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Speaker 1: Did you say you died for like a second?

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Speaker 2: I would say I died for like a second four times.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be good about like living towards my

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Speaker 1: And it has resulted and you dying. Steve. Well, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 3: Steve?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, pull of corn bread?

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Speaker 1: You said you're eating some corn bread.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some corn bread.

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Speaker 1: It's just corn bread. Or are there any like meats

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Speaker 2: It is straight up corn bread with corn in it.

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Speaker 1: There's corn in the corn bread.

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Speaker 2: There's corn in the corn bread.

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Speaker 1: Yet I feel like corn bread doesn't typically have corn

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Speaker 2: I mean I just like corn, I guess. And that's

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Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, trying to get great.

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Speaker 2: It's like a Jiffy box, like one of those sixty

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Speaker 1: Steve It says here, you want to talk about a

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Speaker 1: near death experience that you had recently.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I passed out while I was free diving and

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Speaker 2: my heart stopped four times.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: While you were free diving, so like diving into like

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Speaker 2: I was at a spring.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm m hm uh. And is free diving in

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Speaker 2: I had been doing it for probably like four months,

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Speaker 1: Mhmm. What made you want to get into free diving

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Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of a way you confront a fear.

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely afraid of drownings. I wanted to learn how

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Speaker 1: I like that. Are you a guy who typically if

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Speaker 2: I used I used to not be, but now I am.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that you did that and

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Speaker 1: it has resulted and you dying. It sounds like did

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Speaker 1: you did you say you died for like a second?

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Speaker 2: I would say I died for like a second four times?

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Speaker 1: So how high up were you when you were diving

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Speaker 2: How high up was I?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean? Well?

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Speaker 1: You you would you use a high dive right or

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Speaker 2: You said, yeah, you're just going underwater.

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Speaker 4: So I was at like, oh, oh okay.

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Speaker 1: All right, so it's like you put on like scuba

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you're just holding your breath. There's

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it was deep sea diving, but just

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Speaker 3: The water for you, around thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: It's a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it wasn't, but it is a long time.

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Speaker 1: Were you alone? Did you have people around you who

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Speaker 2: Well, see that's the thing. I was being really really

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Speaker 3: Where I was.

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Speaker 1: You were completely alone.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were just by standards around the spring,

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Speaker 1: So give me a play by a play here of

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Speaker 2: So I don't actually remember exactly what happened, so everything

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Speaker 2: started to think. Some guy pulled me out and pulled

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Speaker 2: and then they brought over an AED, one of those

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Speaker 1: So I'm very interested in this because you've established, even

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, Yeah, how did this accident further contribute

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Speaker 2: It kind of made me realize I was taking things

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Speaker 1: M So, how long ago did this happen?

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Speaker 2: This happened last October, So this is five months ago?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And uh in this in these past five months,

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Speaker 2: Well, I've been going through extensive testing of my heart,

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Speaker 1: Where do your thoughts lie surrounding life in general at

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Speaker 2: Well, after this, I feel a lot more comfortable about death,

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Speaker 2: if that makes any sense at all, because for me,

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Speaker 2: death was like a light switch, Like I don't remember

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Speaker 1: So you've gotten more comfortable with the idea of dying.

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Speaker 2: Death in general. I think I'm still afraid of like

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Speaker 2: especially you know, my family, but for me, it was

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Speaker 2: kind of comforting to know that, you know, you're just

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Speaker 1: Right, because you didn't have much time to freak out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's an interesting situation where everything I know about

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Speaker 3: How so.

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Speaker 2: Well, that whole day of realizing what happened, I had

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Speaker 2: went through. Since you know, it's I'd have no concept

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Speaker 1: Day, right, And while in a weird way it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially my girlfriend. I arrived at the hospital as

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Speaker 2: a John Doe. They couldn't identify me. And my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: Really, she just happened upawn you at So she was

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Speaker 1: It like almost dead in one of the rooms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so's she's an X ray student. So her team

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Speaker 2: got an order for a John Doe suspected drowning with syncope.

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Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little terrifying that first, you know, I

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Speaker 1: And oh man, that's uh, that's very wild. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It would have been my girlfriend getting home and me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, how long were you up for where

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Speaker 2: I want to say, like the rest of that day,

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Speaker 1: And where are you now after five months? Are you

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Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah, all of the testing on my heart

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Speaker 2: came back totally normal. At this point, my doctors think

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Speaker 2: that my heart stopping didn't happen first. It was probably

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Speaker 2: a result of what I was doing that day. And

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Speaker 2: about three weeks ago I had a monitoring implant put

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Speaker 2: in so that it records my heart constantly and see

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Speaker 2: if we find anything weird over three years or so.

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Speaker 3: Hm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's constantly recording, and I have a little

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Speaker 2: what's going on at that time. But yeah, the battery

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Speaker 1: Aware, like a life alert type of thing, like a

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Speaker 2: It's not like something I wear or anything, but it's

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Speaker 1: I can get like a like a Star Wars credit

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Speaker 1: Steve, thank you very much for sharing your story with us.

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Speaker 1: Is very informative.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for talking. Don't free dive alone, don't swim alone,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Steve.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: I have a good night, huh.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Well this is her.

