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Speaker 1: So news and update. Yesterday, I had a long talk

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Speaker 1: with my lawyer. He will handle everything so we can

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Speaker 1: divorce here where we live, so it won't be in

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Speaker 1: Europe like like we thought it might be. It will

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Speaker 1: be her home.

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Speaker 2: That never made sense to me, because why would it

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Speaker 2: even be in Europe. That their entire relationship, all the kids,

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Speaker 2: everything has happened in Asia.

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Speaker 1: Logically, I don't know. Now attracts attracts. It will be

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Speaker 1: a tough process, but we are ready. He also gave

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Speaker 1: me the contact information of a lawyer in the country

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Speaker 1: where we married. That lawyer told me that based on

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Speaker 1: everything I've shared, I am in a great position. We're

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Speaker 1: covered in the current home country, We're covered in the

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Speaker 1: married country. We're looking good. So I'm literally building two

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Speaker 1: cases just in case, just just as a backup, just

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Speaker 1: in case, just in case I need a divorce her

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Speaker 1: here in Asia, not in Europe. If I divorced in

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Speaker 1: the country where we live or where we married, there

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Speaker 1: are huge chances the kids will stay with me. The

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Speaker 1: EU courts have zero jurisdiction here, so if she ever

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Speaker 1: thinks she can send the kids to Europe with her,

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Speaker 1: she can only dream. According to my lawyers. The court

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Speaker 1: would keep the kids here because two of them are

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Speaker 1: already in school. They spent their whole lives here. I'm

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Speaker 1: working and she is not. That actually probably plays hey,

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Speaker 1: you can literally provide them a like a life and

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Speaker 1: maintain everything. That probably bodes super well in his favor.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, well, yeah, they were born here, their

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Speaker 2: whole life has been here, they speak the language here,

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Speaker 2: and he.

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Speaker 1: Can house and pay for everything for them. Yeah, give

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Speaker 1: him a really.

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Speaker 3: Great Nay, I make all of the money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, Mandy, your set. I have a house, financial stability,

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Speaker 1: and residency status. She could appeal in her own country,

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Speaker 1: where she'd have better chances, but that process could take years.

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Speaker 1: I can delay it in multiple ways, and my kids

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed to leave the country without me permitting it.

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Speaker 1: That's great. I feel like that's how he wrote it.

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Speaker 1: It's so great. That's just great. I've sent all the

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Speaker 1: details about the house, cars, bay accounts, everything all to

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Speaker 1: my lawyer, and he's building the case. I also agreed

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Speaker 1: with him to make a deal for her. She can

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Speaker 1: keep the house and the car, but I will have

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Speaker 1: primary custody. Or I can keep the house and pay

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Speaker 1: for her to live in a place and will share custody.

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Speaker 1: Anything else I won't accept. When I came back home

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Speaker 1: from work, she was waiting with me for the kids. Again,

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Speaker 1: she looked good. Hope, we can't even deny it. We

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Speaker 1: went out as a family during the evening. I had

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Speaker 1: a great time with the kids, but I couldn't stand

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Speaker 1: being around her. When we got home, she tried to

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Speaker 1: initiate spicy sleep, but I politely refused. She laughed while

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Speaker 1: reminiscing about nice moments from our past most of the

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Speaker 1: night in bed. So I had to ask myself, is

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Speaker 1: she completely out of her mind?

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy?

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Speaker 1: Talk to me?

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Speaker 3: Well do it now?

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Speaker 4: Shoot?

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Speaker 2: Shoot, she's I mean, she could just be a little

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Speaker 2: a sociopath, and she could just be a brilliant liar,

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Speaker 2: and she could just be But the way that she's acting,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, did she cheat on this guy? Like, is

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Speaker 2: there any way is this guy just her gay best friend?

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Speaker 3: Her secret gave best friend? No?

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Speaker 1: Because I not.

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Speaker 2: There's only one context in which, like, I feel like

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Speaker 2: a girl would send nudes to another guy that's not

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Speaker 2: her husband, and it would be if he's their gay

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Speaker 2: best friend.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, just the thought crazy, What what what what

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Speaker 1: if she pleads insanity and says, I had uh mental

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Speaker 1: issues where my my my second half would come alive

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Speaker 1: like severance. Oh where it's like she's got you know,

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Speaker 1: like the multiple. I boot up my my other personality,

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Speaker 1: my other personal what do they call him? Uh split

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Speaker 1: mini me many mini my mini.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I mean it's possibly. Could.

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Speaker 2: I think I think they might have a might have

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that.

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Speaker 4: Brody Haidy Brown and says conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: She's preggers with the ap partners, so that's why she

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Speaker 3: wants to stay, or she knows how to do this,

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Speaker 3: the sayer first.

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Speaker 2: Rodeo, Yeah, I mean that's why she could either be

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Speaker 2: just a really good sociopath or yeah, something else, fugue state,

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Speaker 2: potentially avery from the swamps.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, dude, the pregnant with the pregnant with a

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Speaker 1: fair baby and not first Rodeo, those seem like very

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Speaker 1: we do have a lot of parts. Yeah, we might

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Speaker 1: see that. So getting back to it today, she drove

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Speaker 1: the kids to school in kindergarten. Before I left the house,

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Speaker 1: I took all the papers I needed in my suits.

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Speaker 1: Some clothes and I left. I decided yesterday that I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't confront her. Still, no confrontation directly because of the kids.

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Speaker 1: That's They're always near us and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make them traumatized by this. While I was at work,

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Speaker 1: she was texting me about planets with tonight. I acted

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Speaker 1: like everything was fine because I thought she could come

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Speaker 1: to my work if I confronted her then, and that

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Speaker 1: would cause huge problems for me at work. When she

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Speaker 1: texted me at three pm that the kids were home

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Speaker 1: and eating, I knew that was the moment. I finished

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Speaker 1: work shortly after, left her some money in the joint

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Speaker 1: quote unquote my account, all the subtle digs, and transfer

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Speaker 1: everything else to my personal account. I sent her a

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Speaker 1: text at four or five pm. The funniest thing, with

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Speaker 1: all the evidence I have, I still can't believe this

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Speaker 1: is reality. Eleven years. I want to tell you so

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Speaker 1: many things right now, but I am so disgusted by you.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to end this as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: You have made your choice, and now I'm making mine.

