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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, Jacqueline Toberoff is with
Speaker 1: us right now. She is politically activated. She's an author.
Speaker 1: She ran for New York City Council. It's got a
Speaker 1: book coming out on being a supermom. She also writes
Speaker 1: for Human Events and like me, she's a fellow New
Speaker 1: York girl, though I'm a former fellow New Yorker. Jackie.
Speaker 1: Great to have in the show first time. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. So you were actually
Speaker 1: down there earlier this week at the Trump indictment arraignment situation.
Speaker 1: Just tell everybody, you know, what's that like, What was
Speaker 1: the vibe? What was the feel? The vibe was amazing.
Speaker 1: So Gavin Wax and the New York Young Republicans put
Speaker 1: it together. This was their second one. The first was
Speaker 1: in March on the twenty first, I think when news
Speaker 1: first broke today. It was the second one. They had
Speaker 1: Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green as one of the speakers, and
Speaker 1: it was they invited members to their club, so it
Speaker 1: was basically all locals. No one was bust in to riot,
Speaker 1: to arson, to loot, to assault. It was very orderly,
Speaker 1: with a couple of exceptions. It turns out after going
Speaker 1: on to Twitter that New York City council person Shays
Speaker 1: Say was handing out whistles so that agitators could basically
Speaker 1: blow out ear drums of people they're protesting Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 1: But it was very civil, orderly. Everyone was cheering for
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green. And again this is in New York City,
Speaker 1: this is in Manhattan, and there was genuine support. What
Speaker 1: do you think it means now that it's official. I
Speaker 1: mean Trump is indicted, the indictment is out. This is
Speaker 1: really happening. Just start first with I mean, as a
Speaker 1: New Yorker, it must be very weird. I mean this
Speaker 1: is how I feel as a you know, thirty some
Speaker 1: odd year New Yorker feels weird that this native son
Speaker 1: of New York, of Queens no less, became president and
Speaker 1: now he's being pulled back to his hometown to face
Speaker 1: the most absurd charges I've really ever seen in any
Speaker 1: criminal proceeding. Yeah, I think the people that were at
Speaker 1: this protest today. There were plenty of them that were
Speaker 1: in support of Trump, and then there were just plenty
Speaker 1: of them that didn't see how indicting him and arresting
Speaker 1: him would make their lives any better. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a mom of two. I don't know how this improves education.
Speaker 1: I don't know how this improves crime. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this improves the illegal crisis, drug crisis, the homeless encountments.
Speaker 1: So there were plenty of people there that might not
Speaker 1: have necessarily been Trump supporters, but they were certainly not
Speaker 1: in support of what Alvin Brad is doing. Where do
Speaker 1: you think it goes? I mean, I'm just wondering. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's now the possibility the judge will throw the
Speaker 1: whole thing out. I'm sure there'll be a bunch of motions.
Speaker 1: I would bet that it will not be thrown out.
Speaker 1: My assumption is that they're going to let this play
Speaker 1: out and go to a jury. The part of this
Speaker 1: that I have not gotten a single good explanation for
Speaker 1: yet is what do they want? Meaning? If they were
Speaker 1: to get you know, usually you have a plead. This
Speaker 1: is a it's a misdemeanor campaign finance charge right that
Speaker 1: they've elevated to a felony based upon a nonindicted federal
Speaker 1: crime that has nothing to do with the local, local
Speaker 1: state statute at issue about you know, falsifying records or whatever.
Speaker 1: Are they going to try to send him a jail,
Speaker 1: because I mean, what, really is this going to turn
Speaker 1: into one hundred thousand dollars fine for Trump? Is like
Speaker 1: buying a soda for the rest of us? Like, what
Speaker 1: are they think this is going to do? We know
Speaker 1: the politics of it, but legally it just feels like
Speaker 1: the whole thing is just crazy. I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: think it's so clear that these people just hate this country.
