WEBVTT - "I DIED AND CAME BACK TO LIFE" 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.920 Did you say you died for like a second? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.439 I would say I died for like a second four times. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.680 I'm trying to be good about like living towards my 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.600 discomfort because I think that's the way you grow as 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:12.240 a person. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:19.840 And it has resulted and you dying. Steve. Well, Hello, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:21.119 how are you? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.440 Steve? 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:23.640 Yeah? 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.640 Right, pull of corn bread? 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.440 You said you're eating some corn bread. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.160 Yeah, some corn bread. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.320 It's just corn bread. Or are there any like meats 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.240 going along with that or simply the side of corn bread? 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.280 It is straight up corn bread with corn in it. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.080 There's corn in the corn bread. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:48.720 There's corn in the corn bread. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:53.000 Yet I feel like corn bread doesn't typically have corn 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:53.680 in it. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:01.040 I mean I just like corn, I guess. And that's 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:02.680 been a moisture so it's not as dry. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.920 Really, Yeah, trying to get great. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.000 It's like a Jiffy box, like one of those sixty 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:13.840 cent boxes. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.640 Steve It says here, you want to talk about a 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.000 near death experience that you had recently. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.240 Uh. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.760 Yeah, I passed out while I was free diving and 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.240 my heart stopped four times. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:27.240 Mm hmm. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.600 While you were free diving, so like diving into like 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.279 into a pool. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:34.200 I was at a spring. 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:40.399 Mm hm m hm uh. And is free diving in 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.840 activity that you regularly do. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.160 I had been doing it for probably like four months, 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.200 so I was just starting out. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:54.520 Mhmm. What made you want to get into free diving 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:55.200 in the first place. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.200 Well, it was kind of a way you confront a fear. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:06.280 I'm extremely afraid of drownings. I wanted to learn how 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.080 to confront that by getting better at holding my breath 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:09.960 and something underwater. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.919 I like that. Are you a guy who typically if 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.519 something if you have a problem or something like that 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.520 going on, you like to confront it head on? 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.919 I used I used to not be, but now I am. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.120 I'm trying to be good about like living towards my 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.080 discomfort because I think that's the way you grow as 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:30.480 a person. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.799 I like that. I like that you did that and 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:41.480 it has resulted and you dying. It sounds like did 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.400 you did you say you died for like a second? 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.760 I would say I died for like a second four times? 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.760 So how high up were you when you were diving 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:54.600 into the spring? 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.480 How high up was I? 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.399 What do you mean? Well? 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.440 You you would you use a high dive right or 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:02.959 free dive? 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.720 You said, yeah, you're just going underwater. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.840 So I was at like, oh, oh okay. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.840 All right, so it's like you put on like scuba 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:14.440 gear and shit. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.680 Yeah, but I think you're just holding your breath. There's 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.079 there's no gear involved. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.880 Oh okay, so it was deep sea diving, but just 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.040 at the spring. Yeah, you holding your breath. How long 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:28.680 were you into. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.519 The water for you, around thirty seconds. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:33.640 It's a long time. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.960 Yeah, I thought it wasn't, but it is a long time. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.280 Were you alone? Did you have people around you who 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.080 would like be there in case if any safety mishaps happened? 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.800 Well, see that's the thing. I was being really really 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.279 stupid and I was alone, and also didn't tell anyone. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:54.520 Where I was. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:56.720 You were completely alone. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.880 I mean there were just by standards around the spring, 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.040 but yeah. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:03.640 I was alone. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.800 So give me a play by a play here of 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.360 what happens. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:16.280 So I don't actually remember exactly what happened, so everything 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:22.400 I know is from what the bystanders told us later. Basically, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.600 I did a dive and came up and it looked 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.160 like I was in trouble. Then I passed out and 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.440 started to think. Some guy pulled me out and pulled 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.400 me to shore and They checked for a pulse and 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.560 I didn't have any, so they started CPR, got my 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.240 heart started. They turned me on my side to make 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.039 sure there was no water in my lungs, and there wasn't, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.640 and then they brought over an AED, one of those 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.039 like electronic defibrillators, and it shocked me three times until 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.320 I was finally breathing on my own again, and then 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.240 an ambulance came it took me to the hospital. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:05.479 So I'm very interested in this because you've established, even 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:11.360 before this happened, that you went through some transitional period 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.840 where you were not a guy who liked to sort 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.359 of seize the day, take life head on. But you 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.039 became that guy. And an experience like this, a near 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.680 death experience, this is the kind of thing that sets 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.280 people off, you would think, into wanting to make more 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.719 of their lives. But you were already on that kick. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:42.960 So I'm wondering, Yeah, how did this accident further contribute 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.279 to this life kick that you were on? I'm going 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.479 to start taking things head on. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.600 It kind of made me realize I was taking things 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.279 a bit too head on, Like I was trying to 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:05.400 seize the day a bit too much, and realizing the 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.640 risk and kind of ignoring it and doing things that 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.640 I knew better that I shouldn't do. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.200 M So, how long ago did this happen? 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.039 This happened last October, So this is five months ago? 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:25.200 Okay? And uh in this in these past five months, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:31.000 have you been doing anything, uh that you would that 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:36.719 you would consider to be in the category of seize 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.240 the day activities? 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.680 Well, I've been going through extensive testing of my heart, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.640 so I haven't really had the ability to, but I 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.400 don't think I would want to if I could. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:58.840 Where do your thoughts lie surrounding life in general at 0:06:58.839 --> 0:06:59.279 this point? 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.760 Well, after this, I feel a lot more comfortable about death, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.720 if that makes any sense at all, because for me, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:15.320 death was like a light switch, Like I don't remember 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.840 the entire experience of you know, passing out, Like the 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.000 last thing I remember is standing on a ledge getting 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.400 ready to do my last dive, and then like the 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.400 next day in the hospital, I started to come to 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:32.520 and realize where I was. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:42.720 So you've gotten more comfortable with the idea of dying. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.920 Death in general. I think I'm still afraid of like 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.360 the process of dying. But since I was not even 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.480 able to you know realize I was dying. It was 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:58.320 really kind of peaceful for me, not for anyone around me, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.600 especially you know, my family, but for me, it was 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.880 kind of comforting to know that, you know, you're just 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.840 gone and that's it. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.000 Right, because you didn't have much time to freak out 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.360 about it or even think about it just happened. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:23.480 Yeah, It's an interesting situation where everything I know about 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.600 that sort of experience I've had to learn through the 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.960 trauma of my family. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:30.040 How so. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:39.520 Well, that whole day of realizing what happened, I had 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.640 to learn through what my mother and father said and 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.520 what my girlfriend said about the situation and what they 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:54.840 went through. Since you know, it's I'd have no concept 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.360 of anything that happened in that entire. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.840 Day, right, And while in a weird way it was 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.760 a little peaceful for you, it must have been very 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.040 stressful for your family. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:18.080 Yeah, especially my girlfriend. I arrived at the hospital as 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:23.480 a John Doe. They couldn't identify me. And my girlfriend 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:30.840 is a medical student, so she in her program, rotates 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.800 through a bunch of the hospital sites around the area, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.360 and she happens to be at that hospital in that 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.000 department and walked in and saw me and basically was like, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.760 what the fuck are you doing here? 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.200 Really, she just happened upawn you at So she was 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.480 at the hospital before she even knew that you were there. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.120 She just walked in on you. She's just doing her 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.600 medical school rounds and then just walks in on her boyfriends. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.240 It like almost dead in one of the rooms. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.400 Yeah, so's she's an X ray student. So her team 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:19.960 got an order for a John Doe suspected drowning with syncope. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.120 She said at the time that she walked by and 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:27.000 it was a huge commotion with people and then she said, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.240 you know, well I'll come back later, and when she did, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.280 she realized it was me and said she couldn't really 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:31.800 believe it. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:33.920 That's fucking crazy. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:43.120 Yeah, it's a little terrifying that first, you know, I 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.959 want to say, like six or so hours, like all 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.040 I could answer any question was with my name, so 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.679 like I didn't even recognize who she was. And as 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.600 soon as she told the doctors that she knew who 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.360 I was, you know, they start pouncing on her for 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.360 any bit of information that she can be they can 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.280 get from her. And it was a bad time. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:13.240 And oh man, that's uh, that's very wild. I mean, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.800 I mean, yeah, what would you even what would have 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.800 even happened? Like I'm trying to think of, like how 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.800 they would even know to if you're in a place 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.160 where you're not in the right mind to provide any 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.960 information about yourself. Like how long would it have been 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:34.480 before your family would even have known that there was 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.880 anything going on? If they weren't able to identify. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.040 It would have been my girlfriend getting home and me 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.520 not showing me out that day and them trying to 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:48.840 figure out where the hell I was. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.920 Yeah, yeah, man, how long were you up for where 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.000 you didn't you weren't able to provide any information about yourself? 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.480 I want to say, like the rest of that day, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.400 I want to I arrived at the hospital around like 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.400 just after noon after noon or so, and for the 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.200 rest of that day, like it was just slowly working 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.959 to get back whatever cognitive function I could. And it's 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.000 a miracle that I had cognitive function at all and 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.240 didn't have any sort of like brain injury from the 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.840 lack of oxygen or any sort of other injuries. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.920 And where are you now after five months? Are you 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.160 pretty close to where you were before the accident? 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.000 Pretty much? Yeah, all of the testing on my heart 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.040 came back totally normal. At this point, my doctors think 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.680 that my heart stopping didn't happen first. It was probably 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.319 a result of what I was doing that day. And 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.680 about three weeks ago I had a monitoring implant put 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.560 in so that it records my heart constantly and see 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.760 if we find anything weird over three years or so. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:06.160 Hm. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.800 Oh, so you're gonna be monitored for the next three 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.080 years to see if anything's uh going on. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.800 Yeah, it's it's constantly recording, and I have a little 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.000 button that I can press if I feel symptoms or 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.440 anything that makes a mark so that they can see 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.240 what's going on at that time. But yeah, the battery 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.280 of the device last three years. Yeah, like a little bit. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.280 Aware, like a life alert type of thing, like a 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.080 little keychain. If your heart does something weird, just press 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:34.439 a button. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:36.480 Yeah. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.000 It's not like something I wear or anything, but it's 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:39.680 on my keychain. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:39.960 Yeah. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:41.439 Does it look cool? 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:44.840 I wouldn't say it looks cool? 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.240 Now, can you like make it look cool? 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:47.360 You know? 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.640 I can get like a like a Star Wars credit 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.480 card and shit like that, Like can you customize it? 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.520 I don't know, I like a like a game Boy 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.679 case so I can paint over or something like that. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:13:59.440 I haven't thought of that. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:00.960 Yeah, I'm like that. I mean that would be kind 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.240 of sick. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.000 That would be kind of sick. I should look into. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:11.080 That before we go. Steve, any final thoughts about any 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:16.560 of this, any final epiphanies that you would like to 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.440 share from this whole this whole thing. I mean, this 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.520 is interesting again because it sounded like you were on 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:29.800 this yolo kick beforehand, and then you had the near 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.200 death experience, and the near death experience is typically what 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.560 drives people into the yolo kick, but since you are 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.360 already on, it acted like this like Uno reverse card 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:43.560 to THEO, and you were like, and now you're in 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.000 a position where you're like, all right, you should like 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.400 calm the fuck down because going yolo mode got me 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.680 a little too in deep. But also that said, there's 0:14:53.720 --> 0:15:00.160 ways to go yolo without necessarily doing like going skydiving 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.880 and free die. There's the ways to do it. It's 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.360 not like you know, extreme sports and ship. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:16.440 Yeah. I think the biggest thing that I realize, and 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.760 the most important thing that I realized, was that, you know, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.160 I have to think about how my actions affect my 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:31.360 family more because it really was a situation where I 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.640 was going too hard and thinking really about how I 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.000 can make myself feel good and experience my life to 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.360 the fullest, but not understanding the repercussions of how that 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.160 might affect, you know, my family and especially my girlfriend. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.880 You know, I care about her opinion just as much 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.280 as I do mine now, so I need to be 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.360 more conscientious of the things that I do if I 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.640 want to continue having a good relationship with her. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.160 Steve, thank you very much for sharing your story with us. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:06.360 Is very informative. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:07.240 Thank you. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.800 Thanks for talking. Don't free dive alone, don't swim alone, 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.160 because that shit's bad. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.120 Thank you for calling Steve. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.080 Appreciate you. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:25.680 I have a good night, huh. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:32.800 Yolo mode can have an adverse effect on the people 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.880 that we care about. I'm the you know what, Steve, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.960 Steve really is speaking to me on that. Steve really 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.040 is speaking to me on that. I've been in a 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:48.080 little bit of a yolo mode thing, been thinking about death, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.960 been thinking about the limited amount of time we have 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.400 here on this earth, and it's to put me into 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:57.280 a little bit of a yolo mode. And I don't know, 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.640 this is not me giving a definitive statement on these 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:05.280 sorts of things. But I feel like I can see 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:11.160 how that how yolo mode can be a little bit selfish, right, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.119 you know, like, like my yolo mode is telling me 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.440 I need to abandon all of my friends and family 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.560 and everything I'm doing and just travel the world, stay alone, 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:31.160 you know, stay in hostels, go to Berlin, hang out 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.959 in a dungeon and get like a new phone or whatever, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.439 and you know, delete my stupid Instagram and and just 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.360 you'll go off the grid. That's my yolo mode is, 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.520 you know, tells me. But Steve has a good point. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.639 My mom would want to call me, you know, my 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.480 friends would want to know that I'm alive and shit. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.119 So he's got a good point. He's given me a 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:02.160 lot to think about, for sure. Ellie. 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.120 Hello, Well this is her. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.080 Ellie. Uh, how is life going for you? 