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Speaker 1: You can stay tonight tomorrow after the kids leave for school.

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Speaker 1: I want to see you out of my house. Don't

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Speaker 1: try to do something stupid with the kids, you'll just

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Speaker 1: have bigger problems. I am ready for every scenario. My

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Speaker 1: lawyers already. Oh, be normal, and we can end this

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Speaker 1: in the most normal way possible. Everything else would just

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Speaker 1: be put in the worst position possible. At the end.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I want all the best for you,

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Speaker 1: but if your best is away from me, then I

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Speaker 1: want Then I want all the best for you. Don't

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Speaker 1: call me, and I repeat, don't do something stupid, because

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Speaker 1: I will not tolerate that. My lawyer will contact you

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Speaker 1: about the kids immediately. When you leave the house. You

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Speaker 1: can meet me and be with him every day, but

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to enter the property after everything you did. PS.

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Speaker 1: You look good in those nude pictures you sent in

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Speaker 1: a fair partner. Dude.

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Speaker 3: I bet he was shaking when you said that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, hush god, yeah, send dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some trembles in those hands sending that.

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Speaker 1: Bro is Yeah, bro is foaming at the mouth.

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Speaker 2: Has been waiting to send that since he found out

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Speaker 2: about it. Oh my, it has been. It's been leading

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Speaker 2: up to that moment for him. Wow, let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: She was online when I sent the message. But didn't

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Speaker 1: respond or call for the next twenty minutes. I wish

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Speaker 1: I could have seen her face during those twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: During that time, I called a fair partner. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: what wait wait wait wait wait wait oh yeah, oh yeah, how.

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Speaker 3: Did he have his contact information because it was on her?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah that's true. True? Sure read write his stories, bro,

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Speaker 3: come on true. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: He rejected the call and sent a message asking who

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Speaker 1: is this number? Who this? I called again and he answered.

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Speaker 1: I told him that I wouldn't do anything to him.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to have a normal conversation as OPI

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Speaker 1: the same normal type of conversation of the text that

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Speaker 1: I told him that if he had any human decency,

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Speaker 1: he would meet me wherever and whenever he wanted. All day.

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Speaker 1: I thought he would reject the meeting, but instead he

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Speaker 1: apologized to me and asked me where I was. Oh, bro,

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Speaker 1: this is not gonna this is not gonna. I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is gonna end well for OP. We talked

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Speaker 1: about it. He's gonna go overboard. He's gonna make it

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Speaker 1: more complicated for himself than he meets. Dude, I explained

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Speaker 1: to him where I was, and he told me where

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Speaker 1: he was, and we decided to meet at five point

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Speaker 1: thirty pm at a bar near his apartment. When my

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Speaker 1: D and D you B nice. Yeah, the affair partner

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Speaker 1: was waiting for me. I saw him looking at me

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Speaker 1: from at least ten meters away. I was audio recording

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Speaker 1: the whole meeting. Of course he knew what I looked like.

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Speaker 1: My wife has pictures of us on our Instagram and

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Speaker 1: uses our photo as her profile on WhatsApp and line

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Speaker 1: another text messaging app. What a lovely wife. He immediately

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Speaker 1: asked me if he could say everything, and after that

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Speaker 1: I could ask him whatever I wanted. I told him

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Speaker 1: he could, but only after he told me everything about himself.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old from a European country, as

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Speaker 1: I had assumed. He doesn't have a girlfriend or a wife,

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Speaker 1: no kids. He lives here year round and just quote

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Speaker 1: unquote enjoys his life. Disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like he's enjoying your wife. Oh dude, hope

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Speaker 2: he's about to sue you, bro.

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Speaker 1: I get ready for his wrath. He's an attractive young

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Speaker 1: guy who seems like someone who just wants to hook

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Speaker 1: up with girls. He then started talking about how he

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Speaker 1: met my wife. They met at a restaurant slash club

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Speaker 1: in early August. He was with friends, she was with hers.

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Speaker 1: I knew about this because she had asked me if

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Speaker 1: she could go out with some friends together. After a while,

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Speaker 1: they all started sitting together. They talked a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and he gave her his Instagram when one of her

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Speaker 1: friends asked for it. He said that she wasn't being

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Speaker 1: flirty that day. He noticed her ring and assumed she

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Speaker 1: was married, so he didn't think she wanted anything. He

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Speaker 1: showed me a message between them on other apps that

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Speaker 1: from there they talked more and more. She told him

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Speaker 1: she loved me, but that I had cheated on her.

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Speaker 1: I've never looked at, let alone touched another woman since

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Speaker 1: I met her a month before, and that this was

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Speaker 1: revenge for her. WHOA, WHOA that?

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Speaker 3: Does she believe that? Or is that a lie? Because

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Speaker 3: if that's if she'd look Oh.

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Speaker 2: The plot has thickened like a good gravy.

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Speaker 1: When I heard that, I nearly vomited barfed. She said

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Speaker 1: this before or after their first time being physical together.

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Speaker 1: He told me that they had had spicy sleep four times,

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Speaker 1: one round each time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a real good.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get more details. Let's get more details in there.

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Speaker 1: How many pumps per around Whenever they met. She would

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Speaker 1: act nervous afterwards and would always say it was wrong

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Speaker 1: and then leave shortly afterward. He was confused by her

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Speaker 1: behavior and even texted her telling her not to meet anymore.

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Speaker 1: According to him, she cried the last time they met

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Speaker 1: and said that this was over and that she had

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Speaker 1: made the worst mistake of her life. She told him

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Speaker 1: that she loved me and that even though I had

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Speaker 1: Well, they're knocking on the door. Swat team, get her

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Speaker 1: Why did you tell him? I hate you destroyed my life?