Speaker 1: And I saw that Leezeldon put out a tweet and
Speaker 1: he said that they are hurting America. That's the point
Speaker 1: that they're hurting America. They don't like America. This is
Speaker 1: this isn't a big deal to them. I'm unsure whether
Speaker 1: they took his photo for a monk shop, but then
Speaker 1: there was news that they weren't going to They want
Speaker 1: him disappeared. It feels like they want him in Siberia.
Speaker 1: They don't want even though this is happening in Manhattan
Speaker 1: and there naturally has so much attention on it. It's
Speaker 1: almost like they just want to they just want to
Speaker 1: disappear him. It's it's really just perverted and sick. And
Speaker 1: I mean thirty four counts. What are these thirty four counts?
Speaker 1: I mean you've been You're from New York City. You
Speaker 1: know what's going on here. I mean, rapists and murderers
Speaker 1: are roaming free. I want to ask you next about
Speaker 1: how the city, how the city is doing, or we're
Speaker 1: going to get into how Eric Adams is doing the
Speaker 1: latest just feel of walking around on the streets there
Speaker 1: and you know how how we're going to get to
Speaker 1: to all that. But but just on on this Trump issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you get the sense right now? I
Speaker 1: mean you were there, I know, with a bunch of
Speaker 1: young Republicans club members in New York City. Is it
Speaker 1: just Trump for you? Or Trump for you already? Like
Speaker 1: it's you don't even want to see the primary play out?
Speaker 1: Have you already decided in your mind? Or do you
Speaker 1: want to see I was voting for I mean I
Speaker 1: voted for Trump before. I'm one hundred percent voting for
Speaker 1: Trump again. I unlike some of the other people, I
Speaker 1: have no issue with dessentists I just don't know. We
Speaker 1: have Trump. Things were great under Trump. I just don't
Speaker 1: understand why we would go towards descantists. So I'm already
Speaker 1: committed to who I'm voting for. UM. I think really
Speaker 1: surprisingly that the the Democrats are counting on these suburban
Speaker 1: moms to reject Donald Trump. I think what's going to
Speaker 1: happen is the urban moms are going to reject the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I I see such a repulsion here from moms again
Speaker 1: about this, the left's attack on women, the crime school.
Speaker 1: I just I really think we're going to be surprised
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Speaker 1: I left New York. Everyone listening to this knows that,
Speaker 1: and I live in Florida. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: reasons why people could go back to the many, many
Speaker 1: shows I've done talking about this. But I still love
Speaker 1: New York and I'm still rooting for New York and
Speaker 1: I haven't ruled out that one day I would at
Speaker 1: least spend part of if not, you know, permanently, my
Speaker 1: my life back up, How is it going under Mayor
Speaker 1: Eric Adams? Like, honestly, not just I know under de Blasio?
Speaker 1: The answer was, he's awful top to bottom. He does
Speaker 1: nothing right, He's an imbecile. Okay, that was de Blasio.
Speaker 1: What's the honest assessment of Mayor Eric Adams in New
Speaker 1: York City right now? Like, walk me the honest assessment.
Speaker 1: The honest assessment is Eric Adams is a hundred times
Speaker 1: worse than to Blasio. He was pitched as a moderate.
Speaker 1: This guy, let me tell you something. From the very beginning,
Speaker 1: he ran his campaign on race and from the basement,
Speaker 1: no one pushed back on anything. He barely made it
Speaker 1: through his primary, and he has been an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1: So I have some numbers here. Within the past two years,
Speaker 1: crime across the seven majors is up forty five point
Speaker 1: forty percent. Okay, rape rape is up six point five percent,
Speaker 1: and Graham larceny auto is up almost one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: ninety three point five percent. It's a disaster. Arrests are
Speaker 1: down fifty two percent of all of the arrests have
Speaker 1: been downgraded. All of the crimes are downgraded. We are
Speaker 1: emptying prisons. We have, as I said before, a homeless crisis.
Speaker 1: We have illegal weed shops sprouting up on every other block.
Speaker 1: It's like Starbucks. They're ubiquitous. What else I mean? We
Speaker 1: have outmigration, we have a wrecking ball to the educational complex.
