshaun

2118
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 2: Watson for full season playing at a high level, which

2119
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to do. Great reasons that you mentioned

2120
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 2: the defenses in that division, just the teams in that division,

2121
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 2: which brings us to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2122
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2123
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 2: As if Mike Tomlin already didn't have a spot in

2124
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame last year cemented it. This team

2125
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 2: was sitting at three and seven after the retirement of

2126
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 2: Big Band, on their way to what appeared to be,

2127
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 2: for the first time ever, a losing season for Mike Tomlin. No, no, No,

2128
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 2: They won six of their last seven with their rookie quarterback,

2129
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: and they finished this season at nine to eight. They're

2130
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,839
Speaker 2: over under the year is eight and a half, meaning

2131
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 2: a repeat of what they did a year ago is

2132
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 2: a winner if you're betting the over on the Steelers.

2133
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 11: Now.

2134
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people trumpeting the Steelers like

2135
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 2: this is a sleeper team. I think Brian knows, one

2136
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: of those guys, a big Steelers. Watch out for the

2137
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 2: Steelers this year. They're being under sold, are they.

2138
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking the under. I'm taking the under look. As

2139
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: much as I love Mike Tomlin. I think he's a

2140
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: great players coach. I think that I think that the

2141
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Steelers have the same problem in some ways as the Browns,

2142
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: now very different situation. Obviously, Kenny Pickett's young, and he's

2143
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,639
Speaker 1: not coming off of controversy. He's just got a lot

2144
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: to learn at this level, and it was it was

2145
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: sort of out of the frying pan into the fire

2146
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 1: after he replaced Trubisky as the starting quarterback last year.

2147
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: But unless I'm wrong, Kenny Pickett looks like one of

2148
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks who may have a low ceiling in the NFL.

2149
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: And this is an offense that I believe needs a

2150
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 1: guy who's got a much higher ceiling to make me

2151
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: a believer. So I mean, it's just look, this is

2152
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback driven league, and if you look around this division,

2153
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: the competition you have is Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson,

2154
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: and and you're you have Kenny Pickett. Like, now, for

2155
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: everything I just said about Deshaun Watson, you can exclude

2156
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 1: him from the conversation if you want to, but you

2157
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: still have to play Lamar twice and cool Joe cool

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01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: out there in Cincinnati twice. So yeah, I'm not as

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01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: big of a believer as many people are. I'm not

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01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: buying the hype as much I got. I got the

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Speaker 1: Steelers under this year.

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01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, that would mean the first losing season of Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin history.

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Speaker 3: I just say I stay away from this one.

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Speaker 2: I would never bet against Mike Tomlin to find a

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01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: way to win any season.

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Speaker 1: But over, if you gotta bet, you gotta take over.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the over.

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Speaker 2: But hold my nose on this one. I'm gonna I've

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Speaker 2: put all my trust to Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So the Steelers and Browns, who are you know? They're

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 2: middle of the pack teams. That cannot be said of

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01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens and the Bengals over under on their wins.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: North the rest and we're halfway through the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get to the top of this division right now. Rich.

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Speaker 2: A year ago, the Baltimore Ravens were ten and seven,

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 2: which is pretty impressive considering their former MVP quarterback Lamar

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01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 2: Jackson missed five games. Five games, Yeah, and they still

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01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 2: went ten and seven and they're over under it for

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01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: this season is ten and a half. So we keep

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01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 2: being told that we're gonna see a little bit different

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01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: offense this year from the Ravens. Maybe they're actually trying

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01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 2: to figure out way to preserve their quarterback instead of

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01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: beat them up. Because we've seen, and you've been a

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01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 2: big proponent of, you know, the idea that if you

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01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 2: got a mobile quarterback, you got limited time, you got

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: limited time. We saw with Cam Newton, perhaps we've seen

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Speaker 2: it with Russell Wilson, and maybe we've seen it already

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01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson. So there's a promise that we're gonna

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01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 2: say a little more throwing from the Ravens coming up

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01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 2: this season. And Lamar Jackson of course got his new

2201
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 2: deal done. So what you got feeling on the over

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01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: under ten and a half for the Baltimore Ravens.

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01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the over here, and it's not just

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01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: about the offense. I'm a big believer in John Harbaugh's

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01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: defense as well and assuming health, which look with Lamar

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: it's been tough. But at the same token, there's a

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: little something called self preservation that occurs every once in

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: a while in the NFL, and when you are a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's aiming to get his team to pay him

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: long term and doesn't want to get himself severely injured,

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01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 1: maybe some of those injuries take a little bit longer

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01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: to get back to the field than they would normally take.

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01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying Lamar Jackson faked any injuries. I

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01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: would never say that about any player, But I'm just

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01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: saying those injuries hurt a lot more and they last

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot longer when you don't feel like you're being

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01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: respected or you're you're not getting what you're due. So

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Speaker 1: I think a point was proven last year that Lamar

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01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 1: Jackson is absolutely the best, the best chance for the

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Ravens staff continued success, the long term commitment from the

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01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Ravens is exactly what he was looking for. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar plays with a rejuvenate did outlook this season, and

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01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 1: with a new offensive coordinator they have Tom munkin coming

2224
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 1: through the doors, things are gonna look a little bit different.

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01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: It's impossible for them to look the same. And also

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01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 1: that defense, again, going back to special teams in defense,

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01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 1: the focus of John Harbaugh's success over the years has

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01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 1: been regardless of what Tewingy is that quarterback, his defense

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01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: and special teams will always float his teams. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I got the Ravens hitting Tho over.

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01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm leaning under on this one only because I don't

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01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: have faith that Lamar Jackson can stay healthy.

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01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 3: Okay, had injuries the last couple of years, that is.

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01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: Fair, and they've been awful without him.

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Speaker 2: And they're just not the same. As soon as he

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01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 2: goes down, they go down. So I'm leaning under, which

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01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 2: brings us to the Cincinnati Bengals, not only the best

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01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 2: team in this division, but certainly one of the two

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01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 2: or three best teams in the NFL. Remember, if it

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Speaker 2: wasn't for an ill time penalty in that AFC Championship

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01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 2: game against the Chiefs, they could have been to back

2242
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 2: to back Super Bowls quite easily. A year ago. Of course,

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01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 2: twelve and four they had the game against the Bills,

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01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:07,839
Speaker 2: course canceled. Now they have an over under of eleven

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01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 2: and a half. Do you see any slowdown at all

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01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 2: in the Cincinnati Bengals give.

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Speaker 1: Me the overall day.

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01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 3: I'm with you on this.

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01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 1: One of the best offenses in the NFL. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is a cool character at quarterback who can win big games.

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01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: He's clutch, he's everything you want in a quarterback. That

2252
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: defense has played over their heads.

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Speaker 3: They're getting better for.

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01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Two years and they're only getting better.

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Speaker 3: How about that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line is much improved. Last year, they made

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01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: improvements up front and they got better as the season

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01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 1: went on. We should see continued improvement from them.

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01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I think the

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01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 2: Bengals are right there.

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01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 3: With the Chiefs and Eagles.

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01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 2: Yep, they're in lockstep. And again an ill time penalty

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01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 2: allowed the Chiefs to come away with the victory finally

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01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 2: against the Bengals. But this arrival we were going to

2265
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: be talking around for a long long time. And yeah,

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01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: Joe cool. Oh man, he is good.

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Speaker 3: He is really good.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, don't bet against the Bengals. I'm with you

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02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. One of the best bets Bengals over

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Speaker 2: eleven and a half wins. All right, we got another

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Speaker 2: NFL team we got to talk about on the other side.

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Speaker 2: of that Saturday program. How's that going, Rich, How's that

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Speaker 2: old seven days of radio.

