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Speaker 1: me come up next to sorry coming up in a moment,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear uh I think unbelievable. Ten minutes with Mark Shapiro,

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Speaker 1: who is the President CEO of TKO. TKO owns and

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Speaker 1: runs the UFC and the WWE UFC with a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: two minutes. Cubs Brewers taking place right now, right Buyers

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Speaker 1: got it on in studio. He's watching and of course yesterday,

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Speaker 1: a day night doubleheader. It's the makeup of last night's

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Speaker 1: don't win the next what four games of the series?

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, yeah, you kind of need to win the

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Speaker 3: I quoted the great Vin Scully. Vin Scully in these

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Speaker 3: That one was reduced to the basics. I'll throw as

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was listening to the game actually driving up

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Speaker 5: So it was great and we knew what we were walking into.

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Speaker 5: Doug right, this was an ESPN Plus play that they're

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Speaker 5: Tens of thousands of streams and how many people were

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Speaker 5: You're paying eleven ninety nine to get ESPN plus that's

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Speaker 5: Now, in their defense, the UFC, while obviously we have

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Speaker 1: If you were on the other side, right, because I

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Speaker 7: why is Kenny Pickett on scholarship? He's like writing, you know,

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Speaker 7: his first round draft status from years ago. It's like, oh, yeah,

435
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Speaker 7: we hired this guy from Golden Facts. Well it turns

436
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Speaker 7: out his dad was the CEO. Wasn't that you know, impressive,

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Speaker 7: no difference. This guy went in the first round. Well

438
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Speaker 7: awful quarterback draft that year and probably never should have

439
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Speaker 7: been a first rounder. So it's like he's more like

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Speaker 7: a fourth fifth rounder. But somehow that guy just keeps surviving.

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Speaker 1: He definitely does. This is the Gottlib Show here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Matt Stafford back at practice. Is your

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Speaker 1: concern alleviated now that he's throwing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I thought I thought it was a weird situation. And

446
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Speaker 7: then McVeigh got did you see the clip with it yesterday?

447
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Speaker 7: Got kind of edgy, like, well, Sean, I mean, this

448
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Speaker 7: is kind of is a big story, but I get it.

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Speaker 7: He's probably tired of talking about it, even though they

450
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Speaker 7: kind of created it by saying he was going to

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Speaker 7: practice over the weekend. Now he's back to back days.

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Speaker 7: You know, like there are a lot of injuries. They're

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Speaker 7: like you're recovered from a broken arm or you know,

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Speaker 7: even a rolled ankle, like you're pretty clear, like okay,

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Speaker 7: I'm good to go back. I mean, think about what

456
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Speaker 7: we see, Like Steve Kerr couldn't coach with a bad

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Speaker 7: back because you never knew what it was going to

458
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Speaker 7: come back. Tiger Woods couldn't play golf, so play an

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Speaker 7: NFL quarterback. It's definitely just something in the back of

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Speaker 7: everyone's mind that I can't just view it as like, oh,

461
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Speaker 7: he's just created disc the effort. He's just good to

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Speaker 7: go now. No one is toughness as elite, but that

463
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Speaker 7: is something that you could be maybe seal level tough

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Speaker 7: that I don't think you could if it if it

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Speaker 7: does crop back up, that's not really something you can

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Speaker 7: operate with it, is it No, I don't think so, especially.

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Speaker 1: At his age, you know, especially at his age, and

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Speaker 1: and this is not it didn't just pop back up.

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Speaker 1: Remember like two years ago, there was talk of him

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Speaker 1: retiring because of that back and those and.

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Speaker 7: Those years he played in Detroit. You know, he's thirty six,

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Speaker 7: thirty seven years old. Yeah, he'sty years off. Thirty seven

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Speaker 7: years old.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Bad teams tick years off your life. And

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Speaker 1: even though he's playing indoors. Now here's here's a question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if everybody will understand this line

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Speaker 1: of questioning, but I've talked to some football people and

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Speaker 1: you are one of them. So let's let's have at it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that people talk about with uh

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Speaker 1: at the end of Ben Roethlisberger. You know, for example,

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Speaker 1: Ben Rosberger used to hold the ball so long, take

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Speaker 1: so many hits, and still make up a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But at the end he didn't want to get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady did not that last year. He did not

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Speaker 1: want to get hit. He got rid of that ball

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Speaker 1: really really quickly.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: And once you get to that place where you're not retired,

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Speaker 1: but you know retirement is coming, right, I just that's

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Speaker 1: my fear for Rogers, that's my fear for Stafford is

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Speaker 1: they're going to be a shell of themselves, not just

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Speaker 1: because their age, but because they're so cognizant of getting hit.