Speaker 1: It's a disaster. It's really a disaster. I mean the
Speaker 1: highlight was the rally this morning. It was a disaster.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand this part of the equation. Right,
Speaker 1: you're still in New York. It's eighty twenty Democrat to
Speaker 1: Republican in New York City, and in that's across the
Speaker 1: whole city. In Manhattan, I think it's more like ninety ten. Right,
Speaker 1: It's Manhattan has become an enplay of comming nonsense. Sadly,
Speaker 1: it's where I was born and raised. You two, and
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, what do the people who voted What are
Speaker 1: the Democrats who voted for Adams say to you, or like,
Speaker 1: what is the conversation like with him? Do they think
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job. Well, firstly, voter turnout, as
Speaker 1: you know, was abysmal. It was very low. So this
Speaker 1: is what you get with very low voter turnout. Again,
Speaker 1: he was pitched by the media as a moderate, so
Speaker 1: people maybe shrugged it off and thought, look, this guy
Speaker 1: worked with the NYPD. Finally we're going to have someone
Speaker 1: who's tough. I'm crime. Don't forget we had some wackos
Speaker 1: running against him. I mean we had Maya Wiley, we
Speaker 1: had someone who was head of the sanitation. This is
Speaker 1: on the heels of garbage piles up to the sky.
Speaker 1: It was a disaster. So we have Adams, and I
Speaker 1: think that people are into camps. There are the people
Speaker 1: that are deluded and they think everything is great and
Speaker 1: they live in their doorman buildings on the Upper West Side.
Speaker 1: And then there are the people that are really galvanizing.
Speaker 1: And again I hate to go back to this, but
Speaker 1: it really is. It's the moms you know, things get
Speaker 1: real in the field once you have kids. And really
Speaker 1: there's a common phenomenator. Everyone wants a good school and
Speaker 1: everyone wants to feel safe. And we have neither of
Speaker 1: those two things. Under Adams, everything is worse. The priority
Speaker 1: is always criminals over constituents. What is he focused on?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just amazing to me because you know
Speaker 1: New York it's when and then this is true because
Speaker 1: you know, I do a radio show and we're on
Speaker 1: basically five hundred stations or on base really all over
Speaker 1: the country. Right, But we always say that New York
Speaker 1: was the place that the whole country looked to for
Speaker 1: the Juliani crime miracle turnaround situation that then was replicated
Speaker 1: in terms of the policing and the strategy in a
Speaker 1: lot of other places across the country. Right. So, because
Speaker 1: it worked in America's biggest city in the nineties, going
Speaker 1: from over two thousand murders in nineteen ninety two three
Speaker 1: hundred murders by the early two thousands something like that,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you know the low four hundreds. Because of that,
Speaker 1: people will understand that New York is this symbol right
Speaker 1: for what could be possible, And Adams was the one
Speaker 1: thing that I mean, I was still living in the
Speaker 1: city at the time. I remember the one thing that
Speaker 1: everybody was saying, other than you know, COVID and Triple
Speaker 1: Mask and be lunatics, was this guy needs to clean
Speaker 1: up the city in terms of crime, also in terms
Speaker 1: of like sanitational the streets by the way, the city
Speaker 1: was getting dirtier. It really was that. You know, they'd
Speaker 1: cut the sanitation budget, as you know, And it seems
Speaker 1: to me like all he has to do is look
Speaker 1: at what has worked in the past and have a
Speaker 1: maniacal focus as mayor on that, on bringing down these numbers,
Speaker 1: and he'd be not just a good mayor, a national
Speaker 1: hero and a likely Democrat presidential contender in the future.
Speaker 1: It's so obvious. What is he unwilling to do it,
Speaker 1: or is he not capable of doing it because of
Speaker 1: the realities of the Democrat Party around him today or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's it. I really don't think the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party believes at this point that cleaning up the city,
Speaker 1: which includes literally cleaning it up as well as making
Speaker 1: it safer, is a value that they share with the
Speaker 1: rest of us. I just I think that that's the
Speaker 1: real disconnect. I don't think he would be accepted in
Speaker 1: those circles if he cleaned up the city at all.
