1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: And his drink chats, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Miami hippoper, mioneer up his dj e FN together they 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: drinking up with some of the biggest players in the 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: most professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: drunk drinks. Motherfuckings New year' z. That's time for drink chance, 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: trink up, mother mother. What a good be hoping. He 8 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: is what it should be. This is your boy and 9 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: what his dj EF his drink chas motherfucking happy hour, 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: make some And we got one of the queens of 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the culture in the building right now. When I say queen, 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about really Queen Royalty, married to the King, 13 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: came in this game on her own, did what she 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: had to do, still surviving, still just dropped the album 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: The King and I And if the case you didn't 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, we told my motherfucking faith, 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: let me fast fast. So listen, we had the season 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: on here, seasons running around here, and he said, like 19 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: he's traumatized. He can't even smoke weed anymore, because he 20 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: said big they to smoke so much weed with him? 21 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Are you anywhere there that I'm not traumatized, but I 22 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: might be near with the higher tolerance like big, but 23 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm not quite as bad because back then, like he, 24 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: it would be a room full of us and like 25 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: hear anybody like you know, he had the hat as 26 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: he wants to, you know, a big blunt, put hash 27 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: in it. And then if you ain't smoking the hash blunt, 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get out. If you fall asleep, you gotta 29 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: get out, like you know, you gotta get high, like 30 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: you ain't getting hot, you gotta get I'm not that bad, right, 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: So now your originally you're from Jersey? Correct? From the bricks? 32 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I got a friend big up say, on Clinton Avenue. 33 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: It's very rough for that. I went to school actually 34 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: with my high school, but I went to school on 35 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Clinton and Clinton Avenue and Clinton Place. So how does 36 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: your girl from Jersey link up a bad boy? How? 37 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: How did how did this this stuff? Was? This always 38 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: been your dream was to be a singer or well 39 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: a singer. Yes, I say, I've been singing since I 40 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: was like two years old, you know, since I could 41 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: basically talk. But my initial my initial audience was in 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: church and The first song I actually sang when it's 43 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: like when I was like three, was a song from 44 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: the flint Stones. I guess you know the Flintstones. I 45 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: remember in the Jackson's was like my favorite. No, it 46 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: was a song, Okay, you remember the episode when Bam 47 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Bam and Pebbles performed that something that was like the 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl, you remember, so we were on the same 49 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: mates and then they sang Atlanta Sunshine. That that was 50 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: my first song I sang in church. So I mean, 51 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: over the years, I knew I had a gift with singing, 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and then later on I just started as a hobby 53 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: writing music. But I never knew I was gonna be 54 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a re courting artists. I knew I wanted to make 55 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: money with my voice somehow, but the whole being a 56 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: signed artist to a label and not even in nothing 57 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to do with church. You know, I sang another places, school, 58 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I sang every way I could church. A lot of 59 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: people choirs over the church, and then you know why 60 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: to learn that church is kind of like ill because 61 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it's either like you're either really good or you're like 62 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: really bad, and like people like people like you can't 63 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: you can't really say it you can't really say jerom 64 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: if you need to stop jeroe yourself saying with jero, 65 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: you can't really do that in church, you know what 66 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But so it's either you're really good really 67 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: So how did how did you what made you want 68 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: to say this is gonna be a professional thing? Because 69 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: all of us know that, all of us successful artists 70 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: know that when we start out as a as a 71 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: striving artist, it's not a lot of money. So it's 72 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's a lot of what is 73 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: it de motivation not not motivation at first when you 74 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: first started. So how did you transition to say like, 75 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with this, I'm gonna make this work. 76 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: You know what, It's crazy because I mean church wasn't 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: my only thing. Like I sang. I was the singer 78 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: with my jazz man in school, I did wedding students. 79 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: When I meant want to page it or two, I 80 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to sing. And just so happens. You know, 81 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: a few people I knew got uh in the industry, 82 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: but I still was just singing everywhere. That was. It 83 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: was just about singing. Later on, when I recorded and 84 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: taught myself how to arrange records and produce myself, not 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: even knowing that would have anything to do with my 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: career later won't pretty much. I mean, by the time 87 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I met Puck, I'm a fast forward. Red Man. One 88 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: of my best friends is rosing Over. Red Man's sister. 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Red was my boyfriend when I was in the ninth grade. 90 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: So like when I heard y'all in the business always 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: some of my sessions and checked on me and stuff 92 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: like that. But right before red Kind, he was a 93 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: drummer in church when we met, you know, he was 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: still he was DJ and sself like prior to Eric, 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of going to meet meeting him in 96 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: sensations and kind of discovering him in that sense. But 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I was just always around it. My daughter's father actually, 98 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: he was a producer and he became a producer with 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Christopher Wims, so I at she graduated from high school 100 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: william New York City. So I was around it. And 101 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: I actually left my full scholarship at Fordham University, my 102 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: academics because my daughter's father told me to move to 103 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: California with him. And yeah, had nothing to do with 104 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: me being an artist. But I got pregnant and you 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: know whatever, it just sounded way more fun than living 106 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: in Nork and get to the track. Nonetheless, by that time, 107 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: I was already kind of like super dope at just 108 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: a hobby recording myself. I had already been seeing everywhere. 109 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: But I met this dude yourself as well. I was 110 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: in the gospel group, and we made a couple of 111 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: a B side right because you know, but this is 112 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: when I'm like thirteen fourteen. But the dude that recorded 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: us was the lady's nephew. Let me just tell you 114 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: how God works. I ended up right off a Fordham row, 115 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: right off a grand concourse. I didn't know I was 116 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: gonna end up going for them university on the full scholarship. 117 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Then when I was third team, four team, just so happens, 118 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I get this full scholarship after my classes, which I was, 119 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go because I got the scholarship. 120 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I would always go to the dude's house. I used 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: to get woomans for sneaking out the window to go 122 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: to this studio in the Bronx before I was of 123 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: age to really be doing it. So I really knew 124 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: how to record myself. Like I said, produced myself stacked 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: my vocals because he taught me how to use that 126 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: little task camp thing when you could go straight to 127 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: the cassette to work with. So by the time I 128 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: met Puff, I mean it was really I was just 129 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: the ride as my daughter's father. I was his ride 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: to the studio and waiting in the lounge and Puff 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: was working on his first album and he needed somebody 132 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: to see this part. And it was like she could say, 133 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, and I went in there murdered it like 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I stacked. It was like Mr Puffy, excuse me? Can 135 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I changed around and I've made I murked it. I 136 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: know I did. As soon as I came out the booth, 137 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: he was like, you want to sign up my new label? 138 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: And I wasn't there for that at all. I know, 139 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: I had on the church girl outfit or something like. 140 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, yeah, that wasn't like my thing. It's 141 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: like if it happens that way, okay. So I had 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: worked with I'll be sure prior to that. But he know, 143 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: he bade me just to do his demos. But again, 144 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I was just there when my daughter's father he heard 145 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: me singing on the tape and like, oh ship, that's you, 146 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: like come up my ship up. So it was just 147 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I was in that place at that time. But wherever 148 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: it was that I was gonna sing and make some money, 149 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of where I want to be, whether it 150 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: was in a professional recording sense or at a wedding 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: or a retirement party. You know what I'm saying. All Right, Okay? 152 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: In the movie right Big Big walks out of the room, 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: and I believe Puff says, I'm gonna meet my meet 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: my artist. So you was already signed to a bad 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Boy prior to you even know him. Big was on 156 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: that label. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Ben didn't know me either. 157 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I think when we finally met at that it was 158 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: like this photo shoot because Monty Big had signed to 159 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: bad Boy when Puff was still at Uptown. UM Total 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: was signed before me as well, but and Craig mac. 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: But when I remember um being, I mean Puff had 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: this photo shoot. I had already worked on Usher's first album, 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Marries My Life album. So while I was negotiating, when 164 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I was doing backgrounds and arrangements, like I was writing 165 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: stuff and laying the demo, and most of the time 166 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: he would keep my backgrounds that I laid down. That 167 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: was like on Usher's first album and then marries My 168 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: Life albums, so that's still publishing. You get absolutely publishing 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: and that after AFM honey with them. But yeah, during 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: this time, I was negotiating my deal with Bad Boy Records. 171 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: So by the time, you know, Pop had his this 172 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: first photo shoot with his new artist. It ended up 173 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: just being me, Big and Craig Mac at the photo shoot. 174 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I don't think total made it right. 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: It was just us three and that's where me and 176 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: b first met. And he said he has seen me 177 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: coming in and out the near fact, because back then, 178 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, Puff would have like the whole every home, 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, somebody working on something different that he's you know, facilitating. 180 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Big said he thought I was like a session singer, 181 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, because he saw me going in and out 182 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: of session. We didn't know I was an artist on 183 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: the labeling, like somebody that kind of just got paid 184 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: to do backgrounds, which I kind of was getting paid 185 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: to do that. But I wasn't there as a session thing. 186 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I was writing. I just was laying down and stuff that, 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that's double checks. Hey, okay, 188 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: so um so he sings from the background the vocals 189 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: you're writing, And how is this that had that approach 190 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: when they come to you and they say, we would 191 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: like you to be an artist. Was you expecting that 192 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: that was something you didn't hear me when I was 193 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: at that first session with my daughter's father for Ussher 194 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: and he needed someone to sing that part. As soon 195 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: as I walked out the booth, he asked me that 196 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: I want to sign his new label. It's just that 197 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: in the time of him working out my deal, he 198 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: was also having me right and work on USh You 199 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and Mary's album before I actually got to working on 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: my first project. Yeah, so I was, you know, working 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: on doing other things. I actually started working on my 202 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: first album, and because Puff really wasn't known at that time. 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: He was known, but he wasn't like what made you 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: put your trust in him? Well, you know what, it's 205 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: crazy because I knew nothing about the industry like that. Yeah. 206 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I had a few friends that you know, kind of 207 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: made it or got signed and became successful. But um, 208 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy because when I tell the story, I remember 209 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: when I came out and he was like, you want 210 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: to sign I'm like it really And he started writing 211 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: down numbers like we're about to work out a deal 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: right then, Like I'm like, oh, and it just so happens. 213 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I have met this attorney who ended up being my 214 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: first attorney. UM in the industry. I met him when 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: I was writing with this producer from Jersey and the media. 216 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I got a lawyer, Like you better 217 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm not about to work out the deal right now. 218 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, um, you know, it was just it was cool. 219 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: But it was like, on one hand, like, Okay, I 220 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: mean you're serious. But on the other hand, don't even 221 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: play me, like, don't think. I don't think I'm about 222 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: to do that right here right now, you know, don't 223 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: get me on. It was you know, it was all 224 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: new to him too, but I mean, it was a 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: great thing to be a part of it. When I 226 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: talked to my lawyer, he was like, well, I mean, 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: and ain't like I had not not so on to 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: take what I wasn't even out searching to get this 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: type of thing, don't I'll be sure. I kinda was, 230 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, dancing with the idea of getting getting me 231 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: signed on his little imprint. But you know, it wasn't 232 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: something that I was that's all I wanted to do. 233 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: I was like whatever, if I could make some money 234 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: and if I feel like it's gonna work out good, 235 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: you know maybe, But it was just something concrete, and 236 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: it was I heard a little buzz about him. And 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: another side board to that story is sidebar mesa justice mother. Correct, 238 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: she used to come to my church. One of her 239 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: cousins was best friends with my cousin in Jersey. So 240 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Misa used to visit my right and it's so crazy, 241 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm like twit over Leven and they knew she was 242 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: like dating this guy, pump Daddy. I think he was 243 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: still in you know, Howard or whatever. I don't know 244 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: how old I was, but we knew that she was 245 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: dating this puff daddy guy. I didn't know who he 246 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: really was, you know. Fast forward how eight years later 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think. I never knew I was gonna be 248 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: on to this man's label. So immediately she was kind 249 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: of one of my first confidence, one of the first 250 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: people that kind of really embraced me because we already 251 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: were familiar with each other just from her seeing me 252 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: singing in my church. So when I was like, oh 253 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: my god, she's like faith from New Jersey, Like I 254 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: know her from my cousin's church. You know that's my 255 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: cousin too. It so immediately like, that's my cousin. So 256 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: we were always pretty close from my entry into the 257 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: actual business, you know, me and me, so so that's 258 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: kind of how our relationship goes back. But it was 259 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: very random. I never you know, it's full circle, but 260 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: you never know the plans that God has for you. 261 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: You know, what was the first time that you got 262 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: into the industry and you was like disappointed? When because 263 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: because you know, we're all lied to what we expect 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: and what we're supposed to and then when we finally 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: realized it, it's like it's a it's a kick in 266 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: your throat. It's like, so, when when was it? When 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: was the first time you got disappointed? Like when you 268 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: realize the industry that you're really in. Than that's a 269 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: good question, but quite a hard one, you know, and 270 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: go on, you know who you're talking to the sh 271 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: out of a bit, like the first time. I mean, 272 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: tell you my first time I think about it, Okay, 273 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my first time. My first time was 274 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: realizing that this was a business. Like I always thought 275 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: that I could just trust my friend or trust forever 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: and when I realized that I had to actually like 277 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: read the contracts and go over things and the person's 278 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: word wasn't good. Like that was the first time I 279 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: kicked myself in the ass, and I was like, why 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: have my head? Okay, you know, I think, okay, you 281 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: know what, Thank you because that kind of helped me 282 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: in the direction of where I can't go because there's 283 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: many things I can say. But I think one of 284 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: my first subconscious disappointments, whether I really was able to 285 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: handle it or change it or express it or not, 286 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: probably seeing my percentage I got on stuff that I 287 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: wrote on for other people, right, And but you know, 288 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: if you're that's something I learned over the years, how 289 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: to really even understand and get clear on those splits 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying beforehand and all that stuff 291 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: that you got a factor in samples, So was like 292 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't my project to begin with, so I 293 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't the one choosing how much. But I'm like, 294 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: I wrote the whole bridge and half a hook, and 295 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, point oh, oh, like you know what I'm 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: saying percent point zero zero six, like you know, but whatever, 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, something like that probably was my very initial disappointment. 298 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: But then I realized, like, whoa, you didn't ask anybody 299 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: what was that going to be in the first place? 300 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: Or how you want drop that out? So, um, let 301 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: me ask you something like, um, when you when you 302 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: hear when you hear brothers battling, right, it can't it 303 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: can't sit right with you because you you've seen actual 304 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: battle battle like you've seen the worst of the worst. 305 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: So when you see brothers like battling on on wax, 306 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: what's the first thing you think of? Well, it depends 307 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: on if it's something that this is lyrically interesting, interesting 308 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: to me or not, because sometimes I'll be having to 309 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: catch up like, well, what are you mething about? What's 310 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: the song about? You know? Who said? What? Um? Man? 311 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: You know my kids or see Eason you know and 312 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: them might kind of how about like NAS and J 313 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: when you heard the and J. I mean, I think 314 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: it's okay when it's when it's just in the spirit 315 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: of um of competition, right. I don't really you know, 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't never judge people's creativity anyway. You ain't coming 317 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: at me. I think have you ever think that someone 318 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: that you ever think someone made a record? U? Coming 319 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: at you, do I think, well, I mean specifically, I 320 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: know my my ex husband God blessed dead, but Big did. 321 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: And the thing is, in real life, he wasn't coming 322 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: at me. We were just come on, come on it. 323 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: So this is a fun fact that this is a 324 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, that whole everything, biggie, And there's so many misconceptions, 325 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: but we laugh at certain things that only we kind 326 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: of know. Like what do you mean saying if faith 327 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: have twins, she probably had two. Yeah, I've had a 328 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: couple of things. Listen. Number one, my son c J. 329 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: When I first found out I was pregnant, it was twins. Okay, okay. 330 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: By the time I was four most pregnant, there was 331 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: like a disappearance something they called disappearing twins syndrome. So 332 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: the other, uh the other, you know, I'm something I 333 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: didn't develop. The other didn't developed right, Um, But Big 334 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: and I never had Big never question whether he you know, 335 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: I was forgot about him later on, you know, because 336 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: I was so livid and I just never even you know, 337 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: I just never addressed him to after CJ was born. 338 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: And one I didn't even had to be He just 339 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: was crying one day looking at each and I'm my 340 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: friend was so mad at him, my best friend who 341 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: was my manager now, and she cursed him out, like 342 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: I just I'm the type Like it's like because if 343 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I go here, I'm like, that's the girl that documentary. Yeah, 344 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Balyn and you said that you were big only to 345 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: stay there together for like two weeks and you looked 346 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: in the apartment. He was like like that you know 347 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: her mom Mary Flowers, Mary Flowers. That used to be 348 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: to promote you know, that was crazy because I see 349 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: the documentary of uncas. Yall sat down, y'all was eating 350 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: and I was talking about how this place you used 351 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: to go get this food, County House Country like so much. 352 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: So what was that? Was a spot in Brooklyn? Yeah, 353 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, don't close. The whole point of that 354 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: scene was that big was mad greeting so we always 355 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: like she said, I've been thinking of Tim Mills and 356 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: it was pooring y'all, Like it was a big stuck 357 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: up on wild Ship. There's a show in the house. 