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Speaker 2: We'll come up with a new poll question here for

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Speaker 2: hour two. I talked to Adam Sandler last night and

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Speaker 2: I told him I just joked, and I sent him

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Speaker 2: a text. I said, I'm becoming really, really popular because

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Speaker 2: of the movie. And then he calls me and he goes,

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Speaker 2: people are asking you about the movie. I said yes,

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Speaker 2: and he goes, Danny, these numbers are crazy. I said,

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Speaker 2: you could get one hundred million streams in a week's time,

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Speaker 2: so there are less than a week. And they got

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Speaker 2: forty eight million streams with that movie, and probably looking

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Speaker 2: at one hundred million streams for Happy Go More two.

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Speaker 2: And then we started talking about the highest grossing sports

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Speaker 2: movies because this is a sports movie, and I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize that The blind Side has made the most money

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Speaker 2: at the box office of any sports movie in history.

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Speaker 2: And then I was curious about the other sports movies,

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Speaker 2: and I realized Dylan and Back said, well, Cars, Cars one,

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Speaker 2: Cars two, Cars three animated movies are the second, third,

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Speaker 2: and fourth on that list. So it's The blind Side,

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Speaker 2: then it's Car and then the sequel, and then it's

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Speaker 2: the third movie, then the trilogy of Cars. As your

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Speaker 2: sports movies, who what movie is fourth on that list?

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Speaker 3: There's different lists, but sports movies have made more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred million. The blind Side, The water Boy, Longest Yard,

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Speaker 3: Your Longest Yard, not the original. Jerry Maguire did two

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy million, Talladega Knights did one hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty million, Rocky four, Rocky three, Sea Biscuit did over

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Speaker 3: one hundred million, remember the Titans, I do. I did

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Speaker 3: not remember that doing that well at the theater one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty six million.

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Speaker 2: But the Blinds. I was not a big fan of

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Speaker 2: The blind Side. You know, I love me some Sandra Bullock,

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Speaker 2: but I just, I don't know, felt a little cheesy.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's based on the extraordinary story. That's what it

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Speaker 2: says on the movie poster. Michael Orr, who was a

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Speaker 2: NFL lineman for the Ravens, and so they tell the

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Speaker 2: story of him and this family that took him in

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it became Hollywood. Yes, Marmon.

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Speaker 5: Also, he didn't know how to read either. Yeah, they

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Speaker 5: taught him how to read, and they taught him how

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Speaker 5: to football. What a story.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much truth there is. I will

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Speaker 2: tell you this though. Whenever, whenever there was a possibility

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Speaker 2: we were going to talk to Michael Orr, we were

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Speaker 2: always cautioned, do not bring up the blind Side. He

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Speaker 2: does not want to talk about the blind Side. And

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Speaker 2: it feels like there's some money that didn't come his way.

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe the family didn't play the role

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Speaker 2: that they are projected to have played in the movie. Yes, Pauline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael Orr. I don't know the status of it now,

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Speaker 3: but about three years ago there was a lawsuit going

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Speaker 3: on with the family and a lot of murky details

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Speaker 3: about it. A couple more movies that made over one

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Speaker 2: That's a bad movie. Really, Yes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what's funny. It got so overhyped. When I saw it,

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Speaker 3: I was a lightly disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, she gets injured because Clint Eastwood, I guess,

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Speaker 2: keeps the chair that the boxer sits in the corner

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Speaker 2: and then she I don't know. That just bothered me.

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Speaker 3: But if that doesn't happen, it really changes them.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: Mean it's just per feight.

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Speaker 2: It does, it does. She falls down and probably gets back.

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Speaker 3: Wins the fight. Yeah, a league of their own one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two million. Back in the nineties, Creed,

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Speaker 3: the Creed movies have crushed one hundred and seventy three million.

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Speaker 3: Dodgeball made one hundred and sixty seven million. Great film,

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Speaker 3: isn't that amazing film?