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Speaker 1: They'll get rid of the ball a half second sooner

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Speaker 1: than they ever would previously.

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Speaker 7: I've never played the NFL quarterback, but I would imagine

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Speaker 7: those hits hurt a little more the older you get.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, can't you wake it up the next day?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so that that hit. You remember Andrew luck when

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Speaker 7: he first came in the league, it was like he

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Speaker 7: was fearless. And then eventually and he got through late twenties,

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Speaker 7: his body didn't work. Philip Rivers was like that now

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Speaker 7: because of his arm strength, he kind of had to

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Speaker 7: be that way.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: Matt Stafford could always he could truly wait till the

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Speaker 7: last second because he could zip it in there. And

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Speaker 7: I just you know, his kids are getting older, He's

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Speaker 7: got a big family. I did think he started kind

510
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Speaker 7: of looking at the world a little bit differently. It's

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Speaker 7: just no different than anyone in any walk of life.

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Speaker 7: You're probably a little less reckless the older you get. Financially, personally,

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Speaker 7: people hang around. No different quarterback. I mean Brady was

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Speaker 7: a great example. I mean, no one. His toughness was

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Speaker 7: pretty elite most of his career, and that last year

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Speaker 7: in Tampa he's like, I am not getting sacked Rogers

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Speaker 7: last year. How eye opening was that? I mean he

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Speaker 7: had so many moments where he's like, Yay, I'm missed

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Speaker 7: not doing this, and that'll be That's been a defining

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Speaker 7: attribute to Stafford. I mean, he's kind of been different

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Speaker 7: because he didn't win for so long, but his game

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Speaker 7: was very Farvian, like the good farm also the bad farm,

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Speaker 7: but then the toughness aspect, and if his body doesn't

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Speaker 7: cooperate or he starts tucking guessing it, that kind of

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Speaker 7: changes them as a player a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Still leave here on Fox Sports Radio, that's the voice

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Speaker 1: of the one and only John Middlecough Three and Out

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Speaker 1: is in fact the podcast. Treikman's like, Hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys cann slow anybody down without Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 1: But I mean I don't know if they can slow

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Speaker 1: anybody down with Michah Parsons. This thing gets done this week,

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Speaker 1: doesn't It isn't this the time?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean I'm kind of coming to grips with

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Speaker 7: this might be a weird season for Dallas. This might

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Speaker 7: go you know, the parallels with Jerry and Al Davis.

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Speaker 7: This is these next couple of years. You know, you

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Speaker 7: got Brian Schottenheimer, who This situation for a guy that

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Speaker 7: the first time head coach is tough for a first

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Speaker 7: time head coach that most people never thought it was

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Speaker 7: going to be a head coach. I mean, I just

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Speaker 7: think this thing could get really chaotic. I mean it

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Speaker 7: kind of speaks to McCarthy. Last year, Dak got heard

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Speaker 7: and they were still pretty respectable, right, and I think

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Speaker 7: they're at a position now where they're an injury away.

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Speaker 7: I mean, MICHAEH. Parsons. How many guys have we seen

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Speaker 7: in recent memory that have held out at wide receiver

547
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Speaker 7: at defensive line that have low starts to their seasons

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Speaker 7: because when everyone else's practicing, you see him there in

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Speaker 7: shorts and a T shirt. Now, granted, I'm sure he's

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Speaker 7: working out on the side, but that's not the same.

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Speaker 7: So I think this cowboy situation, like, I think there's

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Speaker 7: a world where they finished last in the division.

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Speaker 1: Last in the division? Huh? Are the Giants the Giants?