358 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like that girl, how does the house 359 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: a little Jersey girl, like just right into Brooklyn even 360 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: though it is the brick little Jersey, But how did 361 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: how did it? Because when I see y'all, like, I'm 362 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you, and of course I'm the 363 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: outside of looking in. But when I mean even seeing 364 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: y'all back to when I see y'all, it's like it's 365 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: like it just goes together, like I think be even 366 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: more so than how does the Jersey girl end up 367 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn? Because that's their substories to that Big used 368 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: to be when we did meet, And you know, I 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: hear my way around around Brooklyn already because I used 370 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: to go to as a Kywalkers. I like, he like 371 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: what you're doing up in this Like I'm like, I 372 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: used to go to this rehearsal at the shirts drive 373 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: my homeboy to hear you know, I'm just so I'm 374 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 1: new Jersey Drive. That's my nickname. That's what they called me. 375 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: But no, we I think it's more hot. Big and 376 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: I bind it. It was like our senses of humor, 377 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, like they used to try and they always 378 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: joke on each other. And he tried to park on 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: me and I'm quick on the come back, you know, 380 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: so I could beat Bond. I'm going to front our back, 381 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh ship than we are? We are? We are not 382 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: you go back you normal? Okay, actually I got that 383 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: way to look. There's gonna dude about just start from 384 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: random souls. I don't want to know where your your 385 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: head was at, where your space was at when you 386 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: recorded this, when you wrote it. Whatever. Honestly, I'm gonna start. Yeah, 387 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: you gonna see your brother last time. When I listened 388 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: back to that episode, I was like, dah, they said 389 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: she's got smoke listed smokes, So I'm gonna throw um. 390 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: I want to know where you was at, where your 391 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: head was at when you wrote um. I remember that 392 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: your first girl talk into the industry. That was my 393 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: first single, but I believe that may have been man 394 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: I have been no, no, no, it wasn't for Mary. 395 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: This may have been the first off checking song I 396 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: actually recorded when I finally started working on my album. 397 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: But the great thing of the story about that record, 398 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I remember when I got the hook like it was 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: a and Pile was like this too, Like sometimes you 400 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: just you ain't even want to come to the session 401 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: because you just wanted to finish it. No shame, you 402 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: don't even want to get this input. And a lot 403 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: of time it was just like I want to finished, 404 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, before you told me what else to do 405 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: before you say what you think about it. But I 406 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: knew when I finished that hook, I called him like, 407 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: come listen, and he called almost everybody that was in 408 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: any studio in the city to come and listen and 409 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: so but at the time, you know, I was I'm 410 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: super shock. I'm so used to recording by myself, so 411 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: when people staring at me and I had to kind 412 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: of finish it for everybody, was like, from Andre to 413 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Michael Bivens to this, like everybody just came through because 414 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, come listen to this joint my 415 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: new artist. So I kind of knew it was like 416 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: the ship, like everybody, this is big thinking that why 417 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: we're wanting each other's sessions. A whole lot a lot 418 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: of this stuff was recorded already by the time I 419 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: came around. Who produced that, Chuck Thompson and that that 420 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: was like an introduction to the my headspace was. I 421 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: was excited. It was like a way for me to 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: mess my church harmonies that I learned from the Clock 423 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Sisters over a hot ass beat, you know what I'm saying. 424 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: So it's a classic. It was then I used to 425 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: make stuff off off the top of my head. Now 426 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: I'll be thinking a lot harder about it. But I mean, 427 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it was just it was it just came out right. 428 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, it was meant to be that way. You 429 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: had that something too. I don't know if you remember. 430 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: I don't remember driving over the bridge in Brooklyn by 431 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: myself when I first heard flex dropping blobs and I'm 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: just crying, like thank you. A lot of a lot 433 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: of people don't understand or can't described the first time 434 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: you hear yourself on the radio. That gotta be like 435 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: like like a crivalent to like busting your first night. 436 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, I gotta be real with that, 437 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm such a sucker nowadays. I heard your radio 438 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: the other day and they played one of my old 439 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: joys and I was like, fuck that ship, and the 440 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: old me just snuffed me, Like what the fun is? 441 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: You're just saying, are you still well? I mean, that's 442 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: that's different. You're a hip hop parties, what I mean. 443 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, most of the time I'm hearing my classic stuff, 444 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: So it's not like I expect to hear my independent 445 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: records on the radio, to be quite honest, unless it 446 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: might be a Santimite station. That'd be like, I like 447 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: this joy, but you know, I hear my that I 448 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: perform all my classic stuff and that's the ship they think. 449 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: Is No, that's what girls on the crowd like. Now 450 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: she's still come on the run in between hip hop. 451 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know he got to rock 452 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: the bell. It's not an old classic. Is actually pick 453 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: you up. I got to the party, to the launch party. 454 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, listen to that station though. You know, but 455 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to think we kind of inspired that with 456 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: Drink Chance because Drink chats. We are the people that 457 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: have been in this game ten years or more, you know, 458 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: the new guys, they got their own platform you could 459 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: go to, you know, the hot do these sevens of 460 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the power one on fis. We want to praise people 461 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: who have time in this game. And you know, usually 462 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: when you have ten years or more in this game, 463 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: people want to kick you out, people want to call 464 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: you oh, and that's not what the has happened. We're 465 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: not to happen. We are legends every other genre music. 466 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: They picked them up otter ten years, were allowed us 467 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: to happen in hip hop. You know what I'm saying. 468 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: So she said something right now she said, because you're 469 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: a hip hop artist and I feel like you're a 470 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: hip hop artist. No, I didn't mean that. I was 471 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: speaking specifically to him, talking about hearing songs on the 472 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: radio whereas my genre of music. Yeah, there was a time, 473 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: like he said, there was a time when the power 474 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: stations were playing what you considered classic R and B 475 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: artists we were I wasn't considered that, and even all 476 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: the way up until two thousand five. You know, in 477 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: the last ten years, it's been it's a huge shift. 478 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: But I'm not really I'm not mad at that, you 479 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, long as I'm getting played somewhere. 480 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: But my point was to like, you're more likely to 481 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: be hearing some rap stuff on a power station as 482 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: opposed to my brand. I yeah, I kind of slide 483 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: through because I got so many records outside movements in 484 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: hip hop music. So yeah, I kind of when you 485 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: came out, it was just it just had that hip 486 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: hop field exact it was. It was on the clue 487 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: about my music. But I meant specifically him being a rapper. 488 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm meant. Um, So what is 489 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: what are you listening to now? If we're going on 490 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: the car right now. What what are you listening to? Well, 491 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: um my, I'm so funny my iPod music, I lose Apple. 492 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm keeping a new way. No guated, she still do 493 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: a little enjoyment. She's still that's not But I kind 494 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: of listened to classic stuff. I mean I do. There's 495 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: a lot of new artists that I appreciate, and and 496 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's always just some new fresh talent out there. 497 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't really, but I mean I know on heavy 498 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: rotation it's everything from like earth Wind and Fire to 499 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: your Nita Beaker to your mom's and the thought was, 500 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: just Stevie, wonder your shop up. I listened to so 501 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: much stuff. But then I also listened to a lot 502 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: of gospel music. I listened to a lot of jazz 503 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: music because I studied in saying jazz too when I 504 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: was in high school. So you know, I'm kind of 505 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: a little all across the board. My kids tend to 506 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: turn me onto um the artists that are kind of 507 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: like of the Mallenneial generation. If I don't already know 508 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: who they to see, I don't know what that heard 509 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that man, That's how that's how everything sounds tonight. I 510 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: mean it's all though, that's it at all. It is 511 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: a few dot I don't A few are like would 512 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: you would you? Would you listen to him up? I 513 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: be listening that okay. TJ put me on a chance 514 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: to wrapp ups nothing. I started like a chance to 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: wrap up. Somebody knew how Sun and didn't he just 516 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: past And Danny loves her son too. Um, it's not 517 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: his son, that's just soundings. Yeah, don't glove his Sun. 518 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Get the phone lead the weapon. That's what's leading the weapon, 519 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: the weapon that is his son. I like him though 520 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: he liked him too. He's like him A good to 521 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: that record, goddamnit, super Dub. I listened to everything, but 522 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: of course I like you know, I like all the classics. Ship. 523 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: We didn't access to it now you don't have access 524 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: to Ship before. Now we could. We're on our tunes. 525 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna listening, you know what I'm saying. Well as 526 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: you can plug us up. We were there. So you 527 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: don't like to take advantage of listening to the classic 528 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: shain't nothing like listening to the infamous Small first album 529 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the first Ship. We'll change. First off, I'm saying, I 530 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: like to listen to classic Ship. That's a part of 531 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: my workout, Like I got my little my workout mixed 532 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: first of all includes all you just said, quiet storm 533 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: shook mines, Um, don't don't super dug do before. She's 534 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: one of the homies mothers. That's we've been all night long. 535 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: How did you come up with that one? Well? I 536 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: was that song was inspired by church, So I was 537 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: kind of trying to think of a well, no, like 538 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I was referring to like a church record in terms 539 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: of the tempo and the cadence. How would I approach 540 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: So it's a gospel record that kind of something like dan, 541 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, dance when I think of what he's done, 542 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I could dance all night. So it kind of was 543 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: inspired by that. We just kind of played around with 544 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the melodies and lyrics. Yeah. I always kind of like, dang, 545 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, this beat might remind me of this. What 546 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: song has the same tempo that has a slick little 547 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: cadence to it that I could kind of sen my 548 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: bite off of and make it my own. So so 549 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: the church do Um, sometimes I refer to rap, I 550 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: mean you will, I'll be writing sometimes I'll be like, 551 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, when he approached like you know that in 552 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: my time, and you know gave me some balls. Know 553 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: you from somewhere? I keep looking at you. What do 554 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: I know you from drink Champs? You know we got 555 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: drop the mixtape. No, we've done we met past. That's 556 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: what I got, right, Okay, Now you got the ultimate one, 557 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: oh makeup song in the world, like whenever anybody is 558 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: bad and anybody and she's always come at So I 559 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: want to hear her version though I can't think, you 560 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: know what horrible, but you know that's like the ultimate, 561 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: like like like when when something goes wrong in relationship, 562 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: that record has to play when you're making up? Do 563 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: you know that that wall? Ironically enough, I was hoping 564 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: when I wrote it it was in the spirit of 565 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: okay because um, you know, Dick was already signed. But 566 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: by the time we got married, and you know, I 567 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: got him to finally move out of his mom's house 568 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: and we moved in together, he went on the road immediately, 569 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: so we really didn't get a whole lot of time 570 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: to really, you know, spend together and making our home. 571 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of meeting up with him 572 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: on the road and still trying to get the house 573 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: set up. Still trying to work on my record. So 574 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: it was more from the perspective of this is something 575 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: that I wish he would be saying to me. That 576 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: was why that was really every I was like, I 577 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: wish he would be saying this to me, you know someone. Yeah, 578 00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: we didn't see the dreams. I definitely yeah. I mean 579 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I've told this story before. Listen to no. I mean 580 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: that was really that. It was more like this is 581 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: what I want him to be saying. He was going 582 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: all the time, So it was like, damn, I'm you know, 583 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: trying my bad again. And this next one, this next 584 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: one is pretty much self explanatory. I'll be missing you. 585 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: But I got a chance to work with one twelve 586 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: and puff on that. Like, um, how did that record 587 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: come about? Obviously we know from on top of the minds, 588 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: but um how how how was this concept even like 589 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, brought up well after Big Past, I didn't 590 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: really want to do anything. I had probably started recording 591 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: my you know, I may have recorded one song on 592 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: my second album, um, but I kind of shut down. 593 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really wanted to record. I didn't I refuse 594 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: to record at Daddy's house. When I finally did start 595 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: back with Court and I was just like every like 596 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: everything you know. Um. But when puff up oas me 597 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: what the idea to do this tribute? You know, he 598 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to be the biggest tribute like 599 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: I'd ever done. And none of this came in my 600 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: mind about money and nothing. It was more about like 601 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: honoring big and he what he did say to make 602 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: me want to, you know, go on the studio was 603 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: I want, um the proceeds to go to the kids 604 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: to see j Antiana. So that's really what made me 605 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: do the record. Um, we didn't have this song at first. 606 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: The first time we went into record. What was meant 607 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: to be that tribute? You know that song? I'm sure 608 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: it's it might be how I'm elving in them? But 609 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: oh uh oh miss you, miss you. That was like 610 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: the loop they had and that ship was so sad 611 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: like it was just I'm like, we just quiet like 612 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: for three hours. Nobody came up with nothing, and then 613 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do like we I don't 614 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: think any of us like felt like we could do anything. 615 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: So the next day, um, maybe a day or too later, 616 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: when we came back to the studio, they had that 617 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: loop for the with the police thing, and it just 618 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: it just felt different, you know it was. It's like 619 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: in it you can hear where you can go lyrically 620 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: or melodically and express your pain, but it still felt 621 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: like a rejoy, like we can celebrate what he is 622 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: and what he is and wants to us, you know 623 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: what I'm like. So that's what it ended up being, Like, 624 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: let's make it feel like that. I don't want it 625 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: to feel so sad. I don't even know if I 626 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: could sing a couple of blonds on this other track, 627 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: like I was just crying like you know. So yeah, 628 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: it just felt a lot more celebratory when we came 629 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: in with the other track. Okay, so I'm actually two 630 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: more and then we're gonna go into the general joint 631 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: love like this. Where was you a love like this? 632 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: Actually I was. I had just falling in love with 633 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: my ex, my ex my second husband tied, my ex 634 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: husband tied, and this was post I was still not 635 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: wanting to work at Daddy's house. But you know, I 636 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: was into my second album and I had fallen in love. 637 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: So that's really what that song was about. And definitely 638 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: not expectedly, you know, I didn't expect that to be 639 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: like so soon after going through something. But you know, 640 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: I fell in love with him, and that's hard. I 641 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: got a hard study, always took a classes like I 642 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: never knew that with you that I like everybody. You know, 643 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: people in certain countries think me if Thatt Man Scoop 644 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: is a group I do. Oh, you know what I mean? 645 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: I never places. I've never been like, who are they? 646 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: They're great? You still enjoyed the game? I got one 647 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: more song question, but I want to ask you a 648 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: questions still, I could assist that you really still enjoyed 649 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: the game. Yes, you know what I um because I 650 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: know how to um sustain, you know, and it's not 651 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: so much. I knew how to do it while it 652 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: was being done, but I realized that a god is 653 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna always sustain me. I'm here for a reason. You know, 654 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't whatever it is, however, many units like I've 655 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: never measured my success on those type of things. You 656 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: feel me because this is all I wouldn't saying flu 657 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: but this was not my plan. I'm like, I know 658 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: I can sing, I know I want to make money 659 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: doing it, you know, but I also knew you gotta brain, 660 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: so you gotta go to college. You gotta full academic scholarship, 661 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, and should happened. But I'm just like, I 662 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: gotta figure it out. I'm a hustle. I have my daughter. 663 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: When I was like scholarship, I was in a resource 664 00:36:38,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: froom girl, the resource like that's like, yeah, regular school, 665 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: that's a fact. So so. But because most people, most people, Um, 666 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: I get a great example. Uh, when Cameron and Jim 667 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Jones was beefing, right, Cam had went, I believe Angie 668 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: Martinez and he said, I don't know why Jim is mad, because, 669 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: um he's playing with house money. And to me, I thought, 670 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: I sat back, I said, we're all playing with house money. 