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Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.

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Speaker 2: Michael Very Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: This aspect of what is now being investigated as a

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Speaker 3: as a second attempted assassination of former President Trump has

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Speaker 3: been identified. If I already say, his name is Ryan

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Speaker 3: Wesley Roath. He allegedly poked his muzzle of his AK

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Speaker 3: forty seven star rifle through a Chanling fence as he

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Speaker 3: was hiding in the bushes of former President Trump's golf

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Speaker 3: course at West Palm Beach, Florida. That's when an agent

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Speaker 3: saw it and opened fire.

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Speaker 2: With a long history, you know, that's a little bit old.

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Speaker 4: That that archs a couple of months old.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to really see.

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Speaker 4: Something that said, take a look at what.

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Speaker 2: Happened over.

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Speaker 5: Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people

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Speaker 5: carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did

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Speaker 5: the president then at the time say, there were fine

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Speaker 5: people on each side, but.

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Speaker 4: You also had people that were very fine people on

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Speaker 4: both sides.

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Speaker 2: And you had people and.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white

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Speaker 4: nationalist because they should be condemned totally.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election. There

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Speaker 5: will be a blood bath if this and the outcome

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Speaker 5: of this election is not to his liking.

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Speaker 4: Those big monster car manufacturing plans that you're building in

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Speaker 4: Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that,

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Speaker 4: you're going to not hire Americans and you're going to

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Speaker 4: sell the cars. Now, We're going to put a one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent tower for in every single car that comes

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Speaker 4: across the line, and you're not going to be able

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Speaker 4: to sell those cards if I get elected. Now, if

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Speaker 4: I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath

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Speaker 4: for the whole that's going to be the least of it.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a blood bed for the country

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Speaker 4: that'll be.

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Speaker 6: The least want to be Trump assassin sentenced to life

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Speaker 6: in prison plus seven years or his twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: attempt on then presidential candidate then former president Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: at his West Palm Beach golf club.

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Speaker 2: The story from CBS News.

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Speaker 7: Ryan Routh had the opportunity to speak on his own

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Speaker 7: behalf in court today, and this is often an opportunity

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Speaker 7: for a defendant to show remorse and maybe hope for

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Speaker 7: some mercy from a judge. But that's one thing that

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Speaker 7: Ryan Routh did not say. He did not express any remorse.

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Speaker 7: What he did do is he had a twenty page

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Speaker 7: essay I'm told read, and he read from it. The

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Speaker 7: judge allowed for about fifteen minutes. In it, he talked

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Speaker 7: about wanting to be exchanged with a political prisoner around

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Speaker 7: the world. He mentioned Gaza and Hong Kong. He said

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Speaker 7: that he hoped that he could alleviate someone else's suffering.

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Speaker 7: Something that he has said throughout this process says is

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Speaker 7: that he is someone who is all about peace. During

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Speaker 7: the trial, he talked about being non violent and about gentleness.

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Speaker 7: The prosecution says otherwise, though. They say this was a

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Speaker 7: premeditated crime, that he tried to assassinate a major presidential candidate,

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Speaker 7: now our President Trump, and this was only stopped because

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Speaker 7: of a Secret Service agent who spotted Ryan Routh in

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Speaker 7: the fence line at Trump's golf course. Trump was just

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Speaker 7: one hole away when this happened. Judge Eileen Cannon today

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Speaker 7: she called that agent a hero reached. She also had

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Speaker 7: some very harsh words for Ryan Routh. She told him,

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Speaker 7: your criminal actions speak for themselves and go against your

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Speaker 7: And she also told him, you've feigned peacefulness throughout this

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Speaker 7: whole trial, but you are not a good man.

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Speaker 2: You think he is evil.

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Speaker 6: Charlie was assassinated speaking at a university trying to encourage

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Speaker 6: people to talk out their differences.

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Speaker 2: Rather than.

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Speaker 6: Take to violence, and they killed him for that. President

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Speaker 6: Trump was shot in the head. By all accounts, he

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Speaker 6: should have been dead. Think about that. He was a

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Speaker 6: I don't know if these people want civil war or not,

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Speaker 6: but I know if they wanted civil war, they're doing

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Speaker 6: Steve Scalise should, by all accounts, be dead.

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Speaker 2: He did die out on softball field.

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Speaker 6: Just Manister survive some way, somehow they shot They riddled

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Speaker 6: him with bullets. Another crazy Democrat shooting a Republican Rand

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Speaker 6: Paul out mowing the grass his own grass in Kentucky.

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Speaker 6: Rand Paul barely survived. That could have died, on and

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Speaker 6: on and on. We are under attacked by these bastards,

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Speaker 6: nothing short of it. Think about that. That's what's happening.