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Speaker 2: No, actually that's not what happened. Your husband already knew

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Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna blow up in his face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought something was definitely gonna go wrong. He's

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Speaker 1: I don't give a dang darn diddaly what you want

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Speaker 1: Answer the question her? What question him? Why did you lie?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm an idiot and I like attention. I lost

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's aware, she's self aware because I'm an idiot

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Speaker 1: Hello, how does he know about this? If you didn't

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Speaker 1: I know you told him everything. I hate you. You

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Speaker 3: She for for the to make the record so crystal clear.

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Speaker 2: You destroyed you, you idiot.

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Speaker 3: The only one who destroyed anything was you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, uh, Dakota, I forgot what when when you make

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Speaker 3: You made that bed? Now you lay down in it?

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Speaker 1: He kept apologizing like crazy, saying that if he had

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Speaker 1: He said. I didn't have to believe him, but that

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Speaker 3: You lose your wife, but you find your husband.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I'm just putting it out there. We'll

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Speaker 1: He asked me what I wanted to do about her

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Speaker 1: He told me if I needed anything, I could call him.

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Speaker 1: We even shook hands. If someone had told me a

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: I didn't marry him, but you could.

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Speaker 3: You definitely could.

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Speaker 1: You could marry a man start a business together. I

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Speaker 1: He told me that with everything that the affair partner

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Speaker 3: And we will.

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Speaker 1: We will never abandon you or or get with the

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Speaker 3: We'll just be here. We'll be chilling.

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Speaker 1: I have a great time, so to have the profile

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Speaker 3: You lost a wife, you found a brother.

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Speaker 1: You lost the congratulations. Maybe you work, maybe your work husband.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you were work husband, brother in uh brother in arms.

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Speaker 1: were surprised that the affair partner meeting actually like went well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in retrospect, now that we've seen everything that he's done

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Speaker 2: And I think they did, But now that I I mean,

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Speaker 2: had did she like snap?

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Speaker 1: There's an op and unreliable narrator on how they've been I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not really not necessarily that, but just more like what

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Speaker 2: she was doing. Yes, why why did she do it

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Speaker 2: might be more willing to work through it. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: does get no obligation, though I don't want.

437
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Speaker 1: To necessarily use the word overreacted. But he seems it

438
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Speaker 1: seems like again, like like we've said, like he might

439
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Speaker 1: do the fair part of the things somehow worked out

440
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Speaker 1: kind of flawlessly in his favor, but I still have

441
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Speaker 1: a feeling like he could do something that's like od

442
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Speaker 1: that might come back to bite him in the butt later.

443
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Seems very level headed so far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually as like crazed as he sounds when

446
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Speaker 1: describing the situation. His actions are actually like very like

447
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Speaker 1: calculated and thorough and like pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He's not moving, he's not moving with emotion, He's moving

449
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Speaker 2: with rationality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So maybe maybe everything goes flawlessly. But let's see,

451
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Speaker 1: let's close out this here part. Now, I'm in a hotel.

452
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Speaker 1: I didn't block my wife. She sent me a billion

453
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Speaker 1: messages and called me at least one hundred times. Even

454
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Speaker 1: my friends called me asking where I am because my

455
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Speaker 1: wife told them. We had a huge fight, and I

456
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Speaker 1: left the house. In the morning, when my kids leave

457
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Speaker 1: for school in kindergarten, I will confront her face to face.

458
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Speaker 1: Then in the afternoon, I'll get the DNA test done

459
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Speaker 1: on the kids. Wow, that'll be a big day. Stick

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Speaker 1: around for part two in the next episode.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 1: I took some time off work this week, so I

463
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Speaker 1: have to deal with everything that's it. I know some

464
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Speaker 1: of you will tell me what I should or should

465
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Speaker 1: not do, but I'm doing my best. It's much easier

466
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Speaker 1: to give advice from behind a screen than to actually

467
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Speaker 1: live through this crap and go through the roller coaster

468
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Speaker 1: of emotions. It ain't that this is by far the

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Speaker 1: worst period in my life. I would be horrified to

470
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Speaker 1: know what would have been worse if it wasn't. And

471
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Speaker 1: I've been through some really crappy situations before. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. I don't know if I'll update this again.

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Speaker 1: Probably not, Oh he will, But if I don't, just

474
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Speaker 1: be smarter than I was. Thank you all and take

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Speaker 1: care and we have to love and comments Here commenter says,

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing great. I would do everything that

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Speaker 1: you're doing too. She decided to trash her family. If

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Speaker 1: the roles were reversed, women would be calling her a

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Speaker 1: bead ass for standing up for herself. You are going

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Speaker 1: to get through this. She may be sorry, but the

481
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: damage is already done and she knows it really sad

482
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: when most of us just want to be loved and

483
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Speaker 1: in a monogamous relationship. Why else would anyone decide to

484
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Speaker 1: get married. If only cheaters could meet with like minded

485
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Speaker 1: people and they can all cheat on each other while

486
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Speaker 1: the rest of us do what we want and we

487
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Speaker 1: could just live out our lives with our families, right

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Speaker 1: Wishing you peace and update me, ladies and gentlemen. The

489
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Speaker 1: DNA test reveal the first face to face confrontation is

490
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Speaker 1: about to happen in the next episode in part two. Wow,

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Speaker 1: there's more in this five part series five Count them up?

492
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Speaker 1: The divorce proceedings. What will happen to the kid? It's

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Speaker 1: that's all way later down in the line.

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Speaker 3: The stage has been set.

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Speaker 1: The stage has been set. But as for now, that's

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Speaker 1: all we have. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you love us,

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Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe.

498
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Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow in part two.

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Speaker 1: In part two, this is an episode from deep within

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Speaker 1: the archives. Time for okop ree lamb. My husband has

501
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Speaker 1: a secret family.