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Speaker 7: I think the Giants defensive line is going to be awesome.

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, they definitely have some pieces on offense.

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Speaker 7: I'm not buying into the Jackson Dart hype just yet

557
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: the same way you want. Like Brian day Ball won

558
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Speaker 7: nine games a couple of years ago with not that

559
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Speaker 7: much talent. Like he's a legitimate Like there's not a

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Speaker 7: GM in the league that would choose Shottenhammer over dayble Hell, Jerry,

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's just a better coach. So I just

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Speaker 7: there is a scenario where the Dallas thing and this

563
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Speaker 7: happened with the Raiders. You start putting in guys that

564
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Speaker 7: have no business being ahead coach. Football is weird because

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Speaker 7: you get injuries. You know, the ball shaped twenty, so

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Speaker 7: you get a weird bounce in the game, you end

567
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Speaker 7: up losing. I mean, what happens on opening night if

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Speaker 7: they just go into Philly and get you know what

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Speaker 7: this cold cock and just they're just like, what did

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Speaker 7: they just lose forty to seven? And that back can

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Speaker 7: just spiral fast on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if he hasn't practice, he's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: ready to play or can't play at full amount of snaps.

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Speaker 1: You don't have me, You can't pressure the pass you

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Speaker 1: can't press the passer. There's not much you can do

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Speaker 1: there defensively in the NFL. He's John Middlcoff. He's had

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Speaker 3: Hey, Doug, I'll take it from here. Let me start

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Speaker 3: that over.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it from here, you dog, I'll take it

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Speaker 3: from here. So something special happened four years ago. And

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Speaker 3: you know, in this business, we need to celebrate milestones.

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting any younger, the business is getting more funky.

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Speaker 3: So I want to celebrate milestones. I want to bring

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Speaker 3: this tomorrow, but Dan Byer brought has brought to my

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Speaker 3: attention that this will be the last time we're together

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Speaker 3: for a while, so I'd like to do it as

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Speaker 3: the four of us. The A team is here today,

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Speaker 3: Sam on the twos and ones, and we got Dan

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Speaker 3: Byer on the updates. We got Doug Gottlieb four years

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Speaker 3: ago today I started working on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Four year anniversary. It's been quite a ride, quite right,

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Speaker 3: Show into a better place. I've spoken to many media

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Speaker 3: steered it into a better place. But yeah, four years, Doug.

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Speaker 3: And one thing I really like is when people try

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Speaker 3: and Doug hate being these soul creators on this show.

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Speaker 3: So Dan Byer helps out. Sam has never brought main

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Speaker 2: So on a fly though he's on the fly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great on the drops, human filibuster, great on

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Speaker 3: the drops. And you know what, listeners, when listeners contribute.

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Speaker 3: I love that our listener, Brad in Jacksonville has contributed

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Speaker 2: Yes he's here in this.

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Speaker 1: And not blue.

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Speaker 2: He's a semi regulumer on the show.

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Speaker 4: His name is Jasus.

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Speaker 2: Now he's tweeting some mood.

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Speaker 1: And he's zero.

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Speaker 2: God holds on his faces in the place.

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Speaker 4: His name is Jason.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Brad and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: That will go on the permanent file list. And four

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Speaker 1: Happy anniversary there, Jay Stu.

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Speaker 2: What is four years? What is that? Is it cotton?

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing because potted plant. My dad would get my

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Speaker 1: have a lot of in the back, but they weren't

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Speaker 1: the ones that I don't know, it was a lot. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Happy anniversary. I love having you. And as you know,

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Speaker 1: and and I think people learn, is like it's just

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Speaker 1: everything about you do with my coaching staff change this year.

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Speaker 1: There's no disrespect to the people who are not coaching

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Speaker 1: here any longer. Like everybody, every one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that are not here anymore got a raise. But this

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Speaker 1: is gonna help me more and help my team more.

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Speaker 1: And the same thing happened four years ago when you

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Speaker 1: joined this is we got better every day because you

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Speaker 1: love this. Right, you can only do sports radio every

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Speaker 1: day if you actually love it and if you love

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Speaker 1: content and you think you find interesting things in what

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Speaker 1: get to dar. Let's get Dambar, get the press.