671 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, because the thing about 672 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: it is we're not supposed to be where we're at 673 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: the level of success, even if it's a dis amount 674 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: of success. Even if it's dis amount of success, the 675 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: odds of us actually making it makes us all have 676 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: house money. You know What's what I'm saying. So I 677 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: always look at it. My Baudy should tell me, say, 678 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: look at the person for the positivity in the first 679 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: before you look for anything else. So I just always 680 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: look at it. I just always look at it like 681 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: you know the fact that we survived and we're doing 682 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: things that we love, like we're all. We're all, We're all. 683 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, back to your point, I definitely I don't 684 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: remember your word and burden, but I definitely enjoy the game, 685 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: so to speak. But I look at it like it's 686 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: just a facet of my life. You know what I'm saying. 687 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't look at it's not you know what I'm saying, 688 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: like it's so much I don't take home with me. 689 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: But it's like, damn, I gotta kind of really sometimes 690 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: taking the perspective, you are someone who is popular to 691 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: some people, you have touch some people with your music. 692 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: So but I don't walk out the house thinking that 693 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: just with that, like you know what I mean, I 694 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: don't even expect that i'd be really genuinely appreciate it 695 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: with somebody be like I love me, like really, oh 696 00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: my god, thing like like a I don't you don't. 697 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: I meant, come on, what if you don't know about me? So, 698 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's stupid. Everybody has that. But I mean, 699 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm appreciative for the blessings that I've gotten from it, 700 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: but I know that I'm here for reasons other than 701 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: my musical gift. You know what I'm saying. I've learned 702 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: a lot and learned how to maneuver and how to 703 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of just be chill. You know, they always be 704 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: telling me like, y'all, you've really taught me a lot 705 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: about that because you just be like you could be there, 706 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: you'd be like, no, it's not even worth it. You 707 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: should do this. You know. It's more chest not checkers. 708 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta appreciate it. It 709 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: could be worse, you know what I'm saying. It's when 710 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: you aim to be. But we is something that we 711 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: never thought we could do. I never thought i'd be 712 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: a wrapper, my nigga. So I'll get an about blue 713 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: or not. I appreciate with where I went and where 714 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm at now, if I'm still relevant, somebody still welcome 715 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: to me here with my gona with you, I'll listen 716 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: to your ship. I'm cool with that. The end of 717 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: the day, we really be happy. 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That song was actually written 776 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: for j Loo. I didn't write I love it. I 777 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: think I arranged it and kind of, you know, did 778 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: my little harmony stuff that I But it was written 779 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: for j Lo. You no, it was written already. This 780 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: was on my third, my last album on bad Boy, Faithfully, 781 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: and you know, it was one of the songs that 782 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: um you know, puff kind of gave me that was 783 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: mostly written. I may and wrote a section on it, 784 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: but it was for the most part already written and 785 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: it was for Jlo. I don't know what happened. I 786 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know if this was like after they wasn't together. 787 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I had the demo and to 788 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: be just they broke up, he said, let me get 789 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: my record back. No, I don't know. Her voice wasn't 790 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: on it. I just know that it was a rich 791 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: because when I heard the Denmark could totally hear it. 792 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: I can hear it as a J Low record, you 793 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's it's a pretty um even 794 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: though it's one of my more popular records. And like 795 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the U thirty five and under dudes 796 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: that be trying to haul at me, I'm like, how 797 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: did hell you know about me? Like that? I love 798 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: your video, like after my divorce, like mad young dudes 799 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: was trying to hoel But that was so I just 800 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of I knew it was a hit record. It 801 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: just was like I had to definitely lay back me 802 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: being so used to sing. It's so soulful. It's a 803 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: real simple melody, so to be quite honest, it was 804 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: one of the songs that took a little longer for 805 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: me to or because I had to kind of lay 806 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: back and sing it real pretty, just simple and pretty. 807 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: And I think I took like three fourth sessions just 808 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: to like, you know, lay back like I got. I 809 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: know I'm doing too many. It feels too soul for 810 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: I needed this sound just real pretty, so but people 811 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: appreciate the record now. I heard you kind of allude 812 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: to this earlier. Um What has there ever been a 813 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: time where, like you know, um A and rs the 814 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: executives overbearing, so you had to actually, like you said, 815 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: I know, you said you should be called by yourself 816 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot then you had to switch over. It was 817 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: was there a time you ever had to switch back 818 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: over to what you've been like? Yo, let me just 819 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: keep a skeleton bunch because you know, I'm just because 820 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: I can't really, to be quite honest, other than on 821 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: other people's records where I've been so much produced, you know, 822 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: very few far between Baby Phase when he did that 823 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: single for me, But typically I kind of produced my 824 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: own vocals, so I'm really kind of never had that problem. 825 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: It was more talking about puff, but I think that 826 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: was just the excitement in the beginning. He just wanted 827 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: to be you know, always, And it was like, okay, 828 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: we know you got a good opinion, but I don't 829 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: think it's good about this. You know what I'm saying, Like, 830 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: you're not a stacker, you're not a harmonizer. Let me 831 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: finish my harmonies before you tell me to change something, 832 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: you know. So it was like I have to new sessions. 833 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: I realized, don't even callt him to come listening to 834 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, that's something because something just that stacker 835 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: and harmonies. Now, stacker is like doubling up. That's called sacker. 836 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's called stacking stacking, but in singing sense, 837 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: it's stacking in a unison with the same note harmonies 838 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: when you add a different note creates a fuller sound. Right, 839 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: I got a good question for you. Ever wrote something 840 00:46:51,800 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: for somebody went to the studio, was like, well again, 841 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: to be honest, when I had that issue. Lucky for me, 842 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: it was posted the error of auto tuning stuff, you 843 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I mean and said, can 844 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: you do that one again? Because it's not quite often 845 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: I've worked on other people's stuff, Like in the beginning 846 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: of my career. That was a little more part of 847 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: my hustle before I had a deal. But you know, 848 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't just had the time to just sit 849 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: around write songs. I'm usually working on someone, I'm on 850 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: a project. I don't really just have songs to work 851 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: on for other people unless they really like, I want 852 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: you to work on my ship like that, And it 853 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: got to be you know, something that's worked my dying 854 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: wid Jusulia dying exactly because we do a tyger bone 855 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: should oh man, we just let's bring back. But I mean, 856 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: she is a late and it's not often I'm actually 857 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: a boy. Let me tell you that was that was 858 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: actually sexist with me. I'm gonna take that back because 859 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: tiger bone, that's right when I can tell the girl, man, 860 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: you get something with it later straight about that shot, 861 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna go sit over. No, no, no, you gotta 862 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: drink because you know, I think I remember something. You 863 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: be honest with me seeing y'all together, and I don't 864 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: mean to get emotional, but it's like I know, big 865 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: Coach signs that like you know, like like like it's 866 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: a certain feeling, like you know when when you're homeboy 867 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: that you trust hangs out with the lady that you 868 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: love and like holding a dad like a certain fell 869 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: and like that. A man just likes that. It's just 870 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: like it's just like your writing them down to Yeah, 871 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: you's the reason why we connected. And I think you 872 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: know it's definitely certainly a supernatural thing. And we know 873 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: he's because I don't even it. It's only because of 874 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: the spirit catched on when you drove up. I didn't 875 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: even know that I was. That was favorite. I know. 876 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, come on, I'm looking like 877 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: you walk with me. I'm like, comes like, show, don't 878 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: take the shot. You haven't I haven't dropped your stuf in. 879 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: She she whips the brooke these buckets all the time, 880 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: like yo, can I borrow your minds to and people 881 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: like I got I was like, I don't care. I 882 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: just got a lot. I mean where the shower hasn't 883 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: take you didn't the poor big shot. But this is 884 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: like this is the fat, the fat, yea the tiger. 885 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: Last time I had tys that Frances, Oh, she's a veteran. 886 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: She to drink the whole. I'm not gonna lie. I 887 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for that. That was actually tasty man that 888 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 1: was not spicy. There's a little spike that's like, you're 889 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: no no right now. So one of the one of 890 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: the one of the most uh it is souls I 891 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: ever met, tag on it. One of the most purous 892 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: souls I haven't met in hip hop. What's Big? I 893 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: always seen them some. Speaking of Branson, I went to 894 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: Branston one time. Only two people I've ever seen behind 895 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: the counter of Branson is red Man and Big. Okay, well, 896 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: red Man and to introduced me to Branson, who introduced 897 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: Big to Branson. Oh this is Branson has to be making. 898 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know about Branston because I was boring them 899 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: big Jaws and Big, and I was like, were you 900 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: getting them jows? I was like red Man's uptown Branston 901 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 1: at the candy store store exactly lottipops, those tall man Eddie, 902 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: Eddie the candy man, and the other the young one. 903 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: Um I think it was Jay No No, I forgot 904 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: his name, but I know Eddie. We used to bump 905 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: hands before in the morning out there, but before before 906 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: Eddie passed. That's when I knew that they had like 907 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: some type of payola ship because one of my homies 908 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: had died from Queen's and we went up to to 909 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: get some. But we had all the champagne and we 910 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: brought all We brought all the champagne right in front 911 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: of Branston. The police just drove by. I didn't say nothing. 912 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: We smoked all the week that we had. You gotta 913 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: think about it. That spot was right around the corner 914 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: dog for like, oh yeah, but the police sation right 915 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: around the police right there, try Burbridge right there, the 916 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: Bronx to the left, the fish stole right here to 917 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: the right. Sometimes you do out there, you know what 918 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying about that? Sometimes too in the morning and 919 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: people out there about me. Did you sit there for hours? Talk? 920 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: You'd be out there for two hours and go on 921 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: side ship with time and you'll sit with the more 922 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: day because they give your free job for two hours 923 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: here get your half hours to go home with. So 924 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: your relationship with what what what little Kim? I see 925 00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: recently now it's it's prepared Back then, how was it? Well, Okay, 926 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fair to say that there 927 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: was ever a full relationship ever built. But in the beginning, um, 928 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: you know, I even see pictures. I'm like, oh, damn, 929 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: I remember that, Like, you know, I definitely once I've 930 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: realized this is Big Artists who I've been hearing about, 931 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 1: that's a part of the crew, because I met the 932 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: guys first. I think the first time I saw Kim 933 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: was at the Big Popa video shoot and I was like, 934 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: who was that girl? And he was like, oh, this 935 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: little Kim. I had heard about it before, but um, 936 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: I think by you know, initially, I was kind of 937 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: trying to be cool with it. I mean, I think 938 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: we worked pretty cool. I see pictures where you know, 939 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: I had on her glasses, she had online. You know. 940 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of being cool with it because I 941 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 1: knew that was BIGS Artists, but I didn't know anything 942 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: about their um involvement. You know, I didn't know there 943 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: was in any kind of relationship. But I was new, 944 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was new Today's circle, So I mean, 945 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known their history. And of course he 946 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to tell me that ship. But when I 947 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: found out, of course, it was like damn. You know, 948 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: like damn, what the funk all this time? Right? You know, 949 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: but I can't say that, oh she you know with 950 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: some oh she's your friend and then she you know, 951 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: it wasn't like that or you know, we didn't really 952 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: build a relationship but have a history outside of me 953 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: meeting her through knowing that she's his artist and me 954 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: already kind of being cool with the guys for a 955 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: few months and you know, like okay, let me. You know, 956 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: he kind of said in the beginnings wanted me to 957 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: kind of be around her, but I think that was 958 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: just that dumb young ship because he realized why do that? 959 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: But now I mean, I think, I mean, just to 960 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: be clear, once a big passed away any ill feelings 961 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: to her. You know, we're not the window for me her, 962 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: ain't anybody else. You know, it wasn't really anything to 963 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: feel a way about. But we didn't necessarily see each 964 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: other and get to conversate. There may have been a 965 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: time or two that I ran into her and kind 966 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: of tried to say and she, you know, may not 967 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 1: have been really ready to receive this, so it didn't 968 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: go over so well. But story you on tour, Big 969 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: on tour, you're coming through kicking the door, whipping some 970 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: chicken ass something that just okay, yeah, I mean I 971 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: went to Virginia. Yeah, that's happening. You're talking about the 972 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: scene in the movie. You shut up, you can't. That's 973 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: why I ate up to this day. You know how 974 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, how did you have to drop on big 975 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: How did you even okay? This is that? That's that 976 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: dumb young ship. I'm at home in New York and 977 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: he always well you know, they had a show, and 978 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: he will always hit me, you know when he gets 979 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: to wherever they're going, you know just how to say, 980 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: what's up. I'm just working on my Um, I wasn't. 981 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm not like a clocking you and all that, but 982 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: he just he would always kind of check and I 983 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: got here boom this particular time, just out of nowhere. 984 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: It's like he was like, yeah, so, um, if you 985 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 1: call on my room, I'm letting l use my room tonight. 986 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: So and like, why are you telling me that I 987 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 1: haven't called yet? You haven't not answered yet. You feel 988 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: mean like you're telling too much. So I'm like, what 989 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: do you mean? And I know, going, well, that's a 990 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: lot like you were ain't about to give up your 991 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: room unless somebody be in there. So just immediately I'm like, 992 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, Cagney and lazy. I was like, call me home. 993 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, because you come watch China. Already 994 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: had my whole plan together and I made my flight. 995 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: I was like, that's just a thirty minute flight. I 996 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: already knew the room number because he told me. But 997 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: he's like, don't call my room because such and such 998 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: gonna be using it. And you know you have a session. 999 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? It was so close, you know what. 1000 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: I already got the cab. My home girl came to 1001 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: keep my daughter. She's like, what are you talking about? 1002 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: What I said, I'll be back on going to Virginia. 1003 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 1: She didn't realized I was really coming right back. I 1004 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 1: got on the flight. It might have been a seven 1005 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: dam flight, landed about eight thirty, got to the hotel 1006 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: about nine nine thirty. Bump bum, you know. But when 1007 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: I got to the hotel, why and I see how 1008 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: the role man that he just happened to be he 1009 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: ain't seen me though he checking out. I see him. 1010 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm do do you know how the cartho? I just 1011 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: dipped around to the elevators, get up, stins locked on 1012 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: the door, went straight to the door and they said 1013 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: who is And I said, like, how's keeping? And the 1014 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: girl open the door a little bit and I just 1015 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: kicked it in and just started going for broke and 1016 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: your favor at the record out. You know, I had 1017 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: to go seeing I could have Thank god it was 1018 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: one year ninety and fun you know Instagram, Instagra? Who 1019 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: are you to day? The old town? Ye know what 1020 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying that right when doing with tmzad, I wanted it. 1021 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: He came into. I came in the room. He that 1022 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: I was out T's page. Just like father, I stick 1023 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: to the story. He still wasn't that guy, wasn't it 1024 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: under right? She thinks like this will enjoy like with 1025 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: the cover over like he like yo, faces came in 1026 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: head be not in the morning, sitting there. I'm sure 1027 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't like that. Who's she? I don't know, so 1028 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: you tell me she just stay she carried da I 1029 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: don't the next pie after look, sure he was over 1030 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: there cough like yo. I said, you gotta be the 1031 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: ruly shove. And it wasn't even about it was more 1032 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: so like, don't sucking something my telsen. It wasn't. I 1033 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't even want to putting hands on nobody. That was 1034 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: my intention at the moment. But it was like, son, 1035 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: don't tell me no dumb ship like that, like I 1036 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: can't let you just think that I'm stupid and I'm 1037 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: really believing that, And she wanted to answer the door. 1038 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: She might not have got sucked up stick here like 1039 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: get that. Yeah, we wanted. I felt bad for after 1040 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 1: that because I was like, look, I don't even funk. 1041 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: I was like, well you should have stupid, you should 1042 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: he just got Really, I'm like, you shut up. That 1043 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: was actually real situation about it. So actually this is 1044 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: the last time he was here with Jada kiss Well, 1045 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't have to ask you this, Um, did you 1046 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: watch The Unsolved? You know what. I haven't, but I've 1047 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: been hearing a lot about it and I want to 1048 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: catch up on it because, um, you know, and when 1049 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: people ask me about it, it's like using a pan. 1050 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: So I can't have one that since I haven't seen it. 1051 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,959 Speaker 1: But certain things that I know when people as a viewer, 1052 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily always no, Okay, this is the story 1053 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: of the detective. It doesn't mean it's not a true story, 1054 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: but one side. But it's also something that has moved 1055 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: other things that may help us in a way. So 1056 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, even though I haven't seen it, 1057 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: there you know, things that kind of shift in people saying, oh, 1058 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: we hurt that too, Like we know it is some 1059 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: of that too, but that doesn't bring us to a 1060 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: conclusion to make them arrest somebody. And