WEBVTT - Episode 134 w/ Faith Evans 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.920 And his drink chats, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.279 He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.560 Miami hippoper, mioneer up his dj e FN together they 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.520 drinking up with some of the biggest players in the 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.080 most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:36.720 drunk drinks. Motherfuckings New year' z. That's time for drink chance, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:45.479 trink up, mother mother. What a good be hoping. He 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:46.920 is what it should be. This is your boy and 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.800 what his dj EF his drink chas motherfucking happy hour, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.960 make some And we got one of the queens of 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.400 the culture in the building right now. When I say queen, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.560 I'm talking about really Queen Royalty, married to the King, 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.480 came in this game on her own, did what she 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.360 had to do, still surviving, still just dropped the album 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.800 The King and I And if the case you didn't 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.559 know who I'm talking about, we told my motherfucking faith, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:25.679 let me fast fast. So listen, we had the season 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:31.319 on here, seasons running around here, and he said, like 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.520 he's traumatized. He can't even smoke weed anymore, because he 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.600 said big they to smoke so much weed with him? 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:47.440 Are you anywhere there that I'm not traumatized, but I 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.800 might be near with the higher tolerance like big, but 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.040 I'm not quite as bad because back then, like he, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.280 it would be a room full of us and like 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.200 hear anybody like you know, he had the hat as 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.400 he wants to, you know, a big blunt, put hash 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.600 in it. And then if you ain't smoking the hash blunt, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.200 you gotta get out. If you fall asleep, you gotta 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.239 get out, like you know, you gotta get high, like 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.480 you ain't getting hot, you gotta get I'm not that bad, right, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:26.800 So now your originally you're from Jersey? Correct? From the bricks? 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:30.000 I got a friend big up say, on Clinton Avenue. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.400 It's very rough for that. I went to school actually 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.239 with my high school, but I went to school on 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.320 Clinton and Clinton Avenue and Clinton Place. So how does 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.320 your girl from Jersey link up a bad boy? How? 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.919 How did how did this this stuff? Was? This always 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.840 been your dream was to be a singer or well 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.480 a singer. Yes, I say, I've been singing since I 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.880 was like two years old, you know, since I could 0:02:53.919 --> 0:03:00.560 basically talk. But my initial my initial audience was in 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.480 church and The first song I actually sang when it's 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.000 like when I was like three, was a song from 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.840 the flint Stones. I guess you know the Flintstones. I 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.920 remember in the Jackson's was like my favorite. No, it 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.560 was a song, Okay, you remember the episode when Bam 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.920 Bam and Pebbles performed that something that was like the 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:21.720 Hollywood Bowl, you remember, so we were on the same 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:26.600 mates and then they sang Atlanta Sunshine. That that was 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:36.080 my first song I sang in church. So I mean, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.320 over the years, I knew I had a gift with singing, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.480 and then later on I just started as a hobby 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.680 writing music. But I never knew I was gonna be 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.160 a re courting artists. I knew I wanted to make 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.760 money with my voice somehow, but the whole being a 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.240 signed artist to a label and not even in nothing 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.160 to do with church. You know, I sang another places, school, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:04:00.320 I sang every way I could church. A lot of 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.560 people choirs over the church, and then you know why 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.400 to learn that church is kind of like ill because 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.920 it's either like you're either really good or you're like 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.480 really bad, and like people like people like you can't 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.560 you can't really say it you can't really say jerom 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:21.080 if you need to stop jeroe yourself saying with jero, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.680 you can't really do that in church, you know what 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.160 I'm saying. But so it's either you're really good really 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.000 So how did how did you what made you want 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.320 to say this is gonna be a professional thing? Because 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.840 all of us know that, all of us successful artists 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.640 know that when we start out as a as a 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.000 striving artist, it's not a lot of money. So it's 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.760 it's a lot of it's a lot of what is 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.039 it de motivation not not motivation at first when you 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.440 first started. So how did you transition to say like, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.280 I'm gonna stick with this, I'm gonna make this work. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.280 You know what, It's crazy because I mean church wasn't 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.679 my only thing. Like I sang. I was the singer 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.120 with my jazz man in school, I did wedding students. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.240 When I meant want to page it or two, I 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.000 just wanted to sing. And just so happens. You know, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.640 a few people I knew got uh in the industry, 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.680 but I still was just singing everywhere. That was. It 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.680 was just about singing. Later on, when I recorded and 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.120 taught myself how to arrange records and produce myself, not 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.039 even knowing that would have anything to do with my 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.040 career later won't pretty much. I mean, by the time 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.440 I met Puck, I'm a fast forward. Red Man. One 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.680 of my best friends is rosing Over. Red Man's sister. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.960 Red was my boyfriend when I was in the ninth grade. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:36.680 So like when I heard y'all in the business always 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.559 some of my sessions and checked on me and stuff 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.440 like that. But right before red Kind, he was a 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.240 drummer in church when we met, you know, he was 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.880 still he was DJ and sself like prior to Eric, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.159 and I'm kind of going to meet meeting him in 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.320 sensations and kind of discovering him in that sense. But 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.160 I was just always around it. My daughter's father actually, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.680 he was a producer and he became a producer with 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.360 Christopher Wims, so I at she graduated from high school 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:12.040 william New York City. So I was around it. And 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.359 I actually left my full scholarship at Fordham University, my 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:20.039 academics because my daughter's father told me to move to 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.800 California with him. And yeah, had nothing to do with 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.520 me being an artist. But I got pregnant and you 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.080 know whatever, it just sounded way more fun than living 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:34.120 in Nork and get to the track. Nonetheless, by that time, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.919 I was already kind of like super dope at just 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.720 a hobby recording myself. I had already been seeing everywhere. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.880 But I met this dude yourself as well. I was 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.240 in the gospel group, and we made a couple of 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.120 a B side right because you know, but this is 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.400 when I'm like thirteen fourteen. But the dude that recorded 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.920 us was the lady's nephew. Let me just tell you 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.200 how God works. I ended up right off a Fordham row, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.240 right off a grand concourse. I didn't know I was 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.599 gonna end up going for them university on the full scholarship. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.200 Then when I was third team, four team, just so happens, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.520 I get this full scholarship after my classes, which I was, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.480 you know, I gotta go because I got the scholarship. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.800 I would always go to the dude's house. I used 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.760 to get woomans for sneaking out the window to go 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.720 to this studio in the Bronx before I was of 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.880 age to really be doing it. So I really knew 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.840 how to record myself. Like I said, produced myself stacked 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.600 my vocals because he taught me how to use that 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.000 little task camp thing when you could go straight to 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.120 the cassette to work with. So by the time I 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.640 met Puff, I mean it was really I was just 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.239 the ride as my daughter's father. I was his ride 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.559 to the studio and waiting in the lounge and Puff 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.800 was working on his first album and he needed somebody 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.160 to see this part. And it was like she could say, 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.320 you know, and I went in there murdered it like 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.680 I stacked. It was like Mr Puffy, excuse me? Can 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.600 I changed around and I've made I murked it. I 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.720 know I did. As soon as I came out the booth, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.360 he was like, you want to sign up my new label? 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.360 And I wasn't there for that at all. I know, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.440 I had on the church girl outfit or something like. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.520 I wasn't like, yeah, that wasn't like my thing. It's 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.080 like if it happens that way, okay. So I had 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.640 worked with I'll be sure prior to that. But he know, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.560 he bade me just to do his demos. But again, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.400 I was just there when my daughter's father he heard 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.760 me singing on the tape and like, oh ship, that's you, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.680 like come up my ship up. So it was just 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.800 I was in that place at that time. But wherever 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.000 it was that I was gonna sing and make some money, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.720 it's kind of where I want to be, whether it 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.960 was in a professional recording sense or at a wedding 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.480 or a retirement party. You know what I'm saying. All Right, Okay? 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:33.600 In the movie right Big Big walks out of the room, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.600 and I believe Puff says, I'm gonna meet my meet 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.000 my artist. So you was already signed to a bad 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.280 Boy prior to you even know him. Big was on 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.280 that label. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Ben didn't know me either. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.280 I think when we finally met at that it was 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.679 like this photo shoot because Monty Big had signed to 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.880 bad Boy when Puff was still at Uptown. UM Total 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.400 was signed before me as well, but and Craig mac. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.800 But when I remember um being, I mean Puff had 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.160 this photo shoot. I had already worked on Usher's first album, 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.600 Marries My Life album. So while I was negotiating, when 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.000 I was doing backgrounds and arrangements, like I was writing 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.719 stuff and laying the demo, and most of the time 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.000 he would keep my backgrounds that I laid down. That 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.200 was like on Usher's first album and then marries My 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:27.560 Life albums, so that's still publishing. You get absolutely publishing 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:33.040 and that after AFM honey with them. But yeah, during 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.280 this time, I was negotiating my deal with Bad Boy Records. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.280 So by the time, you know, Pop had his this 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.240 first photo shoot with his new artist. It ended up 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.440 just being me, Big and Craig Mac at the photo shoot. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.439 I don't even remember. I don't think total made it right. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.360 It was just us three and that's where me and 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.440 b first met. And he said he has seen me 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.120 coming in and out the near fact, because back then, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.640 you know, Puff would have like the whole every home, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.240 you know, somebody working on something different that he's you know, facilitating. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.800 Big said he thought I was like a session singer, 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.280 you know, because he saw me going in and out 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.280 of session. We didn't know I was an artist on 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:08.400 the labeling, like somebody that kind of just got paid 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.040 to do backgrounds, which I kind of was getting paid 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.800 to do that. But I wasn't there as a session thing. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.840 I was writing. I just was laying down and stuff that, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:23.960 you know what I mean. But that's double checks. Hey, okay, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:29.079 so um so he sings from the background the vocals 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.160 you're writing, And how is this that had that approach 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.120 when they come to you and they say, we would 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.600 like you to be an artist. Was you expecting that 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.640 that was something you didn't hear me when I was 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.800 at that first session with my daughter's father for Ussher 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.000 and he needed someone to sing that part. As soon 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.400 as I walked out the booth, he asked me that 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.560 I want to sign his new label. It's just that 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.439 in the time of him working out my deal, he 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.679 was also having me right and work on USh You 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.760 and Mary's album before I actually got to working on 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.160 my first project. Yeah, so I was, you know, working 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.360 on doing other things. I actually started working on my 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.440 first album, and because Puff really wasn't known at that time. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.920 He was known, but he wasn't like what made you 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.959 put your trust in him? Well, you know what, it's 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.240 crazy because I knew nothing about the industry like that. Yeah. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.240 I had a few friends that you know, kind of 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.320 made it or got signed and became successful. But um, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.520 it's crazy because when I tell the story, I remember 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:22.880 when I came out and he was like, you want 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.520 to sign I'm like it really And he started writing 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.400 down numbers like we're about to work out a deal 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.800 right then, Like I'm like, oh, and it just so happens. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.240 I have met this attorney who ended up being my 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.120 first attorney. UM in the industry. I met him when 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.080 I was writing with this producer from Jersey and the media. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.800 I was like, I got a lawyer, Like you better 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.120 I'm not about to work out the deal right now. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.800 But nonetheless, um, you know, it was just it was cool. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.240 But it was like, on one hand, like, Okay, I 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.160 mean you're serious. But on the other hand, don't even 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.600 play me, like, don't think. I don't think I'm about 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.600 to do that right here right now, you know, don't 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.320 get me on. It was you know, it was all 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.360 new to him too, but I mean, it was a 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:00.640 great thing to be a part of it. When I 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.320 talked to my lawyer, he was like, well, I mean, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.640 and ain't like I had not not so on to 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.920 take what I wasn't even out searching to get this 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.840 type of thing, don't I'll be sure. I kinda was, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.360 you know, dancing with the idea of getting getting me 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.360 signed on his little imprint. But you know, it wasn't 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.080 something that I was that's all I wanted to do. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.960 I was like whatever, if I could make some money 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.200 and if I feel like it's gonna work out good, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.280 you know maybe, But it was just something concrete, and 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.840 it was I heard a little buzz about him. And 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:34.319 another side board to that story is sidebar mesa justice mother. Correct, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.280 she used to come to my church. One of her 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.079 cousins was best friends with my cousin in Jersey. So 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.960 Misa used to visit my right and it's so crazy, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.680 I'm like twit over Leven and they knew she was 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.560 like dating this guy, pump Daddy. I think he was 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.079 still in you know, Howard or whatever. I don't know 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.160 how old I was, but we knew that she was 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.920 dating this puff daddy guy. I didn't know who he 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.200 really was, you know. Fast forward how eight years later 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.960 I didn't think. I never knew I was gonna be 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.480 on to this man's label. So immediately she was kind 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.600 of one of my first confidence, one of the first 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.560 people that kind of really embraced me because we already 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.760 were familiar with each other just from her seeing me 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.760 singing in my church. So when I was like, oh 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.720 my god, she's like faith from New Jersey, Like I 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.840 know her from my cousin's church. You know that's my 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.880 cousin too. It so immediately like, that's my cousin. So 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.000 we were always pretty close from my entry into the 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.959 actual business, you know, me and me, so so that's 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.719 kind of how our relationship goes back. But it was 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.760 very random. I never you know, it's full circle, but 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.280 you never know the plans that God has for you. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.439 You know, what was the first time that you got 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.960 into the industry and you was like disappointed? When because 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.520 because you know, we're all lied to what we expect 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.520 and what we're supposed to and then when we finally 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.840 realized it, it's like it's a it's a kick in 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.920 your throat. It's like, so, when when was it? When 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.920 was the first time you got disappointed? Like when you 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.560 realize the industry that you're really in. Than that's a 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.080 good question, but quite a hard one, you know, and 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.160 go on, you know who you're talking to the sh 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:08.160 out of a bit, like the first time. I mean, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.120 tell you my first time I think about it, Okay, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.320 I'll tell you my first time. My first time was 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.520 realizing that this was a business. Like I always thought 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.800 that I could just trust my friend or trust forever 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.200 and when I realized that I had to actually like 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.400 read the contracts and go over things and the person's 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.920 word wasn't good. Like that was the first time I 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.640 kicked myself in the ass, and I was like, why 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.640 have my head? Okay, you know, I think, okay, you 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.320 know what, Thank you because that kind of helped me 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.120 in the direction of where I can't go because there's 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.800 many things I can say. But I think one of 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.360 my first subconscious disappointments, whether I really was able to 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.240 handle it or change it or express it or not, 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.600 probably seeing my percentage I got on stuff that I 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.440 wrote on for other people, right, And but you know, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.160 if you're that's something I learned over the years, how 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.760 to really even understand and get clear on those splits 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.040 you know what I'm saying beforehand and all that stuff 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.280 that you got a factor in samples, So was like 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.160 and it wasn't my project to begin with, so I 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.920 definitely wasn't the one choosing how much. But I'm like, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.560 I wrote the whole bridge and half a hook, and 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.200 I'm like, point oh, oh, like you know what I'm 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.320 saying percent point zero zero six, like you know, but whatever, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.240 but yeah, something like that probably was my very initial disappointment. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.040 But then I realized, like, whoa, you didn't ask anybody 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.520 what was that going to be in the first place? 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.200 Or how you want drop that out? So, um, let 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.560 me ask you something like, um, when you when you 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:33.840 hear when you hear brothers battling, right, it can't it 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:38.040 can't sit right with you because you you've seen actual 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.000 battle battle like you've seen the worst of the worst. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.320 So when you see brothers like battling on on wax, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.400 what's the first thing you think of? Well, it depends 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.640 on if it's something that this is lyrically interesting, interesting 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.480 to me or not, because sometimes I'll be having to 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.200 catch up like, well, what are you mething about? What's 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.640 the song about? You know? Who said? What? Um? Man? 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.600 You know my kids or see Eason you know and 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.320 them might kind of how about like NAS and J 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.040 when you heard the and J. I mean, I think 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.440 it's okay when it's when it's just in the spirit 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.000 of um of competition, right. I don't really you know, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.520 I don't never judge people's creativity anyway. You ain't coming 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:23.000 at me. I think have you ever think that someone 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.640 that you ever think someone made a record? U? Coming 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.360 at you, do I think, well, I mean specifically, I 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.040 know my my ex husband God blessed dead, but Big did. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.160 And the thing is, in real life, he wasn't coming 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:39.080 at me. We were just come on, come on it. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.760 So this is a fun fact that this is a 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.760 you know, that whole everything, biggie, And there's so many misconceptions, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.200 but we laugh at certain things that only we kind 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.440 of know. Like what do you mean saying if faith 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:58.320 have twins, she probably had two. Yeah, I've had a 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.520 couple of things. Listen. Number one, my son c J. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.000 When I first found out I was pregnant, it was twins. Okay, okay. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.480 By the time I was four most pregnant, there was 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.159 like a disappearance something they called disappearing twins syndrome. So 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.600 the other, uh the other, you know, I'm something I 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:22.119 didn't develop. The other didn't developed right, Um, But Big 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.800 and I never had Big never question whether he you know, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.960 I was forgot about him later on, you know, because 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.840 I was so livid and I just never even you know, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.160 I just never addressed him to after CJ was born. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.359 And one I didn't even had to be He just 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.639 was crying one day looking at each and I'm my 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.600 friend was so mad at him, my best friend who 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.840 was my manager now, and she cursed him out, like 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.879 I just I'm the type Like it's like because if 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.280 I go here, I'm like, that's the girl that documentary. Yeah, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.040 Balyn and you said that you were big only to 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.680 stay there together for like two weeks and you looked 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.280 in the apartment. He was like like that you know 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.520 her mom Mary Flowers, Mary Flowers. That used to be 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:05.560 to promote you know, that was crazy because I see 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.200 the documentary of uncas. Yall sat down, y'all was eating 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.119 and I was talking about how this place you used 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.000 to go get this food, County House Country like so much. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.120 So what was that? Was a spot in Brooklyn? Yeah, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:21.359 twenty four hours, don't close. The whole point of that 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.159 scene was that big was mad greeting so we always 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.119 like she said, I've been thinking of Tim Mills and 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:31.160 it was pooring y'all, Like it was a big stuck 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.040 up on wild Ship. There's a show in the house. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:39.520 What I'm saying, like that girl, how does the house 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.480 a little Jersey girl, like just right into Brooklyn even 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:52.040 though it is the brick little Jersey, But how did 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.600 how did it? Because when I see y'all, like, I'm 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.800 not gonna lie to you, and of course I'm the 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.440 outside of looking in. But when I mean even seeing 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.360 y'all back to when I see y'all, it's like it's 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.200 like it just goes together, like I think be even 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.199 more so than how does the Jersey girl end up 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.120 in Brooklyn? Because that's their substories to that Big used 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.639 to be when we did meet, And you know, I 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.800 hear my way around around Brooklyn already because I used 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:27.320 to go to as a Kywalkers. I like, he like 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.439 what you're doing up in this Like I'm like, I 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.520 used to go to this rehearsal at the shirts drive 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.280 my homeboy to hear you know, I'm just so I'm 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.239 new Jersey Drive. That's my nickname. That's what they called me. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.119 But no, we I think it's more hot. Big and 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.439 I bind it. It was like our senses of humor, 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.080 you know, like they used to try and they always 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:46.879 joke on each other. And he tried to park on 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.840 me and I'm quick on the come back, you know, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:55.400 so I could beat Bond. I'm going to front our back, 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.440 Oh ship than we are? We are? We are not 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:04.359 you go back you normal? Okay, actually I got that 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.960 way to look. There's gonna dude about just start from 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.360 random souls. I don't want to know where your your 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.480 head was at, where your space was at when you 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.160 recorded this, when you wrote it. Whatever. Honestly, I'm gonna start. Yeah, 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:25.280 you gonna see your brother last time. When I listened 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.040 back to that episode, I was like, dah, they said 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:35.560 she's got smoke listed smokes, So I'm gonna throw um. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:36.959 I want to know where you was at, where your 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:48.720 head was at when you wrote um. I remember that 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.919 your first girl talk into the industry. That was my 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.920 first single, but I believe that may have been man 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.960 I have been no, no, no, it wasn't for Mary. 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.840 This may have been the first off checking song I 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.520 actually recorded when I finally started working on my album. 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.960 But the great thing of the story about that record, 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:08.560 I remember when I got the hook like it was 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.119 a and Pile was like this too, Like sometimes you 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.760 just you ain't even want to come to the session 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.879 because you just wanted to finish it. No shame, you 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:18.760 don't even want to get this input. And a lot 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.120 of time it was just like I want to finished, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.280 you know, before you told me what else to do 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.800 before you say what you think about it. But I 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.840 knew when I finished that hook, I called him like, 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.199 come listen, and he called almost everybody that was in 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.919 any studio in the city to come and listen and 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.159 so but at the time, you know, I was I'm 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.320 super shock. I'm so used to recording by myself, so 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.640 when people staring at me and I had to kind 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.280 of finish it for everybody, was like, from Andre to 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.520 Michael Bivens to this, like everybody just came through because 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.280 he was like, Yo, come listen to this joint my 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.479 new artist. So I kind of knew it was like 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:55.920 the ship, like everybody, this is big thinking that why 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.960 we're wanting each other's sessions. A whole lot a lot 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.439 of this stuff was recorded already by the time I 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:07.760 came around. Who produced that, Chuck Thompson and that that 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.320 was like an introduction to the my headspace was. I 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.399 was excited. It was like a way for me to 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.000 mess my church harmonies that I learned from the Clock 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.000 Sisters over a hot ass beat, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.919 So it's a classic. It was then I used to 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.280 make stuff off off the top of my head. Now 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.160 I'll be thinking a lot harder about it. But I mean, 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.000 it was just it was it just came out right. 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:29.760 You know, it was meant to be that way. You 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.520 had that something too. I don't know if you remember. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.959 I don't remember driving over the bridge in Brooklyn by 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.720 myself when I first heard flex dropping blobs and I'm 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:45.040 just crying, like thank you. A lot of a lot 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.080 of people don't understand or can't described the first time 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.679 you hear yourself on the radio. That gotta be like 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.959 like like a crivalent to like busting your first night. 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:58.960 I mean, like, I mean, I gotta be real with that, 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:04.000 Like I'm such a sucker nowadays. I heard your radio 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:05.640 the other day and they played one of my old 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.680 joys and I was like, fuck that ship, and the 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.639 old me just snuffed me, Like what the fun is? 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.840 You're just saying, are you still well? I mean, that's 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.560 that's different. You're a hip hop parties, what I mean. 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.440 You know, most of the time I'm hearing my classic stuff, 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.800 So it's not like I expect to hear my independent 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.000 records on the radio, to be quite honest, unless it 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.960 might be a Santimite station. That'd be like, I like 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.600 this joy, but you know, I hear my that I 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.280 perform all my classic stuff and that's the ship they think. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.679 Is No, that's what girls on the crowd like. Now 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.639 she's still come on the run in between hip hop. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.480 I don't know if you know he got to rock 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:53.480 the bell. It's not an old classic. Is actually pick 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.920 you up. I got to the party, to the launch party. 0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:02.680 But yeah, listen to that station though. You know, but 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:04.639 I'd like to think we kind of inspired that with 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.200 Drink Chance because Drink chats. We are the people that 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.359 have been in this game ten years or more, you know, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.880 the new guys, they got their own platform you could 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:13.560 go to, you know, the hot do these sevens of 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.320 the power one on fis. We want to praise people 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.720 who have time in this game. And you know, usually 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.240 when you have ten years or more in this game, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.800 people want to kick you out, people want to call 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.000 you oh, and that's not what the has happened. We're 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.399 not to happen. We are legends every other genre music. 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.119 They picked them up otter ten years, were allowed us 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:30.600 to happen in hip hop. You know what I'm saying. 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:36.280 So she said something right now she said, because you're 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.159 a hip hop artist and I feel like you're a 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.359 hip hop artist. No, I didn't mean that. I was 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:44.760 speaking specifically to him, talking about hearing songs on the 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:49.160 radio whereas my genre of music. Yeah, there was a time, 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.520 like he said, there was a time when the power 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.960 stations were playing what you considered classic R and B 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.560 artists we were I wasn't considered that, and even all 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.720 the way up until two thousand five. You know, in 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.840 the last ten years, it's been it's a huge shift. 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.480 But I'm not really I'm not mad at that, you 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.520 know what I'm saying, long as I'm getting played somewhere. 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.119 But my point was to like, you're more likely to 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:16.400 be hearing some rap stuff on a power station as 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.919 opposed to my brand. I yeah, I kind of slide 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:24.960 through because I got so many records outside movements in 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.800 hip hop music. So yeah, I kind of when you 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.720 came out, it was just it just had that hip 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.640 hop field exact it was. It was on the clue 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.439 about my music. But I meant specifically him being a rapper. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:42.000 That's kind of what I'm meant. Um, So what is 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.479 what are you listening to now? If we're going on 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.200 the car right now. What what are you listening to? Well, 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:59.919 um my, I'm so funny my iPod music, I lose Apple. 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:07.960 I'm keeping a new way. No guated, she still do 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:19.440 a little enjoyment. She's still that's not But I kind 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.400 of listened to classic stuff. I mean I do. There's 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.680 a lot of new artists that I appreciate, and and 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.800 you know, there's always just some new fresh talent out there. 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.000 I don't really, but I mean I know on heavy 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.040 rotation it's everything from like earth Wind and Fire to 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.200 your Nita Beaker to your mom's and the thought was, 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.199 just Stevie, wonder your shop up. I listened to so 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.280 much stuff. But then I also listened to a lot 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.080 of gospel music. I listened to a lot of jazz 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.639 music because I studied in saying jazz too when I 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.639 was in high school. So you know, I'm kind of 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.439 a little all across the board. My kids tend to 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.119 turn me onto um the artists that are kind of 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.679 like of the Mallenneial generation. If I don't already know 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:04.800 who they to see, I don't know what that heard 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:12.240 that man, That's how that's how everything sounds tonight. I 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:13.960 mean it's all though, that's it at all. It is 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.120 a few dot I don't A few are like would 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.920 you would you? Would you listen to him up? I 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.080 be listening that okay. TJ put me on a chance 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.440 to wrapp ups nothing. I started like a chance to 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.639 wrap up. Somebody knew how Sun and didn't he just 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.119 past And Danny loves her son too. Um, it's not 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:42.160 his son, that's just soundings. Yeah, don't glove his Sun. 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:50.359 Get the phone lead the weapon. That's what's leading the weapon, 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:56.679 the weapon that is his son. I like him though 0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:02.080 he liked him too. He's like him A good to 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.480 that record, goddamnit, super Dub. I listened to everything, but 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.160 of course I like you know, I like all the classics. Ship. 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.840 We didn't access to it now you don't have access 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.480 to Ship before. Now we could. We're on our tunes. 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.080 We're gonna listening, you know what I'm saying. Well as 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.240 you can plug us up. We were there. So you 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.199 don't like to take advantage of listening to the classic 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.879 shain't nothing like listening to the infamous Small first album 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.040 the first Ship. We'll change. First off, I'm saying, I 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.560 like to listen to classic Ship. That's a part of 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.639 my workout, Like I got my little my workout mixed 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.320 first of all includes all you just said, quiet storm 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:55.640 shook mines, Um, don't don't super dug do before. She's 0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:05.240 one of the homies mothers. That's we've been all night long. 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.800 How did you come up with that one? Well? I 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.680 was that song was inspired by church, So I was 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:22.400 kind of trying to think of a well, no, like 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.640 I was referring to like a church record in terms 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.880 of the tempo and the cadence. How would I approach 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.120 So it's a gospel record that kind of something like dan, 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.720 you know, dance when I think of what he's done, 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.880 I could dance all night. So it kind of was 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.920 inspired by that. We just kind of played around with 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:42.080 the melodies and lyrics. Yeah. I always kind of like, dang, 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:44.960 you know, this beat might remind me of this. What 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.480 song has the same tempo that has a slick little 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.160 cadence to it that I could kind of sen my 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.560 bite off of and make it my own. So so 0:29:54.760 --> 0:30:04.000 the church do Um, sometimes I refer to rap, I 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:10.080 mean you will, I'll be writing sometimes I'll be like, 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.280 you know, when he approached like you know that in 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.720 my time, and you know gave me some balls. Know 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.640 you from somewhere? I keep looking at you. What do 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:24.160 I know you from drink Champs? You know we got 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:29.400 drop the mixtape. No, we've done we met past. That's 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.960 what I got, right, Okay, Now you got the ultimate one, 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:41.400 oh makeup song in the world, like whenever anybody is 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:48.520 bad and anybody and she's always come at So I 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.840 want to hear her version though I can't think, you 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.960 know what horrible, but you know that's like the ultimate, 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.600 like like like when when something goes wrong in relationship, 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.120 that record has to play when you're making up? Do 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.360 you know that that wall? Ironically enough, I was hoping 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.080 when I wrote it it was in the spirit of 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.160 okay because um, you know, Dick was already signed. But 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.000 by the time we got married, and you know, I 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.120 got him to finally move out of his mom's house 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.480 and we moved in together, he went on the road immediately, 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.360 so we really didn't get a whole lot of time 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.800 to really, you know, spend together and making our home. 