Speaker 1: Front Office, unfiltered resident GM Jim Bowden joining us right now, JB.
Speaker 1: I actually want to start with a statement for you,
Speaker 1: just like our old days when we still host some
Speaker 1: radio shows together. So I'm just gonna start with this statement.
Speaker 1: The game is broken, JB. It is broken. We have
Speaker 1: the smallest TV market in Major League Baseball with by
Speaker 1: far the best record in baseball. This is exactly what
Speaker 1: everyone said all off season long, JB. Everyone was like,
Speaker 1: it's so unfair. The smallest TV markets always are the best.
Speaker 1: It's not fair that the Dodgers always stink. They get
Speaker 1: to spend all the money and yet they're looking behind
Speaker 1: them and the Padres might catch them. Oh wait, that's
Speaker 1: not anything that we said. Most people said, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty wins for the Dodgers. No one else has
Speaker 1: a chance. Small markets have no chance. Oh wait, maybe
Speaker 1: the Brewers are just run well. So what do you
Speaker 1: think about where we're at as a sport in mid August.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been exciting, hasn't it. The fact that we
Speaker 2: have so many middle of small market teams that are
Speaker 2: in the middle of a race. It's been a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. And as you mentioned, the Milwaukee Brewers. I mean,
Speaker 2: they have been the best team in baseball, and it's
Speaker 2: been really fun to watch, right, the first team since
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen to put together two ten game winning streaks
Speaker 2: in the same season, Like that's just incredible. And yet
Speaker 2: you look at their team and you understand why they
Speaker 2: have three number one starters. Right. Freddy Peralta, who faces
Speaker 2: Paul Skins today, has thirteen wins and a three o ERA.
Speaker 2: Before Missarowski got hurt, he had four and one with
Speaker 2: a two seven ERA, and Brandon Woodruff looks like the
Speaker 2: ace was before he got hurt. He's four and oh
Speaker 2: with a two two ERA, and oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: the fourth starter, Jose Cantana, has ten wins in a
Speaker 2: three four ERA, and Quinn Priestra has eleven wins and
Speaker 2: a three four ERA, and oh, by the way, they
Speaker 2: have an impact closer and Trevor McGill who's converted twenty
Speaker 2: eight to thirty one save opportunities with a two to
Speaker 2: two ERA, and oh, we'll talk about the offense fifth
Speaker 2: in baseball and run score second in stolen bases, and
Speaker 2: depending on what the defensive metrics you like, they're either
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth or sixth. Right, pick your poison whatever
Speaker 2: you want, but this is a complete team. Their manager
Speaker 2: Pat Murphy's done unbelievable job. Their GM, Matt Arnold is
Speaker 2: the reigning executive of the Year in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: It's a small market team that is going out there
Speaker 2: and is legitimately has a chance to not only win
Speaker 2: this division, but get to the World Series and maybe
Speaker 2: win the World Series. So it's been great for baseball.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun to watch in the vibe
Speaker 2: that's going on in Milwaukee is just sick.
Speaker 3: I love it if you're the GM of this team.
Speaker 3: Besides like saying, hey, these guys are winning, like I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna let them, let them do what they do.
Speaker 3: You've lost. Matt Arnold's been there before when David Stearns
Speaker 3: was there, and this team just bows out in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Is there some kind of message that you're sending down saying, hey, okay, analytically,
Speaker 3: we need to make sure that our manager makes this
Speaker 3: adjustment because in the playoffs this hasn't worked because all
Speaker 3: those names that you just said, it's all the same numbers,
Speaker 3: just rinse and recycle different names. Besides Freddy Peralta in
Speaker 3: Big WU, like it's a new closer. They've had the
Speaker 3: best closer for the last six years in baseball. Like
Speaker 3: it's just constantly they're just rinsing new names in. But
Speaker 3: they haven't been able to push it through in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. And you know, I think when
Speaker 2: we go back and we look at the ccs of
Speaker 2: Atthew days when he was pitching on two in three
Speaker 2: days rest just to go out there and try to win.