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Speaker 6: It's not our people. Oh, January sixth was a terrorist attack.

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Speaker 6: We were told that, you see, it was very important

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Speaker 6: to muddy the waters. Well, there's just too much violence everywhere.

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Speaker 6: January six was not a violent attack. There weren't any weapons.

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Speaker 6: There weren't any guns. Nobody would at risk. The worst

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Speaker 6: crime committed was somebody put their boots on Nancy Pelosi's desk.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 6: We were told they feared for their lives, but did

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Speaker 6: they The only shot that was fired was by Michael Byrd,

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Speaker 6: Capitol police officer, into an unarmed, tiny little woman who

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Speaker 6: posed no threat, who was also a veteran, and they

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Speaker 6: didn't want to release her information. They're attacking ICE agents,

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Speaker 6: they're blockading the streets, they're burning buildings. The left is

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Speaker 6: out of control, absolutely out of control. President Trump was

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Speaker 6: on MS was on US our NBC with Tony Lamas.

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Speaker 6: He was asked about the shooting deaths in Minnesota, and

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Speaker 6: he had this to say.

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Speaker 8: After the shooting of Vernade Good, you said ICE made

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Speaker 8: some mistakes. What were the mistakes. Well, look, I'm not

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Speaker 8: happy with the two incidents. It's not you know, it's

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Speaker 8: both of them got to one or the other. He

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Speaker 8: was not an angel and she was not an angel.

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Speaker 8: You know, you look at some tapes from back, but sal,

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Speaker 8: I'm not happy.

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Speaker 2: With what happened there.

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Speaker 6: You know what, this is important. Hold that I just russed.

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Speaker 6: We're up against the clock. I want to play that.

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Speaker 6: I think it's an important answer. I think I think

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Speaker 6: the president's thoughts on what's going on in this situation

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Speaker 6: is important.

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Speaker 2: But I want to be very clear.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to suggest that any death is not important,

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Speaker 6: because they are especially to the people around them.

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Speaker 2: But the one death of.

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Speaker 6: This person, there are a lot of people getting killed

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Speaker 6: in this country by the League of Aliens. They got

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Speaker 6: it all. I want you to imagine your life. This

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Speaker 6: a sporting performance. I want you to imagine in your life,

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Speaker 6: feeling righteous about it, and in that process you are

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Speaker 6: months until a trial where you will serve for life.

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Speaker 6: You don't need to be a Navy sealed to understand

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Speaker 6: the concept that these guys are supposed to have a

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Speaker 6: Congress who's just been elected that year, it's twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 6: and you're hearing that he's going to help you, and

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Speaker 6: you come to find out that not only did he

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Speaker 6: not help your case, that when fifty members of Congress

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Speaker 6: members of Congress five zero signed a letter for you

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Speaker 6: to be released so that you could prepare for trial.

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Speaker 6: You find out, as Eddie Gallagher did, that Dan Crenshaw

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Speaker 6: was going to those members and telling them don't support him.

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Speaker 6: There's a fascinating video about all this online. You can

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Speaker 6: see all of this. Just look up Eddie Gallagher, Dan

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Speaker 6: Crenshaw's it's out there. There are a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: And the video is I forget who the person is.

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Speaker 6: He asked Dan Crenshaw, Well, well, why don't you sit

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Speaker 6: down with Eddie Gallagher and talk this out?

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Speaker 2: Man demand.

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Speaker 6: And Crenshaw says, what is there to say? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 6: it feels like you helped try to keep him in

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Speaker 6: prison for life. And Crenshaw and the reviewer says, oop

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Speaker 6: of ball. I can't remember the guy's name. He says,

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Speaker 6: the veteran community hates you. Crenshaw's response is not everyone

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Speaker 6: in the veteran community. Maybe the vet bros. Wow, So

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Speaker 6: so you you fought with David Goggins because you don't

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Speaker 6: think he's Navy seal enough. You fought with Sean Ryan

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Speaker 6: because he asked a question about the stock trades you

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Speaker 6: so what we.

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Speaker 2: Just won't make any money? Then what we don't? We

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Speaker 2: don't make very much money? Whoa WHOA dude?

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Speaker 6: Is that when you went to Congress? Tucker Carlson questioned him,

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Speaker 6: is off I ever cutch him, I'll kill him. He

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Speaker 2: And the audience was blown away.

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Speaker 6: There is Dan Crenshaw that when people see they realize

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Speaker 6: Ham Sandwich. Steve Toath will make a great congressman. This

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Speaker 6: can't imagine how he doesn't take more drastic actions. He's

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Speaker 6: a more controlled man than I am. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 6: Eddie Galagher.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for having me. Folks.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you this story is so explosive

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Speaker 6: it will blow your mind.