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Speaker 1: Ellie. Uh, how is life going for you?

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Speaker 6: It's going well?

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Speaker 1: Why is it going well?

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Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: Why is it going well?

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Speaker 5: I'm a bridal seamstress as of right now, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're a bridal seamstress.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I Taylor wedding dresses and I also make wedding dresses, says.

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Speaker 1: Here that you are a dominatrix and that you orchestrated

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Speaker 1: recently a nine person orgy. Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: H that is correct.

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Speaker 6: That was something I was.

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Speaker 5: I was a dominant trick for a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 1: And you were doing that for about two months. What

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Speaker 6: Ye, it technically is.

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Speaker 1: Some people build model airplanes, some people play golf, some

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Speaker 5: Well, I just wanted to venture where I come from.

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Speaker 6: Hey, do whatever makes you happy.

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Speaker 1: I think whatever makes you happen. All right, I'll stop

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Speaker 3: Three.

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Speaker 1: Two, stop talking over you all right now ready.

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Speaker 5: So the main reason why I did it, it's because

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Speaker 1: And what was this nine person orgy?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: It was very interesting.

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Speaker 5: It was from I was writing by my sub and

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Speaker 1: A confidentiality Oh you signed like an NDA? Yeah yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so we can talk about the experience. We just can't

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you touched Katie Anderson's boobs? Like

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Speaker 5: Like oh what, I can't say anything. I can't name

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Speaker 1: So in nine person orgy, I feel like, how long

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Speaker 5: It was a whole night, and then I went home

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Speaker 1: So a nine person orgy in my mind, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you bisexual?

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Speaker 5: Let me put it like this, sure, if one part

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Speaker 6: Hey, this space is open, do you want to occupy it?

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Speaker 5: But it was a lot of pressure. I did have

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Speaker 5: I'm more than happy to hear it.

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Speaker 1: You know now in that nine person or you, what

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Speaker 6: Ambitious?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Can I be fully honest here?

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Speaker 5: I know I can't.

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Speaker 6: I've watched you.

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan of you, Like I love you

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Speaker 6: But anyways, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean so so so you've watched the stream you know

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Speaker 6: What, Yeah, totally. The most that I did was.

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Speaker 3: To speak of my cheek.

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Speaker 5: The most I did was, you know, two cocks in

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I was gonna two other okay, so I

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Speaker 5: That was all in total, and then.

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Speaker 1: Someone in then your mouth is connected as well. Six Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's six people at what.

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Speaker 6: I would not do that again.

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Speaker 5: I just want to try it once, just to have

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Speaker 5: And like, now what's funny is like now, I'm very monogamous,

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Speaker 5: I don't know why. I just knew what was going on.

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Speaker 1: But I've always what I was thinking about. I was

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Speaker 1: you even get three people like that tight enough to

453
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: accomplish something like that?

454
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 6: I can frame this for you.

455
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: I can frame this for you. Okay, the one was

456
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: on the bottom of me. The other one was kind

457
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 5: of like at an angle where he was laying on

458
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 5: top of that guy with his stick being in my ass,

459
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: and then the top one being on top of that

460
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 5: guy also in my ass.

461
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: So the so the guys were on top of each other.

462
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: It's pretty much we only it literally, Okay, that part

463
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: was only for like max thirty seconds, just because it's

464
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 5: a lot going on.

465
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of strain on

466
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: the body and like the so I feel like you

467
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: would have to create a bit everyone have to creatively

468
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: position themselves.

469
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's just like, Okay, well let's just try this.

470
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 5: It just kind of all formed together and like it

471
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 5: was very interesting, didn't last for long just because how.

472
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 6: Structured it is.

473
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: It's not very well structured, Tino.

474
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound very It does not sound like a

475
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: sustainable position whatsoever.

476
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: It's not. It is not. So that's why you do it,

477
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 5: you know, mm hmmmmm.

478
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: You do it not so much. It sounds like when

479
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: you say, you know, you wanted to do this as

480
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: a life experience, sounds like you weren't in search of

481
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: like you know, you weren't simply in search of pleasure,

482
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: you were in search of of adventure in a sense.

483
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's exactly how it was.

484
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, yeah, it sounds really nice, but like,

485
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it would turn me on all the time,

486
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: just because when you really think about it, that's a

487
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: lot of prep to go through, a lot of prep,

488
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: which a lot of people don't understand. And I feel

489
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: like that's all a lot of people don't understand. If

490
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: they're not I guess maybe in the industry. I'm not, like,

491
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: I know what. They go through a lot of prep.

492
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: It's not easy.

493
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: It's not something you just do on the go in

494
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: a flash.

495
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: You mean you know, And you say, do you mean

496
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: like prepping of the bodies, stretching of the whole type

497
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: of thing.

498
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so tell me.

499
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 5: If there's no my body would be tearing people.

500
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Do you know what. I'm glad that you told us

501
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: this because people I feel like don't realize the work

502
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: that it takes to accomplish show up. Yes, yes, yes,

503
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean any in any sort of in any sort

504
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: of group effort, in anything where a heavy amount of

505
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: teamwork is involved, inherently requires a fair amount communication.