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Speaker 6: The press.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys also see fruit and flowers? As the

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Speaker 2: four year's that's what I'm seeing. Fruit and flowers for

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Speaker 2: your anniversary. That's the gift. All right, let's get into

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Speaker 2: some job battles first. We'll start in the NFL Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones beating out Anthony Richardson for the cult starting gig today.

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Speaker 2: This was head coach Sheane steich In on Richardson's role

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Speaker 2: after being the starter of the last two years. Ar

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Speaker 2: was great.

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Speaker 3: He knows that he still needs to develop and learn,

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Speaker 3: and he knows that he's one play away.

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Speaker 2: One play away from being back in there for the

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Speaker 2: Adanapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: So again, every guy here, the challenge to being the

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Speaker 1: backup is all you got to do is get the

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Speaker 1: starter ready. But I do wonder how many of those

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Speaker 1: guys if you could do the Remember Mel Gibson what

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Speaker 1: women want? Where he can read women's minds, he can

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Speaker 1: hear women's minds talking. You guys, remember that movie? Have

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Speaker 1: you seen it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it, but I know what you're talking movie.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you could look inside the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks minds and like, oh he's hurt, I'm ready, he's okay,

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Speaker 1: timm it, he's okay. You know where is that where

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Speaker 1: they're like allright, hey baby, hey, let's go. That's that's

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Speaker 1: You're up. You're good, Okay, you're good, you keep going.

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Speaker 1: But in their brain they're like, dang it, I want

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Speaker 1: to end.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised. I thought that Richardson would be the starter.

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Speaker 2: So Shane Steichen has a different opinion. I do find

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Speaker 2: it interesting in the discourse that I'm seeing on social

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Speaker 2: media because it's starting to turn towards again a race

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Speaker 2: sort of thing at times when no, no, I know, surprising.

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Speaker 1: Social media has made a decision about football into race.

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Speaker 2: Surprise. Yes, I'm stunned. It's crazy. No one is just

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Speaker 2: talking about Anthony Richardson can't stay on the football field

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Speaker 2: like for some reasons to.

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Speaker 1: Throw the football to the right team accurately.

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Speaker 2: And part of the reason why he hasn't developed is

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Speaker 2: because he can't stay on the football field.

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Speaker 1: He'd love to use him as a runner, but the

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Speaker 1: problem with using him his runner is he's like, he can't.

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Speaker 2: Stay on the football field.

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Speaker 1: Did I mention that he can't stay on the football

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Speaker 1: field very long?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, it's crazy, but the Colts made their decision.

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Speaker 1: Wait are you telling me somebody made this into something racial?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: And not on a surprise, surprise surprise, Saint said. Coach

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore has not made a decision on whether it'll

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Speaker 2: be Spencer Rattler or Tyler Shook to be their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They've got one more preseason game coming up against the

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Speaker 2: Broncos on Saturday. Notre Dame has tabbed redshirt freshman CJ. Carr,

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Speaker 2: the grandson of Lloyd Carr, and the team starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: for their opener against Miami on Sunday, August thirty.

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Speaker 1: First Cars grandsons the quarterback for Notre Day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, how about that would.

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Speaker 1: Be like then transferred to like Ohio State too. It's

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Speaker 1: just like.

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Speaker 2: Then a grad season at Michigan State, just doing all

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Speaker 2: of the Wolverine rivals. Former number one overall pick John

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Speaker 2: Wall announced his retirement from the NBA after eleven seasons

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Speaker 2: that included five All Star appearances.

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Speaker 1: You know, I learned something from John Mall. You know

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Speaker 1: what that is?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: How to Dougie?

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Speaker 2: You did? Yes, that is true. I think that's one

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Speaker 2: of the things that he's most known for. The the's

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Speaker 1: Who knew? Now, you know, taught me how to doug

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Speaker 2: Cubs just beat the Brewer six'. Four Sophie cunningham done

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Speaker 2: for the year for the fever because of a knee.

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Speaker 2: Injury and that's the press.

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Speaker 1: World now you get out of there and.

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Speaker 2: Press that was the.

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