Speaker 1: I think he'd probably lose his value to the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: I mean, right here in city Council, we just had
Speaker 1: a group I've forgot how many they are a number,
Speaker 1: but they're part of now the Progressive Caucus. They were
Speaker 1: literally kicking out Democrats from city Council that did not
Speaker 1: agree to completely abolish the NYPD. So, I mean, to
Speaker 1: your point, I don't know if cleaning up the city
Speaker 1: would secure him any higher office within the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: at all. Well, to do it, you'd have to lock
Speaker 1: more people up. You'd have to reincarceer rate instead of
Speaker 1: d incarcer rate, which has been the mantra of so
Speaker 1: many Democrat controlled cities for a long time now. And
Speaker 1: I think that the activist and donor class of the Democrats,
Speaker 1: whether in New York or in any major left wing
Speaker 1: enclave across the country, they're just unwilling for that to
Speaker 1: happen right now. Maybe at some level it's there's a stubbornness.
Speaker 1: They don't want to admit that they were wrong through
Speaker 1: the policy change, right, But also I mean to your
Speaker 1: point about the people who live on the Upper West
Speaker 1: Side in the doorman buildings, and I know plenty of them,
Speaker 1: and so do you. I think that they would rather
Speaker 1: people in poorer neighborhoods live in less safety, greater jeopardy
Speaker 1: of suffering from crime, including violent crime, as long as
Speaker 1: they themselves, meaning the rich people get to feel good
Speaker 1: about themselves and are getting the virtue signaling points in
Speaker 1: their peer group that matters more to them. And that's
Speaker 1: the calculation they make. A hundred percent, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, look at cnpole just came
Speaker 1: out eighty percent of New York City residents say crime
Speaker 1: is a serious issue. Eighty percent. So going back, New
Speaker 1: York City is eight to one Democrat to Republican and
Speaker 1: eighty percent or saying crime is a serious issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like this should be the most obvious, the
Speaker 1: most obvious pathway forward laid out for a may or
Speaker 1: for administration you could ever find. But also, you know,
Speaker 1: recently in the city, what was it just over the weekend,
Speaker 1: there was that and I know that garage. I've actually
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in that area, you know,
Speaker 1: near in between Hudson Yards and actually where my old
Speaker 1: studio used to be. And so I've just I've been
Speaker 1: around there a lot. I know, I haven't, you know,
Speaker 1: not like super familiar with the garage, but I know
Speaker 1: it by sight. And that guy who confronted somebody who
Speaker 1: was coming clearly a career criminal with I think over
Speaker 1: twenty arrests already, twenty arrests. I mean, you think by
Speaker 1: arrest number five you might start to question some of
Speaker 1: your life choices. But twenty arrests and the guy pulls
Speaker 1: out a gun shoots him. It's amazing. The guy Musa
Speaker 1: I believe was his name, the employee he turned the
Speaker 1: gun on the individual shot him after being shot, So
Speaker 1: he shot the criminal. It's remarkable. He's not dead. And
Speaker 1: he spent the weekend chained to his bed at Bellevue
Speaker 1: under attempted murder charges. Because Alvin Bragg is a pro
Speaker 1: criminal psychopath. I don't know how else to put it,
Speaker 1: Like what I know, he dropped the charges and we're
Speaker 1: also to think that's fine. What kind of maniac charges
Speaker 1: the I mean, the fact pattern was very clear. An
Speaker 1: employee of the place, he didn't bring the gut in there.
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to steal anything Like, it's just, well,
Speaker 1: how do you live with that? How do you deal
Speaker 1: with that? Jokes on Musa, he thought that, you know,
Speaker 1: defending himself was some sort of right. It's not here
Speaker 1: in New York City. It really Again, it's it's just
Speaker 1: pro criminal. Every single policy favors that of a criminal
Speaker 1: over law abiding residents. It's it's really it's terrifying. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: it's really terrifying. You don't you go to see It's
Speaker 1: interesting me because you're actually a lot of people talk
Speaker 1: about like, oh, we're gonna do you run for city
Speaker 1: council in New York. You're involved in politics in New York.