506
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Either sexual or non sexual. It's oh,

507
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 5: it's something you have to communicate with. You can't just

508
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: jump into it just because it's not realistic. That's not

509
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: how your body is technically designed to do, you know.

510
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: But with you know, a good learning, good communication, and

511
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: a healthy mindset and environment, you'll have a wonderful time.

512
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: So before we go, tell me, I don't think we

513
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: touched on this yet. But what caught uh what car

514
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I burped out was drinking some water? What caused the

515
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: exit of this lifestyle?

516
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 6: The exit?

517
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: Yes, mainly because I didn't want like my family to know,

518
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: because like they're also very conservative and like mainly my

519
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: mom just because I really care what she thinks, and

520
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 5: I hope she does not hear this, because i'd brother

521
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: her not.

522
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: But yeah, usually I.

523
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: Just kind of exit because I also kind of wanted

524
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 5: something more with one person. Now I kind of like

525
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: realized to myself that, like as much sexual pleasure as

526
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 5: this gives me, it doesn't get me in a way

527
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: that makes me want to stick with it for long,

528
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: you know, where like when I really get to know

529
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: and like talk to someone, I know that like all

530
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: my focus is on them, and I can kind of

531
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: exert and kind of have that satisfaction of giving that

532
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: to just one person, And I think that's really special.

533
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 6: You know, some people like to do that more people,

534
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 6: and I think that's even.

535
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: More special if you have the energy and willpower to

536
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: do that.

537
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: By all means, do what.

538
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: You can with your own self discovery. But it's great,

539
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: it's great and well, but it is more like self discovery.

540
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: And I also want to tell you get you have

541
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: got me through a relationship too. Sometimes when I feel

542
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: like I am alone and I don't like talking to anybody,

543
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: I just tune into you and with your talking and

544
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: understanding is willing to listen. I think that's one of

545
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 5: the main things why people like listening to you.

546
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Elie, dude, I really appreciate that. I'm glad

547
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: to hear that you were able to I'm glad to

548
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: hear you had the courage to go out there and

549
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: try something new, and then the courage after that to

550
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: decide that it wasn't for you and to leave it

551
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: behind in search of something new. So thank you for

552
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: sharing all that.

553
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: Everybody should think. Maybe applies to yourself too, you know,

554
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: as much as wonderfulness as we always want you to

555
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: be happy, and you know, hey, if you find something

556
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: on something better than this, don't don't hesitate to jump

557
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: on it.

558
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: If anyone wants to invite me to a nine person orgy,

559
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: my dms are open.

560
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: Hey, you can go on my dms.

561
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: Have you two gek, I love you.

562
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: A gorgey gecko orgy nine nine person gecko costume orgy.

563
00:32:52,120 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: Who's down? Oh Zach, Yes, what's going on?

564
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: It's me?

565
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been waiting close to two hours.

566
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: You've been waiting for close to two hours. Yeah, well

567
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: here it is what you waited for. It's all me

568
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: you'll let me start and then you'll get a go.

569
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Zach. It says here that you've been, uh,

570
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: weighing on your own mortality. I figured, I figured, Yeah,

571
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: we've had plenty, we've I feel like tonight has been

572
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: it hasn't been depressing enough, and I'm trying to get

573
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: at least one depressing call in. So I think that

574
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: we can we can make it this one.

575
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: All right.

576
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: Well, I've got this really strange concept of death, like

577
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: it's something that you can fight, like cancer.

578
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

579
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Interesting that that there's a.

580
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: Possibility we could full stop or place all of our

581
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: organs and cut our arms off and then become less

582
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: reliant on our body system.

583
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: Hm.

584
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: So you have this idea that death is something like

585
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: a disease where you could theoretically fight against it as

586
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: opposed to looking at it as a inevitability.

587
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something that we don't have to do. Y.

588
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: Interesting And how heavily do you believe in this that

589
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: that if you wanted.

590
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: To, I am a full blooded immortalist transhumanist m hm hm.

591
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: So do you anticipate that you will live forever?

592
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 7: Ah?

593
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: I sure would like to, even if it's just a

594
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: ghost of my brain. You know, if my brain gets

595
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 4: scanned and then that that image of my brain gets

596
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: compiled to some other entities, and maybe that in some

597
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: sense is more immortality.

598
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: So you say that you can fight off death. What

599
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: are your strategies your methods for fighting off death?

600
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: M hmm, ideally lives fit, eat healthy, swap the keto.

601
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: Keto is really helpful. It makes you essentially eat your

602
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: fat cells, which you can create by eating greens and meat.

603
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: But the whole, the whole thing why I'm calling right,

604
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: is that is it a waste of time to fight

605
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: death or is it an inevitability to accept it?

606
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Well, you tell me that you are a immortalist, you're

607
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: a transhumanist. Not one hundred percent shore what that means,

608
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: but I'm going to go with it. It's kind of

609
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: I can. I can right that you that you believe

610
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 1: that you could theoretically attain immortality. Yes, you were about

611
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: to tell me the definition of transhumanist and I want

612
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: to hear that.