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Speaker 2: It's not a film. But if how many of these

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Speaker 2: movies would you say of films and how many are movies.

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Speaker 3: Well, like high end. Remember The Titans is somewhat of

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Speaker 3: a not serious movie, but it's well respected.

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Speaker 3: A million Dollar Baby got a lot of nomination and

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Speaker 3: that's film ish. Yes, the First Rocky made one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seventeen million in nineteen seventy six. That's a film

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Speaker 3: that and it got nominated. Okay, all right, here's a

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Speaker 3: tough one Blades of Glory. I'm saying film No, that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a that's a hockey one more of a

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Speaker 3: seabiscuit got a lot of good reviews. That made one

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Speaker 2: Forty blades of glory is Will Ferrell and John Heater, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: definitely fun Okay, um, all right, so I have I'm

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Speaker 2: in two movies on the list there.

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Speaker 3: How about Jerry Maguire. That's considered a good movie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is? That is that's a good movie. Film like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: good actors. Now, how do they do it with streams?

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Speaker 2: Because Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore made I think forty million

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Speaker 2: at the box office, but Happy Gilmore two is gonna

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Speaker 2: have one hundred million streams. But I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that means with the box office when it comes to

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Speaker 2: movies that you stream as opposed to what you make

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Speaker 2: when you go to the theater.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, it's hard to find those numbers of

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Speaker 3: most stream movies of twenty twenty five. They knew it

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Speaker 3: week by week. But Netflix is just building more credibility

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm already over a billion dollars I mean

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Speaker 2: on box office gold in the movies that I've been

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Speaker 2: in with Sandler. Yeah, they've made over a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many actors can say they've been

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Speaker 2: in movies that have made over a billion dollars they've

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Speaker 2: contributed that I've been involved in. I mean, when you

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Speaker 2: look at what is the constant there? You know, Sandler, Me,

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Speaker 2: maybe David Spade, maybe Rob Schneider. But they weren't in

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Speaker 2: this movie. Spade not in it, Schneider not in it.

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Speaker 2: The King of Queens he wasn't in it, but I was, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Hey, the Burster Bubble, Yeah, I Schneider wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: He's in happyre He's.

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Speaker 5: A happy gim wore too.

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Speaker 2: Did he do the line you can do it? I

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Speaker 2: don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Spoil it for you.

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Speaker 2: Huh. Yes, he did okay, all right, spoil all right,

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Speaker 2: all right, no worries. But I were invited to Madison

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Speaker 2: Square Garden. Sandler is going to play the garden and

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Speaker 2: he's going to do his stand up act at the

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Speaker 2: garden when September what yes, So he he he called

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Speaker 2: me last night and we talked a little bit about

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Speaker 2: the movie and then he said that he's going on

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Speaker 2: on the road and he's going to play Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know, invite everybody, Danny, invite the dan Euts.

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Speaker 2: And so you guys are getting an invitation to watch

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Speaker 2: Sandler do his stand up act. Yes, point, I've got

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Speaker 2: that as September fifteenth. It feels like a school night.

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Speaker 3: It is a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, can he change it?

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll fire up the New York City studio again.

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Speaker 3: I'll say, dust it off.

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Speaker 2: That was convenient when we go to the city and

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Speaker 2: then you'll be like, all right, we don't have to

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Speaker 2: drive two hours to get back home at midnight or

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Speaker 2: one in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Tuesday NYC show No Problem train right after the show Monday.

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Speaker 2: Ooh dinner perfect, go see Sandman.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marv Sandler's at Mohegan Sun September twenty sixth, which

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Speaker 5: is a Friday.

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Speaker 2: We can do that. Well, Okay, do you want to

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Speaker 2: see Sandler in the garden or do you want to

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Speaker 2: see Sandler at a casino in Connecticut on a Friday night? Todd,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you.

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Speaker 7: I would, for convenience go to the Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Seaton Garden all day, all day garden.

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Speaker 2: I mean when you perform in the garden.