there's a Johnny 1061 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: Depp movie coming out to right right actually played herself 1062 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and that she did a little don't even know that 1063 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: when she want when we were out there, Um, yeah, 1064 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: she did a little quick seeing um instead of you know, 1065 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: they had to just play herself kind of meeting with 1066 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: the guy. Oh I didn't see that. I didn't see 1067 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: that because I didn't I don't want to watch that 1068 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: first one that first. I didn't want to. Yeah, I 1069 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: just actually just watched it like like a month ago. 1070 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: I just went through and like watching like the first one. 1071 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: It's actually, Um, it's because you know, in the hood, 1072 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: we always say if we know, the police know, but 1073 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: we never we never had no proof of that until that, 1074 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Like like everything that we kind of like skeptical or speculating, 1075 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: it was the same thing that they did. So I 1076 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of appreciated that from that. Obviously, I don't have 1077 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, as much interested invested into this as as 1078 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: you got. What makes sense makes sense, make sense? So 1079 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm sitting back and I'm like a lot of this 1080 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: that some of this was just just overwhelming, and it's 1081 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: just over like I don't believe that, you know, puff 1082 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: had anything to do with the other side, Like I can't. 1083 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: I just can't. I just can't. But other things that 1084 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: was involved in that I didn't believe, Like I didn't believe, 1085 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: like the police knew. I believe the police, I would 1086 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I believe the police guys the 1087 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: East Coast, West Coast Big War more than we actually. No, 1088 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: the media definitely did well. They made up something that 1089 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: didn't really exist. Yeah, it really wasn't that they made 1090 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: They actually made it that man, the sort of thing 1091 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: was happening at the time. When you see all this 1092 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: stuff come around now, it makes you think of back 1093 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: about like certain things that came across Like when we 1094 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: was in the l A. The FEDS was actually following us, 1095 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Like what the funk? You know, what the fun was 1096 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: y'all that day? You know what I mean at the 1097 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Soul training boards, but what happened this day? So you 1098 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: always be thinking of all these like different things, but 1099 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: you don't know much. So a lot of times you 1100 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: hear about certain things, right, we don't that years later 1101 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: were like that, why right? People relationship change. It's not 1102 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: surprising what you're saying, because remember, years later we find 1103 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: him out about all the stuff they were doing the 1104 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 1: FEDS with the Black Panthers, and that's how they were 1105 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: beefs between them, and then they had a whole program 1106 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: that was like undercover doing stuff. So that's exactly what 1107 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: they should have been doing in hip hop and probably, 1108 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of obvious they were. Well here's 1109 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: the thing. I feel like they were able to um, 1110 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, to definitely heighten the fuel the fire more, 1111 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: but and not to mention some involvement in the sense 1112 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: of whatever their work they were doing with the Death 1113 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Road organization. And that's not too that's not me trying 1114 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: to sum it up and pin it on that, but 1115 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: I know there was there's clearly been. There's evidence and 1116 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: and it's documented that there was involvement you know, with 1117 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: the police and death row records or whatever, so um, 1118 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: whatever that is. But I think that just they were 1119 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: able to certainly um with the media as well, to 1120 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: heighten that ship and add to it them it may 1121 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,439 Speaker 1: have helped them to cover up some other ship because 1122 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: it's just people, you know how that Gold Street niggas gangsters. 1123 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Yo, ship is you know 1124 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. Don't get me wrong. We've heard many 1125 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: times and it wasn't in court, and it wasn't from 1126 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: the people that should be making an arrest. Who the 1127 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: person is that actually pulled the childer and killed Big 1128 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: and not so much that that mean that's true, but 1129 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I think we kind of got an idea that it's believable. 1130 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we it's not 1131 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: up to us too. We can't we can't. We can't uh, 1132 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: we can't legally implicate anyone, and we can't arrest anybody. 1133 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: So it's like until that, you know, don't matter. It 1134 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: don't matter what we think of what our conclusion based 1135 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: on all these things is if the l a p 1136 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: d doesn't choose to hold somebody at fall for his 1137 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: murder us Again, that's why I suggest you watch it, because, 1138 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 1: um it's kind of their point of view, and it's 1139 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: like we've never seen that part, you know what I'm saying. 1140 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Um me again, Um, obviously I met Big, I never 1141 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: got to met meet Tupac at all. I actually had 1142 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: a record called l A l A Defending Big and 1143 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: um So. But I never got to meet Tupac. I 1144 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: never really got and and again all I heard was 1145 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: rumor was all I heard was things. I remember me 1146 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: landing in l A after it happened, and you know, 1147 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: def jam or Tommy Boy, forget what labor I was 1148 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: on um As soon as I landed, they had police 1149 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: with me, and I was just like what it was like? Yo? 1150 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, listen, we're not taking no chances. 1151 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: You're Jervon's risking all this because y'all put it out there. 1152 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, y'all y'all were doing something he wasn't doing. 1153 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: Y'all was making the response when we wasn't. That's how 1154 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I think it was because that's what the media made it. 1155 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, because y'all wasn't speaking to us, and he 1156 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,479 Speaker 1: was telling y'all could do that. It was just because 1157 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: they're doing this, because that's what they was making it. 1158 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're doing photos shoot for 1159 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 1: a magazine and they put it out and they say 1160 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: East coast versus West coast on the vibe. You know, 1161 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: it was just they was all feeding into it, making 1162 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: it something it wasn't, and Nick was just really just 1163 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: feeding off it, you know what I'm Sayings have apologized 1164 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: since then because they realized that ship started a lot 1165 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: of you know what I mean, that's just started a 1166 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of ships. Ship was really real, like you really 1167 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: couldn't go to certain places and an't like how this great. 1168 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. Um wow, that's nothing 1169 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: the other day, but like last year or whatever. Right, 1170 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm at I'm at my hotel and Tupox movie came out. 1171 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: So in my hotel room package was tickets to the 1172 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Tupac ship. So I'm like, who ship? So I'm like, 1173 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, cool, I had tickets already. So I walked 1174 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: in there and it was the first time like I 1175 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:18,919 Speaker 1: actually was the only East coast, you know, West coast part. 1176 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: You know how I hung out with Drake Father, my nigger. 1177 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: There was something I said, ainything I don't know you 1178 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: would from Mississippi. How you doing it exists? Exists? But 1179 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I stood there like it was the first time, like 1180 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I got I got to live in their world. And 1181 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: they really we were really just confused. Motherfucker's because the 1182 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: thing about like you to think about even you know, 1183 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, New York, we were separated. We established that 1184 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: on like we're separated if right, meaning like you we'll 1185 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: say you're from Brick City, you'll say you from Brooklyn 1186 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I didn't realize that everywhere else kind 1187 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: of does the same thing too, Like like I was 1188 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: sitting there and there was like game dude, seeing each 1189 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: other's what's talking? But then they then they just walked away, 1190 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, pretty much, I don't know what 1191 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I said. I was like, yo, and mind I'm because 1192 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm the East Coast through they don't really they don't, 1193 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: they don't really, they don't really see me. I don't 1194 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: want me. The more work I have one dude. That's 1195 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: where the guards me and one dude. So um, And 1196 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: that was the first time I got to realize, like, 1197 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, I want you know what we were both. 1198 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: We were both from manipulated, like we were taught to 1199 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: think that we're different from them and they're different from us, 1200 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: when really it's the same people just with a different act. 1201 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,559 Speaker 1: And we had to do so much ship over there. 1202 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 1: It was like, yo, like you know, I don't have 1203 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: a tality back then, you really just and give a 1204 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 1: funk like you know that that's a new Yorkshire. You know, 1205 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: we we go anywhere, like man funk all that, I'm 1206 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: not gonna go nowhere. We got more now we keep going, 1207 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: so you know that's that's I don't want to knock 1208 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: streight down. So that's how I look and stuff like that. 1209 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like, you know, one thing that that 1210 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious about is you and big relationship as both 1211 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: being artists. How is that dynamic? How does that play 1212 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: out to people that are artists with careers of their own? Um, 1213 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I think that probably how do you even have quality 1214 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: time to start with? Just even that you know, we 1215 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 1: just met. We were both already artists and it wasn't 1216 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: like we were full fledged into It just happened so quick. 1217 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: So I think the person that put more thought on 1218 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 1: that than us was I mean, he liked the fact 1219 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 1: that y'all had a relationship. I couldn't there like probably 1220 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 1: on the business. But it's like I didn't even know 1221 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: y'all were dating, Like I mean, I can think I 1222 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: remember telling him like I think he likes me. But 1223 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was a matter of like two months 1224 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: six you know, two months from us meeting to being married. 1225 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 1: So it wasn't seven days like he's been said. It 1226 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: was more like two months from us meeting and actually 1227 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: getting married. But you know, I remember being such a 1228 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: big deal. It's so funny. I'm like, what the fund is? 1229 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 1: The big deal? Y'all told puff y'all like we have 1230 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: to make this big old meet and announced it. You 1231 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: are quipped, you have a catheter. I'm trying to the 1232 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: next month drinking work. First they called me the only time. 1233 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: First of all, first we could hear you first. I think. 1234 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's no other guests requested trying your bone, 1235 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 1: because that's what I'm want, Like, come on, get going 1236 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: on the baby guy, man, come on, help, let's star 1237 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: leave that out there. That's going on the big one. Pause. 1238 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: That's that's three fucking great people over. I can't that's 1239 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the way. So rest in peace. I didn't get that. 1240 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, rest in peace. I didn't mean that. 1241 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 1: But my son FaceTime with different strokes. There are suns 1242 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: weird out. Mopster still alive though, still okay, And I 1243 01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: say killed name Louis is his name? That college slipping 1244 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: backs to see what cocaine has. Two weeks ago was 1245 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: there has about in front of the cannon ball. Damn, 1246 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I was punked up with that. Just now, man, I 1247 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: feel bad about very cool man. Man, I didn't know 1248 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: that not so um so you got don sounds so disappointed. Man, 1249 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: that was my god. They compare me to for a 1250 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: long time. He's like, now he's still alive. Listen, just 1251 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: quite a few people. There's quite a few people who 1252 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 1: had the craziest run in the music industry. Bad boy 1253 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: that had one of the craziest one at one point. 1254 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: If you didn't think they had the longest run, if 1255 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 1: you ain't hip hop like strange eventI every nowaday, sorry 1256 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: you don't have something you didn't you agree, Benji, y'all 1257 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: had the illest one. Y'all tours, y'all dice games mostly 1258 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: like like like describe y'all first toy like as a 1259 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: as a bad boy family together. Let me tell you 1260 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 1: about mine. Okay it was two years ago. I don't 1261 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: know what the reunion tour. Okay, hold on part of that, Okay, 1262 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 1: but hold I understand you didn't You didn't go because 1263 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: the biggest jealousy or you didn't go because me and 1264 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 1: Big was going through it. But on some other ship. 1265 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, I still was about my money and our career. 1266 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Ship was very separate, you know. Um, and they wanted 1267 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: me to go on the tour, fucking saying it's promo 1268 01:13:51,479 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: that means free, my niggah. Like I was okay, not 1269 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 1: only on the personal side. I had found out about 1270 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Big and Camp. Then Big was already dating, um, Charlie Baltimore. 1271 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 1: This so I listening happened. Not gonna don't avoid ship 1272 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 1: you dot boyd ship. I'm not angry. It's so good. 1273 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm still Yeah, I was doing shows like you know, 1274 01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: getting Like I want to say, at the time, I 1275 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 1: had maybe two singles out, but I had a gold 1276 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 1: My album might even been gold. But I know I 1277 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: had two gold singles for sure, and maybe my album 1278 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,640 Speaker 1: almost go. I'm getting paid like sevent just to do 1279 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 1: two songs, three songs on the on the night, you know, 1280 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: maybe seventy five gees. Like that was okay for me. 1281 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,519 Speaker 1: Why am I gonna go on a tour for free 1282 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: and might have to fund somebody up, you know what 1283 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I don't want to even This is 1284 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: me trying to be very not around that ship because 1285 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that right exactly exactly like 1286 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: hell night doing that, and I um went to l 1287 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,560 Speaker 1: A because this producer was saying he would want to 1288 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: pay me the write songs for his group, which is 1289 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 1: who I was with in the club to night that 1290 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: I met Tupac with when Tres was with Tupac in 1291 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 1: the club in l A. Because I was just trying 1292 01:15:54,840 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: to make money, this makes sense, and they was Tres Tres, 1293 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't Trench from Jersey used to be at Brehouse. 1294 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: So he was some one like, Yo, my boy, Pad 1295 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: want to meet you. I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest 1296 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: with you. Right, I hadn't met you. We got we 1297 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: gotta take a ball, not okay, right, cool? So I 1298 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: haven't met you solo solo cool. You gotta Tau for 1299 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the Birk met you, Oh my god, And I knew 1300 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,679 Speaker 1: the most lovable person. I met you in Justice. Oh wow, 1301 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I met you in Justice and um we were just 1302 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: there and I had smelled like wee and I knew 1303 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 1: like like the type of person you was. So when 1304 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 1: we visited the picture, I was like that pure and 1305 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 1: I had just like I could tell like, yeah, knew 1306 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 1: that I'm cool. No, I'm cool with everybody, and that's 1307 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 1: not the experience of that that in hindsight, you know. 1308 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 1: But and we were just on everything, just talking about 1309 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 1: this like last night. But you know, it's like nigger, 1310 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: you know me a big would I told Big I 1311 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: met Pop like I would avoid Biggs calls some time 1312 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 1: to that producer's house that I was working just on 1313 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 1: my little bullshit. You know, we did dumb ship. But 1314 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,560 Speaker 1: then this time I took you. I was happy to 1315 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 1: tell him because I knew, like Big did not want 1316 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,639 Speaker 1: to believe that. I didn't know Pop, but I knew 1317 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,680 Speaker 1: what he said about him, how he felt about him, 1318 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: and so when he even had an inkle of like 1319 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: at that time, it wasn't confirmed like he really feel 1320 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: like that. But it was a little ship. It wasn't 1321 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: no social you know what I mean. Like I don't 1322 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: know if it was even so much direction at the time, 1323 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 1: it wasn't. That article wasn't out. So I was happy, like, yo, 1324 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 1: I met your boy poking. He told me he liked 1325 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: my music and want to do something for me. I'm 1326 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: thinking it was he didn't say don't do it, He's like, 1327 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: you gonna do it. I was like, yeah, I gave 1328 01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: him Mark's number told how much it's gonna be. Yeah, 1329 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,560 Speaker 1: he was my he was bigg manager. So after a 1330 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 1: certain point I let him be my manager because I 1331 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a manager when I got signed. But you know, 1332 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't something that I was hiding. You 1333 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: put it. That's the point I'm making, And my point 1334 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: was it Big would have said, don't do it it Big, 1335 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: because we know Big wasn't. He wasn't on the garden 1336 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 1: and he probably a little confused, like I don't think 1337 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,600 Speaker 1: that's true, because there's no way he could feel that 1338 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: he could think. Would you understood how he tried to 1339 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 1: use you as a causual tier the wall? Absolutely, and 1340 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: not only I'm not only him. But the thing is, 1341 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 1: at that time, I didn't even know the bigger situation. 1342 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: When I went to the studio with cop I didn't 1343 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,600 Speaker 1: know he was signed to death Roll. I was on 1344 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: stage with Pup at that Source Awards when she said 1345 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: that I was there on stage but I didn't know. 1346 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't say I didn't know what you were talking about. 1347 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: I had on a like a champagne colored su Chris Webber, 1348 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: me and public I'm confused and clapping at like was 1349 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: going on. And even when I went to studio, until 1350 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I walked in a studio, I didn't know Pop was 1351 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 1: signed to death Row. Like I immediately was like, oh ship, 1352 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 1: Like I knew other people from just whatever I've seen 1353 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: in the media. I saw probably uh, I don't remember, 1354 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 1: maybe Danny Way corrupt corrupt was there, you know what 1355 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: I mean. But I just started being a cool person, 1356 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 1: my hands smoking with everybody. You know, I'm gonna get 1357 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: this hook done. But I felt a little weird because 1358 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I just didn't know he was on death Row. And 1359 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 1: I knew that this guy who runs this label had 1360 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 1: just said something about the president runs my label, even 1361 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,720 Speaker 1: though I didn't know boy it was coming from, and 1362 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: I didn't know where it was coming from for even 1363 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 1: years after even for a few years after that, you know, 1364 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: like there's a whole backstory too. I left that has 1365 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: nothing to do a big or two you know what 1366 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's yeah, that's so um okay. In 1367 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 1: the movie again, it says, um again, I'm just a 1368 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 1: little into the movie, this can be um false for 1369 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: big hands about it and and me as being a man, 1370 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: that was my wife. We were just talking about that. No, No, 1371 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,560 Speaker 1: that happened, um Big. I think what happened was that 1372 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,640 Speaker 1: it was like I don't know what magazine and may 1373 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 1: have been Vibe, may have been sourced one of those, 1374 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: or may have been New York something rubble Stone, but 1375 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: they were there was an article and this is prior 1376 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: to I mean, this is after me going in the 1377 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 1: studio with Tupac. But again, there was no up right, 1378 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've heard it before, but I don't know. 1379 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was just it's online, but 1380 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on the actual death 1381 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Row release or something like it was never approved something. 1382 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 1: I think they put it out with the girl duel 1383 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 1: singing it. But do you want to know the irony? 