613
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the I would say, it's for best transhumanist,

614
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 4: which is that God exists, but we give it meaning

615
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: and he doesn't interact in our lives, that at some

616
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: point something created the universe through thoughtful process. But we're

617
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: here to die and die and die and keep dying.

618
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: And there's a certain level of pushing the envelope that

619
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: humans are meant to push the envelope. We're meant to

620
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: go into space, We're meant to see other planets. You know,

621
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: our planet will kill us.

622
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: So you asked me what I think about fighting death

623
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: versus accepting your mortality. Is that correct?

624
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

625
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a waste of time to fight faith.

626
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to tell you what to believe

627
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: because you're coming in here like I'm a transhumanist, I'm

628
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: an immortalitist. I believe that it's possible to fight immortality,

629
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to tell you what to believe.

630
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, if you truly believe that you can fight mortality,

631
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that, uh that that

632
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: that that you're wrong, you know, but if you're if

633
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: you're asking me, go ahead.

634
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: I saw the show and I saw you, and you

635
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: seem like you're just kind of here to be here

636
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: and you exist to exist. So I connected with that.

637
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: It's extremely act.

638
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: I kind of have to I have to kind of

639
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: just wander through life with no meaning, only to accept

640
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: death at the end. I mean that seems kind of lackluster.

641
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like your life has no meaning?

642
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, because what does it all lead to? It's

643
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 4: all at the end of life, you die, and then

644
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: what does that mean? Like my parents would go to

645
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: heaven according to them, and I would go to hell.

646
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: You know, so I'm burning eternally forever. That doesn't seem

647
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: too good.

648
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: What is your life like right now? Do you oh

649
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: my job to your friends? Do you tell me everything?

650
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: I had a car crash in October that really took

651
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: my life up, and it made me perceive life in

652
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: a different way that it could just be gone quickly

653
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: and without any idea that it would happen. You know,

654
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: do you just die? I crashed my car into a

655
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: wall going forty five miles an hour and fractured my spine.

656
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: And the car crash was actually caused by a seizure.

657
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: So I have memory issues and things going on in

658
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: my life. It's just fucked. It's just fuck. Excuse me, am,

659
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: I allowed to cuss.

660
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want.

661
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: Well, I just wanted to talk to the gecko. That's

662
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: the idea, is I wanted to talk to the gecko.

663
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: Maybe you could tell me that life is worth dying for,

664
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: you know, or life is worth fighting for.

665
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, Well yeah, I was thinking about this sort

666
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of recently, and it's like immortality, there's almost and and

667
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: don't let me just tell you what is and what

668
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: isn't you know? I want to get your opinion on

669
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: this here, because I know about as much as you

670
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: do about life and shit, But immortality, there's almost a hint.

671
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: There's there's almost a hint of greed to that, right,

672
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: Like everyone who has ever lived, every organism, if you

673
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: fucking plant, dog, elephants, booger, they've all died. Every Abraham

674
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Lincoln fucking died. Everyone who's in the news right now.

675
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna die. No, it doesn't matter. Kim Kardashian's gonna die.

676
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die, You're gonna die, when Listens is gonna

677
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: all gonna die. Everyone's gonna die. We have this allotted

678
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: period of time to exist that was given to everybody.

679
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: And don't you think there's something a little bit greedy,

680
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: a little bit egotistical, And I don't know. I want

681
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: to get your opinion on this because I'm developing this

682
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: as I'm speaking it. But I said, there's something a

683
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: little bit greedy about saying, well, every living thing in

684
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: the history of life has had a finite amount of time,

685
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: but me, I should get more?

686
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: You know?

687
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's like, it's like if you eat

688
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: a nice uh the basket of chicken tenders, It's like,

689
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: shouldn't that be enough? Do I need? Do I need

690
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: to order another basket? Can I not sit in the

691
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: moment with the chicken tenders, observe the texture, look at

692
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: the juices as I'm squeezing it. Can I not live

693
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: in the moment of what I was given and accept

694
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: it to be enough? You know what I mean? What

695
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: do you think about that?

696
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: I think it is to some degree selfish of me

697
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 4: to want to live forever. But at the same time,

698
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: the universe is so expansive that our willingness to conquer

699
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: it would be something worth witnessing.

700
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: I agree, And I've been thinking about this, man, I

701
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: really have, because I've been thinking a lot recently about

702
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: how there's so many corners of the world and so

703
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: many people, and I'm just I'm not gonna be able

704
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: to see it all. I'm really not. I'm not gonna

705
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: be able to see like fucking Lebanon, and uh, you know,

706
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get to go to some guy's house

707
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: in North Dakota and have dinner with them. I'm not

708
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna get There's infinite human experiences, infinite people, infinite adventures,

709
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: and I'm just not gonna be able to have them all.