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Speaker 6: Heck, yeah, dude, it's Madison Square Gardens. Adam Sandler, definitely.

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Speaker 2: It's like when Hooty and the Blowfish played the Garden

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Speaker 2: and this is when they got back together. And I remember,

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Speaker 2: and Darius goes, are you going to get on stage?

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Speaker 2: I said, are you kidding me? I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: that I played the garden. So I got on stage

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Speaker 2: and I was playing the bongos like my life depended on. Yes,

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Speaker 2: see that.

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Speaker 6: Bill Burr tells a story about the I think it

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Speaker 6: was the first time he was playing Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 6: I think this is story, so I might get it wrong,

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Speaker 6: but he was playing Madison Square Garden and he was like,

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Speaker 6: holy crap. I can't believe that I'm doing this. So

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Speaker 6: could say that they played Madison Square Guard. He's a

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Speaker 6: So he brought during his sound check, he brought him

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Speaker 6: and his buddies out there and they just jammed in

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Speaker 2: How sick is this? Which is awesome. That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: you should do. That's what I did. He of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting up there. I'm going to play cow bell.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I'm grabbing something, I'm going to play the garden bell. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mark mal cowbell. Fritzie's going to the casino, Marvin Garden

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Speaker 2: or the casino for Sandler. Oh, the garden, all right.

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Speaker 3: Paul Garden, New York City Special Night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He was really excited when I talked to him

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Speaker 2: last night about that. He's like Danny playing the Garden.

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Speaker 2: And I mean anybody who plays the Garden, I don't care,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're a comedian, if you're a singer,

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Speaker 2: a band playing the garden. That's still big. You play

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Speaker 2: the garden, Yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 3: The last time you took is to see Sandler. He

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Speaker 3: plays a guitar. You tell stories. I'm paraphrasy. He told

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Speaker 3: his story about taking his kids skiing and how he's

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Speaker 3: trying to put the boots on him and he's sweating

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Speaker 3: and he can't get it together and he's screaming, I'm

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Speaker 3: Adam Sandler. Don't I have people to do this? And

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Speaker 3: the crowd just ate it up. They ate it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these little vignettes that he sings about, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: And he's really talented as a guitar player, so that'll

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Speaker 2: be fun. DraftKings just sent me this the Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year on. It's Coach Todd. I'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: Who has the best odds to be the coach of

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Speaker 2: the year this year in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton.

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Speaker 4: Seton, Jim Harbaugh, Marvin Zach Taylor, Paul dan Quinn, Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 6: You know what, the odds makers must have watched sports

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Speaker 6: in Foxborough.

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Speaker 2: They get the magic too. It's something special is happening.

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Speaker 2: There's no other sport that looks better in slow motion

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Speaker 2: than football. Nope, so Mike Rabel, then Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 8: Good morning? I was calling in about the Chargers update

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Speaker 13: in and ramp up the pressure, and I think there's

436
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Speaker 13: a deal to be made for both of those players,

437
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Speaker 13: just you know, you hope it sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 2: And then the Micah Parsons situation as well, I just

439
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Speaker 2: feels like all of these deals get done. I know

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Speaker 2: we get excited, we're hungry for any content this time

441
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Speaker 2: of the year, but I just why do we wait?

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Speaker 2: Why do owners wait?

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Speaker 13: Don't I don't want to say it's owners waiting. I

444
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Speaker 13: think for Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 12: Everybody seems to be waiting.

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Speaker 13: You know. I've always thought that Micah would be should

447
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Speaker 13: be the highest paid, like highest paid non quarterback in

448
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Speaker 13: the NFL the whole season, And so if that's the case,

449
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Speaker 13: he's got to go last.

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Speaker 12: And he is very.