Speaker 2: And then we had the run when they had Hater
Speaker 2: and they were babying him, right, they weren't pushing the
Speaker 2: envelope with him, which you know, maybe not caused them
Speaker 2: a chance to get there. But I think this particular
Speaker 2: team is a little bit different than the rest. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you have three guys of Paralta, Mazerowski, and Woodruff
Speaker 2: pitching up to their capabilities. With McGill and what he's
Speaker 2: done the first time All Star this year, and the
Speaker 2: way they play defense, the way they're so athletic, the
Speaker 2: way they move the chains, and yet they have the
Speaker 2: veterans like Christian Yell that can also carry the team.
Speaker 2: I think this team is a little bit different. I
Speaker 2: think this team has a better ceiling just because of
Speaker 2: how deep they are. And again and I think, I
Speaker 2: think Pat Murphy has just done a brilliant job with
Speaker 2: this group. They're very close. They can beat you in
Speaker 2: so many different ways, right, and you know Bryce Terank
Speaker 2: can make a diving play up the middle, uh to
Speaker 2: win your game. Durbin's jerseys dirty by the national anthem.
Speaker 2: They're just knit. There's grit, there's it's a complete team.
Speaker 2: So I actually like this team a lot better than
Speaker 2: any Brewer team since Sabbathia was on the bump.
Speaker 4: Everyone loves when Cec was pitching those games with the
Speaker 4: Brewers because he pitched on two days resting, went nine
Speaker 4: innings every time, Jim, So it's tough to fault anybody.
Speaker 4: Oh hey, Cec, go throw a shut up. Okay, guys,
Speaker 4: I pitched, Go do it again. Okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's pretty tough to beat that. Speaking of
Speaker 4: CC one of his other teams, I thought you were
Speaker 4: talking about the Yankees and we were talking about a
Speaker 4: complete team athleticism, well managed, pitching, defense, all. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 4: you were not talking about them. What's going on in
Speaker 4: the Yankee lamb? And who's to blame? I keep saying,
Speaker 4: it's not Aaron Boon's fault. He's given a roster, he
Speaker 4: does the best he can, he stands up for his players.
Speaker 4: But who's really to blame for Yankee woes?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you're completely right about it not
Speaker 2: being on Aaron Boone, who, by the way, is a
Speaker 2: defending American League champion manager and not only managed into
Speaker 2: the World Series last year. But you know, look, this
Speaker 2: team is built on their offense and more I guess
Speaker 2: better said their power right, their first in the American
Speaker 2: League and run scored, they lead Major League Baseball and homers,
Speaker 2: they lead Major League Baseball and slug We know Aaron
Speaker 2: Judge has most to do with that, But the fact is,
Speaker 2: as a team, that's not the part of the team
Speaker 2: we're worried about that. That part's good. It's how they
Speaker 2: win games. They have to win with their power, but
Speaker 2: they can do that. But then we get to the
Speaker 2: pitching part, and I'm looking for Garrett Cole but oh,
Speaker 2: I guess he had Tommy John surgery. Oh I was
Speaker 2: looking for Clark Schmidt. He's not there. I didn't get
Speaker 2: to see Lewis heel in the first half. Marcus Stroman
Speaker 2: got released, and there's seventeenth and TmrA. The starting pitching
Speaker 2: is tenth because you know, when you have freedom, you
Speaker 2: have Rodon and now heelback's that's okay, and the kids
Speaker 2: a pitch well, right, Schuittler has been really good for them,
Speaker 2: which is a positive sign. Will Warren pitch great last night.
Speaker 2: So the starting pitching kind of gives you a shot.
Speaker 2: And then we go to the pen, which has been
Speaker 2: a huge problem. Right they're twenty second in baseball and
Speaker 2: TMRI back there. Devin Williams has been a nightmare as
Speaker 2: we all know. But GM Brian Cashman does what he
Speaker 2: always does. He stepped up of the deadline, went and
Speaker 2: got David Bednar and made some other moves to try
Speaker 2: to fortify it defensively. As you guys know, it's not
Speaker 2: a good defensive team, right, It's in the middle of
Speaker 2: the pack no matter how you want to break down.