710
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: But so because of that, and that's the reality for everyone,

711
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: even the most you know, even the guy on Instagram

712
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: was posting a picture of himself at the Northern Lights

713
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: one day and you know, hanging out with the president

714
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the other day. Even that guy's not gonna get to

715
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: do everything. So in light of that, what I think

716
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: you gotta do is the things you do get to do,

717
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: The friends you do get to have, the family you

718
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: do get to have, the sites you do get to see,

719
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: even if you think they're bory, even just the sky

720
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: right outside of your front door, even talking to your

721
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: mom on the phone, even looking at a picture of

722
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: a dog on the computer. Whatever life experience you do

723
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: get to have. Cherish it, you know, like like like

724
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: where we're trying to conquer the whole world, but how

725
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: much are we really appreciating the shit that we do

726
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: get to do. That's what I'm trying to tell myself,

727
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: because it's like, if you can't look out, if you

728
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: can't take a walk around your neighborhood that you've been

729
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: in for you know, however long you've been in there,

730
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: and you can't appreciate the shit that's right in front

731
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: of you every single day, you're not gonna find what

732
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for out in the world. You're not gonna

733
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: be able to appreciate the grand Canyon. If you can't

734
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: appreciate the smile on your friends, We're gonna get corny here,

735
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: but you know, the smile on your friend's face, or

736
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: a dog at a park at your shitty small town.

737
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: You know, if you can't appreciate what's right in front

738
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: of you, you're not gonna be able to appreciate what

739
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: you think is the grand stuff out there. You know

740
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is any of this resonate with you?

741
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

742
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I could put it plainly as the four billion

743
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: year principles that I've lived my life through is that

744
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: in four billion years, all of everything we know has

745
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: the possibility to completely destroy itself. So Earth and everything

746
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: is just gonna go away. In two million, two billion years,

747
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: our sign is going to turn into a red dwarf giant,

748
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 4: which is going to evaporate all of the water on

749
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: Earth completely.

750
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Entirely, and all the gatorade too.

751
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean not the gatorade.

752
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: You think the gatorade will survive the sun dying out?

753
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: If humans have the potential like I think we do,

755
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: we have the potential to live in red dwarf land,

756
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: you know, we we could go underground and save ourselves.

757
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Well, I hope I'm dead long before U before the

758
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: great drought of.

759
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to hold for it.

760
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Zach, I, I sort of feel I gave

761
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 1: my spiel about how I feel about Thank you for

762
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: giving me the space to let that all out there,

763
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: because these are all things, these things that you're thinking about,

764
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about them too. It's been it's been heavily

765
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: weighing on my mind, my own mortality. But and I'm

766
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: always between these two solutions of Okay, I'm gonna die,

767
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: so I should go out into the world and do everything,

768
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: see everything I possibly can. And I want to do that,

769
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: and I'm leaning towards doing that, And it's a goal

770
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: of mine to do that, but I would be remiss

771
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: to not, alongside that learn how to better appreciate and

772
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: soak in everything that's right in front of me right now.

773
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: I was, even as I'm like on the phone with you,

774
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, in my head trying to be just appreciative

775
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: of the fact that, like I'm on the fucking internet

776
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm getting to do this as a job and

777
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: like talk to you about these things. So I'm trying

778
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: to simultaneously appreciate the life experience that I am getting

779
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: to have while being ambitious toward creating more. And then

780
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: when it comes time for me to die, I only

781
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: hope that I'll have been grateful for whatever I did

782
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: get while I was alive.

783
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, is it wasted effort to fight it?

784
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

785
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: I think so.

786
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. M hm.

787
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: So that's that. That answers my question. Thank thank you

788
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: for taking my call for.

789
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: Sure man that I guess. I guess my my sustinct

790
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: answer would be, uh, that effort that you're spending fighting it,

791
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: put that into appreciating it.

792
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: Okay, that's it.

793
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, beautiful, Thank you, Zach. Take care. All right,

794
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I did it. I went on a on a lifey rant.

795
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: I went on a corny lifey rant. Now, does anybody

796
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: want to call in to tell me about a time

797
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: they shot themselves? I feel like that's the natural point

798
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: of progression for this podcast. Hello, is this talent? This

799
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: is what's going on with you? Talent?

800
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 8: Just hanging out warm night here up in the Midwest.

801
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to tell me what it is

802
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: you called in about.

803
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 8: I moved in with my first roommate and I collect

804
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 8: his toenails and fingernails and I don't know.

805
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: How to stop.

806
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: How long have you been doing this?

807
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 8: We became roommates in September. I'd probably say it started

808
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 8: right around Christmas.

809
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: And where do do you typically find his toenails and fingernails?

810
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: Does he does? He typically clip them in one particular

811
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: area that you you scavenge them from.

812
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 8: Well, uh, it started with the fingernails. He bites them

813
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 8: and I would just see them on the floor in

814
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 8: their living room, and I'd get it started off with

815
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 8: me getting really upset about it, and then as time

816
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 8: went on, I kind of just started collecting them, maybe

817
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 8: as proof, I'm not sure. And then the toenails turns

818
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 8: into a whole different story.

819
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay, So you started collecting them as a form,

820
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: as a way to build a case, but then it

821
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: took a little bit its own form of pleasure for you.

822
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: And how many of your roommate's fingernails and toenails would

823
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: you say you are currently in possession of, Oh.

824
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 8: Geez, maybe one hundred and one hundred and fifty two hundred.

825
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on one hundred and fifty to

826
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: two hundred.