1384 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: You know what the song was called? Right? I wonder 1385 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: why I didn't call you bitch? Right? Yes, imagine you 1386 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like this is what I'm singing 1387 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 1: right now in the moment of me like, oh this 1388 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 1: snik is on death ro Like you know what I'm saying, 1389 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Like it was weird, but one what was gonna happen next? 1390 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 1: Until I did never get my mother fucking checking. So 1391 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 1: is prior to that, um big, and Pop work good. 1392 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: Well again, I never met Pop. But let me take 1393 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 1: you back before that to the Quad studio night, which 1394 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,560 Speaker 1: is another story that has been, you know, differently purported, 1395 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 1: but I remember I wasn't there, but I was at 1396 01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: our apartment in Brooklyn and Big called me boo who 1397 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 1: crying after that ship happened and telling me, I'm going 1398 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: to belve you to check on Pop. You feel me. 1399 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: So whether anybody ever said that, but I know that, well, 1400 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I knew before that. I knew he would never that 1401 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: wasn't something he would do. I spoke to them soon 1402 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 1: they used to be with me or they're like, oh 1403 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 1: my god, I don't I know. We ran upstairs and 1404 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, you know, I think it 1405 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: may not have been right away, but you know, by 1406 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: the time it got to public consumption, it wasn't more 1407 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: than a week later that people were saying that he 1408 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: said that or he obviously did say it, that he 1409 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: said they had something to do with it. But I 1410 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: knew that wasn't the case. Like he did called me 1411 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: crying going to check on him. That wasn't fake. He 1412 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 1: don't have to call me. He's like, oh my god, 1413 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 1: this just happened. Season him and I'm gonna go check 1414 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,760 Speaker 1: on my man, make sure you are right, you know. 1415 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: And he came home later, but um, you know, he 1416 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 1: still kind of wanted to think that their relationship was 1417 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 1: a little more genuine than what he was here. I'd 1418 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: know what. Obviously Pop had shifted for whatever reason. You 1419 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: know his feelings about Big. You know, they was young. 1420 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 1: It was a battery back. If they would have met 1421 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 1: with each other, that would be I think he's definitely 1422 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: hopefully wasting a one day work it out, you know 1423 01:22:54,400 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that y'all saw each other at everything. No, no, 1424 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 1: I want a piece of He said, that wasn't That 1425 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: wasn't the Pop We like, he couldn't believe that dude 1426 01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 1: was doing that. But you know he was with Sugar. 1427 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: You know Sugar, Like everybody know that Shug was putting 1428 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 1: the battery in his back, had him, you know, doing 1429 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 1: that type of ship because he had a personal situation 1430 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,720 Speaker 1: with Puff, you know what I'm saying that, And you 1431 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: know we didn't know about that or you know that 1432 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,360 Speaker 1: ship don't come around to you. Hear rumors about that 1433 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,720 Speaker 1: ship like it was some personal ship with them that 1434 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: that trickled down to beyond pop situation. What I'm saying, 1435 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Pop didn't want to do that, but that you know, 1436 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,400 Speaker 1: they built him out of jail and he came out, 1437 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: and you know, his loyalty was to that. He can't 1438 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 1: knock him for that, you know what I'm saying. Our 1439 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: loyal t was towards Big. It is what it is. 1440 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 1: We didn't just it's no other reason for me to 1441 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: dislike that man. We didn't like him because he was 1442 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 1: going against my man. That's my boss, that's my brother, 1443 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's just how it was. 1444 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 1: And that wasn't really who Pop was. We hung out 1445 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: with him before, and that's why Big didn't. That's why 1446 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Big didn't response and do these things, you know what 1447 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it supposed to went to that level, 1448 01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you know Big, That's 1449 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 1: why he never made a response. That's why he didn't 1450 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: even feed into the ship that went down with the 1451 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 1: picture with harding him. He knew who he was, and 1452 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 1: he knew her before for first and foremost what I'm saying, 1453 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: But it wasn't nothing to really trip about, you know 1454 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: what i mean. But because her partner how how old 1455 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: was you because like like you're you're like like like 1456 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: that was like the first person like that they used you, 1457 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Like no, but I publicly and people knew of there's 1458 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 1: other people, you know, it hasn't been oh he says 1459 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: this and go to that die. But yeah, I think 1460 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: in terms of like being um, you know, kind of 1461 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: publicly judged in regard to a situation and making it 1462 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,720 Speaker 1: seem like it was my situation is way more than your. 1463 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,640 Speaker 1: You stayed classy too, you could, you could try, but 1464 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, don't get me wrong. I got I was 1465 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 1: very mad at first because I was like, my lord 1466 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 1: and I sued him for saying that once I started 1467 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 1: hearing they saying this, and he was like, I mean, 1468 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: come on, like you know, like you're gonna sue the 1469 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 1: MIKEE for saying something you know that don't And I 1470 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,080 Speaker 1: was just like thinking of by like, girl, this could 1471 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 1: get really ugly, like you know, I ain't about to 1472 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, not even knowing that the ship is way 1473 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: bigger than somebody saying something about you, you know what 1474 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean. I didn't know the whole full story, but 1475 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I knew that ship was wrong. But I figured enough 1476 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 1: to well I was like, excuse me, you know what, 1477 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: I know what it is. God knows what it is. 1478 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 1: And the only person I was concerned about initially was 1479 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 1: really Big and talking to Big, you know, which I 1480 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 1: never really got to do. Because back to that scene 1481 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 1: when you say he came and he heard about it, 1482 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,679 Speaker 1: that was really what you started talking about that happened. 1483 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, he was like, what the funking? I'm like, like, 1484 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you're sucking. But I think it was more so him 1485 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 1: hearing about the bigger situation. And this is after Hit 1486 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: him Up came out. I noticed before Hit him Up, 1487 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,080 Speaker 1: just before hit out article, it was an article saying 1488 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 1: that I traded my Yeah, the picture was one thing, 1489 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 1: but there was an article which Sugar Tupac and Sugar 1490 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,560 Speaker 1: was like, um, I traded in my wedding ring and 1491 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 1: took him shop and brought him but I bought him 1492 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 1: the outfit he had one in the magazine. It was 1493 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: also heart a cool that they were talking about the 1494 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 1: same stuff. So you're right, it might have been a 1495 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 1: video somewhere too, but you know, it was like it 1496 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: was just when I've heard about it, and then Big 1497 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: kind of it was right after me coming back from 1498 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: l a experiencing that session with him and like him 1499 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of breaking on me saying I gotta sunk his 1500 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: dick to get my check. I'm just saying I because 1501 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to rehash it in that sense, 1502 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 1: because I keep like, yeah, I've talked about it, and 1503 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't you know, but yeah, things happened in a 1504 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: different way where I was like, this isn't what I 1505 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: signed up for, so, you know, and I don't want 1506 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: to do that because I've seen another interview. I'm like, 1507 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: why did I end up talking about it again? You know, 1508 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: it's I talked about it in my book and I 1509 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:07,320 Speaker 1: ain't really trying to like, uh shoot on his uh legacy. 1510 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so to speak in terms 1511 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 1: of just my personal experience, but you know, I know that, 1512 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 1: you know, the way I just felt like it was 1513 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: it was definitely some other weird influence, Like I didn't 1514 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable around him on the strength of 1515 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 1: knowing anything other than the fact that Big really fucked 1516 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 1: with him. That's what I can't say. You feel what 1517 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You feel me. That's the only reason I 1518 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 1: was like, and I was happy. That's why I was 1519 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 1: happy to tell Big Yo, I met your boy pap. 1520 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 1: If I if I'm trying to funk with this nigga, 1521 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,600 Speaker 1: why am I gonna tell you my husband, who's definitely 1522 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: about not trying to see me with no other nigga. 1523 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Big, you know, which 1524 01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: is why I was so offended when he was had 1525 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 1: to order to be out with like nigga white people 1526 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: FU killed me if I was trying to you know 1527 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, So it was just it was 1528 01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 1: just weird. It was just all very quick and it 1529 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: was just weird, you know. But I think I think 1530 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: the fact that when Um I kind of used you, 1531 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: I think that when against everybody from that on out. 1532 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: Now when uh yea he tried to kind of pull 1533 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: the same thing, it backfired and not on um. Just 1534 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 1: now Drake kind of tried to do the same things 1535 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: and it backfired on him. Was because those kind of 1536 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 1: like cheap shots, you don't supposed to do that, right, 1537 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: certain things like if you're a real guy, you don't 1538 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 1: you don't involve other people money. My situation is with you, right, 1539 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 1: That's why Big, I'm not gonna But that's because I 1540 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 1: did go on the studio. Whether people understand the fact 1541 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: that I just didn't know, sir. You know, I ain't 1542 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: looking for no sympathy, but I know what it really was. 1543 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: I was down there to get money. Like out, It's okay. 1544 01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't tripping off of no getting back at I'm 1545 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: trying to make money and I don't want to suck 1546 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,640 Speaker 1: a bit up every day and for free. I'm just 1547 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: saying that tour over there. It's crazy you mentioned Jay 1548 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 1: because I was thinking when we were talking about this, 1549 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,800 Speaker 1: how they were able to resolve their ship and look 1550 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 1: how they grew together in a sense of you know, 1551 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,640 Speaker 1: business that I could just imagine, you know, imagine what 1552 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,799 Speaker 1: that could have been, what they could have done united. 1553 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,960 Speaker 1: It would have been crazy. But they they they have, 1554 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 1: they opened up the door to That's what hip hop 1555 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,840 Speaker 1: is about now when we talk about getting it right 1556 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 1: and getting it straight and getting on the right path. 1557 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 1: That's the example we use. You know, when he's Wrappers 1558 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 1: out here beating today and doing all this ratchet, putting 1559 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,879 Speaker 1: guns or down, why you beat? You've seen what happened. 1560 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:49,520 Speaker 1: But today, sometimes like I feel like that this generation 1561 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 1: feels disconnected from that generation. They're like that's some on 1562 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,599 Speaker 1: purpose they felt disconnected because they don't want to feel 1563 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 1: let right, they don't want to People don't know the 1564 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,920 Speaker 1: spirit of all of these those things. You know, we 1565 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 1: just had a conversation that kind of enlightened whoever may 1566 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: not have known about that, and it might be like, 1567 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 1: oh damn, it was actually a whole spirit in the 1568 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 1: core of you know, the big impacts relationship, what became 1569 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,640 Speaker 1: of it and what the you know what I mean, 1570 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 1: there was some type of real spirit inside of that 1571 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know. So I think a lot 1572 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,320 Speaker 1: of people that in terms of speaking on based on 1573 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 1: that story alone or that example, they don't really understand 1574 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 1: that it's more just a beef. They don't really understand 1575 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: like what we just talked about, like really history behind. 1576 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,840 Speaker 1: He didn't want to believe you know what I'm saying 1577 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,200 Speaker 1: that I wouldnerstand myself, Like I remember me making L 1578 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,240 Speaker 1: A L A the record to defend Big and bringing 1579 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 1: the big seeing it because he genuinely cared. But I 1580 01:30:54,200 --> 01:31:07,800 Speaker 1: think just he was he was because yeah, when I 1581 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: couldn't even picture it, he was like, look, we're not 1582 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: gonna this tim because they accused me of somebody do 1583 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,560 Speaker 1: North and I'm like, nah, be this is how we 1584 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,680 Speaker 1: used to see them. It's how they're approaching us like nah, 1585 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm like no, nah, and like I've never been before 1586 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:32,320 Speaker 1: in my life at that time, I mean you already 1587 01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 1: had that in your hand, Like man, if I got 1588 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 1: to go back there now, this is our mentality, and 1589 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,960 Speaker 1: natis mentality, like you know, to their kids, do that 1590 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 1: just now for wreck. You know, you put me on 1591 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 1: the ground, We're gonna pull up. You know that's we 1592 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 1: didn't have that money. It was straight man, you stick 1593 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: shift in my life everything is automatic right now. Cheat 1594 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 1: you know it was stick shifting on every my nigga, 1595 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, to learn how to da at that point 1596 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 1: you can go to the club, but not knowing that 1597 01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:00,559 Speaker 1: the nitya pull up right. There ain't no texting me back. 1598 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,679 Speaker 1: You're not sitting in so you know that's how we can't. 1599 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,640 Speaker 1: That's that's the ver of that. This game is so 1600 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,760 Speaker 1: like on the flip side, I'm happy, ain't nobody catch me, 1601 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, pulling up catching rack on nobody's video. There's 1602 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: no social media, you know. You know we start some 1603 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,360 Speaker 1: of the days when we had to sit around fifty 1604 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 1: left right, guys and guys got ninety niggas for queens. 1605 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 1: You've got landing niggs from Brooklyn. M P Got thirty 1606 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: niggas from Browns. Building Chain got two hundred niggas. Gust 1607 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,320 Speaker 1: all types of ship they're here at braided ever ships 1608 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:59,280 Speaker 1: with them strange nigga. Nobody's service, No no around here. 1609 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,720 Speaker 1: You get to the ball, yo, my bitches, not coming 1610 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:09,439 Speaker 1: to just what are you make straight? Forty dirty days? 1611 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:21,679 Speaker 1: You one of you're a large because I love shout 1612 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:27,719 Speaker 1: out the Red Kwan and met the man that dirt 1613 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,639 Speaker 1: your dirty little fucked up is back up days. I'll 1614 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:36,160 Speaker 1: see my drant ship on for like eight months because 1615 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,360 Speaker 1: let's set shot. You just wake up and just put 1616 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,640 Speaker 1: almos on the side of your bed. What actually not 1617 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 1: taking that to the we would be the album comes 1618 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 1: to the ship that you just ma have stallus cous days. 1619 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,880 Speaker 1: People bring you your shoes and shirts and ship lined 1620 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 1: up the days shoes out of the shoes out to 1621 01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 1: make you step In the movie where he had two 1622 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 1: sides thirties that they had these the gators right and 1623 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 1: you know the uh what he was there was a twelve, 1624 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 1: he went thirteens. But you know they probably run a 1625 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 1: little smaller in the gator joint and the ships were 1626 01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 1: too tight and they ain't had no other options. He 1627 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,679 Speaker 1: cut the back of the shoes and made them basically 1628 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,600 Speaker 1: made him slides. He cut the back of the n 1629 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,880 Speaker 1: gators and performed on the source of forts like but 1630 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 1: you couldn't see because the pants was on that. They 1631 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,080 Speaker 1: made him some fucking slidings and cut the whole back 1632 01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,479 Speaker 1: out and so trained on the back of on the 1633 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:40,640 Speaker 1: back shy. Let me just walk like slipper, Let me 1634 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 1: just back too tight, he moved too much asgott gun 1635 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 1: up manly. So gonna make your old movie. I'm actually 1636 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 1: working on it. Yeah, you set up a home movie. 1637 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:15,080 Speaker 1: You They don't know that because because you know how 1638 01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we're talking about because when I 1639 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: see the Death Rowd movie and that's Michelle a. Right, 1640 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 1: even though Michell l A, it didn't coincide, you know 1641 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,080 Speaker 1: what what in the movie did, but it also was 1642 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 1: their part of it was just her part of the story. 1643 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. I didn't understand it, but didn't 1644 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,639 Speaker 1: from you as a person who said it very straight 1645 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,640 Speaker 1: and give you my very fortom university and true at 1646 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 1: the same time, I am working on a biopic, but 1647 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 1: it's actually a companion to my New York Times best 1648 01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: selling biography called Keep the Safe. So I wrote a 1649 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:09,320 Speaker 1: book so much answered to Biggie's movie and the Funnies. 1650 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 1: Shit about that is um. When I wrote my book, 1651 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,599 Speaker 1: the publishers put it out, and you know, I knew 1652 01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 1: about Miss Wallace and the doing the Notorious movie, but 1653 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was actively a part of you know, yeah, 1654 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 1: I went and c J feeling this part and you know, 1655 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,560 Speaker 1: you got a sign for your life, right, But it 1656 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like I was. But when they decided to put 1657 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,640 Speaker 1: it out, it was kind of around the song the 1658 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 1: time that they wanted to put out. I mean that 1659 01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 1: the Notorious movie was coming out, and that was never 1660 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 1: my plan when I decided to write a memoir. You 1661 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 1: feel me, So I kind of felt weird, like I 1662 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 1: don't want people to think I'm trying to piggyback. So 1663 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,599 Speaker 1: that's why I didn't never really go on a book too. 1664 01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,320 Speaker 1: I didn't promote my book because I felt I couldn't 1665 01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 1: get them to change the day. It might have been 1666 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 1: like a month or a few weeks, you know, later 1667 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 1: than the movie. But I just felt strange. I was like, 1668 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,639 Speaker 1: people want to clearly think, right, And that's I decided 1669 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: to do the book because I was pregnant and refused 1670 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,599 Speaker 1: to do a record with the able. I was one 1671 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, that's the only reason I didn't. 1672 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 1: The guy was like asking me for years to write 1673 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 1: a book, and I'm like, okay, that's a cool little 1674 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,360 Speaker 1: couple of hundred thousand, you know. Um, That's why I 1675 01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 1: did it. But when it decided to be when they 1676 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,519 Speaker 1: decided to release it, just so happens. The Toriis movie 1677 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,400 Speaker 1: was coming out a month or two before, and I 1678 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 1: was just like, it feels weird. But they was like, well, 1679 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,920 Speaker 1: that's not what we're based on our release on this 1680 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,719 Speaker 1: is in the book world, and this is the window 1681 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,479 Speaker 1: you know how that go, you know, like on the 1682 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,560 Speaker 1: whatever day of the week they put out albums or 1683 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,120 Speaker 1: you know. Um, So that's why I never really haven't leave. 1684 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,080 Speaker 1: My book would have been but it's one of them 1685 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 1: called favorite movie is supposedly based off of my book. 1686 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 1: Loosely based on my book because my book kind of 1687 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,479 Speaker 1: ended at me leaving bad Boy, but I got married 1688 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,400 Speaker 1: after that. I had a kid after that. So there's 1689 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,559 Speaker 1: things that's happened in my life. So obviously I'm gonna, 1690 01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, try and put some of those things in there. 