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.440 You know, I was kind of meeting up with him 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.760 on the road and still trying to get the house 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.400 set up. Still trying to work on my record. So 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.200 it was more from the perspective of this is something 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.680 that I wish he would be saying to me. That 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.560 was why that was really every I was like, I 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.880 wish he would be saying this to me, you know someone. Yeah, 0:31:54.800 --> 0:32:00.840 we didn't see the dreams. I definitely yeah. I mean 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:07.000 I've told this story before. Listen to no. I mean 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.800 that was really that. It was more like this is 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.320 what I want him to be saying. He was going 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.960 all the time, So it was like, damn, I'm you know, 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:21.960 trying my bad again. And this next one, this next 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.320 one is pretty much self explanatory. I'll be missing you. 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.080 But I got a chance to work with one twelve 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.600 and puff on that. Like, um, how did that record 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.960 come about? Obviously we know from on top of the minds, 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.920 but um how how how was this concept even like 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.360 you know, brought up well after Big Past, I didn't 0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.840 really want to do anything. I had probably started recording 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.400 my you know, I may have recorded one song on 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.760 my second album, um, but I kind of shut down. 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.320 I didn't really wanted to record. I didn't I refuse 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.440 to record at Daddy's house. When I finally did start 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.160 back with Court and I was just like every like 0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.320 everything you know. Um. But when puff up oas me 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.080 what the idea to do this tribute? You know, he 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.960 was like, I wanted to be the biggest tribute like 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.920 I'd ever done. And none of this came in my 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.760 mind about money and nothing. It was more about like 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.000 honoring big and he what he did say to make 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.480 me want to, you know, go on the studio was 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:17.040 I want, um the proceeds to go to the kids 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.320 to see j Antiana. So that's really what made me 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.680 do the record. Um, we didn't have this song at first. 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.320 The first time we went into record. What was meant 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:30.440 to be that tribute? You know that song? I'm sure 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.680 it's it might be how I'm elving in them? But 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:40.360 oh uh oh miss you, miss you. That was like 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.760 the loop they had and that ship was so sad 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:48.320 like it was just I'm like, we just quiet like 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.080 for three hours. Nobody came up with nothing, and then 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.680 I was like, I can't do like we I don't 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.440 think any of us like felt like we could do anything. 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.959 So the next day, um, maybe a day or too later, 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.480 when we came back to the studio, they had that 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.840 loop for the with the police thing, and it just 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.120 it just felt different, you know it was. It's like 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:13.200 in it you can hear where you can go lyrically 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.879 or melodically and express your pain, but it still felt 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.840 like a rejoy, like we can celebrate what he is 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.600 and what he is and wants to us, you know 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.080 what I'm like. So that's what it ended up being, Like, 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:24.840 let's make it feel like that. I don't want it 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:26.520 to feel so sad. I don't even know if I 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.200 could sing a couple of blonds on this other track, 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.719 like I was just crying like you know. So yeah, 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.759 it just felt a lot more celebratory when we came 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.880 in with the other track. Okay, so I'm actually two 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.040 more and then we're gonna go into the general joint 0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:48.800 love like this. Where was you a love like this? 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.800 Actually I was. I had just falling in love with 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.279 my ex, my ex my second husband tied, my ex 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.560 husband tied, and this was post I was still not 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.440 wanting to work at Daddy's house. But you know, I 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.040 was into my second album and I had fallen in love. 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.600 So that's really what that song was about. And definitely 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.640 not expectedly, you know, I didn't expect that to be 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:16.120 like so soon after going through something. But you know, 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:23.800 I fell in love with him, and that's hard. I 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:28.800 got a hard study, always took a classes like I 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.160 never knew that with you that I like everybody. You know, 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.400 people in certain countries think me if Thatt Man Scoop 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.080 is a group I do. Oh, you know what I mean? 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.719 I never places. I've never been like, who are they? 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:48.520 They're great? You still enjoyed the game? I got one 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.040 more song question, but I want to ask you a 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:57.600 questions still, I could assist that you really still enjoyed 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:02.480 the game. Yes, you know what I um because I 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.680 know how to um sustain, you know, and it's not 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.719 so much. I knew how to do it while it 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.680 was being done, but I realized that a god is 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.040 gonna always sustain me. I'm here for a reason. You know, 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.520 I couldn't whatever it is, however, many units like I've 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.960 never measured my success on those type of things. You 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.719 feel me because this is all I wouldn't saying flu 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.400 but this was not my plan. I'm like, I know 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:24.879 I can sing, I know I want to make money 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.279 doing it, you know, but I also knew you gotta brain, 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.200 so you gotta go to college. You gotta full academic scholarship, 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.000 you know, and should happened. But I'm just like, I 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.000 gotta figure it out. I'm a hustle. I have my daughter. 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.880 When I was like scholarship, I was in a resource 0:36:38.920 --> 0:37:04.200 froom girl, the resource like that's like, yeah, regular school, 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:17.440 that's a fact. So so. But because most people, most people, Um, 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:24.439 I get a great example. Uh, when Cameron and Jim 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:29.640 Jones was beefing, right, Cam had went, I believe Angie 0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:34.000 Martinez and he said, I don't know why Jim is mad, because, 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:39.919 um he's playing with house money. And to me, I thought, 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.359 I sat back, I said, we're all playing with house money. 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.120 So you know what I'm saying, because the thing about 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.680 it is we're not supposed to be where we're at 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.160 the level of success, even if it's a dis amount 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.920 of success. Even if it's dis amount of success, the 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.360 odds of us actually making it makes us all have 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.960 house money. You know What's what I'm saying. So I 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.640 always look at it. My Baudy should tell me, say, 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.680 look at the person for the positivity in the first 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.360 before you look for anything else. So I just always 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:09.920 look at it. I just always look at it like 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.000 you know the fact that we survived and we're doing 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:17.000 things that we love, like we're all. We're all, We're all. 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.960 I mean, back to your point, I definitely I don't 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.879 remember your word and burden, but I definitely enjoy the game, 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.680 so to speak. But I look at it like it's 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.359 just a facet of my life. You know what I'm saying. 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.719 I don't look at it's not you know what I'm saying, 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.759 like it's so much I don't take home with me. 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.440 But it's like, damn, I gotta kind of really sometimes 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.800 taking the perspective, you are someone who is popular to 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.040 some people, you have touch some people with your music. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.239 So but I don't walk out the house thinking that 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:47.960 just with that, like you know what I mean, I 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.360 don't even expect that i'd be really genuinely appreciate it 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.759 with somebody be like I love me, like really, oh 0:38:53.840 --> 0:39:02.160 my god, thing like like a I don't you don't. 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.239 I meant, come on, what if you don't know about me? So, 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:10.000 I mean, look, it's stupid. Everybody has that. But I mean, 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.200 I'm appreciative for the blessings that I've gotten from it, 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.680 but I know that I'm here for reasons other than 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.399 my musical gift. You know what I'm saying. I've learned 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.080 a lot and learned how to maneuver and how to 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.040 kind of just be chill. You know, they always be 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.440 telling me like, y'all, you've really taught me a lot 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.359 about that because you just be like you could be there, 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.320 you'd be like, no, it's not even worth it. You 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.560 should do this. You know. It's more chest not checkers. 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.320 You know what I'm saying. You gotta appreciate it. It 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.279 could be worse, you know what I'm saying. It's when 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.520 you aim to be. But we is something that we 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.719 never thought we could do. I never thought i'd be 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:44.680 a wrapper, my nigga. So I'll get an about blue 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.920 or not. I appreciate with where I went and where 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.280 I'm at now, if I'm still relevant, somebody still welcome 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.680 to me here with my gona with you, I'll listen 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.360 to your ship. I'm cool with that. The end of 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.719 the day, we really be happy. And that's crazy of 0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.120 the mystic with with you know what you guys have 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:03.840 done with the hand that you were done with, with 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.800 what happened with Big and stuff. You guys but I 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.600 don't want to. I don't want to do that just yet, 0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.400 my bad e. 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This 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.840 was on my third, my last album on bad Boy, Faithfully, 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.080 and you know, it was one of the songs that 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.120 um you know, puff kind of gave me that was 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:49.840 mostly written. I may and wrote a section on it, 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.759 but it was for the most part already written and 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.279 it was for Jlo. I don't know what happened. I 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.880 don't know if this was like after they wasn't together. 0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:58.360 I don't know, but I had the demo and to 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.120 be just they broke up, he said, let me get 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.200 my record back. No, I don't know. Her voice wasn't 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:06.680 on it. I just know that it was a rich 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:08.719 because when I heard the Denmark could totally hear it. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.000 I can hear it as a J Low record, you 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.839 know what I mean. It's it's a pretty um even 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.840 though it's one of my more popular records. And like 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.239 a lot of the U thirty five and under dudes 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:20.880 that be trying to haul at me, I'm like, how 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.399 did hell you know about me? Like that? I love 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:29.359 your video, like after my divorce, like mad young dudes 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:47.600 was trying to hoel But that was so I just 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.200 kind of I knew it was a hit record. It 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.400 just was like I had to definitely lay back me 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.040 being so used to sing. It's so soulful. It's a 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.800 real simple melody, so to be quite honest, it was 0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:59.600 one of the songs that took a little longer for 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.239 me to or because I had to kind of lay 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.320 back and sing it real pretty, just simple and pretty. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.440 And I think I took like three fourth sessions just 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.440 to like, you know, lay back like I got. I 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.279 know I'm doing too many. It feels too soul for 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.319 I needed this sound just real pretty, so but people 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.280 appreciate the record now. I heard you kind of allude 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.920 to this earlier. Um What has there ever been a 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.480 time where, like you know, um A and rs the 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:29.000 executives overbearing, so you had to actually, like you said, 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.720 I know, you said you should be called by yourself 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.440 a lot then you had to switch over. It was 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.040 was there a time you ever had to switch back 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:37.480 over to what you've been like? Yo, let me just 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:42.800 keep a skeleton bunch because you know, I'm just because 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:47.279 I can't really, to be quite honest, other than on 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:52.279 other people's records where I've been so much produced, you know, 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.320 very few far between Baby Phase when he did that 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.880 single for me, But typically I kind of produced my 0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.480 own vocals, so I'm really kind of never had that problem. 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.560 It was more talking about puff, but I think that 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.080 was just the excitement in the beginning. He just wanted 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.680 to be you know, always, And it was like, okay, 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.000 we know you got a good opinion, but I don't 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.200 think it's good about this. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.759 you're not a stacker, you're not a harmonizer. Let me 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.279 finish my harmonies before you tell me to change something, 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.560 you know. So it was like I have to new sessions. 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.719 I realized, don't even callt him to come listening to 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:29.200 you know. Okay, that's something because something just that stacker 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:36.240 and harmonies. Now, stacker is like doubling up. That's called sacker. 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:43.560 You know, it's called stacking stacking, but in singing sense, 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.440 it's stacking in a unison with the same note harmonies 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.160 when you add a different note creates a fuller sound. Right, 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.719 I got a good question for you. Ever wrote something 0:46:51.800 --> 0:47:07.480 for somebody went to the studio, was like, well again, 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.840 to be honest, when I had that issue. Lucky for me, 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.800 it was posted the error of auto tuning stuff, you 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.680 know what I mean? Like I mean and said, can 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:37.279 you do that one again? Because it's not quite often 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.480 I've worked on other people's stuff, Like in the beginning 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.640 of my career. That was a little more part of 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.680 my hustle before I had a deal. But you know, 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.040 sometimes I don't just had the time to just sit 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.200 around write songs. I'm usually working on someone, I'm on 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.000 a project. I don't really just have songs to work 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.000 on for other people unless they really like, I want 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.520 you to work on my ship like that, And it 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.560 got to be you know, something that's worked my dying 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:04.040 wid Jusulia dying exactly because we do a tyger bone 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:10.560 should oh man, we just let's bring back. But I mean, 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.360 she is a late and it's not often I'm actually 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:19.239 a boy. Let me tell you that was that was 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.200 actually sexist with me. I'm gonna take that back because 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:27.080 tiger bone, that's right when I can tell the girl, man, 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:31.040 you get something with it later straight about that shot, 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.600 you're gonna go sit over. No, no, no, you gotta 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:40.920 drink because you know, I think I remember something. You 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.279 be honest with me seeing y'all together, and I don't 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.040 mean to get emotional, but it's like I know, big 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:52.120 Coach signs that like you know, like like like it's 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.960 a certain feeling, like you know when when you're homeboy 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.279 that you trust hangs out with the lady that you 0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:00.200 love and like holding a dad like a certain fell 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.320 and like that. A man just likes that. It's just 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.799 like it's just like your writing them down to Yeah, 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:12.719 you's the reason why we connected. And I think you 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:16.600 know it's definitely certainly a supernatural thing. And we know 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:18.840 he's because I don't even it. It's only because of 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.160 the spirit catched on when you drove up. I didn't 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:23.200 even know that I was. That was favorite. I know. 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.000 I'm trying to tell you, come on, I'm looking like 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:40.080 you walk with me. I'm like, comes like, show, don't 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.200 take the shot. You haven't I haven't dropped your stuf in. 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:46.719 She she whips the brooke these buckets all the time, 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:48.880 like yo, can I borrow your minds to and people 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.440 like I got I was like, I don't care. I 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:59.000 just got a lot. I mean where the shower hasn't 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.719 take you didn't the poor big shot. But this is 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:17.640 like this is the fat, the fat, yea the tiger. 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:23.080 Last time I had tys that Frances, Oh, she's a veteran. 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.520 She to drink the whole. I'm not gonna lie. I 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.600 wasn't ready for that. That was actually tasty man that 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:39.720 was not spicy. There's a little spike that's like, you're 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:45.400 no no right now. So one of the one of 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:51.200 the one of the most uh it is souls I 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:55.160 ever met, tag on it. One of the most purous 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:59.000 souls I haven't met in hip hop. What's Big? I 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.759 always seen them some. Speaking of Branson, I went to 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.160 Branston one time. Only two people I've ever seen behind 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.719 the counter of Branson is red Man and Big. Okay, well, 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.640 red Man and to introduced me to Branson, who introduced 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:20.759 Big to Branson. Oh this is Branson has to be making. 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.160 I didn't know about Branston because I was boring them 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:25.800 big Jaws and Big, and I was like, were you 0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:29.680 getting them jows? I was like red Man's uptown Branston 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:37.879 at the candy store store exactly lottipops, those tall man Eddie, 0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:42.799 Eddie the candy man, and the other the young one. 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.080 Um I think it was Jay No No, I forgot 0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.480 his name, but I know Eddie. We used to bump 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.240 hands before in the morning out there, but before before 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.000 Eddie passed. That's when I knew that they had like 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.960 some type of payola ship because one of my homies 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:58.840 had died from Queen's and we went up to to 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.279 get some. But we had all the champagne and we 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.879 brought all We brought all the champagne right in front 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.960 of Branston. The police just drove by. I didn't say nothing. 