451
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Speaker 13: Smart and very savvy and business wise, you know, probably

452
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Speaker 13: as well versed as anyone his age and so, and

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Speaker 13: his agent, David Mulligetta, is very good at educating clients

454
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Speaker 13: so they know if you go last, you are the

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Speaker 13: most and so my sense is he was going to

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Speaker 13: be last. I don't know if it's going to be

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Speaker 13: like scrambling around before kickoff like with Dak a couple

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Speaker 13: of years ago or last year whenever that was, but

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Speaker 13: my sense is it's last. And like Aiden Hutchinson, you know,

460
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Speaker 13: is in talks for a new deal with the Lines,

461
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Speaker 13: Maybe that happens and then then Micah goes.

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Speaker 2: Better run organization. The Chiefs are the Eagles.

463
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Speaker 13: Similar better run I don't know. I mean, the Chiefs

464
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Speaker 13: have been doing it for longer, but the Eagles have

465
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Speaker 13: done such an unbelievable job of like it's a good

466
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Speaker 13: mix of keeping veterans that you want to keep, and

467
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Speaker 13: then letting the guys you you're okay, letting go go

468
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Speaker 13: and just replacing them in the draft.

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Speaker 12: Both of those guys do an awesome job.

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Speaker 13: Of drafting players and not needing them to play so.

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Speaker 12: They can learn the right way.

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Speaker 13: I don't know who's better, but this is kind of

473
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Speaker 13: where you want to get to, right, Like, you know,

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Speaker 13: I don't I don't pick records or predictions or whatever,

475
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Speaker 13: but I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe both

476
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Speaker 13: of those teams are gonna have double digit wins this year,

477
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Speaker 13: next year, the year after.

478
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Speaker 12: Like that's just what it's like.

479
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Speaker 13: And you know, that's an unbelievable reality, it really is.

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Speaker 2: We go to the other end of the rainbow. The

481
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Speaker 2: Browns owner Jimmy Haslam came out and said, this draft

482
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Speaker 2: selection of Shadoor Sanders is on his GM Andrew Berry.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of that comment by the owner?

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Speaker 13: So I understand it, and it is right, Like I

485
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Speaker 13: know that this was Andrew Berry's pick. I know it

486
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Speaker 13: was in consultation with his football people as coaches, his personnel.

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Speaker 12: Staff, and then you know the Browns. I mean, it

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Speaker 12: sounds strange to say for because of.

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Speaker 13: The record, but they really are a very well run

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Speaker 13: franchise despite having a quarterback Albatross and Shaun Watson in

491
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Speaker 13: that contract, in that situation and all that, they really

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Speaker 13: do it the right way, and the right way is

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Speaker 13: your football. People make the decisions, the owner empowers them

494
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Speaker 13: and gives the okay, and then you move forward. There's

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Speaker 13: two things that I didn't like about that whole situation.

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Speaker 13: I think one is the quote is being a little

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Speaker 13: bit taken out of context, as in like it's Andrew

498
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Speaker 13: Berry's blame, like he's the GM, like they're.

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Speaker 12: All his picks. So I thought it was fine.

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Speaker 13: I just feels like people are missing the context. The

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Speaker 13: other thing is Shaudor might be good, Like I have

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Speaker 13: no idea and I'm going to go there in a

503
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Speaker 13: couple of days, but we're not going to know this year.

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Speaker 8: We may not know next year.

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Speaker 13: So I don't really understand what it feels like people

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Speaker 13: are blaming Andrew Berry like there is a chance and

507
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Speaker 13: it's you know, non zero percent that Shador Sanders is

508
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Speaker 13: the franchise quarterback for the Browns and it's one of

509
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Speaker 13: the best picks they ever made in franchise history.

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Speaker 12: That is an absolute possibility.

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Speaker 13: He is very talented, So you know, yes it was

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Speaker 13: the GM's pick, but we don't know how it's going

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Speaker 13: to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one thing I wonder about, if

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Speaker 2: it's Dylan Gabriel or shaudor Sanders, is how much of

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Speaker 2: a runway the Browns will give them with two first

517
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Speaker 2: round picks next year. And if you know that, you

518
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: got to fight that urge of do we see enough

519
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: with Shudor or Dylan Gabriel to go let's give them

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00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: another year? Or do you go all in with the

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Speaker 2: two first round picks and try to get you your

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 13: That is a that is the biggest of all the

524
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Speaker 13: things for the Browns this year. And I know they're

525
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Speaker 13: trying to win, and like the actual roster is pretty good.