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Speaker 3: Working for you? Something that I did for a lot

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 1: I like it, Yeah, I really do. You know the

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Speaker 1: six am show time. You curse your alarm clock every

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Speaker 1: single time here on the West Coast that the alarm

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Speaker 1: goes off. But I mean it beats working. I love

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Speaker 1: talking sports anyways, So yeah, you know, talking sports for

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Speaker 1: three hours with your buddies and then finishing up your

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Speaker 1: quote unquote work day at nine am never a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: and then you just live your life. Grill some ribs,

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Speaker 1: not like the Hartman's do at the Sam Hartman household.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, you know. Like but when I do

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Speaker 1: want to fire up the grill, you know, I can

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Speaker 1: put some thought into I could do a low and

2305
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 1: slow smoke all day long. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you gave your barbecue treatment to

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Speaker 2: one of Sam Hartman's ribs.

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently he's just letting people go willing nill he had,

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Speaker 1: you know, just having them removed.

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Speaker 2: And the waste of good barbecue right there. I want

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02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 2: to get back to a team today. We looked at

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02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 2: the northern divisions in the NFL as far as over

2313
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 2: under wins. Last week we were talking about the AFC

2314
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,320
Speaker 2: West and we both said, if there was the surest

2315
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:22,040
Speaker 2: bet on the board, it's over eleven and a half

2316
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:25,800
Speaker 2: wins for the Chiefs. Like, literally, we're saying, do you

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02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 2: see six losses on their schedule anywhere? I mean, when

2318
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 2: you look at their schedule, are there six losses?

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02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: Tough to make that argument, really.

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02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: Tough to make that argument that somehow they're going to

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Speaker 2: lose six games. So we were both very comfortable in

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02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 2: predicting that a safe bet is the Chiefs over eleven

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02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 2: and a half wins. However, I do have to ask

2324
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:51,240
Speaker 2: you this about the Chiefs, and I shared this story.

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02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 2: So Lamar Hunt was the originator not just of the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: but the old American Football League. He was the son

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Speaker 2: of one of the richest men in the world at

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02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 2: the time, Hl Hunt, when there were only literally a

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Speaker 2: handful of billionaires in the world, and hl Hunt was

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Speaker 2: one of them. So a twenty seven year old Lamar

2331
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:15,280
Speaker 2: Hunt try to buy his way into the NFL by

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Speaker 2: bringing an expansion team to Dallas, and they said, no,

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Speaker 2: we're not interested, and so he decided I'll start my

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02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 2: own league. By the way, a year later, the NFL

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Speaker 2: did bring an expansion team to Dallas, it just didn't

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Speaker 2: have Lamar Hunt tied to it, and the reason the

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Speaker 2: AFL survived its early years was because of the extreme

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Speaker 2: wealth of Lamar Hunt. He was able to keep certain

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Speaker 2: franchises afloat because he had money in the bank, Otherwise

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't have happened. I also remember this the first

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Speaker 2: time I ever went to Arrowhead Stadium working for the

2342
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 2: Raiders in the mid eighties. And you know, you go

2343
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 2: to press boxes around the NFL, and of course we're

2344
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 2: always looking for free food.

2345
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 3: And I get to Arrowhead knowing that this is.

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Speaker 2: A beautiful stadium, Arrowhead, and you got this really rich owner,

2347
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 2: Lamar Hunt, and I go to get food and the

2348
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 2: first thing I noticed is they had actually run out

2349
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Speaker 2: of buns for the hot dogs. I also noticed that

2350
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 2: the chips were in bags that had no brand name

2351
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 2: on them. It just said chips good. That's how you

2352
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 2: know their high quality.

2353
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 3: And I am not exaggerating.

2354
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:30,880
Speaker 2: They did not have full sized cups for your soft drink.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Dixie.

2356
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 2: Cups, right, So we're talking like it was like because.

2357
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Speaker 1: That like the dentist hands you to wash your mouth

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 2: Cheap cheap, cheap condiments, little packets, all right, Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I believe you're almost limited on how many packets you

2361
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 2: could take. So anyway, I say this because I'm looking

2362
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:55,120
Speaker 2: at the economics of the current Kansas City Chiefs now

2363
02:04:55,160 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 2: with Lamar's son in charge. Think about this. Patrick Mahomes

2364
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 2: is underpaid. Travis Kelsey is underpaid. Now, both these guys

2365
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 2: make millions and millions of dollars in endorsements, and obviously

2366
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 2: the Kelsey brothers have a huge podcast going on. But

2367
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 2: in terms of their NFL salaries and their value on

2368
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: the field, both those two guys future Hall of Famers

2369
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 2: first ballot, are underpaid. One guy tried to get paid,

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02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 2: that was Tyreek Hill. He got traded. And now you

2371
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Speaker 2: have the Chris Jones situation, and they don't seem access

2372
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,640
Speaker 2: to pay Chris Jones either. In fact, he said I'll

2373
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 2: see you in week eight. I'm just wondering for a

2374
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Speaker 2: team that's already won two Super Bowls, hosted five straight

2375
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 2: AFC Championship games, been to three Super Bowls, at some point,

2376
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 2: is there a breaking point where enough players in that

2377
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 2: locker room say enough's enough, I want to get paid

2378
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 2: or I don't play. Is their potential of that right

2379
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 2: now with the Kansas City Chiefs.

2380
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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs have not only had the great

2381
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 1: foresight to move up to draft Patrick Mahomes and then

2382
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 1: groom him behind a very talented and good mentor and

2383
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, but they also got lucky with his ability

2384
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 1: to be clutch at this level, Like that is something

2385
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: that's either written into your genetic code. Yes, I'm convinced

2386
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: of it, or it's just not. And Patrick Mahomes has

2387
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:36,600
Speaker 1: that sort of low heartbeat that like Navy seals talk about,

2388
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 1: like when the bullets are flying. For real, those guys

2389
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 1: their heartbeats just like yours and mine do when we're watching,

2390
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, like some boring movie at home. That's how

2391
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is. He goes into that mode where he

2392
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 1: can win you games. So, okay, you get lucky a

2393
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 1: little bit there, But then also you get lucky with

2394
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: the level of humility that he approaches his whole career with.

2395
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: And maybe it helps with some of the mentorship he

2396
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 1: received that home from his parents, or maybe it helps

2397
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 1: because he signed with superagent Lee Steinberg, who has a

2398
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a different approach with how he advertises

2399
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: his quarterbacks early in their careers and how he does

2400
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 1: business with organizations but Patrick Mahomes is going to Tom

2401
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 1: Brady route. He's giving the home team the discount. He

2402
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 1: is asking them, hey, work with me here. If I

2403
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: sacrifice some income, can you keep a team worthy of

2404
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: going to championship games on the field on this roster

2405
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: throughout the next bunch of years. And the Kansas City

2406
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs they've made good on that promise. I mean they

2407
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: traded away Tyreek Hill. If I'm Patrick Mahomes, I'm raising

2408
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 1: my eyebrows and going this better work, this better work,

2409
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: because I just signed that contract and remember that handshake promise,

2410
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 1: we made this better work. And guess what it did.

2411
02:07:57,760 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 1: In that very next season they go and they win

2412
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP. So that is the

2413
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,720
Speaker 1: reason why the Chiefs are so good. And I don't

2414
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 1: see that changing, Steve, And honestly that that level of

2415
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 1: humility and that level of sacrifice, it's contagious. That's why

2416
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:19,320
Speaker 1: you don't hear guys on the Kansas City Chiefs really

2417
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:22,840
Speaker 1: complaining about, you know, salary or income. There hasn't there

2418
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 1: haven't been any holdouts since since Patrick Mahomes has gotten there.