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.640 We smoked all the week that we had. You gotta 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.520 think about it. That spot was right around the corner 0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:13.920 dog for like, oh yeah, but the police sation right 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.759 around the police right there, try Burbridge right there, the 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:21.440 Bronx to the left, the fish stole right here to 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:26.000 the right. Sometimes you do out there, you know what 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.680 I'm saying about that? Sometimes too in the morning and 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.640 people out there about me. Did you sit there for hours? Talk? 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:36.719 You'd be out there for two hours and go on 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:40.799 side ship with time and you'll sit with the more 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:44.000 day because they give your free job for two hours 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.759 here get your half hours to go home with. So 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:54.359 your relationship with what what what little Kim? I see 0:52:54.840 --> 0:53:01.480 recently now it's it's prepared Back then, how was it? Well, Okay, 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.239 I don't know if it's fair to say that there 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.880 was ever a full relationship ever built. But in the beginning, um, 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:10.799 you know, I even see pictures. I'm like, oh, damn, 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:12.879 I remember that, Like, you know, I definitely once I've 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.640 realized this is Big Artists who I've been hearing about, 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:17.480 that's a part of the crew, because I met the 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.920 guys first. I think the first time I saw Kim 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.640 was at the Big Popa video shoot and I was like, 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:23.920 who was that girl? And he was like, oh, this 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.560 little Kim. I had heard about it before, but um, 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.759 I think by you know, initially, I was kind of 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.879 trying to be cool with it. I mean, I think 0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.160 we worked pretty cool. I see pictures where you know, 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.440 I had on her glasses, she had online. You know. 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.440 I was kind of being cool with it because I 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:41.760 knew that was BIGS Artists, but I didn't know anything 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.759 about their um involvement. You know, I didn't know there 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.480 was in any kind of relationship. But I was new, 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.080 you know, I was new Today's circle, So I mean, 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:51.759 I wouldn't have known their history. And of course he 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.880 wasn't trying to tell me that ship. But when I 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.000 found out, of course, it was like damn. You know, 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.719 like damn, what the funk all this time? Right? You know, 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.560 but I can't say that, oh she you know with 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:05.960 some oh she's your friend and then she you know, 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.359 it wasn't like that or you know, we didn't really 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.680 build a relationship but have a history outside of me 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.800 meeting her through knowing that she's his artist and me 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:15.640 already kind of being cool with the guys for a 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.279 few months and you know, like okay, let me. You know, 0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:20.520 he kind of said in the beginnings wanted me to 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.719 kind of be around her, but I think that was 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.120 just that dumb young ship because he realized why do that? 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:37.440 But now I mean, I think, I mean, just to 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.160 be clear, once a big passed away any ill feelings 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.319 to her. You know, we're not the window for me her, 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.160 ain't anybody else. You know, it wasn't really anything to 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.799 feel a way about. But we didn't necessarily see each 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.560 other and get to conversate. There may have been a 0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:53.560 time or two that I ran into her and kind 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.520 of tried to say and she, you know, may not 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:57.439 have been really ready to receive this, so it didn't 0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:01.759 go over so well. But story you on tour, Big 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:07.520 on tour, you're coming through kicking the door, whipping some 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:15.000 chicken ass something that just okay, yeah, I mean I 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.640 went to Virginia. Yeah, that's happening. You're talking about the 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:27.719 scene in the movie. You shut up, you can't. That's 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:29.799 why I ate up to this day. You know how 0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.040 you know, how did you have to drop on big 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.560 How did you even okay? This is that? That's that 0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:40.360 dumb young ship. I'm at home in New York and 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.000 he always well you know, they had a show, and 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:44.879 he will always hit me, you know when he gets 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.160 to wherever they're going, you know just how to say, 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.440 what's up. I'm just working on my Um, I wasn't. 0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.440 I'm not like a clocking you and all that, but 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:53.200 he just he would always kind of check and I 0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.920 got here boom this particular time, just out of nowhere. 0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.880 It's like he was like, yeah, so, um, if you 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.280 call on my room, I'm letting l use my room tonight. 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.360 So and like, why are you telling me that I 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.919 haven't called yet? You haven't not answered yet. You feel 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.719 mean like you're telling too much. So I'm like, what 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.520 do you mean? And I know, going, well, that's a 0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.880 lot like you were ain't about to give up your 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:22.480 room unless somebody be in there. So just immediately I'm like, 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.120 you know, Cagney and lazy. I was like, call me home. 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:29.800 I was like, yo, because you come watch China. Already 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:31.839 had my whole plan together and I made my flight. 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.480 I was like, that's just a thirty minute flight. I 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.400 already knew the room number because he told me. But 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.560 he's like, don't call my room because such and such 0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.560 gonna be using it. And you know you have a session. 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:46.560 Are you kidding me? It was so close, you know what. 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.440 I already got the cab. My home girl came to 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.719 keep my daughter. She's like, what are you talking about? 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.520 What I said, I'll be back on going to Virginia. 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.840 She didn't realized I was really coming right back. I 0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.280 got on the flight. It might have been a seven 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:02.200 dam flight, landed about eight thirty, got to the hotel 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:16.400 about nine nine thirty. Bump bum, you know. But when 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.280 I got to the hotel, why and I see how 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:21.960 the role man that he just happened to be he 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.040 ain't seen me though he checking out. I see him. 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:27.240 I'm do do you know how the cartho? I just 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.200 dipped around to the elevators, get up, stins locked on 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:32.560 the door, went straight to the door and they said 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:34.800 who is And I said, like, how's keeping? And the 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:36.360 girl open the door a little bit and I just 0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.400 kicked it in and just started going for broke and 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:52.080 your favor at the record out. You know, I had 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:57.600 to go seeing I could have Thank god it was 0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:04.040 one year ninety and fun you know Instagram, Instagra? Who 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:05.840 are you to day? The old town? Ye know what 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:17.080 I'm saying that right when doing with tmzad, I wanted it. 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.680 He came into. I came in the room. He that 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:26.120 I was out T's page. Just like father, I stick 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:28.080 to the story. He still wasn't that guy, wasn't it 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.800 under right? She thinks like this will enjoy like with 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.800 the cover over like he like yo, faces came in 0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:44.800 head be not in the morning, sitting there. I'm sure 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:55.080 I don't like that. Who's she? I don't know, so 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:59.720 you tell me she just stay she carried da I 0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:05.640 don't the next pie after look, sure he was over 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.320 there cough like yo. I said, you gotta be the 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.800 ruly shove. And it wasn't even about it was more 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.800 so like, don't sucking something my telsen. It wasn't. I 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:16.640 didn't even want to putting hands on nobody. That was 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:21.720 my intention at the moment. But it was like, son, 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:23.840 don't tell me no dumb ship like that, like I 0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.240 can't let you just think that I'm stupid and I'm 0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:29.560 really believing that, And she wanted to answer the door. 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:42.080 She might not have got sucked up stick here like 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:47.880 get that. Yeah, we wanted. I felt bad for after 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.439 that because I was like, look, I don't even funk. 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:55.160 I was like, well you should have stupid, you should 0:59:55.480 --> 1:00:14.520 he just got Really, I'm like, you shut up. That 1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:19.120 was actually real situation about it. So actually this is 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.440 the last time he was here with Jada kiss Well, 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.360 I don't have to ask you this, Um, did you 1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:29.240 watch The Unsolved? You know what. I haven't, but I've 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:30.800 been hearing a lot about it and I want to 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.320 catch up on it because, um, you know, and when 1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:36.720 people ask me about it, it's like using a pan. 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:39.360 So I can't have one that since I haven't seen it. 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.959 But certain things that I know when people as a viewer, 1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:47.960 you don't necessarily always no, Okay, this is the story 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.120 of the detective. It doesn't mean it's not a true story, 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:56.720 but one side. But it's also something that has moved 1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:58.640 other things that may help us in a way. So 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:00.600 it's like, you know, even though I haven't seen it, 1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.960 there you know, things that kind of shift in people saying, oh, 1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:06.240 we hurt that too, Like we know it is some 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:08.600 of that too, but that doesn't bring us to a 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.960 conclusion to make them arrest somebody. And there's a Johnny 1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:14.680 Depp movie coming out to right right actually played herself 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:17.800 and that she did a little don't even know that 1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.120 when she want when we were out there, Um, yeah, 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.080 she did a little quick seeing um instead of you know, 1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:24.880 they had to just play herself kind of meeting with 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.880 the guy. Oh I didn't see that. I didn't see 1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:31.720 that because I didn't I don't want to watch that 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:34.240 first one that first. I didn't want to. Yeah, I 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.600 just actually just watched it like like a month ago. 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:38.760 I just went through and like watching like the first one. 1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:44.280 It's actually, Um, it's because you know, in the hood, 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:47.120 we always say if we know, the police know, but 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:51.000 we never we never had no proof of that until that, 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:57.640 Like like everything that we kind of like skeptical or speculating, 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:00.600 it was the same thing that they did. So I 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:03.280 kind of appreciated that from that. Obviously, I don't have 1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:07.120 you know, as much interested invested into this as as 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:10.480 you got. What makes sense makes sense, make sense? So 1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:13.480 I'm sitting back and I'm like a lot of this 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.600 that some of this was just just overwhelming, and it's 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:19.520 just over like I don't believe that, you know, puff 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.600 had anything to do with the other side, Like I can't. 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:26.920 I just can't. I just can't. But other things that 1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.880 was involved in that I didn't believe, Like I didn't believe, 1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:33.800 like the police knew. I believe the police, I would 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:37.600 be honest with you. I believe the police guys the 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:44.080 East Coast, West Coast Big War more than we actually. No, 1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:49.680 the media definitely did well. They made up something that 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.960 didn't really exist. Yeah, it really wasn't that they made 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:55.800 They actually made it that man, the sort of thing 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:57.600 was happening at the time. When you see all this 1:02:57.640 --> 1:02:59.960 stuff come around now, it makes you think of back 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:03.120 about like certain things that came across Like when we 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:05.280 was in the l A. The FEDS was actually following us, 1:03:05.360 --> 1:03:07.480 Like what the funk? You know, what the fun was 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:09.280 y'all that day? You know what I mean at the 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:12.080 Soul training boards, but what happened this day? So you 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:14.400 always be thinking of all these like different things, but 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:15.920 you don't know much. So a lot of times you 1:03:16.000 --> 1:03:18.760 hear about certain things, right, we don't that years later 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:27.440 were like that, why right? People relationship change. It's not 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:30.360 surprising what you're saying, because remember, years later we find 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:31.880 him out about all the stuff they were doing the 1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:34.720 FEDS with the Black Panthers, and that's how they were 1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:37.720 beefs between them, and then they had a whole program 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:40.760 that was like undercover doing stuff. So that's exactly what 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:42.400 they should have been doing in hip hop and probably, 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:45.120 I mean, it's kind of obvious they were. Well here's 1:03:45.160 --> 1:03:48.480 the thing. I feel like they were able to um, 1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:53.600 you know, to definitely heighten the fuel the fire more, 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:57.200 but and not to mention some involvement in the sense 1:03:57.280 --> 1:03:59.919 of whatever their work they were doing with the Death 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:03.120 Road organization. And that's not too that's not me trying 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:04.400 to sum it up and pin it on that, but 1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:06.960 I know there was there's clearly been. There's evidence and 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:10.080 and it's documented that there was involvement you know, with 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:13.080 the police and death row records or whatever, so um, 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:16.120 whatever that is. But I think that just they were 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:19.760 able to certainly um with the media as well, to 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:21.880 heighten that ship and add to it them it may 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:24.439 have helped them to cover up some other ship because 1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:28.160 it's just people, you know how that Gold Street niggas gangsters. 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:30.200 You know what I mean, Yo, ship is you know 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:32.360 what I mean. Don't get me wrong. We've heard many 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:35.440 times and it wasn't in court, and it wasn't from 1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:38.560 the people that should be making an arrest. Who the 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:41.760 person is that actually pulled the childer and killed Big 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:44.200 and not so much that that mean that's true, but 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:46.880 I think we kind of got an idea that it's believable. 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.480 But at the same time, you know, we it's not 1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:53.960 up to us too. We can't we can't. We can't uh, 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:58.240 we can't legally implicate anyone, and we can't arrest anybody. 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:03.120 So it's like until that, you know, don't matter. It 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:05.880 don't matter what we think of what our conclusion based 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.200 on all these things is if the l a p 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:11.320 d doesn't choose to hold somebody at fall for his 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:15.200 murder us Again, that's why I suggest you watch it, because, 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:18.680 um it's kind of their point of view, and it's 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:21.160 like we've never seen that part, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:25.440 Um me again, Um, obviously I met Big, I never 1:05:25.520 --> 1:05:29.720 got to met meet Tupac at all. I actually had 1:05:29.760 --> 1:05:35.560 a record called l A l A Defending Big and 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:39.040 um So. But I never got to meet Tupac. I 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:42.880 never really got and and again all I heard was 1:05:43.040 --> 1:05:45.280 rumor was all I heard was things. I remember me 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:48.680 landing in l A after it happened, and you know, 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:51.720 def jam or Tommy Boy, forget what labor I was 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:54.360 on um As soon as I landed, they had police 1:05:54.400 --> 1:05:56.600 with me, and I was just like what it was like? Yo? 1:05:57.160 --> 1:05:59.480 It was like, Yo, listen, we're not taking no chances. 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:02.160 You're Jervon's risking all this because y'all put it out there. 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:04.000 You know, y'all y'all were doing something he wasn't doing. 1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:06.920 Y'all was making the response when we wasn't. That's how 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:09.120 I think it was because that's what the media made it. 1:06:09.480 --> 1:06:11.160 I mean, because y'all wasn't speaking to us, and he 1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:15.479 was telling y'all could do that. It was just because 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:18.080 they're doing this, because that's what they was making it. 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:19.680 You know what I mean. You're doing photos shoot for 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:21.920 a magazine and they put it out and they say 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:24.160 East coast versus West coast on the vibe. You know, 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:26.560 it was just they was all feeding into it, making 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.480 it something it wasn't, and Nick was just really just 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:31.320 feeding off it, you know what I'm Sayings have apologized 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:35.440 since then because they realized that ship started a lot 1:06:35.440 --> 1:06:36.560 of you know what I mean, that's just started a 1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:38.680 lot of ships. Ship was really real, like you really 1:06:38.720 --> 1:06:42.560 couldn't go to certain places and an't like how this great. 1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:48.120 Let me just tell you something. Um wow, that's nothing 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:50.480 the other day, but like last year or whatever. Right, 1:06:50.720 --> 1:06:55.400 I'm at I'm at my hotel and Tupox movie came out. 1:06:56.080 --> 1:06:59.040 So in my hotel room package was tickets to the 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:07.320 Tupac ship. So I'm like, who ship? So I'm like, 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:09.920 all right, cool, I had tickets already. So I walked 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:12.000 in there and it was the first time like I 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:18.919 actually was the only East coast, you know, West coast part. 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:21.440 You know how I hung out with Drake Father, my nigger. 1:07:23.440 --> 1:07:25.320 There was something I said, ainything I don't know you 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:38.640 would from Mississippi. How you doing it exists? Exists? But 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:42.320 I stood there like it was the first time, like 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:44.520 I got I got to live in their world. And 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:49.280 they really we were really just confused. Motherfucker's because the 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:51.960 thing about like you to think about even you know, 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:55.360 you know, New York, we were separated. We established that 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:58.200 on like we're separated if right, meaning like you we'll 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:00.720 say you're from Brick City, you'll say you from Brooklyn 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:04.080 or whatever. But I didn't realize that everywhere else kind 1:08:04.120 --> 1:08:06.720 of does the same thing too, Like like I was 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:09.520 sitting there and there was like game dude, seeing each 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:13.000 other's what's talking? But then they then they just walked away, 1:08:13.040 --> 1:08:20.640 and I'm just like, pretty much, I don't know what 1:08:22.000 --> 1:08:27.360 I said. I was like, yo, and mind I'm because 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:29.679 I'm the East Coast through they don't really they don't, 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:31.439 they don't really, they don't really see me. I don't 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:33.200 want me. The more work I have one dude. That's 1:08:33.200 --> 1:08:37.400 where the guards me and one dude. So um, And 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:40.040 that was the first time I got to realize, like, 1:08:40.200 --> 1:08:42.000 you know, I want you know what we were both. 1:08:42.120 --> 1:08:45.360 We were both from manipulated, like we were taught to 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:49.280 think that we're different from them and they're different from us, 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:52.360 when really it's the same people just with a different act. 