1691 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,479 Speaker 1: But it's kind of based on my book, which is 1692 01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 1: my story. But my story isn't based on me and 1693 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,640 Speaker 1: bigs withationship, even though that's the most sensational part of 1694 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,200 Speaker 1: it and there's a huge part of my life and 1695 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: an important part of my life. But you know, there's 1696 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 1: ship that I've been before that used to get my 1697 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,759 Speaker 1: be for sneaking out the window to go to somebody's 1698 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,640 Speaker 1: studio that I ain't even you know know, I was 1699 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a recording artists, so you know what I 1700 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,760 Speaker 1: used to man niggas when I was a little That's 1701 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,720 Speaker 1: why Dick don't really do ship for me now, like 1702 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 1: you're wait, wait let me, I don't want to ship. 1703 01:38:43,960 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 1: He's title lady right about wow. I mean when I 1704 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:13,720 Speaker 1: was like Fabiro Jase seventeen, I will pretty miss you 1705 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: with and only it was just like, oh, I like him, 1706 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:29,519 Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I asked that, doesn't you 1707 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:42,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna be yeah, I'm letting my home lose say 1708 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,479 Speaker 1: but you don't right to say why not. I don't 1709 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,800 Speaker 1: right the death around nobody wants to hear. Why you 1710 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,880 Speaker 1: can't say that? You can say you can't, I can't 1711 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 1: you want to say I'm not like that's the voice 1712 01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 1: shocking up now. I was singing this ship. I was 1713 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:17,160 Speaker 1: a maneuver apart. I was trying to make is that 1714 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 1: that has never been something that has driven me in turn, 1715 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Like we were just talking about how people like, you know, 1716 01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 1: certain people things coming on to him when we be out, 1717 01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, why she think you 1718 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 1: don't like you don't have a label, Like so she 1719 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 1: wants to suck you because she thinks she's gonna be all. 1720 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,759 Speaker 1: But we know that's kind of like how this culture 1721 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 1: is a lot. But I'm like, I got that out 1722 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,880 Speaker 1: the way when I was a teenager. I ain't chick 1723 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 1: trying to get way. I'm here. Don't tell my mother, 1724 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 1: don't watching. This is why to hang on. This is 1725 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: why you know that I got your ship. Take ship, 1726 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 1: Come on, Gary, take a ball. This is great. Let's brisk. 1727 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's for that last one was hard. I'll take one 1728 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 1: for that. Oh my god, I don't want the one. 1729 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't want them more. That's I'll take one more. 1730 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:51,639 Speaker 1: I'll do it. I will don't talk for she don't checking. Wow. Yeah, 1731 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:57,600 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Uh actually never got this 1732 01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 1: text before in my life, especially for the last two 1733 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: and a half years. Uh, Elliott Wilson had to text 1734 01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,800 Speaker 1: me it's that good interview with Push. Nice. You guys 1735 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 1: were focused, We were focused. I don't think there are 1736 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,479 Speaker 1: any more focus than you've ever been. I just think, well, well, 1737 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:32,840 Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, like I would like to think, 1738 01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson, I'll pick you up y and and I 1739 01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 1: will also because I did, I did take that part 1740 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:46,320 Speaker 1: of be dots when so many people were like push 1741 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 1: Push your this phenomenal body your work, when I yeah, 1742 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:53,960 Speaker 1: and everybody asking them about Drake right, funk that let's 1743 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 1: talk about your body at work. So I'm I'm just sorry, 1744 01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 1: just had a moment clarity, but faith, yes, you've got 1745 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:09,479 Speaker 1: to be like the realest woman perfect. Sorry, I'm not 1746 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 1: sorry for you. I'm sorry for anything that people because no, honestly, 1747 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,320 Speaker 1: I know I get really, I mean, I'm just I'm comfortable. No, no, 1748 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: this to me all the time, I forgot the cameras 1749 01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:35,160 Speaker 1: was there sometimes that you didn't But that's why that's 1750 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,400 Speaker 1: like you like, you just sugned me real quick, like 1751 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,400 Speaker 1: I like, yo, come on, y'all know. But that's why 1752 01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 1: I like, I always defended you with that the picture. 1753 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 1: It was because I know you like and I know 1754 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:51,600 Speaker 1: like your lovable person energy. Your energy is just like 1755 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,599 Speaker 1: I kid you not. I met you in Justice one 1756 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,000 Speaker 1: day and I stood there and I get you a 1757 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 1: hug or something like, you know how people like you 1758 01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,360 Speaker 1: know I'm Spanish, so when we get a breaking you know, 1759 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,280 Speaker 1: we kiss you on the side of your cheek and 1760 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,800 Speaker 1: I guess you must have smelled muslim oil and mad marijuana. 1761 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 1: He was like, nigga, you got mad We we do? 1762 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:20,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, we don you know what 1763 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean. And I was like, yo, you know, I 1764 01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,439 Speaker 1: got you and and we we came out side playing smoke. 1765 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 1: We gave out side smoked and you were so lovable 1766 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,800 Speaker 1: and I was just like and it made me think 1767 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,920 Speaker 1: back on that picture. I said, that ship it has 1768 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with us. He was that happened in 1769 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:44,880 Speaker 1: the industry, where with nobody's situation ain't nothing to me, 1770 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 1: especially when it's a female too. We know. Looking It's 1771 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,439 Speaker 1: funny because that picture was the very first time I 1772 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,040 Speaker 1: somebody made to sing the picture and thought we had 1773 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 1: hung out several times. That's the first time I met him, 1774 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 1: only because Ruck saying, hey, Tutok want to meet you, 1775 01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,519 Speaker 1: and you know why, you didn't know how it was 1776 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 1: a little definitely you could see like I did not 1777 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,240 Speaker 1: do the FIA because I'm like I did. It was high, 1778 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:19,640 Speaker 1: but it might have been like it was supposed to be. 1779 01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,880 Speaker 1: So somebody asked you something, is it anything if you 1780 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,720 Speaker 1: could do over in in this game, over the one 1781 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:32,960 Speaker 1: thing that you want to do over um? That's an 1782 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,280 Speaker 1: okair question to say one thing you want to be 1783 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,640 Speaker 1: Because I did a song and it goes um and 1784 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:45,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of a general just like because you're about 1785 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 1: to go into your ship. I was just like, yeah, 1786 01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,040 Speaker 1: I know, she just throwing off the head. I don't know, 1787 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's like okay. In two thousand 1788 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,200 Speaker 1: and five, I came out with my album and Capital. 1789 01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,120 Speaker 1: That was my first deal after I left the bad 1790 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Boy Just who happened? I got arrested with my ex 1791 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:23,120 Speaker 1: husband saying I was not quiet. I said nothing, no 1792 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:32,800 Speaker 1: finished ahead anyway, getting crazy. I'm not even gonna go there. 1793 01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 1: Nothing less. I came out with my album on my 1794 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 1: new label after leaving Bad Boy, and it was like, okay, 1795 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,519 Speaker 1: this is the first one that you got, but you 1796 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:45,200 Speaker 1: just got arrested. Even though you're arrested, was a little 1797 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:50,360 Speaker 1: purported and anyway, people basically say, like, you know, I 1798 01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,280 Speaker 1: had to be a rehab for crack. It was like 1799 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,360 Speaker 1: some real bullshit, Like anyway, the real story, I picked 1800 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 1: my husband up from the airport and they checked the 1801 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,240 Speaker 1: slug as they found a cigarette case with a joint 1802 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,720 Speaker 1: and and you know something that they said was either 1803 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,920 Speaker 1: ecstasy or cocaine, but they never sent to a laugh. 1804 01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 1: But I happened to be the driver, and I happened 1805 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 1: to be the one that was a famous person, and 1806 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,479 Speaker 1: he happened to not say, hey, that was just mine. 1807 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,080 Speaker 1: So I happen to have to go down and it's 1808 01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:23,479 Speaker 1: all good because you know, I'm no But anyway, I 1809 01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 1: still got to be the one to get both of 1810 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 1: us out for me, so why not. Anyway, the point 1811 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm making this um and they like, and I was like, 1812 01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 1: I got this there, you know, I got this is 1813 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,360 Speaker 1: my first thing. So the hook goes, if I had 1814 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:45,000 Speaker 1: to do it all again, I wouldn't take away the 1815 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,960 Speaker 1: rain because I know it made me who I am. 1816 01:47:49,680 --> 01:48:00,040 Speaker 1: So basically a lot of ship happened. That's okay, I 1817 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:09,680 Speaker 1: don't flow that ship again. Like there's so much stuff that, 1818 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,200 Speaker 1: yeah I had I known, and I wouldn't. But I'm 1819 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,759 Speaker 1: really not mad because even sometimes i'd be like, people 1820 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,160 Speaker 1: think that I'm just like gay. So I guess I 1821 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,640 Speaker 1: am in the way of I don't like nobody to 1822 01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,800 Speaker 1: play me, but I'm not like some bits that like 1823 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,960 Speaker 1: to fight, and like all my cousins like all my life. 1824 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,679 Speaker 1: I know my cousin's want to me all my life, 1825 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:36,639 Speaker 1: like my grandmother like, so I never was a fighter 1826 01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,280 Speaker 1: in terms of I want to fight, but I was 1827 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,800 Speaker 1: in the industry as a that was a new thing. 1828 01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: And I'm from the church. I just said I didn't 1829 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,880 Speaker 1: never want nobody's things ship with sweet, so I kind 1830 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 1: of had some feel like I feel like you were 1831 01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:56,760 Speaker 1: just saying I'm from the church. I'm saying nothing. It's 1832 01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:10,000 Speaker 1: like knock knock stamp. I don't like. I don't really 1833 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:11,920 Speaker 1: like the fact that people think that way with me 1834 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:19,760 Speaker 1: because I'm such as I'm saying the fact that I'm 1835 01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 1: just cool. I really people help people like, oh, shoot, 1836 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:24,680 Speaker 1: let me connect you. I don't want to know. I 1837 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be your nothing to pop be like, 1838 01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,640 Speaker 1: why don't you man? I'm know I would connect you 1839 01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,960 Speaker 1: with them. I know nothing from it. I don't want that. 1840 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,519 Speaker 1: I just, you know, let me help you out in 1841 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,840 Speaker 1: whatever way I can. But I'm not that person. You 1842 01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got kids worried out about 1843 01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 1: my letting yours. He's on an artism spectrum, so my 1844 01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,080 Speaker 1: energy has to go into a more more productive place 1845 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 1: and more progressive place, so um, you know. But then 1846 01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I ain't kind of mat that they know, 1847 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:55,760 Speaker 1: don't fuck me. That ship is not sweet either though, 1848 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,719 Speaker 1: And I will call my motherfucking cousins from a leven 1849 01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 1: grom An avenue and I would want my names from 1850 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:07,560 Speaker 1: Brooklyn and will be like, no, I know it's you. 1851 01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:19,840 Speaker 1: I didn't say that with like, we're not wepping. We 1852 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,840 Speaker 1: don't be got no weapons, we don't we got no best. 1853 01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,559 Speaker 1: So so le's have another one. I'm gona have another one. 1854 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:35,320 Speaker 1: Children were talking about another one. Another shot of Tiger 1855 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:42,560 Speaker 1: you gouts a ridiculous line, I'm a I gotta I 1856 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,080 Speaker 1: gotta go Pepe. Let me go first, the fastest of 1857 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:53,599 Speaker 1: the fast, mad fast. Oh my god, this is mother 1858 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:58,040 Speaker 1: come out with leap hang out. No me, I'm going 1859 01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,720 Speaker 1: to sleep with Leaves. No, I'm is something. I'm going 1860 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,720 Speaker 1: to hang out with le like right there. I'm going 1861 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 1: right there and ship with league r. Come on, leg 1862 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,599 Speaker 1: we haven't see your version of the show. We got it. Yeah, 1863 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 1: we scorn just now the talk. I'm good water. Did 1864 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 1: you feel you're honestly, this is the most tiger bone 1865 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,519 Speaker 1: that we've drank in one episode. This is a new model. Yeah, 1866 01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 1: I promise you first this mante this with this many people. 1867 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:46,160 Speaker 1: There's many people like Brandon. No, he had us slod 1868 01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 1: on that type. Brandon was on the tyger bone. That's 1869 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,920 Speaker 1: my first job. I don't even know where the first 1870 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 1: term there was the first shot out of talk about 1871 01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,479 Speaker 1: at Night. Yo, you don't remember. Whispering doesn't work. No, 1872 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,360 Speaker 1: we got the right here, but I don't know what 1873 01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,759 Speaker 1: it was. You don't remember we was up there with Chico. 1874 01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:11,040 Speaker 1: It was me you Chico Bang wasn't around. It might 1875 01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,519 Speaker 1: have even been somebody from Jersey with us, like Marky 1876 01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,560 Speaker 1: Branson had us and you said, red Man put you 1877 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,080 Speaker 1: onto the spot. Brad put me on the Branson and 1878 01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 1: I introduced Branson the Big. I introduced Big Jacob with 1879 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,360 Speaker 1: Juela for the first time. I put five dollars down 1880 01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:33,880 Speaker 1: on the wedding ring man with cheegos, you know, Manny 1881 01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,280 Speaker 1: that that's the biggest gets joy from first. And then 1882 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,400 Speaker 1: then Jacob to Julia was like, you know he took 1883 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,439 Speaker 1: to see if Judy you know Tito's tricks. Okay, Tito 1884 01:52:51,600 --> 01:53:00,040 Speaker 1: was ye green letters, you walk in it like I 1885 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,800 Speaker 1: sweep like a few years ago right now, Yeah, to 1886 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:08,080 Speaker 1: go passed away like yeah, yeah, you got your back, 1887 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,840 Speaker 1: so hold on, hold on, hold on, Tito passed away. Yeah, yeah, 1888 01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,439 Speaker 1: a three years that's fight Biggs to with Tito too, 1889 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:21,280 Speaker 1: that's why. And then the chips that Manni's man so 1890 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:28,439 Speaker 1: before Jacob, right yo, that was their hell. You know 1891 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,439 Speaker 1: he had the jewels like that's who you used to 1892 01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 1: go see first. That was be your man right there. 1893 01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:45,040 Speaker 1: Very looks, oh very, I didn't even see that. Nothing. 1894 01:53:45,640 --> 01:54:07,080 Speaker 1: Nothing like a lot of ways. Four joint got more 1895 01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:15,360 Speaker 1: joints to the little bit horn. It's not a little 1896 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 1: bit a little bit okay, okay, okay, anyone wants it's 1897 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,400 Speaker 1: just in case you got no more just in kicks. 1898 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,080 Speaker 1: So this is Drake Champs and Drink Champs. We celebrate 1899 01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:38,840 Speaker 1: our legends, we celebrate our people who's been here. And 1900 01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just because there is no other platform, other format, 1901 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 1: any other thing that's like this, because these people they 1902 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:58,240 Speaker 1: want to write us all every time we get we 1903 01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:02,120 Speaker 1: have a little bit of years. Why do you think 1904 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,400 Speaker 1: that's only an all culture? Why is that only an 1905 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,040 Speaker 1: all culture? Is that? Is that a hip hop thing? 1906 01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 1: Is it a black and Latin? Because she will say 1907 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,800 Speaker 1: that that's documented, that is it is only a hip 1908 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 1: hop is documented and hip hop after you have ten years, 1909 01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,120 Speaker 1: you are o G and o G is another world. 1910 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm saying now they say that is 1911 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:34,400 Speaker 1: a little world of calling your old dagger nogga respect 1912 01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 1: you because it record said something like that, call you 1913 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,560 Speaker 1: o G. But they don't really mean it. They just 1914 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:48,600 Speaker 1: calling you. Oh, you don't really see it. Yeah, that's 1915 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,680 Speaker 1: fact and that's real ship like because we look at 1916 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:54,600 Speaker 1: it like it's respect, but didn't see I expect you 1917 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:59,360 Speaker 1: because you're still right here, You're still rocking, You're still yeah, 1918 01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,160 Speaker 1: I get that. It's like, no, when people say you 1919 01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,000 Speaker 1: a legend or your things like that. That's kind of 1920 01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:10,240 Speaker 1: niggas always sending you farewell, like every saying no, I 1921 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 1: don't see degree know a certain word you're using different 1922 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:19,400 Speaker 1: undersity doesn't mean fail well, no, it doesn't mean people 1923 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 1: use the way people use you. Gonna fun with you, 1924 01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 1: you legendary. It's two different motherfucking places said, I think 1925 01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:33,920 Speaker 1: about the people use it, this society, you know, having 1926 01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:35,840 Speaker 1: what you do. So he's like, you know, you're calling 1927 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,680 Speaker 1: your old g legend at the same time to get 1928 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 1: that record. You come on, how do you because you're 1929 01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,560 Speaker 1: a legend. You know, it's kind of like means the 1930 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 1: same anything. I don't look at it. It's definitely of 1931 01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. That's what means you have to have 1932 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:55,600 Speaker 1: established a legas well. It's a good thing, fucking you 1933 01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That means somebody paid attention to 1934 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,960 Speaker 1: certain steps like that because in kind of thing, nigga, Yeah, yeah, 1935 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 1: you're so hard for a certain amount of time. Yeah, yeah, 1936 01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:07,960 Speaker 1: that's when you and g because that's what that's supposed 1937 01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:12,600 Speaker 1: to suggest. You can from a certain time here. You 1938 01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:16,280 Speaker 1: may have a legacy of doing something doing something up. 1939 01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,080 Speaker 1: But sad as the way people say it that. I 1940 01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,520 Speaker 1: think that's what the kids saying to that in the streets. 1941 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,160 Speaker 1: He told right now, I don't think that of me. 1942 01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,600 Speaker 1: What I'm saying I was know about. I understand when 1943 01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,640 Speaker 1: they they they bigging me up, and I understand when 1944 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,440 Speaker 1: they come it's like that's what they know. Niggers like 1945 01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:43,880 Speaker 1: like saying you're doing more time to sing? Yeah, saying nigger, 1946 01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,280 Speaker 1: you ain't coming out here. You know you're here for 1947 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 1: this five minutes. Enough cool, you're gonna get the funk 1948 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,240 Speaker 1: about Cool with that, but that's not gonna take that. 1949 01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:55,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm takigg like yeah, like I said, like, yeah, 1950 01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:59,360 Speaker 1: my nigga, you had jews, You're good. Keep me nobody 1951 01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 1: you knew. Ship sunk with you. I'm not expecting about 1952 01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,400 Speaker 1: day made me some say with me with me something 1953 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:12,680 Speaker 1: just don't like that. What you know what legend legend. 1954 01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm seeing people from legend be tweaking back and legend 1955 01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,120 Speaker 1: and you know because I was one of those, Like now, 1956 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:20,760 Speaker 1: I didn't put in that work for that, but I 1957 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,320 Speaker 1: get what people saying. I mean like they're just trying 1958 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 1: to give you props. But to me, I could be like, no, 1959 01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,880 Speaker 1: I think you're saying I'm done. What you gotta think about? Okay, 1960 01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,880 Speaker 1: back to on the on the sidell what you said 1961 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,240 Speaker 1: about how fast if moves. Now for them to say 1962 01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,720 Speaker 1: legend that ship for their moves, and yeah, that's what 1963 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:41,800 Speaker 1: you see. That's why, that's why they say some classic 1964 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 1: albums is two days right, come no ship, come out 1965 01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:52,440 Speaker 1: Friday and say it's a classic by Sunday. I think 1966 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,040 Speaker 1: album was a classic, but when did it cleared the 1967 01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:01,520 Speaker 1: classic It was not even right like they said Friday's 1968 01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 1: album came out and they said it's a classic by Sunday, 1969 01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:08,720 Speaker 1: and I said, maybe Sunday of two more years. That's 1970 01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:13,160 Speaker 1: what I can't do it love and I love that album, 1971 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,960 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that the fact that Timeline and 1972 01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,920 Speaker 1: they did that, like Reverdy died wasn't cleared a classif 1973 01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 1: the year two years later, Ill Mattock shook ones if 1974 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 1: Amos marb album, you know snoop all the times making 1975 01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:32,520 Speaker 1: a classic classic Now you can't judge, can't come on 1976 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,600 Speaker 1: the day, no, you know Wednesday, it's a class run 1977 01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:42,800 Speaker 1: like they run fast, like they did attention to people 1978 01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:44,280 Speaker 1: at the end of that year. So what they say, 1979 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,480 Speaker 1: you kept my attention for more than it's like it's 1980 01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:50,120 Speaker 1: to be. They're forced to work a lot. Like we 1981 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,880 Speaker 1: used to put out classics like once that six months 1982 01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:55,440 Speaker 1: a year, you know, and made you appreciated artist. You 1983 01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 1: didn't flood them. Now you have to just like gotta 1984 01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:00,680 Speaker 1: do free freest down just for Instagram. That is just 1985 02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:03,040 Speaker 1: like you know, you you you compete, you have to 1986 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:09,000 Speaker 1: constantly and it's just different Master. It's more access so 1987 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 1: it's like whereas it's easier to get your ship heard 1988 02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,320 Speaker 1: or whether it becomes super popular or not as easy 1989 02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:17,640 Speaker 1: as so much ship out there, but it's so much 1990 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,760 Speaker 1: more bullshit too. It's like more crowded. So it's like, yea, 1991 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:23,720 Speaker 1: so how am I such a punt? The ship that's 1992 02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,920 Speaker 1: really hot? So what you do? You know what you like? 1993 02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:30,880 Speaker 1: More independent or major? I don't know because I really 1994 02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean you independence, I don't. I mean my last 1995 02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm mcking and I I did with Rhino Records, which 1996 02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:48,480 Speaker 1: is a subsidiary of Universal. Okay, it's under Universital Atlantic, 1997 02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:53,240 Speaker 1: but it's still um. They are who acquired the Masters 1998 02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,840 Speaker 1: from bad Boy, you know, Puff sold the Masters. He's 1999 02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,920 Speaker 1: sold them to Atlantic, so that's they do the box set. Okay, 2000 02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:07,640 Speaker 1: they owe my ship too good? Feeling so good? I go, yeah, 2001 02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:25,960 Speaker 1: taking I gotta do. You got to connect. But uh, 2002 02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,240 Speaker 1: you know that was a situation of them acquiring the masses? 