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Speaker 1: So what can I do for you today? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: is there, and you know it's it's quick within the

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Speaker 1: confines of YouTube. It's not a classroom environment. But it's

431
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Speaker 1: the idea that if you artificially were to enrich that

432
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Speaker 1: intake little propane, or if you pump the gas three

433
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Speaker 1: or four times real quick, couple of births out of

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Speaker 1: the engine, that will tend to run it a little

435
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Speaker 1: fat and you'll see that oh two cents or climb. Now,

436
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: while they're they're both gonna climb, they're both gonna change.

437
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Speaker 1: But um, we're we're our focus is the downstream. The downstream.

438
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Speaker 1: We want to look and see how different is it

439
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Speaker 1: than the upstream? All right, so you know that being said,

440
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Speaker 1: you know, we want to look and see where that goes.

441
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Speaker 1: If if the upstream is switching high to low, high

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Speaker 1: to low, and it's it's got the right frequency, length

443
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Speaker 1: of time, and how high and low it goes, that's good.

444
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Speaker 1: We want to look at the downstream. Does it hold

445
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Speaker 1: high except for when they run it through its test

446
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: they run the monitor doesn't do what it's supposed to do.

447
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: That sensor is good. We can start to think about

448
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Speaker 1: the cat. It's easy to think cat, but then we

449
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Speaker 1: also want to look at other things we want to consider.

450
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Speaker 1: Do we have an engine cooling temperature? Is that at

451
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Speaker 1: the proper? That actually brings me to a second part

452
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Speaker 1: of my question. You had mentioned that on last weekend

453
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Speaker 1: show when you read my question that you know, is

454
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Speaker 1: your thermostat um failed? Well, actually a couple of weeks ago,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, with upcoming spring and they're getting warm out

456
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Speaker 1: here in California, I did a coolt flush on the jeep,

457
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Speaker 1: took out the thermostat and kind of just flushed it

458
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Speaker 1: out with the garden hose kind of technique, refilled it

459
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Speaker 1: with the still water and some coolant, and ever since

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Speaker 1: then it's been running. The jeep runs when I'm driving

461
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Speaker 1: at about hundred fifty D sixty degrees and it's got

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Speaker 1: a degree thermostat in it. Now, if I sit an

463
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Speaker 1: idol for a while, it'll get up to until I

464
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Speaker 1: started driving again. Now, this P zero two zero comes

465
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Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks later, and I'm wondering if

466
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Speaker 1: they're related, and why isn't my temperature staying so low? Now? Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: let's well, I'll tell you what. Let's fix the temperature

468
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Speaker 1: problem first before we worry about the cat fall, because

469
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Speaker 1: one one may fix the other. Let me ask you this,

470
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Speaker 1: and you can tell me who it was. Whose brand

471
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Speaker 1: of thermostat is. I believe it's a stand I got

472
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Speaker 1: it down and now, okay, I would verify that with them.

473
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Speaker 1: And then my second question is are you sure it's

474
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Speaker 1: installed right? That it's not bypassing that it didn't it didn't.

475
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Speaker 1: You know how I do the jeeps. When I do

476
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Speaker 1: the jeep stats, I actually glue the stat into the

477
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Speaker 1: into the head. I'll actually put the stat into the head.

478
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Speaker 1: I take a little RTV, all right, and I put

479
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Speaker 1: the RTV on the gas get and then I put

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Speaker 1: that to the head and then I RTV the housing,

481
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Speaker 1: and then I slipped the housing over the STAT because

482
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Speaker 1: you have to get it between the STAT and the

483
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Speaker 1: serpentine belt that it's rubbing against right now. The other

484
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Speaker 1: trick I'll do is I'll make sure the two holes

485
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Speaker 1: to mount the thermostatic housing are absolutely free and clear,

486
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Speaker 1: and i will put a drop of oil on the

487
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Speaker 1: beginning of the threads and then a little liquid teflon.

488
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Speaker 1: And that bottom bolt that's so hard to get, I'll

489
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Speaker 1: actually reverse wine a piece of electrical tape and I'll

490
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Speaker 1: i'll glue it in place with the RTV. Then I'll

491
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Speaker 1: take a hook tool or my finger and I'll hold

492
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Speaker 1: the top of the bolt gently and then I'll pull

493
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Speaker 1: on the tape and it actually will start the threads

494
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Speaker 1: of the bolt in like I'm pulling a recoil starter

495
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Speaker 1: on a lawnmower. Oh wow, Yeah, that's trick all right.