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:56.559 And we had to do so much ship over there. 1:08:56.560 --> 1:08:58.680 It was like, yo, like you know, I don't have 1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:00.360 a tality back then, you really just and give a 1:09:00.400 --> 1:09:02.479 funk like you know that that's a new Yorkshire. You know, 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:07.519 we we go anywhere, like man funk all that, I'm 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:17.000 not gonna go nowhere. We got more now we keep going, 1:09:17.479 --> 1:09:19.639 so you know that's that's I don't want to knock 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:22.120 streight down. So that's how I look and stuff like that. 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:25.680 What I'm saying, like, you know, one thing that that 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:29.360 I'm curious about is you and big relationship as both 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:33.519 being artists. How is that dynamic? How does that play 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:38.080 out to people that are artists with careers of their own? Um, 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:41.880 I think that probably how do you even have quality 1:09:41.960 --> 1:09:45.280 time to start with? Just even that you know, we 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:48.360 just met. We were both already artists and it wasn't 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.320 like we were full fledged into It just happened so quick. 1:09:52.040 --> 1:09:54.240 So I think the person that put more thought on 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:58.360 that than us was I mean, he liked the fact 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:00.719 that y'all had a relationship. I couldn't there like probably 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:03.600 on the business. But it's like I didn't even know 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:05.680 y'all were dating, Like I mean, I can think I 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:07.760 remember telling him like I think he likes me. But 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:11.280 you know, it was a matter of like two months 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:15.519 six you know, two months from us meeting to being married. 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:19.880 So it wasn't seven days like he's been said. It 1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:23.080 was more like two months from us meeting and actually 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.519 getting married. But you know, I remember being such a 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:28.840 big deal. It's so funny. I'm like, what the fund is? 1:10:28.880 --> 1:10:31.200 The big deal? Y'all told puff y'all like we have 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:35.400 to make this big old meet and announced it. You 1:10:35.479 --> 1:10:57.200 are quipped, you have a catheter. I'm trying to the 1:10:57.240 --> 1:11:08.639 next month drinking work. First they called me the only time. 1:11:08.880 --> 1:11:15.400 First of all, first we could hear you first. I think. 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:19.000 I don't think there's no other guests requested trying your bone, 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:21.559 because that's what I'm want, Like, come on, get going 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:24.320 on the baby guy, man, come on, help, let's star 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:26.479 leave that out there. That's going on the big one. Pause. 1:11:29.560 --> 1:11:33.920 That's that's three fucking great people over. I can't that's 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:37.160 the way. So rest in peace. I didn't get that. 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:40.880 Oh yeah, exactly, rest in peace. I didn't mean that. 1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:45.759 But my son FaceTime with different strokes. There are suns 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:54.240 weird out. Mopster still alive though, still okay, And I 1:11:55.000 --> 1:12:03.120 say killed name Louis is his name? That college slipping 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:12.439 backs to see what cocaine has. Two weeks ago was 1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:16.360 there has about in front of the cannon ball. Damn, 1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:17.760 I was punked up with that. Just now, man, I 1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:20.120 feel bad about very cool man. Man, I didn't know 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:24.680 that not so um so you got don sounds so disappointed. Man, 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:27.280 that was my god. They compare me to for a 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:39.320 long time. He's like, now he's still alive. Listen, just 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:41.880 quite a few people. There's quite a few people who 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:46.320 had the craziest run in the music industry. Bad boy 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:50.679 that had one of the craziest one at one point. 1:12:50.800 --> 1:12:53.519 If you didn't think they had the longest run, if 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:58.639 you ain't hip hop like strange eventI every nowaday, sorry 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:08.880 you don't have something you didn't you agree, Benji, y'all 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:15.160 had the illest one. Y'all tours, y'all dice games mostly 1:13:15.439 --> 1:13:18.880 like like like describe y'all first toy like as a 1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:21.479 as a bad boy family together. Let me tell you 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:26.639 about mine. Okay it was two years ago. I don't 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:31.000 know what the reunion tour. Okay, hold on part of that, Okay, 1:13:31.280 --> 1:13:36.280 but hold I understand you didn't You didn't go because 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:40.000 the biggest jealousy or you didn't go because me and 1:13:40.080 --> 1:13:42.519 Big was going through it. But on some other ship. 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:45.160 You know, I still was about my money and our career. 1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:49.000 Ship was very separate, you know. Um, and they wanted 1:13:49.000 --> 1:13:51.240 me to go on the tour, fucking saying it's promo 1:13:51.479 --> 1:14:21.439 that means free, my niggah. Like I was okay, not 1:14:21.600 --> 1:14:24.200 only on the personal side. I had found out about 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:27.760 Big and Camp. Then Big was already dating, um, Charlie Baltimore. 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:37.360 This so I listening happened. Not gonna don't avoid ship 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:40.439 you dot boyd ship. I'm not angry. It's so good. 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:57.840 I'm still Yeah, I was doing shows like you know, 1:14:58.040 --> 1:14:59.760 getting Like I want to say, at the time, I 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:01.760 had maybe two singles out, but I had a gold 1:15:01.880 --> 1:15:03.680 My album might even been gold. But I know I 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:06.360 had two gold singles for sure, and maybe my album 1:15:06.400 --> 1:15:09.640 almost go. I'm getting paid like sevent just to do 1:15:09.800 --> 1:15:12.439 two songs, three songs on the on the night, you know, 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:16.080 maybe seventy five gees. Like that was okay for me. 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:18.519 Why am I gonna go on a tour for free 1:15:18.840 --> 1:15:20.880 and might have to fund somebody up, you know what 1:15:20.880 --> 1:15:22.600 I mean? Like I don't want to even This is 1:15:22.640 --> 1:15:24.840 me trying to be very not around that ship because 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:39.200 I don't want to do that right exactly exactly like 1:15:39.320 --> 1:15:42.240 hell night doing that, and I um went to l 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:45.560 A because this producer was saying he would want to 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:47.280 pay me the write songs for his group, which is 1:15:47.400 --> 1:15:49.320 who I was with in the club to night that 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:51.760 I met Tupac with when Tres was with Tupac in 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:54.800 the club in l A. Because I was just trying 1:15:54.840 --> 1:16:01.519 to make money, this makes sense, and they was Tres Tres, 1:16:03.960 --> 1:16:06.400 I don't Trench from Jersey used to be at Brehouse. 1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:08.160 So he was some one like, Yo, my boy, Pad 1:16:08.240 --> 1:16:11.000 want to meet you. I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest 1:16:11.080 --> 1:16:14.519 with you. Right, I hadn't met you. We got we 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:19.920 gotta take a ball, not okay, right, cool? So I 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:24.160 haven't met you solo solo cool. You gotta Tau for 1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:37.120 the Birk met you, Oh my god, And I knew 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:41.679 the most lovable person. I met you in Justice. Oh wow, 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:45.120 I met you in Justice and um we were just 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:52.280 there and I had smelled like wee and I knew 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:55.479 like like the type of person you was. So when 1:16:55.680 --> 1:16:59.240 we visited the picture, I was like that pure and 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.760 I had just like I could tell like, yeah, knew 1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:05.680 that I'm cool. No, I'm cool with everybody, and that's 1:17:05.720 --> 1:17:08.680 not the experience of that that in hindsight, you know. 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:12.240 But and we were just on everything, just talking about 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.639 this like last night. But you know, it's like nigger, 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:17.439 you know me a big would I told Big I 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:20.240 met Pop like I would avoid Biggs calls some time 1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.080 to that producer's house that I was working just on 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:24.680 my little bullshit. You know, we did dumb ship. But 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:26.560 then this time I took you. I was happy to 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:28.840 tell him because I knew, like Big did not want 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.639 to believe that. I didn't know Pop, but I knew 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:32.680 what he said about him, how he felt about him, 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:35.160 and so when he even had an inkle of like 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:38.439 at that time, it wasn't confirmed like he really feel 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:40.120 like that. But it was a little ship. It wasn't 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:42.960 no social you know what I mean. Like I don't 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:45.040 know if it was even so much direction at the time, 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:48.599 it wasn't. That article wasn't out. So I was happy, like, yo, 1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:50.439 I met your boy poking. He told me he liked 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:52.040 my music and want to do something for me. I'm 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:54.800 thinking it was he didn't say don't do it, He's like, 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:56.160 you gonna do it. I was like, yeah, I gave 1:17:56.200 --> 1:18:00.320 him Mark's number told how much it's gonna be. Yeah, 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:02.560 he was my he was bigg manager. So after a 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:04.439 certain point I let him be my manager because I 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:07.080 didn't have a manager when I got signed. But you know, 1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:09.240 it wasn't. It wasn't something that I was hiding. You 1:18:09.360 --> 1:18:11.479 put it. That's the point I'm making, And my point 1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:14.120 was it Big would have said, don't do it it Big, 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:17.439 because we know Big wasn't. He wasn't on the garden 1:18:17.600 --> 1:18:20.120 and he probably a little confused, like I don't think 1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:21.600 that's true, because there's no way he could feel that 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.760 he could think. Would you understood how he tried to 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:26.040 use you as a causual tier the wall? Absolutely, and 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:28.080 not only I'm not only him. But the thing is, 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.640 at that time, I didn't even know the bigger situation. 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:33.920 When I went to the studio with cop I didn't 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:35.600 know he was signed to death Roll. I was on 1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:38.080 stage with Pup at that Source Awards when she said 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:40.720 that I was there on stage but I didn't know. 1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:44.639 I wasn't say I didn't know what you were talking about. 1:18:45.360 --> 1:18:48.960 I had on a like a champagne colored su Chris Webber, 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:56.519 me and public I'm confused and clapping at like was 1:18:56.600 --> 1:18:59.439 going on. And even when I went to studio, until 1:18:59.439 --> 1:19:01.280 I walked in a studio, I didn't know Pop was 1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:05.160 signed to death Row. Like I immediately was like, oh ship, 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:07.599 Like I knew other people from just whatever I've seen 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:10.160 in the media. I saw probably uh, I don't remember, 1:19:10.200 --> 1:19:13.680 maybe Danny Way corrupt corrupt was there, you know what 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:15.479 I mean. But I just started being a cool person, 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:17.880 my hands smoking with everybody. You know, I'm gonna get 1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:20.040 this hook done. But I felt a little weird because 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:23.080 I just didn't know he was on death Row. And 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:25.479 I knew that this guy who runs this label had 1:19:25.560 --> 1:19:30.120 just said something about the president runs my label, even 1:19:30.160 --> 1:19:32.720 though I didn't know boy it was coming from, and 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:34.439 I didn't know where it was coming from for even 1:19:34.520 --> 1:19:37.200 years after even for a few years after that, you know, 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:40.040 like there's a whole backstory too. I left that has 1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:42.519 nothing to do a big or two you know what 1:19:42.560 --> 1:19:47.880 I'm saying. So that's yeah, that's so um okay. In 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:52.320 the movie again, it says, um again, I'm just a 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:55.360 little into the movie, this can be um false for 1:19:55.479 --> 1:19:57.960 big hands about it and and me as being a man, 1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:06.360 that was my wife. We were just talking about that. No, No, 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:10.560 that happened, um Big. I think what happened was that 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:12.640 it was like I don't know what magazine and may 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:15.000 have been Vibe, may have been sourced one of those, 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:17.439 or may have been New York something rubble Stone, but 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:21.559 they were there was an article and this is prior 1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:24.000 to I mean, this is after me going in the 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:28.320 studio with Tupac. But again, there was no up right, 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:30.560 I don't know. I've heard it before, but I don't know. 1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:34.560 I don't know whether it was just it's online, but 1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:36.439 I don't know if it was on the actual death 1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:40.840 Row release or something like it was never approved something. 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:43.880 I think they put it out with the girl duel 1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:46.639 singing it. But do you want to know the irony? 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:49.200 You know what the song was called? Right? I wonder 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:58.000 why I didn't call you bitch? Right? Yes, imagine you 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:00.719 know what I'm saying, like this is what I'm singing 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:03.320 right now in the moment of me like, oh this 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:05.240 snik is on death ro Like you know what I'm saying, 1:21:06.560 --> 1:21:13.040 Like it was weird, but one what was gonna happen next? 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:15.880 Until I did never get my mother fucking checking. So 1:21:16.960 --> 1:21:21.960 is prior to that, um big, and Pop work good. 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:25.360 Well again, I never met Pop. But let me take 1:21:25.400 --> 1:21:28.320 you back before that to the Quad studio night, which 1:21:28.400 --> 1:21:31.560 is another story that has been, you know, differently purported, 1:21:31.880 --> 1:21:34.439 but I remember I wasn't there, but I was at 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:37.400 our apartment in Brooklyn and Big called me boo who 1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:40.920 crying after that ship happened and telling me, I'm going 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:43.439 to belve you to check on Pop. You feel me. 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:46.840 So whether anybody ever said that, but I know that, well, 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:48.880 I knew before that. I knew he would never that 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:51.400 wasn't something he would do. I spoke to them soon 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:52.599 they used to be with me or they're like, oh 1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:55.880 my god, I don't I know. We ran upstairs and 1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:57.920 the next thing, you know, you know, I think it 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:00.519 may not have been right away, but you know, by 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:03.479 the time it got to public consumption, it wasn't more 1:22:03.560 --> 1:22:07.240 than a week later that people were saying that he 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:09.160 said that or he obviously did say it, that he 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.439 said they had something to do with it. But I 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:14.000 knew that wasn't the case. Like he did called me 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:18.439 crying going to check on him. That wasn't fake. He 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:20.400 don't have to call me. He's like, oh my god, 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:23.639 this just happened. Season him and I'm gonna go check 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:25.760 on my man, make sure you are right, you know. 1:22:25.840 --> 1:22:30.040 And he came home later, but um, you know, he 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.880 still kind of wanted to think that their relationship was 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:37.519 a little more genuine than what he was here. I'd 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:40.600 know what. Obviously Pop had shifted for whatever reason. You 1:22:40.680 --> 1:22:45.960 know his feelings about Big. You know, they was young. 1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:49.120 It was a battery back. If they would have met 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:51.559 with each other, that would be I think he's definitely 1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:54.360 hopefully wasting a one day work it out, you know 1:22:54.400 --> 1:23:02.519 what I'm saying that y'all saw each other at everything. No, no, 1:23:02.880 --> 1:23:06.400 I want a piece of He said, that wasn't That 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:09.960 wasn't the Pop We like, he couldn't believe that dude 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:12.719 was doing that. But you know he was with Sugar. 1:23:12.800 --> 1:23:15.080 You know Sugar, Like everybody know that Shug was putting 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:17.240 the battery in his back, had him, you know, doing 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:19.160 that type of ship because he had a personal situation 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:20.720 with Puff, you know what I'm saying that, And you 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.200 know we didn't know about that or you know that 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:25.360 ship don't come around to you. Hear rumors about that 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:27.720 ship like it was some personal ship with them that 1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:32.200 that trickled down to beyond pop situation. What I'm saying, 1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:34.040 Pop didn't want to do that, but that you know, 1:23:34.080 --> 1:23:36.400 they built him out of jail and he came out, 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:39.920 and you know, his loyalty was to that. He can't 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:41.840 knock him for that, you know what I'm saying. Our 1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:44.080 loyal t was towards Big. It is what it is. 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:46.080 We didn't just it's no other reason for me to 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:48.519 dislike that man. We didn't like him because he was 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:51.040 going against my man. That's my boss, that's my brother, 1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:53.200 you know what I'm saying. And that's just how it was. 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:55.960 And that wasn't really who Pop was. We hung out 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:59.280 with him before, and that's why Big didn't. That's why 1:23:59.400 --> 1:24:02.600 Big didn't response and do these things, you know what 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:06.200 I'm saying. So it supposed to went to that level, 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:07.840 you know what I'm saying, Like you know Big, That's 1:24:07.880 --> 1:24:09.639 why he never made a response. That's why he didn't 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:11.760 even feed into the ship that went down with the 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:14.519 picture with harding him. He knew who he was, and 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:17.960 he knew her before for first and foremost what I'm saying, 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:20.080 But it wasn't nothing to really trip about, you know 1:24:20.120 --> 1:24:23.280 what i mean. But because her partner how how old 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:26.479 was you because like like you're you're like like like 1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:29.400 that was like the first person like that they used you, 1:24:29.680 --> 1:24:34.639 Like no, but I publicly and people knew of there's 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:40.160 other people, you know, it hasn't been oh he says 1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:42.280 this and go to that die. But yeah, I think 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:46.160 in terms of like being um, you know, kind of 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:49.920 publicly judged in regard to a situation and making it 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.720 seem like it was my situation is way more than your. 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:55.640 You stayed classy too, you could, you could try, but 1:24:55.760 --> 1:24:57.360 you know, don't get me wrong. I got I was 1:24:57.520 --> 1:25:01.840 very mad at first because I was like, my lord 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:04.960 and I sued him for saying that once I started 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:06.720 hearing they saying this, and he was like, I mean, 1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:10.280 come on, like you know, like you're gonna sue the 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:12.840 MIKEE for saying something you know that don't And I 1:25:12.960 --> 1:25:15.080 was just like thinking of by like, girl, this could 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:17.519 get really ugly, like you know, I ain't about to 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:20.360 you know, not even knowing that the ship is way 1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:23.080 bigger than somebody saying something about you, you know what 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.400 I mean. I didn't know the whole full story, but 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:28.280 I knew that ship was wrong. But I figured enough 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:30.200 to well I was like, excuse me, you know what, 1:25:30.360 --> 1:25:32.160 I know what it is. God knows what it is. 1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:35.120 And the only person I was concerned about initially was 1:25:35.200 --> 1:25:37.240 really Big and talking to Big, you know, which I 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:39.160 never really got to do. Because back to that scene 1:25:39.200 --> 1:25:40.880 when you say he came and he heard about it, 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:43.679 that was really what you started talking about that happened. 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:46.600 You know, he was like, what the funking? I'm like, like, 1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:49.760 you're sucking. But I think it was more so him 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:55.840 hearing about the bigger situation. And this is after Hit 1:25:55.920 --> 1:25:59.880 him Up came out. I noticed before Hit him Up, 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:04.080 just before hit out article, it was an article saying 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:07.640 that I traded my Yeah, the picture was one thing, 1:26:07.720 --> 1:26:10.599 but there was an article which Sugar Tupac and Sugar 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:13.560 was like, um, I traded in my wedding ring and 1:26:13.600 --> 1:26:15.479 took him shop and brought him but I bought him 1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:20.360 the outfit he had one in the magazine. It was 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:23.840 also heart a cool that they were talking about the 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:25.880 same stuff. So you're right, it might have been a 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:29.760 video somewhere too, but you know, it was like it 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:32.120 was just when I've heard about it, and then Big 1:26:32.240 --> 1:26:34.120 kind of it was right after me coming back from 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:37.760 l a experiencing that session with him and like him 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:39.640 kind of breaking on me saying I gotta sunk his 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:45.080 dick to get my check. I'm just saying I because 1:26:45.120 --> 1:26:47.599 you know, I'm not going to rehash it in that sense, 1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:49.360 because I keep like, yeah, I've talked about it, and 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:52.120 I don't you know, but yeah, things happened in a 1:26:52.160 --> 1:26:54.080 different way where I was like, this isn't what I 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:56.240 signed up for, so, you know, and I don't want 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.040 to do that because I've seen another interview. I'm like, 1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.800 why did I end up talking about it again? You know, 1:26:59.840 --> 1:27:02.320 it's I talked about it in my book and I 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:07.320 ain't really trying to like, uh shoot on his uh legacy. 