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Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week four Giants hang out, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Cresstrown. My name is Madelenburg, joined by Russ

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Speaker 1: Salzburg and Matt Sideteking guys, Giants coming in to a

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Speaker 1: short week off a win and a great win on

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Speaker 1: the road. At that Giants beating the Browns rush. There's

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Speaker 1: so much to take away from this game getting in

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Speaker 1: the end zone. I can see how excited you were

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Speaker 1: already talking about this. Where where is your point of

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Speaker 1: emphasis and what you saw from this team in week

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Speaker 1: three that you said, okay, now the ero is pointing up.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, two things I could be happier

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Speaker 2: for anybody than the Giants, the players themselves and the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff because they got the win. But what the

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Speaker 2: Giants did. They came up. I was very impressed with

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Speaker 2: the defense because the defense had a rough game the

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Speaker 2: game before, they were carved up on the ground. We

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Speaker 2: were talking about a pass rush. Well, talking about a

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Speaker 2: pass rush. They came up with eight sacks. I mean

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Speaker 2: your edge rushers, Cavevon and Burns with terrific Dexter was terrific.

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Speaker 2: That was great and Daniel, you know, listen, we know

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Speaker 2: what neighbors is when the Giants got them, we knew

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Speaker 2: what they were getting. As Dave's described him, Madeline, he's

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Speaker 2: adult bug. What was Daniels seventeen of nineteen in the

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Speaker 2: first half? And what I really liked about even the

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Speaker 2: game plan, guys, is that you know, he was getting

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Speaker 2: rid of the ball quickly and the screens were making

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Speaker 2: the defense go from side to side with the Browns,

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Speaker 2: and what he was doing, what the game plan was doing,

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Speaker 2: was keeping their defense off balance. Yeah, was it perfect. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know we're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: But the imperfect things didn't override the perfect things, so

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Speaker 2: they got to win. That was the most important thing.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to add.

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Speaker 4: I think, for me, the perhaps the most impressive thing

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Speaker 4: of the entire game, and coach Dable spoke about this,

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Speaker 4: a lot of the player spoke about this after the game.

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Speaker 4: Was just the resiliency that the team showed. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this game against the Browns could not have gotten off

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Speaker 4: to a worse start with the fumble on the kickoff

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Speaker 4: return touchdown on the very first play for the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Eleven seconds in, Giants got the ball first, and eleven

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Speaker 4: seconds into the game they're down seven to nothing, and

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Speaker 4: they did not let this phase them. They you know,

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Speaker 4: that first drive that they got the ball back, they

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Speaker 4: did end up punting it, but then they got to

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Speaker 4: stop right away on defense. And then the following drive

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Speaker 4: they put together a thirteen play eighty one yard drive

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Speaker 4: for a touchdown, and you know, a two I think

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Speaker 4: it was two drives later they put together a ninety

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Speaker 4: three yard drive. And what made this so impressive was

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Speaker 4: the fact that this was going up against a Browns

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Speaker 4: defense that is an elite unit. You know, it may

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Speaker 4: not be quite up to the same level as it

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Speaker 4: was performing last year, but going back to the start

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Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty three season, no defense has been

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Speaker 3: Than the Cleveland Browns defense. They they had given up.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fifty yards fewer than any other team

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Speaker 4: when they were playing at home, and the Giants went

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Speaker 4: and I think it was around three hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: total yards of offense. The passing game got going with

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones Devin Singletary, although you know, he did lose

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Speaker 4: a fumble for the second executive week, which that is

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Speaker 4: not great, but he still put together a very strong

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Speaker 4: game and I think it's kind of underrated. How solid

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Speaker 4: of a season Devin Singletary has already gotten off to.

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Speaker 4: He's averaging like four point seven yards per carry. He's

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Speaker 4: forcing miss tackles. He leads the NFL and miss tackles forced.

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Speaker 4: No one wants to talk about that, but that is

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Speaker 4: that is fact. He's getting eighty yards after contact. He's

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Speaker 4: just been very solid in everything that the Giants could

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Speaker 4: hope for when they sign him in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned to his help and pass protection. Right, He's

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Speaker 1: not afraid to get in there and throw a block,

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Speaker 1: which has been really helpful in getting Daniel Jones some

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Speaker 1: time to get the battle of Elak Neighbors who you know.

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Speaker 1: Neighbors became the first player in NFL history with twenty

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Speaker 1: receptions and three receiving touchdowns in their first three games.

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Speaker 1: He became the youngest player in NFL history to have

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns in a game. He did that in the

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Speaker 1: first half against Cleveland. But one thing that I thought

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Speaker 1: was interesting is, you know the Browns defense, they were

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Speaker 1: was just like, all right, I'm gonna go line up

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Speaker 1: the second half it was a little bit more that

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Speaker 1: would imagine that other teams as the season progresses, are

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Speaker 1: taking notice at this young rookie and saying, Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. We might want to put our top guy

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Speaker 2: No, you know, you also were talking about resiliency. It

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Speaker 2: got brought up, and one of the things that seemed

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Speaker 2: but overshadowed in the game, which I thought was huge.