2419
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 1: It's because everybody's so happy to be playing with the

2420
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 1: level of talent a quarterback that gives you a chance

2421
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: to win. That's the reason why people took price cuts

2422
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: to go to New England just to have a chance

2423
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Which during that run Tom Brady,

2424
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: how many AFC Championship games did they appear in when

2425
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,640
Speaker 1: Brady was the quarterback in New England? It was a

2426
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 1: nauseating amount. And we're seeing that with Patrick Mahomes. He

2427
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: hasn't missed an AFC Championship appearance since he's been d

2428
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: or since he took over his second year in the league.

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02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 2: Chris Jones, you take Chris Jones off that d I mean,

2430
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 2: he is he knows he's gonna lose a million plus

2431
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 2: for every game he misses and goes.

2432
02:09:11,400 --> 02:09:14,040
Speaker 3: I can afford it. I can afford it.

2433
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 2: That Chiefs dev I mean, if you watch that AFC

2434
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 2: Championship game against the Bengals, he was unblockable. You take

2435
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 2: Chris Jones out of the mix on that Chiefs defense,

2436
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 2: they look a whole lot different.

2437
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean, again, we haven't started the regular season.

2438
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of guys threaten to sit out

2439
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 2: games and ultimately they come back.

2440
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 3: Perhaps Chris Jones.

2441
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 2: Will do that, but if he follows through on this

2442
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 2: it it could have an adverse effect, not just on

2443
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 2: the field, but in that locker room as well. We'll

2444
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 2: get back to that a little bit later on. But

2445
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, we're gonna get into

2446
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 2: a little MLB talker Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider John

2447
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 2: Paul Morosi will join us. Coming up next Steve Harbin,

2448
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 2: Rich Armberger, Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from

2449
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,560
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, we're going

2450
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 2: to take a little rest but from all the football

2451
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 2: talk for a moment.

2452
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:15,000
Speaker 3: Although he is as excited as we all are about

2453
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 3: Week one.

2454
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 2: Of the college football season next week after a couple

2455
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,040
Speaker 2: of games, a little appetizer Week zero in college football,

2456
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 2: He of course is our Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider one,

2457
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, JP, how are you.

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Speaker 11: Today, outstanding? Happy Week zero of college football? Of course,

2459
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 11: Week one now beginning, can't wait. Michigan will have East

2460
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 11: Carolina at home. I plan to be there and very

2461
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 11: much looking forward to the Wolverines season opener.

2462
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's get right to the biggest baseball story,

2463
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 2: the arm injury to O Tawny. Play it out, How

2464
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 2: does this affect free agency for show.

2465
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 11: Hey, great question, Steeve, And really, in a lot of ways,

2466
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,520
Speaker 11: we don't even know the full extent yet. It depends,

2467
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 11: of course, on if he is going to have Tommy

2468
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 11: John surgery, which is not yet known the Angels and

2469
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 11: Otani's camp still waiting to see exactly the severity of it. Obviously,

2470
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 11: he's still been able to bat as a dh which

2471
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 11: one must think is a pretty good sign that perhaps

2472
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 11: he may not need the full Tommy John. Maybe there's

2473
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 11: the internal bracing procedure that could help address the issue.

2474
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 11: But obviously, Steve and Rich we thought a lot about

2475
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 11: what the overall dollars would be, and then we've all

2476
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 11: had the conversation, would it be half a billion dollars?

2477
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 11: Would have be six hundred million dollars. I think the

2478
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 11: notion of getting a full on guarantee and that range

2479
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 11: for ten years is probably unrealistic at this point. But

2480
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 11: I'm also a big believer in Show's athleticism, his character

2481
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 11: that he's going to be able to show different teams

2482
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,200
Speaker 11: depending on how he wants to play this out, where

2483
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 11: maybe it ends up being a shorter term deal that

2484
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 11: early on is heavily weighted towards being a DH only

2485
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,440
Speaker 11: or a D agent, or an outfitter or a DH

2486
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 11: and a first baseman that eventually then brings in some

2487
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 11: pitching with incentive that could help him get to that

2488
02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 11: level that he would have been looking at all along.

2489
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 11: So I think it certainly changes the story. It introduces

2490
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 11: a lot of different dynamics in his free agency, But

2491
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 11: in terms of totally taking the wind out of the sales,

2492
02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 11: of all the excitement surrounding him, I don't see that yet.

2493
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 11: I think he's still able to be a superstar player.

2494
02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 11: Maybe not quite in the way that we had hoped,

2495
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:34,480
Speaker 11: but he remains to me, at least the number one

2496
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 11: story in baseball entering this offseason.

2497
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt about that. JAPM. We've talked about

2498
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:43,720
Speaker 1: him for weeks now and really months now, because there's

2499
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: so much intrigue about sho hey Otani in his future,

2500
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 1: whether it's leading up to the trade deadliner now as

2501
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 1: the Angels are cruising to the finish of their season,

2502
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 1: what his offseason is going to look like. Here's an

2503
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 1: interesting angle on this story, and it's one that through

2504
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 1: discussion with Steve about this and others, I've been thinking

2505
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:04,440
Speaker 1: is is this is this a little bit of a

2506
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 1: positive for franchises who may be involved in the show,

2507
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 1: Heyotani sweepstakes? Now follow me here, Because Tommy John surgery

2508
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: obviously is not a good thing. But Shoe Aotani is

2509
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:22,800
Speaker 1: a transcendent ballplayer, whether we're talking about what he does

2510
02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: at the plate or on the mound. So you sign

2511
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: him a big old contract whatever it looks like. You

2512
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:31,920
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get him, obviously at the plate or

2513
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 1: on the mound. But with the recent news about the

2514
02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:39,200
Speaker 1: UCL and the potential of a second Tommy John surgery

2515
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:44,040
Speaker 1: potentially happening somewhere down the line, this takes his number

2516
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 1: down a little bit. And if you listen to a

2517
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 1: red you know, the transcripts of interviews or what what

2518
02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 1: writers were getting from his camp when he was coming

2519
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball in the first place, he wanted

2520
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:01,640
Speaker 1: to pitch and he wanted to hit, and nobody was

2521
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 1: going to be able to sign him. That was going

2522
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:06,880
Speaker 1: to tell him otherwise. So if you get sho Hey

2523
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:09,080
Speaker 1: for a little bit of a discount because of the

2524
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:12,520
Speaker 1: injury concerns, and then he returns to the mound as

2525
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:16,600
Speaker 1: a starter somewhere down the line, when, however, this UCL

2526
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 1: injury is figured out, is it a good thing, meaning

2527
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:26,520
Speaker 1: you get a generational talent for maybe more of a

2528
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 1: discount than you would have previously to the news of

2529
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 1: the injury.

2530
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 11: It's a great question, and I think the answer is

2531
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:38,880
Speaker 11: that for teams that a week ago were not necessarily

2532
02:14:38,920 --> 02:14:44,320
Speaker 11: optimistic about their chances, the introduction of some uncertainty from

2533
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,080
Speaker 11: that standpoint, if you just look at the game theory

2534
02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:49,800
Speaker 11: of it, if you will, it allows maybe for a

2535
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:53,400
Speaker 11: team like Seattle to get more involved, a team like

2536
02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 11: Texas to get more involved, because previous to this over

2537
02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 11: the last week, conventional wisdom said, well, he's probably going

2538
02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 11: to be a Dodger or an Angel full stop. And

2539
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 11: maybe there is a really extreme case where that would

2540
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 11: not happen. But those are the two teams very clearly

2541
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 11: at the top of the list. Now do the Cubs

2542
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:17,520
Speaker 11: get involved. They're a major market team with a really

2543
02:15:17,560 --> 02:15:20,240
Speaker 11: interesting appeal, and the Cubs made an effort to sign

2544
02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:23,080
Speaker 11: them last time around, but as a National League team

2545
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 11: at the time, there was an inherent disadvantage due to

2546
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:30,160
Speaker 11: not having the DH. So now on a more level

2547
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 11: playing field, the Cubs, who are an up and coming team,

2548
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 11: and Showy knows the game so well, he's going to

2549
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:36,560
Speaker 11: want to be with the team. He's got a chance

2550
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 11: to win for the next five, six, seven, eight, nine years.