Speaker 2: They're not very athletic, they're kind of one dimensional offensively,
Speaker 2: and they're a team that you know, maybe gets a
Speaker 2: wild card and maybe goes home. It's kind of a
Speaker 2: it's kind of a borderline team right now, it's going
Speaker 2: to come down to pitching, and that's that's gonna be
Speaker 2: the focus. They're gonna have enough offense, the defenses are
Speaker 2: going to be great. But at the same time, how
Speaker 2: do you pitch the rest of the way. He's going
Speaker 2: to determine if they're a playoff team and how far
Speaker 2: they go. But to sit there and blame any of
Speaker 2: this on the manager's foolish. I love the way he
Speaker 2: stands up for the players, and by the way, behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, he's a pretty good communicator, and you know
Speaker 2: he'll get tough on a player in his office one
Speaker 2: on one. But he doesn't embarrass players, right, not publicly
Speaker 2: and not privately does he embarrass him. He's done a
Speaker 2: great job and as I said, American League champion. But
Speaker 2: we all know what it's like in New York, right
Speaker 2: if you're not in first place, everyone needs to be fired.
Speaker 2: I remember coming home from the World Series game in
Speaker 2: New York in the taxi cab and the cab driver goes,
Speaker 2: you know, if we don't win tonight, boom boone's gonna
Speaker 2: get fired. He's gotta go. It's like, okay, okay, enough.
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Speaker 1: surf Shark today. JB. That was not a perfect roster
Speaker 1: last year. That was evident, right, that was a clunky
Speaker 1: roster that Aaron bood led to a world series. And
Speaker 1: also we know the front offices have as much, if
Speaker 1: not a bigger impact than ever on our sport. Right
Speaker 1: help on some sides to side lineups they script games
Speaker 1: the whole deal. So my follow up here, because I'm
Speaker 1: getting into many debates with Yankee fans, including some right
Speaker 1: now that are in our YouTube chat, revolves around Devin Williams.
Speaker 2: Two parter for you.
Speaker 1: One, do you fall to any of the usage Like
Speaker 1: I believe it was Friday's game when Boonie said afterward
Speaker 1: he can't really find a soft landing spine. You got
Speaker 1: to use your relievers. So essentially it's like, unless you're
Speaker 1: cutting this guy, you got to put him in some
Speaker 1: games if they're all tight games. That's the first portion.
Speaker 1: The second portion I'm getting into right now with a
Speaker 1: fan who's who wanted to ask you why they didn't
Speaker 1: trade Devin Williams at the deadline, and he said, they
Speaker 1: already have two closes they brought in, why would they
Speaker 1: have another? So can you explain how teams like to
Speaker 1: gather high leverage relievers. And also, if Devin Williams was
Speaker 1: that broken that a contender's trading him away, then what
Speaker 1: team would even want him at that point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna want them. And look, when you
Speaker 2: have a talent like Devin Williams that has a bugs
Speaker 2: bunny change up, you know, you're hoping you can get
Speaker 2: him back on track. You know, we've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of relievers go through bad slumps and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they figured out and they can be dominant. We
Speaker 2: have six weeks left in the season. But I think
Speaker 2: there's an argument that sometimes Devin Williams has been brought
Speaker 2: into games where you know, I probably would have done
Speaker 2: something differently, right, I mean, you got to win, and
Speaker 2: I can't sit there and hope that I'm going to
Speaker 2: get the Devin Williams of last year. I have to
Speaker 2: understand that I had the Devin Williams of this year,
Speaker 2: and I have to use them accordingly. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: why it was great that Cash went on got Bednar.
Speaker 2: You've got your closer. Now Bednar could be that guy.
Speaker 2: Weaver can get to him. And yeah, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: games where you know, you have to use Devin Williams
Speaker 2: in high leverage just because that's you know, he's one
Speaker 2: of thirteen guys and everyone's got to be used. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you can manage that. But look that this
Speaker 2: Yankee team is flawed, but it's still as a team
Speaker 2: that could get to the playoffs, and they're going to
Speaker 2: have to earn it. And let's wait and see.