827
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 8: Well, I was so I work night shifts, so I

828
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: get off at two am, and I would just you know,

829
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 8: he'd be in bed, and I just kind of go

830
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 8: in a little scavenger hunt. I started finding more and more.

831
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: I've been like one hundred off they two hundred. I mean,

832
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: if he's only been there since September, that's about what

833
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: six months or so something like that, six or seven

834
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: months maybe? Is that even enough time for you to

835
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: collect that many? I mean that, I mean the guys

836
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: only had the guy only has twenty nail producing digits

837
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: at a time.

838
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 8: Well, well, what is it toenails grow at the same

839
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 8: rate as tectonic plates separate? So I mean that's I mean,

840
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 8: that's a substantial amount. Five a day upstairs and then

841
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 8: next thing you know, you're looking through his carpets in

842
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 8: his bedroom for the toenails.

843
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if the teutonic plates thing is true,

844
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: but you seem like you would know more about toenails

845
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: than me, So I'm gonna take your word for it.

846
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 8: Well, I dug a little deep because I feel a

847
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 8: little psychotic.

848
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: And where do you typically keep the fingernails and toenails?

849
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 8: I have a little wooden chest I've had since I

850
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 8: was a kid. You said, keepsakes in it, and you

851
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 8: know it's a little collection box.

852
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're saying you feel a little bit psychotic.

853
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: Why do you feel psychotic?

854
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 8: Well, I've considered myself a normal guy kind of up

855
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 8: until this point. You know, covid hit took on golf

856
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: and work out, and just I have this weird obsession

857
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 8: with the things. I observe them. I kind of sometimes

858
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 8: there are different colors and I don't know, it's just

859
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 8: can't stop.

860
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: And do you clip your own fingers and tone fingernails

861
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: and to els?

862
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: I do?

863
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: What do you do with them?

864
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 8: I just I clipped them over the toilet and flush them.

865
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't do anything with your own you

866
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: only want your roommates. Yes, what is your relationship like

867
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: with your roommate outside of this?

868
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Are you?

869
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Is there any sexual elements to this? Do you think?

870
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: Are you?

871
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: Are you attracted to your roommate?

872
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 8: No, he's actually my best friend. We've been best friends

873
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 8: for a while and we work out together. But I

874
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 8: have a girlfriend, so like, I don't. I don't get

875
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 8: any arousal from it.

876
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: Okay, how long you done him for?

877
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 3: Geez?

878
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 8: Probably almost seven years?

879
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: Now?

880
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Does he know that you collect his fingernails and toenails?

881
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 8: He does not.

882
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: How do you think he would react if you found out?

883
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 8: We have a pretty goofy friendship. I think he would

884
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 8: be weird at out and it would be a very

885
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 8: weird conversation, But like, I don't think it would be

886
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 8: a deal breaker for the friendship.

887
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, have you considered telling him that you collect his

888
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: fingernails and toenails or are you keeping this a secret

889
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: for as long as you possibly can?

890
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 8: I think I think I could tell him, and I

891
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 8: want to, but it's more my girlfriend that I'm terrified

892
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 8: to tell.

893
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Why are you terrified to tell your girlfriend?

894
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 8: Well, I mean we've been together three years, but that's

895
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 8: just a that's just a wrench in the whole relationship.

896
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 8: I feel like.

897
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: You seem like you've done some introspection into this.

898
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: Is that?

899
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Have you taken the time to sort

900
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: of ask yourself why you're doing this?

901
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

902
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 8: I mean I overthink everything. I mean I've looked into

903
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 8: the rate that they grow. I look at the nails,

904
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 8: I look at what it's going to do to our relationship,

905
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 8: and I just I feel like that's not a great

906
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 8: thing to be thrown into a relationship. A friendship might

907
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 8: be a little goofy.

908
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: You google and research the rate of growth of toenails

909
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: and fingernails so that you can sort of plan your

910
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: next scavenge around that.

911
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 8: Well, well, it started off with me being pissed about

912
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 8: it because there it just it seemed like there's so

913
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 8: many And then next thing, you know, it's just an obsession.

914
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 8: It's almost like like research.

915
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any sort of master plan, like of

916
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: something that you want to do with these fingernails and toenails,

917
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: an end game of any kind?

918
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 8: Okay, I want to burn them to see how they

919
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 8: smell interesting?

920
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: And how many do you hope to collect before you

921
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: burn them? To see how they smell.

922
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 8: I would hope that I talked to him about it

923
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 8: before it gets to that point when.

924
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: You imagine yourself burning them to see how they smell.

925
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: Is he there with you to join in on the experience.

926
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: I haven't.

927
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 8: I haven't considered that, but I think it could be

928
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 8: pretty fun, maybe a little a little goodbye.

929
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: Do you think he would be open to that?

930
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're both we're both pretty weird.

931
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I almost think if you think he's pretty weird.

932
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a possibility he's collecting yours

933
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: on the side.

934
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 8: I think if he was collecting mine and I find

935
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 8: I found out and he and I'm collecting his, I

936
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 8: think maybe there would be somewhere else on that, just

937
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 8: because like it's such a connection.

938
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

939
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 8: I mean, what are the odds?