496
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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the top one you can do

497
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Speaker 1: the same way if you want to practice. But the

498
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Speaker 1: top one is easier to get. The bottom one is

499
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Speaker 1: the tough one because the belts in the way. But

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Speaker 1: I would I would focus I would focus on the

501
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Speaker 1: temperature problem. First, I'd be very surprised if that's a

502
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Speaker 1: stand thermostat, I really would. I haven't seen one. I

503
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Speaker 1: haven't seen one out of the box bed and I

504
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: can't tell you how long, so I don't The thermostat itself,

505
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Speaker 1: I did not change. I probably should have, but I

506
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: just decided to do in the driveway one day and

507
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: the thermostat was working fine, I put the same one

508
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Speaker 1: back in. I know I shouldn't know, but well you can,

509
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Speaker 1: you can, depending upon how old it is. How old

510
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Speaker 1: is the thermostat question, Okay, have a deep a long time.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't remember changing it for quite some time. Then

512
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Speaker 1: then i'll tell you what. I'll save you the lecture.

513
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: Get out the stamp dot com and you can read

514
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Speaker 1: all about their thermostats and and and you know they'll

515
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Speaker 1: they'll talk about because you know, it's a thermostat on

516
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Speaker 1: an older vehicle like that, every three years, throw the

517
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: old one out, put a new one in. So let's

518
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Speaker 1: do that. Let's get let's get the thermostat working, let's

519
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Speaker 1: get some heat in the truck, and we'll we'll go

520
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Speaker 1: from there. Just make sure you've got you know, well,

521
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: you can't really have hoses hooked up wrong. Um, one

522
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: thing you could have disturbed was the cool intempt censor

523
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: which is right there in the housing too, right, So

524
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: make sure that's not damaged and you've got it plugged in.

525
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Obviously it's plugged in, right. But um, those are the

526
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: things we want to look at. Do those things for me, David.

527
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: You know where to find me Ron at Card Doctor

528
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: show dot com. And we'll talk a little bit more

529
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: after that, all right, buddy, alright, and you you send

530
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: me that email and I'll get you. I'll get you

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Speaker 1: your T shirt out to you. And uh, thanks for

532
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Speaker 1: being from a US though, the home of American graffiti.

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Speaker 1: You guys didn't think I knew that. So I'm run

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Speaker 1: on any of the Card Doctor eight five zero nine

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Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com has podcasts of this radio show.

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550
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Speaker 1: just trying to help you solve your car problem. Solving

551
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: car problems is what we're a bat. Let's go over

552
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: and talk to Robert up there in Union, Maine. I

553
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: believe that is with an O six Chevy Impella and

554
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: a stalling problem. Robert, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir.

555
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: How can I help? Well, thank you, sir. Um We

556
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Speaker 1: it's actually my son's car, and it's a two thousand

557
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: and six Impala and when I put it in gear

558
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: it immediately stalls. Hot cold Does it matter? It doesn't

559
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: matter when it first started doing this. It would be

560
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: um a little bit better if it warmed up. You

561
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: could get it in gear and you could go on

562
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: the highway. It seems to be fine, um, but when

563
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: you came to a stop light or you want to

564
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: take off again. You know, lot of times it would

565
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, stall again? Okay? And has it it's gotten

566
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: worse now to the point that it does it all

567
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the time, Yes, to the point now where he can't

568
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: even get it out of the driveway. And you know,

569
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I've I've changed some things on it, like what well,

570
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: I changed the temperature block sensor. I tried a new

571
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: gas cap. I thought I might ask something to do

572
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: with that. I changed the massive flow sensor and the

573
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: throttle body control. I changed the transmission fluid when went

574
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: four different times, Robert, When you say you changed the

575
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: throttle body control, you mean the throttle body itself or

576
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: the controller the controller. Let me let me ask you this.

577
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Any check engine light on, well, you can't keep it

578
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: running long enough to know, well it it idles, wonderful

579
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: that it'll it'll idle and prayers like a kN As

580
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: soon as you put in gear, it dies. The checkens

581
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: light is on and the only code that comes up,

582
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: uh is a piezer or four five five, And I

583
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: think that's evaporative emissions. Yeah, So let me ask you this,

584
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Speaker 1: are are you looking at the codes or is your

585
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: mechanic doing it? Uh? Okay, do you have the ability

586
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: to read fuel trim on your scan tool. No, I don't, Okay,

587
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, I would just be curious. Pizer or four

588
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: or five five is a large evapp leak. It shouldn't

589
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: be able to affect it. But I don't want to

590
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: say I don't want to say never unless I'm absolutely

591
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: there to look at a couple of things. But I'm

592
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: just I'm just thinking about a large vacuum leak that

593
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: would be affecting and causing a stalling condition like that.