2003 02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:30,960 Speaker 1: What the fun was the what the point I was 2004 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 1: making the first point what you said versus major? But 2005 02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I gotta mean show with the game. You know what's 2006 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:45,680 Speaker 1: the crazy about you? You always gonna be a little bro, 2007 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, bro to be like whatever you're gonn always 2008 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,360 Speaker 1: be a little bro. Like that's what I'm doing. Just 2009 02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 1: you gotta be a little bro. I'm not gonna read. Okay, okay, 2010 02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:01,440 Speaker 1: we're doing rose and once I'm talking about you promised 2011 02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:13,280 Speaker 1: us one time. We don't have just yeah, yeah, this 2012 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:19,920 Speaker 1: is no, we're quitting. This is a term that he's 2013 02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:24,600 Speaker 1: not gonna say that. He's not gonna say that. I'm 2014 02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna say something. That shot and that drink, No, that's 2015 02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,800 Speaker 1: a drink because I know that's a shot coming how many? 2016 02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Because you know what people knowing more than anyone. So 2017 02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 1: why you're not worried about me? Are you funked up? 2018 02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,040 Speaker 1: My body? So I'm playing now you know what I'm 2019 02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:49,040 Speaker 1: cook Uh, Faith your queen and we want you to recognize. 2020 02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:50,800 Speaker 1: We want you to understand, We want you to know 2021 02:02:51,440 --> 02:03:01,120 Speaker 1: that you appreciate it over here. Yeah, it's because it's 2022 02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:06,200 Speaker 1: because again I want to reiterate this, our generation, our 2023 02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:10,280 Speaker 1: legacy are people. We forget to pick up our own people. 2024 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:14,360 Speaker 1: We were big up you know everything else. And you know, 2025 02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I just I just looked at ancestry dot com. And 2026 02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:21,080 Speaker 1: since um, you know, Wakanda came out, excuse me, since 2027 02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Black Panther came out, we all want to go, you know, 2028 02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,920 Speaker 1: research our fucking roots. Anybody want to be from a 2029 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:37,920 Speaker 1: CALMDA right now is what we gotta do. We gotta 2030 02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:41,160 Speaker 1: continue to pack each other up because to me, to me, 2031 02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:43,160 Speaker 1: it's not about a race. To me, it's not about 2032 02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:46,720 Speaker 1: being black, white, Latino or whatever. To me, it's about 2033 02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:51,680 Speaker 1: being hip hop. Sometimes hip hop is are nationality. Sometimes 2034 02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,480 Speaker 1: hip hop is a coach. If we all sit together 2035 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:58,640 Speaker 1: and we all love the same artists, that transition, that 2036 02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:04,000 Speaker 1: trans say and transcends, you know, love and general transcend 2037 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:08,320 Speaker 1: and love love of whatever, your love with someone's spirit, 2038 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:10,960 Speaker 1: your love of music, your love is when someone's personality, 2039 02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:16,120 Speaker 1: it's love period that transcends. Music plays into that. But 2040 02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:18,800 Speaker 1: that lets you know how much of music, you know, 2041 02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:21,320 Speaker 1: and the positive size of it is a part of love. 2042 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:24,160 Speaker 1: You feel me. I'm saying, it's just like all a 2043 02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,240 Speaker 1: lot of energy, and I'm not so deep as bitch. 2044 02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean not like that, no blaspheme. I 2045 02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,080 Speaker 1: love the Lord. I grew up in church, but it's 2046 02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,840 Speaker 1: not so much about the Bible specifically. I'm just like 2047 02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:36,480 Speaker 1: a I like the energy. I like to feel good. 2048 02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I like to make people feel I'm not a negative bitch, 2049 02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't want no problems. But 2050 02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:43,280 Speaker 1: don't sunk with me either, though. But I'm just saying, 2051 02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,120 Speaker 1: don't trying to play. You can suck with me and 2052 02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, I have a great day. You 2053 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:49,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I'm just saying, you know, 2054 02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I can't come out here. I'm like, where you win 2055 02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:11,120 Speaker 1: your crazy? Ya know? Okay? It was like, I love 2056 02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:19,440 Speaker 1: you're playing this. I was listening to mend for the Headlock. 2057 02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:25,600 Speaker 1: It's all right, they don't want it. We got one shot. 2058 02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:28,800 Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be one more. I'm not ship. 2059 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Let's coold him who even asked for the shot? Finished 2060 02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:43,400 Speaker 1: my story anyway, I'm not I'm scared the horn. This 2061 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:55,320 Speaker 1: this this horn works like Sonny's kids don't exist. I went, 2062 02:05:56,160 --> 02:06:00,480 Speaker 1: I went to a friend. I went to be honest. 2063 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:02,720 Speaker 1: My nig my nigga forty nine, How old are you? 2064 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Forty nine? That's my boy. He's been going to roast 2065 02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:16,920 Speaker 1: his nineteen he got, he got a side baby, and 2066 02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:21,520 Speaker 1: he just puts taking boat Cabins Fats ship. I'm just 2067 02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:28,840 Speaker 1: don't I'm tying you. Listen, man, you don't get a 2068 02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Cabins Fats when his side ship. I want to see you, 2069 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:43,040 Speaker 1: got ya, y'all. I'm not just your boy work. I'm 2070 02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna It's been a very slight shot and I'm my white. 2071 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:51,280 Speaker 1: I maintained that I balanced myself good to that I'm 2072 02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:54,440 Speaker 1: not really usually I'm not ready to say. I'm trying 2073 02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:56,000 Speaker 1: to get to that. Y'all need to nick at the 2074 02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,880 Speaker 1: moment for the gotty level, because I'm trying to get 2075 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:06,080 Speaker 1: to the gotty levels. My best interview you a little bit, 2076 02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:11,000 Speaker 1: a little bit bit. I got drink the last No, 2077 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm drink the last one. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna 2078 02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:20,120 Speaker 1: to you. I'm quite you, absolutely, queen. I love you. 2079 02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Fishy Heppy birthday her birthday just last birthday, shamming. I 2080 02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:32,520 Speaker 1: see you. Let's still a birthday. I'll be honest. Oh why, 2081 02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. You're stupid shows on jet. We got gifts, 2082 02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we do, got so we got gifts of 2083 02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:49,760 Speaker 1: let the tiger suttle. Yeah, I gotta let we got 2084 02:07:51,560 --> 02:08:00,360 Speaker 1: got drink chance somebody two shorts from last time. Actually 2085 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,600 Speaker 1: that's not that's that's an extra. I just threw that 2086 02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:15,360 Speaker 1: into you don't have shot for what though, I don't 2087 02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,360 Speaker 1: know what. I'm not taking any more shots to that. 2088 02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:23,280 Speaker 1: We did it because because she requested it. Big facts. 2089 02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I can see this. She sus me to death, but 2090 02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I see it's no way I'm assist. But I'm saying 2091 02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,240 Speaker 1: the wh I'm done. It's family right there. That's not 2092 02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be that. You know what I mean? You 2093 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,640 Speaker 1: know I look out for you all the time. You 2094 02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:50,960 Speaker 1: want me? Okay, okay, let me ask you a question, 2095 02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:57,000 Speaker 1: right me, moving case solo right now, just met okay, 2096 02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,520 Speaker 1: so let me ask you a question. It's my birthday. 2097 02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:01,680 Speaker 1: I want to I've just freedom. My son is with 2098 02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:15,880 Speaker 1: his dad for we funck everything. We're like we over 2099 02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,880 Speaker 1: the one like I'm down. Fuck it, I'm down. We 2100 02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:25,960 Speaker 1: rolled like two nas like we just unsolved. We're seeing 2101 02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,600 Speaker 1: a notorious movie. We're seeing through a two pat movie. 2102 02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:34,280 Speaker 1: We're seeing, Um, Johnny Depp even got the piece of this. 2103 02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:41,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy. When is the Seas Faith story? We were 2104 02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:44,760 Speaker 1: just talking about that My movie is actually it's not 2105 02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,600 Speaker 1: a feature film, but I am in a deal with 2106 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:56,240 Speaker 1: viacom and to do a picture based on what we 2107 02:09:56,320 --> 02:10:00,680 Speaker 1: were talking about the Pp on my book. Remember it's 2108 02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:03,360 Speaker 1: based on my book yeah, before you got the peep 2109 02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:07,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, it's coming out soon. But I'm just 2110 02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, I wasn't so sure about 2111 02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:13,520 Speaker 1: it for so long because I'm like, I'm not really 2112 02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:16,000 Speaker 1: pressed like that, you know, but because if it ain't, 2113 02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:20,040 Speaker 1: if they don't really be but yeah, but they ain't 2114 02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:23,200 Speaker 1: tell my story. They told whatever they told. My story 2115 02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:26,920 Speaker 1: is my fucking story. Nobody can't tell my story for me. 2116 02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:32,120 Speaker 1: But um, my part of my life and story has 2117 02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:37,920 Speaker 1: been depicted in other people's stories, some accurately, some not 2118 02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:41,480 Speaker 1: so accurately. But you know, it's I just was kind 2119 02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:43,440 Speaker 1: of toying with it. But I think it's gonna come 2120 02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,080 Speaker 1: out good. You know. I'm like very careful about stuff 2121 02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:47,680 Speaker 1: like that. If it ain't gonna be right, it ain't 2122 02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna be right. It's not like that ain't gonna make 2123 02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:51,720 Speaker 1: a difference in my life to do a movie that 2124 02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,120 Speaker 1: ain't really completely a true story, just to say I 2125 02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,720 Speaker 1: had a movie on TV. You know what I'm saying, Like, 2126 02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,160 Speaker 1: who the cares? If that's the case. I've done the 2127 02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:02,840 Speaker 1: reality show, you know, a long time ago, and you know, 2128 02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,160 Speaker 1: like I'm just certain things. I'm just like that don't 2129 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:08,280 Speaker 1: make sense for me, Like that ain't real ship, Like 2130 02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:10,880 Speaker 1: my real ship is actually right now, let's shot just 2131 02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:14,280 Speaker 1: like this is a little more closer to you know 2132 02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:22,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, God, God, damnit man, this real ship? Man? 2133 02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,080 Speaker 1: You know what, because you know why we get we 2134 02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:30,760 Speaker 1: get to hear the stories from sidelines to Herrod, you know, 2135 02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:35,520 Speaker 1: from you to to see you, you know, first of 2136 02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:41,160 Speaker 1: so beautiful, so coming back to life so put together. Um, 2137 02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:43,520 Speaker 1: we want to pick that up. We want to we 2138 02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:45,400 Speaker 1: want to salute that, We want to you know what 2139 02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, yeah, that's why I got that. But 2140 02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. So, um so really, really, so were 2141 02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you after all the things you've done in your life? Really, 2142 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:07,960 Speaker 1: what's next? Like, really, what do you want to do next, Like, um, well, 2143 02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:11,400 Speaker 1: music is always going to be a great part of 2144 02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:13,040 Speaker 1: my life. And like you was saying, you still love 2145 02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:15,320 Speaker 1: the game. It's not so much that I've never lost 2146 02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:19,520 Speaker 1: a love for creating great music, whether it's popular, whether 2147 02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:22,080 Speaker 1: niggas is really buying it, Like I really get off. 2148 02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I know I'm good at that ship. I go on 2149 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:27,760 Speaker 1: the booth and I'm the truth. I'm just saying. I mean, 2150 02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,840 Speaker 1: you might not hear it, like somebody's looks like I 2151 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:32,840 Speaker 1: never heard this song like Nigi. It was on my 2152 02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:35,680 Speaker 1: couple of independent projects. But you know it's like that's 2153 02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:38,520 Speaker 1: not why I do it. It's like I have a 2154 02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:41,560 Speaker 1: gift for that, but I've also been blessed to understand 2155 02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:44,960 Speaker 1: and use my acumen to do other things, Like you're 2156 02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,400 Speaker 1: doing this thing, you know what I'm saying, You extend 2157 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,440 Speaker 1: your life in other ways. Like I was a creator 2158 02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:52,200 Speaker 1: and executive producer of R and B Divas. You know 2159 02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:57,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that right that. You know, although after 2160 02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:02,360 Speaker 1: the first season they kind of shifted the creative spirit 2161 02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:04,560 Speaker 1: of it, but you know it was a not under 2162 02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:06,320 Speaker 1: my belt, you know what I'm saying in that lane, 2163 02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:09,200 Speaker 1: So you know I'm always pitching stuff in the in 2164 02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:12,480 Speaker 1: the TV world too, So you know, I'm just trying 2165 02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:14,960 Speaker 1: to like do the stuff that I can do that 2166 02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:17,320 Speaker 1: makes sense for me, you know what I'm saying, And 2167 02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,120 Speaker 1: that of course makes money, but the money has to 2168 02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:23,920 Speaker 1: make sense, so all money don't make sense. So I 2169 02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,560 Speaker 1: know you said that you and Kim patched it up 2170 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,920 Speaker 1: after Big God, but I didn't say that. What I 2171 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:35,160 Speaker 1: did say was any any ill feelings that I had 2172 02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,680 Speaker 1: to Kim or be that what the funk I'm gonna 2173 02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,000 Speaker 1: be mad at you for if he's dead. But um, 2174 02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:43,160 Speaker 1: not until I decided to do The King and Our 2175 02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:46,680 Speaker 1: album was I able to. Really, that's so crazy. I 2176 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:48,840 Speaker 1: just did an interview with Hollywood Unlocked. I don't know 2177 02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:51,760 Speaker 1: if that's okay to mention that on him. Okay, But 2178 02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:57,480 Speaker 1: I did an interview up that they were talking about 2179 02:13:57,560 --> 02:13:59,920 Speaker 1: the Backboys. I'm getting every the kid stop won't sad, 2180 02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:01,480 Speaker 1: and they was like, you know, we see how puff 2181 02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:03,080 Speaker 1: watch you all back together, And I was like, hold on, 2182 02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:05,640 Speaker 1: let's be clear. You know what I'm saying, Like no, 2183 02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:08,720 Speaker 1: me and Sees was actually sitting on the speaker's in 2184 02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:11,880 Speaker 1: rehearsal for the Bad Boy Tour. And I had already 2185 02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:13,920 Speaker 1: said I want him on this me and big album 2186 02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:17,360 Speaker 1: that I'm doing, you know, and that was my first 2187 02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I had probably reached out to whoever her manager, and 2188 02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 1: maybe even since the track. I don't even know if 2189 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:24,600 Speaker 1: I had to track it, but I probably reached out 2190 02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and said I want her on this album and she 2191 02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:28,760 Speaker 1: said yeah, through them, but this is my first time 2192 02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:31,040 Speaker 1: seeing her, and he was like, Yo, they're o him 2193 02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,600 Speaker 1: right there. You know. It was really on the humbug. 2194 02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, shoot, let me go talk to 2195 02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:39,120 Speaker 1: but the cameras is everywhere, so we're catching everything. Meanwhile, 2196 02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:41,800 Speaker 1: the camera ship is some other ship. Everybody ain't know 2197 02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:48,400 Speaker 1: one like they feel the documentary anyway. But somebody thought 2198 02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:51,160 Speaker 1: that Puff brought me and Kim together, and I was like, no, no, 2199 02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:53,840 Speaker 1: shade to Puff and that was a good depiction of it. 2200 02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:57,800 Speaker 1: But no, I already had reached out to Kim because 2201 02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is an important album. If the nigger 2202 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,160 Speaker 1: was alive, we definitely did an album together. Not have 2203 02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,920 Speaker 1: definitely been like Nick and this would be flies we 2204 02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether he was working on who the funk ever? 2205 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,600 Speaker 1: Like if the bitches dope up saying you know what 2206 02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like, so it just made sense to me, 2207 02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:16,880 Speaker 1: especially with that song. We both loved him so but 2208 02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:20,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a tough thing to say you do that, 2209 02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:21,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It was more so me 2210 02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:24,920 Speaker 1: and she sitting on the speaker. I'm like yo, He's 2211 02:15:24,920 --> 02:15:27,760 Speaker 1: like yo, came. I'm like where He's like she right there. 2212 02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, let me go talk to it. 2213 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,560 Speaker 1: So the camera saw that, so they put it, you know, 2214 02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,320 Speaker 1: not saying they made it up and said that in 2215 02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:37,960 Speaker 1: the documented but people took it like that was the 2216 02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:41,320 Speaker 1: moment that, you know, but it wasn't like that. It 2217 02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:44,240 Speaker 1: wasn't more so, that's just the ship that I'm on, 2218 02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:47,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not really tripping like that. Goddamn, 2219 02:15:51,920 --> 02:16:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to work. It's like, right now, that's 2220 02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:19,160 Speaker 1: what I've got. Access's coming, She's coming out, alright. I'm sorry, 2221 02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't know, I don't don't care. She's 2222 02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:28,800 Speaker 1: coming your ass access before we leave. Okay, what happened? 2223 02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,039 Speaker 1: Because it's like a big question. You gott to cover 2224 02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:39,760 Speaker 1: his because it's a big way. Let me, I'm covering mind, 2225 02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:44,600 Speaker 1: it's a big question to drink. What the fuck the 2226 02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:51,720 Speaker 1: big eat ass. Yeah, I get that depends on who. 2227 02:16:54,320 --> 02:17:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. He ain't mine your time. I'm bad 2228 02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:29,360 Speaker 1: shem sificating way, that was a pretty question. You look, 2229 02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:46,800 Speaker 1: I listen, man make very bigger real horn, right, I'm 2230 02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:54,440 Speaker 1: around Jim out too short. It's good. That's got to 2231 02:17:54,520 --> 02:18:06,960 Speaker 1: do it, Jim. I'm I'm just saying I'm season but 2232 02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:12,960 Speaker 1: now but now de rock Also, um, I see a 2233 02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:19,520 Speaker 1: little and he said. He expressed the fact that he 2234 02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:23,199 Speaker 1: didn't want people to celebrate March knife. He wanted people 2235 02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:29,080 Speaker 1: to celebrate BIG's birthday. What days, So he expressed that 2236 02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:33,000 Speaker 1: he said March ninth. He really didn't like people selling 2237 02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:36,199 Speaker 1: people do that. People feel like, let me say something, okay, 2238 02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:38,920 Speaker 1: because in the movie when you keep referring to the movie, 2239 02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:41,880 Speaker 1: you know that scene where and we saw it in 2240 02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:45,160 Speaker 1: the press when people saw the people celebrating. But to 2241 02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:48,480 Speaker 1: understand like how goold that was and on everything, like 2242 02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:51,360 Speaker 1: when you see Angelo basket and it was like when 2243 02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:54,279 Speaker 1: we rolled from mind You, it wasn't just in bookly 2244 02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:58,840 Speaker 1: we wrote from Frankie Campbell in the city do whatever area? 2245 02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:03,360 Speaker 1: What uh JFK, what is that east side thing? That? 2246 02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:04,920 Speaker 1: What's that ship? On the East Side. Is that the 2247 02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:08,640 Speaker 1: J afterr JFK after your you know what I'm talking about. 2248 02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:12,320 Speaker 1: And it was Nigga's in every building was a project, 2249 02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:15,800 Speaker 1: whether it was an office building. They was in every window, 2250 02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,320 Speaker 1: like and look, you saw my answered the basket, Like 2251 02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I was in the car with Mrs Wallace. She really 2252 02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:26,879 Speaker 1: was sitting there. That's when she realized, I saw it myself. 2253 02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:29,120 Speaker 1: I was in the car with her, and I was 2254 02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:33,320 Speaker 1: so happy that in that sad moment see her realize 2255 02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:37,520 Speaker 1: how people fused with her son, like it was crazy. 2256 02:19:38,600 --> 02:19:41,560 Speaker 1: That ship was crazy. She you know, she don't know 2257 02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:44,240 Speaker 1: that she was at that time. She didn't realize that 2258 02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:48,920 Speaker 1: that was like, you know, I was in the car, 2259 02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:52,160 Speaker 1: I saw her life. Oh my god, you know we're good, 2260 02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Miss Wallace. She oh my god. Then you really loved 2261 02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:02,640 Speaker 1: like was hip hop, Like you know, she had no 2262 02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:05,720 Speaker 1: idea of just like how big he was to that 2263 02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:08,520 Speaker 1: extent because that just wants in her life. You know, 2264 02:20:09,320 --> 02:20:11,640 Speaker 1: she don't know nothing about the upbringing of what we 2265 02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:14,720 Speaker 1: came from though, so she was very oblivious to like 2266 02:20:14,879 --> 02:20:17,240 Speaker 1: she never knew he hustled, Like you know that scene 2267 02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:22,520 Speaker 1: in the movie where she was was baking soda and 2268 02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:29,080 Speaker 1: that was that's like, that's that really, she not knowing 2269 02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:31,480 Speaker 1: that was work. He came in and piste off, like, 2270 02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:35,120 Speaker 1: my mom just flushed down that's my week. You know, 2271 02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:38,240 Speaker 1: she just flushed down my work. And she didn't even 2272 02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:41,200 Speaker 1: know that. Like that's just how oblivious she was to 2273 02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,920 Speaker 1: that lifestyle of it. To her, that was just like 2274 02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:46,640 Speaker 1: her Chris, because he did all the ship she wanted 2275 02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:48,720 Speaker 1: her to do. He was smart, even schooling and all that, 2276 02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,440 Speaker 1: but you know, he did all a lot of extra ship. 2277 02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:54,560 Speaker 1: And to this day she she don't know about that ship, 2278 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:59,640 Speaker 1: but she does now, right, But like I saw it, 2279 02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:03,640 Speaker 1: so was like so crazy. That was just a great feliniacy. 2280 02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:06,840 Speaker 1: So so um and this is probably the last question. 