WEBVTT - Joel Labelle 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.440 Hi, Joel, how are you. I'm good? How are you? 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:38.919 I'm good. I had to make it all the way 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.360 here from the seventies when I made it. Where are 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.880 you right now? I'm in Santa Fe. And where's dom 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.839 I don't know where Domma is there? Oh, Dona is 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:54.200 in your London right? Being international people I know? And 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.160 where are you? I'm in Toronto right now? Oh my god? 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:02.320 Three countries right, It's crazy, it's beautiful. How are you? Guys? Guys? 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:07.080 We made this work. We did. I'm glad that our 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.440 third choice could make it because our first two choices 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.959 obviously were busy. And then you know what, I kept 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.400 I kept delaying this, but I really had no work obligations. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.520 I was just like, now we're just creating the I 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.440 was like, diego, I'm on set, I'm busy, And the 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.720 whole time I was just at home at home doing nothing. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:35.119 Netflix the entire time. That's funny. Basically what this podcast 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.640 is we just Netflix and and talk about. UM, it's 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.720 nice to talk to you guys, man, this is nice. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.039 I'm actually shocked that we made it work because for 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.440 a while I was like, this is pointless. We were determined, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.480 we weren't going to let this go back. Okay, I 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.440 like it. I like it. Okay, full disclosure. I fucked up? 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.720 Oh wait wait can can I swear? What is? What 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.440 are the ground rules here, guys? Cat and I have 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.920 produces so you can do whatever you want basically like 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.320 and also if we don't like anything you say, we're 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:07.760 just going to cut it out. So it's not a 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.880 big deal. And how come I can't see your face? Dom? 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.560 Did you get what happened? I can see Cat? Why 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:18.760 can't I see it? Oh? Are you? I'm just wondering, like, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.919 have you been horribly disfigured? Have you gained? And there 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.800 you are? You beautiful man? Stop. I didn't want to 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.120 do the video, okay, so full disclosure. I woke up 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:35.400 at six am because I screwed up Pacific time SEM 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.720 and then I tried to log in and I was like, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.720 wait a minute, I got this backwards, So yeah, that's it, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.400 that's mine. It happens. It happened. Actually have a watch 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.760 upstairs that has the World time on it because I'm 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.440 constantly messing up my girlfriends in California, and I'm constantly 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.320 messing it up, so i'd like, do you see your 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:59.280 girlfriends in California? Was that girlfriends in California? I said? 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:06.200 Girlfriend is? And then is a fairly common grammatical colloquialism. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.040 You put like an apostrophe, and it's girlfriends as in 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.560 girlfriend is like a slightly shortened version of girlfriend. We 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:16.720 can get into her girlfriend is. That's what she just 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.440 text me. Someone's ears were burning. Hey are you in 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:25.840 your new house in in the UK right now? I am? 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:28.799 I just realized. Is this your first time owning a home? 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.519 It is my first time owning a home. I'm very, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.040 very excited about it. Although every morning is like some 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.320 new job that I need, some new like I'm like, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.560 I hate this, I am this, I'm fixing this. This 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.960 is going to happen. Hardwood floors is the next, the 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.160 next big project throughout the house. Nice. Yeah, home ownership is. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.720 Home ownership is awful. Are you in your home which 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.800 you own? I am in my home that I hope 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.560 that I own, and yes it is? It can't. I mean, actually, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.160 my son room right now because it's beautiful outside. Um, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.720 I have a sunroom. I'm literally kind of half outside 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.520 right now because it's like three d degrees outside. Is it? 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.400 And is it going to be super hot for the 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.840 rest of the world. That's like in sort of approaching 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.400 the nineties. Sorry for the Americans, UM, not the rest 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.280 of them. With the rest of the world, everyone else 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:23.760 does ctigrade. That's got a calculator out. I know I 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.960 can gues estimate. Is it has it been that hot 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.200 for a while. I'm at a bachelor party on uh 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.400 Saturday in Toronto. It's hot. It's been like this all summer. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.679 Been fantastic. It's been like sticky, my skin is glowing. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.960 It's good that love that. UM. I feel like we're 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.080 going to get down to any of our questions. By 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.479 the way, listen, I was just about trying to segue 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.040 as in there and you immediately interrupted me, and I 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.479 was like, this is I'm seeing a pattern forming here. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.960 So this is something that Dom and I love about 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.080 these deep dives is we get to learn so much 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.960 about people that we think we know, and we definitely 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.000 love um, but we you know, I'm sitting here looking 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:07.280 at at all of your tacts and your credits and 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.960 things that our lovely producers find about you. They basically 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.080 hire a private detective and they go like they figure 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.960 you out from so I didn't know all of this 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.280 stuff when you were in a teenager. So where did 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.599 you hide those bodies? That's fascinating. We know now you're 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.200 supposed to talk about that. I almost just want to 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.840 cancel this entire thing right now because I'm as to 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:34.120 what you guys found out about? No, no, no, um 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.279 what did you find out? Tell me? What did you 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.560 what? What What do you guys? See? Let's see. I mean 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.160 I knew all about the first thing on here is 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.120 like the adrenaline junkie side to you, and I knew 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.440 about that. We were just talking about that two days ago. Yeah, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:53.040 I mean, guys, I okay, we want to comp that. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.400 I mean, it's weird them because like I I don't 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.120 see myself like that. Like today, like today I have 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.440 it's my first day off in a while. So and 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.680 my wife. I got hurt at work two weeks ago, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.920 so my wife has been like, you need to take 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.680 it easy. You have to take it easy. And I 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.720 haven't been taking it easy. But like today, I'm just 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.640 gonna garden a little bit and play on my racing 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.560 simulator and like maybe work on my race car. So 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.480 like this is a chill day, so I'm not always 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.640 an adrenaline junkie. Your race car. Yeah, I blew up 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.559 the engine in my race car a few weeks ago too, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:32.120 So then that's so annoying. Yes, it's rebuild. I took 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.159 it out myself. My wife was in Portugal for three 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.719 days and it was the long weekend and I was like, Okay, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.000 nothing's shooting, I'm not working. I'm gonna just hunker down 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.800 and do it myself. Then we kind of have like 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.280 a little shop behind the house. Um. We got really 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.400 lucky when we found this house. Um, this is kind 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.799 of why we bought it because it has this beautiful garage. Anyway, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.160 so I was like, I'm gonna get this done in 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.680 three days. It ended up taking like a week and 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.800 a half. But it isn't a rebuild. I took an 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.839 old engine and put it into the car, a rebuilt engine. Okay. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.720 I used to be a mechanic before film. Okay, see 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.360 that's interesting. So how did you go from before? That 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:12.960 was boring? But what you just said this is my 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.160 This is my poor attempt at a segue. Um, so 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.280 let's go from that. So you were a mechanic, So 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.880 how do how does one go from mechanic two, did 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.600 you get into stunts? Are acting first? And then which 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.800 how did all of that tell us tell us about usual? 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.240 I'm gonna oh, man, guys, this is such a big 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.080 question because it's like this could be the entire this 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.400 could be the whole thing. So let's back well, I'll 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.440 back up, I'll back up. I'll back up. So my 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.600 mom was always into theater and as a kid, she 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.520 would like usher at all these at all these plays, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.440 and she would bring me and I would tag along. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.680 I did a lot of improv as a kid. I 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.800 was always in the theater groups in high school blah 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.440 blah blah blah blah. But I was also a kind 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.560 of a delink quick teenager. So then the minute I 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.560 finished high school, or actually I thought kicked out of 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.440 my high school the last year essentially, Yeah, so I 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.920 was I was peddling substances and they were like, look, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.240 they're like you haven't And my uncle was the counselor. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.640 And then my uncle like my mom's brother, and I 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.760 was like, look, Joel, he's like, we don't want you here. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.680 You don't want to be here. He's like, they're like, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.440 we will pay for you to go to a technical school. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.160 And learn a trade because you're probably not going to 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.239 amount to much more than you know, being a plumber, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.360 which there's nothing wrong with being a plumber, but they 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.080 were basically like at the time there was you know, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.200 these misconceptions about trades, and they were like, we just 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.760 need you out of the school. So then I loved 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.240 cars and I was drag racing cars illegally at night. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.880 So I was like, I'll just take a class on mechanics. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.160 This is great. So then they kicked me out and 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.720 I went to the school and that's how I finished 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.439 high school. I still have a recurring dream that I 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.360 didn't finish high school to this day, I don't know 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.920 how I finished. Hi, I don't remember high school anyway. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.760 So then I took mechanics and then I ended up 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.480 a job in a shop and I began a mechanic 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.800 for six years straight, like full time. Worked with these 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.520 really tough bikers, and they ended up being like they're 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.840 like fathers to me. They were at my wedding. Um 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.960 they basically I consider them like my fathers. These two 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.560 guys um that ran the shop. But they're like really tough, tough, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.600 old school, hard around the edges, kind of guys. Um. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.800 But while I was working as a mechanic, I was 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.680 taking acting classes at night, and I would take my 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.880 vacations if I booked something, or like if I landed 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.800 a job, I'd be like, can I please take a 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.199 week off or whatever? And then I would work at 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.320 like double shifts till like two in the morning, like 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.920 I just needed to figure it out. So then that 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.400 kept going. I was acting, but I was also a mechanic, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.840 and then I started bartending at night because I started 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.560 skydiving at the time and I needed to pay for 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.680 my sky diving habits. So this is like my red 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.560 out of high school. I'm working in a shop, I'm acting, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.920 I'm taking Scott Having lessons, and I'm bartending at night 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.320 and burning the candle at both ends. And then um, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.439 I was also trading kickboxing and became a semi profighter 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.480 for a little bit. So well, yeah, so all these 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.840 things are happening, and eventually I quit mechanics because I 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.560 go I want to be an actor, and I go 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.720 to university then get a four year essentially theater degree 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.280 because my mom and dad were like, you should get 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.440 an education. I was like, okay, fine, and then I 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.679 met a girl who was my girlfriend who's not my wife, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:29.000 And after I graduated university, she moved to Toronto. So 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.000 I was like, I don't have a choice. I have 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.040 to go to Toronto. So by the time I moved 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.480 to Toronto, I had been a semi profighter, I'd become 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.719 a professional skydiver, and I had been a mechanic, so 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.960 I had all these little things, and I had started 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.040 base jumping as well, So it kind of was like 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.520 the perfect melting pot to be a stuntman. But I 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.440 didn't know and I didn't plan it right. So eventually 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.600 I moved here and I failed miserably at acting. Like 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.120 is reply, I think I'm still failing. Highly doubt that, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.040 but it happens. That's learning curve. I think. I think 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.440 that's why we PU. It's so hard. You know, it's 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.360 one of the few, one of your few careers that 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.120 you just said, you're a professional app that you can 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.640 fail and not die. So that's pretty decent. You're allowed 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.440 to like fail a couple of times of being an 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.360 actor as a skydi as a professional skydiver, you fail 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.520 once and that's it. You're done. You're eating burgers through 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:35.400 a straw. Yeah, god. Now. So, yeah, I moved here, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.760 and I'm skipping a lot of stuff here, like at 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.760 one point I want to quit mechanics. My car broke down. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.160 I went back to the shop. I said, can you 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.000 guys fix the car? And they were like, oh, you're 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.720 an actor now, Oh why are you here? And they 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.720 were like, we're busy. Fix it yourself. I was like, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.640 oh my god. So I went in the back fixed 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.000 it myself and they were like, look, we don't know 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.920 what kind of they used to call it, like kissing classes. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.280 They were like, I don't know what kind of kissing 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.319 classes you're taking somewhere, but if you're not too busy 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.600 you mind, maybe you're helping us out in between your classes. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.600 So during my entire theater degree, I would leave my 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.760 classes and go back to the shop that was fifteen 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.360 minutes away and work on cars. So I was living 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.080 like a double life, and I'd be dirty and then 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.160 I go back to the university clean my hands and 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.040 then you know whatever, and then go take theater classes 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.600 and then all my electives. So I was just I'm 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.840 a bit of a workaholic, so I was constantly working anyway. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:32.319 So so I moved here, failed miserably tried to get 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.320 into stunts. Everyone shut the door on me. They said, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.720 don't bother, it's a family thing. And I was like, okay, 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.520 because there's a lot of nepotism everywhere in film, as 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.720 we all know. And uh, I said okay. And then 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.560 I was union at this point, but again failing. And 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.800 then I tried to get agents, and agents nobody wanted. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.559 Nobody wanted me, and I was like okay. So then 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.160 I just kept sky having, I kept bar attending, and 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.839 then eventually I got a shitty agent, landed a bit 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:04.040 of stuff. And then one woman in an acting class 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.840 came over to my house because we're running lines or 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.760 something I don't know, and she went in my bathroom 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.480 and saw a picture of me base jumping in Norway. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.480 She was like, is that you in the in that 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.240 picture in the bathroom? I was like, yeah, it's me. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.400 She's like, why, why aren't you a stunt man? I 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.079 was like, oh, I was like I tried failed. I 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.839 don't know. I was like, I have one credit from 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.720 back home in Winnipeg, and you know, the door has 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.800 been habitually shut on me. And she's like, let me 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.560 put you in touch with someone The next day, a 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.560 woman called me. She goes, My name's Alicia Turner. I 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:37.960 was giving your number. Do you want to do a 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.719 fight for m TV pace twenty bucks? That was the 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.920 per diem was twenty bucks. I was so broke. I 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.480 was like, I could use that. Yes, I'll do it. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.880 So they broke a bottle. Yeah, and I was so desperate. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.840 And then we did this fight and then broke the 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.760 bottle and then she was like, you should come over 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.839 to my house and and meet someone. So I met 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.559 another stunt woman and they were like, we think you 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:06.319 should pursue this. And these these two women literally completely 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.960 changed the course of my life, like literally just proof 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.000 a completely different direction. And then they said you got 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.760 it at the time you it was, you know, put 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.400 it on a CD, send it to the productions. And 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.840 I took a year to get this demo reel together, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.160 and you know, headshots, blah blah blah, and it would 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.920 send these stats, these massive stacks at the post office 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.360 to every production. I just kept doing that for months. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.200 I think, probably you're and eventually I got a phone call. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.280 They're like, hey, come on down, and I was like okay. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.760 And then oddly so at the same time, a good 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.600 agent in town lost a guy that looked like me. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.480 He moved to l A or I don't know, and 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.280 they're like, you want audition for something? And I was like, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.240 how do you guys even get my number? It's like, no, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.280 I'm not interested. They kept bugging me, and I was like, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.160 final audition for this, but I don't want to be 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.800 an actor. I don't want to act. I hate actors. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.120 Like I was just like over it. And then I 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:03.560 almost got this this thing. Yeah, and they were like, look, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.080 come into the office, give us a year, give us 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.520 a year, and let's just see what happens. So all 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.960 of a sudden things started moving. And then now I've 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.680 been doing this for twelve years. I think I'm almost already. Guys, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.680 who was fault? It's got to have and keep too young? 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:27.320 Apparently that's the botox. But sure, Wow, I have so 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.960 many questions because you were just talking NonStop for like 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:36.680 eighteen minutes. I'm sorry, I'm just like my origin stories, yourself, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.480 my origin stories. Big um, don't let you. This is 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.960 what we're here for. We're here here you talk. They're 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.760 sick of us talking. This is all about you. I've 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.960 missed you. This is how we used to talk to 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.240 each other on set. People people thought we hated each other. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.240 Oh dude, I actually do you guys know we brand 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:01.880 into Isaiah like two months ago. No. No. So my friend, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.040 one of my best friends, as a stunt coordinator and 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.840 he coordinates a bunch of stuff and I helped him 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.560 build stunts and like I can because I was a mechanic, 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.120 I helped him like rig up stuff and everything. And 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.960 he called me and he's like, look, I need help 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.480 on this commercial. I was like, okay, cool, whatever. He's like, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.720 it's just a day, pays this much, super good, pay, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.920 super chilled. I was like yeah, and he's like it's 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.200 an old spice commercial. I was like okay cool. And 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.080 then he's like yeah, apparently you know one of the guys. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.680 I was like who and then he's like Isaiah Mustaf. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.320 I was like oh, oh yeah, and I was like 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.800 oh no. I was like oh no. The minute and 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.680 then he texted me like two days laters, like I 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.120 heard you're working with me And I was in charge 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.000 of his safety that day. The minute I walked on set, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:51.360 his professionalism must have dropped a solid for like, they 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.200 literally walked up to me and they were like, what 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.080 did you do to the there? Like the minute you 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.480 walked through the door, he basically they were rolling and 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.880 he basically just walked out of frame. And it's just like, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:07.679 oh it was. It was ridiculous, so obsessional, but it 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.480 was so good to see it. It was it was 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.720 so nice to see him. But yeah, yeah, the banter 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.160 back and forth on Shadow Hunters was nice. It was 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.800 arguably sometimes got in the way of work, but hey, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:25.120 I keep working like this to this day. My professionalism 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:30.280 hasn't changed in one like one iota. Anything I've done 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:36.720 well today broke down six And I mean, guys, we 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.879 work long hours. We never know when when our schedules 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.360 are money comes, we make a ship ton of money, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.240 then we make no money. You know, things come, things go. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.920 It's just like, we might as well have fun while 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.959 we're while we're going through this journey exactly. Look, if 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.919 you're going to be you know, jumping off of stuff 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.600 or covered in fake blood or crying for seventeen hours 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.200 a day, you might as well have fun while you're 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.359 doing it. Right. My favorite show I think of you 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.359 in the entire show is that shot right at the 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.880 end where we haven't reached this yet in the podcast, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.040 but the shot right in the end where you're spoiler 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.080 and and you're like half werewolf transformation, you had those 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.160 massive teeth in you can close your mouth and you're 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.800 just like lying there with your eyes open, but it's 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.879 just like all teeth in your mouth. That is my 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.399 favorite shot. I remember that day. I feel like those teeth. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.719 I feel like, at like eight am, they were like 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.920 who's got the teeth? And everyone each other and it's 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.399 like and they were like and they were like, do 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.040 we not have teeth? And they were like and I 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.679 feel like someone ran into Dollar Rama and got like 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.800 teeth because like I put them in my mouth and 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.760 I was like, I was like, what the what is 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.880 this guy's I definitely feel like the drop the ball 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:51.639 was dropped on the teeth. Yeah. I once turned up 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.080 on set and the makeup artist went, oh, you have 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.720 different this isn't on shadow answers and when you have 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.879 different colder eyes, and I was like, yeah, yes I do. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.679 They were like ah shit and had to fix it 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.720 that like that day because the character I was playing 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.439 did not have different colored eyes. But it was like 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.680 two in the morning and they were just like, oh, well, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.000 we funked up pretty badly here, and I learned from 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.600 that that now I mentioned it in auditions all the time. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.119 I was like, by the way, I don't know even noticed, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.479 but they don't match. And they're like, oh, yeah, we noticed. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.800 Does that happen after not as much anymore they try 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.159 and match them. Uh, it's well so not anymore. No, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.840 this job, I was playing a real person who existed, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.040 so with his eye color had to be a very 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.439 specific thing. Um. The two actually, the two times that 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.040 the character was based on books and had a particular 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.720 eye color was Shadow Hunters and was Vampire Academy, and 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.200 both of those directors were like McGee and Mark Waters 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.199 were both like, we love your eyes, but there's no 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.560 way we're going to change them. And I was like, oh, 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.440 you guys are the best. That's really sweet. Yeah, but 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.120 the kid, but I didn't say anything about the eye 0:19:54.119 --> 0:20:00.000 color for shadow Hunters that it yeah, yeah, eyes are yeah. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.359 So it would have contact lenses, yeah they're gold. Yeah, 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.800 but we've you know, dumb so brilliantly found a way 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.160 to tie it in by making a suggestion of hey, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.560 when we do the Rooney Gold Powers, let's make his 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:37.600 eyes glow with the rest, and they did so. I 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.800 how do you you said, you become a professional skydiver? 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.960 Where does that do you pay? Who pays you to 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.080 just jump out of an airplane? Yeah? How do you 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:48.760 do that? How do you become a professional? How do 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.200 you monetize it? You? I mean, there's not that many 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:56.720 ways of monetizing it. There's really so you the natural 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.679 progression or the more I should say, the most popular 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.359 progression is, you know, you become a consummate skydiver, and 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.679 then you become a coach, which pays it bit. But 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.480 I would say this, it pays for the the sport, 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.680 Like you just end up getting to a point where 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.920 you're no longer hemorrhaging money. It's just kind of paying 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:15.840 for itself. And then after that you could become a 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:20.040 videographer or a tandem instructor. I see, yeah, and those 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.640 guys like if you're making a very comfortable living, I'd say, 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.680 like you're making probably a hundred grand a year to 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:31.320 be a tandem instructor and you're working. Yeah, and then 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.840 if you are really good, you become like a sponsored athlete, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.520 and then they usually like read bull, I know, if 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.080 you read bull guys. They're usually on a few d K. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.600 You're not much like these people aren't rich or anything, 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.880