Speaker 1: So just to be clear to everybody, you're not you know,
Speaker 1: you're not a mom who's saying maybe somebody else is
Speaker 1: gonna pick up the tours and try to do something.
Speaker 1: You're you're actually trying to charge up that hill in
Speaker 1: this nest of very wealthy commies in New York City.
Speaker 1: Like you're actually trying to charge up that hill. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I want to come back to that actually and ask
Speaker 1: you a little bit about the internal political dynamics and
Speaker 1: running for city council. And I'll maybe if I remember
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Speaker 1: so you you tried to run Jackie in New York
Speaker 1: City for the council there, and how how is that?
Speaker 1: By the way, are you shocked when you because you
Speaker 1: must be coming across the the Democrat positions and everything
Speaker 1: because city council, I feel like they have to fake
Speaker 1: the Democrats have to fake people out at the state level,
Speaker 1: not so much in New York and California, but you
Speaker 1: know they have to they have to sound not completely
Speaker 1: insane um just because of the national level profile those
Speaker 1: kinds of roles as well. But city council, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you go to a Democrat enclave. I remember
Speaker 1: the college. I went to the town. The town council
Speaker 1: declared that it was a nuclear weapon free zone in
Speaker 1: the town, like they actually passed the resolution. Like you know,
Speaker 1: these people can be totally wacko. How wacko is the
Speaker 1: New York City Council. The New York City Council is
Speaker 1: freaking wacko. I mean, it's ground zero of wacko. The
Speaker 1: good news for me when I was running is I
Speaker 1: knew nothing. I was never politically active before. I had
Speaker 1: no basis. It's not like I tried this a couple
Speaker 1: times and had any sort of clue. I went in
Speaker 1: guns blazing figuratively, and I truly it was one of
Speaker 1: the best experiences of my life. I would encourage anyone
Speaker 1: who is sick of the policies and what's outside their
Speaker 1: front door, actually inside their front door, to run. It's
Speaker 1: beyond me why people look for others to lead them.
Speaker 1: And you know, even going back again to this rally,
Speaker 1: all the people that were criticizing Gavin Watts, at least
Speaker 1: he did something. I mean, people need to stop waiting
Speaker 1: to be told what to do. You really need to
Speaker 1: be told by someone to take off a mask after
Speaker 1: three years, you know, you know, people need to exhibit
Speaker 1: some sort of personal agency in their lives. Are you
Speaker 1: coming across Democrat moms who are red pilled at this point?
Speaker 1: I mean, are you coming across Democrat moms who realize
Speaker 1: that they are casting votes and have been casting votes
Speaker 1: for their own kids, especially if they're boys, they're teenagers,
Speaker 1: to be more likely to get, you know, beaten with
Speaker 1: a bottle on their way home by some lunatic. More
Speaker 1: likely that they themselves, as women, maybe assaulted on the
Speaker 1: Street's more likely that there'll be some maniac relieving himself
Speaker 1: on their front door wherever they live in Manhattan, Like
Speaker 1: this is what goes on in New York. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, everyone can just look at the
Speaker 1: headlines and look at the reality. There are there Democrat
Speaker 1: moms who are being red pilled. They're freaking attacking me.
Speaker 1: They stopped me on the street. Anyone that lives in
Speaker 1: my district that recognizes me from when I ran, or
Speaker 1: that follows me on Instagram, they attack me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I look, I'm a Republican. I've always been a Republican.
Speaker 1: In my house. It was when we were growing up,
Speaker 1: who is more Republican? We never had those awkward family
Speaker 1: dinners or anything like that, so I never thought it
Speaker 1: was weird to be a Republican. Quite frankly. That being said,
Speaker 1: I know my audience, and Democrats seem to think that
Speaker 1: everyone is their audience. They always assume I'm one of them,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not one of them. But in
Speaker 1: any event, anytime I'm walking home from school or I'm
Speaker 1: going to pick up drop off and I run into someone,
Speaker 1: the first thing they say is, I can't believe I
Speaker 1: voted for this person. I don't even care which Republican
Speaker 1: is running, I'm voting for him or her. They are
Speaker 1: completely red pilled. I think there was the death knell
Speaker 1: of CRT critical race theory that really did it for them.