Speaker 4: We talked about the Yankees, Let's talk about two other
Speaker 4: teams with high expectations, the Mets and the Dodgers. I mean,
Speaker 4: the Dodgers are only one game in front.
Speaker 3: The Mets have.
Speaker 4: Fallen well well behind, six games behind the Phillies at
Speaker 4: this point. Which one has the better opportunity? Well, the
Speaker 4: first of all, I'm asking you this, do you think
Speaker 4: the Dodgers will win the division? And then if they
Speaker 4: get to the playoffs, do you think the Dodgers by
Speaker 4: far have a better chance to make a deep run
Speaker 4: over the Mets.
Speaker 2: I think they have a better chance to run a
Speaker 2: deeper run than the Mets. But I think the Padres
Speaker 2: win the division, so kind of kind of go through that.
Speaker 2: And I worry a little bit about the Mets rotation.
Speaker 2: I think they'll turn things around. They're not where they
Speaker 2: won to nine in their last ten. I know they're
Speaker 2: not playing well. And I'll ask you this, AJ, what
Speaker 2: do you do when your star players aren't hitting right?
Speaker 2: Alonzo last games hitting one ninety, Lindner hitting one sixty eight,
Speaker 2: Nimo's hitting two oh five in the last twenty games.
Speaker 2: I mean I'll ask you, what do you do to
Speaker 2: turn and a Roundron Soto is hitting two o two
Speaker 2: in the last twenty games. Those are your star players.
Speaker 2: So normally when one slumps, the others are carrying you.
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, none of them are
Speaker 2: at the same time. I mean, my guess is they're
Speaker 2: going to turn it around and get hot, and then
Speaker 2: they'll win eight out of nine and turn things around.
Speaker 2: But I'll ask you, how do you how do you
Speaker 2: fix those guys when in August they've had a twenty
Speaker 2: game slump?
Speaker 4: Bench them be them all, gimp, send them down, no
Speaker 4: trade up. No, no, Well there used to be Mark
Speaker 4: Grace used to have a great idea, but we can't
Speaker 4: do that anymore. So I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: You just hope they all get hot, because, like you said, normally,
Speaker 4: they don't all get cold at the same time. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I just I'm just I'm going to go back to
Speaker 4: the other thing you said. Do you think the Padres
Speaker 4: are going to win the West? How disappointing for Dodger fans,
Speaker 4: Dodger organization, Dodger everything if the Padres somehow win the West.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I think a couple couple of things.
Speaker 2: With the Padres, they made the back end of that
Speaker 2: bullpen so ridiculously dominant that if they get into the seventh,
Speaker 2: eight to ninth with the Dodgers, and they're going to
Speaker 2: play him two weekends in a row, this weekend in
Speaker 2: La the next weekend in San Diego, and this is
Speaker 2: going to be playoff baseball in August. I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this. But that bullpen, you know
Speaker 2: you watched them last night, right when you get Miller
Speaker 2: and Sorez in those last two aning ball games over
Speaker 2: and so in that strata's dominant, Adam's dominant. I mean,
Speaker 2: that bullpen is so deep and strong, and it's so
Speaker 2: much better than the Dodgers, and I think that's going
Speaker 2: to be a huge factor. The other thing is the Dodgers' rotation.
Speaker 2: It's good, it's solid, some of it's getting healthier, but
Speaker 2: they're not as elite. And on the other side, King
Speaker 2: just came off the il. We'll see how he looks
Speaker 2: at his second start off. Darvis last night looked great.
Speaker 2: He was throwing his twelve pitches, including in the kitchen sink,
Speaker 2: didn't walk anybody, punched out six and looked really good.
Speaker 2: And then you know, the biggest problem with the Padres
Speaker 2: has been the bottom third of the lineup. You know,
Speaker 2: just wasn't producing all year. AJ Preler went out the
Speaker 2: deadline and said, no problem, here's Ramon Loriano, no problem,
Speaker 2: here's Ryan O'Hearn, right, And all of a sudden, Lewis
Speaker 2: Arrise has gotten hot after a relatively slow start even
Speaker 2: for him, and now you're getting production up and down
Speaker 2: the lineup been. In fact, in the last twenty days,
Speaker 2: Xander Bogartz has been their best power hitter. Right, He's
Speaker 2: got five home runs over that time to lead the team.