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:09.800 You know what I'm saying, so to speak in terms 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:13.080 of just my personal experience, but you know, I know that, 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:16.519 you know, the way I just felt like it was 1:27:17.200 --> 1:27:20.240 it was definitely some other weird influence, Like I didn't 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:23.000 I didn't feel comfortable around him on the strength of 1:27:23.680 --> 1:27:26.559 knowing anything other than the fact that Big really fucked 1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:28.760 with him. That's what I can't say. You feel what 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:32.720 I'm saying. You feel me. That's the only reason I 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:34.280 was like, and I was happy. That's why I was 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:36.880 happy to tell Big Yo, I met your boy pap. 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:39.479 If I if I'm trying to funk with this nigga, 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:42.600 why am I gonna tell you my husband, who's definitely 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.200 about not trying to see me with no other nigga. 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:48.360 You know what I'm saying, Like Big, you know, which 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:50.120 is why I was so offended when he was had 1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:52.120 to order to be out with like nigga white people 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:54.200 FU killed me if I was trying to you know 1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:56.200 what I mean. Like, So it was just it was 1:27:56.280 --> 1:28:00.800 just weird. It was just all very quick and it 1:28:01.000 --> 1:28:04.040 was just weird, you know. But I think I think 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:08.880 the fact that when Um I kind of used you, 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:12.720 I think that when against everybody from that on out. 1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:16.360 Now when uh yea he tried to kind of pull 1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:21.439 the same thing, it backfired and not on um. Just 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:25.400 now Drake kind of tried to do the same things 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:28.960 and it backfired on him. Was because those kind of 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:31.280 like cheap shots, you don't supposed to do that, right, 1:28:31.840 --> 1:28:34.040 certain things like if you're a real guy, you don't 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:38.720 you don't involve other people money. My situation is with you, right, 1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:44.320 That's why Big, I'm not gonna But that's because I 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:47.439 did go on the studio. Whether people understand the fact 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:49.360 that I just didn't know, sir. You know, I ain't 1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:51.439 looking for no sympathy, but I know what it really was. 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:57.000 I was down there to get money. Like out, It's okay. 1:28:57.040 --> 1:29:00.360 I wasn't tripping off of no getting back at I'm 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:02.120 trying to make money and I don't want to suck 1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:05.640 a bit up every day and for free. I'm just 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:09.360 saying that tour over there. It's crazy you mentioned Jay 1:29:09.760 --> 1:29:11.240 because I was thinking when we were talking about this, 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:14.800 how they were able to resolve their ship and look 1:29:14.840 --> 1:29:16.439 how they grew together in a sense of you know, 1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:19.640 business that I could just imagine, you know, imagine what 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:23.799 that could have been, what they could have done united. 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:26.960 It would have been crazy. But they they they have, 1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:29.840 they opened up the door to That's what hip hop 1:29:29.960 --> 1:29:31.840 is about now when we talk about getting it right 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:33.800 and getting it straight and getting on the right path. 1:29:34.240 --> 1:29:36.759 That's the example we use. You know, when he's Wrappers 1:29:36.800 --> 1:29:39.040 out here beating today and doing all this ratchet, putting 1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:42.879 guns or down, why you beat? You've seen what happened. 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:49.520 But today, sometimes like I feel like that this generation 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:53.040 feels disconnected from that generation. They're like that's some on 1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:56.599 purpose they felt disconnected because they don't want to feel 1:29:57.120 --> 1:29:59.439 let right, they don't want to People don't know the 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:01.920 spirit of all of these those things. You know, we 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:05.120 just had a conversation that kind of enlightened whoever may 1:30:05.160 --> 1:30:06.840 not have known about that, and it might be like, 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.760 oh damn, it was actually a whole spirit in the 1:30:09.920 --> 1:30:14.000 core of you know, the big impacts relationship, what became 1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:15.640 of it and what the you know what I mean, 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:18.479 there was some type of real spirit inside of that 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:20.960 in the beginning, you know. So I think a lot 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:23.320 of people that in terms of speaking on based on 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:26.040 that story alone or that example, they don't really understand 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:28.519 that it's more just a beef. They don't really understand 1:30:28.600 --> 1:30:33.479 like what we just talked about, like really history behind. 1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:37.840 He didn't want to believe you know what I'm saying 1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:41.200 that I wouldnerstand myself, Like I remember me making L 1:30:41.240 --> 1:30:44.240 A L A the record to defend Big and bringing 1:30:44.400 --> 1:30:51.160 the big seeing it because he genuinely cared. But I 1:30:54.200 --> 1:31:07.800 think just he was he was because yeah, when I 1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:11.000 couldn't even picture it, he was like, look, we're not 1:31:11.080 --> 1:31:13.479 gonna this tim because they accused me of somebody do 1:31:13.640 --> 1:31:17.560 North and I'm like, nah, be this is how we 1:31:17.640 --> 1:31:19.680 used to see them. It's how they're approaching us like nah, 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:27.479 I'm like no, nah, and like I've never been before 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:32.320 in my life at that time, I mean you already 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:33.880 had that in your hand, Like man, if I got 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:36.360 to go back there now, this is our mentality, and 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.960 natis mentality, like you know, to their kids, do that 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:41.000 just now for wreck. You know, you put me on 1:31:41.040 --> 1:31:43.400 the ground, We're gonna pull up. You know that's we 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:45.880 didn't have that money. It was straight man, you stick 1:31:45.920 --> 1:31:49.160 shift in my life everything is automatic right now. Cheat 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.920 you know it was stick shifting on every my nigga, 1:31:52.080 --> 1:31:54.080 you know, to learn how to da at that point 1:31:54.760 --> 1:31:56.200 you can go to the club, but not knowing that 1:31:56.400 --> 1:32:00.559 the nitya pull up right. There ain't no texting me back. 1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:05.679 You're not sitting in so you know that's how we can't. 1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:07.640 That's that's the ver of that. This game is so 1:32:07.840 --> 1:32:10.760 like on the flip side, I'm happy, ain't nobody catch me, 1:32:11.479 --> 1:32:17.120 you know, pulling up catching rack on nobody's video. There's 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:28.960 no social media, you know. You know we start some 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.360 of the days when we had to sit around fifty 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:34.080 left right, guys and guys got ninety niggas for queens. 1:32:35.120 --> 1:32:38.120 You've got landing niggs from Brooklyn. M P Got thirty 1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:43.920 niggas from Browns. Building Chain got two hundred niggas. Gust 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:49.320 all types of ship they're here at braided ever ships 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:59.280 with them strange nigga. Nobody's service, No no around here. 1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:03.720 You get to the ball, yo, my bitches, not coming 1:33:03.760 --> 1:33:09.439 to just what are you make straight? Forty dirty days? 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:21.679 You one of you're a large because I love shout 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:27.719 out the Red Kwan and met the man that dirt 1:33:28.040 --> 1:33:31.639 your dirty little fucked up is back up days. I'll 1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:36.160 see my drant ship on for like eight months because 1:33:36.200 --> 1:33:39.360 let's set shot. You just wake up and just put 1:33:39.400 --> 1:33:41.640 almos on the side of your bed. What actually not 1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:46.040 taking that to the we would be the album comes 1:33:46.080 --> 1:33:48.840 to the ship that you just ma have stallus cous days. 1:33:48.880 --> 1:33:51.880 People bring you your shoes and shirts and ship lined 1:33:52.000 --> 1:33:58.200 up the days shoes out of the shoes out to 1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:00.439 make you step In the movie where he had two 1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:06.360 sides thirties that they had these the gators right and 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:09.639 you know the uh what he was there was a twelve, 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:11.800 he went thirteens. But you know they probably run a 1:34:11.840 --> 1:34:14.360 little smaller in the gator joint and the ships were 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.519 too tight and they ain't had no other options. He 1:34:16.640 --> 1:34:19.679 cut the back of the shoes and made them basically 1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:21.600 made him slides. He cut the back of the n 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:26.880 gators and performed on the source of forts like but 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:29.320 you couldn't see because the pants was on that. They 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:32.080 made him some fucking slidings and cut the whole back 1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:34.479 out and so trained on the back of on the 1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:40.640 back shy. Let me just walk like slipper, Let me 1:34:40.680 --> 1:34:49.519 just back too tight, he moved too much asgott gun 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:55.200 up manly. So gonna make your old movie. I'm actually 1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:58.960 working on it. Yeah, you set up a home movie. 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:15.080 You They don't know that because because you know how 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:25.880 I mean, I mean we're talking about because when I 1:35:25.960 --> 1:35:28.920 see the Death Rowd movie and that's Michelle a. Right, 1:35:29.040 --> 1:35:33.000 even though Michell l A, it didn't coincide, you know 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:37.080 what what in the movie did, but it also was 1:35:37.240 --> 1:35:39.240 their part of it was just her part of the story. 1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:41.920 I didn't expect it. I didn't understand it, but didn't 1:35:41.960 --> 1:35:44.639 from you as a person who said it very straight 1:35:44.720 --> 1:35:48.640 and give you my very fortom university and true at 1:35:48.680 --> 1:35:51.960 the same time, I am working on a biopic, but 1:35:52.080 --> 1:35:55.960 it's actually a companion to my New York Times best 1:35:56.000 --> 1:36:01.160 selling biography called Keep the Safe. So I wrote a 1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:09.320 book so much answered to Biggie's movie and the Funnies. 1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:12.320 Shit about that is um. When I wrote my book, 1:36:12.960 --> 1:36:15.599 the publishers put it out, and you know, I knew 1:36:15.600 --> 1:36:18.280 about Miss Wallace and the doing the Notorious movie, but 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:21.280 it wasn't like I was actively a part of you know, yeah, 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:23.920 I went and c J feeling this part and you know, 1:36:24.000 --> 1:36:25.560 you got a sign for your life, right, But it 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:28.000 wasn't like I was. But when they decided to put 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:29.640 it out, it was kind of around the song the 1:36:29.760 --> 1:36:32.040 time that they wanted to put out. I mean that 1:36:32.160 --> 1:36:34.479 the Notorious movie was coming out, and that was never 1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:37.439 my plan when I decided to write a memoir. You 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:39.080 feel me, So I kind of felt weird, like I 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:41.479 don't want people to think I'm trying to piggyback. So 1:36:41.640 --> 1:36:43.599 that's why I didn't never really go on a book too. 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:46.320 I didn't promote my book because I felt I couldn't 1:36:46.360 --> 1:36:47.800 get them to change the day. It might have been 1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:50.360 like a month or a few weeks, you know, later 1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:52.519 than the movie. But I just felt strange. I was like, 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:56.639 people want to clearly think, right, And that's I decided 1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:58.840 to do the book because I was pregnant and refused 1:36:58.920 --> 1:37:00.599 to do a record with the able. I was one 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:03.240 at the time. You know, that's the only reason I didn't. 1:37:03.320 --> 1:37:05.360 The guy was like asking me for years to write 1:37:05.360 --> 1:37:07.559 a book, and I'm like, okay, that's a cool little 1:37:07.640 --> 1:37:11.360 couple of hundred thousand, you know. Um, That's why I 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:13.360 did it. But when it decided to be when they 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:16.519 decided to release it, just so happens. The Toriis movie 1:37:16.600 --> 1:37:18.400 was coming out a month or two before, and I 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:20.479 was just like, it feels weird. But they was like, well, 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:22.920 that's not what we're based on our release on this 1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:24.719 is in the book world, and this is the window 1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:26.479 you know how that go, you know, like on the 1:37:26.680 --> 1:37:28.560 whatever day of the week they put out albums or 1:37:28.680 --> 1:37:32.120 you know. Um, So that's why I never really haven't leave. 1:37:32.280 --> 1:37:35.080 My book would have been but it's one of them 1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:41.639 called favorite movie is supposedly based off of my book. 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:43.519 Loosely based on my book because my book kind of 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.479 ended at me leaving bad Boy, but I got married 1:37:46.520 --> 1:37:49.400 after that. I had a kid after that. So there's 1:37:49.439 --> 1:37:51.559 things that's happened in my life. So obviously I'm gonna, 1:37:51.920 --> 1:37:54.280 you know, try and put some of those things in there. 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:57.479 But it's kind of based on my book, which is 1:37:57.560 --> 1:37:59.519 my story. But my story isn't based on me and 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:02.640 bigs withationship, even though that's the most sensational part of 1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.200 it and there's a huge part of my life and 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:07.800 an important part of my life. But you know, there's 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:12.120 ship that I've been before that used to get my 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:14.759 be for sneaking out the window to go to somebody's 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:16.640 studio that I ain't even you know know, I was 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:20.760 gonna be a recording artists, so you know what I 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:22.760 used to man niggas when I was a little That's 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:24.720 why Dick don't really do ship for me now, like 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:42.120 you're wait, wait let me, I don't want to ship. 1:38:43.960 --> 1:39:07.120 He's title lady right about wow. I mean when I 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:13.720 was like Fabiro Jase seventeen, I will pretty miss you 1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:16.240 with and only it was just like, oh, I like him, 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:29.519 you know. So that's why I asked that, doesn't you 1:39:30.720 --> 1:39:42.679 it's gonna be yeah, I'm letting my home lose say 1:39:45.360 --> 1:39:47.479 but you don't right to say why not. I don't 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:50.800 right the death around nobody wants to hear. Why you 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:53.880 can't say that? You can say you can't, I can't 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:56.400 you want to say I'm not like that's the voice 1:39:56.479 --> 1:40:11.200 shocking up now. I was singing this ship. I was 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:17.160 a maneuver apart. I was trying to make is that 1:40:17.520 --> 1:40:19.920 that has never been something that has driven me in turn, 1:40:20.080 --> 1:40:22.640 Like we were just talking about how people like, you know, 1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:24.680 certain people things coming on to him when we be out, 1:40:24.680 --> 1:40:26.240 and I'm like, oh my god, why she think you 1:40:26.320 --> 1:40:29.120 don't like you don't have a label, Like so she 1:40:29.240 --> 1:40:31.160 wants to suck you because she thinks she's gonna be all. 1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:33.759 But we know that's kind of like how this culture 1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:36.519 is a lot. But I'm like, I got that out 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:39.880 the way when I was a teenager. I ain't chick 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:57.559 trying to get way. I'm here. Don't tell my mother, 1:40:58.880 --> 1:41:04.479 don't watching. This is why to hang on. This is 1:41:04.520 --> 1:41:11.200 why you know that I got your ship. Take ship, 1:41:12.840 --> 1:41:22.880 Come on, Gary, take a ball. This is great. Let's brisk. 1:41:23.040 --> 1:41:26.160 Let's for that last one was hard. I'll take one 1:41:26.200 --> 1:41:30.479 for that. Oh my god, I don't want the one. 1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:33.680 I don't want them more. That's I'll take one more. 1:41:33.720 --> 1:41:51.639 I'll do it. I will don't talk for she don't checking. Wow. Yeah, 1:41:52.280 --> 1:41:57.600 let me tell you something. Uh actually never got this 1:41:58.200 --> 1:42:05.960 text before in my life, especially for the last two 1:42:05.960 --> 1:42:10.160 and a half years. Uh, Elliott Wilson had to text 1:42:10.240 --> 1:42:13.800 me it's that good interview with Push. Nice. You guys 1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:23.760 were focused, We were focused. I don't think there are 1:42:23.760 --> 1:42:27.479 any more focus than you've ever been. I just think, well, well, 1:42:27.600 --> 1:42:32.840 you know sometimes you know, like I would like to think, 1:42:32.920 --> 1:42:37.360 Elliott Wilson, I'll pick you up y and and I 1:42:37.400 --> 1:42:40.439 will also because I did, I did take that part 1:42:41.120 --> 1:42:46.320 of be dots when so many people were like push 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:50.040 Push your this phenomenal body your work, when I yeah, 1:42:50.280 --> 1:42:53.960 and everybody asking them about Drake right, funk that let's 1:42:54.000 --> 1:42:57.479 talk about your body at work. So I'm I'm just sorry, 1:42:57.600 --> 1:43:02.280 just had a moment clarity, but faith, yes, you've got 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:09.479 to be like the realest woman perfect. Sorry, I'm not 1:43:09.680 --> 1:43:14.519 sorry for you. I'm sorry for anything that people because no, honestly, 1:43:14.640 --> 1:43:18.320 I know I get really, I mean, I'm just I'm comfortable. No, no, 1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:22.400 this to me all the time, I forgot the cameras 1:43:22.479 --> 1:43:35.160 was there sometimes that you didn't But that's why that's 1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:38.400 like you like, you just sugned me real quick, like 1:43:39.320 --> 1:43:42.400 I like, yo, come on, y'all know. But that's why 1:43:42.439 --> 1:43:45.320 I like, I always defended you with that the picture. 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:47.240 It was because I know you like and I know 1:43:47.400 --> 1:43:51.600 like your lovable person energy. Your energy is just like 1:43:51.840 --> 1:43:53.599 I kid you not. I met you in Justice one 1:43:53.760 --> 1:43:56.000 day and I stood there and I get you a 1:43:56.080 --> 1:43:57.720 hug or something like, you know how people like you 1:43:57.760 --> 1:44:00.360 know I'm Spanish, so when we get a breaking you know, 1:44:00.479 --> 1:44:02.280 we kiss you on the side of your cheek and 1:44:02.360 --> 1:44:05.800 I guess you must have smelled muslim oil and mad marijuana. 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.640 He was like, nigga, you got mad We we do? 1:44:09.040 --> 1:44:20.720 And I was like, yeah, we don you know what 1:44:20.800 --> 1:44:25.240 I mean. And I was like, yo, you know, I 1:44:25.400 --> 1:44:28.439 got you and and we we came out side playing smoke. 1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:31.479 We gave out side smoked and you were so lovable 1:44:31.600 --> 1:44:33.800 and I was just like and it made me think 1:44:33.840 --> 1:44:35.920 back on that picture. I said, that ship it has 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:39.040 nothing to do with us. He was that happened in 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:44.880 the industry, where with nobody's situation ain't nothing to me, 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:47.920 especially when it's a female too. We know. Looking It's 1:44:47.920 --> 1:44:50.439 funny because that picture was the very first time I 1:44:51.560 --> 1:44:54.040 somebody made to sing the picture and thought we had 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:56.880 hung out several times. That's the first time I met him, 1:44:56.880 --> 1:44:59.160 only because Ruck saying, hey, Tutok want to meet you, 1:44:59.680 --> 1:45:01.519 and you know why, you didn't know how it was 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:10.120 a little definitely you could see like I did not 1:45:10.200 --> 1:45:13.240 do the FIA because I'm like I did. It was high, 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:19.640 but it might have been like it was supposed to be. 1:45:20.439 --> 1:45:22.880 So somebody asked you something, is it anything if you 1:45:22.960 --> 1:45:26.720 could do over in in this game, over the one 1:45:26.800 --> 1:45:32.960 thing that you want to do over um? That's an 1:45:33.000 --> 1:45:35.280 okair question to say one thing you want to be 1:45:35.760 --> 1:45:39.640 Because I did a song and it goes um and 1:45:39.720 --> 1:45:45.840 it's kind of a general just like because you're about 1:45:45.880 --> 1:45:49.240 to go into your ship. I was just like, yeah, 1:45:49.240 --> 1:45:51.040 I know, she just throwing off the head. I don't know, 1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:03.120 but it's you know, it's like okay. In two thousand 1:46:03.160 --> 1:46:05.200 and five, I came out with my album and Capital. 1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:07.120 That was my first deal after I left the bad 1:46:07.160 --> 1:46:10.040 Boy Just who happened? I got arrested with my ex 1:46:10.160 --> 1:46:23.120 husband saying I was not quiet. I said nothing, no 1:46:23.520 --> 1:46:32.800 finished ahead anyway, getting crazy. I'm not even gonna go there. 1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:35.519 Nothing less. I came out with my album on my 1:46:35.680 --> 1:46:38.439 new label after leaving Bad Boy, and it was like, okay, 1:46:38.800 --> 1:46:40.519 this is the first one that you got, but you 1:46:40.680 --> 1:46:45.200 just got arrested. Even though you're arrested, was a little 1:46:45.280 --> 1:46:50.360 purported and anyway, people basically say, like, you know, I 1:46:50.439 --> 1:46:52.280 had to be a rehab for crack. It was like 1:46:52.360 --> 1:46:55.360 some real bullshit, Like anyway, the real story, I picked 1:46:55.360 --> 1:46:56.960 my husband up from the airport and they checked the 1:46:57.000 --> 1:46:59.240 slug as they found a cigarette case with a joint 1:46:59.760 --> 1:47:03.720 and and you know something that they said was either 1:47:03.840 --> 1:47:06.920 ecstasy or cocaine, but they never sent to a laugh. 1:47:07.400 --> 1:47:09.320 But I happened to be the driver, and I happened 1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:11.320 to be the one that was a famous person, and 1:47:11.439 --> 1:47:13.479 he happened to not say, hey, that was just mine. 1:47:13.840 --> 1:47:16.080 So I happen to have to go down and it's 1:47:16.080 --> 1:47:23.479 all good because you know, I'm no But anyway, I 1:47:23.600 --> 1:47:25.120 still got to be the one to get both of 1:47:25.240 --> 1:47:28.040 us out for me, so why not. Anyway, the point 1:47:28.080 --> 1:47:35.240 I'm making this um and they like, and I was like, 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:36.960 I got this there, you know, I got this is 1:47:37.000 --> 1:47:39.360 my first thing. So the hook goes, if I had 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:45.000 to do it all again, I wouldn't take away the 1:47:45.280 --> 1:47:48.960 rain because I know it made me who I am. 1:47:49.680 --> 1:48:00.040 So basically a lot of ship happened. That's okay, I 1:48:02.600 --> 1:48:09.680 don't flow that ship again. Like there's so much stuff that, 1:48:09.920 --> 1:48:12.200 yeah I had I known, and I wouldn't. But I'm 1:48:12.240 --> 1:48:15.759 really not mad because even sometimes i'd be like, people 1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:19.160 think that I'm just like gay. So I guess I 1:48:19.280 --> 1:48:21.640 am in the way of I don't like nobody to 1:48:21.720 --> 1:48:23.800 play me, but I'm not like some bits that like 1:48:23.920 --> 1:48:27.960 to fight, and like all my cousins like all my life. 1:48:28.479 --> 1:48:31.679 I know my cousin's want to me all my life, 1:48:31.760 --> 1:48:36.639 like my grandmother like, so I never was a fighter 1:48:36.720 --> 1:48:39.280 in terms of I want to fight, but I was 1:48:39.360 --> 1:48:41.800 in the industry as a that was a new thing. 