940
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: What are the odds? Well, listen, uh, talent. I hope

941
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: that you find the courage to come clean with to

942
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: your friend about what it is that you've been doing,

943
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: because it sounds like it's not weighing on you super hard.

944
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: But I do think you would find a great deal

945
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: of release in finally bringing this issue out into the

946
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: open with him.

947
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, I been on my mind too much.

948
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you very much for calling town.

949
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 8: Thank you, you have a good night.

950
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: That would be kind of beautiful, actually, if they both

951
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: found that they were collecting each other's fingernails and toenails.

952
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is that I was going, Okay,

953
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: what I was going to say just now is that

954
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: if somebody were collecting his fingernails and toenails, he would know.

955
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: But I bite my nails, clip my toenails all the

956
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: time and sort of haphazardly placed them around the area,

957
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: and I think I probably wouldn't notice if any of

958
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: them went missing. Somebody very well could be collecting my

959
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: fingernails and toenails. And hey, to you listening to this,

960
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: do you not agree? Is there not a possibility that

961
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: somebody that you live with is collecting your fingernails and toenails?

962
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Just something to think about, Dan.

963
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? Hey? Hey, how's it going? Dan's

964
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: going great? Man? I love your show.

965
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh thanks Dan, I appreciate you.

966
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: Man.

967
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: What's happening with you right now?

968
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

969
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 7: Man, So I play a trading card game right It's

970
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 7: the Yu.

971
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: Gi Oh trading card game.

972
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 7: Yesterday I was playing in a tournament and I went undefeated.

973
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 7: It was my first time, so I wanted to come in.

974
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 7: I wanted to spend some love talk to you about it.

975
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm very curious about this. It says here that you're

976
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old.

977
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: Now.

978
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: Is getting into yu gi oh a recent thing for you?

979
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Or because I feel like typically because you said this

980
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: is your first tournament, and I feel like typically how

981
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: it goes is you sort of when you're fourteen, you

982
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: just have the cards and you don't really know how

983
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: to actually play the game. You just sort of you

984
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: hold up a card and your friend holds up a card,

985
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: and whichever one looks cooler is the winner. But then

986
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: as you get older, you actually learn how to play

987
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: the game and start to get good at it. Is

988
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: that a sort of a trajectory that's accurate to to

989
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: your journey?

990
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when your kids.

991
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 7: The only thing that I would add onto it is

992
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 7: when you try to show each other cards, sometimes it

993
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 7: didn't matter because if you got hit, they just took

994
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 7: your card.

995
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: Anyway, you were playing Yu gi oh with street rules.

996
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, some people had life points. You know,

997
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 7: we had teeth. Who could keep the most teeth?

998
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: Now, did you ever have to go on the offensive

999
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: and knock a person out to get their UGO cards

1000
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: before they could do it to you. Yes, what was

1001
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: that like?

1002
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 7: So his name was Ian McGuire and he was he

1003
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 7: was somebody that was one of those people who, like

1004
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 7: you thought they were your friend, but they would.

1005
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: Just act really shitty to you as a kid.

1006
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 7: Maybe it was just kind of situational base that you

1007
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 7: were friends out with him. But yeah, they tried pulling

1008
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: that move on me with my blue wizohy dragon that

1009
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 7: I pulled from.

1010
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: The Shoonen Jump magazine. I was really happy about it.

1011
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 7: Too, because it's like, look at how cool this is

1012
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 7: sultanate art. He tried that on me and not I

1013
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 7: shut his shit down. I took him down, and I

1014
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 7: took his card, took his face to the shadow around.

1015
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: Can I ask what the rest of your child hood

1016
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: was like?

1017
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: It was pretty good?

1018
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: It seems like, sorry, what was the last thing you said?

1019
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: Average suburban life?

1020
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Average suburban life. Okay, So this this, uh, this these

1021
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: yu gi oh brawls is the darkest, gets.

1022
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 7: No, because there's a lot of grown ass adults that

1023
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 7: fight each other over yugio as well.

1024
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: Tell me about that.

1025
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the one tournament that was like a large

1026
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 7: tournament for the whole city. Two people were arguing on

1027
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,479
Speaker 7: ruling with each other because it's an unnecessaryly complicated game

1028
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 7: that's very based off of the text. The one person

1029
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 7: had a judge not rule in their favor, and then

1030
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 7: he and the judge just fought in the middle of

1031
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 7: the tournament.

1032
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Mm hm. So you are in the competitive ugio community.

1033
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: I assume you have friends in the community. Are you

1034
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: close with any of these people who you have observed

1035
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: to be starting fights in the community.

1036
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 7: I stay away from bad blood like that. I do

1037
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 7: this because it's a silly game hanging out with friends.

1038
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: It's a little competitive.

1039
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 7: You can have a few drinks while you're doing it,

1040
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 7: but that's just too much, too much effort to be

1041
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 7: able to put into something of silly's list.

1042
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: So tell me, what do you think the timeline of

1043
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: the life of somebody who, as a thirty year old

1044
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: man is getting into physical fights at ugio tournaments. How

1045
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: do you think their life began middled and ended or

1046
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: I guess not ended, But how do they get to

1047
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: where they are? If you had to make a gander

1048
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 1: of it, you know you yourself being one of those

1049
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: guys because I feel like you seem like a good guy,

1050
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: right you.