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Speaker 13: I think Placco, if he starts, could be totally fine.

527
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Speaker 13: But that's the issue. And like I've thought about it

528
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 13: a ton, because like you're on the road alone, all

529
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 13: you do is think about these door key football things, right,

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Speaker 13: I don't it's gonna be hard because like let's say

531
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Speaker 13: it's a struggle, and let's say they're kind of not ready.

532
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Speaker 13: All the fans are gonna care about all the talk

533
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 13: radio and reporters, and Cleveland is a very intense media environment.

534
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 13: All anyone's gonna care about is Blaine community, young guys,

535
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Speaker 13: and it might.

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Speaker 12: Be it might be Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of people in the draft who said

538
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 13: if Dylan Gabriel was six to two, he'd be an

539
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Speaker 13: early pick, which you know, shout out to short guys

540
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Speaker 13: with all of them, I just I don't know how

541
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Speaker 13: you avoid that temptation. But that's the story of their

542
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 13: season for me.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time you had a player get your

544
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: face over something you reported or said?

545
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 12: It does? It almost never happens.

546
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Speaker 13: Because I guess had you know a player sort of

547
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 13: make a snide comment, like maybe once every five years,

548
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 13: but you can never tell if they're joking. What I

549
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 13: try to do is before I do anything, I have

550
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Speaker 13: the conversation, Like, even though it's really fast paced, like

551
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 13: a lot of times, you know you sort of know

552
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 13: what you're gonna hit send on before you do it.

553
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 13: So I try to get to the agent or player

554
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 13: or the GM or the PR guy and just be like,

555
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 13: here's what I have, Just to have the conversation before

556
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 13: it goes public. So like I used to, you know,

557
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 13: first seven or eight years doing this, it used to

558
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 13: happen all the time. Now it almost never happens because

559
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 13: at least people know what to expect.

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00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 12: When I say it on TV or when I hit

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Speaker 12: send on a tweet.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you, Ian, safe travels. Thanks

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00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: for joining us.

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Speaker 13: They got thirty nine on a three point nine more

565
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 13: miles so this this timing was perfect.

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Speaker 12: Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Insider, NFL Networks

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: inside training camp airs every day through August sixth oh.

569
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Speaker 2: He's been to the Bucks, Jenks, Titans, Saints, Bears, Chiefs,

570
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: and he's got the Patriots and the Bills coming up.

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Speaker 2: You can be in camp now. When I worked in

572
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Speaker 2: New York at CNN, and I would go out to

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Speaker 2: the Jets camp and the Giants camps, and you could

574
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Speaker 2: get a sense it was weird. It shouldn't be something

575
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Speaker 2: that's tangible, but like it it felt different. You know,

576
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Speaker 2: the Giants were onto something with parcels.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Jets did have talent. The Jets had the sack exchange,

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Speaker 2: you know, they they but it felt different there. It

580
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Speaker 2: felt like the Giants were professional. They knew what their

581
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Speaker 2: roles were. And you had Belichick or you had Bill

582
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Speaker 2: Parcells and Belichick as your defensive coordinator. It felt like

583
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Speaker 2: they knew that they were going to do something big

584
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Speaker 2: or bigger or special. The Jets were just a fascinating

585
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Speaker 2: group of personalities. You had Mark Gastineaux there, Joe Klecko,

586
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite players, Ken O'Brien, and you just

587
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Speaker 2: you al Tuon. You had talent there, but it's it

588
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Speaker 2: was just a different feeling. It's almost like the Yankees

589
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Speaker 2: and the Mets, where you can have talent, but they

590
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Speaker 2: just don't feel like they're the same or the same

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Speaker 2: run organization.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But being around Mark Gastineau had a Rolls Royce. It

594
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Speaker 2: was dating Brigitte Nielsen, who was did she marry Sylva

595
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: Stallone or were they? I think so they dated, Oh

596
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: my gosh, and it was it was a big deal.