Speaker 1: Plenty of these parents were believe it or not, okay masking,
Speaker 1: they were even okay vaxing. It was really the CRT
Speaker 1: in schools. They just they've had it. They've had it,
Speaker 1: and of course the crime. How can you fix the
Speaker 1: schools the public'sool system. I mean to what we talked
Speaker 1: about before. In New York City. You have all these
Speaker 1: people and I know them and you know them. We
Speaker 1: grew up around them who will defend the public school
Speaker 1: system like their life depends on it. And then you'll
Speaker 1: be like, where do your kids go to school? And
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I can send them to a sixty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars year private school obviously. Yeah. Wait, why you
Speaker 1: say the public school system is great, and you love
Speaker 1: teachers unions, but your kids. You know, one of the
Speaker 1: great moments of hypocrisy, if you remember, back to the
Speaker 1: back to the early in the Obama administration, was when
Speaker 1: then President Obama was on board with cutting funding for
Speaker 1: DC charter schools. If you remember this, so all these kids,
Speaker 1: including a lot of minority kids, who were doing phenomenally
Speaker 1: well in publicly funded schools, just with a different approach
Speaker 1: and not as beholden to the teachers unions, etc. He
Speaker 1: was gonna cut funding to them, or you know, he
Speaker 1: was favorable too, I should say, cutting funding to them.
Speaker 1: And this was in the district of Columbia, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's a federal, federal protect it. And his kids
Speaker 1: were going to Sidwell Friends or whatever, which at the
Speaker 1: time was forty five thousand dollars a year. And everybody
Speaker 1: looked at this like, yep, this is this is democrats.
Speaker 1: This is what they do. It's absolutely true in New
Speaker 1: York City. So how do you fix the public school system.
Speaker 1: I don't think you do fix the public school system
Speaker 1: unless you break up the teachers unions. They are completely
Speaker 1: political animals. They donate ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 1: the time to Democrats, Democrat candidates or Democrat causes. They
Speaker 1: are They're a pack. I mean, they are a political
Speaker 1: entity and they need to be completely broken up. That's
Speaker 1: the only way you fix public school education. Like even
Speaker 1: on the at the city council level, you know how
Speaker 1: how much of an influence? Well, actually a better question
Speaker 1: would be even for the mayor's race. For example, could
Speaker 1: you be elected mayor of New York City if the
Speaker 1: teachers unions mobilize against you? I mean, realistically, is it possible?
Speaker 1: I I think it is possible. So you know, there
Speaker 1: are fifty one members of City Council creating this body,
Speaker 1: and they basically they have a lot of influence over
Speaker 1: the mayor. The mayor like for example, Mayor Giuliani, he
Speaker 1: knew how to rule the city council. Mayor Adams does not.
Speaker 1: And within the purview of city council is weighing in
Speaker 1: on all local agencies such as the NYPD and the
Speaker 1: Department of Education. So city Council has a big say
Speaker 1: in education and Mayor Adams is ultimately the one presiding
Speaker 1: over it. Again, this educational failure is his. He also
Speaker 1: installed one of the Banks brothers. What is his name,
Speaker 1: David Banks, one of his longtime friends. It's a really
Speaker 1: weird It's kind of like Tammany Hall. You have Philip Banks,
Speaker 1: who is the Deputy mayor. It was like this newly
Speaker 1: created post for him. And then you have Philip. Then
Speaker 1: you have Philip Banks's brother, David Banks, who is now head.