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:17.400 It's going well? 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:18.480 Why is it going well? 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:19.000 Can you hear me? 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.440 Why is it going well? 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.600 I'm a bridal seamstress as of right now, and I'm 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.480 really happy where I'm at. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.840 Uh, you're a bridal seamstress. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:34.440 Yeah? 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:35.399 Yeah. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:40.200 I Taylor wedding dresses and I also make wedding dresses, says. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:45.200 Here that you are a dominatrix and that you orchestrated 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:51.120 recently a nine person orgy. Is that correct? 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.040 H that is correct. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.920 That was something I was. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.480 I was a dominant trick for a little bit. I'm 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.840 not anymore. And then it just led me to that 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.000 nine perc from a sub that I was dumping. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.080 And you were doing that for about two months. What 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:16.720 got you into? What got you into? Hobby? I call 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.040 it hobby? 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.680 Ye, it technically is. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:31.560 Some people build model airplanes, some people play golf, some 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.919 people sexually dominant. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:41.040 Well, I just wanted to venture where I come from. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.000 Hey, do whatever makes you happy. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.560 I think whatever makes you happen. All right, I'll stop 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:47.760 talking over you now completely. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:49.160 Three. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:54.800 Two, stop talking over you all right now ready. 0:19:55.760 --> 0:20:00.640 So the main reason why I did it, it's because 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.480 I come from a very religious background and that was 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:08.000 just very taboo to be I guess on the other side, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.880 and I wanted to venture out. And I recently at 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.919 that time, got out a relationship and I was just like, 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.520 you know, what, fuck it. I kind of like what 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.480 I'm doing already, and I want to continue out and 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.440 I at least want to say that I did it, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.520 you know, just to have that experience. And that's kind 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.240 of why I don't really do it now, just because 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.520 I got what I needed from it. I got what 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.840 my experience was, and now I'm here and I just 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.400 know that i'd done it and when I do it again, 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:46.919 maybe in the right situation, but more of I already 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.320 did it. So I'm kind of venturing out into newer things, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:50.679 you know. 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.399 And what was this nine person orgy? 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:54.679 Like? 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:58.040 It was very interesting. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.440 It was from I was writing by my sub and 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.240 we all got tested before and after, just because you know, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.560 that's always healthy. And they were very communicative too, and 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.280 some of them I'm friends with. But I did sign 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.040 a confidentiality form because a lot of those people don't 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.879 want to be known and I respect that. 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:25.600 A confidentiality Oh you signed like an NDA? Yeah yeah, okay, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.280 so we can talk about the experience. We just can't 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:34.560 name names. Yeah, not that the names would even be 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:40.760 I mean, you know, you touched Katie Anderson's boobs? Like 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.040 who is that? You know what I'm saying? Like, unless 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.159 I mean, are these celebrities or like well known people? 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.680 Like oh what, I can't say anything. I can't name 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.760 the business. I can't name where they're from. I can't 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.399 name anything about them. All I can name is just 0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:58.920 I did stuff with them and that was it. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.680 So in nine person orgy, I feel like, how long 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.080 did this last? 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.480 It was a whole night, and then I went home 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.480 at four am, and then I slept for two hours, 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:15.920 and then I continued on for my day. 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.560 So a nine person orgy in my mind, I'm like, 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.919 you know, even with like a threesome, right, it's like, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:29.000 how do you adequately a lot? How do you adequately 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:34.600 time between both of the people and in the nine 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.200 person I mean that's eight people. Do you feel as 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:42.040 though you were adequately able to? Now? 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:42.359 Are you? 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:43.440 Are you bisexual? 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:46.080 Am? I am? 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:51.840 Okay? So you were interacting with every person involved in 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:52.399 the orgy. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.200 Let me put it like this, sure, if one part 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.840 of me did not have anything, you just kind of 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:02.520 search for you know. 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.359 Hey, this space is open, do you want to occupy it? 0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.640 You know it kind of sort of ideal, you know. 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.560 Yes, yeah, just kind of continue it. 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:14.960 Yeah, exactly exactly. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.879 And personally, I know my body well and I know 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.480 my limits. Maybe not at that time, but at. 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.439 Least for the most part of what I needed to 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:23.800 do it. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.040 But it was a lot of pressure. I did have 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:30.080 a lot of anxiety beforehand, but it definitely does help 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.160 to hang out and like talk to them and especially communication. 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.320 You know, that's the very most biggest thing. And I 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.959 feel like that applies to anything when you're doing it, 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:45.520 either if it's sexual or not. But I just think 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.399 it's always important to just be like, hey, this is 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.400 what I can limit on, or like let's go easy, 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:54.679 or it's like they want to say something to me, 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.159 I'm more than happy to hear it. 0:23:56.200 --> 0:24:00.560 You know now in that nine person or you, what 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:08.040