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Speaker 2: I thought in the it was I think it was

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Speaker 2: midway in the first quarter on a fourth and one

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Speaker 2: from their own forty three. Brownryan Dable went for a

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Speaker 2: fourth and one on his own forty three and let

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Speaker 2: me tell you, that sent the message to the team

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Speaker 2: that I believe in my guys. That sent the message

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Speaker 2: to everybody, and that was part of the resiliency they

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Speaker 2: didn't bet.

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Speaker 1: That reminded me too of that Week one of twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: They went forward on fourth down on that opening drive

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Speaker 1: and Brian Dablieven said, he goes, you trust your players.

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Speaker 1: It opens up the playbook a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was, like you say, with seven to

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Speaker 2: nothing at the time, they're on their own forty three.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was a gutsy call. I liked

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Speaker 2: the call, but and you know how it goes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, then everybody's screaming. But I mean, Matt,

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Speaker 2: you brought up the word resiliency. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: add a little humor to this. Here. I am watching

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Speaker 2: the game. Literally walked into the kitchen to get something

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Speaker 2: out of the fridge. I walked back into the family room.

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Speaker 2: I missed the kickoff and they were down. I actually

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Speaker 2: saw the touchdown to put them down seven to nothing,

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Speaker 2: and I said, oh, this is not one of those

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Speaker 2: Murphy Laws game. What can go wrong will go wrong.

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Speaker 2: But they showed resiliency, they didn't back down it. I

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Speaker 2: just thought there was improvement all across the board. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we mentioned Devin Singletary's fumble, and that has to be corrected.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that will be spoken about. But he's a

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Speaker 2: veteran player, he's a good, solid player. I thought the

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Speaker 2: way the defense responded from the week before, getting the

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Speaker 2: pass rush that they needed. It was just really good.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else we keep you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody you read about it and hear about it. Everybody

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Speaker 2: likes to talk about what Joe's Shane said in Hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks about getting this guy getting that guy. The one

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Speaker 2: thing Joe Shane said also in Hard Knocks was we

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Speaker 2: got to get the quarterback help. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: they got him, Elik Neighbors, and they got them an

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Speaker 2: offensive line. Yeah, you know what, we haven't spoken about

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Speaker 2: the offensive line yet. Offensive line was good. Daniel was

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Speaker 2: very good in the pocket. He was moving around, he

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Speaker 2: was poised, he was comfortable, he didn't have a nervous feet.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pluses going into Thursday night

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the Giants offensive line, they only allowed

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to get sacked twice. And he seemed also

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Speaker 1: more comfortable and more decisive in that way and the

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Speaker 1: way that he rolled out, the way that he was

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Speaker 1: quick with his decision making. It was really helpful.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 1: You brought up Devin Singletary. A great performance by him

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Speaker 1: once again going in on a short week against the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, whose run defense is not exactly elite. What

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Speaker 1: kind of a matchup is that. I mean, Devin Singletary's

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Speaker 1: got to be watching that tape and they've been thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we go, we gotta run the ball. But Tea that's

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Speaker 1: you know, not really been heavy, heavily relyant on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, every matchup that the Giants have against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: we all know it's gonna be tough. The Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 4: have won what is it, twelve of the last thirteen games,

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Speaker 4: thirteen to last fourteen, Like they've dominated this series. But

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the Giants getting to face the Dallas

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Speaker 4: team that I guess is coming off such a rough

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Speaker 4: two week stretch. And yeah, you brought up the run game.

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Speaker 4: Their run defense has just been getting dashed, especially these

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Speaker 4: last two weeks. I mean we're only three games into

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Speaker 4: the season, but the Dallas Cowboys have the number thirty

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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens, which granted they do have the duo

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Speaker 4: two of those guys led a rushing attack that had

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Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy four rushing yards against the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: just a couple of days ago, and you know, Dallas

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Speaker 4: is definitely gonna want to try to wipe that memory clean,

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Speaker 4: and you know they're moving on.

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Speaker 3: To this week.

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Speaker 4: But this is a great opportunity for the Giants to

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Speaker 4: continue to establish the run with Devin Singletary. And now

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Speaker 4: we you know, we brought up the fumble before. It's

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Speaker 4: two in the last two games, which definitely needs to

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Speaker 4: be corrected. But outside of those two fumbles, Devin Singletary

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Speaker 4: has just been a rock solid veteran addition to this offense,

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Speaker 4: clearly helping both the run game and the pass game.

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Speaker 4: And Madeline, you brought up his performance in pass protection.