Speaker 1: He's the Chancellor of Education. And all three two Banks
Speaker 1: brothers and Eric Adams go way back. It's a very
Speaker 1: strange relationship. Can I be saying this anyway? It's a
Speaker 1: strange relationship, and one of them is presiding over the
Speaker 1: educational situation that we have and it's a disaster. So
Speaker 1: New York City taxpayers spend the most out of any
Speaker 1: person in the nation, twenty eight thousand dollars per public
Speaker 1: school student annually, and the prize is being in the
Speaker 1: bottom half of the nation for reading and writing. That's
Speaker 1: what we get, twenty eight thousand dollars. That's before you've
Speaker 1: taken any into consideration anything else special meets children, it's
Speaker 1: much more. But yeah, it's amazing because you think about what,
Speaker 1: let's call it thirty grand just to make it a
Speaker 1: round number. If people could pick where they wanted to
Speaker 1: put their dollars of thirty thousand dollars a year for
Speaker 1: purely educational purposes for their kids. What that would do
Speaker 1: to the system, And you know, I've seen it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, do you know. Mike Zernovich really really smart, interesting,
Speaker 1: interesting guy, you know Mike. I mean, he's fiery right,
Speaker 1: like he'll say whatever's on his mind, but he has
Speaker 1: some very interesting thoughts, you know, he tweeted out recently,
Speaker 1: look at what we've done on meaning the country has
Speaker 1: done on constitutional and concealed carry issues, effectively expanding dramatically
Speaker 1: the ability of law. And there was a time not
Speaker 1: long ago, twenty years ago, when that seemed crazy, like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what do you mean, We're just lucky
Speaker 1: they're not taking all of our guns, right, But the
Speaker 1: work is done at the local level. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what's so interesting. That's why one of the reason
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you, because you look at
Speaker 1: things like school choice. School choice that works locally in
Speaker 1: a city in particular, or even in one state, provides
Speaker 1: a model for other places around the country. And this
Speaker 1: is what Rohnda Santis down in Florida is obviously trying
Speaker 1: to do with the schools well with everything, which is
Speaker 1: provide a model of governance that other Republican states can follow.
Speaker 1: I know you can't do that, generally speaking in New
Speaker 1: York because of the political makeup, but it does feel
Speaker 1: like any room to experiment with the New York school
Speaker 1: system that just shows what works and shows how much
Speaker 1: the current system doesn't work could have effect. Right other
Speaker 1: places look at and SAC which is why they hate obviously,
Speaker 1: it's why they hate charter schools, and Harlem Success Academy
Speaker 1: comes under attack from the left, which is insane. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you the truth, though, there's a big issue that
Speaker 1: no one wants to discuss regarding school choice, specifically here
Speaker 1: in New York City, and that is that private schools
Speaker 1: have lost their independence. You have big government, you now
Speaker 1: have big education. The truth of the matter is many
Speaker 1: of these private schools, if you go onto their website,
Speaker 1: they have opted into accreditation and what that means is
Speaker 1: that they are beholden to public school rules. So when
Speaker 1: we talk about school choice, we really need to understand
Speaker 1: this shouldn't be a Republican talking point. There actually has
Speaker 1: to be a choice, and quite frankly, here in New
Speaker 1: York City, there is no choice. Moms. Here are the
Speaker 1: choices for you. You can go to public school, or
Speaker 1: you can spend fifty to sixty thousand on a private
Speaker 1: school and have it at like a public school. Well,
Speaker 1: one thing that I do know is that even my own,
Speaker 1: my own grammar school which I won't name, but people
Speaker 1: could figure it out pretty easily. I talked to people
Speaker 1: recently about it because I got a tour of it,
Speaker 1: and they've spent I walked past the school. This is
Speaker 1: actually kind of funny. I walked past the school during COVID,
Speaker 1: just randomly. I was up on the upperas side visiting
Speaker 1: visiting a friend, and my science teacher from when I
Speaker 1: was a kid just happened. She still teaches there, So
Speaker 1: we're going back like thirty years or something. Now still
Speaker 1: teaches there, and she, which is crazier I think about.