597
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Speaker 2: Like but he was just not liked by his teammates

598
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Speaker 2: because even when I would go out there and you know,

599
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: Marty Lyons, Joe Kleco, it was at Abdul Salaam, like

600
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: these guys knew that you're kind of out there for

601
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Speaker 2: gas to know like they they were like here for

602
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Speaker 2: gas to know, and I go, well, you know, kind

603
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Speaker 2: of because he was a big deal and uh but yeah,

604
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: just to sit down with him, and he had bigger aspirations.

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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: You know, it felt like he wanted to be this

606
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: is before Schwarzenegger, you know, one of those action heroes

607
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Speaker 2: that that's what he was hoping for. Yeah, Pauling, I went.

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Speaker 3: Back to double Check and Mark Gasno has not made

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. And you talked about likability hurting

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Speaker 3: someone's case or behavior after your career. But he had

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Speaker 3: a five year run. He was four time first team

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Speaker 3: All Pro, four years in a row. It's hard not

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Speaker 3: to make the Hall of Fame. He had one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seven sacks and basically a five year span. His

615
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Speaker 3: stats are Hall of Fame. His personality kept him out.

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Speaker 2: It appears, well, didn't he quit the game? I think

617
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Speaker 2: he quit the sport? Was there were there steroid accusations

618
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: that he I want to be fair to him, but

619
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Speaker 2: I'm going off memory with.

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Speaker 3: I've got a couple of articles here that said he

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Speaker 3: retired a little early. He was thirty two years old.

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Speaker 3: Not sure why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Walls may have been closing in

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Speaker 2: on him.

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Speaker 3: He had a three year run with twenty sacks, nineteen sacks,

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Speaker 3: twenty two sacks.

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Speaker 2: It's weird that he was viewed as selfish, like your

628
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: job is to get sacks. But then it felt like

629
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Speaker 2: I always thought that Cleco was a better player. I

630
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Speaker 2: just thought Joe Klecko was sort of an Aaron Donald

631
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Speaker 2: type player. But Mark benefited from that that everybody else

632
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Speaker 2: was doing their job, which allowed Mark to just go

633
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Speaker 2: after the quarterback and he did, and he did it

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Speaker 2: in you know, charismatic style. But it just felt like

635
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Speaker 2: he was viewed as it was the Jets and then

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Speaker 2: it was Mark Gastineau. Whether that's fair or not, but

637
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Speaker 2: that was always the feeling because they had other you know,

638
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Ken O'Brien was a very quiet guy, that Freeman McNeil.

639
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Speaker 2: You know, they had a really good roster and should

640
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Speaker 2: have been better. Yes, Ton, I wonder how.

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Speaker 7: Much I remember watching some of those games that his

642
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Speaker 7: teammates were a little tired of his act or got

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Speaker 7: them in situations where there was one time against the Rams,

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Speaker 7: I guess like a fight broke out and they were

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Speaker 7: all going after him, and it didn't look like the

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Speaker 7: Jets teammates were in any rush to pull the rams

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Speaker 7: off of him from what I saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let me take a break. Got more

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Speaker 2: phone calls coming up. We'll take a break. We'll update

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Speaker 2: our poll results after this.

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Speaker 1: to listen live. Charge your Thursday coming up?

655
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Speaker 2: Who knew? Philip Rivers and Justin Herbert will join us

656
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Speaker 2: on the program. Paulie's all in on the Chargers, kind

657
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: of going to the AMC title game.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Arva always pulls it off.