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Speaker 5: Turns out that's not the worst of it, and I'm

503
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Speaker 5: thinking about leaving him.

504
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Speaker 1: Am I the A hole?

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Speaker 4: I didn't register any of that. Sorry?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Sophia?

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Speaker 4: Once soon?

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Speaker 1: No processing processing? How is that delayed?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Guy has a whole secret family and that's not the

511
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Speaker 1: worst of it.

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Speaker 4: No, that's awful. Why why would why would op be

513
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Speaker 4: the a hole? That's horrible.

514
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I guess we'll find out. Also, this is my says

516
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 5: herself via Hello. She's subbing in for John while he's sick.

517
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: I learned about seven months after a wedding that he'd

518
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Speaker 5: actually been engaged to someone else let's call her Amanda

519
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Speaker 5: at the time we met. What So basically he's like, oh,

520
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: that girl is looking like a snack. Yeah, well he

521
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: was already engaged. He's like, mmmm, oh Pete, damn, you

522
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Speaker 5: so fine. And then he's like, screw that engagement.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I want to engagements for the price of engagements.

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Speaker 1: Do I live in Guta or am I just a dick?

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Speaker 6: If you order now for nineteen ninety nine, you can

526
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Speaker 6: get to engagements.

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Speaker 5: Ah on, get it, get it while it's hot. He

528
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Speaker 5: claimed he was worried about hurting her as they had

529
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Speaker 5: been together since high school.

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Speaker 4: What bro, of course they hurt about that's crazy.

531
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Speaker 5: However, what hurt me most is that he did not

532
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Speaker 5: call off their engagement until he proposed to me.

533
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Speaker 4: What so they were both engaged.

534
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 5: He had two engagements going at the same time. Engagement,

535
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Speaker 5: So many engagement engagement bro, I get y. Yeah, dating

536
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Speaker 5: one person and is hard enough.

537
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Speaker 4: I don't know how people he's preparing for two weddings.

538
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, Yeah, preparing for a wedding is nuts, dude, man,

539
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 5: And like you have to do like non refundable deposits

540
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Speaker 5: as well?

541
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Speaker 4: So did he like book the venues?

542
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll see how much of a dick

543
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Speaker 1: this guy is.

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Speaker 5: We've worked through that issue thanks to therapy, and we

545
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: continued to still go to therapy.

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Speaker 1: You worked through that? Is that not a red flag?

547
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: O piece?

548
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can work through that. I'm sorry,

549
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. That's Would that be.

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Speaker 6: A deal break for you if someone was engaged to

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Speaker 6: someone else.

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Speaker 5: The whole time, the whole freaking part of the relationship

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Speaker 5: where they're not engaged.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean hopefully not that long.

555
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Speaker 4: But oh my god.

556
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Speaker 5: I mean usually you date someone for like at least

557
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Speaker 5: a year before you get engaged, and.

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Speaker 4: She didn't know until seven months after.

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Speaker 5: That's cheating, is it nuts?

560
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Speaker 4: Like cheating?

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Speaker 5: Early last week I discovered I was pregnant with our

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Speaker 5: third child.

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Speaker 1: Yes, two other.

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Speaker 4: Children with this frick Maybe why she wanted to make

565
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Speaker 4: it work because they had children. But still no, this

566
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Speaker 4: is going.

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Speaker 1: Forward in time, so they are so I think they were.

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Speaker 4: No, well she couldn't.

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Speaker 5: So basically they worked through the whole thing of them cheating,

570
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Speaker 5: and then she had two children now third on the way.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh p you have some standards girl.

572
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Speaker 5: He was out of town, so I thought it would

573
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Speaker 5: be fun to surprise him both the news at his hotel.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, if you can see where this is going, type,

575
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Speaker 5: I see you in the commons.

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Speaker 1: Do you see where this is going?

577
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, type, I see you, I see you.

578
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Speaker 5: So I planned on getting a cake with You're going

579
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Speaker 5: to be a dad again, delivered to his hotel.

580
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: Again.

581
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: I called the hotel asking how I could go about

582
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Speaker 5: this and was told they didn't have him staying at

583
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Speaker 5: the hotel.

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Speaker 1: No.

585
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Speaker 5: I assume I had messed up where he was staying,

586
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Speaker 5: but I know his company would only put him up

587
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Speaker 5: in that hotel group. I have admittedly overlooked some red flags.

588
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 5: No fucking shit, story your flags? Did you realize something

589
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Speaker 5: was going on? I know he's dumb enough to keep

590
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: all his passwords the same, and I know our passwords.

591
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: For that that don't look good, don't look at it.

592
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 5: Sovia prime target at the hack of dollars, and so

593
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: I logged into his Facebook and Instagram to snoop. While snooping,

594
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 5: I found dms with Amanda that were flirty and she

595
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 5: had been tagging him in stories. So, Amanda, hig school sweetheart?

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Speaker 4: How did did Ope not have an Instagram?

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Speaker 1: I feel like, did they not break off the engagement?

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00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: And did they not? Yeah? Did Ope not see the tags?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I feel like you would have noticed the tags like

601
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Speaker 6: have you never gone into your your significant others like

602
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Speaker 6: tagged photos?

603
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Speaker 5: I called him up and asked him if there was

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Speaker 5: anything he wanted to tell me.

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Speaker 1: He said, absolutely not. What the boy should I do?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely I absolutely no, absolutely not, absolutely no, absolutely not,

607
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Speaker 5: I absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Not, absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely Now, he said absolutely no, And I said, are

610
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Speaker 5: you sure because I know you're not staying at ex

611
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Speaker 5: hotel because I was trying to surprise you with something

612
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Speaker 5: and I couldn't, which is such a.

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Speaker 1: Way to find out your husband is not being faithful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to tell you about my child, by

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Speaker 4: the way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, after now being together, I can pick up on

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Speaker 5: some of his lying tells. Girl, if you have to

618
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Speaker 5: pick up on his tails when he's lying, this is

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Speaker 5: a red flag.