Speaker 2: So their lineup now top, the bottom is there, and
Speaker 2: the bullpen is unbelievable, and of course the vibe at
Speaker 2: Petco is tremendous as well. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a fun raise between the Padres and Dodgers.
Speaker 2: I think it'll go to the end. I'm gonna pick
Speaker 2: the Padres to win because of the bullpen and the
Speaker 2: depth of the lineup now, which I think AJ corrected.
Speaker 2: And then in terms of the nets, look, I think
Speaker 2: they get the last spot over the Reds because I
Speaker 2: think they're not as bad as what they're showing right now,
Speaker 2: and I think they'll they'll turn around. I think they're
Speaker 2: better than Cincinnati because the lineup should be much better
Speaker 2: than Cincinnati's, and I think that'll be the difference down
Speaker 2: the stretch. But in the postseason, if I had to
Speaker 2: rank the playoff teams, if the Mets get that six spot,
Speaker 2: I would rank them six out of the playoff teams.
Speaker 3: All right, you said about the Dodgers not winning the West.
Speaker 3: You know it's gonna be close. But isn't that the
Speaker 3: worst case scenario in the sense that a team that
Speaker 3: wants to play the least amount of games because their
Speaker 3: team that's built around a lot of guys that get hurt,
Speaker 3: needing to play an extra wildcard series could be the
Speaker 3: worst case scenario for them. And did the Dodgers go
Speaker 3: to all in on guys that are essentially injury risks
Speaker 3: and now they could be up against needing to play
Speaker 3: extra games to get to where they want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, you know, Andrew
Speaker 2: Friedman has always tried to offset those risks by building
Speaker 2: so much depth, right, I mean to think of the
Speaker 2: injuries they've had to twelve starters and now to still
Speaker 2: be in first place today, I mean, how many teams
Speaker 2: could ever do that, right, especially when names that were
Speaker 2: down were like Snell and glass now and Sasaki and
Speaker 2: you're still in first place today. That's that's incredible. So
Speaker 2: they've tried to build it with depth. And you know
Speaker 2: the one thing that Dodgers just need to make sure
Speaker 2: is that their starting pitchers are healthy come October, that
Speaker 2: their big guys are ready to go, and then they
Speaker 2: can clearly, you know, possibly run the table here. They
Speaker 2: can afford to make those gambling risks that most teams can't.
Speaker 2: They can keep signing injury prone guys just because they
Speaker 2: can spend whatever they want. They don't have a salary cap,
Speaker 2: they don't have a limit. They don't have a problem
Speaker 2: spending three hundred million more than the Marlins this year
Speaker 2: on payroll because they can. And if you can, why not.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, but yeah, I think health is
Speaker 2: going to play a big part of how far the
Speaker 2: Dodgers go when they get to October. They'll get there
Speaker 2: even as a maybe as a wild card team, but
Speaker 2: playing the extra round with injury risk players, sure that's
Speaker 2: going to be a factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's funny we said the same thing last year
Speaker 1: because was not a shiny rotation and they won a
Speaker 1: World Series. I would make the case the Padres are
Speaker 1: stronger this year. The Phillies are stronger this year, so
Speaker 1: it'll be a tough competition for them.
Speaker 2: But JB.
Speaker 1: Good catching up with you. JB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have crouchouts.
Speaker 4: We need to do JB's hoodie. So what's what's the
Speaker 4: hoodie today? Because I don't see a giant name brand.
Speaker 3: On that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just alo today, AJ that that's my goat.
Speaker 2: When the going gets tough, I just grab an aloe. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's good. I actually had another one on. It was purple.
Speaker 2: My wife said I look fatin, so she made me change.
Speaker 3: DUPD sweatshirt. Hey.