659
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Speaker 2: Aiden in Utah, Hi, Aiden, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: Heyde Beacon warned money? Uh yeah, Speaking on Paulie being

661
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 14: all in on the Chargers, me and Fritzy have a

662
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 14: part of the face bet. Don't wait Fritzy for Paulie Dewey,

663
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Speaker 14: We do now.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 14: The bet is the Broncos will places higher than the

666
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Speaker 14: Chargers in the a SU West. It's a two for

667
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Speaker 14: one if they don't mean topic out of face.

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Speaker 2: If they do, Todd, You're you're in with Aiden in Utah.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Aiden, let's do this all right. We got

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Speaker 2: a bet Doug in North Carolina. Welcome back, Doug.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 9: You never had to tell you. I was not only

673
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 9: entertained but absolutely fascinated by it. With your conversation yesterday

674
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Speaker 9: with Todd about the Beatle and although I agree with you,

675
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Speaker 9: I sadly think Tom is right about this issue.

676
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Speaker 2: Oh you got a bad phone, Doug break yeah, call back, Doug, Yeah,

677
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: call back like next week or something. Yeah. I did

678
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: hear a little bit of ground support for you that

679
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: the Beatles were overrated. I get it, But I mean,

680
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what the Beatles meant to music,

681
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: mean to music, and it's it's in the eye of

682
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: the beholder, the ear of the beholder. That's all. Just

683
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Speaker 2: telling you how they did it, what they did when

684
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: they did it. You know that's they made an impact

685
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Speaker 2: that will last our generation and the next generation.

686
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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think this is any different than not

687
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Speaker 3: really getting a sports figure that you weren't around for.

688
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what the hubbub was about Johnny Unitas.

689
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: I didn't see him, and when I look at stat

690
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, sixteen touchdowns? What was that about? But when

691
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Speaker 3: people talk about Johnny Unitas or like a young Roger

692
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Speaker 3: Staubach that I kind of missed they talked glowingly, or

693
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Speaker 3: Pete Marrivich, which you know, when I was a kid,

694
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Speaker 3: I just thought this guy scored a bunch of points?

695
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Speaker 3: Was he more than that? And if you didn't see

696
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Speaker 3: it in the phenomenon around it, you can never get it.

697
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: You can research it, but you can't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's but I was young when the Beatles hit,

699
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Speaker 2: when they came over, but I just knew, you know,

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Speaker 2: when they broke up, like it was a huge deal,

701
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: like nightly news, it was a huge deal. And everything

702
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: that happened, what they did in their solo careers. You know,

703
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Speaker 2: we found out that George Harrison kind of the little

704
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Speaker 2: brother there. He wrote some of the best songs, some

705
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Speaker 2: of the best songs in rock and roll history, and

706
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Speaker 2: he couldn't even get you know, they didn't even give

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Speaker 2: him a chance to write songs because Lennon and McCartney

708
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Speaker 2: were so good. And even Ringo Starr is still performing,

709
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Speaker 2: he's in his eighties, still performing. What he did for

710
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: drumming underrated, understated, But you know, I Todd and I

711
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: go back and forth on this he's locked in with

712
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Speaker 2: Hall and Oates and Billy Joel, and I like both

713
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Speaker 2: of those artists, but they don't compare to the Beatles.

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Speaker 7: But I would add to Paul's point, and I think

715
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Speaker 7: he makes a very loud one also, like from your generation,

716
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Speaker 7: you have memories, you know, even if you were just

717
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 7: a young kid, there are memories that are attached to

718
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Speaker 7: certain music and songs. And I think that's part of

719
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Speaker 7: it too. That for me, like if Billy Joel and Hall,

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Speaker 7: notes would not like them as much if they came

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Speaker 7: out now as supposed to write when I was like,

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Speaker 7: you know, a young kid or a teenager. So I

723
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Speaker 7: think or if I saw them the Beatles at the

724
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Speaker 7: at Sullivan Show or American bands then and sybody freaking out,

725
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Speaker 7: maybe I would be you know, affected by things like that.

