WEBVTT - Everything Everyone Says is True with Jay Shetty 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.240 Okay, hi, everybody. Some tour dates coming up. I'm doing 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:07.080 two shows in Winnipeg. That's Winnipeg. I want to say 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.200 in Manitoba, Canada, but I could be wrong. Anyway, It's 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.280 in Canada March tenth and March eleventh. There are still 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.640 tickets for the March tenth show, so pick those up. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.840 I'm coming to Toronto two shows, still tickets for the 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.720 second show available. Then I go to Ottawa and then 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.160 I kick off my American portion of the tour, picking 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:29.120 back up April fourt in Iowa, Ceda Rapperts, Iowa, and 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.840 then Des Moines, Iowa, and then Omaha, Nebraska. One two 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.199 three punch go to Chelsea Hamla dot com for the 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:36.839 rest of the cities that I will be touring in. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.640 And we are picking back up my Vaccinated and Horny 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:44.400 tour after my brief ski rescipite. So we had a 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.360 little dipsy doodle skiing this week. Um. First of all, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:52.120 good afternoon, everybody. Hi, Hi, Hi, Catherine, Hi Joe KOI 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.280 does not like to ski in the trees, and a 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.360 lot of people are scared of the trees. I love 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.200 the trees, but I try not to force him down 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.240 the trees. But I try to go in trees where 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.600 there's space so that he doesn't have to make any quick, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.480 fancy moves. And I take him in the trees a 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:10.440 lot to practice so that he'll start to like the 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.400 only way to get better it's something, is to continually 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.160 do it right anyway, So we there was a huge, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.360 huge snow dump in Whistler, and now I'm speaking like skiers. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.440 There was a huge dump and we went through the 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.200 woods and we were with my guide Kelly, who is 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.279 an excellent skier, and Joe could not get his skis 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.679 underneath him. They just he was falling left, right, and center, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.640 and he skied pretty much into a tree. It wasn't 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.040 a big tree. So I was like, honey, stay there, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.000 I'll come up because I was beneath him. I had 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.640 skied down. I was down like twenty well probably first 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.120 I was like, funk do I take my boots off 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.560 from my skis because that's a big no no, and 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.120 skiing like you never want to be in your boots 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.440 because you don't know how deep the powder is going 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:53.880 to be, and then you could sink all the way down. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.080 So you need your skis because they're like a boat. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.000 So I was like, fun, fun. So I took them 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.520 off and I started to climb up. I was like, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.520 all right, I'm strong enough. I'm a mountain woman. Now 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.440 I knew how to do this. I'll go get him. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.240 And I could not, Like I did not have the 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.720 stamina to step through the There was such deep powder 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.960 and I was going up and so I called down. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.760 Kelly was another thirty feet beneath me, and I was like, Kelly, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.000 you gotta go get him. I can't. She's like, I'm crabbing. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.240 I'm crabbing. I'm coming. So and he the whole time, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.360 I'm like, stop moving because he's trying to navigate him. Say, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.040 he's trying to get himself out of the tree, and 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.920 I'm like, it's it could be a tree. Well in 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.400 that situation, just stay where you are, do not move, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.560 wait for someone to come. Is that like kind of 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.359 quicksand Well, if you move around too much, you could 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.600 get stuck in it. So if you're not stuck in it, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.240 just wait. You know, trying to get yourself out of 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.400 it will help you get stuck in it. You know, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.640 that's a possibility. So she had to go up and 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.840 get him. It took this stuck like forty minutes, and 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.400 when he came down, he was like, where were you? 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.000 He said, where were you? You know, like that was 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.480 bad and where were you? And I was like, fuck, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.799 I was right down here. Joe was supervising the entire 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.720 the entire thing, and he goes, you really need to 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.040 think about that. I needed you and you weren't there. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.440 And I was like, honestly, I thought I would be 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.240 putting both of us in danger if I came up 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.880 when I knew we had someone. I go, if we 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.000 didn't have Kelly, I would have come up and done 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.040 it absolutely, but we had Kelly. And then I thought, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.960 maybe I'm pushing him too far, you know, like I 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.639 don't want him to get hurt or injured, and it's 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.000 funny to make him ski hard, and he's by the way, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.840 he's fucking great. He's going to be a better steer 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.040 than I am by the end of this season. Anyway, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.160 just a little story to tell where I really felt 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.720 like a piece of ship because I was like, he 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.560 was right. I should have been right by his side, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.320 especially when I'm making him do something. Yeah. Well, and 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.320 it's nice to know that you guys don't just only 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.240 have a perfect wonderful relationship, like you have to work 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.240 through some stuff too. Know. He calls me out on ship. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.320 You know what's so funny when we went to Canada, 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.760 because I was so I was like, do not get 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.040 this omicron Before we left in December, I was like, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.680 you cannot get omicron. I have to get into Canada. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.440 Ski is my happy place. I need this time this 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.120 year in order. If I don't get into Canada because 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.800 I test positive for a macron, like, I'm gonna be 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.840 pissed at you. So he's like, and I'm on him. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.720 He's on tour, he travels with the crew, so I 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.560 always like, be careful, be careful. We get to We 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.320 get to Canada and my friend and she was having 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.479 us over. She goes, oh my god, I tested positive 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.559 for covid omicron, like seven days ago. She said. Public 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.200 health has cleared me. They said it's only seven days. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.400 It's been seven days since my first symptom. It's seven 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.960 days now. I shouldn't have it, but I will be 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.679 testing positive for it. They said I could test positive 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.960 for it for eight days. I was like, oh funk, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.200 I don't care. We're here, let's go, We'll go over 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.760 to Andrews. I bring my my own COVID test because 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.680 I have them, and we give her a test and 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.039 Joe looks at because Jesse, she's positive. And I go 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.880 and go on the end of your garage, like just 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.000 stand in the back of your garage, like wear your 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.040 mask and stand in the back of roach. As the 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.800 night went on, like different kids were coming down, She's like, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.920 you go upstairs. He's shedding. He's positive, he's negative. I was, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.640 oh my god, we're like in the hub of the 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.920 omicron virus. So when we left there, like it took 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.760 like a week, but Joe goes, I need to talk 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.440 to you. He goes, You're a fucking hypocrite. He goes, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.680 you made such a big deal about me and being 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.479 safe on the road and on tour, not getting omicron, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.960 not going to clubs, not going anywhere without my mask, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.560 he goes. And then we arrived in Canada and the 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.680 first thing you do is dropped me in a den 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.240 of COVID And I was like, he goes, you have 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.960 one set of rules for yourself, and then you have 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.840 one set of rules for everyone else. And I was like, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.080 you're fucking right. I just looked at it. I go, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.320 everything you're saying is right. I'm a hypocrite and you're right. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.040 And then he kept going, goes, but you go, Joe, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.480 You're right. I am You're everything is right. I'm wrong 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.200 and I don't have any excuse and I have no defense. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:52.360 Let's press forward. Well, Chelsea, this week I got a crazy, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.039 crazy email and I really just had to read it 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.800 to you. So the subject line is I knew I 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.839 is alive when I heard Chelsea's voice. Dear Chelsea, I 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.240 have an hour plus commute each way to work, and 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.000 your podcast has been a staple on my drive. I 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.960 love your directness, your delivery, and always your humor. Your 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.240 podcast brings a much needed positive lift to my day 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.640 to hear about other people's lives and listening to you 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.560 and your guests advice all the different perspectives I truly appreciate. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.239 I was listening to your podcast on my way to work. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.760 I had twenty minutes of my drive left when another 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.480 vehicle blew their stop sign and hit my car on 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.520 the front right side. I was on a highway doing 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.920 fifty five miles per hour and they had come from 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:41.160 an intersecting highway also doing fifty. It all happens so fast, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.360 neither one of us had time to hit the brakes. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.120 I remember thinking this is happening, and then if this 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.840 is how I go out, I'm going to be so piste. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.960 The air bag went off. I remember going up in 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.720 the air and the feeling of being pitched up, like 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.680 sitting in a rocket ready to launch. And then silence. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.480 And then when I heard your voice, Chelsea, coming from 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.039 your podcast, still playing through my car speakers, I knew 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.800 I was alive and still in this world. My next 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.880 thought was, fuck, yeah, I'm here, and I was so 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.120 grateful to hear your voice. I sit here today not 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.800 knowing how I walked away from that experience alive. I 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.720 have an upcoming surgery this week and recovery ahead of me, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.640 but I live another day to say thank you to 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.320 the inspiring women out there like you, and I'm grateful 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.480 for the love and support from my family and friends. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.040 Keep up your great work. Take care, tempy Vermir, Oh God, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.960 we're so happy you're alive. Tempy, Tempy, tempy Vermir. We 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.920 don't usually share a last name on here, but what 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.320 an excellent name, O, Tempy. Thank God, you're all right. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.440 I'm so glad that you heard my voice and that 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.120 was a good thing. Oh lovely. Yeah, yeah, it is. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.040 Thanks for sharing that and writing that. I love it. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:58.280 I love it so yeah, I just wanted to share. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.080 And by the way, here is the picture she's sent 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.400 of her car, and she said, ps, I'm attaching a 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.320 photo of the car I walked away from and the 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.880 Sealfie on Sunday and made my parents and fiance take 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.760 with me because I'm alive to do so. For you. Yeah, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.480 you never know everybody listening when you're going to be 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.120 there in a moment where somebody really will never forget 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.640 or really needs you. So it doesn't matter if you're 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.880 famous or you're not famous, or you have a big 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.360 platform or you have a small one. You can always 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.400 have an impact on somebody's life. And it could even 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.200 be a stranger's. So don't forget that. Our guest today 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.160 is a New York Times bestselling author. He wrote a 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.280 book called Think Like a Monk. He is the host 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.559 of the number one health and wellness podcast. It's called 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.640 On Purpose. I think I've been on that, Yes I have. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.680 And he's Calms newly appointed Chief Purpose Officer on the combat. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.360 He is going to have his own meditations coming soon 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.679 or maybe already out. I don't know any minute. J 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.240 Hi Ja Shetty, Hey, Chelsea, thank you for having so 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.280 nice to see It's so nice to see you. It's 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.840 been too long. Thank you. J J. This is Catherine, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.120 our producer. Hi. Nice to meet you. She co hosts 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.680 this podcast with me. I love it. Yeah. So we 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.840 saw each other probably two to three years ago, the 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.480 last time we saw each other, and I came on 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.400 your podcast. That's right, that's right, which was pretty awesome 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:32.319 because we were talking about meditation and presents and therapy 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.360 and we just met at Wisdom two point Oh oh yeah, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.480 that's where we connected. Oh yeah, how would you that's 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.520 a good idea. Let's start with that. How do you 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.600 how would you describe that conference? So I was invited 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.000 to speak at the conference, and you were speaking at 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.720 the conference too, and Wisdom to point oh. I would 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:54.000 define as a conference for introducing people to meditation spiritual practices, 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.679 and it's like a community of people who are looking 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.080 or seeking alternative practices for their well being. I think 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.120 that's my best shot, but maybe yeah, well, I always 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.000 just describe it as like a bunch of different like 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:11.440 you know, neuroscientists, neurophysicists, like you know, just an esteemed 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.400 group of doctors getting together to talk about what drugs 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.600 are going to become legalized in the near future. Also 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.760 because it's a lot about LSD, psilocybin and micro dosing 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.880 and kind of guided meditation journeys through those things or 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.480 without those things. So it's so it's a panoply of 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.040 different kind of areas, but it's all under the same 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.920 umbrella of betterment, right than well being. And I think 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.599 the last time I spoke to you, I think you 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.360 told me that you and your wife have like a 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.559 three is it a three hour or two hours to 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.880 our meditation practice each morning? Okay, So can you talk 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.640 me through that a little bit? Absolutely, So it changes 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.600 now because of travel and late nights, and so it's 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.120 not always partying a lot these days. That's definitely no bodies, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.240 just just travel and work and whatever else it may be. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.680 So it's not always in the morning. But the practice 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.040 consists of three types of meditation that I was trained 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.559 in as a monk. So you have breathwork, visualization, and mantra. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.559 So I start with breathwork. I could spend anywhere from 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.640 ten to fifteen minutes practicing everything from analom, vilom two 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.800 coupla batti, breathing to make sure that I'm feeling connected 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.560 and present with my body. Ill then move into visualization. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.920 This is something I pick and choose. I'll do that 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.120 if i have something that I'm going to do that 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.480 I'm nervous about. So I'll give you an example of 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.680 where I used it recently. I last year decided with 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.520 my wife that we would do lots of extreme challenges together. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.320 So we did everything from cold plunges to zip lines 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.840 to skydiving our first time skydiving together. So the morning 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.440 before I went skydiving, I visualized myself skydiving and I 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.640 felt sick in the first seven visualizations, but in the 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.719 eighth it was gone, and by the time I was 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.679 actually jumping out a plane, I didn't feel sick at all. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.160 So I use visualization as a way of going through 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.000 pet entual pain that I'm about to face so that 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.160 I can experience it beforehand, or nerves, and then finally mantra. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.160 Chanting mantras has been a big part of my practice. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.080 There are some beautiful mantras out there and and there 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.199 are a few that I focus in on, so it 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.760 will be broken up into like ten fifteen minutes on breathwork, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.560 five minutes on visualization, and about an hour and a 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.800 half on mantra. And I know that you are just 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.960 that you just teamed up with Calm too. You're gonna 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.360 have your own meditation series. I'm so excited about that. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.600 We just announced and now we have something called the 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.280 Daily J on Calm. You can meditate with me every 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.640 single day for seven seven minutes. I was gonna say 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.960 seven days, seven minutes every day. And what it allows 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.120 you to do is combine story, breathwork, visualization, all these 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.600 meditations I'm speaking about and allows you to build your 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.840 own practice for seven minutes, so you can get it 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.680 right now. Great, awesome, that's great because everybody on this podcast, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.719 or are all of our listeners, are always attempting to 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.280 learn how to meditate. So tell me somebody, for somebody 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.040 who's been meditating for how many years now, seventeen years, 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.640 seventeen years, how has your meda you should how is 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.840 your practice changed during that time? I think my practice 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.080 has changed because in the beginning it was very much 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:12.199 about presence and stillness, and now it's also turned into 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.280 uh connection for me, like spiritual connection, and that's where 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.840 it started, but it's definitely evolved in that direction. So 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.800 for me, meditation is connected to me feeling aligned with 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.000 my purpose. It's a place that I remove what I 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.679 call weeds from my heart. So I'll look at negative 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.200 intentions or energies, and I'll look at meditation as an 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.199 opportunity to actually take stock and take order of where 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.840 I am and use it to purify and cleanse myself. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:40.640 So I look at like, where did I feel an 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.760 emotion this week that I wasn't happy with how I behaved? 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.920 Or how did I speak to someone this week that 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.800 actually it doesn't make me feel good about myself? How 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.240 can I purify myself of that? So, to me, the 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.680 purification aspect of meditation has become a big priority for 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.600 me now, more than just the presence and stillness that's 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.240 in my personal practice. Yeah, I think it's interest when 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.960 you talk about for anyone really, because like you have 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.360 certain habits or maybe bad behaviors, you know, quick responses 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.120 or reactions to things, and then over time, as you 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.320 practice not reacting so much to those things when you 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.800 do have a blip and you do react in a 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.800 way that you're not happy with. It's very much on 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.880 the surface right away, like there's no denial or defensiveness, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.840 which is what got you out of it, you know. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.920 Years ago for me, i'd be like, you know, I 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.680 tell three people and they all tell me I was right. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.560 I'm like, all right, that's good. I did the right thing. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.840 Now it's like, I don't tell anybody. I know I 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.280 was wrong and it's right there, and I'm like, that 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.400 wasn't the nicest way to response to that. And if 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.360 those things happen close together, I get nervous. I'm like, oh, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.280 you're you know, regressing. You better make sure because I 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.760 look at meditation now, I'm nowhere, you know, near what 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.320 you're doing. I never trained or studied with monks or 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.320 anything like that, obviously, because they would have kicked me out. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.280 But did they did they ask you to leave? It 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.480 thought you were fully It's not you, it's me kind 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.880 of situation. It's like a break up. Like it's like 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.640 I said to them that I think I should leave 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.800 because I think I got this self awareness that I 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.880 don't think I'm a monk anymore. And they said to me, Yeah, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.800 we think that's a good idea. They said to me, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.720 We feel you should leave so that you can share 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.160 what you've learned. And that's that's how they said it. Yeah, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.040 well that's what you're doing trying definitely. Yeah, So I 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:26.360 think with regard to making little blips or making little mistakes, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.920 it's like you you kind of learned to navigate away 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.760 from the bigger ones and learned to be more sensible 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.760 in your reactivity and you know what kind of you know, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.040 the way you're communicating with people. But when it does 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.320 come up, it's definitely an enlightened or more enlightened person 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.760 is definitely much more hip to go Okay, oh that's 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.320 not a good thing for me to be doing or saying. Absolutely, 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.800 and so okay, so what have you been up to 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.280 professionally in the last couple of years, because you you're everywhere, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.480 you know, you're like Deepak Chopper Jr. Sorry if that's sorry, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.600 that's not one of your love If you don't look 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.160 up to deep No, I have so much respect for Deeper. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.360 I have so much respect for so many people who 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.600 I think have come before me in this world of 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.960 trying to serve, trying to share, and so I have. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.920 I have only good things to say about deep Back. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.160 For sure. He's he's wonderful in person. Yeah, and I 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.240 love i Eckartole is my like. I love to listen 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.520 to that because he seems so far removed from well, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.840 real life, you know what I mean. It's almost like, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.160 you know, when I think about meditation, I think of like, oh, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.440 this is my time to like be respectful to the 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.920 universe and say I'm here to be still in quiet 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.040 to make myself good for today, you know, to give 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.280 myself the calm that I need for today and the 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.640 focus and the good intentions and all of the things 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.680 that come with it. And I find his writing and 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.720 his words to be they're very deep, and a lot 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.000 of people are not into that, like how deep it goes? Yeah, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.560 I feel like, you know, for me, when I started 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.520 my work, my genuine goal was to help build a 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.160 pathway for people to go as deep as they wanted 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.320 to go. I was very fortunate to study the bug 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.520 with Geta and text that are five thousand years old, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.880 and I love talking about them and I love sharing them. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.000 And in my book Think like a Monk, I'll take 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.919 out a verse and put it into a chapter, and 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.240 I've seen people really be able to gravitate and appreciate it. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.360 But I also find that some people just want to 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.080 feel better right now. And so with my work over 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:19.920 the last two years, and of course we can dive 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.960 into different parts, but my ultimate goal is to help 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:28.159 people bridge that gap from entertainment to education to enlightenment. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.600 And I think that's the journey that I'd love for 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.320 entertainment to reach as many people in the world as possible, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.040 education to reach those who want to take that step 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.360 into their own self development and personal growth, and then 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.800 enlightenment as a journey that people can take if they 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.720 want that too. And so I think building that bridge 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.880 is so important because if I look back at how 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.040 I was as a teen, if you told me about 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.800 any of that journey, I'd be like, give me the entertainment. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.719 I don't want any of the other stuff. And so 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.719 I feel like I'm trying to go back and connect 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.280 with my younger self or anyone who reminds me of 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.240 my younger self where I grew up, saying well, why 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.480 do I need any of this stuff? And and as 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.240 time has gone on, I've seen the value of it 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.240 and when you're doing what you're doing because you're combining 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.520 two worlds, right, You're dividing deep spirituality with also awareness 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.920 and you you're on a mission for that. So how 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.399 do you kind of when your ego is something that 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.520 is so not necessary and spirituality but it's kind of 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.840 useful in this business, how do you reconcile the two. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.480 So it's really interesting. I spoke to my monk teacher 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.560 when I decided I was going to move to l A, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.360 and the first thing he said to me is, you're 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.120 moving to the capital of illusion, and you should be very, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.560 very cautious. And here I was going, well, why are 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.520 you not excited for me? Like, I've got so many 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.600 opportunities coming my way and I'm so looking forward to this. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.160 And he said, you should just be cautious of Maya. 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.800 Maya is illusion, another word for illusion in Sanskrit. Said 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.760 you should, you should be careful, you should be cautious. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.679 And what I've realized is I'm really lucky to have 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.000 amazing mentors. He's seventy years old, he's been a monk 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.960 for forty years. I'm so fortunate to have these incredible 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.679 role models in my life who I've seen display and 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.880 embody humility and constantly remind me of its value. So 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.800 as a monk, you're trained that the most admirable quality 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.400 in anyone is their humility, their groundedness. And so we 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.119 were like, you know, that was like repeated again and 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.520 again and again to us every day, and then when 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.880 you get to see it in someone, I think one 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.800 of the challenges with ego and humility is that I 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.240 would like everyone who's listening right now to genuinely think 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.040 about how many people they've met in their life that 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:40.040