2551
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,400
Speaker 11: The Cubs can do that, the Mariners can do that,

2552
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:45,240
Speaker 11: the Rangers can do that. They're all teams that are

2553
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 11: good now and should be good for a while. So

2554
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 11: I'm a believer that when uncertainty gets added into the mix,

2555
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:55,920
Speaker 11: then the teams that were on the outside looking in

2556
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 11: could see their chances to get them improved a little bit.

2557
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,280
Speaker 11: I think too. The other point I'd make Rich is

2558
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 11: that if I'm show A and if you just sort

2559
02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:09,800
Speaker 11: of put yourself in his shoes, if his desire and

2560
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:12,040
Speaker 11: his strong desire is to be able to be a

2561
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:14,640
Speaker 11: pitcher for the long term, and that that's what he

2562
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 11: wants to do, then he should pursue whatever the recommendation

2563
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:23,200
Speaker 11: is on a potential surgery. If he needs surgery, whether

2564
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 11: it's Tommy John or the internal brace or something else,

2565
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 11: that he go to the place that is best known

2566
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 11: and has the best medical and training infrastructure to get

2567
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 11: back on the mound if that is his number one goal.

2568
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:43,480
Speaker 11: And I preface it by beginning that sentence very very intentionally.

2569
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:47,120
Speaker 11: If his number one goal is to pitch, and he

2570
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,959
Speaker 11: should say, Okay, my goal above all else is to

2571
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,119
Speaker 11: come back and be as dominant on the mound as

2572
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:54,240
Speaker 11: I was for a lot of this season and for

2573
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:56,600
Speaker 11: the last couple of years. And if that's the case,

2574
02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:58,720
Speaker 11: I need to go to the team that's got the

2575
02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:02,160
Speaker 11: best in class medical training for the next two years.

2576
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:06,280
Speaker 11: Look at it, to use a popular expression, here we

2577
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:08,440
Speaker 11: are at the beginning of the academic year. Look at

2578
02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:11,080
Speaker 11: this as like a two year graduate school program. My

2579
02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 11: graduate school program is in getting as healthy as I

2580
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:16,880
Speaker 11: can and getting back on the mountain. What's my best

2581
02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:19,959
Speaker 11: masters in being healthy as a pitcher? A program that

2582
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:22,640
Speaker 11: I can find and go there and then worry about

2583
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:25,960
Speaker 11: the future sometime after the twenty twenty five season. That

2584
02:17:26,240 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 11: might be a little bit of an oversimplification, but I

2585
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 11: think there's a lot of wisdom in that. Go to

2586
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 11: the place where you can achieve your dream. And right now,

2587
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:36,240
Speaker 11: his dream, I believe, is to be able to do

2588
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:39,960
Speaker 11: this again hitter and a pitcher on a team that's

2589
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 11: in the hunt. So those teams that are in the

2590
02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:47,240
Speaker 11: hunt and have very good infrastructure there, prepare your sales

2591
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:51,680
Speaker 11: pitches accordingly and convince show a that you've got the

2592
02:17:51,720 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 11: best place for him to go back and get to

2593
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:55,800
Speaker 11: that level of potential. Again.

2594
02:17:56,800 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, there's a danger in spending a lot of money,

2595
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:01,640
Speaker 2: and we have seen it in full force this year

2596
02:18:01,640 --> 02:18:05,119
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. Disastrous years for the Mets the Yankees.

2597
02:18:05,160 --> 02:18:07,720
Speaker 2: But I want to turn to the San Diego Padres,

2598
02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 2: who right now are trailing the Brewers nine to four

2599
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:14,120
Speaker 2: and the seventh inning Dodgers of ore won today, meaning

2600
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:18,400
Speaker 2: if the Padres lose, they will be twenty games behind

2601
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:23,679
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and their faint playoff hopes are all but extinguished.

2602
02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 3: What makes this even.

2603
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:27,800
Speaker 2: More baffling is to all their high priced players have

2604
02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:30,600
Speaker 2: been healthy. It's not like, I mean, Soto has missed

2605
02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:34,120
Speaker 2: a single game this year. This is a guy that

2606
02:18:34,280 --> 02:18:38,240
Speaker 2: was being hyped to some kind of generational talent, and

2607
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:41,879
Speaker 2: yet his numbers are pedestrian in terms of the elite

2608
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:44,959
Speaker 2: players in this league. Manny Machado, I mean, I'll put

2609
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,440
Speaker 2: it this way, the highest war on this team Hassan Kim.

2610
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 2: Hassan Kim has the highest war on this team. Now

2611
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 2: I've been in Rich knows this, A long time critic

2612
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:57,280
Speaker 2: of Aj Preller. He's one of those guys that talks

2613
02:18:57,320 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 2: a great game. The media loves this guy because he's

2614
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:04,040
Speaker 2: baseball junkie. He's done a horrible job. He even got

2615
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:07,160
Speaker 2: a blank checkbook to put this team together, and look

2616
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 2: where they are right now. So if they were to

2617
02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:11,959
Speaker 2: get rid of Preller, which I said they should have

2618
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:15,199
Speaker 2: done at the trade deadline because he was confident, let's

2619
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:17,039
Speaker 2: stan pat We're going to roll through the rest of

2620
02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 2: this year. But if suddenly John Paul Morosi, a guy

2621
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:24,080
Speaker 2: that actually knows the game, we're to step in and

2622
02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:28,960
Speaker 2: assume the general manager position with the Padres organization, how

2623
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:30,240
Speaker 2: would you fix this mess?

2624
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:31,240
Speaker 3: Is it fixable?

2625
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:34,960
Speaker 11: It's a great question, and I think with respect to

2626
02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:39,080
Speaker 11: the Padres, you're exactly right that spending more and more

2627
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:43,600
Speaker 11: money on more and more superstar players is not always

2628
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:46,000
Speaker 11: the right path, and in fact, it often is not.

2629
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:48,520
Speaker 11: When you look at how well the Mets and the

2630
02:19:48,520 --> 02:19:51,080
Speaker 11: Padres are playing this season, even the Yankees to an

2631
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:54,320
Speaker 11: extent as well. What I would say is my reaction

2632
02:19:54,480 --> 02:19:59,720
Speaker 11: is twofold number one. You cannot buy culture. You cannot

2633
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:05,240
Speaker 11: by culture. This team is a collection of really good

2634
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,000
Speaker 11: players and in some cases great players, but they are

2635
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:11,640
Speaker 11: not a team. There's a difference between talent and team,

2636
02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:14,520
Speaker 11: and we are seeing that in San Diego right now.

2637
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:19,240
Speaker 11: It is a chasm between those two issues. I think

2638
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:22,480
Speaker 11: that the fix right now is not going to be

2639
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 11: a quick one. Your brother came in nine years ago now,

2640
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 11: so he's had different iterations of going for it, and

2641
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:34,080
Speaker 11: at almost every turn, Steve, as you know, he's shown

2642
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:37,320
Speaker 11: a willingness to either spend big or make big trades.