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Speaker 4: He's somebody red flags. I can't even.

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Speaker 1: This is red flags. Magic mountain right here? Come on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Six of those last six at least.

623
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Speaker 5: At least And when he tried to tell me he

624
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 5: was somewhere else, I called him out on his tell

625
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: and he said he would come home that night and

626
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: we could talk. This guy is a ship bag. Please

627
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: break up with him. But there's more than this story.

628
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 5: I assumed he was coming home to tell me that

629
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: he and Amanda were seeing each other, but instead he

630
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: told me that he had been having an affair with

631
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Speaker 5: a woman we will call Sarah, and Sarah and him

632
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: have two kids together.

633
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Speaker 4: A whole separate woman.

634
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: Man knows how to multitask. He was with her and

635
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: has not been going on as many work trips since

636
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: COVID started. The kicker is he started seeing Sarah while

637
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: still engaged to Amanda and It's kids with her are

638
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: six and one who will be four a week before

639
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: our four year anniversary.

640
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, six year old.

641
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 6: So he's been Wait, so he was seeing Sarah at

642
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: least for at least six years.

643
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, while engaged to Amanda and op.

644
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, man knows how to multitask. Wow. You know, man's

645
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: a dick, right, Yeah, but you gotta time management. This guy,

646
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: he's got a Google calendar. His Google calendar is stacked.

647
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Think about how many soccer games that Cake I see

648
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Speaker 1: to go.

649
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: To bro at least a lot, at least a lot,

650
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 5: least a lot. He and Sarah both claim that they

651
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: haven't been sexual relations since their youngest was conceived. He

652
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 5: was seeing both Sarah and Amanda, and I at what's in.

653
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: The beginning of a relationship. Oh my god, Oh my god.

654
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: Okay, Like he's a dick, but I'm just baffled, like,

655
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 5: how does he do it?

656
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: That's too much and he has a job, and he

657
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: has a job.

658
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: How do you handle all this?

659
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: Who takes him to the hotels?

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Speaker 1: I know? So he's probably high up.

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Speaker 4: I don't do it all, man.

662
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Speaker 5: He probably is like an assistant who manages all the relationships.

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Speaker 4: Sucker, sorry, met and bally appointment.

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Speaker 2: You have to meet Sarah at the Hotel Marriott, you

665
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Speaker 2: have to meet Amanda at the Hotel Fairmount, and you

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Speaker 2: have to meet oh pe the.

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Speaker 4: Announcement at six. He's gonna announce you know baby, all right,

668
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Speaker 4: and make sure to remember that she just got a

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Speaker 4: haircut and.

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Speaker 1: Hearing your kids' names and their profiles.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have a haircut. She her hair is the same.

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Speaker 4: Don't tell her that she had done his haircut. She

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Speaker 4: don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, bye bye. I like this assistant. It's a

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Speaker 1: real one.

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Speaker 5: I asked him about his DMS with Amanda, and he

677
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: said that they had reconnected at his fifteen year high

678
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Speaker 5: school reunion, which I did not go to because I

679
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Speaker 5: had just given birth two nights before.

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Speaker 4: He went to a high school reunion.

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Speaker 1: How is your high school reunion more important than your

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Speaker 1: child and the mother of your child?

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Speaker 4: The girl red flugs unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: So he did this last year and had been hanging

685
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Speaker 5: out with old high school friends. I am absolutely devastated

686
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Speaker 5: and confused. I gave birth to our first son January

687
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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty, our second son June of twenty twenty one,

688
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Speaker 5: and like I said, I'm currently pregnant with our third.

689
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 5: The betrayal goes further? How does it go further? How

690
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 5: does it go further?

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Speaker 3: Leave him with.

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Speaker 5: The fact that his mother has been helping him hide

693
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Speaker 5: this secret from everyone. She has been the best grandmother

694
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Speaker 5: to my boys and is very active in their life

695
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: and helps me with clean our home and giving me

696
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Speaker 5: time to do things away from the kids. She knew

697
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Speaker 5: every time he was going to see Sarah and their kids,

698
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Speaker 5: and never.

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Speaker 4: Once told, Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 5: Wonder if she's helping with those kids too. Yeah, I

701
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Speaker 5: wonder if she's just like, all right, I'll see Sarah about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, take care.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Amanda has any kids with him. Bummer

704
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 5: doesn't need any worse, Sovia doesn't need any worse. I'm

705
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Speaker 5: coming to the realization that everything in my world revolves

706
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Speaker 5: around him. I can't even begin to talk to my

707
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Speaker 5: friends about this because all of my friends are his

708
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Speaker 5: friend's wives. I feel like I am this big joke

709
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Speaker 5: to his friends and family, and I'm not sure how

710
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Speaker 5: to change that. I don't have a job because I

711
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: quit to be able to travel with him when we

712
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 5: got engaged. I feel like I'm stuck and don't know

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Speaker 5: how to get out. Has anyone left a marriage not

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Speaker 5: knowing where to go or how to survive? What does

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Speaker 5: op he do?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 6: That's really rough. She definitely needs to leave him. But

718
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Speaker 6: that's really rough financially having children.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least she'll get child support.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you know, it's it's not usually enough.

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Speaker 5: To like well, I mean, if she knows, I mean

722
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Speaker 5: it sounds like he's well off, she knows he's cheating,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, divorcing him probably.

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Speaker 1: Would be easy.

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Speaker 4: Course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if there's a prenap, but if

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Speaker 5: there isn't, then she could get a fair amount of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is an update.

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Speaker 5: But before the update, I want to know what you

730
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Speaker 5: think op he should do? And also does anyone have

731
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Speaker 5: any experience with leaving a marriage, especially if you're uncertain

732
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Speaker 5: with your own financial position. Let us down the comments,

733
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Speaker 5: type your stories and we're going to get into this update.