Speaker 1: Hey, she's a wonderful lady, so we give her all
Speaker 1: of the credit in the world, right, JB. She's only
Speaker 1: got your back, She's looking out for you. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: And I love the black. It looks good.
Speaker 2: They kill you, JB.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. We'll catch you soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1: I was going back and forth with Stephen in the
Speaker 1: chat during that conversation with JB. The question we didn't
Speaker 1: get to of his was about the Mets. He said,
Speaker 1: do you think that David Stearns will go after those
Speaker 1: big money Ace Bulldog guys in future off seasons? That's
Speaker 1: one of his things. He likes to avoid that. He
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in it. But I just wonder, Krats, when
Speaker 1: you spend so much on your team that's going to
Speaker 1: hurt you, is it worth taking that risk every once
Speaker 1: in a while. Frankie Montas has been an absolute disaster
Speaker 1: contract And I get it. It's not burning them. It's
Speaker 1: two years, thirty four million. I mean, for other teams
Speaker 1: it could really hurt. That's seventeen million dollars on a
Speaker 1: guy who hasn't pitched much this year and has been
Speaker 1: really bad since he returned. Those are the kind of
Speaker 1: guys that they hope they sprinkle a little Jeremy Hefner
Speaker 1: magic dust on and he turns into a star and
Speaker 1: some of them work. Not saying don't do that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they're not all going to work. And if
Speaker 1: you have a year like last year and then this
Speaker 1: year a few of them don't pan out, boom here
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I don't think they'll I don't
Speaker 3: know I guess. I guess if this year doesn't pan
Speaker 3: out the way he wants it to, maybe he'll revisit it.
Speaker 3: But there's contracts that are not the Frankie Montas sized
Speaker 3: contracts and not the Corbyn Burns contracts. There's stuff in
Speaker 3: the middle, like if you remember Zach Wheeler came over
Speaker 3: to the Phillies a few years ago for you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred million. I think he'll dip his toe in there.
Speaker 3: But some guys just really are afraid of that six
Speaker 3: to eight year contract for thirty five to forty million
Speaker 3: may have to change though, because you need that horse.
Speaker 3: You need a guy every five days to give everybody
Speaker 3: in a pan of blow yep.
Speaker 1: I should have signed Foravetta.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: We have some stat Cast numbers that were pointed out. Man,
Speaker 1: I forget who tweeted it, but it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Oh here Red sox Enjoyer I think was the one
Speaker 1: who put out some of the all timers stat Cast numbers.
Speaker 1: So I think the stat cast era is since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I want to say, you know, it's funny we used
Speaker 1: to not be allowed to say stat castra. They wanted
Speaker 1: us to say since stat cast started or something.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a MLB thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask. Anyway, we can show you some of
Speaker 1: the red and who's on the leader board if we
Speaker 1: have it there. It is Batting run value judge from
Speaker 1: twenty four Billy Hamilton still has the top base running
Speaker 1: value number from twenty sixteen. Fielding run value number is
Speaker 1: Posey in twenty sixteen. Most out out above average range
Speaker 1: wise Nick Ahmed twenty eighteen. Thirty four plus thirty four.
Speaker 1: Arm value was Adam Eaton in twenty sixteen. Armed strength
Speaker 1: was O'Neil Cruz. Last year sprint speed Byron Buxton in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, tied with Victor Roeblace in twenty seventeen. I
Speaker 1: don't have time to read all of the others on here,
Speaker 1: but a lot of Aaron Judge and Luis Arise Arise
Speaker 1: for contact Judge for strength. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look at the one that Alex Avila
Speaker 3: is on La sweet Spot.
Speaker 1: Launching Laundjangle sweet Spot.
Speaker 3: So that's good.
Speaker 2: I guess I think it's going, but I think it's cool.
Speaker 3: But it's not anything. It's not anything we didn't know.
Speaker 3: That's why I was looking at all that stuff like
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you knew those guys were all going
Speaker 3: to be at the top. I didn't know when That's cool.
Speaker 3: Was the Byron Buckson. We talked about it the other day.
Speaker 3: Byron Buckson's just more faster than Simpson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, than Chandler Simpson. That's true.