1051
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: Thank you having so much coming from you. I love you,

1052
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: man oh, thank you, thank you.

1053
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Dan, you know you you see it. But here's the thing.

1054
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: You seem like you made proper choices. But had you

1055
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: not you, it was totally in the realm of possibility

1056
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: for you to be one of those guys getting into

1057
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: ugioh fights at thirty years old.

1058
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 7: Yugyoh is a three road man, you think, But I

1059
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 7: would say, if anything, it's probably just escapism. A lot

1060
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 7: of people, uh, you know, may have had a little

1061
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 7: bit of rougher lifestyle, just like you were saying earlier.

1062
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 7: It's it's a childhood thing that we all got into

1063
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 7: because it was so cool. It didn't make sense, but

1064
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 7: you know, like card games, Monsters, Magic Comminion, that was

1065
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 7: the one constant that they had to go through with everything.

1066
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 7: So being victorious in that maybe gives them a sort

1067
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 7: of self satisfaction to that younger self that's still yearning

1068
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 7: to be that level of cool in Japanese anime that

1069
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 7: a lot of people try to be right now, moving

1070
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 7: myself right right, I feel like we all try to

1071
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 7: be Japanese anime characters at one point in our lives, and.

1072
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've ever come close to experiencing

1073
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: what you think it might feel like to be the

1074
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: protagonist in a Japanese anime.

1075
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 7: I try every day when I wake up to be

1076
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 7: my own protagonist in an anime. I do my hair

1077
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 7: up pretty well too, to kind of look like that.

1078
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: What brought you to start participating in these tournaments had

1079
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: you not played the game as a child.

1080
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 7: I played a little bit as a child, and then

1081
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 7: I got out of it, just like you know, life

1082
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 7: and anime gets less interesting as you experienced real world things.

1083
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 7: And then my buddy just randomly said, hey, you have

1084
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 7: your old cards, I have mine, Come on over. We

1085
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 7: started playing with it. This is probably like five years ago,

1086
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 7: and now you know, we have our own team. We're

1087
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 7: trying to be competitive and be like cool badasses.

1088
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: So now that you're you're older, but yet you tell

1089
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: me you still crave the feeling of being an anime protagonist.

1090
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's anything that you get out

1091
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: of your real, tangible life that you wouldn't get were

1092
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: you an anime protagonist?

1093
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 3: Probably more deeper side story lines.

1094
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 7: I work with people on a day to day basis,

1095
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 7: so everyone's little story makes up a whole different picture

1096
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 7: for me and the protagonist. Whenever you're watching those shows,

1097
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 7: you only see it through the protagonist. Sometimes writers are lazy,

1098
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 7: they'll go like a B side story going on with it.

1099
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 7: But yeah, because I work with people in their day

1100
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 7: to day lives to speak with them directly, I'm one

1101
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 7: of those people whereas you know, they just out of nowhere,

1102
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 7: will just open up unnecessarily, and in a matter of

1103
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 7: five minutes of meeting people, I know their whole life story.

1104
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty close to what you would

1105
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: get if you were an anime protagonist, where you go

1106
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: up to an NPC and they'll just tell you their

1107
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: whole thing, whatever it is, is going on with them.

1108
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: So you're, you know, as close as one could feasibly

1109
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: be to living that life.

1110
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 7: I never thought about it like that.

1111
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful insight.

1112
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, of course. Is there anything else you want

1113
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: to talk about?

1114
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 3: Dan? Now? Can I just do a shout out real

1115
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 3: quick before you hang up?

1116
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure? Who we shouting now?

1117
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 7: I'm gonna shout out to my friend Zach. He's my fatty,

1118
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 7: He's my man who's listening to the stream with those

1119
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 7: right now.

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Speaker 3: He's great people. You're great people. Thanks for taking my call, Matt.

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, of course, Thank you for calling Dan.

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: I was always more into into Pokemon the New gi Oh,

1124
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: but I didn't have a lot of friends growing up,

1125
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: so I know I never really played the game with me.

1126
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: I was so stupid. And you know what, It's weird,

1127
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: how like, as an eight year old, they design these

1128
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: very sort of intricate games, both the trading card game

1129
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: and the video game. Like when I play them now,

1130
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: I think to myself, how did I as Like? I mean,

1131
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,480
Speaker 1: I said eight, But it's probably like what six understand,

1132
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: like all the math involved of like HP and like

1133
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: you gotta selectively pick this move and like strategize and stuff.

1134
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like an intense strategy game, but

1135
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: I feel like it has enough strategy that a six

1136
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: year old would not know what the hell is going on.

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: It's not like Sonic or something where you can just

1138
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: sort of hit forward on the stick and jump every

1139
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: once in a while and you're good. Very surprised by

1140
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: that because I normally think of six year olds as

1141
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of dumb, but you need like of the slightest

1142
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: bit of IQ points available to you to do one

1143
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: of these RPGs.

1144
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: NEVERTHK goes on the line taking your phone calls every nine.

1145
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: Never bec goes to his teaching you cloud in the

1146
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: man of your Live, but he's not really an expert.