2643
02:20:37,400 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 11: And he made that massive trade for Soto, and he

2644
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 11: gave up some pretty talented players, a lot of guys

2645
02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:47,920
Speaker 11: that are part of a resurgence in Washington, d C.

2646
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:51,480
Speaker 11: I would say that if the Padres had just kept

2647
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 11: the status quo. And I love Jan Soona as a player,

2648
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:58,640
Speaker 11: but good teams like the Dodgers, we who are a

2649
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,199
Speaker 11: great team in a lot of ways, have a balance

2650
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:05,120
Speaker 11: between veterans and youth, and the Padres, in the way

2651
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:08,440
Speaker 11: that they've done things, have never really found a way

2652
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:12,600
Speaker 11: to strike that balance. And it's importantly seen right now

2653
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:15,600
Speaker 11: in their everyday club. And when I look at their

2654
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:18,480
Speaker 11: everyday club, Steven Rich, do you know how many people

2655
02:21:18,560 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 11: and they're starting nine, their most frequent nine player lineup,

2656
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:26,720
Speaker 11: how many of them were drafted and developed and began

2657
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 11: their pro careers as San Diego Padres.

2658
02:21:29,240 --> 02:21:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't see one.

2659
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:32,760
Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say.

2660
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:35,039
Speaker 2: Heytis was in a trade with the White Sox. So

2661
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:36,280
Speaker 2: I don't see any none.

2662
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,199
Speaker 11: Zero. The answer is absolutely zero. So the only position

2663
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:43,279
Speaker 11: players who signed their first MLB contracts with the Padres

2664
02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 11: where Hassan Kim, Luis Campusano, and Matthew Batton. That's it.

2665
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:50,640
Speaker 11: And Hassan Kim, of course, had come over from beginning

2666
02:21:50,640 --> 02:21:54,000
Speaker 11: his career in Korea, so he's not really a drafted

2667
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:57,160
Speaker 11: and developed player through the minor league system. He arrived

2668
02:21:57,160 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 11: to the major leagues. So you basically have two guys,

2669
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:05,560
Speaker 11: two position players who are homegrown players, and they're not

2670
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:09,080
Speaker 11: the core guys. And that, to me is what's going

2671
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:13,560
Speaker 11: on here. You've got a collection of players without having

2672
02:22:13,640 --> 02:22:18,879
Speaker 11: the infrastructure of building from within, and the Dodgers have

2673
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:21,600
Speaker 11: been able to master this. Look at how home grown

2674
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:25,600
Speaker 11: and how talented the Baltimore Orioles are with all of

2675
02:22:25,640 --> 02:22:28,560
Speaker 11: their own guys. And we're seeing now that when you

2676
02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:33,240
Speaker 11: spend and spend and spend and don't have culture and chemistry.

2677
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:38,320
Speaker 11: This is what happens, and the fix is, honestly, patients,

2678
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:41,039
Speaker 11: You've got to now allow some of your younger players

2679
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 11: to come in and fill in the roster. But you

2680
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 11: may also have to at this point in time, guys

2681
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:49,280
Speaker 11: look at making a move this offseason. Do you put

2682
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:52,040
Speaker 11: Wan Soto on the trade market to get a little

2683
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 11: bit younger and a little more athletic and kind of

2684
02:22:55,800 --> 02:22:58,000
Speaker 11: share the ball a bit more from a standpoint of

2685
02:22:57,600 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 11: the lineup burden with just some different looking at bats,

2686
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:04,680
Speaker 11: you know, the guys that have been injured. Corona Worth

2687
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:07,920
Speaker 11: has now heard it's just been a disastrous year where

2688
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:12,119
Speaker 11: the personnelitist has not met the demands of Major League Baseball.

2689
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:13,199
Speaker 11: Now in twenty twenty.

2690
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:17,119
Speaker 1: Three, when you look at total payroll across Major League Baseball,

2691
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 1: the three teams at the tippy top are the New

2692
02:23:19,480 --> 02:23:21,920
Speaker 1: York Mets in first place, the New York Yankees in

2693
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:24,640
Speaker 1: second place, the San Diego Padres we were just talking

2694
02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: about in third place. All three of them right now

2695
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:31,680
Speaker 1: have below five hundred records on the year. Which team

2696
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:34,200
Speaker 1: in the offseason do you think is going to experience

2697
02:23:34,240 --> 02:23:39,359
Speaker 1: the most roster and front office and managerial turnover as

2698
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:41,920
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season comes to the end.

2699
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:47,920
Speaker 11: It's a great question. I think the Padres likely will

2700
02:23:48,160 --> 02:23:52,240
Speaker 11: because I'm not sure there's been no statement yet about

2701
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:55,440
Speaker 11: about Bob Melvin's future in San Diego. I think that's

2702
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:58,800
Speaker 11: an open question. There may be an open question about

2703
02:23:58,840 --> 02:24:02,840
Speaker 11: aj Brothers' future. It's a situation where one comes back

2704
02:24:02,840 --> 02:24:05,920
Speaker 11: and the other doesn't. I think it's all things are

2705
02:24:05,959 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 11: possible right now with those outcomes and the San Diego Padres,

2706
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:13,640
Speaker 11: and I just think that when you consider the dynamics

2707
02:24:13,640 --> 02:24:18,120
Speaker 11: of this roster, they're probably the team of those three

2708
02:24:19,080 --> 02:24:22,240
Speaker 11: that has the best potential to put one of those

2709
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:25,240
Speaker 11: superstars on the trade market and just see what kind

2710
02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:28,040
Speaker 11: of offers come back. They may have to include some

2711
02:24:28,520 --> 02:24:31,120
Speaker 11: money and a deal to make it work. Maybe there's

2712
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:34,160
Speaker 11: a bad contract for bad contract type of a trade

2713
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 11: that could happen between the two. But they have got

2714
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 11: to really work on this. This is a question that

2715
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:43,480
Speaker 11: I think the Podres really have to wrestle with. Do

2716
02:24:43,560 --> 02:24:47,200
Speaker 11: they find another team that could take on Bogart's deal

2717
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,640
Speaker 11: or Machado's deal, or for one year of Soto would

2718
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,879
Speaker 11: give them some value. I think all of those things

2719
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:56,640
Speaker 11: have to be entertained here and really take a look

2720
02:24:56,680 --> 02:25:00,240
Speaker 11: at the future of this organization, because I don't see

2721
02:25:00,280 --> 02:25:02,160
Speaker 11: a really natural path to this team to be a

2722
02:25:02,200 --> 02:25:06,040
Speaker 11: lot better next season unless they get younger, make some moves,

2723
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:09,440
Speaker 11: and really look at a fundamental change to the way

2724
02:25:09,440 --> 02:25:11,360
Speaker 11: they're doing things. I also think that with the Mets,

2725
02:25:12,200 --> 02:25:14,960
Speaker 11: of course they've already traded Verlander and Scherzer, but Pete

2726
02:25:14,959 --> 02:25:17,720
Speaker 11: Alonso could be moved as well, seeing more and more

2727
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:21,120
Speaker 11: reports about Alonso nearly being moved, or there having been

2728
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:23,080
Speaker 11: a lot of conversations with the Brewers and the Cubs

2729
02:25:23,080 --> 02:25:25,400
Speaker 11: of the deadline, so I think we could see some

2730
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:27,920
Speaker 11: pretty fundamental change there in New York as well. With

2731
02:25:27,959 --> 02:25:32,039
Speaker 11: the Mets. The Yankees, goodness, guys, I think that internally,

2732
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:35,480
Speaker 11: maybe this is Josh Donaldson's last year is as a Yankee?