726
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Speaker 2: Well that's what happened with Elvis. You know, the people

727
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: who saw I didn't see Elvis. I saw Elvis later

728
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: in his career in the late sixties, and that was

729
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: the Elvis wearing the leather jacket, and he seemed like

730
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Speaker 2: pretty cool guy then. But I and i'd see him

731
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Speaker 2: in those you know, campy movies that he would be in.

732
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Speaker 2: But for those who were there of a different generation

733
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Speaker 2: when he happened upon the scene, you know, it's you're

734
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Speaker 2: Jerry Lee Lewis, You're watching Little Richard like you just

735
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: didn't see those things, and I think if you were

736
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Speaker 2: there in the moment, you realized just how important it was.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't get see the Beatles. They didn't tour.

738
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Speaker 2: You just heard the music and it was constant. But

739
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Speaker 2: I'm a huge Beatles fan. But I've read books about him.

740
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: I understand, you know, the complexities, like they made things

741
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: that were complex sounds simple, and that's really hard to

742
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Speaker 2: do when it comes to music. Yes, Paul, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Another sports comp on this would be, if you're under

744
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: forty years old, what do you know about Mike Tyson?

745
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: How do you view Mike Tyson? A guy with some problems,

746
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: a guy was in the Hangover movies. But if you

747
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: were around in the mid and early eighties, the or around,

748
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Speaker 3: Mike Tyson is the baddest man on the planet. It

749
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Speaker 3: was real. I mean, he was as famous and compelling

750
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Speaker 3: as any sports figure there was. But if you missed it,

751
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: you can't soak it in later.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Mike Tyson was where still to this day

753
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Speaker 6: when people say, like, yeah, but he wasn't that great,

754
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, and you're wrong. There's nothing that will ever

755
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Speaker 6: replace that in my mind of he is just the

756
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 6: baddest human being on the planet. But about the Beatles,

757
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 6: like this dude Kyle on Twitter has an interesting point

758
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Speaker 6: because the Beatles as a group were one thing, but

759
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 6: a lot of people believe individually they made their best

760
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Speaker 6: music solo. So like, you know, like John Lennon's solo

761
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Speaker 6: career was phenomenal, Paul McCartney was. You finally got to

762
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Speaker 6: see who George Harrison was when he went solo, and

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Speaker 6: maybe might have been the best songwriter of all of

764
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Speaker 6: the more the most talented musician, you know. So they

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Speaker 6: kind of have a lot of and then Ringo of

766
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Speaker 6: course has gone on to be Ringo, but you have

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Speaker 6: together there's sort of a supergroup, although at the time,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that people realize individually they were all

769
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Speaker 6: great as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like the sum of the parts, but I think

771
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Speaker 2: George Harrison was the one who, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: the further we got away from the Beatles, the greater

773
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Speaker 2: he became. Like I thought his solo career was better

774
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Speaker 2: than McCartney and Lennon's just because he wrote some of

775
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: the greatest music, like songs that you go, golly, that

776
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: sounds like the Beatles would have crushed that. But it

777
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Speaker 2: was George Harrison a concert for Bangladesh. I mean, he

778
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: was involved in a lot of different things, but you know,

779
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: the poor guy's trying to get it. Hey, can I

780
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Speaker 2: write a song? How I got this song? While my

781
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: guitar gently weeps, My sweet lord? Could I Okay? George,

782
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: why don't you just put it over there? George, why

783
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: don't you just leave it over there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

784
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: come here, Yoko, roll me another joint Final Hour on

785
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Speaker 2: the program coming up. That's crazy. Yeah, I know, I know.

786
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: And you see the documentary and how you're writing a

787
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: song in real time. That's what I always find amazing.

788
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: Even the Billie Jewel documentary where he said, you know,

789
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: this song came to me and I wrote it in

790
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. Keith Richards has talked about that like I

791
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: had it and I had to get it out right away,

792
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: and then they go on to be some of the

793
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 2: great songs ever written. Final Hour on this Wednesday, after

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Speaker 2: this