Speaker 1: She says like, Oh, you've got to see this game
Speaker 1: in this whole tour, and it's amazing what they've done.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have spent tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember we played basketball in the lunch
Speaker 1: room where we also had our school play. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: We had one room that was for our gymnasium. They'd
Speaker 1: roll tables out for our lunch, and now they've got
Speaker 1: like an amphitheater. It looks like something out of Harvard.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this would be amazing. And I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, the bank roll would have to
Speaker 1: be pretty big to be able to send my son
Speaker 1: here one day. But I thought about it, and I
Speaker 1: talked to somebody who has a kid there. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's like, it's communists now, woke d ei transagenda. I'm like, transagenda,
Speaker 1: communist stuff. It's sixty k a year yep, for grammar school.
Speaker 1: This is really this is the crux of it. When
Speaker 1: people discuss school choice, there has to be a choice,
Speaker 1: and right now there unfortunately, there really isn't a choice. Also,
Speaker 1: a lot of the schools are the private schools are
Speaker 1: looking to unionize. That will be it, that will be
Speaker 1: the death knell to the private school. I hadn't even
Speaker 1: I hadn't even heard that. Really, that's yeah, little Oh
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I'm not going to name them, but they're
Speaker 1: quite a few, you know, I just I have to ask.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I was gonna say, can we
Speaker 1: close on a on a hopeful note here, Jackie. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's really possible today, given what's going on
Speaker 1: with the country. But what keeps you there? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean because because I used I used to talk.
Speaker 1: I was a I'm gonna be here when the last
Speaker 1: skyscraper crumbles and and the and the you know, the
Speaker 1: hammer and sickle is flying over Central Park like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be here, damn it, I'm not. And then eventually
Speaker 1: during COVID, I was just like you, the people, not
Speaker 1: the administration. I was like the people that live here
Speaker 1: and vote here in Manhattan, not sat N Island, not
Speaker 1: you know, Nassau County in Manhattan are too crazy. I
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. I'm out. I regretted it one day.
Speaker 1: Since are you thinking about it? Are you there? Are
Speaker 1: you actually in it to win it till the end?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not seating New York City. Wow, look
Speaker 1: at that. No, I'm not not gonna abandon it. I
Speaker 1: really do. I think we can win it back, and
Speaker 1: why should give it to them? I love it so much?
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing. I love New York so much,
Speaker 1: and I just love you know, it makes me so
Speaker 1: sad that that they've done this to that city and
Speaker 1: the people who say, oh, it's really not that bad
Speaker 1: all this stuff, that really is actually, especially when you
Speaker 1: understand when you've lived in another place and you see
Speaker 1: what your tax rate is Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada, you
Speaker 1: know a bunch of them, and then you realize that
Speaker 1: not only are you going through this stuff in New
Speaker 1: York City and paying incredibly high cost of living, the
Speaker 1: highest cost of living really in the country, you are
Speaker 1: paying the city government for the privilege of being there
Speaker 1: and the state government for for them to basically spit
Speaker 1: in your face and act like maniacs and you know,
Speaker 1: suck at everything. I don't know what else to say,
Speaker 1: like it's too much, but you're you're not You're not
Speaker 1: getting You are a honey badger in New York City.
Speaker 1: You just don't give a what. You are not going
Speaker 1: to abandon it. And I respect that so much. Jackie.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you on social and
Speaker 1: look at what you're up to on with the columns,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Yeah, firstly, thank you so much. I really
Speaker 1: had fun. You can go to Instagram at Jacqueline. For NYC,
Speaker 1: that's j A c q u E l I n
Speaker 1: E f O r N YC. Same thing for my website.
Speaker 1: On Twitter, I'm at j A c q u E
Speaker 1: t N Y I wrote it down. What did I
Speaker 1: write down? I think it's ny something like that on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And you can follow me on Human Events, the Manhattan
Speaker 1: Dot Press and that's right. And when your book comes out,
Speaker 1: come and come and talk about the book on the show.
Speaker 1: So we're for you on that one. That's great. Save
Speaker 1: New York City. Let me know how that goes, all right, Jackie,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Great to have you