2733
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 11: Do you take a look at the pitching staff as well,

2734
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:41,200
Speaker 11: to bring in some more more stable pitching that has

2735
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:42,959
Speaker 11: a chance to stay healthy right now, they just have

2736
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:45,720
Speaker 11: not had luck in that regard. So I think all

2737
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:48,320
Speaker 11: three teams can see some changes, but the Podres most

2738
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:48,680
Speaker 11: of all.

2739
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,480
Speaker 2: All right, Well, next week, JP, obviously we turned the

2740
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:54,800
Speaker 2: calendar to September. A lot of baseball news. But be ready,

2741
02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:57,840
Speaker 2: we'll be all over you about your Michigan Wolverines Week

2742
02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:00,000
Speaker 2: one of the college football season.

2743
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:03,320
Speaker 11: I'll have a full report for you from my spot

2744
02:26:03,320 --> 02:26:05,680
Speaker 11: in the stands there in a arbor Michigan Stadium. I

2745
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,320
Speaker 11: believe it's going to be a committee approach coach in

2746
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:11,280
Speaker 11: the game, with of course, Jim Harbaugh not being on

2747
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,039
Speaker 11: the sidelines for Week one. I may try to call

2748
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,440
Speaker 11: some plays as well. You know, I really I think,

2749
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:18,360
Speaker 11: you know, Rich, I'd have to ask you, do you

2750
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:21,080
Speaker 11: think if I went back and maybe started to run

2751
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:23,119
Speaker 11: some plays out of the wishbone or the wing tea.

2752
02:26:23,200 --> 02:26:25,280
Speaker 11: Can we go like old school maybe in the fourth

2753
02:26:25,320 --> 02:26:27,480
Speaker 11: quarter and an experiment that way? What do you think?

2754
02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any coach to do it, it's

2755
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:32,520
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. I mean, let's face it, the way they

2756
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:35,920
Speaker 1: won last year with running in defense. Let's let's run

2757
02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 1: it back. Let's go all the way back to the

2758
02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:42,360
Speaker 1: early like the NFL AFL Merger days. Let's just let's

2759
02:26:42,360 --> 02:26:46,400
Speaker 1: just see some two yards in a dust of smoke football.

2760
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:50,120
Speaker 11: There you go, Corum off tackle right, quorum off tackle left,

2761
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 11: and when you're really feeling bold let's go corum off

2762
02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 11: white Guard. Let's pull of guard get really exciting.

2763
02:26:56,840 --> 02:26:59,199
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get ready for next week. JP, thanks

2764
02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:02,920
Speaker 3: so much. We'll talk next week. There is a great

2765
02:27:02,959 --> 02:27:04,279
Speaker 3: John Paul Morosi.

2766
02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a Wolverine fan, even though he had

2767
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:10,360
Speaker 2: a slum going to school at Harvard is where he

2768
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:13,240
Speaker 2: actually went to call it. I don't know how that worked,

2769
02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 2: but anyway, right now, let's find out what is trending.

2770
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:21,600
Speaker 2: And Monsei has been scrambling today because you got a

2771
02:27:21,640 --> 02:27:24,840
Speaker 2: little baseball going on. We only have one more preseason game.

2772
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why there's no college football team.

2773
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:30,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I really thought there were college football games today.

2774
02:27:30,360 --> 02:27:30,680
Speaker 1: I was.

2775
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they had Friday games, but they had no Why.

2776
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:36,200
Speaker 7: It just seems like you could have taken advantage of it.

2777
02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean next week we have a full

2778
02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:40,000
Speaker 2: weekend of college football.

2779
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:41,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, I missed an opportunity.

2780
02:27:41,720 --> 02:27:44,080
Speaker 7: Really really really did well.

2781
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:48,240
Speaker 8: The Tour Championship play was suspended because of inclement weather.

2782
02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:51,280
Speaker 8: It's back on and Victor Hovlin is still in the

2783
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:54,279
Speaker 8: lead at twenty three underpar overall.

2784
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:58,119
Speaker 7: Xander shuffle A is still six strokes.

2785
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,800
Speaker 8: Back like he's been in the lead, and nobody's even

2786
02:28:00,879 --> 02:28:03,600
Speaker 8: kind of getting close to Victor Hoblin, so we'll see

2787
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 8: if he ends up holding on to win the Tour championship.

2788
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,760
Speaker 8: Let's move on to Major League baseball. Remember it's so romantic.

2789
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:13,640
Speaker 8: I guess when you suck, you probably want to fight, right.

2790
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:17,080
Speaker 8: So the Yankees ended up losing to Tampa Bay.

2791
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:18,440
Speaker 7: But don't worry, guys.

2792
02:28:18,520 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 8: The bench is cleared twice in the game before the

2793
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:25,000
Speaker 8: Rays held on to win seven to four. The first

2794
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:28,400
Speaker 8: time the bench is cleared was because Randy Atrosaina was hit.

2795
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:30,280
Speaker 7: By a pitch, and then the bench is cleared.

2796
02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:33,000
Speaker 8: Then he stole second and third base, and then the

2797
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:33,920
Speaker 8: bench is cleared again.

2798
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:37,400
Speaker 7: So is that the umpire's fault? Did they not control

2799
02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:38,520
Speaker 7: it after the first one?

2800
02:28:39,080 --> 02:28:41,920
Speaker 2: I got a lot to say about umpires again. I mean,

2801
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:46,000
Speaker 2: I am all about eliminating umpires.

2802
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:47,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I've said this.

2803
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:51,600
Speaker 2: It's you don't have fouls, you don't have penalties, right,

2804
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:57,280
Speaker 2: Why do I need an umpire? Everything can be done electronically, balls, strike, safe, out, fair,

2805
02:28:57,360 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 2: foul done.

2806
02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, as soon as you start

2807
02:29:00,640 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 1: complimenting umpires or officials or referees, they immediately let you down.

2808
02:29:05,879 --> 02:29:08,240
Speaker 7: So they really really though, I'm.

2809
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Gonna blame them for everything. The Yankees had no fault

2810
02:29:11,560 --> 02:29:15,279
Speaker 1: in this occurrence, for sure. It was honestly, it was blue.

2811
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:16,720
Speaker 1: They screwed it up.

2812
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like what were you doing? If it happened so

2813
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 7: close to each other? It's like, guys, come on, you

2814
02:29:21,640 --> 02:29:23,600
Speaker 7: gotta do something here. Why are you out here?

2815
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,800
Speaker 8: The Cubs they dominated the Pirates ten to one, Phillies

2816
02:29:26,840 --> 02:29:30,119
Speaker 8: blank the Cardinals three zero, and of course, Kyle Schwarber

2817
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:33,040
Speaker 8: hit home run number thirty five on the season. The

2818
02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:36,039
Speaker 8: Dodgers beat the Red Sox in Boston seven to four.

2819
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:39,120
Speaker 8: Mookie Betts also hit his thirty fifth homer over the

2820
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:42,720
Speaker 8: Green Monster. Freddie Freeman, though is officially the Dodgers single

2821
02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:46,440
Speaker 8: season franchise leader in doubles with fifty, He had two

2822
02:29:46,520 --> 02:29:49,400
Speaker 8: doubles in this game. The Orioles had a chance to win,

2823
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:51,840
Speaker 8: but the Rockies held on. Four to three was the

2824
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:54,480
Speaker 8: final score. The Mets walked it off against the Angels

2825
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:57,760
Speaker 8: three to two. The Mariners have scored first against the Royals.

2826
02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:01,240
Speaker 8: It's one zero bottom of the second inning. Rangers still

2827
02:30:01,240 --> 02:30:03,160
Speaker 8: have a lead over the Twins five to four, but

2828
02:30:03,200 --> 02:30:06,600
Speaker 8: at the bottom of the eighth inning in Minnesota.