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00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: It's not likely typically we make a vacuum leak on

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Speaker 1: a newer engine like that and it actually raises the

596
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: IDOL and it just excuse fuel trim and says idle

597
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: speed higher. But just just being to the cautious side

598
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: where I would look, has anybody looked at cleaned, replaced,

599
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: considered the attle body? We well, we didn't do that. Um,

600
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: that was one of the things we was I was

601
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: thinking about trying next, but I I didn't really know

602
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: for sure. Putting the expensive of the car a hundred

603
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand miles on it, and I was

604
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Speaker 1: sure of that it could be the problem that seemed

605
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: to idle so well, right, Well, let's let's let's do this,

606
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: uh and you can call me next week for more information,

607
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: but this week, clean the throttle body. Make sure it's spotless,

608
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: because what will happen is when they're cold, they build

609
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: up carbon. When they're cold, it sticks, and then when

610
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: it warms up, if it gets bad enough, it won't

611
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: open properly and it will cause the car to stall.

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00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: That's number one. In some cases the throttle body has

613
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Speaker 1: to be replaced because it's that bad, right, So, but

614
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: clean the throttle body. That's number one. Number two, there

615
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: is a reflash available for this with particular fault codes

616
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Speaker 1: PS nineteen, which is all about stalling issues with these cars,

617
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: so you may have to get this computer flashed to

618
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: the latest software. But first things first, let's take a

619
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Speaker 1: look at the throttle body. See what that looks like.

620
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Clean it. If you need me, either call next week

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Speaker 1: or Ron at Car Doctor show dot com and I'll

622
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Speaker 1: do what I can for you eight zero nine zero

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Speaker 1: zero Ron and in the Car Doctor back to wind

624
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Speaker 1: it down right after this, Welcome back the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Five five zero nine zero zero. We're not gonna take

626
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Speaker 1: any more calls to sour but just let you know

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Speaker 1: the phone number if you want to use it next

628
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Speaker 1: week or you want to leave a message. Ultimately, we

629
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Speaker 1: still get phone calls, oh, probably forty five minutes an

630
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Speaker 1: hour after we're off the year, but eight zero zero

631
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Speaker 1: you can call, leave a message and you'll give fast

632
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Speaker 1: Harry something to do when he gets back from vacation.

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Speaker 1: Since he's so fresh and ready to go, we want

634
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: to try and wear him out a little bit. And um,

635
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Speaker 1: everybody that calls this week, make sure make sure not

636
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Speaker 1: to ask him about the Kentucky vacation because I'm sure

637
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: it's a long story and you probably don't want to

638
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: hear it anyway. Quit piece of email. Hey Ron, I'm

639
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: trying to find the right car battery for my O

640
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: six Toyota Corolla, and I'm wondering what your thoughts are

641
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: in the best place to start to look up and

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Speaker 1: figure out what that is. I really have some issues

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Speaker 1: with putting smaller batteries in the vehicle. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: put the right size and I want as much battery

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Speaker 1: as I can possibly get. This is from Sue in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. So you know, batteries are simple and complicated today.

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Speaker 1: They really are. But there's still a couple of basic

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Speaker 1: rules that you want to go to. You talk about capacity.

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Speaker 1: You want to choose the right capacity because batteries have

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Speaker 1: varying capacities and varying qualities, and you'll usually see it

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Speaker 1: in the price of a battery. And the thing that

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Speaker 1: stuns me the most is people will always be concerned

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Speaker 1: about the price of the battery. I want to get

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Speaker 1: the cheapest battery I can. I'm trying to save money.

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Speaker 1: But yet they go outside two o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 1: they're working late, or they're they're out late, or and

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Speaker 1: it's in all kinds of weather and snow and rain

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Speaker 1: and et cetera, and they want to count on that

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Speaker 1: cheap battery to start the car. Makes absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 1: Spend as much money as you can afford on the battery.

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Speaker 1: To look up the capacity, you want to look at

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Speaker 1: group size, which is pretty simple. Cataloging will tell you

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Speaker 1: that if you look up cataloging online. You can go

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Speaker 1: out to O'Riley odo dot com for example, O'Riley Otoparts,

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Speaker 1: o'rileyoto dot com. They'll have catalogs there. You can look

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Speaker 1: up batteries. Take a look. You're looking for power frame

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Speaker 1: grid technology. You can read more about that at power

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Speaker 1: frame dot com and that will give you an education

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Speaker 1: on batteries till next week. I'm not anating in the

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Speaker 1: car doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive. If they're priceless, shows the

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Speaker 1: simple do