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Speaker 2: You won't be able to believe that this actually happened. Eddie.

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Speaker 6: Let's start from I'm going to work in a reverse

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Speaker 6: linear fashion because I want to get to your background

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Speaker 6: and I want to get to all the ways that

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Speaker 6: you ended up where you were. But let's assume, for

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Speaker 6: somebody that's about to walk in the office, you're in jail.

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Speaker 6: You've been accused of killing a little girl and an

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Speaker 6: old man on Father's Day. Isis perhaps did that? And

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Speaker 6: you're sitting in jail, rotting, not able to prepare for

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Speaker 6: and then what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're correct on that. I was sitting in

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Speaker 1: pre facing those charges, and at that time, my wife

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Speaker 1: Andrea and my brother Sean were drastically taking measures to

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Speaker 1: get people to notice what was going on. They were

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Speaker 1: going to Congress, talking to every Congressman that they could.

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Speaker 1: At least my brother was at the time in one

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Speaker 6: We'll get to that. You were acquitted. The prosecutors were

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know, I think that's politics and a

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know, I disagree, Eddie. I've known a lot

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Speaker 2: Uh uh. I pray every.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Eddie Gallagher and I will be together tonight at a

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Speaker 6: It's the Michael Barry Show. Eddie Gallagher is known as

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Speaker 6: is what is known as a lifer, having spent not

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Speaker 6: They don't like that term. And to find out that

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Speaker 6: than anyone else, I can't imagine. And I admire the

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's one of the nicknames?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Do you care to share the others? Eddie Gallagher?

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Speaker 1: Share the story of how I got that name?

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Speaker 6: No, you said that's one of the names. Do you

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Speaker 6: have other nicknames that we.

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Speaker 2: Need to know about? Fast?

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Speaker 1: Eddie is the other one?

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Speaker 6: Sure tell the story about how you came to be

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Speaker 6: known as Blade.

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Speaker 1: Actually that that story is probably better not told publicly,

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Speaker 1: but I'll.

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Speaker 2: Just you know what, Yeah, yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: A long time ago.

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Speaker 6: I will be with Eddie Gallagher tonight at a Steve

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Speaker 6: TOAF campaign event. Both of us believe in this cause

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Speaker 6: and that's.

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Speaker 2: Why we're there.

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Speaker 6: You can go to the Steve Toath campaign online and

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Speaker 6: find out where it is. It may be sold out

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Speaker 6: a similar reason, I say, maybe at capacity. So that's

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Speaker 6: the only reason I'm sending you there rather than giving

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Speaker 6: the date. How did you get involved with Steve Toath, who,

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Speaker 6: by the way, I've known for many years, long before

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Speaker 6: he ran for Congress, and know him to be a good, decent, honorable,

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Speaker 6: honest man. And not only is he an alternative to Crenshaw,

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Speaker 6: I would support him if it was an open seat.

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Speaker 6: I think he's that type of man. But how did

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Speaker 6: you get involved with him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So, I, through a mutual friend of ours, Chad Robershaw,

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Speaker 1: had told me that Steve Toath was running against Dan,

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Speaker 1: or deciding to run against Dan. So we had connected

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Speaker 1: over the phone and I had invited him out to

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Speaker 1: come on podcast in Florida because I really wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to know the man who was going to be

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Speaker 1: running against Dan. I was excited that someone was running

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Speaker 1: against him, but I wanted to know where Steve stood

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Speaker 1: on his values and beliefs, and so I got to

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Speaker 1: spend time with him and his lovely life in for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days, and I share your same thoughts.

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Speaker 1: He's just a good human being. He's a man who

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Speaker 1: stands behind his values and belief and does not budge

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Speaker 1: on them. And so when I after the first couple

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Speaker 1: of days of hanging out with him, I couldn't have

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Speaker 1: been more excited that he was a man who was

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Speaker 1: going to replace Dan.

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Speaker 6: When when you see Dan Crinshaw in public, parading around

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Speaker 6: as you know, war hero, warmonger, all of.

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Speaker 2: These things, does that bother you? Or have you moved on?

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Speaker 2: How do you how do you view that?