1:48:42.040 --> 1:48:44.080 And I'm from the church. I just said I didn't 1:48:44.080 --> 1:48:46.880 never want nobody's things ship with sweet, so I kind 1:48:46.880 --> 1:48:50.320 of had some feel like I feel like you were 1:48:50.920 --> 1:48:56.760 just saying I'm from the church. I'm saying nothing. It's 1:48:56.800 --> 1:49:10.000 like knock knock stamp. I don't like. I don't really 1:49:10.120 --> 1:49:11.920 like the fact that people think that way with me 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:19.760 because I'm such as I'm saying the fact that I'm 1:49:19.880 --> 1:49:22.920 just cool. I really people help people like, oh, shoot, 1:49:22.960 --> 1:49:24.680 let me connect you. I don't want to know. I 1:49:24.720 --> 1:49:26.640 don't want to be your nothing to pop be like, 1:49:26.640 --> 1:49:28.640 why don't you man? I'm know I would connect you 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:31.960 with them. I know nothing from it. I don't want that. 1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:33.519 I just, you know, let me help you out in 1:49:33.600 --> 1:49:35.840 whatever way I can. But I'm not that person. You 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:38.000 know what I'm saying. I got kids worried out about 1:49:38.080 --> 1:49:41.000 my letting yours. He's on an artism spectrum, so my 1:49:41.200 --> 1:49:45.080 energy has to go into a more more productive place 1:49:45.160 --> 1:49:48.400 and more progressive place, so um, you know. But then 1:49:48.439 --> 1:49:50.000 I'd be like, I ain't kind of mat that they know, 1:49:50.080 --> 1:49:55.760 don't fuck me. That ship is not sweet either though, 1:49:57.040 --> 1:49:59.719 And I will call my motherfucking cousins from a leven 1:49:59.720 --> 1:50:02.120 grom An avenue and I would want my names from 1:50:02.160 --> 1:50:07.560 Brooklyn and will be like, no, I know it's you. 1:50:14.439 --> 1:50:19.840 I didn't say that with like, we're not wepping. We 1:50:19.920 --> 1:50:23.840 don't be got no weapons, we don't we got no best. 1:50:26.680 --> 1:50:29.559 So so le's have another one. I'm gona have another one. 1:50:32.360 --> 1:50:35.320 Children were talking about another one. Another shot of Tiger 1:50:37.960 --> 1:50:42.560 you gouts a ridiculous line, I'm a I gotta I 1:50:42.560 --> 1:50:45.080 gotta go Pepe. Let me go first, the fastest of 1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:53.599 the fast, mad fast. Oh my god, this is mother 1:50:53.640 --> 1:50:58.040 come out with leap hang out. No me, I'm going 1:50:58.080 --> 1:51:00.720 to sleep with Leaves. No, I'm is something. I'm going 1:51:00.760 --> 1:51:02.720 to hang out with le like right there. I'm going 1:51:02.880 --> 1:51:11.120 right there and ship with league r. Come on, leg 1:51:11.400 --> 1:51:13.599 we haven't see your version of the show. We got it. Yeah, 1:51:14.200 --> 1:51:23.120 we scorn just now the talk. I'm good water. Did 1:51:23.160 --> 1:51:30.519 you feel you're honestly, this is the most tiger bone 1:51:30.520 --> 1:51:34.519 that we've drank in one episode. This is a new model. Yeah, 1:51:34.680 --> 1:51:37.960 I promise you first this mante this with this many people. 1:51:38.080 --> 1:51:46.160 There's many people like Brandon. No, he had us slod 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:50.040 on that type. Brandon was on the tyger bone. That's 1:51:50.080 --> 1:51:51.920 my first job. I don't even know where the first 1:51:52.000 --> 1:51:55.000 term there was the first shot out of talk about 1:51:55.800 --> 1:51:59.479 at Night. Yo, you don't remember. Whispering doesn't work. No, 1:51:59.640 --> 1:52:02.360 we got the right here, but I don't know what 1:52:02.760 --> 1:52:06.759 it was. You don't remember we was up there with Chico. 1:52:06.960 --> 1:52:11.040 It was me you Chico Bang wasn't around. It might 1:52:11.040 --> 1:52:13.519 have even been somebody from Jersey with us, like Marky 1:52:14.800 --> 1:52:17.560 Branson had us and you said, red Man put you 1:52:17.640 --> 1:52:20.080 onto the spot. Brad put me on the Branson and 1:52:20.160 --> 1:52:23.800 I introduced Branson the Big. I introduced Big Jacob with 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:27.360 Juela for the first time. I put five dollars down 1:52:27.439 --> 1:52:33.880 on the wedding ring man with cheegos, you know, Manny 1:52:35.200 --> 1:52:37.280 that that's the biggest gets joy from first. And then 1:52:38.320 --> 1:52:41.400 then Jacob to Julia was like, you know he took 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:51.439 to see if Judy you know Tito's tricks. Okay, Tito 1:52:51.600 --> 1:53:00.040 was ye green letters, you walk in it like I 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:02.800 sweep like a few years ago right now, Yeah, to 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:08.080 go passed away like yeah, yeah, you got your back, 1:53:08.520 --> 1:53:11.840 so hold on, hold on, hold on, Tito passed away. Yeah, yeah, 1:53:12.840 --> 1:53:15.439 a three years that's fight Biggs to with Tito too, 1:53:15.640 --> 1:53:21.280 that's why. And then the chips that Manni's man so 1:53:21.400 --> 1:53:28.439 before Jacob, right yo, that was their hell. You know 1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:30.439 he had the jewels like that's who you used to 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:33.519 go see first. That was be your man right there. 1:53:35.920 --> 1:53:45.040 Very looks, oh very, I didn't even see that. Nothing. 1:53:45.640 --> 1:54:07.080 Nothing like a lot of ways. Four joint got more 1:54:07.200 --> 1:54:15.360 joints to the little bit horn. It's not a little 1:54:15.360 --> 1:54:26.360 bit a little bit okay, okay, okay, anyone wants it's 1:54:26.600 --> 1:54:28.400 just in case you got no more just in kicks. 1:54:31.960 --> 1:54:35.080 So this is Drake Champs and Drink Champs. We celebrate 1:54:35.160 --> 1:54:38.840 our legends, we celebrate our people who's been here. And 1:54:40.080 --> 1:54:45.000 it's just because there is no other platform, other format, 1:54:45.520 --> 1:54:54.160 any other thing that's like this, because these people they 1:54:54.240 --> 1:54:58.240 want to write us all every time we get we 1:54:58.360 --> 1:55:02.120 have a little bit of years. Why do you think 1:55:02.200 --> 1:55:05.400 that's only an all culture? Why is that only an 1:55:05.440 --> 1:55:08.040 all culture? Is that? Is that a hip hop thing? 1:55:08.600 --> 1:55:12.640 Is it a black and Latin? Because she will say 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:15.800 that that's documented, that is it is only a hip 1:55:15.840 --> 1:55:20.040 hop is documented and hip hop after you have ten years, 1:55:20.120 --> 1:55:23.120 you are o G and o G is another world. 1:55:23.960 --> 1:55:29.760 It's like, yeah, I'm saying now they say that is 1:55:29.880 --> 1:55:34.400 a little world of calling your old dagger nogga respect 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:41.200 you because it record said something like that, call you 1:55:41.320 --> 1:55:43.560 o G. But they don't really mean it. They just 1:55:43.640 --> 1:55:48.600 calling you. Oh, you don't really see it. Yeah, that's 1:55:48.600 --> 1:55:50.680 fact and that's real ship like because we look at 1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:54.600 it like it's respect, but didn't see I expect you 1:55:54.800 --> 1:55:59.360 because you're still right here, You're still rocking, You're still yeah, 1:55:59.640 --> 1:56:02.160 I get that. It's like, no, when people say you 1:56:02.200 --> 1:56:04.000 a legend or your things like that. That's kind of 1:56:04.040 --> 1:56:10.240 niggas always sending you farewell, like every saying no, I 1:56:10.280 --> 1:56:14.440 don't see degree know a certain word you're using different 1:56:14.560 --> 1:56:19.400 undersity doesn't mean fail well, no, it doesn't mean people 1:56:21.040 --> 1:56:23.440 use the way people use you. Gonna fun with you, 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:28.400 you legendary. It's two different motherfucking places said, I think 1:56:28.960 --> 1:56:33.920 about the people use it, this society, you know, having 1:56:34.120 --> 1:56:35.840 what you do. So he's like, you know, you're calling 1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:37.680 your old g legend at the same time to get 1:56:37.680 --> 1:56:40.800 that record. You come on, how do you because you're 1:56:40.800 --> 1:56:43.560 a legend. You know, it's kind of like means the 1:56:43.680 --> 1:56:46.920 same anything. I don't look at it. It's definitely of 1:56:46.960 --> 1:56:48.840 the same thing. That's what means you have to have 1:56:49.080 --> 1:56:55.600 established a legas well. It's a good thing, fucking you 1:56:55.680 --> 1:56:57.520 know what I mean. That means somebody paid attention to 1:56:57.600 --> 1:57:01.960 certain steps like that because in kind of thing, nigga, Yeah, yeah, 1:57:02.880 --> 1:57:05.120 you're so hard for a certain amount of time. Yeah, yeah, 1:57:05.480 --> 1:57:07.960 that's when you and g because that's what that's supposed 1:57:07.960 --> 1:57:12.600 to suggest. You can from a certain time here. You 1:57:12.680 --> 1:57:16.280 may have a legacy of doing something doing something up. 1:57:17.080 --> 1:57:19.080 But sad as the way people say it that. I 1:57:19.160 --> 1:57:22.520 think that's what the kids saying to that in the streets. 1:57:22.560 --> 1:57:25.160 He told right now, I don't think that of me. 1:57:25.520 --> 1:57:27.600 What I'm saying I was know about. I understand when 1:57:27.600 --> 1:57:29.640 they they they bigging me up, and I understand when 1:57:29.640 --> 1:57:32.440 they come it's like that's what they know. Niggers like 1:57:32.840 --> 1:57:43.880 like saying you're doing more time to sing? Yeah, saying nigger, 1:57:43.920 --> 1:57:46.280 you ain't coming out here. You know you're here for 1:57:46.400 --> 1:57:50.040 this five minutes. Enough cool, you're gonna get the funk 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:52.240 about Cool with that, but that's not gonna take that. 1:57:52.360 --> 1:57:55.120 Sometimes I'm takigg like yeah, like I said, like, yeah, 1:57:55.160 --> 1:57:59.360 my nigga, you had jews, You're good. Keep me nobody 1:57:59.360 --> 1:58:03.040 you knew. Ship sunk with you. I'm not expecting about 1:58:04.360 --> 1:58:08.400 day made me some say with me with me something 1:58:08.560 --> 1:58:12.680 just don't like that. What you know what legend legend. 1:58:13.440 --> 1:58:17.440 I'm seeing people from legend be tweaking back and legend 1:58:17.520 --> 1:58:19.120 and you know because I was one of those, Like now, 1:58:19.320 --> 1:58:20.760 I didn't put in that work for that, but I 1:58:20.880 --> 1:58:23.320 get what people saying. I mean like they're just trying 1:58:23.360 --> 1:58:25.760 to give you props. But to me, I could be like, no, 1:58:25.960 --> 1:58:29.880 I think you're saying I'm done. What you gotta think about? Okay, 1:58:30.160 --> 1:58:32.880 back to on the on the sidell what you said 1:58:32.880 --> 1:58:36.240 about how fast if moves. Now for them to say 1:58:36.360 --> 1:58:38.720 legend that ship for their moves, and yeah, that's what 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:41.800 you see. That's why, that's why they say some classic 1:58:41.920 --> 1:58:47.680 albums is two days right, come no ship, come out 1:58:47.720 --> 1:58:52.440 Friday and say it's a classic by Sunday. I think 1:58:53.040 --> 1:58:56.040 album was a classic, but when did it cleared the 1:58:56.160 --> 1:59:01.520 classic It was not even right like they said Friday's 1:59:01.520 --> 1:59:04.040 album came out and they said it's a classic by Sunday, 1:59:04.200 --> 1:59:08.720 and I said, maybe Sunday of two more years. That's 1:59:08.760 --> 1:59:13.160 what I can't do it love and I love that album, 1:59:13.360 --> 1:59:15.960 but I'm just saying that the fact that Timeline and 1:59:16.040 --> 1:59:18.920 they did that, like Reverdy died wasn't cleared a classif 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:23.080 the year two years later, Ill Mattock shook ones if 1:59:23.120 --> 1:59:27.680 Amos marb album, you know snoop all the times making 1:59:27.760 --> 1:59:32.520 a classic classic Now you can't judge, can't come on 1:59:32.560 --> 1:59:36.600 the day, no, you know Wednesday, it's a class run 1:59:37.200 --> 1:59:42.800 like they run fast, like they did attention to people 1:59:42.840 --> 1:59:44.280 at the end of that year. So what they say, 1:59:44.520 --> 1:59:47.480 you kept my attention for more than it's like it's 1:59:47.800 --> 1:59:50.120 to be. They're forced to work a lot. Like we 1:59:50.280 --> 1:59:52.880 used to put out classics like once that six months 1:59:52.920 --> 1:59:55.440 a year, you know, and made you appreciated artist. You 1:59:55.480 --> 1:59:58.160 didn't flood them. Now you have to just like gotta 1:59:58.160 --> 2:00:00.680 do free freest down just for Instagram. That is just 2:00:00.880 --> 2:00:03.040 like you know, you you you compete, you have to 2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:09.000 constantly and it's just different Master. It's more access so 2:00:09.120 --> 2:00:12.440 it's like whereas it's easier to get your ship heard 2:00:12.640 --> 2:00:15.320 or whether it becomes super popular or not as easy 2:00:15.360 --> 2:00:17.640 as so much ship out there, but it's so much 2:00:17.720 --> 2:00:20.760 more bullshit too. It's like more crowded. So it's like, yea, 2:00:22.160 --> 2:00:23.720 so how am I such a punt? The ship that's 2:00:23.760 --> 2:00:26.920 really hot? So what you do? You know what you like? 2:00:27.080 --> 2:00:30.880 More independent or major? I don't know because I really 2:00:32.600 --> 2:00:39.280 I mean you independence, I don't. I mean my last 2:00:39.360 --> 2:00:42.440 I'm mcking and I I did with Rhino Records, which 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:48.480 is a subsidiary of Universal. Okay, it's under Universital Atlantic, 2:00:49.160 --> 2:00:53.240 but it's still um. They are who acquired the Masters 2:00:53.320 --> 2:00:55.840 from bad Boy, you know, Puff sold the Masters. He's 2:00:55.840 --> 2:00:58.920 sold them to Atlantic, so that's they do the box set. Okay, 2:00:59.080 --> 2:01:07.640 they owe my ship too good? Feeling so good? I go, yeah, 2:01:08.440 --> 2:01:25.960 taking I gotta do. You got to connect. But uh, 2:01:26.680 --> 2:01:29.240 you know that was a situation of them acquiring the masses? 2:01:29.320 --> 2:01:30.960 What the fun was the what the point I was 2:01:31.040 --> 2:01:38.560 making the first point what you said versus major? But 2:01:40.920 --> 2:01:43.640 I gotta mean show with the game. You know what's 2:01:43.640 --> 2:01:45.680 the crazy about you? You always gonna be a little bro, 2:01:46.560 --> 2:01:50.400 you know, bro to be like whatever you're gonn always 2:01:50.400 --> 2:01:52.360 be a little bro. Like that's what I'm doing. Just 2:01:52.880 --> 2:01:57.920 you gotta be a little bro. I'm not gonna read. Okay, okay, 2:01:58.160 --> 2:02:01.440 we're doing rose and once I'm talking about you promised 2:02:01.520 --> 2:02:13.280 us one time. We don't have just yeah, yeah, this 2:02:13.400 --> 2:02:19.920 is no, we're quitting. This is a term that he's 2:02:19.960 --> 2:02:24.600 not gonna say that. He's not gonna say that. I'm 2:02:24.640 --> 2:02:28.960 gonna say something. That shot and that drink, No, that's 2:02:28.960 --> 2:02:31.800 a drink because I know that's a shot coming how many? 2:02:31.800 --> 2:02:35.320 Because you know what people knowing more than anyone. So 2:02:35.440 --> 2:02:37.760 why you're not worried about me? Are you funked up? 2:02:39.120 --> 2:02:42.040 My body? So I'm playing now you know what I'm 2:02:42.120 --> 2:02:49.040 cook Uh, Faith your queen and we want you to recognize. 2:02:49.080 --> 2:02:50.800 We want you to understand, We want you to know 2:02:51.440 --> 2:03:01.120 that you appreciate it over here. Yeah, it's because it's 2:03:01.160 --> 2:03:06.200 because again I want to reiterate this, our generation, our 2:03:06.600 --> 2:03:10.280 legacy are people. We forget to pick up our own people. 2:03:10.800 --> 2:03:14.360 We were big up you know everything else. And you know, 2:03:14.480 --> 2:03:17.720 I just I just looked at ancestry dot com. And 2:03:17.840 --> 2:03:21.080 since um, you know, Wakanda came out, excuse me, since 2:03:21.080 --> 2:03:25.360 Black Panther came out, we all want to go, you know, 2:03:25.880 --> 2:03:28.920 research our fucking roots. Anybody want to be from a 2:03:29.000 --> 2:03:37.920 CALMDA right now is what we gotta do. We gotta 2:03:37.960 --> 2:03:41.160 continue to pack each other up because to me, to me, 2:03:41.280 --> 2:03:43.160 it's not about a race. To me, it's not about 2:03:43.160 --> 2:03:46.720 being black, white, Latino or whatever. To me, it's about 2:03:46.800 --> 2:03:51.680 being hip hop. Sometimes hip hop is are nationality. Sometimes 2:03:51.800 --> 2:03:54.480 hip hop is a coach. If we all sit together 2:03:54.520 --> 2:03:58.640 and we all love the same artists, that transition, that 2:03:58.760 --> 2:04:04.000 trans say and transcends, you know, love and general transcend 2:04:04.480 --> 2:04:08.320 and love love of whatever, your love with someone's spirit, 2:04:08.400 --> 2:04:10.960 your love of music, your love is when someone's personality, 2:04:11.960 --> 2:04:16.120 it's love period that transcends. Music plays into that. But 2:04:16.360 --> 2:04:18.800 that lets you know how much of music, you know, 2:04:18.960 --> 2:04:21.320 and the positive size of it is a part of love. 2:04:21.520 --> 2:04:24.160 You feel me. I'm saying, it's just like all a 2:04:24.240 --> 2:04:26.240 lot of energy, and I'm not so deep as bitch. 2:04:26.520 --> 2:04:28.880 I mean, I mean not like that, no blaspheme. I 2:04:28.960 --> 2:04:31.080 love the Lord. I grew up in church, but it's 2:04:31.120 --> 2:04:33.840 not so much about the Bible specifically. I'm just like 2:04:34.000 --> 2:04:36.480 a I like the energy. I like to feel good. 2:04:36.520 --> 2:04:39.240 I like to make people feel I'm not a negative bitch, 2:04:39.280 --> 2:04:41.040 I don't you know. I don't want no problems. But 2:04:41.160 --> 2:04:43.280 don't sunk with me either, though. But I'm just saying, 2:04:44.040 --> 2:04:46.120 don't trying to play. You can suck with me and 2:04:46.160 --> 2:04:48.120 I'll be like, Okay, I have a great day. You 2:04:48.200 --> 2:04:49.680 know what I mean. But I'm just saying, you know, 2:04:59.240 --> 2:05:02.360 I can't come out here. I'm like, where you win 2:05:04.000 --> 2:05:11.120 your crazy? Ya know? Okay? It was like, I love 2:05:11.200 --> 2:05:19.440 you're playing this. I was listening to mend for the Headlock. 2:05:21.080 --> 2:05:25.600 It's all right, they don't want it. We got one shot. 2:05:26.160 --> 2:05:28.800 You know it's gonna be one more. I'm not ship. 2:05:29.040 --> 2:05:35.920 Let's coold him who even asked for the shot? Finished 2:05:35.920 --> 2:05:43.400 my story anyway, I'm not I'm scared the horn. This 2:05:43.720 --> 2:05:55.320 this this horn works like Sonny's kids don't exist. I went, 2:05:56.160 --> 2:06:00.480 I went to a friend. I went to be honest. 2:06:00.600 --> 2:06:02.720 My nig my nigga forty nine, How old are you? 2:06:03.000 --> 2:06:11.760 Forty nine? That's my boy. He's been going to roast 2:06:11.840 --> 2:06:16.920 his nineteen he got, he got a side baby, and 2:06:17.640 --> 2:06:21.520 he just puts taking boat Cabins Fats ship. I'm just 2:06:23.320 --> 2:06:28.840 don't I'm tying you. Listen, man, you don't get a 2:06:28.880 --> 2:06:36.520 Cabins Fats when his side ship. I want to see you, 2:06:36.600 --> 2:06:43.040 got ya, y'all. I'm not just your boy work. I'm 2:06:43.040 --> 2:06:47.920 gonna It's been a very slight shot and I'm my white. 2:06:48.000 --> 2:06:51.280 I maintained that I balanced myself good to that I'm 2:06:51.320 --> 2:06:54.440 not really usually I'm not ready to say. I'm trying 2:06:54.440 --> 2:06:56.000 to get to that. Y'all need to nick at the 2:06:56.080 --> 2:06:58.880 moment for the gotty level, because I'm trying to get 2:06:58.880 --> 2:07:06.080 to the gotty levels. My best interview you a little bit, 2:07:06.160 --> 2:07:11.000 a little bit bit. I got drink the last No, 2:07:11.800 --> 2:07:15.960 I'm drink the last one. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna 2:07:16.360 --> 2:07:20.120 to you. I'm quite you, absolutely, queen. I love you. 2:07:20.200 --> 2:07:26.000 Fishy Heppy birthday her birthday just last birthday, shamming. I 2:07:26.040 --> 2:07:32.520 see you. Let's still a birthday. I'll be honest. Oh why, 2:07:36.200 --> 2:07:40.480 I'll be honest. You're stupid shows on jet. We got gifts, 2:07:41.560 --> 2:07:46.200 Oh yeah, we do, got so we got gifts of 2:07:46.520 --> 2:07:49.760 let the tiger suttle. Yeah, I gotta let we got 2:07:51.560 --> 2:08:00.360 got drink chance somebody two shorts from last time. Actually 2:08:00.720 --> 2:08:02.600 that's not that's that's an extra. I just threw that 2:08:02.680 --> 2:08:15.360 into you don't have shot for what though, I don't 2:08:15.360 --> 2:08:17.360 know what. I'm not taking any more shots to that. 2:08:18.040 --> 2:08:23.280 We did it because because she requested it. Big facts. 2:08:25.720 --> 2:08:30.840 I can see this. She sus me to death, but 2:08:30.920 --> 2:08:39.640 I see it's no way I'm assist. But I'm saying 2:08:39.680 --> 2:08:43.240 the wh I'm done. It's family right there. That's not 2:08:43.360 --> 2:08:45.120 supposed to be that. You know what I mean? You 2:08:45.200 --> 2:08:47.640 know I look out for you all the time. You 2:08:47.680 --> 2:08:50.960 want me? Okay, okay, let me ask you a question, 2:08:51.080 --> 2:08:57.000 right me, moving case solo right now, just met okay, 2:08:57.040 --> 2:08:59.520 so let me ask you a question. It's my birthday. 2:08:59.520 --> 2:09:01.680 I want to I've just freedom. My son is with 2:09:01.800 --> 2:09:15.880 his dad for we funck everything. We're like we over 2:09:16.040 --> 2:09:19.880 the one like I'm down. Fuck it, I'm down. We 2:09:20.200 --> 2:09:25.960 rolled like two nas like we just unsolved. We're seeing 2:09:26.040 --> 2:09:29.600 a notorious movie. We're seeing through a two pat movie. 2:09:30.080 --> 2:09:34.280 We're seeing, Um, Johnny Depp even got the piece of this. 2:09:34.720 --> 2:09:41.000 That's crazy. When is the Seas Faith story? We were 2:09:41.080 --> 2:09:44.760 just talking about that My movie is actually it's not 2:09:44.840 --> 2:09:46.600 a feature film, but I am in a deal with 2:09:46.880 --> 2:09:56.240 viacom and to do a picture based on what we 2:09:56.320 --> 2:10:00.680 were talking about the Pp on my book. Remember it's 2:10:00.720 --> 2:10:03.360 based on my book yeah, before you got the peep 2:10:03.800 --> 2:10:07.720 But anyway, Yeah, it's coming out soon. But I'm just 2:10:07.920 --> 2:10:10.640 kind of I don't know, I wasn't so sure about 2:10:10.680 --> 2:10:13.520 it for so long because I'm like, I'm not really 2:10:13.640 --> 2:10:16.000 pressed like that, you know, but because if it ain't, 2:10:16.760 --> 2:10:20.040 if they don't really be but yeah, but they ain't 2:10:20.080 --> 2:10:23.200 tell my story. They told whatever they told. My story 2:10:23.320 --> 2:10:26.920 is my fucking story. Nobody can't tell my story for me. 2:10:27.800 --> 2:10:32.120 But um, my part of my life and story has 2:10:32.240 --> 2:10:37.920 been depicted in other people's stories, some accurately, some not 2:10:38.080 --> 2:10:41.480 so accurately. But you know, it's I just was kind 2:10:41.520 --> 2:10:43.440 of toying with it. But I think it's gonna come 2:10:43.440 --> 2:10:46.080 out good. You know. I'm like very careful about stuff 2:10:46.120 --> 2:10:47.680 like that. If it ain't gonna be right, it ain't 2:10:47.680 --> 2:10:49.880 gonna be right. It's not like that ain't gonna make 2:10:49.960 --> 2:10:51.720 a difference in my life to do a movie that 2:10:51.760 --> 2:10:54.120 ain't really completely a true story, just to say I 2:10:54.200 --> 2:10:56.720 had a movie on TV. You know what I'm saying, Like, 2:10:57.280 --> 2:10:59.160 who the cares? If that's the case. I've done the 2:10:59.240 --> 2:11:02.840 reality show, you know, a long time ago, and you know, 2:11:03.080 --> 2:11:05.160 like I'm just certain things. I'm just like that don't 2:11:05.200 --> 2:11:08.280 make sense for me, Like that ain't real ship, Like 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:10.880 my real ship is actually right now, let's shot just 2:11:11.440 --> 2:11:14.280 like this is a little more closer to you know 2:11:14.320 --> 2:11:22.800 what I mean, God, God, damnit man, this real ship? Man? 2:11:22.880 --> 2:11:25.080 You know what, because you know why we get we 2:11:25.160 --> 2:11:30.760 get to hear the stories from sidelines to Herrod, you know, 2:11:30.920 --> 2:11:35.520 from you to to see you, you know, first of 2:11:35.880 --> 2:11:41.160 so beautiful, so coming back to life so put together. Um, 2:11:41.480 --> 2:11:43.520 we want to pick that up. We want to we 2:11:43.640 --> 2:11:45.400 want to salute that, We want to you know what 2:11:45.400 --> 2:11:48.040 I mean. Yeah, yeah, that's why I got that. But 2:11:49.960 --> 2:11:59.960 I don't know. So, um so really, really, so were 2:12:00.040 --> 2:12:02.920 you after all the things you've done in your life? Really, 2:12:03.000 --> 2:12:07.960 what's next? Like, really, what do you want to do next, Like, um, well, 2:12:08.880 --> 2:12:11.400 music is always going to be a great part of 2:12:11.480 --> 2:12:13.040 my life. And like you was saying, you still love 2:12:13.120 --> 2:12:15.320 the game. It's not so much that I've never lost 2:12:15.400 --> 2:12:19.520 a love for creating great music, whether it's popular, whether 2:12:19.680 --> 2:12:22.080 niggas is really buying it, Like I really get off. 2:12:22.160 --> 2:12:23.800 I know I'm good at that ship. I go on 2:12:23.840 --> 2:12:27.760 the booth and I'm the truth. I'm just saying. I mean, 2:12:27.920 --> 2:12:30.840 you might not hear it, like somebody's looks like I 2:12:31.000 --> 2:12:32.840 never heard this song like Nigi. It was on my 2:12:33.240 --> 2:12:35.680 couple of independent projects. But you know it's like that's 2:12:35.680 --> 2:12:38.520 not why I do it. It's like I have a 2:12:38.640 --> 2:12:41.560 gift for that, but I've also been blessed to understand 2:12:41.640 --> 2:12:44.960 and use my acumen to do other things, Like you're 2:12:45.000 --> 2:12:47.400 doing this thing, you know what I'm saying, You extend 2:12:47.440 --> 2:12:49.440 your life in other ways. Like I was a creator 2:12:49.480 --> 2:12:52.200 and executive producer of R and B Divas. You know 2:12:52.240 --> 2:12:57.840 what I'm saying that right that. You know, although after 2:12:57.920 --> 2:13:02.360 the first season they kind of shifted the creative spirit 2:13:02.440 --> 2:13:04.560 of it, but you know it was a not under 2:13:04.640 --> 2:13:06.320 my belt, you know what I'm saying in that lane, 2:13:06.440 --> 2:13:09.200 So you know I'm always pitching stuff in the in 2:13:09.520 --> 2:13:12.480 the TV world too, So you know, I'm just trying 2:13:12.520 --> 2:13:14.960 to like do the stuff that I can do that 2:13:15.120 --> 2:13:17.320 makes sense for me, you know what I'm saying, And 2:13:17.440 --> 2:13:20.120 that of course makes money, but the money has to 2:13:20.200 --> 2:13:23.920 make sense, so all money don't make sense. So I 2:13:24.080 --> 2:13:26.560 know you said that you and Kim patched it up 2:13:26.760 --> 2:13:29.920 after Big God, but I didn't say that. What I 2:13:30.040 --> 2:13:35.160 did say was any any ill feelings that I had 2:13:35.240 --> 2:13:37.680 to Kim or be that what the funk I'm gonna 2:13:37.680 --> 2:13:40.000 be mad at you for if he's dead. But um, 2:13:40.080 --> 2:13:43.160 not until I decided to do The King and Our 2:13:43.200 --> 2:13:46.680 album was I able to. Really, that's so crazy. I 2:13:46.800 --> 2:13:48.840 just did an interview with Hollywood Unlocked. I don't know 2:13:48.880 --> 2:13:51.760 if that's okay to mention that on him. Okay, But 2:13:51.880 --> 2:13:57.480 I did an interview up that they were talking about 2:13:57.560 --> 2:13:59.920 the Backboys. I'm getting every the kid stop won't sad, 2:14:00.000 --> 2:14:01.480 and they was like, you know, we see how puff 2:14:01.520 --> 2:14:03.080 watch you all back together, And I was like, hold on, 2:14:03.240 --> 2:14:05.640 let's be clear. You know what I'm saying, Like no, 2:14:06.440 --> 2:14:08.720 me and Sees was actually sitting on the speaker's in 2:14:08.800 --> 2:14:11.880 rehearsal for the Bad Boy Tour. And I had already 2:14:11.960 --> 2:14:13.920 said I want him on this me and big album 2:14:14.000 --> 2:14:17.360 that I'm doing, you know, and that was my first 2:14:17.440 --> 2:14:20.600 I had probably reached out to whoever her manager, and 2:14:20.840 --> 2:14:22.640 maybe even since the track. I don't even know if 2:14:22.640 --> 2:14:24.600 I had to track it, but I probably reached out 2:14:24.600 --> 2:14:26.080 and said I want her on this album and she 2:14:26.200 --> 2:14:28.760 said yeah, through them, but this is my first time 2:14:28.880 --> 2:14:31.040 seeing her, and he was like, Yo, they're o him 2:14:31.120 --> 2:14:33.600 right there. You know. It was really on the humbug. 