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Speaker 4: He was pass blocking I believe it was fourteen plays

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Speaker 4: against the Browns, didn't give up a single pressure, which

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Speaker 4: was similar to what we saw in the first two weeks.

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Speaker 4: He also had his best game as a receiver this

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Speaker 4: past week, had four catches for forty three yards. So

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Speaker 4: he's really playing a big role in this offense and

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Speaker 4: establishing the run and getting the run going open things

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Speaker 4: up for Daniel Jones, Beliek Nighbors and the passing attack.

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Speaker 4: So they if they can start establishing the run early

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Speaker 4: on and you know, show the Cowboys. You can't just

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Speaker 4: you know, double molik every play. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: respect Devin Singletary in this run game. Then that's gonna

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Speaker 4: suit up set up well for the Giants passing attack.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you're right, Matp. But it also works in

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Speaker 2: the reverse way. If your passing game is working. Conversely,

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Speaker 2: that sets up your run game as well. It goes

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the hip bones connected to the thigh

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Speaker 2: bone and blah blah blah. But it's true. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do we always hear from Coach Stable complementary football.

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Speaker 2: If you set up that pass game, that's gonna help

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Speaker 2: your run game. If you set up your run game,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna help with the pass game. Had on back

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Speaker 2: to what we started at the beginning. I just the

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Speaker 2: way Daniel was getting the first of all, he was

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Speaker 2: getting a ball out quickly, The screens work were working

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Speaker 2: real fast, and he was making the defense go side

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Speaker 2: the side, which was keeping the Brownie fans off balance.

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if we're going to see more

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Speaker 2: of the same thing Thursday night at at Mett Life.

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Speaker 4: Ri Oh, sorry, is just going to just add on

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Speaker 4: about Daniel Jones. I don't think he's getting honestly enough

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Speaker 4: respect for what he just did. On Sunday, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: It was his highest passer rating yet passerrating a one

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Speaker 1: You're by of completions in the first half. Seventeen completions

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Speaker 3: Add that to the list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen of nineteen for one hundred and seventy eight

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Speaker 4: So if Daniel Jones is going to be able to

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Speaker 3: If he's able to.

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Speaker 4: this passing game, you know, the sky is the.

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Speaker 3: The the potential is through the roof.

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Speaker 4: Like with Malik Neighbors and Daniel Jones, it's confident in

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Speaker 3: There's no saying what this passing offense can do well.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked a lot about the Giants offense with

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Speaker 1: this Giants defense has got, you know, a tall task

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: For me with when it comes to the Giants defense,

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Speaker 4: that's that's twofold. Starting with the pass rush, which you

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Speaker 4: not sure what date you said before, Madeline, but the

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Speaker 4: eight sacks was the most the defense has had.

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Speaker 3: In nearly ten years.

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Speaker 4: There was a game in December of twenty fourteen where

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Speaker 3: Decade so against the Browns against the Titans. Oh close, AFC.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been literally nearly a decade since the

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Speaker 4: But the most impressive part to me was Shane Bowen.

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Speaker 4: You know, I have to tip my cat to him

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Speaker 4: because you know, he came to the Giants with this

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Speaker 3: I mean he was sending blitzes on over half of the.

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Speaker 3: And did the exact opposite. So kudos to Shane Bowen.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have to come up with a creative game

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Speaker 4: the Giants have actually blitzed.

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Speaker 3: I believe they're like top five in blitzer rate in the.

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Speaker 4: Shane Bowen is going to have to come up with

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Speaker 4: in the secondary. At least for Monday's walk through, Drew

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Speaker 4: Phillips anda Dori Jackson did not participate in practice, and

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Speaker 3: In slowing down that star receiver.

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Speaker 1: We saw some of his creativity dropping Brian Burns back

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Speaker 1: You're right, he's gonna have to definitely get creative, drawn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you talk about Shane Bone. What I

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Speaker 2: loved about his game plan when I watched him. When

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Speaker 2: And I thought the defense, I'm not saying they were

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Speaker 2: They were attacking with an attitude, let's take care of business.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this guy, and they have to you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: it's a tall order doing it against the Don't look

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Speaker 2: game plan the same way. You know, do it, as

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Speaker 2: I say, with bad intentions, where you want to mean

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's tough to add the next opponent, right for sure.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just adding one last thing quickly to what

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Speaker 4: past Sunday against the Browns, the Giants blitzed Browns twenty

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Speaker 4: a fun statistic. Through the first three games, Dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: So I would not be surprised if Shane Bowen and

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Speaker 4: the Giants defense are sending blitzes more often than not

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Speaker 4: this Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The thing I love about a short week is we've

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Speaker 1: only got a couple more sleeps until we have more

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Speaker 1: Giants football, and that is an incredible thing. That's a

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Speaker 1: wrap for our week four Giants Hangout brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Crestaurant for Russ Salzburg and Matt Sytek and Madelen

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