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Speaker 1: No, anything Dan does does not really bother me. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's what bothers me is a fact that he is

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Speaker 1: representing not only the Seal community, but he's representing his

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Speaker 1: constituents in such a manner to where he does, not,

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Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, take accountability for his mistakes,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think just you know, I think

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Speaker 1: you admitted it, and I think a lot of other people.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had high expectations for Dan when he

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Speaker 1: came into office, because he came from the Seal background,

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Speaker 1: because he sacrificed for this country. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: do not measure a leader by yesterday's valor or while

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Speaker 1: ignoring his decisions today. So you know, we should judge

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Speaker 1: him by the direction he is taking us now, and

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Speaker 1: by the battles that he chooses now, and by whether

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Speaker 1: his actions today still reflect the values he asked us

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Speaker 1: to trust. And I think, you know, if the past

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Speaker 1: five years has shown us anything that Dan does not

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Speaker 1: embody the values that he ran on. He's continually making

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Speaker 1: mistakes and continually not holding himself account before it. He's

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Speaker 1: letting his ego get the better of him. And the

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Speaker 1: oath we owe to our country is not to a

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Speaker 1: man's history, but to our future. And when a man's leaders,

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Speaker 1: when a leader's present conduct no longer earns that trust,

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Speaker 1: the honorable response is not loyalty, it's accountability.

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Speaker 2: You said a lot, what made you want to serve?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a It's brought into me pretty much

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Speaker 1: every every male in my and my family has served.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I grew up in Omni Bratt,

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Speaker 1: I was around it, my dad was in the army

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four years, and I think it was

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Speaker 1: just something that in our family. It's it's a it

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Speaker 1: looks at as a thing of honor. You should serve

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Speaker 1: your country. If you want to live in this country,

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Speaker 1: you should serve it in some manner so you can

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Speaker 1: earn your spot here.

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Speaker 6: And you you did just about everything, and you've been

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Speaker 6: honored with just about every every merit. When you look

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Speaker 6: back on your service, obviously, some awful things were done

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Speaker 6: to you. And I've seen this happen with guys who

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Speaker 6: serve in the politics behind it. Did that sour your

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Speaker 6: sense of service that you had to go through that

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Speaker 6: living hell?

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Speaker 1: Not one that I've been asked that question numerous times before. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't regret ever signing up to serve my country.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I have My oldest son

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Speaker 1: is in the Marine Corps right now. He's serving this country,

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Speaker 1: and my youngest is starting to think about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: what happened to me is not due to the military.

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Speaker 1: It's just due to bad leaders that were put in place.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: And you can get that in any organization.

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Speaker 6: I've seen that happen with police officers who were wronged.

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Speaker 6: I've seen that happen in many, many capacities where good

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Speaker 6: men and women were wronged by bad people while doing

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Speaker 6: good work for the best of intentions. Dan Crenshaw got

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Speaker 6: involved to try to keep you in jail, you say,

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Speaker 6: and before your trial where you were at risk of

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Speaker 6: serving life in a case where others changed their testimony,

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Speaker 6: broke down on trial on the stand and said no, no,

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Speaker 6: he didn't do anything wrong. The prosecutor was reprimanded after all.

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Speaker 6: That's awful what you went through. One of the things

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Speaker 6: that has been alleged out of all of this is

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Speaker 6: that President Trump joined with the fifty members of Congress

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Speaker 6: who were looking for your case, looking for you to

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Speaker 6: be released so that you could prepare for the trial,

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Speaker 6: who found your case to be one that deserved more attention,

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Speaker 6: and that Crenshaw perhaps his hatred of Trump was the

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Speaker 6: reason that he was involved. On the other side, do

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Speaker 6: you think there's anything to that.

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Speaker 1: I can't say for certain that that's why he created

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Speaker 1: that second letter, was his hatred for Trump. What I

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Speaker 1: truly believe is that Dan Crenshall is an institutionalist and

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Speaker 1: he was going to do whatever the Institution of Naval

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Speaker 1: Special Warfare was doing at that time. And at that

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Speaker 1: time the leadership of navals Bush Special Warfare was targeting

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Speaker 1: me and wanting to put me away for life, and

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Speaker 1: so Dan I believe, was talking to them and just

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Speaker 1: doing their bidding.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting, isn't it How institutions like this find people

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Speaker 6: like you expendable, necessary, critical until the moment that you're

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Speaker 6: expendable and useful for another end. And yet there's always

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Speaker 6: a guy like a Crenshaw willing to serve that interest

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Speaker 6: for his own.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad movie plot.

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Speaker 6: Let me crap on this guy and ruin his life,

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Speaker 6: because then I'll win favor with the institution. Eddie Gallagher,

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Speaker 6: I look forward to spending some time with you this

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Speaker 6: evening on behalf of Steve Toth and shaking your hand

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Speaker 6: and thanking you for your service good sir, same both,

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Speaker 6: So thank you for having me on