2281 02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too emotional with you. What 2282 02:21:08,840 --> 02:21:11,800 Speaker 1: you guys, and you get you guys gave me wait, wait, 2283 02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:21,000 Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted. But um, one thing that people 2284 02:21:21,040 --> 02:21:23,960 Speaker 1: ask me all the time is, you know, I was 2285 02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:28,440 Speaker 1: very close to Punt. Pun was my guy. God. People 2286 02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:31,640 Speaker 1: always asked me, they said, yo, do you realize how 2287 02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:37,520 Speaker 1: special Punt was from Pun was here? And almost eight 2288 02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:41,440 Speaker 1: times out of ten I said yeah, mm hmm, because 2289 02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:44,440 Speaker 1: I actually did did did I think he was a 2290 02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:52,480 Speaker 1: special as the people. Uh no, I'm sorry. But when 2291 02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:56,560 Speaker 1: he was alive, I knew who he was. Proba was 2292 02:21:56,600 --> 02:21:59,840 Speaker 1: special to me just as a listener and a creative person. 2293 02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:03,120 Speaker 1: So and you had a personal relationship. So I know that. 2294 02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:07,120 Speaker 1: But back to your question about was that related to 2295 02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:10,440 Speaker 1: beg But I know he was special. I knew he 2296 02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,880 Speaker 1: was special just because of the his spirit and how 2297 02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,720 Speaker 1: we connected. It wasn't so yeah, Okay, you know I 2298 02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:30,720 Speaker 1: ain't gonna not the first time we actually fucked. Okay, no, no, 2299 02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:39,320 Speaker 1: you want no, no, no, But I'm saying just that word. 2300 02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:43,880 Speaker 1: The first time we actually, you know, conflated things. I 2301 02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:46,480 Speaker 1: guess I didn't consate because that's like more of a 2302 02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:52,920 Speaker 1: serious marriage. But over it was this bad boy party 2303 02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:54,920 Speaker 1: on Father's Day. That's how I always come back when 2304 02:22:54,959 --> 02:22:56,680 Speaker 1: people say we got married the seven days, No, the 2305 02:22:56,720 --> 02:22:59,320 Speaker 1: funk we did. We met like at this photo shoot, 2306 02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:02,720 Speaker 1: which was like after Mother's Day, which was like May. 2307 02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:07,520 Speaker 1: It might have been even after China's first birthday, which 2308 02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:09,920 Speaker 1: was April. That's how I know. And then he saw 2309 02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:12,200 Speaker 1: my pictures at the photo shoot and he said, you're 2310 02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:14,119 Speaker 1: coming to the post party, and he had a Father's 2311 02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:17,680 Speaker 1: Day party, which is in June. Right, So that's how 2312 02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I know it was cold coming up to say. I'm saying, 2313 02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure you would. That's how I count on my ship. 2314 02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Like China isnt April Father's Day, he isn't made June. 2315 02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:36,320 Speaker 1: So he was looking at my pictures. But nonetheless, what 2316 02:23:36,440 --> 02:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the fund was that? Oh we had that party, he said, 2317 02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:45,240 Speaker 1: And after Big performed, I was in the nord. Everybody's like, Big, 2318 02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:47,400 Speaker 1: why you going? He was like, well he and he 2319 02:23:47,480 --> 02:23:49,200 Speaker 1: grabbed my hand and he went on with me that 2320 02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:52,040 Speaker 1: night and I sucked the ship out of him and 2321 02:23:52,280 --> 02:24:06,000 Speaker 1: we got Larry. But four months lefter you got that, right, 2322 02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:17,440 Speaker 1: that's it. Four week you see, I's gonna tell that 2323 02:24:18,760 --> 02:24:25,280 Speaker 1: the time. You can't sit here too. This is a 2324 02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:32,960 Speaker 1: very dangerous team place anything. Yeah, I swear the guard 2325 02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:39,800 Speaker 1: at legend. I feel like I'll be like, how fine? 2326 02:24:39,800 --> 02:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I talking to the closest in my life. So like 2327 02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting here, like it's so they start say it's 2328 02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:51,040 Speaker 1: hibout Derby, we gonna wake up to Bargo to morning 2329 02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:59,840 Speaker 1: when this sh come out. This is just get time. 2330 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:02,920 Speaker 1: Let me add something to it. Do He sucked the 2331 02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:15,600 Speaker 1: shot out of me too, because you know I'm about 2332 02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:23,280 Speaker 1: to gather. Let me that was good. If Big would 2333 02:25:23,320 --> 02:25:27,000 Speaker 1: be here right now with position, will you be a 2334 02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:30,840 Speaker 1: hip hop if you're in a ship, Because Big was 2335 02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:33,800 Speaker 1: cool like that, like you know, you know, B I 2336 02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:37,000 Speaker 1: believe you know y'all. You know he didn't have no 2337 02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:39,160 Speaker 1: preference man money. He didn't give a funk out you sound. 2338 02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:40,800 Speaker 1: He was dope. He was dope. It's not like you 2339 02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:45,360 Speaker 1: street niggas, real niggas. You're here though, even with you, 2340 02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I seeing he he was go bigger do that, you know, 2341 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:53,080 Speaker 1: like he was with a chance to wrapp in Chicago, 2342 02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:54,960 Speaker 1: right he would, Yeah, he was just he was. He 2343 02:25:55,040 --> 02:26:00,480 Speaker 1: was a hip hop that with him, Yeah, fun with him. 2344 02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:02,400 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, my nigga was something. It might 2345 02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:05,240 Speaker 1: not be his way for music, but B and I 2346 02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:07,680 Speaker 1: funk with him, come on with the smoke like he 2347 02:26:07,879 --> 02:26:10,080 Speaker 1: was that. That's why we like that. That's why I'm 2348 02:26:10,160 --> 02:26:11,360 Speaker 1: like that, you know. I mean, I like that. I 2349 02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,920 Speaker 1: embraced everybody Monday. You know, if I vibe to it, 2350 02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:16,280 Speaker 1: to it the music, I might not like. I might 2351 02:26:16,480 --> 02:26:18,400 Speaker 1: like you though I remember that it was cool. It 2352 02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:21,080 Speaker 1: was you don't be tripping these cool he smooth you know, 2353 02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:23,520 Speaker 1: it's because that's that's how we came up, you know 2354 02:26:23,560 --> 02:26:25,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just that that's the that's the vibe, 2355 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we used to see niggas and 2356 02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:29,480 Speaker 1: you know we just rapp us. But I was fans 2357 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:31,120 Speaker 1: of niggas too, you know what I mean. We see 2358 02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,560 Speaker 1: niggas like him, and then it's something I'm like, that's no. 2359 02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,440 Speaker 1: You can see all you know this because these niggs 2360 02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:38,240 Speaker 1: that look like you, they come from where I come from. 2361 02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:39,960 Speaker 1: I can recognize the kicks from when I see him 2362 02:26:39,959 --> 02:26:41,680 Speaker 1: like a nigga from where we from, you know what 2363 02:26:41,680 --> 02:26:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's how we that's how we vibe. 2364 02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:46,240 Speaker 1: And look at this ship, this ship the last twenty 2365 02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:48,800 Speaker 1: years strong, you know what I mean, like the new generation. 2366 02:26:48,920 --> 02:26:51,280 Speaker 1: You're questioning them from three years on. Damn, Like you 2367 02:26:51,320 --> 02:26:54,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'll tell you the um um 2368 02:26:56,640 --> 02:27:04,960 Speaker 1: just different, crazy ship. UM. For me was to see 2369 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:10,280 Speaker 1: the test of time and to see that years later, 2370 02:27:11,959 --> 02:27:17,080 Speaker 1: like you know, to see how important Big is and 2371 02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:20,480 Speaker 1: to see like these young kids who who you know, 2372 02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:25,640 Speaker 1: Big Big been going almost twenty years and and they 2373 02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:29,119 Speaker 1: don't you know, but I mean, you know, these these 2374 02:27:29,240 --> 02:27:31,600 Speaker 1: young kids they don't salute them and to see the 2375 02:27:31,720 --> 02:27:37,120 Speaker 1: world just jump on them. Like I love when like 2376 02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:43,280 Speaker 1: a artists say, oh, well big is overrating and it's like, yeah, 2377 02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:48,520 Speaker 1: a little nigga, you were not there. You're overrated. Now 2378 02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:58,920 Speaker 1: you're not even so that that ship bothers your lifeline. 2379 02:27:59,560 --> 02:28:02,360 Speaker 1: I guess different, nigga. We you know, we could think 2380 02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:05,640 Speaker 1: we want to think about this, but we you know, 2381 02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:08,160 Speaker 1: it's different. Like we just watched the d the Baker 2382 02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:10,000 Speaker 1: the other day. That's what I was about to say, 2383 02:28:11,560 --> 02:28:14,600 Speaker 1: my dude, Like I watched the whole crowd like just 2384 02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:17,880 Speaker 1: react to her records like so different, Like certain records 2385 02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:19,200 Speaker 1: came on and you see people get out of these 2386 02:28:19,240 --> 02:28:22,480 Speaker 1: seats and I'm just like, damn old is she Like 2387 02:28:22,879 --> 02:28:27,720 Speaker 1: she kept saying like flooded, but I'm like, and you 2388 02:28:27,800 --> 02:28:30,240 Speaker 1: just don't. She was just like putting the mic out 2389 02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:36,480 Speaker 1: just like the same, like that's the whole song. And 2390 02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:39,720 Speaker 1: she started over saying how long this new generation that 2391 02:28:40,320 --> 02:28:45,320 Speaker 1: like like old people gonna be in there like a 2392 02:28:45,400 --> 02:29:03,959 Speaker 1: long time ago? Why you you you know what I'm 2393 02:29:03,959 --> 02:29:11,400 Speaker 1: trumping you got explaining, Yeah, that's that's rough. Let me 2394 02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:14,560 Speaker 1: just say something. You know, it's rough. It's rough. Come 2395 02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:19,920 Speaker 1: on of my life. Let me just tell you something. 2396 02:29:19,959 --> 02:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Six years of my life, six years straight, from October 2397 02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:31,520 Speaker 1: to March. I had to be in Europe. Right, most 2398 02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:38,080 Speaker 1: people say, you're you fucking idiot. Europe is fantastic, right, 2399 02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:44,040 Speaker 1: will get that double money. But when you're forced to 2400 02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:47,640 Speaker 1: be there, you don't want to be there. So you 2401 02:29:47,720 --> 02:29:51,560 Speaker 1: gotta be with with in France for Pepper the pew, 2402 02:29:53,400 --> 02:29:59,200 Speaker 1: it's very rough. Listening is smoking, cracking the elevator. He's saying, 2403 02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:12,039 Speaker 1: crack ship you go, My god, damnit? He who listen 2404 02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:16,640 Speaker 1: when you don't want to be somewhere, torture you? You 2405 02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you you. Let's let's name a place in your your life. Right, 2406 02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:27,080 Speaker 1: let's say the Hampton's fantastic place. You know a white 2407 02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:31,480 Speaker 1: guy there named Fred. Right, let's right, Fred is fantastic. Right. 2408 02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:34,960 Speaker 1: Fred is a great guy. Fred is a great guy. 2409 02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:40,880 Speaker 1: He likes by it works before the fourth He's a 2410 02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:45,320 Speaker 1: good Fred is the guy. But now now you don't 2411 02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,640 Speaker 1: want to be with Fred. You want to be home, 2412 02:30:49,879 --> 02:30:52,880 Speaker 1: You really want to be home. But now Fred is 2413 02:30:53,000 --> 02:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the most, He's the most. Would you like this? I 2414 02:30:57,400 --> 02:31:02,280 Speaker 1: got this and you love Fred? But Fred, I want 2415 02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:06,040 Speaker 1: to go home Fred is the most annoying nig in 2416 02:31:06,120 --> 02:31:09,920 Speaker 1: the world because you have to be there to pay 2417 02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:14,080 Speaker 1: your bills. So a lot of people don't understand that's torture. 2418 02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Like my wife. My wife taught me Paris and I 2419 02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:19,600 Speaker 1: used to go to Paris and like, what the funk 2420 02:31:19,680 --> 02:31:23,160 Speaker 1: am I here for? I don't want to be by 2421 02:31:23,400 --> 02:31:28,880 Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower? What is the Eiffel Tower? That ship is 2422 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:34,280 Speaker 1: all I don't even know who doesn't make sense to 2423 02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:37,280 Speaker 1: a nigga. I just want bread. But then my wife 2424 02:31:37,400 --> 02:31:41,120 Speaker 1: she comes out there, She's like, look Theiffel Tower. I'm like, 2425 02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:48,240 Speaker 1: yeahn be honest. She taught me culture. But other than that, 2426 02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:52,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't that. That ship was like corny to us. 2427 02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I'm going to the beach, and before 2428 02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:57,280 Speaker 1: you you're going going to the beach, funk out didn't 2429 02:31:58,560 --> 02:32:01,200 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. The block Let's rip club was trashed 2430 02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:03,000 Speaker 1: to us. In New York. We didn't do if you 2431 02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:06,880 Speaker 1: went to the strip club, you strip clubs, And we 2432 02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:08,880 Speaker 1: didn't have having the New York in the day. No, no, 2433 02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:11,680 Speaker 1: we didn't have nothing. We didn't have that. Imagine Big 2434 02:32:11,959 --> 02:32:14,240 Speaker 1: j and Pup has strip clubs back in the day 2435 02:32:15,320 --> 02:32:21,840 Speaker 1: yet about that. You magine the nineties were strip clubs. 2436 02:32:21,879 --> 02:32:23,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't. You had to go to Miami like you 2437 02:32:23,720 --> 02:32:31,640 Speaker 1: had stub Culturemaic City like those ships. Right now, show girls, 2438 02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:34,800 Speaker 1: we just patly get a strip clu. Let me say something. 2439 02:32:34,840 --> 02:32:36,880 Speaker 1: He took me to your strip club. It's called show girls. 2440 02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:40,120 Speaker 1: I've never seen so much bullet holes, like so many 2441 02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:45,640 Speaker 1: bullet holes. Bullet holes they didn't Yeah, they got the 2442 02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:49,880 Speaker 1: bitches got shot and Sunny d walked in there. He 2443 02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:57,680 Speaker 1: spent eighty dollars and he was the man. This sunny 2444 02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:01,959 Speaker 1: think that's the sunny thing. He but four models eight hours. 2445 02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:07,400 Speaker 1: I said, what the funk? Where are we at? Hangout? 2446 02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:17,840 Speaker 1: Sputt like that and be cool, man yourself food two 2447 02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:21,800 Speaker 1: bullet in it, I can have it. It's cool ticket 2448 02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's write me, adopt me. It's called n 2449 02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:29,200 Speaker 1: let it or not there you just got. It's like 2450 02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:38,080 Speaker 1: the kindle hood. Do you think you're not gonna get shot? 2451 02:33:38,160 --> 02:33:40,880 Speaker 1: But listen, you get stabbed and then the shot, but 2452 02:33:41,080 --> 02:33:43,840 Speaker 1: it coming later. I don't think a stab you when 2453 02:33:43,879 --> 02:33:46,960 Speaker 1: it's then there's as a Cuban nigger that comes last, 2454 02:33:47,440 --> 02:33:49,760 Speaker 1: like yeah, I got I got thrown in isn't American? 2455 02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:55,040 Speaker 1: Or who me? You know, I'm Porter Macann. I'm very offensive. 2456 02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:09,280 Speaker 1: So sorry, you're gonna like, yeah, that nigga is that 2457 02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:19,680 Speaker 1: nigga is green, that niggas is funny. That never makes 2458 02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:27,240 Speaker 1: sen Oh he's my guy. Normal, I got you. I'll point, 2459 02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:29,879 Speaker 1: I'll pull your ship. Yeah really no, let's still listen. 2460 02:34:29,959 --> 02:34:33,720 Speaker 1: Man's let's look at the schedule. This is a beautiful thing. 2461 02:34:35,080 --> 02:34:37,960 Speaker 1: It's no schedule. That's that's exactly is thattly what you 2462 02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:42,680 Speaker 1: gotta do. See, you gotta be. You gotta scene because 2463 02:34:42,720 --> 02:34:48,360 Speaker 1: you cripple you crimple big bang that you said since 2464 02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:51,280 Speaker 1: little seeds crippled me since that day you you don't 2465 02:34:51,280 --> 02:34:53,160 Speaker 1: really have a lot of props in hip hop. You 2466 02:34:53,240 --> 02:35:01,640 Speaker 1: just gotta he was gonna stay you crippled, big paper. 2467 02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:05,840 Speaker 1: How did this happen? He was not supposed to be 2468 02:35:05,920 --> 02:35:10,160 Speaker 1: the driving. They didn't drive. But he was fourteen years old, 2469 02:35:12,520 --> 02:35:20,560 Speaker 1: no six, I was six. Probably they never drove. That's 2470 02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:23,480 Speaker 1: why he didn't drive. I didn't do that really wrong though. 2471 02:35:23,560 --> 02:35:26,320 Speaker 1: It was just a drive every now and then I 2472 02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:32,000 Speaker 1: drive the publix. I should say sandwiches are amazing. The 2473 02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:37,400 Speaker 1: sub no I lived in Atlanta for like six years 2474 02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:43,520 Speaker 1: year ship. So I got to waters in Miami. Pop. 2475 02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:46,480 Speaker 1: I know about it from Atlanta. It's fantastic, it's amazing, 2476 02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:54,560 Speaker 1: it's amazing, wings cool, but I like convenge yourself. It 2477 02:35:54,680 --> 02:36:02,160 Speaker 1: sounds like a French restaurant. I don't like islands all 2478 02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:11,880 Speaker 1: the things, but this very hispanic of you to have 2479 02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:18,880 Speaker 1: more black than Italian. Are you black Anton, That's what 2480 02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:30,640 Speaker 1: I heard. I never mean we're not. We're not going 2481 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:34,560 Speaker 1: to stay until the bottoms ball. That's why the funk 2482 02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:37,720 Speaker 1: we're here. What do you mean I'm sucking on? Take 2483 02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:42,800 Speaker 1: care my birthday? That's something, that's that's something. Um, Happy birthday, 2484 02:36:43,360 --> 02:36:51,040 Speaker 1: Happy birthday. Let's let's show that we can read your 2485 02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:58,080 Speaker 1: nationalities here and start off what uh the regular ship, 2486 02:36:58,320 --> 02:37:12,760 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to happy days, the one Happy birthday, Happy birdday, 2487 02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:15,760 Speaker 1: you too, you gay us for the last one day. 2488 02:37:15,840 --> 02:37:21,519 Speaker 1: Now let's let's take it to dn cob yon your face, 2489 02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:29,800 Speaker 1: then go be lyon your f then go be by, 2490 02:37:31,240 --> 02:37:40,760 Speaker 1: go be released like happy than black too. Goddamnit, Happy 2491 02:37:41,000 --> 02:37:59,400 Speaker 1: birdcade too, happy day? Happy to say do suding So 2492 02:37:59,560 --> 02:38:14,480 Speaker 1: it was a don't do the creole versions born. He 2493 02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:18,800 Speaker 1: seems it when he goes to public, that's great, Okay, 2494 02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:26,320 Speaker 1: it's not sex. If you're a man is sexting, you 2495 02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:28,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If he cute to you and 2496 02:38:28,480 --> 02:38:30,840 Speaker 1: you love him and he's singing, that'ship to you as 2497 02:38:30,920 --> 02:38:38,400 Speaker 1: a woman like yoh my nigga yo, depressive mother. I'm 2498 02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:43,760 Speaker 1: just saying that way about. I'm all in. It's like, 2499 02:38:48,320 --> 02:38:50,720 Speaker 1: but that was real nice of you, Like, actually, thank 2500 02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:56,360 Speaker 1: you because we don't know what language that was itch 2501 02:38:56,400 --> 02:39:00,800 Speaker 1: creo French creo. Yeah, okay, that's what you can't tell 2502 02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:08,400 Speaker 1: a fair one, you know, that's a scrench nothing. Nothing 2503 02:39:10,959 --> 02:39:15,280 Speaker 1: like right now all the time. You know, you have 2504 02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:18,240 Speaker 1: to learn the spot about just not the one time 2505 02:39:18,280 --> 02:39:19,680 Speaker 1: you will have me on me. I would break it 2506 02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:25,960 Speaker 1: down for you all about how I'm an asking person. 2507 02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:32,360 Speaker 1: This first is my favorite. Oh my god, yes, ship 2508 02:39:32,440 --> 02:39:42,840 Speaker 1: with the Mexican rest. I'm a little science jacks. So 2509 02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:52,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we covered everything you're doing. Friends. Now, 2510 02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:56,080 Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more time. Was there 2511 02:39:56,080 --> 02:39:59,600 Speaker 1: anything you could do over? What would you do if 2512 02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:02,600 Speaker 1: you could? If I could, I don't know, I mean 2513 02:40:02,840 --> 02:40:11,320 Speaker 1: maybe I would shoot shut na um. Well, if I 2514 02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:16,920 Speaker 1: could do something over again? What would I do Damn, 2515 02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a hard question to put into 2516 02:40:20,200 --> 02:40:23,360 Speaker 1: one answer. You know, it's like I would do this, 2517 02:40:23,560 --> 02:40:26,320 Speaker 1: and then I would do that. You know, I can't 2518 02:40:26,320 --> 02:40:29,320 Speaker 1: single without to one thing. If it's one thing I 2519 02:40:29,360 --> 02:40:32,000 Speaker 1: would do different, it would be fair to say that 2520 02:40:32,200 --> 02:40:38,480 Speaker 1: I would um have been more aware in the beginning 2521 02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:42,240 Speaker 1: of my career instead of thinking about my like thinking 2522 02:40:42,320 --> 02:40:45,440 Speaker 1: off of my emotional coolness and you know, just me. 2523 02:40:45,800 --> 02:40:47,840 Speaker 1: But I don't regret it, though, So I can't even 2524 02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:51,360 Speaker 1: say that. I can't say that because I don't regret like, 2525 02:40:52,120 --> 02:40:54,000 Speaker 1: oh shoot, I gotta shipped on for this, but I 2526 02:40:54,120 --> 02:40:57,200 Speaker 1: was cool with that, and you know, I'm not mad 2527 02:40:57,280 --> 02:41:01,959 Speaker 1: at the the step that is that my personality has 2528 02:41:02,120 --> 02:41:06,000 Speaker 1: fucker numbers of sales and you know what I'm saying, Like, 2529 02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,879 Speaker 1: I'm not mad. So I can't say that I would 2530 02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:11,400 Speaker 1: do anything over because if I could, it's really a 2531 02:41:11,800 --> 02:41:18,040 Speaker 1: big question. You fucking can't How about that ship? Your 2532 02:41:18,080 --> 02:41:22,000 Speaker 1: motherfucking can you chance to do it all over? Everything? 2533 02:41:22,520 --> 02:41:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, but if I had a chance to do 2534 02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:27,119 Speaker 1: it all over, the ship would have presented itself differently 2535 02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:30,400 Speaker 1: anyway you feel me. It's like, bitch, you could do 2536 02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:32,360 Speaker 1: this again. So what would you do if you could? 2537 02:41:32,440 --> 02:41:37,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't. That ain't how life presents itself. And you know, 2538 02:41:37,720 --> 02:41:42,240 Speaker 1: I know I've always you know, even though in hindsight 2539 02:41:42,360 --> 02:41:44,600 Speaker 1: things was like, damn, that didn't work out right because 2540 02:41:44,959 --> 02:41:47,560 Speaker 1: you didn't look at this. But I've always came from 2541 02:41:47,640 --> 02:41:51,280 Speaker 1: the right place. And when I do believe, when you're 2542 02:41:51,320 --> 02:41:53,640 Speaker 1: coming from the right place, you can't go wrong, whether 2543 02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:56,120 Speaker 1: someone takes it the right way, whether it ends up 2544 02:41:56,160 --> 02:41:58,119 Speaker 1: the right way. But in my spirit, in my heart, 2545 02:41:58,480 --> 02:42:00,920 Speaker 1: and in my relationship with God, I can't feel wrong 2546 02:42:01,000 --> 02:42:03,760 Speaker 1: about ship that I know. I wasn't coming from a 2547 02:42:03,800 --> 02:42:06,960 Speaker 1: bad place. You feel me, And I'm cool with that. 2548 02:42:07,320 --> 02:42:08,880 Speaker 1: I called the bed at eight o'clock and I feel 2549 02:42:08,920 --> 02:42:14,680 Speaker 1: great about that ship. Tell him one time this thing 2550 02:42:14,879 --> 02:42:17,400 Speaker 1: was at my house for Thanksgiving. My phone went off 2551 02:42:17,480 --> 02:42:21,480 Speaker 1: at seven five, almost time to go to bed. Come 2552 02:42:21,560 --> 02:42:26,480 Speaker 1: to your phone, like Sherry, time to go to sleep. 2553 02:42:26,480 --> 02:42:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, seven, we call it, Brandy, this is 2554 02:42:32,080 --> 02:42:35,360 Speaker 1: a right there. She's like, what time is way back 2555 02:42:35,879 --> 02:42:43,000 Speaker 1: sho tripping man me. I'm like, al wants some other 2556 02:42:43,080 --> 02:42:48,600 Speaker 1: ship right now, But I really go to bed eight thirty, 2557 02:42:49,160 --> 02:42:51,240 Speaker 1: wake up at four o'clock, go work, out, get my 2558 02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:53,280 Speaker 1: son up at six, you know what I mean? My 2559 02:42:53,320 --> 02:43:04,600 Speaker 1: ship is real scheduled. That's why. That's why I'm fun 2560 02:43:04,720 --> 02:43:07,120 Speaker 1: with it like that, like you know, it's a that's 2561 02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:10,840 Speaker 1: all ship. Like we get up and she's like, y'all, 2562 02:43:10,840 --> 02:43:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be my birthday here, get a flight, nig. 2563 02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:16,039 Speaker 1: It was like she was like a five real quick, 2564 02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:19,240 Speaker 1: who you going out there with? Dolo? I'm like, just 2565 02:43:21,040 --> 02:43:27,320 Speaker 1: see what I can do, okay, And that's like I'm often, 2566 02:43:27,400 --> 02:43:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, granny being the bed. It's a birthday, so 2567 02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:34,480 Speaker 1: she wanted to hang. I'm like, you out for two weeks. 2568 02:43:35,320 --> 02:43:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna use the bathroom and 2569 02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that like a picture. I wanna take 2570 02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:43,280 Speaker 1: a shot. I wanta take a shot. I'm gonna take 2571 02:43:43,280 --> 02:43:52,800 Speaker 1: a shot. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I'm just 2572 02:43:52,959 --> 02:44:09,240 Speaker 1: going I'm just going. Let me tell y'all something. This 2573 02:44:09,320 --> 02:44:13,320 Speaker 1: is the first time we had a female who came 2574 02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:20,600 Speaker 1: drank and smoke because any accents. Amber amble amber a 2575 02:44:20,800 --> 02:44:27,160 Speaker 1: sister Um came only drink right, Trina came only drink 2576 02:44:28,360 --> 02:44:41,800 Speaker 1: amber Um, Angelie came only drink Check the footage. I 2577 02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't remember that super super c Keep drinking, keep drinking, drink, 2578 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,200 Speaker 1: and because you gotta drink, smoke drinking, she drinks smoke. 2579 02:45:12,520 --> 02:45:17,280 Speaker 1: Wait wait, where is my Instagram? No don't go, No, no, 2580 02:45:17,520 --> 02:45:23,600 Speaker 1: don't go, don't please please please come on. So we're 2581 02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:30,680 Speaker 1: supposed to thank you so much. We're gonna, no little sees. 2582 02:45:31,640 --> 02:45:34,600 Speaker 1: This is third time Jenny Kiss been on here, nineteen 2583 02:45:34,640 --> 02:45:45,840 Speaker 1: hundred times. I'm the best. And let me tell you something. 2584 02:45:46,520 --> 02:45:48,880 Speaker 1: Anytime you want to promote anything, anytime you want to 2585 02:45:48,879 --> 02:45:51,800 Speaker 1: talk about anything, you time you'll get anything off your chance, 2586 02:45:51,840 --> 02:46:00,320 Speaker 1: this is you. Listen. No, that's your whole So I 2587 02:46:00,480 --> 02:46:03,720 Speaker 1: just got something to say. It's your home. You can 2588 02:46:03,879 --> 02:46:06,680 Speaker 1: always come here because it's the first time artist is 2589 02:46:06,760 --> 02:46:11,200 Speaker 1: running artists media, Thank you, Thank you all for having me. No, 2590 02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:21,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna it's an honor. Take a bit.