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Speaker 5: I officially am a single woman as of today. Congrats, congrats,

735
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Speaker 5: you deserve to be single.

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Speaker 4: Advice.

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Speaker 5: I mean that sound sounded bad, But you should be single. Yeah,

738
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Speaker 5: he took our advice. You deserve to be a single. No, no,

739
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: you should. You should be single away from this guy.

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Speaker 4: You need to find yourself.

741
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Speaker 1: You needn't find yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

743
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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 5: I want to think everyone who commented, and those who

745
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: reached out with their ideas, and those who have been

746
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: in the same situation I was in. I took photos

747
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: of all the infidelity and lies. One of his friends

748
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: got me a good divorced lawyer, and my ex new

749
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 5: he was from the start, so it was speedy, and

750
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Speaker 5: he gave me half of everything and is paying far

751
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Speaker 5: more than I expected for child support and is granting

752
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Speaker 5: me spousal support for a while.

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Speaker 4: That's great, so.

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Speaker 1: At least he did something.

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Speaker 4: Eventually, financially, they're going to be okay for now, Thanks God. Yeah.

756
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Speaker 5: I reached out to a few of the wives when

757
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: I found things out. A few of the wives.

758
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Speaker 4: Few of the wives, I say, a few of the.

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00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 5: Wives with a friend group. Oh yeah, not his wives

760
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 5: when I found things out. And shockingly, his friend group

761
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 5: picked me and not him. Yes, so Testy, that was

762
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Speaker 5: the most surprising thing out of this. These are friends

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00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: he's had for twenty plus years. They opened up a

764
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 5: lot of his behavior and a few of the wives

765
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 5: actually were getting ready to tell me about his flirty

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Speaker 5: encounters with Amanda. But as a mom with two kids

767
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Speaker 5: under two, they were concerned with my mental health and

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Speaker 5: we're going to tell me at the end of the

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00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 5: month at a mom's getaway we were having. I didn't

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: have a job when I left, but one of his

771
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: friend's wives owns a marketing company, which is what my

772
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: job was before we got married, and told me that

773
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Speaker 5: when I was ready, she'd have a job ready for me.

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00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: I started that job back in April and have actually

775
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Speaker 5: been enjoying it.

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: Oh he's getting on her feet, she's finding herself.

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: I am still pregnant. That was a decision I made

778
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Speaker 5: of my own. I love being a mom and my

779
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: boys are my whole world. I was going back and

780
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: forth on it, but I truly love our children. It

781
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: was not an easy decision to come to. But I'll

782
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: figure it out one day at a time, like I

783
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 5: have for the last six months.

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: This all took place within six months.

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah crazy? What coaster was six months? Yeah? No, six

786
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: months jam packed. Well, I'm so glad that she left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's good a job a job, and.

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Speaker 5: I think it shows like, yeah, I think it shows

789
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Speaker 5: that if you're in a bad situation, like it's probably

790
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: almost always better to leave. I know, like any China

791
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: change is scary, of course, but I mean this, this

792
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 5: is a change I needed to happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she needed to get her kids out of there,

794
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Speaker 6: and I think it really worked out for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ope, we're happy for you.

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: But if this has ever happened to you, if you've

797
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 5: ever left marriage it wasn't working for you, please tell

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00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: us how you left in the comments.

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Speaker 1: Blow We'd love to hear from you. Especially.

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Speaker 5: We love hearing from the comments of our public subscribers,

801
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Speaker 5: so we're going to read some right now.

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Speaker 6: This is from the video Sleeping with my sister's husband,

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Speaker 6: Psycho Roommates and destroyed Marriages. I did think that they

804
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: were saying that they were sleeping with their sisters.

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00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: No, no, this is the weekly recap, and we talked

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Speaker 5: a little bit about gotcha.

807
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Speaker 4: This is from Heather Love, who says, yikes.

808
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Speaker 1: That was a big yike story. Yeah, kind of.

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Speaker 4: Sums it up.

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Speaker 6: This is from public subscriber Catherine Alan. I had a

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Speaker 6: sea section. My ex saw my intestines pulled out. He

812
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 6: didn't stop looking. He didn't leave me, though we split

813
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Speaker 6: years later after our second child.

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Speaker 1: Catherine, that was a roller coaster of a sentence.

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Speaker 5: Sad, my god, I didn't know you you see your

816
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Speaker 5: intestines in a sea section?

817
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I haven't had a sea section.

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Speaker 1: Geez, Catherine. Also, I'm like, oh, he didn't leave you

819
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: like that. He left.

820
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 6: This is from public subscriber, the real dal Just use

821
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Speaker 6: a turkey baster.

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Speaker 5: That's how you should do it, Just that impregnant thing

823
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 5: you yourself with a turkey baster.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you know how c section's work. The

825
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Speaker 6: real doll, Well, I don't know how they work either, But.

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Speaker 5: Well, we love all of the comments for Republic subscribers.

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Speaker 1: We love you, we miss you. Comment below about.

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Speaker 5: Your your divorce stories, your sections. Yeah, oh, the c

829
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Speaker 5: section stories. We'd love to hear that too. Do you

830
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Speaker 5: really see your intestines in the sea section?

831
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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: My only se.

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Speaker 6: Sections experience is Chris Anatomy and other doctor shows.

834
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Speaker 1: Yes, so we're very experienced.

835
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Speaker 5: But we love you. We'll see you soon. And also

836
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Speaker 5: thank you to my sister. This is the last story.

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Speaker 5: Recording to day. I hope you guys enjoyed this this

838
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 5: guest appearance. She might be coming on more often, so

839
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Speaker 5: if you want to see her type Sophia in the

840
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: comments below. Yeah, all the sofias, we'll see you soon.

841
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 5: I sent my son to school in address. The school

842
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: kicked him out and my wife is pissed. Am I

843
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: the a hole?

844
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Speaker 4: No? I wouldn't say so, but let's hear more.