2829
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:09,000
Speaker 7: And the Brewers were down, but not anymore. They scored

2830
02:30:09,080 --> 02:30:11,520
Speaker 7: seven runs in the sixth inning. They've taken the lead

2831
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:14,359
Speaker 7: over the Padres. It's nine to six. Top of the seventh.

2832
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:18,360
Speaker 8: Inning, Astros all over the Tigers fourteen to three. But

2833
02:30:18,480 --> 02:30:22,640
Speaker 8: those three runs for the Tigers, of course, Miguel Cabrera,

2834
02:30:23,160 --> 02:30:24,680
Speaker 8: I mean, at least you get to see that.

2835
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:26,879
Speaker 1: I like this. I mean me too.

2836
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:30,240
Speaker 2: His last I don't know, five or six years biness.

2837
02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:31,360
Speaker 2: Not great.

2838
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 3: He's already cemented obviously, spot in the Hall of Fame.

2839
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:37,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, so last tour, one last tour hits a three

2840
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:40,560
Speaker 8: run homer. He was a dhen and put them at

2841
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:42,680
Speaker 8: least on the scoreboard. And the Guardians and the Blue

2842
02:30:42,760 --> 02:30:44,760
Speaker 8: Jays I mentioned earlier, it's been back and forth. They're

2843
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 8: headed to extra innings, tied at six a peace. In

2844
02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 8: the NFL, the Dolphins announced that Daywood Davis has been

2845
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:54,960
Speaker 8: released from the hospital today after being injured in last

2846
02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:56,960
Speaker 8: night's preseason game at Jacksonville.

2847
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:58,240
Speaker 7: He's headed back to Miami.

2848
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:01,520
Speaker 8: The Dolphins and defensive tackle Riston Wilkins were unable to

2849
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:03,400
Speaker 8: come to terms on a new deal. This is according

2850
02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:06,520
Speaker 8: to the NFL Network, So the Dolphins and defensive lineman

2851
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 8: Zach Zealer agreed on a three year extension worth up

2852
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 8: to thirty eight million, with.

2853
02:31:10,959 --> 02:31:12,560
Speaker 7: Twenty million guaranteed.

2854
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:16,200
Speaker 8: And MRI confirmed that Cleveland Brown's receiver and returner Jaquem

2855
02:31:16,280 --> 02:31:19,680
Speaker 8: Grant ruptured his Beteller tendon in yesterday's preseason game at

2856
02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:22,920
Speaker 8: Kansas City. He's out for the season. Missed last season

2857
02:31:22,959 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 8: with the ruptured Achilles tendon. In college sports, Arizona State

2858
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:29,320
Speaker 8: is self imposing a one year bowlband for the twenty

2859
02:31:29,360 --> 02:31:32,480
Speaker 8: twenty three football season. This decision stems from the ongoing

2860
02:31:32,600 --> 02:31:36,360
Speaker 8: nc DOUAA investigation for alleged violations that occurred under former

2861
02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:39,360
Speaker 8: coach IERM Edwards.

2862
02:31:38,760 --> 02:31:41,400
Speaker 7: Wow today, how did you.

2863
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Say you're up?

2864
02:31:43,480 --> 02:31:45,600
Speaker 3: Day was busier than the actual day.

2865
02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:47,320
Speaker 8: I know something.

2866
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:54,720
Speaker 7: And we didn't even talk about the rib this time.

2867
02:31:54,720 --> 02:31:56,320
Speaker 3: Not even the show is over.

2868
02:31:56,520 --> 02:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Good.

2869
02:31:57,160 --> 02:31:59,359
Speaker 3: A tremendous job today, Monster.

2870
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:03,880
Speaker 2: To say, all right, thank you very much, very quick

2871
02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:07,280
Speaker 2: follow up on the Padres situation, Rich because obviously you're

2872
02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:09,800
Speaker 2: down in San Diego and obviously.

2873
02:32:09,400 --> 02:32:10,760
Speaker 3: I was there for quite a while.

2874
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:17,279
Speaker 2: It's really bizarre because it's been a horrific year considering expectations,

2875
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:21,280
Speaker 2: and yet they've sold out the ballpark all but a

2876
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:24,720
Speaker 2: handful of games. I know the announced ticket prices are

2877
02:32:24,760 --> 02:32:27,440
Speaker 2: going to go up. What is the what is a

2878
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:33,199
Speaker 2: general mood right now in San Diego toward the Padres?

2879
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I guess it would very based on the

2880
02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:43,800
Speaker 1: day and what happened the night previous. But the varies

2881
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:48,320
Speaker 1: are from disappointed to extremely disappointed night.

2882
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean they're still going to the ballpark.

2883
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Well now, don't get me wrong. That

2884
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:57,480
Speaker 1: crowd is thinning out more and more as they continue

2885
02:32:57,480 --> 02:33:00,400
Speaker 1: to get further and further out of the playoff picture.

2886
02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:05,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, they had a record number of sellouts. They

2887
02:33:05,320 --> 02:33:10,320
Speaker 1: or a record number of consecutive sellouts this season. This

2888
02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:13,720
Speaker 1: is the most any owner has ever invested in a

2889
02:33:13,760 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 1: baseball team in Padres history. Like I said, they're top three,

2890
02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:23,160
Speaker 1: They are third from the top of the risk list

2891
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:24,720
Speaker 1: in an overall payroll this season.

2892
02:33:24,879 --> 02:33:26,520
Speaker 3: None of those teams will make the playoffs better.

2893
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:29,119
Speaker 1: None of them will because the Yankees are under five hundred,

2894
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:30,920
Speaker 1: the Mets are under five hundred. They had to sell

2895
02:33:30,959 --> 02:33:34,480
Speaker 1: off at the trade deadline, and the Padres, while they

2896
02:33:34,600 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 1: added at the trade deadline, they continued their poor play

2897
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 1: from the first half. It's it's just been a head scratching,

2898
02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:47,080
Speaker 1: bizarrely inadequate season where the fans, I would say, have

2899
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:51,000
Speaker 1: never been so let down by this team. And this

2900
02:33:51,080 --> 02:33:54,280
Speaker 1: is a team that has never delivered a championship, has

2901
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:57,080
Speaker 1: only made one World Series run in the history of

2902
02:33:57,120 --> 02:34:01,720
Speaker 1: the franchise, and this is the most pointing season the

2903
02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:02,840
Speaker 1: fans I've ever endured.

2904
02:34:02,920 --> 02:34:04,760
Speaker 2: All Right, coming up on the other side, we'll put

2905
02:34:04,760 --> 02:34:08,040
Speaker 2: a rap on things, including getting you ready for a

2906
02:34:08,240 --> 02:34:11,160
Speaker 2: full week one of college football.

2907
02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday. Behind him as Austin Jones

2908
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:15,680
Speaker 3: and a new set of downs.

2909
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:18,600
Speaker 12: As the ball is dropped, Caleb picks it up, trying

2910
02:34:18,600 --> 02:34:21,840
Speaker 12: to make something happen, throws long and it is complete

2911
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:25,200
Speaker 12: and of the thirty, the twenty, the fifteen, ten to

2912
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 12: five and touchdown USC Taj Washington something out of nothing.

2913
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:35,400
Speaker 1: It was a fumbled snap. Caleb went back post.

2914
02:34:35,480 --> 02:34:37,600
Speaker 12: Coaches will tell you, no fall on the ball, Not

2915
02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,039
Speaker 12: Caleb Williams, not mister Heisman Trophy.

2916
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Picks it up but throws a touchdown pass.

2917
02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:42,800
Speaker 1: How do you do?

