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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steff.

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And today we are adding another activist slash filmmaker who

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Speaker 2: previously released an OSCAR nominated short in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: and just another film this year in September. And when

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Speaker 2: I say we're adding another act filmmaker, I mean probably

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Speaker 2: another film and movie that we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: add to our feminist movie and our long list of

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Speaker 2: Oh look who he found? We need to watch these things.

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Speaker 2: And we were talking about Sarah Nabusi and of course,

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Speaker 2: as per usual when we talk about people from other

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Speaker 2: countries at international level, we try our best with pronunciations,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes need assistance. The Internet can be limited, so

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Speaker 2: if you know of a difference of the way we're speaking,

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Speaker 2: please let us know nicely. We do try to do

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Speaker 2: all of the videos, so we have watched like three

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Speaker 2: or four videos with different pronunciations. I will say there

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Speaker 2: were more availability for her since she as a filmmaker,

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Speaker 2: so I appreciative of that, but said that we can't

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Speaker 2: find that easy access for everyone. But you know that

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Speaker 2: would be a little difficult, a little difficult, just say it.

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Speaker 2: And for those future activists out there, go ahead and

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Speaker 2: tell everybody your name, you know, post your name pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: It'd be very helpful because we'd love to talk about you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there was a push for that, wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Wow, there was pronounce your name because people would do

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Speaker 2: it wrong, and then a lot of times women specifically

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Speaker 2: or marginalized people would just let it go instead of correcting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I say we go back to that correcting everyone. I

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Speaker 2: just gave any really scary face. Anyway, back to Nazi.

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Speaker 2: Naboot Shee is a British Palestinian filmmaker who originally was

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Speaker 2: in the world of finance as a stockbroker, but made

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Speaker 2: a drastic career change in her late thirties as a filmmaker.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, yeah, as I understand these changes. In

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Speaker 2: different interviews, she has talked about the reason she made

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Speaker 2: this decision to change her path, and here's what she

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Speaker 2: told Vogue Arabia in twenty twenty one. My background has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with film. I didn't study film and

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Speaker 2: I didn't work in the industry. I was very much

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Speaker 2: happy in the business and corporate world, she explains. The

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Speaker 2: bookshelf behind her stocked with scholarly files, trophies, and family photos.

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Speaker 2: So what made her change the trajectory of her life.

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Speaker 2: I went home, she said, simply so. The article continues.

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Speaker 2: Nabusi had visited Palestine a number of times as a child,

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Speaker 2: the reality of her ancestral home. Everything I thought I

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing compared to seeing on the ground with my

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Speaker 2: own two eyes. She explains. Whether it was the wall

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Speaker 2: plowing through the Palastinian homes, the humiliating checkpoints, the refugee

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Speaker 2: camps that I visited, or the ruins of demolished homes

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Speaker 1: And here's a bit more about Nabuzi from her site.

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Speaker 1: She is the daughter of Palestinians who are fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: to make a home in nineteen seventies Britain, unlike the

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Speaker 1: millions who continue to remain stateless and refugee camps. Born,

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Speaker 1: raised and educated in London, Vera began her career as

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Speaker 1: an institutional equity stockbroker. She ended up with the CFA

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Speaker 1: a children focused business that she ran for ten years.

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Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, she started working in the film industry.

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Speaker 1: She founded a production company through which she writes, produces,

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Speaker 1: and directs fiction films exploring topics that mattered to her,

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Speaker 1: and she created a digital resource to deconstruct the Israeli

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Speaker 1: military occupation of Palestine in a way never done before.

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Speaker 2: And that's all on her website. In another interview with

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Speaker 2: Al Jazeera, she spoke about her heritage and her family.

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Speaker 2: I was born, raised everything UK, and I can tell

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Speaker 2: My parents weren't about the politics at all, but they

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Speaker 2: from and so essentially where I was from. I never

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Speaker 2: had this identity crisis. I was British and Palestinian. And

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Speaker 2: she continues on, as children, we would go to Palestine,

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Speaker 1: In her directorial debut, the short film The Present, Nabuzzi

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Speaker 1: is actually happening, and the main character, Usef, is the

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Speaker 1: only fiction in that scene is our protagonist Usef. All

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Speaker 1: the other hundreds of Palestinians you see there, actual Palestinians

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Speaker 1: a whole philosophical conversation we could have about who should

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Speaker 1: we be asking permissions from to film such a monstrosity.

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Speaker 1: I just decided we were going to take that risk.

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Speaker 2: Right So, as a part of the behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: apparently it was gorilla filming, or they did very skeletal

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Speaker 2: the film garnered several high rated reviews as one of

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Speaker 2: the best short films of that year. In fact, the

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Speaker 2: film was not only nominated for an Oscar but also

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Speaker 2: won a BAFTA Award for Best Short Film twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: And in September of this year, twenty twenty three, Nabootsi

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Speaker 2: released her newest film, The Teacher, which is her featured

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Speaker 2: tells the story of a grief written Palestinian school teacher, Bassam,

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Speaker 2: his students, Adam and Yakob, when their home is bulldozed.

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Speaker 2: Throughout the film, Basama attempts to reconcile his role as

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Speaker 2: a father figure to Adam and Yakob and his commitment

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Speaker 2: incident in which an IDF soldier the son of an

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Speaker 2: longlisted for the twenty twenty three British Independent Film Awards

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Speaker 1: The film was shot entirely in Palestine, which Nabootsi refers

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Speaker 1: to as something very important for her storytelling. She teled

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Speaker 1: Deadline dot Com. There are certain stark stereotypes that have

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Speaker 1: as only cinema really knows how to do. She says.

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Speaker 1: been taking place for decades, then that's wonderful. She adds,

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Speaker 1: say I needed to make this film to cope with

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Speaker 2: And with it being something she needed for herself. Nabutsi

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Speaker 2: has previously talked about the depth of sharing these films

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Speaker 2: for others to understand. Here's another quote from that twenty

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of that available, but how do

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Speaker 2: you engage people through the heart? Ultimately, that's what I

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Speaker 2: am interested in. I want to speak to people from

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Speaker 2: my heart to their heart, as opposed to talking facts

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Speaker 2: and figures and studies show that if you can bring

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Speaker 2: people to understand and feel and address them through their hearts,

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Speaker 2: you have a much higher chance of moving them away

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Speaker 2: from their positions or even changing their minds. It goes on,

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Speaker 2: film seemed to be one of her best way to

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Speaker 2: on to say, for me, it just became so obvious

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Speaker 2: that that's the way I wanted to engage, says Nabutsi,

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Speaker 2: and I've loved film since forever. Anyone who knew me

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Speaker 2: as a teen knows that I'm exactly where I am

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Speaker 2: supposed to be right now, and that felt completely right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that the journey I went on wasn't

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Speaker 2: something I didn't enjoy. It was actually very helpful in

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Speaker 2: many ways. So you can find a lot of articles

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Speaker 2: about her talking about her change and about why this

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Speaker 2: is so important to her. Again, this was all from

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Speaker 2: articles I believe of September or earlier of this year, right.

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Speaker 1: And we definitely I want to check this out. We'll

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Speaker 1: add it to our our list these movies.

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Speaker 2: As a list I know which is great.

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