845
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Speaker 1: Well.

846
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 5: You know what they say is boys can't wear dresses.

847
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 5: Harry styles as taught as anything. It's that real men

848
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: don't wear dresses. They wear kilt kilts.

849
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 4: Yes, as I always said that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, have you ever seen those like those strong men,

851
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: like the strong man competitions where it's like literally the

852
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 5: biggest frickin dudes in the world are like and will

853
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Speaker 5: like pick up that, you know, those balls, like they're

854
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Speaker 5: like like one hundred three hundred pound balls and they're

855
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Speaker 5: like these giant Scottish men.

856
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they wear skirts, so why can't your son so?

857
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: True?

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Speaker 6: There's an episode I can't remember where it's from, but

859
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Speaker 6: there's an episode in something is.

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Speaker 5: An episode in something. There's an episode something. Also, if

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Speaker 5: you haven't very similar looking person to me. Is my

862
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Speaker 5: sister Sofia. Hello, everyone be nice to her. This is

863
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Speaker 5: her first time being anywhere on the internet, so please

864
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Speaker 5: only say nice things.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I recorded artists in in a in a musical.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So she's also a recorded artist in a musical.

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Speaker 5: Don't look her up. No, her name is Sophia Donner.

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Speaker 6: Wait no, don't look that up though, because I will

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Speaker 6: come up. But don't look it up if I look

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Speaker 6: have this. No, I didn't know this. I found this

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Speaker 6: out recently.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm just learning. Physics.

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Speaker 6: Teacher in high school made a musical and he recorded us,

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Speaker 6: and I'm on the is that is that allowed?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: You know he asked us. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you signed away?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: He didn't pay me? But yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well god, I can't imagine not paying you. For sure.

881
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Speaker 4: No one pays me.

882
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Speaker 6: I'm a high I'm a she's a high value individuality.

883
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Speaker 5: Also, does my sister also look like Keith from Try Guys?

884
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Speaker 5: Since you guys always say I look like Keith from

885
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Speaker 5: Try Guys?

886
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Speaker 1: Does she look like it? All? Right?

887
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Speaker 5: So my son started second grade last week. I get

888
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Speaker 5: the kids ready for school while my wife sleeps. She's

889
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: got the graveyard shift and is laziest.

890
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Speaker 6: Okay, no, she's a hard wooking working what are the

891
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 6: graveyard people called zombies?

892
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: Zombie time for kids.

893
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Speaker 5: So he's got a twin sister. I told them both

894
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Speaker 5: it was time to get ready for school, and his

895
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: twin sister pulled out a bunch of dresses out of

896
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Speaker 5: her closet. My son picked one up and said, I

897
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Speaker 5: want to wear this.

898
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, that's what he wants to wear. He

899
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Speaker 4: knows what he wants.

900
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Speaker 1: Who cares? Who cares? Gender roles are now fluid, y'all.

901
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Speaker 4: Gender doesn't exist.

902
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: Gender is a myth invented by the patriarchy. I'm thinking, whatever, dude,

903
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Speaker 5: we're running late. Just put on some kind of clothes

904
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Speaker 5: and let's get out, and let's get out the door.

905
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Speaker 5: I'm pretty politically neutral, So while I wouldn't say I

906
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Speaker 5: was particularly happy he wanted to wear a dress, and

907
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Speaker 5: also wasn't nearly as upsetting to me as the idea

908
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Speaker 5: that I could be late for work if we didn't

909
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Speaker 5: get out the door that instant. So it's like, all right,

910
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 5: I'd rather make money for my family than argue with

911
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: this this six year old about address.

912
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems more important.

913
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Speaker 5: And also he was servant. Looks in that thing he

914
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: was serving slaying, slay king. Okay, so I figured, okay,

915
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't ever tell my daughter not to do something

916
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Speaker 5: because it was not lady like, So I shouldn't tell

917
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Speaker 5: my son not to do something because it isn't manly,

918
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Speaker 5: which willkey makes sense?

919
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Speaker 4: I think so too.

920
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 5: I drop him off and get to work. Three hours later,

921
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Speaker 5: we get a call to come pick up our son

922
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Speaker 5: because his outfit is distracting to the other kids and

923
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Speaker 5: he's being bullied.

924
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: That's outrageous. I was it distracting.

925
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Speaker 5: He was very sad when my wife got there, and

926
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Speaker 5: the whole morning had been upsetting for him.

927
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Yeah, what the heck, what the heck? Let that

928
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: kid slay?

929
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let that kid slay.

930
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: Also, shouldn't you be like mad at the bullies for

931
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Speaker 5: bullying the kid wearing the skirt exactly than the kid. Yeah,

932
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: say no to bullying, Rise up, victim blame. My wife

933
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: is irate, asking how I couldn't have realized that was

934
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Speaker 5: inappropriate and I was setting our son up to fail.

935
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Speaker 5: I mean, to be fair, you are well to be fair, though,

936
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Speaker 5: I imagine like I'm just thinking if I wore a

937
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Speaker 5: skirt to middle school, like.

938
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Speaker 4: I Sam got bullied for eating salad.

939
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, if I'm going to get bullied for eat

940
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Speaker 5: I love how everyone knows the salad boy story told

941
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Speaker 5: sid Boy, But like, like, if I'm going to get

942
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Speaker 5: bullied for eating salad, I'm definitely for wearing a skirt.

943
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Speaker 6: I'm hoping people don't still bully kids for eating salads.

944
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Speaker 6: I feel like we've progressed maybe.

945
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well I think we've even progressed. Like I

946
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Speaker 5: think like a lot of kids wouldn't even bully you

947
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Speaker 5: for wearing.

948
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Speaker 4: A skirt on l Yeah, maybe just regional, so.

949
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Speaker 1: It's just about everyone else. I've run this by.