2918
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,880
Speaker 2: That's Pete harborgas voice in the USC Trojans on larr

2919
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, We're alive from the tire rag dot

2926
02:35:07,879 --> 02:35:11,400
Speaker 2: com studios. By the way, there's a Heisman moment already.

2927
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:13,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you got to see that play, Rich,

2928
02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 2: but I mean he dropped. I mean, he fumbles the snap.

2929
02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,080
Speaker 2: You know, it goes behind him and he's backing the

2930
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:21,720
Speaker 2: shotgun and he just heaves the ball.

2931
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and right on the money.

2932
02:35:24,920 --> 02:35:30,920
Speaker 2: He's going. I don't see, barring injury. How whoever gets

2933
02:35:31,160 --> 02:35:34,160
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams next year in the NFL draft is going

2934
02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:34,600
Speaker 2: to miss.

2935
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he is a can't miss prospect.

2936
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:43,959
Speaker 1: He certainly has every single indication of being that type

2937
02:35:43,959 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 1: of special player. However, look, it's football, man.

2938
02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:51,039
Speaker 3: I know, and you know guarantees, that's for sure.

2939
02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no guarantees, and injuries happen, which certainly I'm

2940
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:59,000
Speaker 1: not hoping for. Because the more you know, extremely high

2941
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:01,640
Speaker 1: level quarterback we have at the college football or the

2942
02:36:01,680 --> 02:36:04,040
Speaker 1: pro level, the more interest there appears to be in

2943
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 1: this sport. So I'm into it. I know that the

2944
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:09,880
Speaker 1: majority of fans are into it. It's turned into a

2945
02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:14,880
Speaker 1: passing game. And with a four touchdown performance against the

2946
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:19,200
Speaker 1: San Jose State Spartans yesterday, I mean, if he's on

2947
02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:23,920
Speaker 1: his path to win his back to back Heisman, or

2948
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:26,280
Speaker 1: I should say, if that's his aim, that's his goal

2949
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:28,280
Speaker 1: this season, I think he's off to a pretty darn

2950
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:28,800
Speaker 1: good start.

2951
02:36:28,920 --> 02:36:32,480
Speaker 2: What a thank ark Crewe Iowa Sam. We will respect

2952
02:36:32,520 --> 02:36:35,200
Speaker 2: every single Sunday that we can get with this man.

2953
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:37,039
Speaker 10: I'm soaking it up, guys.

2954
02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:39,320
Speaker 3: Soaking it up every single week.

2955
02:36:39,440 --> 02:36:41,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it will be nice to have my

2956
02:36:41,240 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 10: weekends for you to watch the NFL and college football

2957
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:45,879
Speaker 10: from home. But there's something special about sharing it with

2958
02:36:46,040 --> 02:36:48,880
Speaker 10: everybody here. And just like I mean, I get so hyper.

2959
02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:52,160
Speaker 10: You'll see me running around. Iowa scores a touchdown like

2960
02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:55,400
Speaker 10: you know, once every six months, so you know I celebrated.

2961
02:36:55,440 --> 02:36:56,720
Speaker 3: It's like a holiday. It is.

2962
02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 2: So we got a lot of football, starting with a

2963
02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:01,720
Speaker 2: full week one of the college football season next week Monzi,

2964
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:05,520
Speaker 2: you made more out of nothing today than anyone in.

2965
02:37:05,440 --> 02:37:09,000
Speaker 3: The history of your position at Fox Sports Radio.

2966
02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:09,959
Speaker 7: Well, thank you, thank you.

2967
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:11,720
Speaker 8: But I do have a plan that maybe we can

2968
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:14,119
Speaker 8: kidnap Sam on the weekend.

2969
02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:16,320
Speaker 10: You going to see me around filling in every once

2970
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:16,959
Speaker 10: in a while, so.

2971
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:20,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, we don't like every once in a while Sam. Yeah, okay,

2972
02:37:20,360 --> 02:37:21,640
Speaker 7: so maybe we kidnap him.

2973
02:37:22,959 --> 02:37:25,800
Speaker 3: Ransom my Sam and of course Bo.

2974
02:37:26,280 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 2: Now Bo, this is going to be like your first

2975
02:37:28,879 --> 02:37:30,760
Speaker 2: full year doing the Sunday Show.

2976
02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:31,800
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, yeah, I've filled in.

2977
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2978
02:37:33,400 --> 02:37:35,520
Speaker 9: Ryan Bushinger is the most unreliable person in radio.

2979
02:37:35,600 --> 02:37:38,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, let's make it.

2980
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:41,600
Speaker 9: You know, we got to take Sam down a peg

2981
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:44,280
Speaker 9: here though, because I don't like this too much. No

2982
02:37:44,440 --> 02:37:46,680
Speaker 9: Iowa football on any of these TVs. When he's gone

2983
02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:48,279
Speaker 9: is going to be such a pleasure.

2984
02:37:48,560 --> 02:37:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't you know when you look up and

2985
02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:55,959
Speaker 2: we turned the fourth quarter and it's nine to.

2986
02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:59,959
Speaker 10: Six, right, yes, it's like preseason football here.

2987
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

2988
02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 2: A great job by everybody as always. Okay, Rich, I

2989
02:38:06,959 --> 02:38:09,800
Speaker 2: want to turn back to college football. Your Nitney Lions, obviously,

2990
02:38:09,879 --> 02:38:13,199
Speaker 2: along with most of the college football world, be making their.

2991
02:38:12,959 --> 02:38:15,440
Speaker 3: Debuts this week. If you weren't.

2992
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 2: I know, obviously you could picture yourself as an All

2993
02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:22,600
Speaker 2: American at Penn State, but was there any other college

2994
02:38:22,600 --> 02:38:28,280
Speaker 2: football program from a uniform standpoint that you wished. Yeah, look,

2995
02:38:28,360 --> 02:38:32,039
Speaker 2: I'm a Nitney lion to the core, but just to

2996
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:36,160
Speaker 2: see me in that uniform, I wonder how it would look.

2997
02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I was in college

2998
02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:44,960
Speaker 1: at Penn State there that was the time when Oregon

2999
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 1: was really starting to get experimental with their uniform.

3000
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:51,720
Speaker 3: It's like the Jeff schwartzears.

3001
02:38:51,879 --> 02:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So every every season it seemed like

3002
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 1: they tried to out to their last and you know,

3003
02:38:58,760 --> 02:39:01,440
Speaker 1: almost as a gag, like I would love to see

3004
02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:06,240
Speaker 1: what I look like in highlight or yellow or know

3005
02:39:06,280 --> 02:39:06,560
Speaker 1: of that.

3006
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean the Penn State white to me, it's very slimming,

3007
02:39:10,400 --> 02:39:12,920
Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah, oh yeah, very much.

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Speaker 1: So I looked like the stay puffed marshmallow man. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was not a good scene.

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Speaker 3: How how how are you?

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Speaker 2: Because it looks like we're throughout the college football season,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a rivalry between you and JP with

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Speaker 2: this Michigan Penn State rivalry. Did you ever envision yourself

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Speaker 2: with that very distinctive Michigan helmet.

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Speaker 1: On No, never ever, and it wasn't you even fan

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Speaker 1: of that helmet? I it's okay, I mean it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's okay. Let's ask you this question. Like,

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Speaker 1: I understand, it's the great North of this country, and

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's some Wolverines that you know are

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Speaker 1: running around in Arbor outside of the mascot name, But like,

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Speaker 1: what about anything to do with that uniform makes you

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Speaker 1: think wolverine.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll break it down. I agree with you about that,

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Speaker 2: not much. Hey, don't go anywhere, folks, keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.