2:14:34.280 --> 2:14:35.840 I was like, oh, shoot, let me go talk to 2:14:36.240 --> 2:14:39.120 but the cameras is everywhere, so we're catching everything. Meanwhile, 2:14:39.560 --> 2:14:41.800 the camera ship is some other ship. Everybody ain't know 2:14:41.880 --> 2:14:48.400 one like they feel the documentary anyway. But somebody thought 2:14:48.480 --> 2:14:51.160 that Puff brought me and Kim together, and I was like, no, no, 2:14:51.280 --> 2:14:53.840 shade to Puff and that was a good depiction of it. 2:14:53.960 --> 2:14:57.800 But no, I already had reached out to Kim because 2:14:57.880 --> 2:15:00.800 I'm like, this is an important album. If the nigger 2:15:00.880 --> 2:15:03.160 was alive, we definitely did an album together. Not have 2:15:03.280 --> 2:15:05.920 definitely been like Nick and this would be flies we 2:15:06.440 --> 2:15:08.320 you know, whether he was working on who the funk ever? 2:15:08.480 --> 2:15:11.600 Like if the bitches dope up saying you know what 2:15:11.640 --> 2:15:14.320 I mean, like, so it just made sense to me, 2:15:14.440 --> 2:15:16.880 especially with that song. We both loved him so but 2:15:17.000 --> 2:15:20.240 it wasn't a tough thing to say you do that, 2:15:20.480 --> 2:15:21.960 you know what I mean? It was more so me 2:15:22.040 --> 2:15:24.920 and she sitting on the speaker. I'm like yo, He's 2:15:24.920 --> 2:15:27.760 like yo, came. I'm like where He's like she right there. 2:15:27.800 --> 2:15:29.760 I was like, oh, ship, let me go talk to it. 2:15:30.000 --> 2:15:32.560 So the camera saw that, so they put it, you know, 2:15:33.240 --> 2:15:35.320 not saying they made it up and said that in 2:15:35.400 --> 2:15:37.960 the documented but people took it like that was the 2:15:38.080 --> 2:15:41.320 moment that, you know, but it wasn't like that. It 2:15:41.360 --> 2:15:44.240 wasn't more so, that's just the ship that I'm on, 2:15:44.480 --> 2:15:47.200 you know what I mean. I'm not really tripping like that. Goddamn, 2:15:51.920 --> 2:16:03.320 I don't want to work. It's like, right now, that's 2:16:08.520 --> 2:16:19.160 what I've got. Access's coming, She's coming out, alright. I'm sorry, 2:16:19.240 --> 2:16:23.400 I'm saying I don't know, I don't don't care. She's 2:16:23.440 --> 2:16:28.800 coming your ass access before we leave. Okay, what happened? 2:16:32.160 --> 2:16:34.039 Because it's like a big question. You gott to cover 2:16:34.160 --> 2:16:39.760 his because it's a big way. Let me, I'm covering mind, 2:16:41.879 --> 2:16:44.600 it's a big question to drink. What the fuck the 2:16:44.879 --> 2:16:51.720 big eat ass. Yeah, I get that depends on who. 2:16:54.320 --> 2:17:04.400 I don't know. He ain't mine your time. I'm bad 2:17:08.400 --> 2:17:29.360 shem sificating way, that was a pretty question. You look, 2:17:35.240 --> 2:17:46.800 I listen, man make very bigger real horn, right, I'm 2:17:46.840 --> 2:17:54.440 around Jim out too short. It's good. That's got to 2:17:54.520 --> 2:18:06.960 do it, Jim. I'm I'm just saying I'm season but 2:18:10.200 --> 2:18:12.960 now but now de rock Also, um, I see a 2:18:12.959 --> 2:18:19.520 little and he said. He expressed the fact that he 2:18:19.600 --> 2:18:23.199 didn't want people to celebrate March knife. He wanted people 2:18:23.240 --> 2:18:29.080 to celebrate BIG's birthday. What days, So he expressed that 2:18:29.120 --> 2:18:33.000 he said March ninth. He really didn't like people selling 2:18:33.200 --> 2:18:36.199 people do that. People feel like, let me say something, okay, 2:18:36.400 --> 2:18:38.920 because in the movie when you keep referring to the movie, 2:18:39.240 --> 2:18:41.880 you know that scene where and we saw it in 2:18:41.959 --> 2:18:45.160 the press when people saw the people celebrating. But to 2:18:45.360 --> 2:18:48.480 understand like how goold that was and on everything, like 2:18:48.600 --> 2:18:51.360 when you see Angelo basket and it was like when 2:18:51.440 --> 2:18:54.279 we rolled from mind You, it wasn't just in bookly 2:18:54.360 --> 2:18:58.840 we wrote from Frankie Campbell in the city do whatever area? 2:18:59.080 --> 2:19:03.360 What uh JFK, what is that east side thing? That? 2:19:03.480 --> 2:19:04.920 What's that ship? On the East Side. Is that the 2:19:05.000 --> 2:19:08.640 J afterr JFK after your you know what I'm talking about. 2:19:09.080 --> 2:19:12.320 And it was Nigga's in every building was a project, 2:19:12.440 --> 2:19:15.800 whether it was an office building. They was in every window, 2:19:15.920 --> 2:19:18.320 like and look, you saw my answered the basket, Like 2:19:18.600 --> 2:19:21.000 I was in the car with Mrs Wallace. She really 2:19:21.120 --> 2:19:26.879 was sitting there. That's when she realized, I saw it myself. 2:19:27.680 --> 2:19:29.120 I was in the car with her, and I was 2:19:29.200 --> 2:19:33.320 so happy that in that sad moment see her realize 2:19:33.959 --> 2:19:37.520 how people fused with her son, like it was crazy. 2:19:38.600 --> 2:19:41.560 That ship was crazy. She you know, she don't know 2:19:41.920 --> 2:19:44.240 that she was at that time. She didn't realize that 2:19:44.360 --> 2:19:48.920 that was like, you know, I was in the car, 2:19:49.080 --> 2:19:52.160 I saw her life. Oh my god, you know we're good, 2:19:52.240 --> 2:19:57.600 Miss Wallace. She oh my god. Then you really loved 2:19:57.920 --> 2:20:02.640 like was hip hop, Like you know, she had no 2:20:02.959 --> 2:20:05.720 idea of just like how big he was to that 2:20:06.240 --> 2:20:08.520 extent because that just wants in her life. You know, 2:20:09.320 --> 2:20:11.640 she don't know nothing about the upbringing of what we 2:20:11.760 --> 2:20:14.720 came from though, so she was very oblivious to like 2:20:14.879 --> 2:20:17.240 she never knew he hustled, Like you know that scene 2:20:17.240 --> 2:20:22.520 in the movie where she was was baking soda and 2:20:22.600 --> 2:20:29.080 that was that's like, that's that really, she not knowing 2:20:29.160 --> 2:20:31.480 that was work. He came in and piste off, like, 2:20:31.680 --> 2:20:35.120 my mom just flushed down that's my week. You know, 2:20:35.959 --> 2:20:38.240 she just flushed down my work. And she didn't even 2:20:38.280 --> 2:20:41.200 know that. Like that's just how oblivious she was to 2:20:41.440 --> 2:20:43.920 that lifestyle of it. To her, that was just like 2:20:44.080 --> 2:20:46.640 her Chris, because he did all the ship she wanted 2:20:46.640 --> 2:20:48.720 her to do. He was smart, even schooling and all that, 2:20:48.959 --> 2:20:51.440 but you know, he did all a lot of extra ship. 2:20:51.560 --> 2:20:54.560 And to this day she she don't know about that ship, 2:20:54.760 --> 2:20:59.640 but she does now, right, But like I saw it, 2:20:59.760 --> 2:21:03.640 so was like so crazy. That was just a great feliniacy. 2:21:04.360 --> 2:21:06.840 So so um and this is probably the last question. 2:21:06.920 --> 2:21:08.720 I don't want to get too emotional with you. What 2:21:08.840 --> 2:21:11.800 you guys, and you get you guys gave me wait, wait, 2:21:13.000 --> 2:21:21.000 exactly what I wanted. But um, one thing that people 2:21:21.040 --> 2:21:23.960 ask me all the time is, you know, I was 2:21:24.080 --> 2:21:28.440 very close to Punt. Pun was my guy. God. People 2:21:28.520 --> 2:21:31.640 always asked me, they said, yo, do you realize how 2:21:31.760 --> 2:21:37.520 special Punt was from Pun was here? And almost eight 2:21:37.640 --> 2:21:41.440 times out of ten I said yeah, mm hmm, because 2:21:41.560 --> 2:21:44.440 I actually did did did I think he was a 2:21:44.520 --> 2:21:52.480 special as the people. Uh no, I'm sorry. But when 2:21:52.520 --> 2:21:56.560 he was alive, I knew who he was. Proba was 2:21:56.600 --> 2:21:59.840 special to me just as a listener and a creative person. 2:22:00.040 --> 2:22:03.120 So and you had a personal relationship. So I know that. 2:22:04.520 --> 2:22:07.120 But back to your question about was that related to 2:22:07.200 --> 2:22:10.440 beg But I know he was special. I knew he 2:22:10.560 --> 2:22:14.880 was special just because of the his spirit and how 2:22:15.000 --> 2:22:17.720 we connected. It wasn't so yeah, Okay, you know I 2:22:17.760 --> 2:22:30.720 ain't gonna not the first time we actually fucked. Okay, no, no, 2:22:31.080 --> 2:22:39.320 you want no, no, no, But I'm saying just that word. 2:22:39.640 --> 2:22:43.880 The first time we actually, you know, conflated things. I 2:22:43.959 --> 2:22:46.480 guess I didn't consate because that's like more of a 2:22:46.760 --> 2:22:52.920 serious marriage. But over it was this bad boy party 2:22:53.000 --> 2:22:54.920 on Father's Day. That's how I always come back when 2:22:54.959 --> 2:22:56.680 people say we got married the seven days, No, the 2:22:56.720 --> 2:22:59.320 funk we did. We met like at this photo shoot, 2:22:59.320 --> 2:23:02.720 which was like after Mother's Day, which was like May. 2:23:04.360 --> 2:23:07.520 It might have been even after China's first birthday, which 2:23:07.600 --> 2:23:09.920 was April. That's how I know. And then he saw 2:23:10.040 --> 2:23:12.200 my pictures at the photo shoot and he said, you're 2:23:12.200 --> 2:23:14.119 coming to the post party, and he had a Father's 2:23:14.160 --> 2:23:17.680 Day party, which is in June. Right, So that's how 2:23:17.760 --> 2:23:26.920 I know it was cold coming up to say. I'm saying, 2:23:26.920 --> 2:23:29.680 I'm sure you would. That's how I count on my ship. 2:23:30.120 --> 2:23:33.600 Like China isnt April Father's Day, he isn't made June. 2:23:34.000 --> 2:23:36.320 So he was looking at my pictures. But nonetheless, what 2:23:36.440 --> 2:23:38.320 the fund was that? Oh we had that party, he said, 2:23:41.360 --> 2:23:45.240 And after Big performed, I was in the nord. Everybody's like, Big, 2:23:45.320 --> 2:23:47.400 why you going? He was like, well he and he 2:23:47.480 --> 2:23:49.200 grabbed my hand and he went on with me that 2:23:49.320 --> 2:23:52.040 night and I sucked the ship out of him and 2:23:52.280 --> 2:24:06.000 we got Larry. But four months lefter you got that, right, 2:24:06.160 --> 2:24:17.440 that's it. Four week you see, I's gonna tell that 2:24:18.760 --> 2:24:25.280 the time. You can't sit here too. This is a 2:24:25.400 --> 2:24:32.960 very dangerous team place anything. Yeah, I swear the guard 2:24:33.760 --> 2:24:39.800 at legend. I feel like I'll be like, how fine? 2:24:39.800 --> 2:24:43.840 I talking to the closest in my life. So like 2:24:44.040 --> 2:24:48.800 I'm getting here, like it's so they start say it's 2:24:48.840 --> 2:24:51.040 hibout Derby, we gonna wake up to Bargo to morning 2:24:51.080 --> 2:24:59.840 when this sh come out. This is just get time. 2:25:00.680 --> 2:25:02.920 Let me add something to it. Do He sucked the 2:25:02.920 --> 2:25:15.600 shot out of me too, because you know I'm about 2:25:15.640 --> 2:25:23.280 to gather. Let me that was good. If Big would 2:25:23.320 --> 2:25:27.000 be here right now with position, will you be a 2:25:27.080 --> 2:25:30.840 hip hop if you're in a ship, Because Big was 2:25:30.879 --> 2:25:33.800 cool like that, like you know, you know, B I 2:25:33.920 --> 2:25:37.000 believe you know y'all. You know he didn't have no 2:25:37.160 --> 2:25:39.160 preference man money. He didn't give a funk out you sound. 2:25:39.240 --> 2:25:40.800 He was dope. He was dope. It's not like you 2:25:41.120 --> 2:25:45.360 street niggas, real niggas. You're here though, even with you, 2:25:46.240 --> 2:25:49.920 I seeing he he was go bigger do that, you know, 2:25:50.200 --> 2:25:53.080 like he was with a chance to wrapp in Chicago, 2:25:53.160 --> 2:25:54.960 right he would, Yeah, he was just he was. He 2:25:55.040 --> 2:26:00.480 was a hip hop that with him, Yeah, fun with him. 2:26:00.480 --> 2:26:02.400 He's like, all right, my nigga was something. It might 2:26:02.480 --> 2:26:05.240 not be his way for music, but B and I 2:26:05.560 --> 2:26:07.680 funk with him, come on with the smoke like he 2:26:07.879 --> 2:26:10.080 was that. That's why we like that. That's why I'm 2:26:10.160 --> 2:26:11.360 like that, you know. I mean, I like that. I 2:26:11.600 --> 2:26:13.920 embraced everybody Monday. You know, if I vibe to it, 2:26:14.600 --> 2:26:16.280 to it the music, I might not like. I might 2:26:16.480 --> 2:26:18.400 like you though I remember that it was cool. It 2:26:18.560 --> 2:26:21.080 was you don't be tripping these cool he smooth you know, 2:26:21.240 --> 2:26:23.520 it's because that's that's how we came up, you know 2:26:23.560 --> 2:26:25.640 what I mean. It's just that that's the that's the vibe, 2:26:25.680 --> 2:26:27.080 you know. I mean, we used to see niggas and 2:26:27.800 --> 2:26:29.480 you know we just rapp us. But I was fans 2:26:29.520 --> 2:26:31.120 of niggas too, you know what I mean. We see 2:26:31.200 --> 2:26:33.560 niggas like him, and then it's something I'm like, that's no. 2:26:33.840 --> 2:26:36.440 You can see all you know this because these niggs 2:26:36.480 --> 2:26:38.240 that look like you, they come from where I come from. 2:26:38.280 --> 2:26:39.960 I can recognize the kicks from when I see him 2:26:39.959 --> 2:26:41.680 like a nigga from where we from, you know what 2:26:41.680 --> 2:26:44.360 I mean. And that's how we that's how we vibe. 2:26:44.520 --> 2:26:46.240 And look at this ship, this ship the last twenty 2:26:46.360 --> 2:26:48.800 years strong, you know what I mean, like the new generation. 2:26:48.920 --> 2:26:51.280 You're questioning them from three years on. Damn, Like you 2:26:51.320 --> 2:26:54.840 know what I'm saying. I'll tell you the um um 2:26:56.640 --> 2:27:04.960 just different, crazy ship. UM. For me was to see 2:27:05.040 --> 2:27:10.280 the test of time and to see that years later, 2:27:11.959 --> 2:27:17.080 like you know, to see how important Big is and 2:27:17.200 --> 2:27:20.480 to see like these young kids who who you know, 2:27:21.560 --> 2:27:25.640 Big Big been going almost twenty years and and they 2:27:25.760 --> 2:27:29.119 don't you know, but I mean, you know, these these 2:27:29.240 --> 2:27:31.600 young kids they don't salute them and to see the 2:27:31.720 --> 2:27:37.120 world just jump on them. Like I love when like 2:27:37.240 --> 2:27:43.280 a artists say, oh, well big is overrating and it's like, yeah, 2:27:43.320 --> 2:27:48.520 a little nigga, you were not there. You're overrated. Now 2:27:48.959 --> 2:27:58.920 you're not even so that that ship bothers your lifeline. 2:27:59.560 --> 2:28:02.360 I guess different, nigga. We you know, we could think 2:28:02.440 --> 2:28:05.640 we want to think about this, but we you know, 2:28:05.800 --> 2:28:08.160 it's different. Like we just watched the d the Baker 2:28:08.200 --> 2:28:10.000 the other day. That's what I was about to say, 2:28:11.560 --> 2:28:14.600 my dude, Like I watched the whole crowd like just 2:28:14.760 --> 2:28:17.880 react to her records like so different, Like certain records 2:28:17.920 --> 2:28:19.200 came on and you see people get out of these 2:28:19.240 --> 2:28:22.480 seats and I'm just like, damn old is she Like 2:28:22.879 --> 2:28:27.720 she kept saying like flooded, but I'm like, and you 2:28:27.800 --> 2:28:30.240 just don't. She was just like putting the mic out 2:28:30.320 --> 2:28:36.480 just like the same, like that's the whole song. And 2:28:36.600 --> 2:28:39.720 she started over saying how long this new generation that 2:28:40.320 --> 2:28:45.320 like like old people gonna be in there like a 2:28:45.400 --> 2:29:03.959 long time ago? Why you you you know what I'm 2:29:03.959 --> 2:29:11.400 trumping you got explaining, Yeah, that's that's rough. Let me 2:29:11.520 --> 2:29:14.560 just say something. You know, it's rough. It's rough. Come 2:29:14.600 --> 2:29:19.920 on of my life. Let me just tell you something. 2:29:19.959 --> 2:29:25.080 Six years of my life, six years straight, from October 2:29:25.760 --> 2:29:31.520 to March. I had to be in Europe. Right, most 2:29:31.560 --> 2:29:38.080 people say, you're you fucking idiot. Europe is fantastic, right, 2:29:39.280 --> 2:29:44.040 will get that double money. But when you're forced to 2:29:44.280 --> 2:29:47.640 be there, you don't want to be there. So you 2:29:47.720 --> 2:29:51.560 gotta be with with in France for Pepper the pew, 2:29:53.400 --> 2:29:59.200 it's very rough. Listening is smoking, cracking the elevator. He's saying, 2:30:00.120 --> 2:30:12.039 crack ship you go, My god, damnit? He who listen 2:30:12.120 --> 2:30:16.640 when you don't want to be somewhere, torture you? You 2:30:16.800 --> 2:30:21.480 you you. Let's let's name a place in your your life. Right, 2:30:21.680 --> 2:30:27.080 let's say the Hampton's fantastic place. You know a white 2:30:27.160 --> 2:30:31.480 guy there named Fred. Right, let's right, Fred is fantastic. Right. 2:30:32.040 --> 2:30:34.960 Fred is a great guy. Fred is a great guy. 2:30:35.080 --> 2:30:40.880 He likes by it works before the fourth He's a 2:30:40.920 --> 2:30:45.320 good Fred is the guy. But now now you don't 2:30:45.400 --> 2:30:48.640 want to be with Fred. You want to be home, 2:30:49.879 --> 2:30:52.880 You really want to be home. But now Fred is 2:30:53.000 --> 2:30:57.280 the most, He's the most. Would you like this? I 2:30:57.400 --> 2:31:02.280 got this and you love Fred? But Fred, I want 2:31:02.280 --> 2:31:06.040 to go home Fred is the most annoying nig in 2:31:06.120 --> 2:31:09.920 the world because you have to be there to pay 2:31:10.000 --> 2:31:14.080 your bills. So a lot of people don't understand that's torture. 2:31:14.720 --> 2:31:17.520 Like my wife. My wife taught me Paris and I 2:31:17.600 --> 2:31:19.600 used to go to Paris and like, what the funk 2:31:19.680 --> 2:31:23.160 am I here for? I don't want to be by 2:31:23.400 --> 2:31:28.880 Eiffel Tower? What is the Eiffel Tower? That ship is 2:31:28.920 --> 2:31:34.280 all I don't even know who doesn't make sense to 2:31:34.400 --> 2:31:37.280 a nigga. I just want bread. But then my wife 2:31:37.400 --> 2:31:41.120 she comes out there, She's like, look Theiffel Tower. I'm like, 2:31:42.640 --> 2:31:48.240 yeahn be honest. She taught me culture. But other than that, 2:31:48.840 --> 2:31:52.360 he wasn't that. That ship was like corny to us. 2:31:52.520 --> 2:31:54.800 Like I'm like, I'm going to the beach, and before 2:31:54.800 --> 2:31:57.280 you you're going going to the beach, funk out didn't 2:31:58.560 --> 2:32:01.200 Let's be honest. The block Let's rip club was trashed 2:32:01.280 --> 2:32:03.000 to us. In New York. We didn't do if you 2:32:03.080 --> 2:32:06.880 went to the strip club, you strip clubs, And we 2:32:06.920 --> 2:32:08.880 didn't have having the New York in the day. No, no, 2:32:09.000 --> 2:32:11.680 we didn't have nothing. We didn't have that. Imagine Big 2:32:11.959 --> 2:32:14.240 j and Pup has strip clubs back in the day 2:32:15.320 --> 2:32:21.840 yet about that. You magine the nineties were strip clubs. 2:32:21.879 --> 2:32:23.640 It wasn't. You had to go to Miami like you 2:32:23.720 --> 2:32:31.640 had stub Culturemaic City like those ships. Right now, show girls, 2:32:32.320 --> 2:32:34.800 we just patly get a strip clu. Let me say something. 2:32:34.840 --> 2:32:36.880 He took me to your strip club. It's called show girls. 2:32:37.040 --> 2:32:40.120 I've never seen so much bullet holes, like so many 2:32:40.560 --> 2:32:45.640 bullet holes. Bullet holes they didn't Yeah, they got the 2:32:45.760 --> 2:32:49.880 bitches got shot and Sunny d walked in there. He 2:32:50.000 --> 2:32:57.680 spent eighty dollars and he was the man. This sunny 2:32:57.720 --> 2:33:01.959 think that's the sunny thing. He but four models eight hours. 2:33:02.160 --> 2:33:07.400 I said, what the funk? Where are we at? Hangout? 2:33:07.440 --> 2:33:17.840 Sputt like that and be cool, man yourself food two 2:33:17.959 --> 2:33:21.800 bullet in it, I can have it. It's cool ticket 2:33:22.480 --> 2:33:25.000 you know, it's write me, adopt me. It's called n 2:33:25.080 --> 2:33:29.200 let it or not there you just got. It's like 2:33:35.080 --> 2:33:38.080 the kindle hood. Do you think you're not gonna get shot? 2:33:38.160 --> 2:33:40.880 But listen, you get stabbed and then the shot, but 2:33:41.080 --> 2:33:43.840 it coming later. I don't think a stab you when 2:33:43.879 --> 2:33:46.960 it's then there's as a Cuban nigger that comes last, 2:33:47.440 --> 2:33:49.760 like yeah, I got I got thrown in isn't American? 2:33:49.959 --> 2:33:55.040 Or who me? You know, I'm Porter Macann. I'm very offensive. 2:33:58.680 --> 2:34:09.280 So sorry, you're gonna like, yeah, that nigga is that 2:34:09.440 --> 2:34:19.680 nigga is green, that niggas is funny. That never makes 2:34:19.680 --> 2:34:27.240 sen Oh he's my guy. Normal, I got you. I'll point, 2:34:27.280 --> 2:34:29.879 I'll pull your ship. Yeah really no, let's still listen. 2:34:29.959 --> 2:34:33.720 Man's let's look at the schedule. This is a beautiful thing. 2:34:35.080 --> 2:34:37.960 It's no schedule. That's that's exactly is thattly what you 2:34:38.040 --> 2:34:42.680 gotta do. See, you gotta be. You gotta scene because 2:34:42.720 --> 2:34:48.360 you cripple you crimple big bang that you said since 2:34:48.400 --> 2:34:51.280 little seeds crippled me since that day you you don't 2:34:51.280 --> 2:34:53.160 really have a lot of props in hip hop. You 2:34:53.240 --> 2:35:01.640 just gotta he was gonna stay you crippled, big paper. 2:35:02.000 --> 2:35:05.840 How did this happen? He was not supposed to be 2:35:05.920 --> 2:35:10.160 the driving. They didn't drive. But he was fourteen years old, 2:35:12.520 --> 2:35:20.560 no six, I was six. Probably they never drove. That's 2:35:20.600 --> 2:35:23.480 why he didn't drive. I didn't do that really wrong though. 2:35:23.560 --> 2:35:26.320 It was just a drive every now and then I 2:35:26.480 --> 2:35:32.000 drive the publix. I should say sandwiches are amazing. The 2:35:32.200 --> 2:35:37.400 sub no I lived in Atlanta for like six years 2:35:38.680 --> 2:35:43.520 year ship. So I got to waters in Miami. Pop. 2:35:43.560 --> 2:35:46.480 I know about it from Atlanta. It's fantastic, it's amazing, 2:35:47.160 --> 2:35:54.560 it's amazing, wings cool, but I like convenge yourself. It 2:35:54.680 --> 2:36:02.160 sounds like a French restaurant. I don't like islands all 2:36:02.200 --> 2:36:11.880 the things, but this very hispanic of you to have 2:36:15.800 --> 2:36:18.880 more black than Italian. Are you black Anton, That's what 2:36:19.040 --> 2:36:30.640 I heard. I never mean we're not. We're not going 2:36:30.720 --> 2:36:34.560 to stay until the bottoms ball. That's why the funk 2:36:34.600 --> 2:36:37.720 we're here. What do you mean I'm sucking on? Take 2:36:37.760 --> 2:36:42.800 care my birthday? That's something, that's that's something. Um, Happy birthday, 2:36:43.360 --> 2:36:51.040 Happy birthday. Let's let's show that we can read your 2:36:51.400 --> 2:36:58.080 nationalities here and start off what uh the regular ship, 2:36:58.320 --> 2:37:12.760 Happy birthday to happy days, the one Happy birthday, Happy birdday, 2:37:12.920 --> 2:37:15.760 you too, you gay us for the last one day. 2:37:15.840 --> 2:37:21.519 Now let's let's take it to dn cob yon your face, 2:37:23.120 --> 2:37:29.800 then go be lyon your f then go be by, 2:37:31.240 --> 2:37:40.760 go be released like happy than black too. Goddamnit, Happy 2:37:41.000 --> 2:37:59.400 birdcade too, happy day? Happy to say do suding So 2:37:59.560 --> 2:38:14.480 it was a don't do the creole versions born. He 2:38:14.600 --> 2:38:18.800 seems it when he goes to public, that's great, Okay, 2:38:19.120 --> 2:38:26.320 it's not sex. If you're a man is sexting, you 2:38:26.400 --> 2:38:28.360 know what I'm saying. If he cute to you and 2:38:28.480 --> 2:38:30.840 you love him and he's singing, that'ship to you as 2:38:30.920 --> 2:38:38.400 a woman like yoh my nigga yo, depressive mother. I'm 2:38:38.480 --> 2:38:43.760 just saying that way about. I'm all in. It's like, 2:38:48.320 --> 2:38:50.720 but that was real nice of you, Like, actually, thank 2:38:50.760 --> 2:38:56.360 you because we don't know what language that was itch 2:38:56.400 --> 2:39:00.800 creo French creo. Yeah, okay, that's what you can't tell 2:39:00.800 --> 2:39:08.400 a fair one, you know, that's a scrench nothing. Nothing 2:39:10.959 --> 2:39:15.280 like right now all the time. You know, you have 2:39:15.360 --> 2:39:18.240 to learn the spot about just not the one time 2:39:18.280 --> 2:39:19.680 you will have me on me. I would break it 2:39:19.800 --> 2:39:25.960 down for you all about how I'm an asking person. 2:39:27.080 --> 2:39:32.360 This first is my favorite. Oh my god, yes, ship 2:39:32.440 --> 2:39:42.840 with the Mexican rest. I'm a little science jacks. So 2:39:45.200 --> 2:39:52.400 I feel like I feel like we covered everything you're doing. Friends. Now, 2:39:53.520 --> 2:39:56.080 I want to ask you one more time. Was there 2:39:56.080 --> 2:39:59.600 anything you could do over? What would you do if 2:39:59.640 --> 2:40:02.600 you could? If I could, I don't know, I mean 2:40:02.840 --> 2:40:11.320 maybe I would shoot shut na um. Well, if I 2:40:11.600 --> 2:40:16.920 could do something over again? What would I do Damn, 2:40:18.000 --> 2:40:20.160 I don't know. That's a hard question to put into 2:40:20.200 --> 2:40:23.360 one answer. You know, it's like I would do this, 2:40:23.560 --> 2:40:26.320 and then I would do that. You know, I can't 2:40:26.320 --> 2:40:29.320 single without to one thing. If it's one thing I 2:40:29.360 --> 2:40:32.000 would do different, it would be fair to say that 2:40:32.200 --> 2:40:38.480 I would um have been more aware in the beginning 2:40:38.640 --> 2:40:42.240 of my career instead of thinking about my like thinking 2:40:42.320 --> 2:40:45.440 off of my emotional coolness and you know, just me. 2:40:45.800 --> 2:40:47.840 But I don't regret it, though, So I can't even 2:40:47.879 --> 2:40:51.360 say that. I can't say that because I don't regret like, 2:40:52.120 --> 2:40:54.000 oh shoot, I gotta shipped on for this, but I 2:40:54.120 --> 2:40:57.200 was cool with that, and you know, I'm not mad 2:40:57.280 --> 2:41:01.959 at the the step that is that my personality has 2:41:02.120 --> 2:41:06.000 fucker numbers of sales and you know what I'm saying, Like, 2:41:06.080 --> 2:41:07.879 I'm not mad. So I can't say that I would 2:41:07.920 --> 2:41:11.400 do anything over because if I could, it's really a 2:41:11.800 --> 2:41:18.040 big question. You fucking can't How about that ship? Your 2:41:18.080 --> 2:41:22.000 motherfucking can you chance to do it all over? Everything? 2:41:22.520 --> 2:41:24.600 I mean, but if I had a chance to do 2:41:24.720 --> 2:41:27.119 it all over, the ship would have presented itself differently 2:41:27.200 --> 2:41:30.400 anyway you feel me. It's like, bitch, you could do 2:41:30.520 --> 2:41:32.360 this again. So what would you do if you could? 2:41:32.440 --> 2:41:37.560 I couldn't. That ain't how life presents itself. And you know, 2:41:37.720 --> 2:41:42.240 I know I've always you know, even though in hindsight 2:41:42.360 --> 2:41:44.600 things was like, damn, that didn't work out right because 2:41:44.959 --> 2:41:47.560 you didn't look at this. But I've always came from 2:41:47.640 --> 2:41:51.280 the right place. And when I do believe, when you're 2:41:51.320 --> 2:41:53.640 coming from the right place, you can't go wrong, whether 2:41:53.720 --> 2:41:56.120 someone takes it the right way, whether it ends up 2:41:56.160 --> 2:41:58.119 the right way. But in my spirit, in my heart, 2:41:58.480 --> 2:42:00.920 and in my relationship with God, I can't feel wrong 2:42:01.000 --> 2:42:03.760 about ship that I know. I wasn't coming from a 2:42:03.800 --> 2:42:06.960 bad place. You feel me, And I'm cool with that. 2:42:07.320 --> 2:42:08.880 I called the bed at eight o'clock and I feel 2:42:08.920 --> 2:42:14.680 great about that ship. Tell him one time this thing 2:42:14.879 --> 2:42:17.400 was at my house for Thanksgiving. My phone went off 2:42:17.480 --> 2:42:21.480 at seven five, almost time to go to bed. Come 2:42:21.560 --> 2:42:26.480 to your phone, like Sherry, time to go to sleep. 2:42:26.480 --> 2:42:32.040 I was like, seven, we call it, Brandy, this is 2:42:32.080 --> 2:42:35.360 a right there. She's like, what time is way back 2:42:35.879 --> 2:42:43.000 sho tripping man me. I'm like, al wants some other 2:42:43.080 --> 2:42:48.600 ship right now, But I really go to bed eight thirty, 2:42:49.160 --> 2:42:51.240 wake up at four o'clock, go work, out, get my 2:42:51.320 --> 2:42:53.280 son up at six, you know what I mean? My 2:42:53.320 --> 2:43:04.600 ship is real scheduled. That's why. That's why I'm fun 2:43:04.720 --> 2:43:07.120 with it like that, like you know, it's a that's 2:43:07.200 --> 2:43:10.840 all ship. Like we get up and she's like, y'all, 2:43:10.840 --> 2:43:13.240 I'm gonna be my birthday here, get a flight, nig. 2:43:13.840 --> 2:43:16.039 It was like she was like a five real quick, 2:43:16.080 --> 2:43:19.240 who you going out there with? Dolo? I'm like, just 2:43:21.040 --> 2:43:27.320 see what I can do, okay, And that's like I'm often, 2:43:27.400 --> 2:43:31.840 you know, granny being the bed. It's a birthday, so 2:43:31.920 --> 2:43:34.480 she wanted to hang. I'm like, you out for two weeks. 2:43:35.320 --> 2:43:37.480 I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna use the bathroom and 2:43:37.520 --> 2:43:41.120 I'm gonna take that like a picture. I wanna take 2:43:41.160 --> 2:43:43.280 a shot. I wanta take a shot. I'm gonna take 2:43:43.280 --> 2:43:52.800 a shot. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I'm just 2:43:52.959 --> 2:44:09.240 going I'm just going. Let me tell y'all something. This 2:44:09.320 --> 2:44:13.320 is the first time we had a female who came 2:44:13.600 --> 2:44:20.600 drank and smoke because any accents. Amber amble amber a 2:44:20.800 --> 2:44:27.160 sister Um came only drink right, Trina came only drink 2:44:28.360 --> 2:44:41.800 amber Um, Angelie came only drink Check the footage. I 2:44:41.840 --> 2:44:59.720 didn't remember that super super c Keep drinking, keep drinking, drink, 2:45:00.000 --> 2:45:12.200 and because you gotta drink, smoke drinking, she drinks smoke. 2:45:12.520 --> 2:45:17.280 Wait wait, where is my Instagram? No don't go, No, no, 2:45:17.520 --> 2:45:23.600 don't go, don't please please please come on. So we're 2:45:23.600 --> 2:45:30.680 supposed to thank you so much. We're gonna, no little sees. 2:45:31.640 --> 2:45:34.600 This is third time Jenny Kiss been on here, nineteen 2:45:34.640 --> 2:45:45.840 hundred times. I'm the best. And let me tell you something. 2:45:46.520 --> 2:45:48.880 Anytime you want to promote anything, anytime you want to 2:45:48.879 --> 2:45:51.800 talk about anything, you time you'll get anything off your chance, 2:45:51.840 --> 2:46:00.320 this is you. Listen. No, that's your whole So I 2:46:00.480 --> 2:46:03.720 just got something to say. It's your home. You can 2:46:03.879 --> 2:46:06.680 always come here because it's the first time artist is 2:46:06.760 --> 2:46:11.200 running artists media, Thank you, Thank you all for having me. No, 2:46:11.520 --> 2:46:21.680 we're gonna it's an honor. Take a bit.