950
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Speaker 5: My wife thinks damage has permanently been done because he'll

951
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Speaker 5: be in the same school system as these kids the

952
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Speaker 5: rest of his life, and he'll be known as the

953
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Speaker 5: one who wore a dress and I was being thoughtless

954
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Speaker 5: or wilfully ignorant because I was in a rush, and

955
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Speaker 5: our son suffered for it. That's actually an interesting take.

956
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Speaker 5: It's an interesting take. What if he did he wasn't

957
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Speaker 5: trying to make a statement by wearing the dress. You

958
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Speaker 5: just like thought that was sick.

959
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 6: But if he continues to wear a then then they'll

960
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 6: just get used to it. Then he'll just be like, well.

961
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Speaker 1: What if he doesn't want to wear a dress because

962
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Speaker 1: it was so traumatizing?

963
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Speaker 4: Now, well, if he doesn't want to wear a dress, then.

964
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Speaker 1: But now he's forever the kid who wore that dress

965
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: that one time. Yeah, but kids for kids have are

966
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Yeah? Right?

967
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Speaker 5: There was this guy that threw up in third grade

968
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: and for like the entire rest of middle school he

969
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 5: was like known as vomit kid. Okay, but ye I

970
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 5: ate a salad one time in fourth grade and to

971
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 5: this day people still know me as salad boy.

972
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: Are you really gonna say, are you really gonna say?

973
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: These kids have short term memories with you?

974
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: For everybody he keeps wearing the dress, then everyone will

975
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 6: get used to it because they'll be they'll be they'll

976
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 6: be known as the kids.

977
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Speaker 5: But what if he doesn't want that to be part

978
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 5: of the all right, Well we're gonna keep going. We're

979
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: gonna keep going, all right. At the time, I truly

980
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: didn't think it was that big of a deal. But

981
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Speaker 5: that doesn't change that I put my son in harm's way. Now,

982
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: I'm not sure whether I made the wrong decision or not,

983
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: or how to feel about it. Am I the a hole? Okay, Sophia,

984
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: question to you? Well, first, I want to put it

985
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: to y'all. Would you let your son wear a skirt

986
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 5: to school if he wanted to, and if he chose

987
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: the skirt, would you give any like preamble where it's like, hey,

988
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: this is what you're choosing. Usually girls wear this or

989
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. Would you like would you say anything before?

990
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: And now? All right?

991
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: Hopefully those cute little fingers of yours are tippy tapping

992
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 5: on those keyboards in the comments below.

993
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: But Sophia, what do you think? One?

994
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 5: Would you tell your if your if your son Sophia

995
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: has no children, I have a son. No, you don't

996
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 5: something I don't know about. I have five sons, five sons.

997
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 5: She has been getting busy. She is man college college

998
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: went crazy on you.

999
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 4: Just succulents.

1000
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: There's other succulents. I let the sucker is okay.

1001
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 5: So would you tell your your son one like any

1002
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 5: context around the choices making for his clothings? And two

1003
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: would you even let him in the first place?

1004
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: What do you give? Yeah?

1005
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 6: What would you say, I would absolutely let my son,

1006
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 6: my imaginary son, your imaginary.

1007
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: Son, not the real son, that's not not one of

1008
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: your five sons, Your real five sons never be caught

1009
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: dead in the imaginary one.

1010
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 6: All right, Everyone's no, I would absolutely let my fake

1011
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 6: son wear any dresses that he wants, because that's his

1012
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 6: own decision. And I think that children are often not

1013
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: allowed to like think for themselves, and that is bad parenting.

1014
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 6: I think also, I think that if you tell them beforehand,

1015
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 6: I feel like you're kind of influencing their own judgment.

1016
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 6: And I think that if we don't put our own

1017
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 6: biases on children, they will grow and learn.

1018
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: Well, but he's going to get those biases at school.

1019
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but but maybe if we those other children weren't

1020
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 6: given those Oh.

1021
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't want time.

1022
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 5: We don't live in this rosy world where everyone's just

1023
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 5: going to be nice to this kid. Like if you

1024
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: show up in something different, you are going to get bullied.

1025
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 5: Just like when I started a webcomic in middle school,

1026
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 5: no one thought that shit was cool. I thought, and maybe, well,

1027
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 5: the thing is actually law.

1028
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny.

1029
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 5: Thanks Fia, but like, well, you know, actually that's a

1030
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: good point, like with a right so to flip it.

1031
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: Like I did a lot of things that would be

1032
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 5: considered uncool or weird in middle school, but I don't

1033
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 5: like my parents never said like, oh that's going to

1034
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 5: be uncool or weird. There's like, hey, you do it,

1035
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: do whatever is right for you. And you're probably like

1036
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: you got you're probably gonna get bullied. Didn't even say

1037
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: they were gonna bully. I just got bullied.

1038
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't tell you that, so maybe you don't

1039
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: tell you so you didn't tell your kids.

1040
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 6: And now Sam, you're probably a successful TikTok.

1041
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: I've come so far and my parents are so proud.

1042
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: To support you. They are they are proud.

1043
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: So all right, in conclusion, you you wouldn't say anything,

1044
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 5: You just say sure, wear it.

1045
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 6: I would say you be you What I would.

1046
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: Say that rhyme, you be you sligh.

1047
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: You be you slay. That's what I would say. Oh,

1048
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: I write poetry.

1049
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: And she.

1050
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 5: So Sophia would just let the kid be bullied and

1051
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: she thinks the bullying is good. That is what anyway,

1052
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: What would you do? I mean, also if you're if

1053
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 5: I mean for those of you have kids, like what

1054
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: have you done. Has your your child ever, like you know,

1055
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 5: boy or girl chosen the opposite sex clothing and what

1056
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: would you say to your children?

1057
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: Really curious about what you would do.

1058
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: Clothing doesn't have gender.

1059
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 5: Clothing doesn't have gender, and neither do you. Maybe you know,

1060
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: I mean, who knows? Anyway, let us know. Put your

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Speaker 5: answer to the comments. We love you, We'll talk you soon,

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Speaker 5: assass